Cessna Power Loss Vs. Hudson Landing: Why The STARTLE EFFECT Matters! EXPLAINED by CAPTAIN JOE
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In the high-stress world of aviation, unexpected engine failures can send shockwaves through a pilot's world, and how they react in these critical moments can be a matter of life and death. Join us as we explore the incredible stories of pilots facing engine failures and compare their experiences to the legendary Hudson River landing.
In this video, we delve deep into the aviation world to understand the "startle effect" - a psychological response that affects how pilots react when confronted with sudden, unexpected situations. You'll witness the dramatic difference between the initial shock of an engine failure in a small Cessna 150 and the miraculous emergency landing of US Airways Flight 1549 on the Hudson River, where both engines failed.
We'll explore the factors that contribute to the startle effect, how it affects decision-making, and ultimately, how pilots are trained to overcome this instinctive response to ensure the safety of their passengers and themselves. This video offers a captivating look at the split-second choices made in the face of adversity and the invaluable lessons learned from these harrowing experiences.
So, join us on this thrilling journey through aviation's most challenging moments, and gain a newfound appreciation for the skill, training, and unshakeable resolve of the men and women who navigate the skies, facing the unknown with courage and determination. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to stay updated on more exciting aviation content!
Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this video!
Wishing you all the best!
Your "Captain" Joe
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00:00 Introduction
00:38 Engine Failure on Cessna
05:27 Debrief of Engine Failure
07:04 Future Pilots Masterclass insight
07:27 Comparison to Hudson River landing
09:08 Startle Effect
11:30 Surprise Effect
12:37 Startle vs Surprise Effect
13:00 5 helpful tips on startle effect
13:11 #1 Training and Simulation
13:55 #2 Chair Flying
14:43 #3 Enhance Situational Awareness
15:11 #4 Effective Crew Communication
15:34 #5 Mental Preparedness
16:53 Outro
As the old joke goes: the propeller is actually a fan to cool the pilot down, when it stops spinning, you can see the pilot start sweating
The classic😉
😂
😂😂😂😂 classic pilot joke
Classic 😂
I'm taking note of it :)
It can happen to anyone at any time... Me , a glider pilot: 🤔
When prop on your towing plane stop cooling pilot at low altitude. 😉
I think the pilot's focus on talking to ATC was a very natural one, alone in a scary situation you look for support from other humans. Even if they can't physically help you and you have no more useful information to share, you just want to talk about what's going on. It's also a way to try and distract yourself from the scariness of what is going on. But it's also true that looking for support and distracting yourself aren't helpful coping strategies when you need to do what has to be done, right now, and alone.
Yes, I can confirm. In this situation you eagerly want to talk to someone, not being alone.
He also helped ATC to send rescue personnel where it could have been needed to save his life
In a stress-management class I took, the facilitator was famous for saying, "Be careful how you talk to yourself, for you are listening." In other words, give yourself credit, and don't call yourself names like dummy or stupid.
Tom Hanks does a really good job portraying the subtle emotions of someone like Sully in an event like that. If you're good enough at reading people, you can hear that startle in the ATC of the Miracle on the Hudson. Sully does a very good job reigning it in, but you can hear it. Fear is universal, it is the response to it that determines success or failure.
He did a nice job overall. And 70 knots isn’t slow at all for a Cessna 150. That is nearly twice the stall speed at a light weight. The only real mistake I saw was he didn’t pull the yoke back into his chest to make a soft field landing after touchdown. When landing in a field like that, you don’t know how soft it is and keeping the nose wheel light is almost always advisable.
I was thinking the same. But he picked a really nice field and landed almost at a full stall so he did very well.
@@daffidavit 100% agree.
Imagine landing in what turns out to be a mushy field and the wheels just instantly sink half a meter in and flip the plane. :0
@@trulyinfamous That still beats a stall/spin arrival.
Do you think the aircraft might have received some damage or will it be written off?
Business flyer for many years. Watching Captain Joe and Kelsey from 74 Gear, and reading Patrick Smith from Ask the Pilot, has made me very comfortable and informed when in the skies; especially when events appear to be dicey, but are rather routine and SOP for the pilots and cabin crew (e.g. go-arounds, crab landings, turbulence, and once - sudden cabin depressurization). Has even helped me calm fellow passengers. Thank you, Captain Joe, for another informative and contextual video!
I also use mentor pilot as to be ready
May I also recommend Dan Gryder
10:55 Startle effect example: My son just went through Navy RLP Inspection which is a kind of hazing, during which you need to recall and correctly state certain regulations while the world around you is on fire by drill instructors. I can see now why they do this. It's kind of an inoculation. If you've been through it before, than you will reduce that lag of indecision that can get your brothers and sisters killed. Love the vid Joe.
In the UK for a forced landing, we were taught to pick a suitable field considering wind direction, surface, length etc, and to set up a base leg for that field, beginning at 1,000ft ... so, to pick that field, then a spot which is your 1,000ft area for that field. To simply glide down and hope to get into a field isn't a good idea ... it will often work for some large fields where there are plenty, but for others, it won't. That huge field the Cessna landed in didn't warrant a base leg, ... the approach and landing were fine. The base leg for a field is a really good idea and I'm glad I was taught it. It would be a really good idea to see a simulated or real forced landing into a field where only that field exists. On my own GFT (Flying Test) the examiner cut the engine at 2,200 ft as I climbed straight ahead out of the runway. I did as already described, gave a mock Mayday call and declared no visible signs giving wind direction so I was using the wind direction that ATC had given to me when I was cleared for take-off. (made a note on my knee pad). I identified a nice field straight ahead and told the examiner of it along with where my 1,000ft area was for that field. I had not enough height to do a full or partial "circuit" for that field so I did a long sweeping glide in order to dump height and to be at my 1,000ft area at that height. From there it was simple to get into the field ... didn't actually land in it but satisfied the examiner that I could have. In the USA it's probably the case that there could be larger fields around than in England ... not necessarily though, but likely. The field I picked was only one of 2 available to me as far as I remember ... going back almost 50 years now! If there hadn't been a field available for my chosen wind direction (straight ahead), I would have made a turn and looked for any longish decent field.
He did have a base leg. He turned to left final leg.
@@outwiththemno, he did not have a base leg… you clearly don’t know what a base leg is …. He didn’t need one, regardless, with the huge long fields available to him!
@@outwiththem the pianoman1010 is an old channel of minethat comes when I reply using my phone for some reason. As I have said, NO base leg!
Glad your back with more videos Joe I’m subscribed to the future pilots and I love seeing different people stories of how they became pilots
Excellent video! This brought back memories of the Eastern flight 401 crash back in 1972. Aircraft unexpectedly started a descent so gradual that no one noticed until moments before the crash. Flight recorder audio of the cockpit crew illustrates how they were confused when they saw instrumentation indicating their low altitude.
As a aviation rescue firefighter and a volunteer firefighter, this video is just a valuable for us as it is for pilots. Thanks for this video Joe, I plan on using this video in our training. Good reminders and tips
Caught another typo in your nice video package. "Rehearse your procedures" at 16:35 min. is misspelled and shown as "Reharse your procedures!"
Being a student pilot I saw these techniques also works for day to everyday life as how to deal with problems ect very helpfully anyway.
Thank you for your videos captain !
The Cessna Pilot made an absolutely great job - my respect. 👍👍👍
He ran out of gas, called first then looked for a place to land. LUCKY GUY he found a nice field. Luck is not talents..
This video made me understand why during my ATPL my CFI kept making me 3/4 engine failures randomly during every flight, over every kind of terrain. Luckily I finished my single engine without problems, this video or the contents of it should always be told to everyone who starts flying. Thanks Joe! :)
It's funny how similar this situation can be to emergency responders. As an EMT, you can definitively feel the startle effect when someone suddenly enters into Cardio Respiratory Arrest. It takes you a few seconds to gather your wits. And the more training and experience you got, the more you can mitigate that startle effect duration and be efficient. But you can't completely get rid of it.
been desperately waiting to view this video after seeing your story on instagram.. i joined the future pilots masterclass and im also looking forward to getting to read your book, "read and do".. cant thank you enough for these informative videos and courses and looking forward to talking to you in the future zoom sessions very soon!
Cool to have you on board!
reasons to know your memory items very well.
Another great educational video mate,safe flights ,keep up the good work,👋👋🙏👏👏👍🇦🇺
I watched Sully when it was released in the movie theater, because I knew that accident while he got bird strike back then in the news. Although Sully was a movie performed by Tom Hanks, but I knew he’ll try to act him as much real as possible, because he was also cooperative with real Sully Sullenberger. This is very great video explained by Captain Joe, because Joe explains these Startle and Surprise effect so clearly. I’d watched some videos talking about Sully like 74 Gear few times, but I still can learn new knowledge from Captain Joe. Good job, Joe. 🫡 By the way, real Sully recently announced a new Sully Aviation Museum, and I left him a message I’ll definitely check it out in the future although I already visited some museums in US.
Boy must have been very scared. You could see him shaking so bad. I’m glad he is okay and I am also glad that the US Airways A300 with 155 people onboard landed safely, with no fatalities and 100 injured.
I hate to be that guy but it was an A320
@@brandonsg1367 oh, it’s fine! Thank you! I heard it was an a300 but thanks for telling me :)
Brilliant flying by Brain
Nice job! Well done
Wow, finally the cool video from Captain Joe is back. I am excited about this video because in this video there are excerpts from my favorite film. I have watched this video many times and still love it. this video is cool and great. ✈️🛩️
But you know in a way, communicating relieves stress. So probably talking with ATC just helped him calmed down a bit.
Excellent landing, Brian!!!!!!
Nice ending! Congrats!
Excelente video
Talking about interactions between air traffic control tower and pilots, sometimes air traffic controllers may interpret " abeam this landmark " or " abeam the tower " , as " near the tower " or overheading some area where the ATCo expects that traffic to be at a time; I think it is advisable to add " abeam north of... " etc. so that the tower will spot you sooner.
What a wonderful video!!
Lovely upload :D
Great job 👍
This video let me recall all my memories to my emergency landing I had some time ago in the Austrian mountains. Without thinking about it I indeed followed the Aviate-Navigate-Communicate rule and put the aircraft down on a small uphill meadow on top of a mountain. (Without any damage. Luckily) Only significantly later I realised what I just did and that it actually was picture perfect. Without a doubt, I had all the luck in the world but beside that, being well trained and having had the last dead stick landings just a few days ago definitely saved my life that day. Boy, I can not emphasise that enough: Stay. In. Training. Really!
Agnor, is that you Agnor?
Sorrry Joe- I am a native of and live in Florida----and we have trees here also (some BIG ones too!!) Maybe you meant mountains.
I did all my flight training in Florida, yes there are a few trees, and yes I should have said mountains 😉
I was with a flight instructor once, we practiced an emergency landing procedure, we completed the procedure and began to taxi back to the runway and take off again, on the take off roll, my instructor pulled back the throttle to simulate an engine failure shortly before I was about to lift off, we were traveling around 40-55 knots when he did it, I know I experienced the startle effect bc my adrenaline shot way up, I felt my heart rate increase and I know I took a couple seconds to realize what was happening. After it was over, I just instinctively slammed on the brakes to abort the take off seeing the end of the runway drawing closer.
Just watched a video of part of the right main gear flying off of a 747 used as a freighter & thought of Captain Joe
I think your Pro Tips should be something every pilot trains with!
An interesting comparison. I particularly liked the comparison of startle vs. surprise. (Also, that Tom Hanks is a heck of an actor. He's gonna be famous one of these days.) ;) One piece of constructive criticism: Your editor should have someone check their graphics for spelling. There were two errors that I noticed in this video: "CHAIR FYLING" (13:56) and "Reharse your procedures!" (16:48) It's a shame in an otherwise very professional presentation.
Thanks buddy! Will look out for that!
Great video cpt.
Great job by the pilot getting it down safely! however, he focused on altitude, not airspeed, would give him a few minutes if he pitched for 60 knots. 1st item on the checklist. Carb heat on was good, but no checks for mixture or fuel selector, primer and ignition to R/L or in his case start since the propeller stopped. No checklist needed, these are by heart items for a reason, as well as forced landing items. You may not remember all of them in the situation, but thats why we practice. Instead, he focused his attention on setting a squawk code which is completely irrelevant in this scenario. Again, In my opinion amazingly done, especially being as low as he was, and talking to ATC gave him some reassurance, and im not saying i would have done any better, but it highlights the importance of practicing and knowing your by heart items so the starttle effect doesnt cause you to forget one of the most essential checklist there is
To be fair engine out is a memory item for a reason.... backup with a checklist if possible.
Happy birthday Capt Joe !!!!
Checklists for emergency landings are memory here in Canada. You never take them out as you should know them by heart for general aviation.
Checklist and memory actions are 2 different things. If its a checklist, you have to read it, even if you know it fully by memory. If its a memory action, then it has to be executed without referring to any other material.
"and on that bombshell..." Nice Top Gear reference!
Hey Captain Joe! Any plans to do a video where you test yourself under emergency situations in a simulator. Such as a duel engine failure or one that requires a rejective take off and or landing? Maybe even demonstrate what happens when you yourself don’t prepare yourself while flying the A320 simulator during an emergency :)
Captain Joe is here when we needed him the most
No matter what happens Rule # 1 fly the airplane 👍 check
As a company instructor, experienced airline pilots constantly forget the aviate, navigate, communicate rule as well.
I first felt the surprise effect when I was driving at 75mph (120kmh) and hit a deer. It was twilight so visibility wasn’t great but my Tesla’s emergency braking slowed me down to 55mph before impact. Once it happened it took me 3 seconds to realize what happened and pull over. What pulled me out of the shock? I had a mental checklist that I used to explain what I just felt. First I thought ran over a piece of debris. Then I saw the hood crumpled and I put together. Ot wasn’t until I pulled over that my memory of a beige figure impacting the car was remembered.
Hi captain Joe, I just discovered your channel and I love it! I have a question in regards of the build up of ice all over the wing while aircraftbare flying really high, can you please explain in a video the whole situation and also it would be great for me to know how would you react with this type of situation?
Ah yes the good old ohh holy sh,t moment, you don't have to be in the cockpit of a plane to experience it!!
I saw you in Lichfield yesterday and I couldn’t think of your name but I wanted to say hi haha
You were in the slide tower right?
@@flywithcaptainjoe omg you remember, yea that was me
2:06 Poor guy, look at his hand shaking 😞
i would say his starting the apu at 29 seconds is worth a shout
Wow Still as Good As 2Yrs Ago👏🏾👏🏾
Hey captain, i like your videos and i want to be a pilot when i grow up Can you please tell how pilots land and taxi perfectly on the centerline
5:29 If you sell “I love Brian” badges…. I will buy one !!
Great video. Well done by the pilot to get down safely. I think your critique was spot on, and to be fair to the pilot, keeping in mind the fact that this scenario would be terrifying, I think he handled it well. Thank you.
As always, this is an excellent video package, Captain Joe. You may want to correct the misspelled word "FYLING" in the title #2 CHAIR FLYING at 13:57 min.
Could you maybe do a video how you become a pilot or how to become a pilot
Could you please make a video about your review in Boeing MAX safety issues and plane crashes? Thank you
Amazing fact is this youtube channel makes him more than his pilot career
I’m 17 yrs old and I live in Canada and flight school for PPL and CPL is 50000$, I think my dream of becoming a pilot is doomed
No worries man! I am over 30 and just recently got the CPL in Europe. I could only afford it after working in different fields for years and saving up the necessary fund. Your dream is not doomed keep fighting for it. You will eventually get there. My advice is to at least do the first class medical so that you are 100% sure you can invest in this career. Best of luck my friend, have faith!
I feel the same, but always remember that where there is a will there is a way, I am 17 as well, I dream of being a pilot for as long as I can remember. The realisation of how har it is gonna be hurts but I know that if I let that stop me from trying whatever I can that I’ll regret that for the rest of my life. I will always keep thinking of ways and one of those ways that could work is taking out a loan, an other one that I’ve been considering is to first become a flight attendant then I have a job and I can save up and if I where to fail I still have a job on an airplane until I try again. I also sometimes feel like my dream is doomed but I just remind myself of how sad I will be if I don’t keep working towards it. It’s better to try and fail than to lose motivation and throw away all your chances. Also we are both just 17, there is enough time because there is no obligation to be a fully licensed commercial pilot by 21. Just keep working towards us and don’t give up, maybe I’ll one day meet you in flight but until then good luck 👍
I'm your age and I live in England. Don't worry...we can make it
Hopeful man...
I’m also 17 but I live in the UK. I feel the exact same way 😢
Hey cap joe! Greetings from Canada When are you uploading content on future pilot master class? Love you always😊😉❤️❤️
We starting in with regular updates on a few days! Hold your horses😉
This is really important for new pilot students
Yes it is
@@flywithcaptainjoe Oh,hi man thanks for replying to me!!
Grest vlog 😊
the startle effect is something really strange. I got it once on a da40 when my passenger unvolontary put full flaps during cruise. For couple of second I saw my speed and altitude decrasied and I was really surprise. It took me couple second to understand that something was strange. Hopefully nothing important but still.
Yikess. Did you exceed Vne for those flaps?
I hate it to be in an airplane, but I love ur videos! You took a lot of my fears, and I made it from Germany to the USA this year!
I love flying, but would make a useless pilot. I leave it to the professionals.
@@djwarren5081why would you make a useless pilot, if you wanna be a pilot go for it, there is a lot of training that makes sure you know what you should know and it makes sure you are capable of being a pilot 👍
@@Donuts_random_stuff I've flown to most countries, but my idea of flying is looking out of the window whilst someone else is flying it. I'll stick to riding motorcycles and driving.
That means a lot! Thanks
can you make a video where you explains how to use the autopilot?
Hey Captain Joe! Do you remember a kid that sent you a video about lift and how a plane flies. You replied to it and sent me a hat. Well THATS ME. I hope you see this and remember me love your vids. btw this was back in 2018 or something when I was 6 or 7.😀
That's not nervousness causing the severe hand shaking, that is an ADRENALINE dump.
Hi sir, can you make a video about DLR-1 mic module(multitasking) for cadet pilot ? We need to your advices
Brian did a great job. My only comment, with such a low altitude don't think about Sqawk codes. Airspeed, Altitude, find somewhere to land. Which he did brilliantly. As did Sully.
startle effect is so surprizing for those guys that something went wrong. They have should know that engine can stop spinning at any moment and be ready at any second to worst case scenario
Now I thought that was scarry as heck. Love your show,keep the blue side up (woops sorry Kelsey) lol
Captain Joe rulez.
Hey captain Joe is this your website on facebook fly with Captain joe ,?
Captain Joe, a note about your enunciation of a word at timecode 10:32. I heard "... the SCORE code for loss of communication..." I had no idea if I had heard that correctly so I turned on the captions and I saw the word "SCORE." I did a search on that phrase and I found "... the SQUAWK code for loss off communication is 7600." Since I have zero flying experience I never would have known what you meant if I hadn't turned on the captions and then searched for the meaning of that phrase. Thanks for making me question your words!
Squawk for comms loss is 76 cuz I need my radio fixed. I wonder where I've learned this 😉
Joe, I have a question about pressurization how small of an opening does a plane need for the cockpit to get a pressurization warning and at what level is that warning given?
Just imagine: Captain Joe, Peter from Mentour pilot, AND Kelsey from 74 gear, ALL on the same screen at the same time! I know, I just broke yer brain; PLEASE do a collab video ASAP!!! ~ Please and thank you!
Let Juan from blancolirio join too!
What is the device that is connected to the tip of the vertical rudder during the test flight of the first model of Boeing passenger aircraft for test flight with a long wire?
That scene is broken up in the moved that I just watched on amazon prime. Is there an extended version of that?
I was watching the wrong scene 😁
Airport I did my PPL out of. Great tower and very professional. Hell of a experience to have.
Captain Joe have you heard about the 737 Max 9 by Boeing?
What about the holidays? How many weeks do you have a year? Are you allowed to take holidays in July/August? Can you ask a week holiday and ask you off days before and after you holidays? Can you ask to fly to Miami and then have your holidays there and then start work again from there?
Great video Joe but as a passenger I don’t want any startle effects 😆
Good morning 😂
The Startle Effect … running EMS in southwestern Virginia USA we referred to that as the “duh”factor. My example is too graphic and has been removed so as to avoid negatively affecting Capt. Joe’s audience.
@officflywithcaptainjoe Merry Christmas! Keep it safe over there.
Merry Christmas, I end up asking for help here as I never had a reply through contact in the website earlier this year. One of my Christmas gift is Captain’s Joe “Read and Do” Kindle Book… but I can’t seem to be able to purchase the kindle version, regardless of the link I follow. It always says “This title is not currently available for purchase” ? Any idea, anyone ?
Every pilot in my opinion should have a couple flights in a glider, you learn how important airspeed management is, and you treat every landing as the final landing (No go around).
I hope you see this!! Look up the channel Missionary Bush Pilot; Ryan flies in PNG, out to some crazy airstrips in the mountains. One of the things he does, before he takes off, is go through a brief mental checklist of what he needs to do if he has an engine failure. (I think you'll like his videos anyway, they're different from the usual commercial stuff. He generally posts on a Sunday.)
Surely the when the birds hit the engine it’s would have started a fire so why did the engine fire warning system not kick in?
In the Boeing 737 Flight Crew Operations Manual (Quick Reference Handbook) is procedure "9.1 "Runaway Stabilizer" Condition: >Uncommanded stabilizer trim movement occurs continously< .The procedure is dated March 27, 2014, about 4 years before the Lion Air 737 MAX crashed. This procedure could have saved the aircraft.
Captain why is it so that most of the hydraulic failures are in cargo planes?
Most probably because cargo aircraft are mostly older aircraft compared to passenger aircraft
03:38 Not 70 knots. That is about 55 Knots only. Below Vglide speed.
Can anyone explain to me why does a fan on a turbofan engine spin slowly and why is it designed to spin slowly and how does it create more thrust doing so
A fan cant spin too fast. If it (tip of the fan) starts approaching the speed of sound, it'll generate a large amount of drag Hence turbofans are designed to be at a specific speed
well, "doing" the Emergency Thing was very well BUT: on his Channel he writes, that he ran out of Fuel! So, time for a Video for Fuel related items...again....