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Game of Thrones is one of the most popular TV dramas of all time, and fans were pumped to see what the creators had in store for its final season. However after a few episodes, GoT fans started to have some questions about the way D.B. Weiss and David Benioff were wrapping up their favorite show. Like what’s up with Daenerys becoming pure evil so quickly? Why isn’t anyone talking about Jon being the rightful heir to the throne? Was that really the end of the Night King? Are scorpions more powerful, or are dragons?
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HBO: "You can have more time" D&D: "She's my Queen" HBO: "WHAT???" D&D: "I don't want it"
HBO: "You can have more time" D&D: "Shes mah kween" HBO: "WHAT???" D&D: "I don wunt it"
The queen that D&D are referring to is Kathleen Kennedy. They want to drop GoT so that they can go further ruin the Star Wars franchise with her.
@@eddardstark6554 she certainly pulled a daenarys on star wars.
HBO didn't want to renue contacts that's why it was rushed
SONIC VASH no HBO was ready to give them SEASONS, But they declined. Presumably to go do Star Wars
"A dragon is no match for a bunch of scorpions"... "A bunch of scorpions are no match for a dragon". Season 8 in a nutshell.
but they forgot 😂
Even worse is that 2 dragons and Dany riding on one forgot they even existed and didn't see them while flying a mile overhead
@@liveactionlink8736 Yep they should have seen the giant fleet of black ships on the water long before they were even close to being in range.
there's bad writing, and then there's d&d. good luck star wars
@@alveolate Yeah, there's bad rushed writing lol
Watching Game of Thrones is like eating the best tub of ice cream you’ve ever had in your entire life… only to discover the dead rat at the bottom of the tub.
good comment!
I don't know... somehow, I feel like the dead rat would be more filling. 😉
@@joshuahermanson341 Then taking another bite after finding the rat, because you immediately forgot it was there.
@@dawk203 No, the second bite of the rat is not wanting to believe there is really a rat there. I remember just sitting there after the credits rolled thinking, "wait, is this finale a prank from HBO and they are going to reveal the real season finale soon? It makes sense that a show this big would have the budget to do a prank finale ending." I guess it was just my brain trying to find a reason for the disaster I just watched.
epic and accurate comparison
"50% of fans were disappointed by series finale" And the other half just kinda forgot about it
After all it is a very forgettable season
"The fans just kinda forgot that Game Of Thrones existed"
@@MariOmor1 I envy them.
The shows fever kind of died after that
i dont even get it form where they got that 50% lol where they to afraid to just say 90% of ppl?
“Why does he do that?” “Unclear” Sums up the whole season.
I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about this
Not true. I also asked, "Why does she do that?"
@array s Bran's motivations are so secret, he doesn't even know them.
was this any different in season 5-7? like Arya healing suddenly?
👏👏👏👏👏👏
"Who has a better story than Bran?" "Arguably any character."
Even see davos has better story than Bran
I thought Bran was an excellent choice.
@@pepijn2367 GRRM's Bran won't be a cadaver, I'm fairly certain
Literally the 1 story arc throughout the show i hated watching
Vincent Wang Except Sansa. Her story is even more boring.
I love how "Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet and Euron's forces, they certainly haven't forgotten about her" is a direct quote from the creators
And the characters around dany told her multiple times not to forever about the iron fleet but she still forgets and doesn’t see them despite being hundreds of feet in the air🤓
Literally all the rules and character building/world building they created for the whole series was broken in the last season. Tyrion is wise yet tells everyone to hide in the crypts against an enemy who can raise the dead. Varys is a master of whispers, a cunning spy/master manipulator puppet master who controls everyone from the shadows without them even knowing yet his betrayal plot is instantly foiled because he tells everyone about it openly. Dany always chooses kindness of cruelty and finds this to be a winning strategy that rallies people to her side only to flip out and set everyone on fire. Jamie realizes he has been manipulated by his siter for years and redeems himself, proving he doesn't need to be evil and can fight for good and can even love another woman (Brienne) just goes back to being Cersei's evil plaything. Bran who we are told for years cannot hold any titles of nobility because he has godlike powers and thus exists on a higher plane than man is named king.
😢
@@BookshelfBattleblog ikr.... everyone kept saying that Dany went mad because she lost her dragons and her best friends and what not. Maybe everyone forgot that this is the same woman who lost her husband and her child, as well as her fertility in the very first season, and she still punished only the one woman responsible, not the entire khalasar that was rescued. She keeps losing her best friends and loyal people from her Khalasar for many years now, so she just lost her mind suddenly the moment she set foot in Westeros? The dragons have so much precision that they ate specific people who sought to harm her many times in close spaces, but she couldn't burn Cersei without torching the whole King's Landing? Maybe that ending could have worked if only they had fleshed it out, but they forgot that dragons or armies are not what made Dany special, she was a dragon herself, she had something majestic, intellingent, graceful and dangerous about her, which is why people followed her willingly. There's a difference between being ruthless when necessary and being insecure and paranoid to the point of cruelty.
@@asthajindal5275 There might have been a point that we all hope for the one true leader that will solve all our problems and be kind but if we ever got that person we'd walk all over them. It was implied Tyrion, Varys all the council were doing deals and plotting behind Dany's back. If they had given it more time and flushed it out for another season or two, I could see her on a downward slope from greatness to saying screw it, I can't trust anyone so everyone is dragon lunch because that's the only way to get people to obey then that might have worked, but they rushed it too soon.
nearly 4 years later... it still hurts
Same.
Doesn't it?
It was so bad 😂
Wait this is already 4 years old? Dang corona really killed me sense of time
it is just so painful to be reminded on this
"So how do they survive?" "By being off screen for a little bit." Lol... So accurate.
Literally one of my least favorite parts of the season. Their assumption that all their viewers are morons just proves how delusional they are. Makes you feel like everyone is dying, the doth and un armies, the main characters, all dying to masses of zombies that sometimes move super fast, sometimes can barely walk, then next scene everyone is fine and a few episodes later it's as if 90% of Winterfell survived the Winter.
I give this season a Bruh
@@KDreezy plot armors
@@KDreezy exactly
I mean... Ant-Man was on-screen when he got literally vaporized by Thanos's preemptive strike on the Avengers base, but he somehow managed to survive with the rest of them.
"...but Dany is just sitting alone all isolated, looking pissed with her Starbucks."
“Did you say Starbucks?”
@@raiden1766 Apparently they forgot to remove a Starbucks Takeaway Coffee Cup someone was previously drinking prior to shooting the scene. Lol
@@AbundantlyHappyLisa yeah i know, i saw it, just continuing on the chain
@@raiden1766 Probably didn't noticed you placed a quotation on your comment 😄
I’m gonna be looking for that Starbucks when I watch the final season with my friends
To put things into perspective: The Long Night, prophesized for literally thousands of years, the end-of-all-days scenario in the setting, the Armageddon that will undo life on the entire planet... was shorter than Theon's time as Lord of Winterfell. Hell, there's a decent chance Joffrey's wedding took longer.
And Joeffrey's wedding was more satisfying to watch...little bastard
@@mattm7798 You could atleast see the Wedding. The Long Night, was a black screen with some sound effects
The boar that killed Robert Baratheon had a greater effect on Westeros than the Night King.
She goes to kill Cersei, right? Yes, but she starts with.... EVERYONE ELSE.
It felt like so many people could have been the potential killer for Cersei (and it would have been satisfying).... instead it just ended up being a hug and some bricks for her final scene.
-Wait, so how do they survive? -By being off-screen for a few minutes Sounds legit
i fear people wont read the books may be
👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Ghost survived almost the whole episode this way.
everyone knows once you're off-screen you lose aggro from the zombies.
Off screen debuff
The “Counsel of Surviving Characters” is my favorite part of this whole video. So good!!! If only season 8 had this good of writing.
Yeah, the entire video is funny but that cracked me up
The members of the small council are good, but if only the queen was....
Featuring Randym Martell…
"That's certainly what they're going to google" would be my pick.
Jaime Lannister character arc is a perfect representation of Game of Throne’s quality over time.
It's a shame because they had so many potential great storey lines to wrap up. I don't think I'd even watch a Arya spin off.
Right...let's completely have this character undo all the work we spent almost a decade in building...and then not even try to explain why.
As is Arya. Or Varys. Or Bran. Or Tyrion. Or ..
Or Little Finger's pulse
"Oh also Bran is gunna warg into a crow" "Oh, why's he do that? "Unclear" "Okay, gotcha!"
I actually snorted at that part. Comedy gold.
Me: I bet the night king will be super hard to beat Arya: Actually it was super easy, barely an inconvenience
Me: Oh... my god.
Oh... Really??
Yep
nailed it.
@@thenightking8112 Feels bad man.
The “no really, you can have more episodes” joke is probably my favorite of the series
It's likely true as well, pretty sure HBO would have been more than happy to greenlight more seasons for their hit show.
@@santosic It is true. HBO was more than willing to keep footing the bill for more episodes. The showrunners D&D were the ones who both pushed for the shorter final 2 seasons and also refused to hand it off to anyone else. What's ironic is that the theory is they rushed it in an attempt to move on to a possible Star Wars trilogy they were to direct, but that deal ended up falling through after GoT S8 flopped.
@@cidcrisis I feel like Benioff and Weiss have just disappeared since GoT S8? I think they screwed it up so badly they have basically destroyed any hope at writing any big property they may ever have in the future.
@@SerMattzio Didn't they just release "3 Body Problem" on Netflix which is made by them?
For 7 seasons, I could not stop watching this show. I was telling everyone I knew, "OMG you HAVE to watch this!" Then, I watched season 8, and unlike almost every single great series I have ever watched, I never looked back or desired to watch it again. Seriously, I'll never understand why they sabotaged their own show. It had such potential.
Same! It could have been the greatest show in the history of the television medium.
Money. That's why. The makers David and DB wanted to get their hands on the next project.
And in a great irony, they absolute carpet bombing their brand took after the Season 8 debacle cost them multiple projects.
season 7 was just as bad though
@@yourmum69_420 very true! Basically everything that was not based on the books sucked. Season 6 is the best. I rewatched that one multiple times.
"I forgot about the horse. She forgot about the horse. It's a very forgettable horse." LMAO very forgettable arcs too
the irony is that it's the most unforgettable horse BTW
I was under the impression that was the end of Arya’s arc. Would’ve been a cool ending for a cool character. But they had to go eff it up. Were they honestly TRYING to do a bad job with all the characters?
@Ganda Gandara Me too...its a very forgettable horse.
they should have let Jon ride that horse north of the wall
Was that a Seinfeld reference?
"Cersei doesn't have any scorpions but she has the Golden Company" "Oh yeah, they built those guys up to be badasses. So what are they going to do?" *"Die immediately"* "Oh my God!" 😂😂
Patrick Bernard Like Boba Fett
@@HablaCarnage63 like Captain Phasma
Patrick Bernard who ironically somehow probably had a more fulfilling arc than Brienne of Tarth by the end.
It’s because they didn’t have elephants
"Oh my god" basically everyone's reaction to how bad it was lol
I love how this is the one time that movies and tv shows and Hollywood have offered to give someone as much time as they need to make something. And the creators are like “no, I want Star Wars.”
Yep, I'm sure HBO would have happily greenlighted more seasons for their hit show if the creators wanted more time to flesh out their ending. Meanwhile, some creators at Disney, like the creator of The Owl House, wish they could have had more time and certainly would have used it if offered. So foolish to not take advantage of something so rare.
Hello fellow Owl House fan
The accuracy of this video is unsettling.
roguemjd that’s how I know, we’re not wrong. We are all upset about the exact same things, for the exact same reason. Sometimes I worry, I’ve just become old and cynical.
I would have thought the "I/they forgot about it" line would have gotten old fast, but now I'm convinced it'll become as lasting as "jumping a shark" =D
steve moneybags LOL. I thought it was me too. But no it’s not us. We are right this time.
roguemjd I’d say reaffirming
Swanky Butters LOL 😂 so much true!
"Dany is just sitting there all pissed with her Starbucks" "Did you say Starbucks?"
*totally ignores him*
I dont get the joke. Can u please help
@@gevorkbabayan They accidentally left a starbucks cup on the table during that scene.
@@orpheusofdreams oh thanks bahahhahaa. Well i havent seen s8 at all. Dont want it to be ruind. Waiting for the books
@@gevorkbabayan too bad. Everybody did jokes about it. You missed a lot of fun.
"Who has a better story than Bran?" "Didn't Bran take an entire season off because the showrunners had no idea what to do with him and nobody cared about his story?" "Oh yeah. Whoops!" "Whoopsie!"
also, bran can see future events so he knew thousands of people were going to be slaughtered and said nothing
@@flerbus They didn't say he could see the future completely. He just saw some glimpses in his dreams from time to time.
@@fajastata2 so, if he can't see the future i'm guessing he gets murdered in his sleep shortly after the end of the show why would the realm allow an autistic cripple to rule?
It's kind of impressive how quickly David & Dan torpedoed their own careers & reputations.
“Would like some time? You can have it” “No” “Oh dang it, okay” 😆 😆 😆
The sad part its Truth
when disney calls and gives you star wars you gotta go lol.
michael jeacock Why? The Star Wars is on life support, they ticked off so many of their fans.
Benioff & Weiss: It costs way too much per episode, so we have to cut the 2 seasons with the biggest stories into the size of 1 season. HBO: Actually no, our subscriptions are way up because of Game, so please stick around and extend the series. In fact, please do prequels & spin offs as well. B&W: No... really, it’s just way to much story to not tell quickly. HBO: huh? B&W: Yeah, so we’re gonna go. *whispers into phone* “Hello, Disney?”
My favorite moment... this is so funny. xD
This is EXCELLENTLY written and performed!!! Literally more satisfying than the actual season of GOT.
Not a high bar there
So sad but true. Sigh.
Absolute winning!!!
"Nearly disappointing 50%"... who the hell are the other 50% that thought this show ended well? Like, who watched the last few seasons of GoT and thought "wow, that tied up all my questions and it was very well done"!?
Probably the ones who thought, "Thank God this horrible last season is finally over!" It was pretty obvious early in S8 that there was no way it was going to end well.
Not being disappointed doesn't mean they liked it; they probably lost hope before everyone else. Expecting something terrible means they couldn't be disappointed.
I’ve never met one. I think they’re made up. That 50% who hated it is more like 90%
The other 50 % were disappointed
There are people who were like "Well they had to end the show in some way"
You can tell Peter Dinklage is a superb actor for being able to say his lines and look like he means all that and respect them, when he knew all that was garbage.
From a few interview i've read, basically everyone on the cast knew at least to some degree the season was garbage.
Yeah but a terrible person who doesn't want other short actors to have an opportunity in Disney's remake of Snow White
And when many of the lines themselves were, in fact, garbage
Audience: "Hopefully they won't disappoint us" Producers: "Actually it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience"
Zwergz 112 800 likes in an hour good on ya sir.
Disappointing your audience is tight..
I nominate you for best comment - The CaitlynBot
actually a big inconvenience
This is brilliant, you win the internet for today
A dragon is no match for a bunch of scorpions… (15 seconds later) A bunch of scorpions are no match for a dragon! LOL classic
Eurons's ship had advanced AI aim assist tech. King's landing kinda forgot to implement it.
They tried to used the old "dogfight" tactic of coming with the sun behind you so the enemy doesnt see you... the difference here is that it works for the initial attack... after that you are in the open... sooo ridiculous
"So how can we cut our CGI costs in half?" "Well idk euron could just murder rhaegal so then it wouldn't really matter if he survived the battle with the army of the Dead" "Well okay"
Weekly patch nerfed the scorpions
It's amazing how they retained their ballistic power, after being fired nearly straight up.
My favourite line from this just might be, "It's a very forgettable horse"
What horse?!
I've joked about forgetting this season a few times but that horse is probably the one thing that I literally did completely forget about and even now I'm not entirely sure I remember seeing it before this video.
I figured it just died
The Council of Surviving Characters, may be the most clever throw away line in the whole video
“You can have more episodes” “I don wun et”
Keep in mind...I don't wanna.
Oof
The Night King is coming.
@@pandawandas he's gone already *insert viagra joke here*
D&D:gives fans season 8 Fans:I don wunt et
This video has more good writing than the entire last season of GOT.
true!!!!
So true!
More good - better Sorry...
TheTopMostDog better*
LMAO!! very true!
More than 3 years since this video came out and I still get physically upset thinking about how they rushed the end of my previously favorite show so badly that I can't sit through a rewatch
You nailed it man. My wife and I just finally caught up with the world and watched all 8 seasons. We had heard everyone hated the ending and wow now we see why. I couldn't believe Bran becomes King and Jon Snow is sent back up North. Those showrunners really butchered the ending
Also a late watcher, Knowing I was going to hate the ending kinda made me not want to watch it.. but im glad I did!
Bram becoming king kind of makes sense but it was so rushed.
@@mattm7798 All of it kind of makes sense but was too rushed. Dany the liberator being unmasked as Dany the traumatised mass murderer, Bran the paralysed child becoming king as a symbolic rejection of the power dynamics of the old regime, Jon Snow the prophesied heir not actually inheriting because that entire concept of primogeniture basically caused the problem in the first place, etc. etc.
@@FreshlyBakedLePain Agreed...I saw alot of people saying Dany going nuts was so out of nowhere...it wasn't per se but it was the way they presented it: rushed. Bran I guess makes sense but again, rushed. Jon Snow not being the one to kill the night king I don't think made sense given the prophecy but what upset me even more than that was the giant reveal that he's a Targaryan and it kind of meant nothing....that storyline alone needed a good 5-6 episodes to play out, if not a season.
@@FreshlyBakedLePain Hey but at least the showrunners rushing the final season gave them that dope multi movie deal making a New Star wars trilo .. ooh whait.
"THE COUNCIL OF SURVIVING CHARACTERS" exceedingly well done video
Excellent line
and that guy besides samwell, that noone has ever seen before.
That uncomfortable smile and "Oh okay." Was me the entire season lmao.
Alexandria Penaherrera it’s so bad
😂😂😂
I really loved episodes one and two then I was just bored with it.
The reactions were priceless😂
"Would you like some time? You can have it." "No."
" it"s a very forgettable horse " i want this to engraved on my tombstone
It should have ended with the guy pitching saying: “Good this meeting is finally over, let’s shoot this show so I can go work on Star Wars.” Then cut to a headline of D&D being fired from Star Wars.
100
I'm almost 100% certain this is a word-for-word recreation of the actual HBO meeting.
yup, leaked version
Halfman Halfamazing hahahahahaha! For sure!
2:44 is literally word-for-word something David Benioff said in a behind the scenes video for episode 4
What do you mean recreation? This is the real life footage. This is how decisions got made
Emilia: "Best season ever!" *Nervous laugh*
Is the exact thing I said at the end of the video
it reminded me of that little kid that was being interviewed and asked if he was gonna miss his mom, and he was like "noo...hehe..hehe" then started crying lmao
None of the actors seem too like the ending. They should all go to Peter Dinklages house and make a new ending, lol.
@@floydlooney6837 I'm sure that actually be incredibly awesome!
I genuinely respect her for not even attempting to hide it. Pretty sure she never even saw the final product in its totality post-production, but based on the script she was given, she knew. There was no way to edit that script into a cohesive narrative. And hats off to her for acknowledging it right away.
How could the stabbing of the Night King not be a "Super easy, barely an inconvenience" moment!
To be fair, he had basically fought his way thru Jon and Dany's entire army so he was no pushover. I also didn't mind Arya was they one who killed him(even tho it kind of messed up the prophecy)...I'm still mad the faceless man arch with Arya basically went nowhere. The least they could have done is have her use that power to trick the night king somehow. Also, why is he the only being in this universe able to withstand direct dragon fire unscathed?
@@mattm7798 The faceless man arc was to get Arya back to the North to kill Walder Frey, but when Sansa saw the faces in Arya's room in S7, she stopped doing it. It was all a bit silly, really, even though i did like Arya in Bravos and the whole storyline. It did turn her into a formidable fighter who could even figh blind, though.
“Her nephew doesn’t want to sleep with her…” 😂
They were trying to make the story relatable for the people that live in Alabama
Unlike season 8, I will rewatch this a few times.
It's not so bad if you tack on that scene where Bran wakes up at the end of an episode in an earlier season. (after he was pushed from the tower.) That's my head canon.
Burrrrrrrrn.
s8 was so bad that ruined the series for me,i mean whats the point of rewatching if i know how shityy things will end up
I do it for therapy, I’m still in denial.
@@tathan201120 me too brother
-A dragon is no match for a bunch of scorpions... -Next episode... A bunch of scorpions is no match for a dragon. 😂😂😂😂
@intempify Right! The writers take a major L for that BS.
@intempify The first dragon kill was complete BS. How is Daenerys and her dragons not going to see an entire fleet of ships from the sky when the fleet of ships can see her and launch a BS "surprise" attack
Right?? I legit was confudled by that.
and then those bolts made wood explode on impact. probably a medieval form of heat-seeking missile with explosive charge.
Euron made an off screen deal with some rogue USA arms dealers for laser guided wood missles.
This pitch meeting ripped open old wounds I thought had finally healed
Coming back to this again, still so hilarious and relevant. I love every time the producer verbally offers the writer more time and the writer keeps refusing saying "there just isn't enough time" 😆
You wanna know how bad season 8 was? We are in The middle of a long quarantine, and not a single person I know is rewatching this show.
Agreed. That's why I'm re-watching one of the best fantasy franchises of all time that won a lot of awards, starring a multi-talented cast with great effects and writing, great battles, diverse mythology and lore, and great settings. That franchise is Peter Jackson's adaptation of JRR Tolkien's The Lord Of The Rings.
Game of Thrones was a phenomenon in terms of success and cultural impact, however the ending ruined it all. If I remember correctly, after the outrage of the last season was over, it was as people had forgotten the show. The ending season took away all wishes of people to rewatch the whole show, even the best seasons, because they know everything is ruined at the end.
@@7Mushrooms7 Me and my friend watched the finale just a day before our final exams in high school after breakfast and you want to know how we felt after watching the finale. Disappointed and angry.
Before season 8 started I said I was gonna due a full rewatch when it was done. But even now I have no interest. Still love the old seasons but the ending leaves a dark cloud over whole series
@@alexpresser132 Agreed.
I came for a comedy and found a documentary.
Underrated comment of the day!
I hope this will be history channel material.
Nicely done Dalibor!
The vicness radiates within you ser
Hahaha
The fact that @2:45 is an actual quote still BOGGLES MY MIND.
After the Peral Harbor attacks, the Americans assembled a force to invade Japan, which got completely annihilated in sea because they kinda forgot about the Imperial Japanese Navy
‘The Council of Surviving Characters’ ….I tell ya, some of this Dude’s lines are Mint!🤗
- "It must be really hard to ruin such a good show" - "Actually it’s super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
I predicted that would be the part
Damn spot on
*_Season 1-7_*_ : "Winter is coming."_ *_Season 8_*_ : "Winter is here."_ *_Winter_*_ : "I'm in a rush."_
TIL that Winter was my ex-boyfriend. All this hub bub and build up about coming, but when he gets here, it is short, disappointing, and ultimately irrelevant.
@@lostinparadice 😂😂😂😂
Aaaaand... it's gone
Winter probably forgot it was happening
Winter had to work on a star wars trilogy
"Does Danny remember who Cersei is?" "Of course she does!" 😆
This is possibly the most accurate thing I've ever seen.
This is so funny
So completely accurate!
It's pretty much a perfect analysis.
Except the part about Jaime. He was obviously always going to be by the side of Cerci. No question there.
Absolutely spot on. We've all had those questions. Lol
He... literally... hit *every* complaint I had... mind reader!!
Just call him joseph joestar
I would just add in Euron swimming miles in armor to show up exactly where and when Jamie arrives, mortally stabbing him twice - and then Jamie climbing thousands of stairs to be with Cersei...and then climbing back down to die by some bricks to the head. Oh and Sam becoming Grand Maester considering he has no little to no training and left the academy after basically being a janitor for a few months.
Just from what he says you can tell it's much worse than most of the other "Pitch Meetings" in his videos, too
He forgot the siege weapons infront of the army, arya and hound being slower than the army going south, arya just walking through the streets, nightswatch not being a thing anymore, wildlings marching north even though they want to live in the south, greyworm and dothraki not carying about john really, etc. Etc.... this ending man
Animatedzombie mango Yes
I love how you straight up repeat things d&d have actually said and it fits perfectly fine
4 years on and this is still pure gold
The fact that I'm rewatching this pitch meeting but not the final season is really telling
😂😂😂 I have watched this pitch meeting so many times since that finale.
I mean who the hell rewatch tv shows like game of thrones/breaking bad etc when u already know the plot it's not fun to watch
Facts!!!
@@shlomoshlomo963 Yeah, who re-reads books, or re-watches movies? Reliving and re-experiencing fantastical imagination escapes is for losers! (A little less sarcastically) If a story has more to offer than simply surprises and spectacle, there is much to be had in reliving it. Take a couple years or so and you’re a different person. You watch a show again and you love a character you used to hate, or you pick up on tiny details, or there’s more you can relate to. It’s awesome. I highly recommend re-experiencing your favorite stories, in whatever medium.
its telling that you have 7 free minutes to laugh, but not 7 hours to cry
"We built the Golden Company up to be bad asses. What are they going to do?" "Die Immediately" "OMG" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was it difficult for Dany to beat them?
When were they built up exactly?
😂🤣😂🤣😂😒😂😂😂😂😂
SUBVERTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet you didn't see THAT COMING! D&D such genius writing. If you don't like it, maybe you're just not intelligent?
“Council of surviving characters.” Lost it on that one.
"Would you like some time? You can have it." "No." Gets me everytime 😂😂😂
Kit Harringtons Script for this season: "She is our qween", "You are ma Qwueen", "I DUNT WANT IT", "I Dunt Knoww", All followed by him having his mouth hang open like a imbecile.
Jon snow learning english grammar - You are my queen She is your queen She is our queen
You forgot his best line of the entire season: LITTLE CHILDREN, BURNED!
Thanks reddit
@@diogobuquera665 And that he won't justify what happened, BUUUUUT..........
more like "I dunt wa et"
-So Jon will hide behind the rock and survive dragons blue fire -But didn't the same dragon destroyed the wall? -I kind of forgot about that
The same fire that could melt a steel throne.
@Round “The Iron Throne was an inside job!!!”
To be fair it was probably only half as strong since his throat was torn but it still should have at least hurt him if not nearly kill him
I honestly thought Jon would survive a roasting... He's Targaryen
@@RubbinRobbin Vaporizing a 700 foot tall, 100 foot thick wall made of magic and ice is considerably more impressive. With what we've seen dragon's fire do, including reducing men to ash in a matter of seconds, the Iron Throne should have lasted about a second.
"Did he understand that the power of the throne corrupted her or did he just get mad at the one pointy thing in the room?" With this script writing quality, which one do you think it's the correct one? xD
You’ve made a lot of great videos, but this one is arguably the most accurate of all. 10/10
John Snow lines in season 8 1. She is my queen 2. I don’t want it 3. It doesn’t matter
Seasons 5-8 actually. We name you Lord Commander. Dont want it We name you King in the North. Dont want it You're the true King and we'll follow you Dont want it
they have gazillion writers and that's all they can do recycling the same lines over and over
Tyrion was right to go into the crypts. The knowledge he had was a wooden box could keep a white walker trapped across all of Westeros. Why would they suddenly be able to punch through solid stone? He had no way to know D and D would change the rules of the universe on him.
To be fair they weren't regular zombies, they were ancient Stark zombies.
Even with that knowledge, any sensible person would at least burn all the bodies to be sure.
@@leonpaelinck burn all the god knows how many corpses of ancient stark kings over the course of hours before considering it safe to hide there?
The wooden box had a wight in it, not a white walker. Two different things. The wights are zombies while the white walkers are the ice beings.
The fact you think it was a white walker in the crate just shows your level of thinking, just as bad as D&D
Had the potential to be widely considered the best show in TV history and they fumbled the ball at the buzzer.
I'd still argue it is in that conversation. 1 bad season doesn't under 5 incredible seasons, 1 great season, 1 good season, and 1 terrible season.
@@mattm7798 I mean I'd normally agree, but this one really was bad enough that after trying to rewatch it several times, it literally had made it impossible for me to get past season 2.
@@NerdHerdForLife Yeah, I can definitely see if our mind can't get season 8 blocked. I wonder if the John Snow spinoff is really good, that would help you erase season 8. House of the Dragon is good, by funny enough, depsite the title, I think there were too many dragons and the season felt like a 10 episode prelude to the last 30 minutes of episode 10...we'll see if it comes close to reaching the greatness of the OG hbo show.
"Its like world war z but with 5 pair of sunglasses on" LMAO
i skipped through half of the episode
StarLighter4 best line! 🤣
I cometo the comments to see the jokes written down before I understand them, at least that’s what it feels like 😂😂😂
Basically
“Plus two of her dragons died. A couple of her friends. Plus, her nephew doesn’t even want to sleep with her.” This killed me
Killed someone else too
That’s where I cracked up. 😂😂😂
You're dead
I remembered this season was bad, but I had forgotten *how* bad it was. This pitch meeting is the memento we need.
Never has a series fallen flat on its face hard than GoT.
Even Lost wasn't so bad.
The Golden Army Line got me lol. "Oh they sound like Badasses, what do they do?" "Die immediately"
Colton Nash company
Lol
I lost it at that part, had to pause for a few minutes at least. The delivery is just perfect: "Oh my God."
@@victorious-dl6hk lol nice catch. Thought we were watching Hellboy..
Let me get this straight. Dany gets 8,000 Unsullied and after many battles in Essos, assassinations by the Harpies, the war with Cersei, the battle against the dead at Winterfell, she somehow still has just as many Unsullied at Kings Landing as the Golden Company (20,000). Dany must be a witch who can clone Unsullied.
D&D rushed the final season for a star wars movie only to be fired Karma.
They basically sabotaged themselves lol
Would YOU hire someone who did such a piss-poor job?
don't forget about their genius idea for the an hbo show where the confederacy won the civil war
doggyaugie actually that sounds interesting
@@Santiago-yb4be 🙄
Dani forgot about the iron fleet with such conviction that it impacted here ability to physically see a bunch of tall ships while on dragon back at least 300 ft in the air!!😅😅😮😮
Anyone else watching this for the 30th time 2 years later just because it hurts so good?
If 2019 told us anything, it's that ruining a franchise, ANY franchise, is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
It really is. I mean, three amazing "sagas" ended in 2019, and only one of them lived up, maybe even surpassed our expectations (Endgame - Infinity Saga). The other two barely qualified to be "finales" you know? (GoT, Star wars) And the only place where they both screwed up was in the writing. Everything else was amazing. The writing is what sent those two beloved pieces of art into the sewage. I can't even re-watch GoT cause I know how bad its gonna end.
@@azazel3239 Doctor Who got destroyed according to a lot of fans as well.
Brilliant
@@azazel3239 The Terminator franchise pretty much died as well.
@@avada0 that franchise died when salvation was released lol
The most shocking part was the headline at the end saying that NEARLY 50% of ppl were disappointed by the finale. Like, are you saying the majority WEREN'T disappointed?
It's 2022 now. 2 years since pandemic started. 2 whole years to rewatched any good series. GOT didn't even come in mind.
"Oh yeah it's gonna be like watching World War Z, but with like, 5 pairs of sunglasses on." Rotfl! 😂
LOL!
Lol 😂
LOL! squared
Don’t kill me, but I didn’t get it
Only 50% were disappointed? Were the other 50% watching something else?
The other 50% couldn't be bothered to express their disappointment
they though, oh cool effects
This is a solid question that I would not mind someone answering for me.
The other 50% already had their expectations crushed. You can't be disappointed when you're already expecting it to be bad.
The other 50% are casuals who don't care to express their disappointment on the Internet but you can bet they WERE disappointed.
Game of thrones died with Jon being betrayed, everything after that was his post-mortem nightmare
I appreciate that the Executive will question everything and yet still greenlight literally whatever the guy pitching says. Like "that sounds awful, let's do it"
I'm pretty sure this is exactly how the actual pitch meeting went.
Add some drugs to the mix and you got it :)
The part about the studio offering them more episodes but the writers wanting six really is what happened at least.
Of course, these are *all* leaked footage from real pitch meetings - after all, how should Ryan be able to pull this off by himself?
@@jonathancampbell5231 HBO wanted 10 seasons of 10 episodes.
@@edgara4037 Facts, and HBO pratically gave them a blank check from what I've read.
'I never cared about innocent people' - Jaime Lannister, the man who carried the slur 'KingSlayer' throughout his life despite honour meaning everything to him because he broke his oath to save innocents. Well done.
Yeah the same Jamie who wanted to take the army north to fight the dead to keep them from killing everyone!
He never cared *much* for the people in King's Landing, which is not a lie. We see a sort of redemtion arc, but it's really just about getting to know his good sides. His bad sides are still there. He truly never really cared much for the little people. He had a sense of honour, but not strong enough to prevent him from trying to kill a child to cover up his incestuous relationship. Of right and wrong, but never strong enough to put right above his own wants and needs. He also killed his king not so much to save innocents as to avoid having to try to kill his own father, and to save his own life regardless of the outcome of that, because it was obvious to anyone but the king that the war was lost. And yet, in this scene, he is kinda lying to himself, exaggerating to himself how he doesn't care as an excuse to get to Cersei, the drug he is addicted to. Many addicts easily fall back into addiction, and this is exactly what this is. Jaime never changed much, we just got to know him better. If Cersei hadn't been in danger, he probably could have stayed away. But suddenly he got faced with one last chance to see her ever, and he fell right back into his addiction. And despite our feelings for him, he and Cersei were together their whole lives and together were the #1 villains since episode 1, so it was fitting, in a way, for them to die together. Jaime's redemption, in the eyes of the audience, had already happened, that arc was already complete. But to himself, his primary arc was his relationship with Cersei. "We don't choose whom we love."
@@SelvesteSand Yeah no, it's just bad writing and pacing
@@SelvesteSand ya, he had no problem with killing a child, in like the first episode, then he has an arc, that's the whole point of arcs, just bad writing
@@leonardorossi1543 I’m not even invested in this argument, but having a whole detailed explanation and argument relied to with just “yeah no lazy” is just frustrating.
This Pitch meeting is way better then GOT season 8
I love that he keeps offering to give him more episodes but he keeps turning them down lol
“A dragon is no match for a bunch of scorpions” “Okay” “So anyway an episode later Drogon destroys all of the scorpions on the ships of Euron’s fleet, plus all of the ones on King’s Landing” “Really?” “Of courses! A bunch of scorpions are no match for a dragon” 😂😂😂
Strongly reminds me of organic chem.. Defying its own logic.
Plus the very next episode they all decide to line up within range of Cersei's scorpions and Cersei inexplicably decides to spare them and not save herself in the process
Thanks for quoting the video for the deaf people!
@@LordofHogwarts And also for anyone who didn't want the captions on.....
@@LordofHogwarts When did you start using the internet? Welcome.
Fans: We want 10 episodes. D&D: You will get less. Davos: Fewer.
The best part is HBO greenlit 14 seasons. GRRM wanted 11 or 12. D&D gave us 7.1.
@@Exalted_Example Source?
@@Exalted_Example Who can blame them? They come from the surround sound industry.
All about that Star Wars money
@Nicodemus Edwards gief link to thst info
This is the first pitch meeting I ever watched and left me in a rabbit hole watching every pitch meeting that I still today enjoy a new one every thursday
This 7 minute video was far more enjoyably than all of season 8.
I cannot put into words how well you captured basically every single thought I had this entire season.
same
But you did. You did
Just missed the part where Jamie and Cersei are buried under a wall of rubble...then the crypt has a few tiny piles of rocks when Tyrion goes down there 🙄🙄
@Fresh M3 Your comment is my thoughts for this video
Well ok then :)
"Oh also Bran is gonna Warg into a crow!" "Oh, why does he do that?" "Unclear!" Literally dead
@M J Grasscutter I agree, but the official definition literally states otherwise now. Yikes.
@plaguelock Google it.
M J Grasscutter You seem very passionate about language, have you perhaps considered studying it? I took a couple of courses a few years ago, pretty interesting stuff if you’re interested in the history of language and how definitions of words are formed. Words, as I’m sure you’re well aware, can actually hold multiple meanings depending on region. This is mostly due to the case that English is made up from multiple differing languages and when it was originally spread via word of mouth, some words were mistranslated etc. With that in mind, also take note that words can only truly having meaning if we, the individuals who use the words, give meaning to those words. If a majority of people `misuse` a word then the organisation responsible for linguistic information, such as dictionaries, thesaurus’s, etc, will generally update their databases reflecting the current usage of words. Many words over many years have had their meanings changed, dependant of region of course. In this case, `literally` has been updated to informally mean `figuratively`
@M J Grasscutter Complaining about incorrect language is foolish when all language is actually just perversion of earlier correct language. It's all fluid, and the notion that a correct language even exists is less well-founded than most people are aware of.
Why did I rewatch this???? Now I mad and sad all over again. Darn, you KZhead recommendations. Lol!!!! 💛💛💛💛
After all this time, this video is still so cathartic for me
Same