Bruce Lee's Daughter Punches Back At Quentin Tarantino
Join us in this deep dive as we explore the controversial depiction of martial arts legend Bruce Lee in Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood." Our latest video delves into the heart of the debate, ignited by Tarantino's portrayal and further fueled by his comments on the Joe Rogan Show.
Behind the Controversy: We rewind back to the 1960s, highlighting Bruce Lee's groundbreaking impact on martial arts and his challenging journey in Hollywood. Discover how his legacy continues to inspire, long after his passing.
Clash of Perspectives: Witness the clash between Tarantino's creative vision and the real legacy of Bruce Lee. We dissect the contentious scene from "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood," where Lee's character, played by Mike Moh, confronts Cliff Booth, portrayed by Brad Pitt.
Research vs. Reality: Uncover the flaws in Tarantino's research about Bruce Lee. We scrutinize the claims made by Tarantino against the accounts in Gene Lebell's autobiography and other credible sources, revealing a stark contrast in narratives.
Shannon Lee Strikes Back: Hear from Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon Lee, as she defends her father's legacy against Tarantino's depiction. Learn about her efforts to correct the narrative and her recent criticisms of Tarantino in her book promotion interviews.
The Industry's Take: Gain insights from prominent figures like Donnie Yen and stunt coordinator Robert Alonzo, who share their perspectives on the portrayal of Bruce Lee in Tarantino's film.
Final Thoughts: We conclude with a reflection on the balance between artistic freedom and historical accuracy, underscoring the need for respectful and well-researched portrayals of real-life figures.
Whether you're a Bruce Lee enthusiast, a martial arts aficionado, or just interested in film controversies, this video is a must-watch. Dive into the debate, uncover the facts, and join us as we seek to preserve the true legacy of Bruce Lee.
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The movie's semantic is not for literally true, but figurative real instead. Every thing happens to real people wasn't historically accurate, whereas every representative of certain people was in the way it was. That's why the movie's name and why it is in an artistic fashion. Because it is a movie about a tragic history and it has to be performed in a Quentin's entertaining way. Therefore when Bruce Lee meets a stuntman played by Brad Pit, Bruce Lee has to lose because it is not historically accurate and Brad's stuntman win because stuntmen are always the true badass. Quentin respects his own movie language, therefore the scene has to go that way, and he did.
Tarantino is a XENOPHOBE with an American superiority complex mixed in, from my brief analysis, that is what's going on. Him saying Bruce Lee said this and that about the "American" stuntmen when coupled together with his campaign to get rid of non-American actors pretty much exposes what's going on in his head, The dude can't take a foreigner like Bruce Lee (he was born in California but raised in Hong Kong) outshining real 'MERICANS and looked to destroy his image. This mirrors the struggle of Bruce Lee when he came to America, dealing with American nativist like Tarantino and seemingly, Samuel L. It just so happens that Tarantino's favorite black person, Sam L, seems to share this Xenophobia with Tarantino, remember when Sam L was going after them black British actors a lil while back. This might be why Sam L and Tarantino are such buddies, Sam L was either always this way or Samuel L adopted it from Tarantino. lol
We ALL Know those masters aren't worth anything they claim to be, too many videos of them getting embarrassed right here on KZhead. 99.999999% of the so-called masters cannot fight. Too many videos PROVE that.
Dude your dedication to thoroughly defend Bruce Lee is Pulitzer worthy.
Thank you!
Bruce made a great quote: If everyone loved there neighbour nobody would be without help.
Jesus Lee 😂😂😂😂
@@matthewlogan4267 I wonder how being crucified comes into play with Jesus Lee.
I like that one! Where did you find it?
@thegladve I guess getting crucified by eggrolls or fortune cookies naild into his rist or palms and feet 😑😑😑😑🇨🇳
@@matthewlogan4267 guess so.
Mistakes are always forgivable , if one has the courage to admit them... Bruce Lee
Right, if Tarantino did that wrong so and any other, should publicly apologize to fans and Bruce lee family and friends.
he accepts no wrong doing because it's his art...he must be staunch he is not going to backtrack on anything he has envisioned and created that would be weak and confused
@@sasa-ix9yd That my friend I understand deeply, unfortunately, he has envisioned what it is art only in his mind, thanks for commenting.
Who'd he plagiarise that quote from.
😢What a person, what a character. Missed forever. 😞
Planet of the Apes, Dinosaurs, comic books & Bruce Lee are all cherished memories of my childhood.
You could be me, except for the comic books, lol
Awesome comment mane real deep I hear you
No one can make us believe that Bruce Lee was anything like he was portrayed in that movie. It was shameful, and it pissed me off as a lifelong fan of Bruce. I'm a 74 year old Black woman from Chicago. I remember the impact Bruce had on the world of every color. It was amazing just how fast we fell in love with not just the martial artist but the man himself. Tarantino 's movie disrespected Bruce and should be addressed. We love you still, Bruce, even after all these years. That will NEVER change. ❤❤
True Amen. Bruce wasn't perfect personally, but his positive qualities remain inspirational to this day. The more I learn about the real guy, the more I respect him, flaws and all.
Tarantino is a creep, period. We ALL loved Bruce Lee in the 70's. The man is a legend, and we're still talking about him.
@@rdred8693 Tarantino movie is the kinda of movie you watch for the satire. He portraited all his fetishism in his movie so we can't says much about him besides the fact he was a pervert creep and a great director. This movie is pure comedy an alternative world in any possible means from the real events. The only period bruce lee was maybe an asshole was in his debuts, pretty much when he was a teenager, inexperienced in martial art, I believe Tarantino's "research" come from that. But in this scene he was an adult accomplished master, and even the supposed victim of his tyranny how was the real Cliff says that's bullshit😂. I don't even know how someone is able to watch a Tarantino's movie and say "facts🤓"
"No one can make us believe that Bruce Lee was anything like he was portrayed in that movie." Actually, his friends have been saying he was cocky all along. And, this quote could apply to any of Bruce's movies.
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I'm just a white guy from the UK who only knows about Bruce from books, magazine's,, watching interviews and documentaries. However, what keeps coming across is what a great person he was who thought a great deal about other people and who wanted to make us better people.
Ok...
Reading watching interviews and documentaries shows you're FOCUSED and not likely prone to misinformation. Example: One comment said, " Bruce never taught martial arts as an adult" I replied, watch a documentary or read up! Anyway as far as race, I'm Filipino and do Kali. It was the "white guys" that sat me down and went over the drills. The others were more into favoritism and Social Issues. I too had to read and watch interviews.
That is precisely why he is no longer with us. When you don't go along in Hollywood you're out. If they think you'll talk...... You do the math.
I'm pretty sure he cheated on his wife 🤔 If that's true i'm not saying he was the worst guy in history not at all but he definitely wasn't a great guy 🤷🏻♀️ Personally I think it's a good thing to bring up any faults a famous person has because it makes them look like what they are/were.. human and not some perfect inhuman god.
Yeah I agree with you. I got DVD 📀 here I does watch sometimes, he never tried to be top guy on the list. He was a good fighter though and not only teach but learn also from his students and friends. He was totally different from the other guys these days.
In my opinion, Quentin Tarantino is a great filmmaker, but Quentin is no martial artist, has never met or sparred with Bruce Lee, and should not comment on Bruce's abilities with no qualifications to judge.
And I agree that Quentin Tarantino is being rude by insulting people who disagree with Tarantino's portrayal.
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It makes me wonder if that was Mr. Tarantino's agenda? Perhaps he portrayed Bruce Lee like that to get a rise to promote his film. Anyone who's did even a little reading on the life of Bruce Lee knows. Still, honestly I didn't like his portrayal. It was disappointing to see my hero portrayed the way he was in that film. I was looking forward to his part in the film since I read that Bruce was a good friend of the actress and showed regret that he couldn't be there to protect her. In any case, Tarantino is a great film maker but this one isn't one I'd watch again.
@Piyesis71 that could be true. In this social mass media age, a strong argument can be made that is no longer any such thing as career-ending bad publicity. Or at least, that the standard for what qualifies as "career-ending bad publicity" has been raised into the clouds. 🤣🤣🤣
What’s makes a person qualified
I remember watching karate movies with my little brother on the weekends and discovering Bruce Lee. We didn’t know how famous he was. We didn’t know about his popularity. We just fell in love with them. We watched those karate movies thinking Bruce Lee was alive. We didn’t know he had died 10 years prior. When I discovered it, I cried like a baby. If you don’t think Bruce encountered bias and racism at that time, you’re nuts. To take his memory and his image, and humiliate him at the hands of, what could be, some of the people he suffered those bias from, and some of those struggles. This hurts as a fan.
They were not karate movies they were kung fu movies Jesus Christ kung fu kung fu kung fu not karate it was only one karate dude back then and it was Sonny Chiba.. 😂
@@KingCrazealmighty360 That’s right. I stand corrected - kung fu.
Well . Karate is originally from china Karate is still practiced in china It went from China to Okinawa Then Japan created there own Japanese karate Bruce lee trained in styes like Mantis Crane Hung gar Mantis and crane are 2 of the styles that karate was actually derived from Bruce lees favourite kung fu style was wing chun Wing chun is based on Mantis crane Snake They all have a common origin Calling them karate movies is still accurate once you no The Martial history 😊
@@nicholasgreen339 shut up
Not karate. Gung Fu (Kung Fu as westerners know it). He mainly studied Wing Chun as a young man and went on to create Jeet Kune Do (Way Of The Intercepting Fist).
It's weird tarantino never complained about the money he made using bruce lee's imagery for kill bill, the crazy 87 use masks identical to that of kato, he used the green hornet's soundtrack, uma thurman wore the yellow jumpsuit from game of death, the main characters use the 1 inch punch and on and on, also he never mentioned lee in all of these obvious references he simply stole his imagery to make money.
using inspiration from other icons isnt stealing, its showing respect to what they have given the world. dont think youll be willing to see it that way but go ahead and act like people are just stealing from each other. One inch punch was POPULARIZED by bruce.
He can be a fan of the movies without thinking Bruce is Kung-fu Jesus. I appreciate his take on it. Seems a bit more grounded.
@@FreedomDiaries1 i don't think you read my comment, tarantino used BRUCE LEE's imagery, his references are about bruce lee's works, not only kung fu's
If Brad Pitt refused to go along with the original script because of his friendship with Brandon Lee, Respect.
I think there is reason these actors are chosen for ROLES in movies who fits better in the picture story they telling us
Huh?? Brad Pitt DID go along with the "original script". Why do you think there is controversy at all with what Tarantino did? The fact that Brad Pitt was friends with Brandon Lee shows that he is actually worse than Tarantino!
@@DaRunningMan watch the video
@@ameddayr You should take your own advice and watch the video yourself because nothing in this video goes against what I said.
@@DaRunningMan the video states clearly that the scene was originally intended to play out differently. so the original script differed from what we got on screen.
Bruce Lee wasn't just an asshole... He's Inspired millions of people from beyond the grave. He wasn't just some arrogant karate star! He was a perfectionist and a pioneer! Think about the times he lived in. Couldn't have been easy being a Chinese immigrant turned mega movie superstar! Especially in Hollywood during the 60s. He was confident and capable! Plus he was very philosophical ! Bruce is and always will be a Legend
Kung Fu not karate waattaaa 👊☯️😜
I'm half Chinese on my dad's side. He used to tell me stories about how his school bus driver when he was a kid used to ridicule him for being Chinese.
@@jmk0512 quarter Chinese here mum's side rest Maori from Aotearoa New Zealand I was teased also at school
@simonpathomas4421 I'm sorry to hear that. I was in high school in the 1990s I never got teased for being Chinese at that time I was bullied and regularly physically assaulted over my physical disability my leg was amputated when I was eight due to cancer. It wasn't until Donald Trump ran for office that I began to receive hate for my Chinese heritage. I grew up thinking with the exception of a corrupt police force and others that the US was past that barbaric behavior. I was so wrong.
Quinton terentino and the making of One of his best movies ever "DJANGO" Let's him off the hook for any type of racism... Even though the movie is banned here in florida 😅...
Usually people who act arrogantly - nobody wants to work with them. He wouldn't have so many friends and people come to his funeral if he was arrogant like that.
Quentin Tarantino forgets that Bruce Lee's book teaches "Cheap Shots" and there is no Off-Limits in a real fights.
come on, man. we are still talking about bruce since his passing. that says everything.
Small minds talk about people. Good minds talk about events. Great minds talk about ideals and principles. That says everything!
Yup! It is Bruce who can truly say : I SHOOK UP THE WORLD!
Bruce Lee is iconic just the fact that he is the main reason why martial arts became so popular
Martial arts did not become popular because of Bruce Lee. Violence made martial arts popular.
@@stefanschleps8758 BRUCE LEE MADE IT POPULAR.
@@stefanschleps8758 martial arts core values was to to avoid violence and not cause it but to be prepared to defend against others who use violence against you. And yes he popularized I will say eastern martial arts as boxing and wrestling which is western unarmed martial arts . Judo, ninjutsu, karate and Kung fu which was lumped into one Chinese martial arts no matter what style. David Carradine spread it also in the TV show Kung Fu in 1972
So we can blame Bruce Lee for all the McDojo's out there?
@@lostboy8084if you haven't watched it, watch Dragon, a Bruce Lee Story. In it they state that Bruce Lee pitched the idea for the show and himself as the lead character.
It's even simpler than that; Tarantino's entire filmography is to shock people with the unexpected and outlandish; it's what made him famous; it's his signature. He just found out the hard way you don't disparage Bruce Lee.
I can understand the effort to show how badass the fictional Cliff Booth is… but the disrespect was too much
It's unreal how many people saw this movie and believed it as all being accurate and truthful.
Ironic, is it? 😂
Yeah you would think more people would realize hollywood is fantasy and inaccurate. I thought that was common knowledge now a days.
No one thought it was real, but it is disrespectful to a real person.
@@Wordsareprayers Quentin Tarantino lampoons several real life people in some of his movies, Adolf Hitler, for example in Inglorious Bastards, this movie is no different. It wasn't a documentary about Bruce Lee and you absolutely have to know that, as well as how this movie ends versus what really happened to the Sharon Tate and the Manson Family as well?
@@Wordsareprayers having a fight to a draw with a fictional character who is suppose to be a former Green beret that specialized in close quarters combat is disrespectful? yes he was based on some amalgam of real stuntmen but the character written was superior to the stuntmen he was inspired by. Tarantino's only mistake was how he responded, he should have just said it was imaginary fight with a fictional character and leave it at that.
Quentin said "Bruce didn't respect American stunt men and was always hitting them to make the fights look real". Half true. Here is the truth. Bruce had no problem with the American stunt men. People get tagged or hit during scenes. Not out of disrespect but to make the hits look real. They were not full force hits. It was the way they filmed in Hong Kong. I saw in interview with Cynthia Rothrock, and she spoke about the differences between American and Hong Kong stunt work. It really came down to different styles of stunt work. Nothing to do with not respecting American stunt men.
This.
I know it's a fictional movie, but the problem is that Tarantino is actually convinced that Bruce acted that way in real life, which is a false representation...
I was practicing Tae Kwon Do when Bruce was still alive. This version of him is a grotesque parody. Tarantino just lost whatever small amount of respect I had left for him as a man.
Naw, Lee was an arrogant person. And Gene Lebell picked him up and carried him around the studio while he was screaming "put me down". If Tarantino put that in the movie his fans would have all had a hemorrhage
Why on earth Tarantino has portrayed Bruce Lee in the disrespectful and humiliating way??It realy puzzles me!!
He is a hater. When you are a big star loved as much as bruce is. You have haters. It is jealousy. He feels Bruce Lee doesn't deserve his popularity or mystic.
He made a film of REVISIONIST HISTORY! Bruce Lee was never intended to be the real Bruce Lee. Inglorious Basterds did the same thing. Django Unchained did the same thing. The film never claimed to be real, it is revisionist history and that is why he hasn’t apologized and doubles down.
@@rodtack8420 Bruce Lee vs All would be a massacre. You don't even gotta go past the weight divisions do matter Bruce was a trainer and actor very influential person. Not a professional fighter move on
@@stefanbas6181not a professional fighter, duh. No kidding. He didn't state that he was.
Relax, Tarantino is known to take liberties with history. For comedy.
Mr Lee was a gift for all of us to marvel over ... respect is due... period. A true legend. The first avenger...
RDJ aka Iron Man wears Bruce Lee shirts in his movies and real life 😁
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I think Tarantino really screwed up on his representation of Bruce Lee. I'd wish he was smart enough to realize that and man enough to apologize for it.
I remember my ex army dad used to wake me up in the morning to join him for a run and exercise n I’d hate every second of it. After I watched the way of the dragon, my father didn’t have to tell me to wake up early or exercise it became a natural part of life. And this is true to many of the living martial arts legends today. He inspired so many of them like this from the childhood. His best contribution to the world is that he made physical exercise n martial arts look so cool that people would engage in them despite the discipline n labour it requires. Imagine the world of martial arts today without this phenomenon named Bruce Lee! 🎉🤘❤️❤️
From what Ive read on Bruce Lee and his character , I believe if he were alive today he would say to everyone, "Calm down, it's just a movie."
No he wouldn’t.
Agreed 👍 these kung fooy fan boys are so sad 😢 It's just a movie.... relax I train in martial arts and also coach kids and women in self defense. Martial arts is very useful but that doesn't mean the martial arts are some sacred religion that is absolved from anecdotes or charicature.
@@tonywright9906 You're right. He'd be more likely to want to fight QT.
You are correct!! But then you have the nut riders of Bruce Lee that think he was the “greatest” which isn’t and will never be true. He just brought martial arts to the forefront for the world to see
@ObjectiveEthics You're missing the whole point. It's not about the martial arts is about the portrayal of an actual person and that wrong portrayal can give a false narrative on how someone is in real life. Unfortunately for many people films are things that become the one way people learn things. WWII happens because Hitler put out mass propaganda that the Jewish people are the reason for all of Germany suffering and losing the war and spreads his ideals that only white men and women with blue eyes are the right race and proceeds to send Germany on a road of world domination and mass genocide of the Jewish people. Media is very important the way people are portrayed in media are very important. Understanding the effects of what is shown and what is not shown is very important.
I am far from a Bruce Lee fanboy but I have seen ple ty of interviews with him and read stuff he said. For what a huge figure he was he never comes off arrogant. He had a lot of ideas and was happy to talk about them when everybody, or a lot of people, wanted to listen. But that is a very natural reaction to suddenly being famous as a young person
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he was arrogant when younger
Easy to tell from his mannerisms in interviews how arrogant he was.
@@mariogutierrez4989 He had to be borderline arrogant to go from nothing to mega star.
Numerous close friends, including celebrities described Lee as a fierce and confident person, but also a humble and kind person who treated everyone fairly. I haven't heard anything that remotely resembles Tarantino's portrayal of him. I suppose there's no law in mocking anyone but certain things are just poor taste and character.
My friend who was a car-buff said that car he was thrown against would never crumple like it did, as the sheet-metal was very thick and heavy on the real cars back then. Those doors on the Tarantino car must have been made of tin-foil for the scene.
“ Look at my hand… That’s a Chinese hand. He’d kill me.!” Bruce Lee had nothing but respect for Muhammad Ali! He studied him intently… To the point of watching ALI’s ‘s boxing matches in a mirror so his left lead would look like a right hand forward stance (which Bruce used)
To be fair, Ali said (I saw the interview) "A boxer wouldn't stand a chance against a top martial artist." See my comment above, where heavyweight Joey Orbillo opines that Ali would lose to Lee in a real fight. I always wonder about that Robert Clouse book ... people on the set said Clouse disrespected the martial artists. Robert Wall said he went to Clouse's hotel room and slapped him. Look at Pat Burleson's interviews. At 230 lbs. he said Bruce threw him around with one arm. Look at just for play Joe Lewis grappled Ali to the ground. Or Ali's '[match' with the Japanese wrestler ... Ali's legs were so injured by kicks, he had to spend time in the hospital. If Ali couldn't avoid these 'sport' kicks, how could he avoid a real Bruce Lee kick? As Bruce said to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, "I could break your leg, and there's nothing you can do about it." (Kareem grabbed Bruce in a hug, "I was only joking, Bruce!"
For such a big thinker, this is a SUPER weird bias for Tarantino. With his lack of research, availability of opposing viewpoints, and refusal to apologize for his false assumptions i have to question his judgement outright altogether. Fantastic video. Great perspective.
THere are plenty of supposedly intelligent, smart and or educated people who are extremely biased and emotional thinkers on some subjects. You would be surprised how many are like that. They might be a genius in some subjects and areas but a total biased idiot and ignorant in other areas. It is good to never assume someone is more intelligent then they are. You will be disappointed
@@rodtack8420 at this point I've learned that being informed is the superpower, and its not the power of the processor.
That because QT has already been bit by Wke Hollywood....my guess is this was his way of Pandering to the puppet masters. An attack on a strong masculine Icon like Bruce Lee must have gained him some points.
You're making the assumption that this video is perfectly accurate. As if it's not possible that the creator of this video is biased in another direction as well. And also, wtf would anyone apologize for making a movie that people choose to watch. No one has to believe what's in the movie. It's fiction.
@@ClassicFilmEnthusiast oh yeah I definitely put some trust in the creator. I did a little bit of check verification while I was watching and what he was saying appeared to be true. I didn't get into verifying all the stuff cause that's ridiculous. But if something he developed in his narrative is contradicted in the future I'll be much more wary of carrying this narrative ahead. The essence of documentaries is trusting the creator to give objective data through a subjective lens to save us all the time of having to do the research ourselves. If I didn't trust documentarians because I couldn't verify 100% of the data it would be a waste of time to even watch.
I am old enough to have read the interview with Lee that contains the Mohammad Ali quote that Tarentino misrepresented. I think it was in Black Belt or one of those mags and Lee NEVER said he could cripple The Champ. In response to a question about Ali, what Lee he said was something like 'Ali's fist is as big as my head. I would have to go for his knees.' Now that's not the exact quotes, it's been 45 years or so, but that's pretty close. It was basically a joke. Lee had nothing but respect for The Champ. He would watch films of Ali's fights over and over to study his movements and technique, some of which he would incorporate into his own fighting style. What Tarentino did was utter disrespect and his response to 'suck my....' shows was a classless douche he really is. But, hey, he's done some great films. If not the Lee scene "Once Upon A Time..." would be a fave.
Bruce Lee never said that Muhammad Ali would kill him & I've watched his interviews in referenced to Ali bigger hands. He's never talked like this, & as for fighting in the streets he said that he believed in fighting dirty. This statement was by someone who used the book Making of Enter The Dragon by Robert Clouse who directed the movie. However, in IMDB it doesn't mention him writing the book Making of Enter The Dragon. Edit Overall your video is good & you've done amazing research.
technically in the younger generation, more people know bruce lee than quentin tarantino
Not really
@@geneeverett7855 yes, really. My 10 year old son know Bruce and loves his films but has no idea who Tarantini is!
@@geneeverett7855 oh you never heard of Bruce Lee? he's a famous martial artist :) now you heard of him
@@geneeverett7855 lol taratino is a director and thats it, bruce lee has numerous anime interpretations from fist of the north star onwards, numerous videogame characters in every fighting game including mortal kombat which is american, even kpop has a song about him. ufc fighters from around the globe know him, tarantino isn't known outisde hollywood
The whole world knows Bruce. His influence is everywhere. Games, movies, tv shows, books, comics, magazines, toys, you name it. And it goes far beyond things that are directly about Bruce. He changed the way so many things were done. If you've ever played a computer fight game you've probably played a character based on Bruce. If you've ever seen fight scenes in films you've probably seen moves and poses influenced by Bruce. He has become immortal. He will be remembered long after Tarantino is forgotten.
Jim Kelly once said that Bruce Lee was untouchable: he remains untouchable.
Gervonte Davis would destroy Bruce Lee in a street fight.
All of Bruce's students said he was untouchable, and all except one of them were golden gloves boxers, Judo champions, wrestlers, and Kenpo black belts when they met him.
Jim Kelly made that up. He only met Bruce on the set of ETD and never saw Bruce fight anyone, his claims dont fit the timelines of history. if you listen to how vague his comments are its telling...cant describe any details and cant name anyone.
@@seanwoods5943 MAYBE IN YOUR TINY MIND HE WOULD!
@@seanwoods5943 Gervonte Davis would hit the pavement in 0.5 seconds.
I am old enough and have followed the career of Bruce Lee that he struck me as a humble guy, the way typical martial artists are. I mean if you know you can take life with just your bare hands and you are a human being, it humbles you. I know because my karate teacher also taught the secret service and was a pastor and was very humble. I have never liked Quentin Tarantino movies, they are incoherent. On the positive side of things, I am excited to know that Shannon Lee exists and is out there. It would be an honor to meet a descendant of Bruce Lee.
The fact that so many people are upset by the scene just goes to show how loved Bruce Lee was, and is. if I were Quentin Tarantino, I would cut the movie and reshoot that scene giving Bruce Lee the respect and deference worthy of the man.
Tarantino would never reshoot that scene; it was never about entertainment or art or even making money. He's fulfilling a role as one of the media elites, and that is build the people up that they want (that don't look like Bruce) and tear down the people they don't want (that look like Bruce).
@@joeyp1927 you are both looking far too into this. He literally portrays himself in creepier and funnier ways. He does this with every race and creed. Stop getting offended just because its your icon in the firing range
Bruce Lee said that he picked up a lot of grappling technique from Gene LeBell. That sounds like a pretty friendly relationship one has with a colleague.
By the time they met, Bruce had trained with many grapplers, from his time in Seattle (19 or so) to his time in Hollywood. Many judo men were, for example impressed that Bruce even knew the names of the Japanese techniques. Of course, it's well known that much of Lee's training with his students was: "Come at me like a boxer, or a grappler, etc."
Quentin was trolling…. I think he knew it would piss people off, and wanted to.
Every move Bruce Lee makes on screen exudes power and beauty. He showcases the agility and strength of martial arts with finesse, making each performance memorable and unforgettable.
They didn't have to speed up the camera, they had to slow it lol.
Doing that about a dead guy who can't defend himself is a low move
@@shredd5705 I agree.
@@happycommando3754 I think I replied under the wrong commeny by accident lol. But yeah I think you knew what I mean
How many people knows Bruce Lee how many knows Tarantino.Bruce Lee is immortal and Universal
Then in that case no one should have to “defend” Bruce Lee’s name because they were “disrespected” by QTs MOVIE
immortal?
o you mean immortal in that his legend lives on
Actually watched his movies before ever seeing a Bruce Lee movie...🤔 Is genX crying again over someone wrecking childhoods, as a millennial I'll just say, get over it champ.
Let’s not forget that Tarantino loves writing the n-word into his movies and often gives himself a reason to say it. Dude’s got some latent racist tendencies, but they’re the kind generally overlooked as reserved for “people from a certain era.” Thing is, though: he isn’t. I think dude’s just got some grievances he gets to air out because he makes interesting movies. He gets a pass, but should he really?
I think this scene is messed up because it tarnishes the image of a dead man, a legend that impacted the world of martial arts, helped gave birth to MMA and combat sport as we know it and had a huge influence on the movie industry as well. But Tarantino is definitely not a racist. He used the n-word in Pulp Fiction when he talked to Jules Winnfield’s friend Jimmie Dimmick, a caricature of a character. Then in Django which quiet literally takes place during black slavery. It is a bit silly to try to use that to label Tarantino as a “racist”. He has been casting black actors since the beginning of his career and maintains close friendships with all his cast members. Lastly, I find it a tad self-entitled to think we choose to give people a “pass” or not. If you enjoy a certain director, watch his work. If not, don’t. This whole cancel culture mind set is toxic, is it not? Not everything is racist just because we don’t like someone’s art.
I think you all don't get to choose how an artist creates. Bruce Lee was treated like every other person would . Quentin Tarantino makes great films that don't become the fake polished junk that consistently gets hustled
@@lightup6751you assume racism begins and ends with using the word in public (which, by the way, Tarantino has until he got shut down). You also assume that “liking” black people means you can’t be racist. Lots of slave owners “liked” their slaves. Lots of folk during Jim Crow “liked” black folk as long as they didn’t have to live/eat/go to school/share equality with them. And there are tons of examples of people that “liked” the black parent of their child, while hating their mixed-race offspring. So, yes, you’re giving him a pass, probably because it’s easiest for you and lets you feel comfortable consuming his work.
@@stefanbas6181DW Griffiths was considered one of the great pioneers of film for his seminal Birth of a Nation. “Art” is inherently subjective and in no way sacred.
oh please. I hate Tarantino, but to play the race card is laughable. Tarantino is an idiot, but he's not "racist" lmao.
Some people still don't understand how hard this man punch .
If Chuck Norris says Bruce Lee was the real deal, that’s good enough for me. Quinton Tarantino doesn’t like this , well he can do what he suggested others do.
5:04 Gene Lebell did an interview after that movie came out, trying to shed some light on the truth. Gene said that he unexpectedly put Bruce into a firemans carry or something like that, just playing around, but afterwards, Gene and Bruce ended up training together to work on Bruce's grappling skills because Gene knew Bruce was lacking in that. So, according to Gene LeBell, that scene was very loosely based on the real, playful encounter between Gene and Bruce.
that is true I also herd it was over a comment bruce said about someone that gene was not happy about
@@fefferofhossen I think Gene said Bruce was talking trash, but it's been a while since I saw that interview.
There have been friends of Gene who said he told a lot of untrue stories. For example, Gene said that "Bruce's school in Chinatown had tatami mats and smelled of incense." The real students there said there were no such mats or incense. Also, that Gene and Bruce didn't meet until many episodes after the first Green Hornet, and by that timeline, Gene couldn't have been called in to "teach the new kid some manners." Anyway, please see my comment above on Hayward Nishioka. He was younger than Bruce, and therefore much younger than LaBell ... likely Nishioka was better than Gene in sparring. Nishioka couldn't touch Bruce. I doubt if LaBell could touch Bruce, either. Gene said in Matt Polly email: Bruce was the best of his era. @@JubeiKibagamiFez
@@jakemay637 I know that Gene embellished his stories, but he said he caught Bruce by surprise, but then he ended up teaching Bruce grappling and ground fighting. I don't think the encounter was hostile in any way.... But, to be truthful, everything Bruce knew he learned from someone else and then refined all that he knew to develop Jeet Kune Do. I don't think there was any animosity between Bruce and Gene at all.
As loose as size 50 pants on a size 10 waist.
To anyone who defends the portrayal of Bruce Lee. Imagine this would be Muhammed Ali. Also in a fictional setting but historically majorly accurate era. In a context that is realistic for the time period. And have Tarantino make a ridiculous caricature out of him. Let’s see how the world would react then. Then you get the point.
Muhammad Ali was heavyweight champion of the world Bruce was a trainer/actor who's influence goes without speaking Both said they were the best in the world only one has proven it
@@stefanbas6181Well said. The same can be said of Jackie Chan, where Benny Urquidez claimed that Chan could be a world champion fighter if he trained. That's an honor in itself but of course Jackie is known for films and enjoys making movies. Lets be real, the movie industry was making people rich and famous--at least more than kickboxing at the time.
@@stefanbas6181yeah. So many champions of Lee's era stating that he could or did beat them means nothing. Duh.
@@thatgayqueen2826 "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face" I believe that was a quote by Iron Mike Tyson - I am a Bruce lee fan as well, but he was not a professional fighter in no way at all. Be consistent in your logic, QT didn't do jack to his legacy, if you think BL was a super human and could best ALL the professional fighter's (in the world) then you are worse off than what QT is being accused of. You're saying that the achievement of winning titles through public trials by COMBAT means less than a hypothetical fantasy??? What QT did was no different than what BL did, which was present fiction on film.
@@thisguy3500 - Actually world champions Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, Mike Stone trained with Bruce and won every karate championship in the United States in their time. All of them said pound for pound Bruce was the fastest and best they had ever seen. Chuck has on occasion changed his statement but that was his ego talking.
Can't imagine generations of youths wanting to sculpt their mind and body to be like quentin 😂 Long live Bruce's legacy ❤
All I have to say regarding Quentin Tarantino's ridiculous, untrue and very disrespectful portrayal of Bruce Lee in his film "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" is that people will never forget Bruce Lee, even after the best of Quentin Tarantino's films are long forgotten. Although Quentin Tarantino has his own unique and remarkable style of filmmaking (and has marked Cinematic History in his own right), he would never have been able to make Kill Bill 1+2 without the strong influence of Hong Kong and Japanese Cinema to Western audiences, of which Bruce Lee was a major part. So, instead of making a mockery of a martial genius icon like Bruce Lee, perhaps Tarantino should be making a "hommage" to him. Although a Filmmaker should have the right to freely express himself within his work, Shannon Lee is absolutely right in defending Bruce's image, not only as his daughter, but also on behalf of the millions of Bruce Lee fans and martial artists throughout the World. Mr. Tarantino, I certainly hope that your next film is better, and definitely more respectful of other Cinematic icons that are eternal, timeless, and much bigger than yourself.....RESPECT!
Imagine how good Once Upon A Time In Hollywood would have been if he portrayed Bruce the way he really was, speaking respectfully of Muhammad Ali and Joe Lewis, giving his philosophical insight into the martial arts, and when challenged on a point by Cliff, then beating him easily, and Cliff asking him to teach him? Cut to a montage scene of Bruce training Cliff. The final fight scene could have been Cliff going full Bruce Lee on the Manson Gang!
Fan boys dream....maybe all the above and he loses to Cliff since Bruce wasnt a proven fighter?
Notice they only barely mention what Bruce said about Ali and focus on the character not beating cliff.. Even if the Bruce character had been respectful and not dominated in the fight they would claim it wasnt respectful of Bruce
I guess you don’t understand that this fictional film takes place in an alternate universe.
Good thing you don't make movies
@@cuzz63i mean.. he didn't do tournaments. The guy was fit though and knew a lot. Also has some grit for pushing into Western society after 1940 during that time period. Western society was not nice, forgiving, or welcoming. Bruce Lee would have to stand his own and was challenged plenty paving his way. Would he win? Knowledge, fitness, and having grit.. I wouldn't fight him.
I'd like to thank Bruce Lee and Dan Inosanto. Dan helped me get into Filipino Martial Arts and Bruce helped me turn into a piece of flexible metal.
Attacking a dead man reputation is just wrong.
Thank you for the video.
I've never taken anything Tarantino has done seriously including the scene in question. To me it's just part of the fairytale that he's weaving and not to be taken literally since none of it is claimed to be historical or biographical. Bruce is, was and always will be a legend no matter how anyone chooses to portray him.
This.
This is exactly how I felt when I saw this part of the movie….its a movie!!!! Right? lol.
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The problem here is that Tarantino is going around claiming in interviews that it is a portrayal of the “real” Bruce Lee confirmed by his research of the man.
@@mathurinkerbouchard8931 It's Tarantino though, there's nothing about him I take seriously. He's kind of a goofball.
Yeah. I didn't really care for that scene, nor for its portrayal of Bruce Lee.
Oh wow, I’ve never knew. Thank you for sharing this. I agree, that fight scene does come across as disrespectful to the late Bruce Lee.
Great video! There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. Bruce Lee was very confident and for good reason - he was the BEST! The way I see it, in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Cliff Booth is remembering something that DIDN'T really happen. In the beginning of the scene, there's a bunch of people watching the fight. At the end of that scene everyone is gone, meaning there aren't any witnesses to the fight. Cliff is an unreliable narrator and he is looking back on a memory that didn't happen. The reality is that Cliff Booth is not a good guy even though we are rooting for him.
Tarantino says "It's just the fairytale story." So in Tarantino's fairytale, the most famous Asian Martial Artist and Movie Star of all time gets treated like a joke, whereas the white stunt guy that killed his wife helps saves the day. Got it...
Yes, why not?
There should be a QT film on John Wilkes Booth where he saves the day. @@ilfirinms
i love how the only people who made it about race are those overly offended by bruce lees portrayal. also conveniently forgetting all the white people Tarantino has mocked including himself.
**Bruce Lee** Is Not Here To Defend Himself Concerning This Negativity. But, One Thing Is Sure: **Bruce Lee** Is **Legendary** And A **Trailblazer** If He Were Alive Today, There Would Be **Silence**. ** No**Controversy**
EXACTLY
your thumbnail got me here. Great tactic :)
Anyone thinking that he was deliberately disrespectful towards Bruce in this film, is and are widely missing the entire premise of this movie and should keep their teeth together when talking about it. Because it also shows their lack of discernment towards film in general. A hint. The entire movie is basically "opposite day" and "if" it went this way. People are taking out of context what is actually going on in this movie. Proving that Tarintino is an actual director and story telling genius in all actuality. Which is why he says "go sick a dick" because you arent getting it. Again. Understand the movie as a whole instead of picking things apart that y'all dont understand. You're missing the point.
Great video! Thanks for making this. Tarantino claims to be such a Hollywood historian yet was a million miles off target with this scene. I'm sure if asked he'll say he's not racist but he certainly has some bias against Bruce Lee. He joins all the people who treated Bruce Lee, an American, like an "uppity" immigrant - even now in death.
agreed. and on your point of "he'll say he's not racist" he sure loves using the n word,but he calls that art lol
not a big deal!!! clearly youre not black to even begin to understand the pain associated with that word.@@elseptimo77
+ He always used Bruce Lee references in his movies (outfits & such).
'kill Bill'...
Bro it’s not a documentary. It’s a fictional movie.
This has really profoundly changed my view on Tarantino, not only as a person but also as an artist. Most people I’m sure are aware that the most used adjective when referring to him as a film director, as a praise is always that what sets him apart is his immense knowledge and love of films. Now what most people don’t know is that a lot of what makes his films great, meaning popular and also critically acclaimed, is that he’s used heavily influenced (which is a nice way of saying he has copied the work of giants and pioneers from the European and Asian films industry) by other directors that truly broke molds and introduced new styles, such as French new wave, Italian Neo-realism, as well as their counterparts from Japan and Hong-Kong. Now I truly love his films, and til now, even though I’d been shown these peculiarities about his work, I was the first to defend him, but this is not the first hand account I’ve heard lately of people who’ve met this arrogant and self-centered and grandiose side of him, and coupled with the facts I’d been shown before, does throw and changes my perspective when it comes to his work. Life has a funny and transcendental way of humbling people who act like so, and in his case I can’t help but to remember him at the Oscar’s, when this particular film was nominated, and an Asian film (South Korea’s brilliant “Parasite”)pretty much beat him on almost every single category, and though not explicitly, or even vocally, but I remember the TV cameras would occasionally zoom in on him and I’d get this pissy and petulant vibe every time that’d be so. Now this last thing I can’t be sure of, but pretty much everything else I’ve gone over is factual, so you come to your own conclusion.
Take your meds 😂
Good point!
Interesting watching this scene to note that Tarantino also threw the extras off set because he disagreed with their political views.
Quinton terentino and the making of One of his best movies ever "DJANGO" Let's him off the hook for any type of racism... Even though the movie is banned here in florida 😅...
He still could be racist towards Asians. @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
I've always wondered why Tarantino never portrayed Chuck Norris in Once Upon A Time IN Hollywood, because like Bruce, Norris also worked with Sharon Tate in The Wrecking Crew.
Sometimes it's very hard for "famous" people to step down when they feel they might be WRONG. Nuff said.
I believe tarantino wants to rewrite history in such a way that Bruce Lee is remembered as cartoon charecter and later on re-invented as white person out of spite , I read four pages of tarantinos outbiography and needed a shower all that ego stroking self engrandizing shows the lack charecter in him .
In a biography, written by a friend of Bruce Lee; he briefly described what Bruce's friendship meant. He was very loyal. If you were sick, he would visit, until you were back on your feet. if you were down on the dumps he was there to cheer you up That always stuck with me.
I've always gotten this feeling that Tarantino was an asshat, good movies, but a horrible person. Yep, pretty much!
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Yeah. Someone can either say they will do better or they'll say that everyone else is just being a whiner. Obviously he's free to do either, but I think less of him for choosing to just be disrespectful. And it kind of shows he was being disrespectful all along to Bruce Lee.
he literally mocks himself just as hard in movies. He basically seems to show the worst of most people in media and mocks anyone of any race and gender. But suddenly people are upset now?
@@ryanwood6754 no people are not "suddenly upset now". Maybe the social media messages of people disliking Tarantino's creative choices never got into your algorithm feed before lol
@@ryanwood6754 also, so what if he mocks himself in his movies? He also plays tough guy roles in his movies too.
If he was a director in Bruce Lee's time, he would've been begging Bruce Lee to do a movie
Doubt. Chopsocky films were popular and Tarantino doesn't ride the waves of mediocrity. Kill Bill for example...
Again the “Bruce Lee” in his FICTIONAL film where a washed up actor and a stunt man who is also an amalgam of multiple people takes out the Manson family, you want to call for “respect” for “Bruce?” The “Bruce” in QTs film was not the real Bruce Lee. What is so hard to understand about that? Should the lady whose car that the FAKE stuntman Brad Pitt put Bruce into be upset that QT didn’t portray her with the proper respect? Were there any female Kiwi stunt wranglers in the 60s in Hollywood? Or maybe it was a FICTIONAL THING?? We all love Bruce Lee. I was a kid when he passed. I was also a karate student at the YMCA and a Saturday double feature “Chop Socky” movie kid. If I thought for one second that QT meant ill to Mr. Lee I would be with you and his family, but you are all wrong. A film full of fakes and you expect Bruce Lee’s part to be real? I know you won’t read this and will continue to feel the way you do so I am sorry.
I think i that the Bruce Lee character in Tarantino”s movie esembles Tarantino himself rather than Bruce Leer
Well lets not forget that Tarantino's job, as a writer and director, is to tell lies and good story tellers tells good lies and with in the context of the story what has happen as to truth does not matter. After all he did kill Hitler. That said disrespect is just another paint brush in the telling of the story in the payoff of the feel good ending and Tarantino having to explain the scene is like a comedian having to explain a joke. Quentin's payoff is the creation of an emotional state as to Cliff being a badass on the same level as Bruce Lee, who did in fact did not loss the fight, and is just an extension of the "what if" of who would win Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali, Batman or Superman. When we get to the conclusion of the story there is no question as to what is going to happen and by changing the outcome of Helter-skelter Tarantino once again changed history in the world of what if. The fact that some got upset only sells the ending as far as the emotional costs goes. When it comes to this movie I the the better question is who had the better part. DiCaprio or Pit?
My personal opinion is that quentin is a deeply disturbed individual. He has made some good movies, but he has made some bad decisions while making his movies as well. Decisions that have detracted from the final product more than once. The thing is he is a deeply *disturbed* individual and if you think he will ever apologize for hurting anyone's feelings ,,,, you will be waiting for a long fruitless season, because it will never happen. Not because I agree with him, but because I know a broken man when I see one. And tarantino is as broken as they come. Good video BTW.
He's just mimicking the current Hollywood trend.... double down and blame the fans. Disney has been doing it for years now.
Quentin is good at making the bad and low down people look cool. The good and kind he spits on them with artistic strokes to make them look like uninteresting geeks. He strips out the very essence of love and respect from life and replaces it with degradation humiliation and perversion but does it in a way which one thinks that to dislike it would be close minded. It’s all part of the program to dumb us up and keep us asleep.
Idolizing is akin to sleeping. Look at how many do this today with celebrity politicians world wide. There are many incredible people who's achievements will be forgotten in time by the masses, yet I cannot think of one great achievement from Bruce Lee. His ego was on full display in the Ip Man films and that's coming from Chinese directors. He fit in well with Hollywood as someone that was arrogant--not at all a bad person but full of himself. As someone else pointed out Muhammad Ali was similarly a big talker but he at least proved himself, until he got put in his place by Frazier anyway.
@@thisguy3500you are down right ignorant. The Ip Man films were not based on Bruce Lee and you are confusing arrogance with seriousness, humbleness and honor.
@@thisguy3500there is plenty of proof where Bruce had proved himself.
@@melonmusk3976Looks like you failed to watch the entire Ip Man series then.
Well said!
Bruce Lee was a great guy and he is the legend inspired me to live happily ever...
This video reminded me to check out Warrior season 3 lol. Thanks for that!
Ty ty ty. I was hoping Joe Rogan was gonna set him straight or let him know he didn't like that. But when he was a guest he stayed silent. Didn't even try to disagree with him. Made me look at him different. Ty again for this
Rogan was clearly annoyed by it. But he can't make a guest this big look bad
Quentin insulted everyone who enjoys Bruce's work. I haven't seen the movie. I've seen every other Tarantino film.
Yeah, hearing about that scene soured my need to watch that movie. I've seen every other film too.
let's be honest Quentins a very overrated director anyway the guy hasn't made a decent movie since Jackie brown
@@err4071 I enjoy his work...for the most part. Sometimes his attempts to go over the top turn out cheesy like the final scenes of Django Unchained. However telling us all to suck a dick has lost him any respect I ever had for him
@@err4071 You can.jsut say tings don't have any relevance because you don't wanna make a legitimate argument
@@stefanbas6181 A legitimate argument about what, Tarantino being a very overrated director or Tarantino's depiction of Bruce Lee etc etc.
I have taken an issue with this video. Now adays, if someone doest like something, they turn it into a huge controversy. I don't think Tarantino should apologize and I agree with his statement that, essentially, if you didn't like his movie don't watch it. He doe not need to be "held accountable" for his art or the story he tells about anyone living or dead. It's a Movie. Cinderella Man is a 2005 movie staring Russell Crowe and based on actual events, in which Max Baer is shown as the main villain. The man is shown as a rude, ruthless, cheating, womanizing, drunk. That shows not only no remorse for the men he killed in the boxing ring but is proud of it. When in actuality Baer was nothing at all like this. His Son, Max Baer jr. Said he hated the film for the way his father was shown and felt insulted by it. He said his father was a loving man, deeply devoted to his wife and yes he was a drinker but that had a lot to do with the guilt he felt over the accidental killing of the other boxers in the ring. His son said his father was haunted by those deaths. This all being fact why is noone screaming at Ron Howard over this clear tarnishing of a historical figure? I feel this video just feeds into the cancel culture of today and thats really sad. The hatemongering thats so popular now adays should be given a thumbs down. Like im giving this video.
Up to you 🙂
People are idiots. Tarantino's movies don't take place in the real world. They're in a more, ultra-violent universe. The Manson murders didn't go down the way they're depicted in movie either.
So what's your point? This has nothing to do with Tarantino's comments 😐
@@GoldenbellTraining He's tired of explaining it to people. So, he can be a bit of a dick when talking about it.
Tarantino being a complete and utter duck ;-)
I never saw the movie because I heard it's depiction of Bruce Lee was bad, then I looked up the scene and immediately checked out when the actor portraying Bruce had a physique nothing like him, moved nothing like him, and ultimately didn't even look like him. Going back in time I never enjoyed Kill Bill, I thought it was cool that they used the jumpsuit from Game of Death but still something about it really turned me off. Now I realise it was actually Quentin trying to associate that iconic jump suit with a different movie for a different generation. To perhaps tarnish or even diminish the spotlight on Bruce that it was he who wore it first (and better). Now after watching this video that might actually be true, and it's not a secret that Quentin is obsessed with race, so that might come into play also. The thing that makes this worse is that people who have never seen Bruce Lee in footage or any of his movies might see Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and form an opinion on him based on that, which is terrible. I remember the backlash Jason Scott Lee received for Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, but in my opinion he did fantastic, his tribute to Bruce's intensity and graceful movement is an achievement all by itself. Nobody else has come close since. Especially not the actor in this scene in mention. I'm glad people clapped back, it shows that his legacy is still as important now as it ever was, thanks for the video.
Tarentino made a fool out of himself! Bruce Lee is a Legend and his actions speaks for itself. Bruce's mind is just as brilliant as his physical accomplishments.💥💪....... 😎
well said, subscribed.
Quentin Tarantino showed how jealousy, in the hands of a millionaire filmmaker, can bend the truth anyway he pleases. But at the end of the day, Bruce Lee will always be a legend and will be remembered as such, long after Tarantino has kicked the bucket.
Jim Brown was supposed to be the actor Cliff fought then he switched it to Bruce Lee. So he wanted to have one of the icons beat up. He knows that if he had used an icon like John Wayne he would have had a problem. If you pay attention to the movie he slid in a lot. He definitely has a problem.
God, it is not so complex, the reason Quent made this scene was to emphasize how fake Hollywood is. Bruce, Arnold, Van Dam, Segal and even Chan are actors. That is all, they are actors, not MMA champions. Their martial prowess is hyped in their movies for entertainment value, they stand somewhere in between WWE and MMA, and it is fun to watch the fake to be revealed in this scene.
What does any of this have to do with Tarantino's comments? 🤔
Bruce taught me most of my moves as a kid who had to learn to fight back RIP!
Bruce Lee worked his @ss of to get to the height he achieved both as a martial artist and a film maker/movie star. For someone to come along and totally trash his character, his brilliance is to not appreciate the impact he made.
Admittedly, I was one of the few that said it was a dream sequence, because that's what it had appeared to be. In context of his interview with Joe Rogan and the book though, it seems intentional to create some controversey to get people to buy into what essentially was hear-say. The fight isn't what I thought silly though, it was the dialogue prior to it. Respect for bringing clarity to this debate. It's pretty conclusive that Tarantino was looking to knock him down a peg for who knows what reason. Jealousy? Envy? Hate for his ongoing celebrated status? Or to make money? Only he knows the truth.
A high school friend of mine once said how he dislike Tarantino so much that I ended up agreeing with him.
It's been mentioned more than once that Bruce struggled pulling his punches and kicks during enter the dragon because he was so used to full contact work with the Chinese stuntmen he had worked with in his earlier movies
To this day stunt performers will tell the hero actor to actually hit them when they're rolling cameras. They are tough folks and they want it to look good. They don't make a big deal out of it, it's why they get up in the morning.
And that is the thing right there. It would make sense that in the early beginnings of Bruce working with American stuntmen that they would be hit. And with him being so fast...someone was going to be hit. That in no way means/equates to Bruce Lee having no respect for them. It's still the same way today that in China and it's safe to say in general in Asian martial arts films that they are done full contact. Jackie Chan's style of film fighting is similar, but to give the appearance of full contact and it can be difficult for Western stuntmen to adapt to that kind of fighting.
It can be said that at least in his Chinese movies, Bruce was very good to his stuntmen. He insisted on having meals with them, and that he not be given special treatment. When he was in Hollywood, Stirling Silliphant hired him as fight coordinator for one of his films in the South (I think Tennessee)... and Bruce "proved" himself to the "two, tough big Caucasian cats" (Silliphant) "after Bruce kicked them into the pool, they came up Christians, and from that time on, they would've killed for him." @@ghost7524
Bruce was so fast and powerful that when he had to pull his punches it sometimes caused him injuries.
bruce lee seemed to embody the mental calmness that comes along with martial arts when you commit to it and do it right. he never came off as a narcissist.
I'm a fan, for sure. But Bruce had a temper and said so on cam, lol. Doesn't forgive QT's poor betrayal of a legend!
@@jamesdspaderf2883Tf you talking bout? His quote to be water was live and he said its difficult to express his true self.
Joe Lewis talked about how Bruce would take ideas and techniques and not give credit...that could be considered a level of narcissism. Not saying that he was a narcissist but its on the spectrum.
@@cuzz63 Dude you are lost
Bruce Lee was a man not a flawless comic book character
Tarantino may be a genius filmmaker, but without a single match under his belt, he misses the genius fighter that was Bruce, and his abilities *as well as* his humility.
You did a great job releasing that video. Thank you!
Super insightful. I love the addition to perspectives and comedy. I thought it was going to be another remastered video but… I see you had more in store for us. Awesome
Great research and information thanks
Bruce Lee in his real comment about Ali is correct. If he can use his feet, Ali might be screwed (and I think that would be the case since Ali had no idea on how to deal with kicks, even to his legs - source: watch the fight in Japan with Inoki - who had sloppy kicks on the ground.) Where Ali's legs were messed up from the sloppy kicks, let alone kicks and side kicks to the knee by Bruce Lee... But his comment about fist size and size in general is that: limit his tools with rules in the boxing ring and he's likely not going to do well against Ali based on size/weight alone... Nothing wrong with Bruce's assessment of the situation. It's actually logical and accurate.
Hey buddy, I love your channel. Thanks for putting this out there. I stand by Shannon 100% on this. He was extremely disrespectful in any way and he totally knocked. Bruce purposely for his own strange reasons. Whatever they are I don't know and why anyone would go out of their way to do that is beyond me. But I love Shannon's response to it. It's just like could you either apologize or just stop talking about it and he just can't seem to understand that . I got to hang out with Jim Kelly when he was still alive and I asked him what was Bruce really like fighting wise and Jim Kelly told me this when we did enter the dragon he was phenomenal but when I was just training walking with him learning his philosophy and watching him fight and do different techniques he was like he was untouchable. He was that good. He was the most amazing martial artist and fighter I had ever seen in my life. Fred Williamson said the same thing and these were people that actually trained and knew Bruce. And I know some people are going to be like. Are you saying he's super human nobody's super human but the thing about it is this. Bruce worked very hard. He gave time to martial arts and fighting day in day out when most people are not that disciplined to do that. Bruce was working hard. Three 2:00 in the morning training training training improving, improving, improving improving. That's really the secret. He constantly kept improving like somebody that's really determined to get a PhD and they study all night and study all day. That was Bruce and a lot of people don't have discipline like that so and I can relate. I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis a year to half ago. I'm still recovering from chemotherapy from a special experiment. They wanted to try on me to improve some things and I'm a martial artist but due to this whole condition and it really messing with my body I have to do things differently. I'm in a lot of pain, but I'm still up training every day 6 to 7 days a week without fail and I'm just determined very much like Bruce Lee just would have been determined no matter his circumstances or situations. And I think that that's what Quentin Tarantino has to understand about people like Bruce or people like myself. Anyway, keep doing what you do. I love the channel and I hope to have a conversation with you one day. You're awesome!
Why are people so upset about a film full of false things, not only the Bruce Lee bit? QT has done this for years. I was a kid in the 70s and all the kids in my neighborhood loved Bruce Lee and martial arts. I saw the film and I NEVER got offended. You know why? Because it was chock full of revisionist ideas. The Manson family gets killed by a washed up Hollywood actor for Pete’s sake. So he can do that, but his little fake Bruce Lee bit has to show fake Bruce Lee in a good light? Like I said, I am a Bruce Lee fan and I was not offended, because I knew the whole thing was revisionist history.
Why did you have to make it about yourself?
What are your thoughts on Shannon making money using her dead father in a CGI commercial selling alcohol??
@@MissGigglesdotcomIt's HER right because it was HER dad! And I'm pretty sure they didn't disrespect Bruce in the commercial!
@@carldzoga1348 lol Bruce didn't drink alcohol