I Read a 620,000 Word Fallout/My Little Pony Fanfiction, Please Help
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This is the strangest thing I've ever done. To allow me to make even weirder things go here / ramblelime
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Intro 0:00-1:49
Structure/Format 1:50-13:33
A Failed Protagonist 13:34-23:37
Companions/Motivation 23:38-28:12
The Lore 28:13-40:14
Factions/Villains 40:15-49:20
Ending/Conclusion 49:21-53:05
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Thank you for watching :D
New California next. A few comments on this one though: This one was very hard for me to try to cover in good faith because it was so clearly "not for me" that I couldn't properly connect with it like so many people could. I tried to highlight the more positive things I had to say as much as I could to at least somewhat offset this There are several things I cut for time (Xenith, Spike, the Twilight Society, Topaz, Gawd, Arbu) and my opinions on them are as follows: good, fine, strange, mediocre, mediocre, bad. Hope this helps This is the first video I've done on something that hasn't been in a visual medium, so the pacing might be off a little bit. Apologies if this is true and I'm not just in my own head Anyway ye hope you enjoyed my silly little exploration into this strange titan of a story. Have a good day, see you in Cali 🌴
Please review Terrain Starship command for fallout 3 lol. One of the weirdest mods for fallout 3
I gotta say I found NC decent if compared to a regular game and incredible for a mod, I like that they used charisma for the dialogue checks more often then the base game even if those interactions were cringe and the luck check with the supernatant made me laugh which is impressive to me
Even as an enjoyer of MLP Friendship is Magic/former fan and a fallout fan this is not for me either. Mixing settings has lost its appeal on me because it strongly contrasts what I like about the settings. As it stands what you have described with the story's problems and its sheer length I have really no interest in getting into it.
Thank you for this! While I disagree on most points, I am just happy to see someone review this story seriously. Also your suffering is very enjoyable!
I absolutely love new california flaws and all
Fallout Equestria was my Barbenheimer
When you load equestria at war and old world blues at the same time
Balefire moment
“Its very hard to do a gunfight in writing” Theres a reason why most ttrpg actual plays do not do huge amounts of combat and focus on characters most of the time
Not a good comparison because TTRPGs still have the RPG element at play, which is something a book can't really have. A D&D paladin still has stats that he uses to in combat and i can have fun making builds for him, for example
@@funninoriginal6054 In addition most TTRPGS are actually wargames with social RP-Elements. In fact the focus on narrative is relatively new all things considered and prolly comes from CR and similar DnD shows. Giving a false perception of what most tables are probably like. Edit: Hence the name of DnD. Dungeons and Dragon's the focus was rarely on the big narrative but more on dungeon delving and dismantling a cult (usually through combat)
That wasn't true until Critical Role came through and made everyone realize the best parts of TTRPG actual plays is watching characters develop in real-time in mostly unscripted fashions, with combat serving as a spectacle story beat rather than something that happens randomly in accordance with an encounter table like in most games. Even then, Critical Role has *more* combat than most, and is all the better for it.
@@nananamamana3591 honestly I disaagree. The RP aspects of games like DnD is pretty exhausting if it isn't broken up by some combat or non-rp encounter like puzzles and such. It is mostly person dependant. But imo systems like 5e and similar are horrible to have a narrative focused campaign set in. Additionally I see a ton of games fall apart because the DM wants to capture the essence of CR, but fail as combat and non-rp encounters like traps and puzzles are a core part of the expereince. Arguably more important than the character development. From my personal experience. You have around 1 or 2 people loving the RP aspect of the game but games that only focuses on the narrative can really fall apart because narrative is a bit to hard to balance about 80% of players that from my experience enjoy different aspects of the game. You have powergamer, shy people, tacticians, etc. And only focusing on narrative can leave a large part of players behind.
Your point that this is very much a pony fanfic with some Fallout instead of an even mix of the two was always something that made me wonder what it would be like if a Fallout fan with zero interest in MLP read it, and I guess this answers it, they'd absolutely despise it lmfao.
My First Fallout was New Vegas and the moment someone told me that there was a MLP Fanfic, instead of being a close-minded F*** like some are now, i chose to read it. I got to chapter 40 or so and have been working on my own Fallout Equestria content.
@@MLPDethDealr32 for someone explaining about close mindedness, I don't think you even read the comment you're replying to.
@@MLPDethDealr32 How embarrassing
@@nagger8216 i feel like if you ignore the fact that its all a bunch of horses and imagine them as humans its pretty good fo3 fanfic
@@billeastwood597it's difficult when it has a lot of MLP stuff in it and not so much fallout. I mean they are talking about flying unicorns controlling the sun and moon how do you explain that away
Just want to say: I appreciate that you ACTUALLY give this time as an actual piece of fiction with things to actually read into. A lot of videos like this resort to "HAHA isnt fanfiction CRINGE" with absolutely nothing deeper to it.
I mean, the fanfiction in question *is* cringe, but not because it’s fanfiction, it’s because it’s just not very good at balancing the two worlds it’s trying to put together, or really telling a story in general
@FloodMother Bro not every commenter needs to hear your opinion lmao
@@funnatopia704 uh oh someone’s big mad that their favorite fanfiction isn’t very good (one of the admins of equestria daily literally said that it only got popular because it was posted at the exact right time and otherwise it was nothing special)
@@FloofMother You call fanfiction cringe, yet you're reaction was cringe itself.
@@FloofMother honestly while i disagree with you in every aspect imaginable ill still respect your opinion and also have to add on it was still a better fallout story than 4 and hit the enviromental vibe better than 76
the thing about writing style, is that it captured the feeling I had as a kid playing fallout 3. Simple joys of exploring things and all. But I can see how it would be annoying in written form, instead of an audiobook.
That's probably why I enjoyed it more, I listened to it as a (fan read) audio book bc sitting down and reading it was so daunting
I like that the ambience is very similar to the first two Fallout games.
Man I haven't listened to the Fallout Equestria series in years, forgot how good it was
If this guy did project horizons
Its unironically SO GOOD
Fallout equestria is one of my favorite books of all time, but I wouldn't wish project horizons on my worst enemy. I read it so you don't have to it's shit 1 out of 10 would not read again.
@VerboseChicken I don't think it's that bad.
Fallout Equestria is a lot like honest hearts reborn
This story is what got me interested in Fallout
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Man, what a throwback. I remember being in high school and absolutely devouring FO:E in like 4 days, being entirely obsessed with how it resonated with my own interests, and even tried working on my own FO:E content. I still hold it as a cherished piece of fanfiction, and I come back to various FO:E projects every so often to check up on them to this day.
Pretty much the same fam.
I've gotten back into FO: E and attempting my own fanfic, as someone who's never played Fallout its a little difficult, but I honestly just enjoy survival stories and hope to focus on the bonds folks learn to grow in a world where trust can be so fragile. Basically hoping to minimize the neat to talk about looting and firefights, but honestly I enjoyed that aspect of the original FO:E story bc each fight felt like a little bit of an arc for the story
Still suprising how well Kkat was able to blend them together. Though, FoE: Project Horizons was able to keep my interest more then FoE itself. Atleast go me interested in the Fallout franchise.
The most notable memory I have regarding Fallout Equestria was when I purchased the print edition and found out it included a mid-chapter side story consisting of Littlepip and Homage clopfic. Why...just...why?
Kkat approved!
@@peppermillers8361 I remember liking it at the time, but a decade removed I now find said side story not very well written.
Well, you're slightly wrong about the lockpicking being something only pip can do, but I don't blame you on that. There's a running gag about littlepip running into already picked locks or at one point even a lock with a jammed pick broken off in it if I recall, though it was minor enough I'm hazy on the specifics. I'm pretty sure these happen around fillydelphia, and based on the dualism between her and another character I'm pretty sure the implications behind these scenes are meant to be that Redeye is the other, previous lockpicker who roamed through filly before he decided becoming a slave lord was more his style over adventuring.
i've never been more scared, yet intrigued.
same
Why TF would you be scared
by the thumbnail I couldn't tell if this was a Ramblelime or Warlockracy video
Nice catch. The artist who does Warlockracy's thumbnails offered to do this one for me
Regarding Littlepip being the only pony in the world able to pick a lock, as much as it pains me to say that might actually be a thing borrowed from the source material in Fallout. There are _few_ named characters in the mainline series (prior to 76 at least; idk that game) who are explicitly skilled (rather than having to assume via profession) at picking locks, I'd wager barely into the double digits (and even then, that number's inflated from the forgettable Thieves' Guild of 1 and companions; and of that latter group all but three were introduced in 4 which didn't exist at the time of this fanfic being started and the one from 1 can literally only pick a single lock), and even fewer instances of anyone but the player characters actually picking locks on-camera. If you invested in Lockpick, it wouldn't be that hard to get the impression that your player character has at least a unique talent for this, and considering what you said about the fanfic being like a unabridged FO playthrough in text form it wouldn't surprise me if the author noticed this quirk and decided to incorporate it explicitly into the text. I could be wrong as I'm going mostly off memory, but skimming search results for various variations of "lockpick" on the Independent Fallout Wiki it seems I mostly have it right when I say lockpicking is mostly a player character skill. This is not a defense of the fanfic don't get me wrong (if anything it's the contrary; this is noticing an arguable flaw in someone else's work, then deciding to include it unmodified and unquestioned into your own writing), it's just that when you mentioned that lockpicking is Littlepip's unique Mary Sue ability, my brain drew a connection between that and the unabridged LP writing you remarked on and I realized something about these games I don't think I ever noticed before.
nice seeing a fallout equestria review from someone outside of this niche fandom strangely enough, I agree with most of the points you made about the book. I tend to see it as the worldbuilding book for the other fallout equestria books. I hope to see some other review of them sometime in the future, there's potential for a lot of videos after all: - project horizons (the longest and most controversial, you either love it or hate it (lots of gore, pain, misery and sex) lots of anime references too, it pushes the fallout equestria tropes very far, a bit too much for me but I'll let you make your own opinion) -murky number seven(also very long, hard to get past the first few chapter because of the misery that is also very present in this one but one of the most liked from the people that read it and my favorite, great character building, worldbuilding and a compelling story to go with it) -pink eyes (one of the shortest, and a very good one, a happy and at the same time extremely sad story, it can and will make you cry, one of the top stories for sure) -heroes (last and least known member of the "big five" I'd describe it as project horizons lite, it has a similar energy to it but never goes over the top with it, it also has very different plotlines that are very good, it has a clunky beginning but once the author finds their pace a fey chapter in, it's really good -the crysalis (an underrated gem with compelling characters a well written plotline and combats that are more interesting than the ones in most combat heavy fallout equestria as we see other aspects of it than simple gunfights)
Man, I would've probably checked those out back when I was into FoE, but I feel like I am way too old for them at this point. I did read Project Horizons (which I did like, ow the edge aside) and Pink eyes. Maybe in the future.
I'd recommend Viva Las Pegasus and Gardener. The former is a mafioso drama derived from New Vegas (still interesting though, and one of those where the main character is a dude who just wants big things without ‘imma a hero imma doin gud stuff‘ vibe), and the latter is just a short story about goodie stuff but done and portrayed better than usual.
@@DoofExMachina I've heard good things about these, I should definitely read them sometime in the future
So ive read FOE, FOE: Project horizons, Pinkeyes and most of Heros. Never had the time for Murkey number 7 and there was no audio book of it and i know next to nothing about the crysalis. since im a mega fan of FOE i guess i should put them on my bucket list.
Bit late to the party here, but I heartily recommend 'Old Souls' as well, having just read it
I'd recommend reading Murky Number Seven if you ever decide to read anything else related to FoE. It's more story focused and delves a lot deeper into Fillydelphia and Red Eye from the eyes of a trapped slave seeking his freedom.
I still need to buy a copy of Murky Number 7
I personally prefer Project Horizons to Murky Number Seven, but it is kind of a hot mess so it's understandably polarizing, not to mention absurdly long.
He didn't just find "a fanfic" he found THAT fanfic and I am so proud of you. We have a shared experience. My condolences.
It is very noticeable than this fanfic was written early in the show run. Mainly because further in the show we get introduced to new nations and species, this fanfic maybe was written (or planned) before the end of seasons 2, because at the end of that season we are introduced to the changelings, a race of shapeshifters who employ infiltration in the same way than the institute. But also because in season 5 we are introduced to starlight glimmer, starlight herself is not that important here, what is important is that her evil plan to defeat twilight consisted of traveling back in time and ensuring that the chain of events that led to twilight meeting her friends never happened, the consequences of this is that a villains of previous seasons ended up winning. The first timeline we are shown is one where equestria is in a war against the cristal empire, in the original show the cristal empire was under threat of king sombra, the main characters defeat him and the nation become an ally of equestria, but in the new timeline sombra manages to enslave the ponies of the cristal empire and send them to invade equestria, while the scenes of the actual fighting scenes are kinda silly, what isn’t taken as a joke is the effect of the war and how equestria spend every resource to continue the fight, the town of ponyville is deserted because everyone was either drafted to fight in the war or is working in some factory producing food or armor for the soldiers. Eventually twilight travels back in time but starlight managed to win again, causing another timeline, and that’s a cycle that repeats multiple times in that couple of episodes, finally twilight decides to drag starlight into the future she created and show her a future where… everything is dead, twilight and starlight stand in a place that wouldn’t be out of place in fallout, hell there is a couple of fanart where little pip watches the 2 from a distance or even confuses starlight for a raider and guns her down. In the end twilight convinces starlight to surrender with a speech check. The thing is, if fallout equestria had been written in… let’s say 2016 maybe the fanfic could had worked with those elements, either fallout equestria would take place in the last timeline given that is a wasteland already or fallout equestria could be a continuation of the king sombra timeline, revealing that the war continued escalating until both equestria and the crystal empire nuked each other, maybe including the changelings as an equivalent of the institute.
How and why would you know this and where are you getting this information
@@Orlando_Furioso I plead the fifth.
@@Orlando_Furioso Why are you acting like being a brony wasn't a thing that happened to a fair portion of the internet during the time of 2012~-2016? 4chan blew up the show, and it crept outward into many aspects of internet culture. Many content creators on early youtube were, or became, bronies, and many brony content creators have now gone on to be professionals in the industry of animation, voice acting, and music. Bronies are literally the Enclave Remnant, living totally normal lives now, having fought for a cause so ancient now despite it happening within the last half century.
@@nananamamana3591 Looking for the Remnants to see where they went
Oh hey that Wordgirl and Jojo crossover is mine! I'm just as surprised as you that it worked, honestly. -GM, master of sometimes inspiration strikes.
as a huge fan of fo:e, this was a fun watch and i enjoyed the points that you made! it was interesting to see how some of the exploratory aspects and fights were so lacking in value to someone who wasn’t already a fan of mlp. i also totally agree with your assessment at the end.
I love to see someone seriously covering Fallout Equestria. It's a bit silly, but this book shaped me to a very large degree. Got me into writing and the Fallout Equestria fandom kept me sane during an extremely dark time of my life. It's a flawed work now that I look back it being older, but I still deeply love it. Oh yes I also used to have a massive crush on Red Eye as a teenager, I know this and now you have to too.
Even though she shows up in PH, mines Rampage.
Wow you're so quirky and unique
@@Smorgasvord You could've just called me a faggot.
@Smorgasvord Bro go back to your damn homework kid.
You did bring up how multiple organizations exist and end up crossing over each other's boundaries all the time. Remember that the CIA, FBI, ATF, and NSA exist.
So the thing about the Goddess being an "evil villain" "muhahaha" "foolish mortal bow down to me" trope is because Trixie (the pony who fell in the vat) was originally this way (pretty sure whatever is in the alicorn formula is partly evil because on their own away from the Goddess' grip they're kinda psychotic and sadistic with their power. Also we do meet Enclave citizens wdym? There's a couple that come down after the battle at New Appaloosa
Yeah the Goddess is one of those aspects of this story that really only works if you're familiar with the source material. Trixie was a fan favorite, a sort of bumbling girlfailure anti-hero who you can't help but love. So finding out who she is hits you like a ton of bricks and hearing about the path that led her there becomes so tragic, and the context of her relationship to Twilight directly informs who she became. But without that context she's kinda just some random schmuck they brought in off the street.
This is a really nice surprise, Fallout Equstria is the book that shaped me into who I am today. Very well structured video, and you raised some very good points, even if some things you notice are explained in the show, but this is clearly from point of view of a non-brony, so it's still intetesting to listen to. Also, as several already pointed out, if you want a "better" version, read FoE Project Horizons. It's not really a sequel, it's basicly exactly like fallout 3 vs new vegas. While the original was written by kKat, at the time amateur writer, PH is written by collage profesor. It explores everything into even more depth, adds brand new characters, new story beats, but it's also very much wild wasteland. And if the lenght of PH is too much (1.8M words), there are many other amazing stories from this world. Murky number seven, a story of pegasus born into slavery trying to earn freedom. Pink Eyes, story of canterlot ghoul kid who's trying to find her mommy (it is absolutelly amazingly written comedy). Starlight, a story of alicorn after [spoiler for FoE] trying find herself. The world of fallout equestria is amazingly rich, and, thanks to lost lawsuit from bethesda and hasbro with author of FoE dead tree, is legaly it's own thing, meaning even more people can add to this amazing world
Was a pony fan for 3 years at the time I read FoE. I knew nothing about fallout, but heard FoE was god-tier amazing. Really enjoyed the book, got into reading a lot, mostly on fics based on that universe. FoE Project Horizons, even being one of my favourite stories, is something I wouldn't recommend if you didn't like Littlepip. The protagonist complains even more and finds herself in less believable scenarios. You most likely aren't going to do another pony fic, especially a longer one, but I still have to shine some light on my favourite fic of all time FoE Murky Number Seven. He is a slave in Fillydelphia - the slave city run by red eye. The main appeal I had in it was how grounded it was. From all the magic and abnormalities the original FoE had, here we have just a story of a slave trying to escape. He is a nobody, a background NPC that you'd shoot just to end his own suffering. I'm not that good at convincing, so I'm just gonna ask - read at least the first chapter. At least the description of the story.
Glad to see you like Steelhooves
He was easily MVP of the story.
Speaking as one who greatly enjoyed Fallout: Equestria, and even wrote a story directly inspired by it... this is an excellent and fair analysis, and showed me a lot of flaws in the story I hadn't really thought about before. Good video.
If you wanted to try something with patiance in your pocket, I would suggest the modification named Old World Blues for a grand strategy game hearts of iron 4. It has some really nice ideas for expanding the fallout world outside of things that we already know from the previous games and implementing the non-used ideas from Van Buren. Oh and there is MLP mod alongside with Fallout Equestria as well if you want ;)
And after playing balefire blues (hoi 4 FoE) he will discover Equestria at war , the best mod of Hoi 4 (no bias) and he will complete his transformation into a brony. jk still check out Eaw if you have Hoi 4, fully automated luxury bisexual space communism awaits.
@@spolachs1251 For fuck sake I didn't even wanted to spew stuff about EAW and someone already have spoiled the thing XD But yeah I agree with ya mate, definitly would love to see some of the outsiders to breakdown the wordlbuilding and impressions on it but from Ramble I would love to see OWB. Him or Warlockracy
Omg lmao. As a brony seeing you do a video on this is hilarious and makes me so happy at the same time. Been seeing your videos for years now. Still remember the April Fool's lmao.
For a Fallout fan's perspective on FO:E, that isn't tainted by being into MLP, this is a great criticism. As you pointed out the story is messy and jumps around from goal to goal and antagonist to antagonist often. The Worst thing is that it can be incredibly graphic for absolutely no reason and it's jarring to say the least. Glad you gave credit where credit is due when interesting characters or ideas were explored. It's a very fair perspective even with things I personally disagree with. Littlepip for example I understand why you'd find her annoying but i complete disagree on calling her a Mary-Sue. Purely because she has enough faults that other character actually call her out on, like her dangerous level of curiosity or as you mentioned her chem addiction and self hatred. Still great video and very fair criticisms overall Ramble . Also if you think FO:E was too long, messily structured and overly graphic don't go anywhere near Project Horizons. As much as I love it, It's all of those turned up to 11. Murky Number 7 is really great though but almost twice as long so again I couldn't fault you for keeping far away.
Christ, what a thing for to just make a video on. Now do Project Horizons, which is over 1.5 Million Words long.
so excited for this used to love this shit as a kid and never expected one of my favorite youtubers to cover it.
super cool to see this remembered after so many years! its a shame that while FoE worldlbuilding (worldmerging?) was genuinely interesting, the pacing, plot and characterisation fell somewhat short (likely since this wasn't planned to be as big as it eventually got). FoE Project Horizons did a far better job with both but i wouldn't blame you for not feeling up to it, especially since it's... what, twice as long as the original? still a delight to see you cover this piece of what's basically internet history at this point!
Honestly, I hardcore disagree about PH. It’s strongest feature is it’s worldbuilding, but especially later on everything from pacing to character development takes a back seat to getting a field trip through Somber’s playground. I still love it because the worldbuilding is that good, and the first 30ish chapters are insanely good in every regard, but after that things stagnate *hard*. Blackjack especially just spends the last 3/4s of the book spinning her angst wheels in progressively more dire and depressing circumstances and that’s it. Some side characters have better pacing because they never get the chance to go stale, but being stuck with Blackjack the whole way through makes it hard to say the character work is better than the original.
@@thomasyoung3342 i see your point! to each their own, i suppose - although i did read PH right after the original, so the contrast must have played its role, since the former is just... better written imo. i was never a big fan of 1st-person POV fic, but it's done well enough in PH to make me comfortable with spectating the world through Blackjack's eyes. that being said, Blackjack just works heaps better as an underdog archetype for me, and the "progressively more dire and depressing circumstances" part likely resonated with me at the time, so i enjoyed it along with the perseverance theme for her character. started rereading it recently, so i'm curious to see if my opinion will change!
I binge-read Fallout: Equestria circa 2012 when I was in secondary school in my huge early brony phase and I loved it. I didn't necessarily have excellent taste in literature at the time so it blew my mind and was this perfect read. I actually think you make several good points and I appreciate that you covered it in good faith rather than just "OMG ponies are cringe amirite guys?!"
I loved this book growing up. Took forever to read but honestly helped me quite a bit with my own struggles, gave me a new lens to look at things theough, which at the time I really needed. It also got me into fallout, something I didn't even know was a thing till reading FoE, which, given that FNV is one of my favourite games now, is something I'm not complaining about! Whilst we may not agree on some things it's nice to hear someone from outside the mlp space talking about the story constructively. Was very interesting to hear your take on it. Keep up the good content, look forward to seeing your next video:3
But have you read Project Horizon? Also, 6:00, what? Littlepip spent her whole life in a Stable. The point of the early combat encounters which aren't relevant to the main quest is to contrast the safety she used to have with the violence of the rest of the world. It's to confront her with hardship and force her to change. It's also to give the the opportunity to do good in the wasteland.
This story is unironically what got me into Fallout. I frankly think this is a great story. Not just a great fanfiction, just a really well written story in general.
i'm glad i listened to your whole video and allowed myself to agree with you on a lot of points, internet culture has kinda trained me to instinctively react negatively to criticism of something i'm a fan of, and unlearning that attitude and accepting that just because I like something doesn't mean it's good has taken a while. really looking forward to the new california video!
oh, I get that with some things, but I tend to be very passionate about things I love.
Hey im really glad you actually did it, it's nice to see others outside of this strange merge of fandoms talk about it. And funnily enough I agree with most of the stuff even though i do like it. Great work love your videos, and if you do see this please have a good.
Y'all are fucking mad trying to make this poor man read Project Horizons, I read a little of it and didn't hate it, but there's no way in hell lime is gonna enjoy it given his criticisms of the original. Read Murky Number 7 instead, its focus is a lot narrower which lends itself better to characterization. It's definitely one of my favorite pieces of pony fanfiction and easily better than the original
Damn guiding this man into project horizons is just making him hate the fandom all out instead.
There is always copium.
@@omegaprime516 you look more fixated about the fic than me lmao
Nice video. Thanks for taking a look into this work. A few responses/arguments I made throughout the video: 1: The fights could get a bit repetitive, but Kkat changed things up enough for me to keep my attention. Helped that I was listening to the audiobook and imagining it in the game setting. 2: I won't disagree that Lilpip could be seen as a Mary Sue, but I don't think that the lockpicking is an example of that unless you include every Fallout protagonist, ever. I view her as a fallout character in an equestrian dlc. Makes a lot more sense that way. 3: The overly detailed horribleness is kind of off-putting and unnecessary, but I think I understand where it came from. It's a juxtaposition between the prewar era and the post war era. Also, if you go into a raider nest or a supermutant den you'd see the same stuff (flayed bodies in cages, bags of miscellaneous meats, dismembered people, etc) you just gloss over it in a visual medium since it doesn't take long to look past it to the next fight or objective instead of needing to read several paragraphs to get there. 4: Your dislike of Lilpip is noted. Eh, nothing is for everyone. 5: Weirdly enough, the side content was some of the best stuff for me. Again, definitely helped that I was listening to an audiobook, which made things more dynamic. The side content is also where a lot of the character interactions and character development happen.
this video is amazing, i found your content through the New California video and i was overjoyed to see this in my recommended, i love how you actually interacted with both the fan-fic and MLP respectfully and as just a Fallout fan, anyways great video cant wait for the follow up on Project Horizons lol /)
6:19 Dang, the stuff that went over my head because I listened to the story when falling asleep. 12:43 What? The point was about not loosing one's self in retaliation to violence. 25:45 Gaston 47:46 Yah, she's more like a parody of her character from the show.
you summed up my feelings on this fanfiction perfectly, there are so many things in it that feel like it has so much potential, but it falls flat in so many ways.
kinda crazy how this fanfic before fallout 4 was almost as, if not more popular than fallout itself, like everyone that i met read the fanfic but had no clue what fallout is or they knew about it but didnt care for it until fallout 4 dropped
Fantastic review. I read it back in 8th grade when I had... no friends and a ton of time. And again about 2 years ago at work. This story is... a product of its time that's for sure. You really hit the nail on the head about how much of it was filler. It's no wonder I was able to listen to it at work and mostly follow along. Just... all of your points are right. Hearing an outsider cretique is great cause over the years it was people in the community just saying "Oh it's so good!" and that's more us enjoying the little sub-community about it and ignoring glaring issues. It's all flawed but we're having fun. Dosen't mean I haven't been waiting for a proper review like this for like 8 years though. I can't thank you enough for giving it a shot. Been in the MLP community for 11 years and for anyone to give some of our content a genuine chance makes me so happy. You were able to look past every stereotype and story you heard and still tried. Even if it isn't the best, I'm glad our weird little world of ponies gave you something to do.
I listened to this thing as a fan of neither game or show, and came out intrigued in both, now a fan of both. I agree with most of what you said about this monstrous fanfaction, and it still kinda holds a part of me as what brought me into both fandoms, one having more of a foot in my life than the other. I even listened to it again after watching the show (up to wherever it was in late 2013) and enjoyed it more after understanding the characters as they are in the show, likewise after playing Fo3, both gave me more insight into the world of the fanfic.
Omg you have no idea how excited I was to see a new upload from you! Also love the English professor look you have going on in this! Where did you get the tan button up you’re wearing?
an internet fable that after hearing dissected im somewhat interested in reading for its insight in fictive expreesion. great video ramblelime!
Great video. In the topic of crossovers recommend the Mass effect/Halo called "When there was a Tommorrow" by General Rage.
Dude, if you enjoyed the fanfiction you're probably going to enjoy reading a side story of it called Project Horizons, it's 1.8 million words long iirc, and I've heard people describe it with this quote: "Project Horizons is like marmite, if you don't like it you really hate it, but if you like it you really really like it." And that rings so true, because Project Horizons takes everything about fallout Equestria, cranks it up to eleven and sprinkles anime and wild wasteland on top of it, it can be pretty enjoyable, I've also heard the "Heroes" side story is pretty good too, there's also some new ones that I've read recently that are also pretty good if you enjoyed Project Horizons, like Blue Destiny, which goes balls to the walls crazy and hides a very well written story behind a facade of humor.
I don't think he'd like project horizons, don't get me wrong I'd totally watch a video on it but all the things that he disliked in foe are the things that are cranked up in ph (my opinion might be tainted bacause I'm on the don't ike side of the marmite: the big amount of samey combat (the location vary but most combats are either blackjack or another character absolutely decimates the wave of mobs in front of them or bj gets beat up until a deus ex machina comes up) the ministries are even more mixed and lesss independant because of the whole O.I.A thing morning glory is very one note and like velvet remedy on overdrive most of the time the plot is very scattered and full of filler and always puts in new antagonists, plot points and stakes even more than in foe also half the story would have to be put on his patreon if he had to do it for pip and homage (jk) I think he might like the crysalis a bit more or maybe murky number seven since they are more character centered with a smaller cast and very dynamic growth (since his favorite part was steelhooves)
@@mares164I think he'd enjoy the chrysalis more as murky number seven is kinda long. While I enjoyed his (rather long) character arc, quite a few people I've talked to didn't like how the first part of the story where his character "is just constantly woe is me".
As a die-hard PH fan, I would only ever recommend the first 16 chapters to outsiders.
@sapphie132 Now this I think is a fair recommendation.
Yeah, this is completely fair. If someone feels that the Equestrian-style naming conventions are more of an eye-roller than a fun little pun, or that Littlepip is an annoyingly whiny protagonist, FOE would be a slog to get through. That and the narrative criticisms are more than well-founded. Littlepip being the best lockpicker would be fine if she wasn't the only pony that knows how to lockpick, basically. I genuinely don't remember anything about Velvet Remedy other than her being extremely tempermental and self-righteous, which made her unlikeable a lot of the time even when she was making good points. Though I don't think that makes her a bad character per se, I've known people who are exactly like that: one personality trait at a time, only ever in the extremes. The Steel Rangers were unquestionably my favorite faction, with Steelhooves as a favorite character, so them being the most well-explored and well-realized facets of the narrative makes a lot of sense. I read this story in my mid-late teens and adored every page, though I will say I don't know how I feel about this story being my first "proper" experience with the Fallout franchise. I've only just this year played an actual game (New Vegas), which is a much better introduction so far. Good video, man! EDIT: Also, yes, there IS NO MORE TO READ. Project Horizons does not exist. It has never existed. Red and Black Alicorn OCs aren't a thing. Please GOD stop the pain.
I don't know about you, but all I remember are the "Big 4" fics. Definitely just 4
I wouldn't say Project Horizons was THAT bad. But maybe I'm biased.
Cool seeing my favorite story be read, I understand it's not everyone's thing but for me it's favorite story writed. I do have some disgreements mainly from Little Pip, I see being skillful as just normal main stuff. We don't how Luke became more powerful then most jedi in a short amount of time or why Sherlock is just so smarter then everyone. All MCs need to be a bit special in order to be able get through the plot, just look at Fallout protags which Little Pip is.
Fallout: Equestira was the first fanfiction I read that made me realize fanfiction didn't have to be wish fulfillment. It was probably the "book" most responsible for helping me learn to look for themes in written works. It was such a big part of my life for a few years that I was part of Overmare Studios and worked on the Ashes of Equestra game. I love the book and can't understate how it much it helped further my reading comprehension. Even with all that I still found myself agreeing with nearly all your points. Calamity and SteelHooves were the two best written characters. Velvet Remedy was nearly forgettable and caused too much trouble for the group for me to truly like her. And I was very much reading more for the Memory Orb bits than Littlepip's story at a few points. As a fan of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, I thought the pun names mirrored how the show handled things quite well and it made the story feel more in line with the MLP universe. I also read Littlepip's guilt complex as a motivating factor for her, but when trying to re-read the story, I find myself skipping those chunks of the text so I can't argue against you points there. A small amount of background on the rushed ending; other sources at Overmare Studios that had successfully messaged Kkat claimed that she saw the fanfictions of her work and didn't like where things were going with them, so she rushed her planned ending over something like the last 3 chapters. Doesn't make them any better, but does help explain why the Enclave is rushed past so quick. Kkat also supposedly said that looking back she wished she had allowed herself to use curse words in the first chapters of the book, and I suspect the "creative swears" Littlepip uses were originally conceived to help get around this and turned into a bad running joke. Again, doesn't change the text and death of the author, but it sounds like even Kkat might agree with you on those two points. I feel so sorry for you if you read chapter 20.5, which your Patrion plug implies you did. Also don't Read Project Horizons. It's not worth it. It's well writen and fleshes a lot of things out, but it's too long and not worth it overall. Lastly, you mentioned pictures would have made the reading easier. Well, I have a third edition printing of the book with an images that accompanies every chapter. If, for some reason, you still want to see those, let me know and I'll scan and get them to you.
I just finished Fallout Equestria today and feel this review does the book justice. Despite how Velvet Remedy was described and I can see his point, she's still my favorite in the story. But man, the last chapter tore at my heart strings a lot. Was glad in the end Homage sorta had a happy ending with Littlepip.
It's very fascinating to see an outsider to fo:e actually give it a thorough look and a chance, I'm always very happy to see one of the most defining pieces of media for me getting attention, even if you don't enjoy it. While I'd love to see you cover Project Horizons at some point I fully understand if you'd rather move on from wasteland ponies. Some things to note about Fo:E though, the story itself was never really fully planned, like most fanfic the author did stuff as she went along rather than having a cohesive plan from the start which is why the story is A) Overly long and B) Messy, it's also why there are so many combat/loot scenes as the story was not released in a finished state all at once but rather, again like most fanfic, it was released chapter by chapter at a semi-regular pace over the course of several months. This is important to note because the experience of reading it with long breaks between chapters is very different from reading it as a book and its an experience that can't really be replicated. Project Horizons by contrast did... mostly, have a cohesive plan from its inception so it ends up being a much better experience to read as a single, albeit absurdly long, book. Anyways thanks for covering the niche thing that I really like, cheers.
I have no idea how, after describing Fallout Equestria like this (which I find fair) you go on to describe Project Horizions as having a plan and being a more cohesive experience.
Project Horizons 💀
@@moonblaze2713 because believe it or not it did have its ending planned, it just uh... got sidetracked, but unlike the original Horizons always had a thing that was driving the plot forwards and leading somewhere. That's why I said it mostly had a cohesive plan
Disagree with the planned part of PH. PH is even more messy and tacked together than the og FoE. Infact SPOILERS btw. One of the chapters where blackjack supposedly "dies" was actually a chapter where backjack died and we continue the story through the eyes of another character. But since BJ was so well liked and the author grew attached to them as well. She was kept in the story. BJ herself as a character is what I would describe as "so bad she's good" type of character.
@@ambientlightofdarknesss4245 PH was also just an absolute mess in general, and is only readable thanks to the countless hours invested by editors
Fallout Equestria is actually really good
An addendum to this after watching the full video, I was more of an MLP fan than fallout so it makes sense I liked it so much. But I also listened to the audiobooks rather than actually read them which also skews my perspective
Ty for gracing me with this masterpiece on a random Monday lmao it was fun to listen to while I was at work
The thing I like so much about Fallout: Equestria is that it actually solves so many problems I have with the concept of Fallout itself. Radiation doesn't work that way- But magic can and does in MLP. Prewar America wouldn't get stuck in retro culture like that for centuries, full of random weird patriotism and anachronisms- But Equestria did. Lasers don't work like that- If they're magic, they do, and magic crystals are renewable in Equestria. Ponies would be the sort to make stupidly friendly robots like the Mr. Handies. Ponies, with their fixations on life roles, are the ones who would looooove the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. aptitude test. Ponies act a bit different because they're prey animals- herd animals. Its shown very early on in the show. And they're prone to the psychotic breaks that lead to the worst of the worst of the Wasteland. The kind of thing that makes Fallout baddies so damn colorful. Ponies also have a number of precogs and black magic that reflects the supernatural elements of Fallout that otherwise goes unexplained. Heck, even Fallout 4 legendary weapons sometimes fit into the narrative of the special items enchanted using the Black Book. There's a great video called "Fallout 2 for Terrible People" which demonstrates that the series has really always been strongly preoccupied with funneling you towards a good option and a contratian option, but the thing that makes Fallout Equestria really special is how it really puts the nature of the Good Karma run to the test in a narrative structure. Or perhaps, it puts the kid-friendly message of Friendship is Magic to the test in a very dark framework? But either way- these ideas feel generally solid IMO, and that's pretty nice. ... But I gotta say, I was one of the people who could never commit to the cartoon horse thing. I do like my ponies, but every*pony* was, like, an elf in my brain lol. I just like this idea of Fantasy Fallout that doesn't break the Fallout elements
Reading this as the first fanfiction I ever read and because of its ties to Fallout, I really enjoyed it, and got quite into the community around it. I *still* play games with people I met there 10 years later, and it is with those people I started several hobbies I greatly enjoy to this day. It also existed in the gap between New Vegas and Fallout 4, which definitely made it more appealing than it might otherwise have seemed because I was desperate for Fallout. I entered into the pony scene as a result for a short time as well, but it didn't stick like Fo:E did. So yep, it's definitely not a greatly-written story, but I think there are some things to note that explain - to an extent - a lot of its problems. It was written serially, as with most fanfictions. It was originally just a fun little thing the author threw together, but it got popular and expectations grew and they kept writing beyond its initial scope. This causes a lot of the tonal and narrative flow problems as you point out, and feedback directly affected the writer's style over time for better and worse. And of course, that it is written in the manner of an imagined Let's Play is deliberate and made it fun and easy to read for the young me - it's probably pretty-maddening to read as a fully-formed adult. There is a novelty to going through a gameplay loop in text, but it gets repetitive without the feedback of a video game's systematic support. The Halo novels have a lot of that as well, and re-listening to those later in life they weren't as good in parts due to that sort of writing. Lastly, it is in many ways an adaptation of the now-popularly-maligned story and world of Fallout 3 and a love-letter to it, so it inherits many of its flaws unapologetically. It wasn't nearly as popular to hate on Fallout 3 for its nonsense when it was written and that can perhaps be construed to mean our standards have risen for narratives and settings to immerse ourselves in. You probably would die if you forced yourself to read what is often considered its successor in Project Horizons, much less compose a cogent video about it. I never finished it thanks to being very busy with schooling during its writing, but you would not enjoy what it does do better for the quantity of what is carried forward from the original into it.
Holy shit... you actually did it, love you man, thx so much for doing it. Now for you to play the 2d fangame Fallout Equestrian Remains
I bought a published version of Fallout Equestria. Best novel I ever purchased.
I actually loved fallout equestria when I read it when I was younger it was a good perspective
The wasteland survive guide is made by one of the Brony fandom most beloved characters in the show and you And fallout equestria is a mix of the fallout franchise and a show about pastel colored pony’s in a world that is all about friendship and magic
You can get more content on the lore of fallout equestria if you watch the first 2 seasons of My Little Pony Friendship is magic
The ministry of awesome is just a cover and there are multiple fallout equestria stories that add more lore to the original fallout equestria like fallout equestria project horizons, which is way more fucked up and would make you question your sanity and also fallout equestria falling shadows which is mainly about a mayor from a stable that lost more than she had losing her mayor friend her family her almost all her friends, and even having the enclave controlling her best friend and lots I mean lots of fucked up shit Oh and fallout equestria Falling shadows in heavily inspired by fallout new Vegas But the new Vegas is called New Pegasus
Im probably one of the biggest FOE fan out there (seriously, i have the stabletech logo tatted on my shoulder.) But i did enjoy the points that you made and it was nice seeing a outsiders perspective and not just a continuous echo chamber praising FOE as a flawless work of literature. I do hope that you will review Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons in the future. Berceuse in my opinion that is the best one. The best way i can describe it is that, Fallout Equestria crawled so FOE PH could be and Olympic athlete. It also adds to the existing story and dose improvements here and there. I also tell this to most people that when Fallout or MLP comes up in conversation. You dont necessarily have to be a fan of both MLP and Fallout to enjoy the universe of FOE.
Silly names hinting or outright telling what pony does for a living is a byproduct of MLP show. It was always like this in there. For example, Red Heart is a nurse, Mayor Mare is a mayor, Lyra and Octavia are both musicians one of them plays, you guessed it, lira, Vinyl Scratch is a DJ (who btw was a DJ PON3), Daring Do is an adventurer, etc. It is more centered on MLP because it is a "what if" apocalypse happened in MLP. It just HEAVILY borrows from Fallout, but all-in-all a stand alone MLP fanfiction. When I read it I didn't know what Fallout was exactly, I never played it, only watched few times how my cousin plays it. I was pretty happy with how it turned out. Now do Project Horizons. Just kidding. This abomination is hard to read. It isn't particularly bad, but just hard to read.
Just seeing this _title_ gave me flashbacks to a different time in my life. Thank you for your service in documenting... *This.*
This is going to be juicy with a side of Friendship
you hit the nail on the head at the start: this feels like a gameplay-based storytelling, and it's a fanfic about MLP:FiM first and a fallout after that. all of the point you bring up about "why does that overlap?" and "why the fact are thing are so bad is so much cussed on" is due all of them being counterpart to one of the episodes of the first season, season which had a "cowboy and indian" setup being resolved by trowing pies and becoming friends over that, season which had an episode about how each of the tribe working alone was so much counterproductive that a single day operation ended up taking much much longer (and later, halfway into production, had a whole "the noncooperation between the ancestor give life to literal spirits of cold and dead") and some such. the ministries walking all over each-other foot is stressed as the protagonist breackdown. the alicorn deity only works if you saw the original episode introducing the second component the big thing it did, it's that it bridged a lot of people that loved fallout but hhad already finished new vegas and all the related mods at the time to the pastel pony side, and pushed people to try their hand at apocalypse based storytelling, and storytelling in general, with the other big stories, and a few short hidden gems, to work and expand on the world created by kkat, which would be much more palatable to everybody it's a silly little story, which ballooned to titanic size and for a decade has been one of the Moloch of the fandom and the cause of just so much salt from the rough and tough fallout fan "that played BoS and Liked It". would have loved to be a fly on the wall at bethesda pr studio and see the mail team react to all of the angry mail asking for C&Ds, at least for the one actually sent to them in the end, even if friendship is magic or not, the important thing is bashing heads when needed, and bringing a friends to move all the loot!
I am very confused and also very bewildered the same time.
I think part of the issue reading it as a work is that it was written as a peruodical, as most long fanfiction is. So, a lot of its structure is probably more forgivable when it is a story of the week/month. Forget how frequent it updated. You have your action scene of the week, it gets less repetetive.
It's not a great story by any means, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't voraciously read this whole thing as a 14 year old.
One of the ways you COULD'VE made Littlepip less of a mary Sue AND cut down on the amount of combat encounters (i cant believe im saying this) is to make her fairly inept at combat. Having vault dwellers being able to hold their own in combat ala fo3 always bothered me and it could've been interesting to see a main character constantly trying to AVOID combat. Hell maybe you could make the constant lockpicking and the mentat addiction into this. That could also be key in her relationships with her companions, and maybe through bonding with them she learns how to handle herself. I mean, I assume the writer would somehow mess this up and make her feel like a damsel in distress. Idk why i found this video engaging or why im trying to think about how to fix the narrative of this my little pony fanfiction i just am.
I read this fanfic when I was in 8th grade, read it along with its Russian translation. When you read chapter by chapter and along with the translation, inconsistencies and all sorts of little issues get lost. Recommend Pink Eyes.
Oh also, now that you've finished the tactful fallout 3 fanfic, try project horizons, the unhinged fallout NV fanfic that's as heavy handed as a silverback gorillas
Ah Fallout Equestria, a classic, lots of great spinoffs
There are no words for my level of elation upon seeing, not only an upload from you, but an upload with THIS title…
Ok, now watch 221 episodes of my little pony
Another day another banger, can't wait for your next daily video
If I am known for anything it is my consistent upload schedule
Loved the sw bit, lmao. I was legit brought back to those online debates for a moment, before I saw the writing at the bottom
Man, i read this thing 5 years back and really enjoyed it then. Its interesting to look back and realize the stuff i kinda glossed over, good review my man. I uh, i do apologize for contributing to making you do it though
any chance for you to do a short vid covering esmes quest from enderal, and correcting some stuff that you got wrong in the long vid. dream of the dying book review would be cool too. love the channel keep up the good work.
I've been itching to get back into that world for a while. More likely I'd do Nehrim first but Esme/DotD are both very possible
I’ve read a lot of these, there’s the Godzilla x mlp fanfiction that I’m pretty sure is actually endless because the reading guide is like 50 pages, there’s talons and tails that throws a few school children from a dark fantasy novel called wings of fire in to the how to train your dragon Netflix cartoon, do I even have to explain how that’s a bad idea, and finally there’s a mlp jojo crossover I found where the cast of mlp are forced through the first 4 arks of jojo and there’s a weird scene where koichi said that queen chrysalis doesn’t believe in love to one of his class mates at school.
Now read FoE: Project Horizons
1.7 million words of characterization through CBT
Do not listen to this man, he is deranged. Do not read PH
Don't force him to do it. Even I almost died while reading this. I liked it, but I still almost died
Why are you telling me about this? Thanks to you I need to hear through the complete Story as an Audio Book.😁😙
I would love to see you do a review on the sister series project horizons
I dont agree with all your critiques but it was very interesting getting to hear fleshed out thoughts on FoE from a fallout fan's perspective rather than an MLP fan's. That said, i honestly think that season 1 of MLP: Friendship is Magic is kinda required reading for Fallout Equestria. While i think there are lots of elements that function well without that context it really makes the wartime portions just that much better. Also happy to hear you found the addiction narrative to be well put together, during my first reading a decade ago in high school it was the part that resonated with me the most. I never struggled with any hard drugs but i had begun letting my "need" to escape via smoking weed get in the way of friendships. Witnessing where that can lead helped me reorient myself.
A lot of problems of this fanfic come from the fact that it's based on Fallout 3. A lot of its fanart have the same torturous green and grey filter. The factions are as sillly as in original Fallout 3 - like Fallut 3's Enclave and Tenpenny Tower. Characters are broken and unrealistic - like this floating bot that flies for no reason and probably would be put down and scavanged in the real Wasteland and a DJ characrter based on Three Dog. Seems like one of not many decent characters is this Red Eye who is probably based on Caesar.
The Red eye is based on the character Ishmael Ashur. All of his France is a literal blueprint for an add-on: The Pitt. Unfortunately, this fanfiction copies of Fallout 3 Many characters from the Fallout Equestria are just a template without the idea of the original villains from the first Fallout games. From the writer's interview, I realized that she generated the chapters of Fallout Equestria quite by accident. It can be said that the meaning of the environment and characters within the world has been omitted - Their goals are not important, as is the development. These are the dudes that need to be defeated.
Nice Amanda pfp
Finally took years but you Finally made it I been unironicly waited for this long now let's watch
Important note, all the horse puns and on the nose names is taken straight from MLP. Fillydelphia is in FiM as well
You didn’t mention who her who velvet remedies great, great grandmother was there’s like a whole history with her lineage, which is why she’s a great singer, and why she cares so much
I am absolutely in love with your content, as shallow as it feels to use the dreaded “C” word. From your gentle peppering of your own political leanings, your analysis on story construction and writing, to your idea on how the implementation of an idea could be better or worse. I’ve watched nearly all of your videos, and what’s wild is I’m leaving this heartfelt comment on the Fuck king Fallout: Equestria video.
Absolute cult classic
So the deal with Littlepip being good at lockpicking is because she often picked around with small tools on pipbucks... Also MLP has thing thing where their cutie marks aren't always direct, Littlepip explained hers was finding people (like how she got her cutie mark) so finding items through lockpicking can work too. Also some people just have skills bro, some people are just good at specific things and with MLP this is something everyone has.
Theres a flash game that takes place in the FO:E universe. However it follows a completly different storyline though the characters remain the same. It is quite fun tho im not sure if its playable anymore.
15:22 Idk why, I've seen this sort of joke hundreds of times but I can imagine mr. Ramblelime saying this all in one breath and that makes it funny to me now.
The perfect cross section of both of my hyper fixations towards the end of high school. I still have both FoE and FoE Project Horizons on my Kindle, even though I haven't read them in years.
I don't understand why you call Lil Pip a Marry Sue for being able to pick locks. Far as I can recall, its not as though any of the locks she ever attempted to crack where more complex than office door or an ammo crate and I distinctly recall a scene when she was frustrated by the fact that an unknown rival had unlocked supplies before her and had jammed a very difficult lock that she needed to spend a good while trying to pick with patience. Her companion that was mentioned would also sooner shoot off locks or break them open rather than bother picking them.