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I won't be the only one in North America with the 115" TCL TV for long, but even worse than that is that HiSense has made a 110" TV that has double the brightness, and double the dimming zones. On the bright side maybe these means we get to have more videos?
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0:00 TCL
0:23 HiSense
2:03 The dimming zones are impressive
3:50 Color performance
4:20 things we don't know
5:16 Samsung The Wall
6:18 they made a Transparent one :|
7:30 outro
That didn’t take long
The story of TV industry
Did he dropped it again?
Yup…
That's what all the girls say to me.
Never does 😂
"this is what buyer's remorse feels like" That's why every time I buy something tech related I stop informing myself of that niche lol
Same haha at least for a while or I don't pay much attention on WAN Show or random videos where they talk about a competitor of something I bought recently
ignorance is bliss. buy it when its top of the line and ignore everyone for the rest of time. you now have top of the line forever :)
And yet Google doesn't get the memo and you still get AdSense ads for that product segment for months afterward.
Same!!
@@Jrakula10that’s sadly not how it works, at someplace point it will no longer work for you due to that tech product not being supported or powerful enough to meet your needs.
Technology evolves so quickly these days, just as you think you have the latest model, a new one pops up! Props for Hisense pushing the boundaries and upping their game in the face of such strong competition.
It's not even a recent trend. It's been that way for decades.
@@_IHateHandles_ to be fair, it doesn't happen every year
A.I is only going to get better. It is mind boggling the stuff they make now a days
If Linus buys the latest and greatest tv five minutes after his old one just became obsolete, we’ll have the perfect TV in 2-3 weeks!
give him another week of doing it so we more normal folk also get to reap the benefits at a more reasonable cost
Buy this one, and keep the other one to. The ultimate double monitor setup
Now that’s innovation
That's how you look 180 without a curved monitor.
Imagine the monitor arms...
The old one in portrait.
Lol, his theater room is already bigger than the biggest room in my house, and he'd probably have to expand it to do that effectively. I'm excited for 2030 when Linus has to book a flight to low Earth orbit so he can show off his latest TV.
"This is what buyer's remorse feels like." Lol, it's like watching Linus being back in the 90s when you'd spend $2999 on a pc that would be eclipsed 2 months later.
3k 90s dollars is kinda on par with what these tv's cost too
You say you've had your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique!
When I bought a new car, I purposely will not take a look at new car launches for the next 6 months. Ignorance is a bliss.
dont forget that pc couldnt even run crysis
The rule of thumb back in the 90's was you got about 1 year for every $1000 you spent. In 1995 I dropped $3000 on a Pentium 90Mhz which was the fastest cpu you could get. 3 years later I had to get a Pentium 2 at 233Mhz to run Ultima online. Today the system I built a system in 2016 was still perfectly fine for my needs that I only just replaced back in March because the motherboard was beginning to die.
I did the math on Linus' 8k TV. The 20 whatever it was thousand dimming zones were 10 by 10 pixels each. If that new TV has the same resolution and twice the zones, then the zones are 7 by 7 pixels.
Dennis is the only reason I don't skip sponsor plugs.
Same - actually viewed the sponsor ad because of how silly dennis makes them, love it!
I LooOove ReFriGeraTors
Huh. I never knew Dennis did sponsor spots. Is there one on this video? Has he been in others?
I'm over here with two 10 year old, 24" monitors at 1080p, 75hz, living the "I truly don't know what I'm missing" lifestyle
I'm still rocking Packard Bell. Lol
75 Hz! You man are living in the future! Mine only has 60 Hz...
At least I hope they're actual 1080p and not the fake 1080p my TV as a monitor has. If it wasn't for some digital trickery and MS ClearType it would be unusable for productivity and web browsing.
I'm on an 18 inch iiyama CRT. :P
i went from basically your setup to a qd oled and i thing the jump is so significant that it doesn’t even feel like an upgrade, they just feel like different products entirely lol
I like how no one in that venue is even slightly phased by Linus ranting to a camera right there on the floor.
there is the guy just recording Linus with his phone at 5:46
Fazed
"phased" is what happens to Geordi and Ensign Ro in S05E24 of TNG
I think it's expected at this point.
This is a hardware event. It is filled with tech reviewers. Of course no one is going crazy over this.
This goes beyond “1st world problems” and goes straight into “ceo of successful media company problems”
Rich people provlems
🤓Uhm achtually he is the Chief Vision Officer not the CEO of LMG
Dennis keeps making the best sponsor spots on LMG. Damn near spit out my tea when I saw the fake ear😂
You have no idea how hard it was to convince the wife to move up to 65". 110" is crazy!
I have a 65" TV, honestly, it looks small to me now I originally had a 32" TV that I thought was giant you get used to it for sure
well a 110 inch isnt for all day use, tho in my house we use a living room projector 130 inch and bascically screen tv and news daily. best option tho is to get a tv rolling stand and put on it a 55-65 inch and use that for daily news with the 100 inch and above screens for the movie experiences.
huh
Tell her that everyone enjoys another 15"
@lilyeet1980 you be a man and respect the opinions of the people you live with. Life will be a whole lot easier
Linus: “Gimme something bright” TV: pure white right in Linus’s eyes
Be careful what you wish for.
That was a very good intro, the energy was top tier, good video team LMG
3:32 love the people just walking through your shoot like you're me talking pictures of your kids at harry potter land :D
This is the funniest thing to happen to Linus this year
So far
And it's only week 2
@@kjcorderYes, that's the joke.
10.000 bucks funny...
in a month, no one reading this comment will get the joke.
Can't wait to get a MicroLED monitor when it'll be the cheapest option on Amazon in 20 years. LOL
you are poor 😂
Except it may be a lesser quality MicroLED tv... Even today, LCD tvs are't all good quality.
I'm glad to see actual CES coverage
Sounds like rich people are going to have a great year! So psyched about this, hope they won't be dissapointed.
As a home theater guy I'm still waiting for a 150" 2.35:1 TV to come out. Its really hard to buy a new projector when TVs are soo much better
Bring on the large format cinema widescreen TVs!
wait 5 minutes?
Sounds like you could buy the 110 inch and just sit closer lol.
Don't hold you breath for that aspect ratio. Possibly when micro LED modular panels become mainstream, so you can "build it" yourself.
@@budala1969 I know. I'll probably just wait and get the next gen Epson or JVC projectors
Man I really hope Dennis came up with that ad himself because it's probably the best ad LTT has ever done and It wouldn't be if it weren't him doing the ad
I legit lol'ed when the fake ear dropped in the broccoli 🤣🤣
Definitely feels like a Dennis ad so think he at least had a hand in it.
Dennis is involved with making these ads, I'm pretty sure they talked about this on WAN show once.
Laughed twice. First when he spat out the ear juice, and second time when he was buying "crack" from the guy in the alley.
Legit first time in a while where I didn't immediately skip forward past the sponsor ads
Ces feels really exciting this year. There's so much crazy display stuff
It’s so entertaining watching all the people around Linus reacting to him😂
You know what should you guys do when labs gets things going? For each category find a point at which technical difference is near imperceptible to human. I.e. response time or how deep black colour is for displays. Because at some point, technical difference might not even mean much if lesser option is cheaper AND that difference is imperceptible to humans.
they really needed to do this for phones. I'll take a 10 gram heavier phone thats .25mm thicker for better battery life
Exactly. Linus has spoken about how he feels conflicted about supporting mindless consumerism as part of his job when his heart lies with practicality and good value Focussing on what is actually subjectively valuable to human perception would be a great way to honour those values.
. 25mm thicker won't give you much but 10gms more heavier might. Best combo is no glass back but a plastic one and aluminum or a plastic side rail to reduce weight while still having great battery. @@zyeborm
It may be quite difficult to test that, but they kinda did that with FPS, when they tested with an e-sports professional whether more FPS improves your accuracy. That was prime LTT content. LTT is no stranger to double blind tests either, so I could see them do that once they have enough labs data to make sure the differences they are testing for are technically there to begin with.
@@LRM12o8Ehhhh I wouldn't call that empirical data, There wasn't a large enough sample size. You'd need a large enough sample size to scale the % across a wider scope. Argument sake, let's say they Wana use that data for a 1000 people, they'd need at least %10 to say anything with authority on such metrics. Ge 1 in 10 saw x difference in smoothness when at y frame rate.
Gonna be an excellent Christmas party at LMG this year when the 115" TCL is up for grabs. 😂
4:38 when it’s kicks the hdr in is crazy
Linus on the TCL tv: "This TV has no competition... except for my protector." The competitors: And I took that personally.
Looks like the LAN center just gained not only a $5K projector but also a 115” TV from China 😮
This is a good time for linus to drop his TV and buy a new one
drop the tv on the pool. XD
LOL @ "stop steaming your ears" in that closing ad. hahaha
I love the slight echo lol
every ces every year hurts my brain even more
“Each year CES hurts my brain even more.” 😉🤓
AND your wallet?
@@AC3handle yes
@@jerseylife8701this is SO much better to read
that hand at 2:10 looked real LMAO
Loved the sponsor ad :D
I think the best pitch for this TV is just the moment where that old guy was so blown away and blinded he damn near walked into Linus. 🤣🤣
Well, that escalated quickly.
I wonder how TCL was able to avoid whatever the LG patent is (or if we will see "LG sues TCL for patent infringement" at some point in the near future)
From what I remember in that video, the LG patent was set to expire in the U.S. in 2024. I'm guessing that is why these aren't launching until Q3 or Q4. For sale the day the patent expires.
Which patent?
@@leviathan19 Some kind of a patent that prevented TCL to sell their TVs in the US
@@zdtvcometpatents are renewable. They probably made a deal.
this is a bigger qm8 TV which is a fantastic quality+value line in the states. probably will cost more than $12k if the 98 stays at $6k.
Imagine walking around an event, turning a corner and seeing Linus standing .2cm from a TV screen blasting his eyes with its peak brightness. 🤣
So quick and yet they were still able to get a sponsor… I am impressed
I fully agree, we need more light in displays!
yeah the environment loves that
Linus ALWAYS have that great sense of timing 😂
Has*
I have an older model 55u7g from hisense and it is amazing for how much I spent, works amazing as a secondary monitor and is absolutely stunning with the color depth.
I don't know about the cooling gel part. But I can tell you that I recently bought a set of wicked cushions for my corsair virtuoso headset and they're great. The so-called "premium" pads from corsair are absolute garbage and fell apart way too fast but I can tell these are definitely higher quality. Thank you to corsair for making them replaceable even if their "premium" pads were a huge letdown on a 200+ dollar headset.
I used to think 32" TVs were massive growing up. It's crazy how far we've come.
I'm trying to remember the size of the tv my brothers and parents were looking at when Neil walked on the moon. Whatever was 'huge' for the time, I am pretty sure we didn't have it.
Probably 15" 😂
Have you tried moving a 32" CRT TV ?
Because it WAS huge, just not the screen size lol. That’s crt tv’s for you
lol i am still using a 20" crt tv
Linus is just such a good presenter, gotta give it to the man
I hate when his voice gets all high pitched or squeaky and when he tucks his elbows in...
@3:34, when you think your sh*it don't stink.
That escalated quickly
Linus is about to "test" another tv at his home before accidentally keeping it cause it's "too cumbersome to move" then get his team to move it when he's cool spending the payroll to do it and I love it let's see this tv in his theatre :)
Pretty sure the one he imported from china will be heavier than any NA made one.
That's the joy of buying the latest and greatest tech, Linus. There will always be something that tops it tomorrow! But seriously though, TV and Monitor tech is insane!
Plus you get to experience ALL of the growing pains of this new technology and sometimes as a bonus: the disappointment of most content not properly supporting it. 😂 But hey, somebody's gotta do it, else we'll never get these cool new technologies! Pour one out for the early adopters, they're really taking one (or many) for the team! O7
Of course that ad from Dennis had to play while I was eating!
Always wait for january to buy electronics, all the new shiny stuff comes out at the Las Vegas CES
I love this, I figured there would be something bigger coming out at CES but slightly bigger than the screen for his projector would have been? That's pretty cool When do we get the de-install of the 115-in TV and the install of this bigger, better one?
Probably in a few months
*smaller, better one. Linus' TV is 115 inches, this is 110.
4:09 69% of the range of human vision is indeed pretty nice. 😏
Given all of this I really hope the "more reasonable" sizes between 65" and 90" are getting cheaper. From 3-4m away, those have the optimal size (according to various standards), but they are just too expensive right now, especially since everything is moving so quickly (and at that size & distance 8K might actually still be a good idea)
The coin insertion at 2:09 😂
0:59 Geez
Dennis sponsored bits are the first I haven't skipped through in AGES. MOAR DENNIS!!!
My man cave is a large room but it's above my garage so the ceiling is slanted... So glad I currently don't have the wall space for this because I would be tempted.
That was propably the best sponsor spot I've ever seen on this channel.
I think Dennis should just do all your ad spots in the future
Dennis should do every video
agreed
Linus' voice is shot. Too much hype this year
Please review the new 8k 3d tv just released 🙏 im commening on your most recent stuff hoping to get a review in return, thank you as your Inteligence never lacks hahaha forever may you continue to seek more knowledge and help other along the way, as youve helps me very much so along with purchases 😂 may you have a phenomenal life and stay in good health.
I like the TCL reflection at 1:25
Linus roasted Ploufe for so long, but now the tables have turned 😂
transparent test, you could test the brightness of an object with nothing between the sensor, and then see how much of that brightness you lose when you put the transparent display in between the light source/sensor. so if you calibrate your lightsourse to about 1000 nits, and you get a reading of 890 nits with the display in between, your display has 89% transparency (or 11% translucency).
Who cares? Who needs a transparent screen?
@@penfold1992 They're really dumb for TVs, but I think they serve as a stepping point for other more logical applications like AR (or in all likelyhood, digital signage)
2:10 I literally thought someone behind camera was handing Linus a coin lol
That headphone ad gave me whiplash lol
I’m happy with my 85” TV. Anything more is overkill
I'm still rocking a 65" LG B8 OLED I picked up years ago, I just really can't see me needing to change it for years yet (assuming it doesn't fail).
so did people with 50" tvs 10 years ago
The audio has some kind of weird tinny echo. It's very strange and it's not happening during the ad segments so I think it's something with how you are recording.
I'd need to grab my headphones to confirm, but probably an artifact of background noise reduction eating into Linus's frequency spectrum.
Loved the intro 🤩
Paused after 27 seconds, epic rant. Genuine, true and to the point. I imagine that was you with the "spy balloons" trying to smuggle the TV out of China. After 4 attempts and 9 months, you finally get it just to see the exact same tv a week later in Vegas.
Financial decisions Linus, financial decisions.
Dude doesn't need to make decisions at this point. Just get it all...
I'm sure the content he made about that huge TV already paid the TV.
its all buissness expense that gets reducted from his taxes, basically free. he just makes a video on it and justify for the IRS. ahahahah perfect scheme it seems. if multi milioneres do it with private jets why cant linus
@@MrDragonorp I somehow have doubts the IRS is keen on approving his expenses on a borderline smuggled chinese TV.
He needs to make a water decision.
The 140" eclipses the 116 or whatever it is lol
W
and cost 250k$
Can’t wait to see when you get it set up lol
I have a hisense flagship from a couple years ago, so far so good. At the time I heard they were working on new display technologies.
High Five. Same here. It took NO convencing. My family walk to Bestbuy looking at SONY , n they got Angry walk out lol. Cuz u go back to store started to see funny pestle colors out of sudden that we did not notice on Sony before. Their demo is turned up tho. But as soon as as playing somethign like KZhead n etc real stuff. Just doesnt look as vibrant.
kinda random but what song was that at 6:05?
It plays from about 5:45 to 6:15. I am wondering what it is also. It sounds familiar, but I cant tell what it is.
@@jamescox8429I came back to this video to see if anyone ever found the song in the last few months only to find more people asking about it. Darn.
Says that his 115 inch TV is no good😅
2:10 lol it's like someone reached from behind the camera to pretend to stick a coin in
Loving Dennis' sponsor spots
Man, I can’t imagine what actually going to CES is like, because I follow like 5 youtubers who are there, and I am real damn tired of it just from that.
Linus is the best at what he does. The energy, the density of information while being objective. And I don't think it was scripted. On the floor, on demand.
That transparent display is so awsome I don't even know what I'm supposed to feel impressed about.
The TCL logo reflecting the Hisense TV is so ironic :))
why people is so concerned with peak brightness? if i set the brigthness of my tv at 50% my eyes automatically burn, and this in a bright room! impossible to watch tv with more than 15% brightness in a dim enviromnet. if you want to see something in hdr you have to be in a very bright room, because your eyes will burn with the maximum brightness of the tv if watching in a low ligtht room! so no HDR in a "cinema-like" environment. i really don't see any sense in this brightness war!
you can adjust the room settings. Its actually true, more brightness = better. It's not just brightness, there's contrast and many other things as well. OLED stands out even in a dark room.
the problem is a dark room is much more immersive than a bright room, like in a cinema. how can i watch tv in HDR in a dark room if the brightness needs to be so high for hdr to work? my eyes will melt.@@DungxxHen
Now if there was only something worth watching on TV…
I watched this on my tv?
Exactly 😂
I'm kitting out my home theatre room this year. I was going projector. But the Hisense screen is awfully tempting....
Saw it at CES its very impressive..
So basically what I'm getting from this, is that Linus bought a Chinese giga-TV and was blown away by it, and then all the other manufacturers went "Oh people want giant fancy TVs? Ok" and whipped up a product to beat the Chinese model xD
Most of these are Chinese. All the manufacturers were waiting to launch their new US ranges at CES but Linus couldn't wait and imported one (complete with Chinese menus).
Linus bought a Chinese TCL giga TV. He had to buy the Chinese version because it wasn't available globally. Then shortly after, TCL announces a global version and Hicense, another Chinese company, announces an even better version
@@davidk.d.7591 I mean he's gonna have a 115" half a year before any normal consumers can. Unless the new ones cost like half and twice better it isn't a bad thing after all.
I don't understand this push for brighter. I guess it is technically better. But using it is worse, 1,500nits is too bright for a normally lit room. I'd love to just say mediocre TVs are good enough for menand I don't need a top tier model, but how long before this turns out like audio? To hear dialog you often have to turn the volume up high enough for gunfire to be as loud as a real gun. Soon to see the dim indoor scenes you'll probably need to turn the brightness up high enough for outdoor scenes to burn your retinas like checking the time on your phone in the middle of the night. Basically, trying to make TV and movies more lifelike makes them worse to actually watch.
The brightness is for HDR. With higher dynamic range, you can have highlights that are very bright and much more accurate colors. This shouldn't bother your eyes any more than if you were on location when it was filmed. If you have seen good HDR content on a display capable of rendering it, it can look super realistic. Cranking SDR up ridiculously bright can be a problem though. SDR was meant to only encode between 0 and 100 nits because CRTs were very dim. HDR content is mastered at 0 to 4000 nits or 0 to 10,000 nits. That doesn't mean that the whole screen it going to be 4000 nits. It just means that the highlights and colors will be more accurate to real life. Being more accurate to real life with sound is annoying since an explosion or gunfire is uncomfortably loud. This doesn't quite apply to visuals in the same way. Most of the HDR video I have watched isn't painfully bright, it just looks more realistic since highlights and colors are closer to what they should be. Accurate highlights require good contrast in addition to the ability to reach the correct brightness.
@jamescox8429 I understand why, and I'm saying they're bad reasons. I'm not in the location the movie was filmed, I'm in a dark theater, my living room or lying in bed. HDR is great up until a point, then it goes downhill very quickly. I'd say 600 nits is about the brightest I ever want to see out of a TV. I disabled HDR in my browser because every time I accidentally watch a YT video in HDR I have to choose between either the video or everything else being an appropriate brightness. I have a strong feeling that HDR will be bad for watching movies very soon. If it were as simple as including an HDR and an SDR master that'd be fine. But they refuse to include 2 audio masters, so I have 0 expectation of that for video.
"I can imagine a lot of dentists, doctors, or other professionals struggling to load one of these into their Cybertruck in the BestBuy parking lot" 😆 nailed it.
just finish watching the previous video... watching this and my immediate reaction was ...... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm sure if you REALLY wanted that HiSense tv you'd figure out a way to make it fit in your budget provided the wife approves of course lol
He has to pay for the cost of that expensive tv some how, of course he has to keep bringing it up in more videos
Is there an issue?
Bait comment @@RippahRooJizah
@@Zaaf2003 My comment, or OPs? And is the answer "Yes"?
cant stop laughing by the way linus speak in high pitch voice... waitin for the voice crack
Bro when dennis took a sip of the "headphone juice" I was dying laughing.
When did Linus start smoking 4 packs a day?
The race for brightness is really odd to me. I watch in my living room and from my bed. I have both 65" 4k TV's (from like 5 years ago) set to lowest brightness because it hurts my fricking eyes when there is something bright on the screen. Am I the only one that prefers to not get physicaly hurt, even though image quality might not be the best of the best? :O
Same with PC monitors for me, when I'm using mine at night in my room with just a lamp on I have to have the screen brightness at almost the lowest possible setting or else it feels like the thing is burning my retinas out.
@@rtmclean484 Yeah, i do the same. But on PC i use a handy little software called "Monitorian". It adjustes screenbrightness for all my 4 PC monitors with just one software slider for all of them. It's a very neat little program and i hated having to go to monitor settings to do that. At daytime i use them pretty bright.
Those The Wall things from Samsung look amazing. I love stuff like Samsung's The Frame, which basically a The Wall in a size that fits in my living room. Having an almost completely borderless screen is just aesthetically pleasing to me. Don't go and make my TV pretty (except the screen when it is on), make it so that I don't even notice that it is there when it's switched off (I basically never use the picture gallery stuff anyway). They also calibrate nicely and easily, which is something I haven't seen HiSense panels do. Those things are a battle to get set up with some colour accuracy. Also, those Frames and Walls have wonderful cable management. Not having to plug everything into the back of the TV, but into a little box that I can stash into the cabinet is just nice. Why don't all TVs do that?
Brightness and resolution do matter in colour volume and big highlights which is why I ditch my WOLED and QD-OLED for an 8K Mini LED