The Forgotten City is a Deeply Philosophical Skyrim Mod... and Also Not a Skyrim Mod

2023 ж. 26 Қыр.
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This video is a short examination of the differences in game design and philosophy between one of the best indie hits of 2021 and one of the best Skyrim mods ever. SPOILER: they're both The Forgotten City.
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  • As an archeology major, The Forgotten City and The Forgotten City were very interesting for me

    @adeadarcadia@adeadarcadia8 ай бұрын
    • As an both dwemer and roman, The Forgotten City and The Forgotten City were very interesting for me

      @firenovaTV@firenovaTV8 ай бұрын
    • Ok…??

      @Darkwear-vr8bi@Darkwear-vr8bi5 ай бұрын
    • I see what you did there😅

      @SPtrain@SPtrain5 ай бұрын
    • Personally I never really got the hype for The Forgotten City, but after I played The Forgotten City I finally understood!

      @Satellaview1889@Satellaview18893 ай бұрын
  • It's always good to see a game (or mod) whose philosophical depth goes deeper than "Dorm Stoner"

    @EstixLagomore@EstixLagomore8 ай бұрын
  • Here's a couple of things about The Forgotten City I think are also worth mentioning: The theme of building upon the knowledge of those that came before is especially clever when you realise that's what the gameplay is; you learn more with every loop to eventually live the perfect day and break the cycle. Also the "Karen is Charon" twist is a piece of pure writing genius. Making you remember a nothing character's name because of a joke, only to slap you in the face with it later if you haven't worked out you're in the underworld yet.

    @ForeverTraitor@ForeverTraitor8 ай бұрын
    • Yes! the implication being we as human beings just havent worket out all our issues *yet*. But so long as we keep trying - we will get there eventually

      @auxin903@auxin9037 ай бұрын
    • It's also funny because it's what the game itself is; building on the mod.

      @peterlewis2178@peterlewis21786 ай бұрын
  • This mod combined with clockwork Manor really or some of the greatest mods I played in Skyrim especially in combination. I got immensely immersed in the role play and even considered writing a fanfiction about it because of how much I was engrossed in it.

    @slitherthewizardofwither6959@slitherthewizardofwither69598 ай бұрын
    • Love Clockwork Castle, it's easily my favorite player home. Wished that the horror aspect went beyond the opening act, the dwarven city wasn't so barren, or that the Dragon priest mask stands were fixed. Does so much right yet leaves you yearning for more.

      @dalekrenegade2596@dalekrenegade25968 ай бұрын
    • I totally agree. Its easily one of the best quest/player home mods ever made.

      @madmaster0015@madmaster00157 ай бұрын
    • Clockwork is pure gold and so is Forgotten City

      @Cappuccino_Rabbit@Cappuccino_RabbitАй бұрын
  • I freaking loved the standalone game. Playing it helped me immensely through a long depressive episode. Very fascinated about the original mod project. Thanks for covering it!

    @charlieni645@charlieni6458 ай бұрын
    • Hope you’re okay now bro ❤

      @KieKey@KieKey3 ай бұрын
  • I am also a deeply philosophical Skyrim mod but not a Skyrim mod

    @thescotslair@thescotslair8 ай бұрын
    • obtain realism

      @The_House_Always_Wins@The_House_Always_Wins8 ай бұрын
    • how deeply?

      @firenovaTV@firenovaTV8 ай бұрын
    • I also like to live philosophically

      @akramirez@akramirez8 ай бұрын
  • i played the original mod years ago and it's by far my favorite video game mod ever. i can't even begin to tell you how excited i was when i saw on the front page of steam that it got it's own standalone game release. i bought it immediately and was completely blown away, i have no idea how they managed to take the skyrim mod and turn it into something even better but they did and it's incredible

    @canariawing@canariawing8 ай бұрын
  • Yo I just watched the Jacob Geller video on this yesterday Edit: This is a different perspective on it and that's fuckin awesome. I love seeing different takes on different aspects of certain things. Jacob Geller focused more on the city itself and the golden statues and all of that. Awesome!

    @haydenw7981@haydenw79818 ай бұрын
  • It's funny, when I played the mod, I had no idea that there was a time loop mechanic. I actually thought it was an addition in the game at first, and only after I had played the game did I learn it was in the mod too. That's one area that I think the game massively improves on the mod. Unlike the game, where the election triggers a reset, in the mod there's nothing to force breaking of the dwarves' law. So if you played like me, too scared to mess things up to try anything that might be considered as a sin, you can get to an ending without ever even knowing there's a time loop.

    @peterlewis2178@peterlewis21786 ай бұрын
    • Same. I kinda figured there would be a time loop, but I managed to get to the second best ending without triggering one. I feel kinda proud of myself 😅

      @Marcelelias11@Marcelelias116 ай бұрын
  • I also think that the reason behind your content is that no one does mod analysis to the depth of actual videogame critique, which is a shame because there’s barely even a wiki for fallout mods, there’s no secondary sources for these stories

    @FloofMother@FloofMother8 ай бұрын
  • Found your channel recently by complete accident and although I don't have a PC to play these mods (I am still invested in fallout and skyrim enough to be interested in them) listening to you talk (for some videos that I personally prefer) at great length about it is really compelling and great content. I imagine it's a pain in the ass making a lengthy hour long (or more) video, but they're so interesting to me and I hope to see more in the future. Although fallout 4 is in no way the best in the series would love to see your take on the Sim Settlements 2 mod, and when they finally get around to it. Fallout London.

    @insertgenericusernamehere2402@insertgenericusernamehere24026 ай бұрын
  • Got recommended the Enderal video and ended up watching it and a few others in full, really like what you do, keep it up! I loved the Forgotten City mod, played it a bunch of times through my Skyrim playthroughs, but haven't gotten around to the standalone yet, but I should!

    @trooprm32@trooprm324 ай бұрын
  • Another great video! I did not know this Project was turned into an actual game, that's honestly a huge inspiration for those of us who wish to follow in those steps. Thanks again for covering these types of project! Always looking forward to what you'll talk about next 👍 🎉

    @falloutnuevomexico@falloutnuevomexico8 ай бұрын
  • Dude I love you, keep doing Mod videos cause we really need more of these and there aren't enough, not for every Mod you cover.

    @protocolsummit103@protocolsummit1037 ай бұрын
  • One of my favorite channels rn. Thank you for the new video king

    @EmberSynth@EmberSynth8 ай бұрын
  • "Can you tell a lead developer was a lawyer before getting into game development..." Got an honest to God belly laughed from that!! Great content man: You sir have yourself a new fan

    @andrewgrasham4604@andrewgrasham46048 ай бұрын
  • Have only just started the video, but when I went to replay Skyrim recently (as I wanted to do modding correctly for once aka not manually downloading everything), this was one of the mods I had downloaded, as I was curious about the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod + its patches. That playthrough hasn't gone super far due to general fatigue, but this and clockwork castle were two of the mods I've completed. I really did like this mod (even if I liked Clockwork better due to my love for that architectural style, horror, and (after playing it) an interest in ES lore I haven't bothered realizing yet), and I can't wait to see your breakdown of it! Watched some of your Fallout New Vegas stuff and am excited to start looking at this plus your other content! Edit: I also had NO idea this was a game till I looked it up after finishing it to find anything I may have missed lol

    @TheStormQueen@TheStormQueen7 ай бұрын
  • always brings a smile to my face seeing you upload

    @cdpm1703@cdpm17038 ай бұрын
  • I really enjoyed your analysis! Thanks for sharing

    @flavafee@flavafee4 ай бұрын
  • I just found your channel, was watching your frontier vid and then I just saw you uploaded. Just subscribed

    @Pattyrick@Pattyrick8 ай бұрын
  • Personally I prefer The Forgotten City compared to The Forgotten City

    @iranianvoodoodoctor6778@iranianvoodoodoctor67788 ай бұрын
    • That's certainly a controversial opinion 😬

      @MrJstorm4@MrJstorm48 ай бұрын
  • I enjoyed this game so much! I remember playing and getting all of the endings, the dialog and the story were so interesting to me that I knew I couldn't play anything else until I finish this game

    @TheStardustConspiracy@TheStardustConspiracy8 ай бұрын
  • I loved this mod it inspired me to learn modding

    @Cosmifire@Cosmifire8 ай бұрын
  • Great video bud, keep it up!

    @zackshannon834@zackshannon8347 ай бұрын
  • Personally I'm very happy that you review mods. Game reviews are a dime a dozen, but analytical reviews on player added content for games? Very rare, and always exciting to see

    @cameronmackinnon5923@cameronmackinnon59237 ай бұрын
  • I think it benefits a lot from being a standalone game in the sense that the very narrative structure of the mod does not fit well into the bethesda game studios experience we've come to expect. I have a lot of friends who encountered this mod and similar within a larger modpack and really hated the fact that you're stuck in it, unable to go do all the other things in the game until you resolve its quests. When I played the mod I was also frustrated, but I just used the console to free myself from it until I was ready to do each part at my own pace, and I did enjoy it anyway, but they have an unwavering resentment for it as a result. Having also played the standalone game, free from that baggage it becomes much nicer.

    @MagicGonads@MagicGonads7 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I don't get why people add it to general mod packs. It's basically a game, and should be treated as such. When I played it, I just used a copy of my main save and used it exclusively for this mod.

      @peterlewis2178@peterlewis21786 ай бұрын
  • 8:20 that’s a damn good line

    @calibursatsujin3112@calibursatsujin31125 ай бұрын
  • Babe, new Ramblelime just dropped, wake up

    @GioGioPietromica425@GioGioPietromica4258 ай бұрын
  • Another banger video sir lime

    @teasticky@teasticky7 ай бұрын
  • COME BACK RAMBLE PLSS

    @Meanpeter1@Meanpeter13 ай бұрын
  • Kant was really kinda a Kunt, wasn’t he?

    @warlordofbritannia@warlordofbritannia8 ай бұрын
  • I love how sometimes you don’t need to be an expert to tell something is special. There’s just something extra there

    @calibursatsujin3112@calibursatsujin31125 ай бұрын
  • Love your content, mod Guy!

    @CaptainPerfect@CaptainPerfect4 ай бұрын
  • Enderall next. Nah, lets get a commision together and crowdfund modders for ES6

    @ayoo_wassup@ayoo_wassupАй бұрын
  • I would love to see a video about the Maids mod in Skyrim

    @SadderCatLin@SadderCatLin5 ай бұрын
  • 13:36 no Benny pic?

    @EstixLagomore@EstixLagomore8 ай бұрын
  • New upload!!

    @moewzers9136@moewzers91368 ай бұрын
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    @whyareyoulookingatthis236@whyareyoulookingatthis2368 ай бұрын
  • Hey man I just wanted to say that if you do want to do some more games, I’d love to know your thoughts on disco Elysium. The Starfield video could also be interesting.

    @willroth7521@willroth75216 ай бұрын
    • disco elysium should be the video after the next video. it's my favourite game of all time. still haven't tried starfield. bleh.

      @ramblelime@ramblelime6 ай бұрын
  • WHERE. DID. YOU. GO!

    @snokey1153@snokey11533 ай бұрын
  • talking about skyrim mods, neat. By the way check out Fourville for Fallout 4 Also if you are planning to do more Skyrim mods, I suppose Legacy of the Dragonborn is one thing, and plenty of Follower's mods like Inigo, Lucien, and Mrissi But with the many MANY mods still there to talk bout...might be a while.

    @BrenTenkage@BrenTenkage8 ай бұрын
  • Both the mod and the game are fascinating

    @chrisdiokno5600@chrisdiokno56007 ай бұрын
  • I'll be honest? I found this mod to be overhyped

    @eggmug562@eggmug5628 ай бұрын
  • Somebody ring the Dinkster?

    @thedinkster7547@thedinkster75477 ай бұрын
  • Please make a serious video on Fallout Equestria: Project Horizon.

    @jakespacepiratee3740@jakespacepiratee37405 ай бұрын
  • i am coming for you Immanuell

    @user-tk2lf1dv3s@user-tk2lf1dv3s6 ай бұрын
  • 𝐉𝐄𝐒𝐔𝐒 IS perfect.

    @Alx1744@Alx17446 ай бұрын
  • Any plans to cover Fallout: Frost?

    @wayneigoe6722@wayneigoe67227 ай бұрын
    • If I ever get gud enough to beat it .... Don't hold your breath for anything soon

      @ramblelime@ramblelime7 ай бұрын
  • Oh it's new

    @raditzhoneyham@raditzhoneyham8 ай бұрын
  • Kantian ethics has very little to do with “static moral laws” in the sense you’re implying-i.e., in terms of outright prohibitions on actions, or laws in a more general sense. I can see how one might get to that conclusion if all they’ve read is the Groundwork for a survey ethics course, though. There is a single moral requirement in Kantian ethics and that is to act with duty as your primary incentive for action.

    @XLegiitBadassX@XLegiitBadassX7 ай бұрын
  • Good grief man😮😮😮

    @gorlanguis1133@gorlanguis11335 ай бұрын
  • I personally feel forgotten city is overrated, not bad but people say it's one of the greatest things ever made or near flawless but like frankly both versions have pretty contrived and annoying shit. Especially when it comes to writing cliches and really weird parts that make the gameplay side feel under baked.

    @Shift_Salt@Shift_Salt5 ай бұрын
  • The mod author is a scumbag. Trying to heglelian dialetics me with liberalism. But I shouldn't expect more from a lawyer

    @louisalex98@louisalex986 ай бұрын
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