Toyota Mirai review: the hydrogen car that 'urinates' 😂
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This is the Toyota Mirai!
Mat’s got his hands on the latest version of Toyota’s hydrogen fuel cell-powered saloon to see if it’s really worth considering over the best-in-class petrol, diesel & EV powered competitors out there!
To kick things off, there’s no denying that the latest generation looks much better than its predecessor. The eagle-eyed viewers out there will notice similarities with the LS upfront… And it’s no surprise, given it’s based on the same platform! Anyone who splashes out on the range-topper will also be treated to some gorgeous alloy wheels.
So it looks good, but don’t expect the Mirai to go breaking any performance records anytime soon! The hydrogen fuel cell powers an electric motor to deliver 182hp & 300Nm of torque.
So it’s not exactly sluggish, but when you consider prices start from £50,000, that’s not that far off the price of a Tesla Model 3 Performance! So does this new Toyota offer enough to turn you away from the EV class-leading Model 3?! You’ll have to stick with Mat to find out!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:45 Fuel Cell & Motor
01:34 Exterior Design
02:33 Price
03:18 Interior
05:10 Back Seats
06:40 Boot
07:27 Five Annoying Things
10:09 Five Good Things
11:43 Driving
14:01 0-60mph
14:39 Verdict
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What car should Mat buy next? Wrong answers only... 👀
Peel P50 😆👍
Fiat multipla
PT Cruiser
@@nathanb2100 agreed 😂😅
Piaggio Ape
Mat wasnt lying, he actually does have a degree in Chemistry lol
@Kishlay Anand oh that's awesome
@@_-Anthony-_ gonna believe that ? ok................
So he’s smarter than I thought
@@ClebyHerris He seems smarter than average to me.
kzhead.info/sun/pcqghq-Gh56opZs/bejne.html matt watson
I really hope hydrogen cars gets developed more in the future, I would totally own one
They won’t, they make no financial sense for personal transport v a BEV
@@ericpisch2732 correct. HFC cars are actually evs with their small battery charged by the fuel cell. The fuel cell cannot provide the instantaneous current needed for acceleration. These are complex cars with the tiny drive battery being constantly thrashed, with deep discharge. The drive battery will probably only last 100k kms. Then the fuel cell membrane will likely also need replacing in 100k kms and the other additional maintence required that pure evs do not have. A HFC car will be expensive to maintain, and likely be a throw away after 100k kms. In addtion, 3-5x more renewable electricity needs to be generated to provide the same power at the wheels for a HCF car than is needed to provide the same power at the wheels for a pure ev. And packaging is also an issue for HFC cars - all those systems need to go somewhere in the car. Then there is the infrastructure issue.
@@nordic5490 with enough research and investing going into FC cars i actually see a market for them. There hasnt been big innovations with FC cars and the reason for this is the lack of funding. Hydrogrn makes a lot of sense for trucks oder airplanes and if those things are coming i am sure cars will come too
@@makr0295 Hydrogen cars will always remain horribly inefficient, no matter how much money you throw at it.
@@Simon-dm8zv Toyota seems to want to ignore the laws of thermodynamics.. Hydrogen is a terrible option for powering cars..
The weird thing about hydrogen is it can run an electric car via fuel cell but you can also use it in an internal combustion engine with a few tweaks. Also is hybrid ICE and electric car
but since hydrogen has the tiniest atom size, its very hard to make the ice engine leak proof and plus it doesnt burn with a visible flame, it has a barely visible blue flame so its very hazardous that way to use it, thats one of the many possible reasons why they are using fuel cell, otherwise combustion of hydrogen gives a lot more energy than using the fuel cell way...
@@tanayvaishnav3888 "combustion of hydrogen gives a lot more energy" Well it certainly wastes a lot more energy. Hydrogen combustion cars are very inefficient compared to hydrogen fuel cell cars, which are themselves very inefficient compared to EVs.
And. It might be good for a cuppa!
When this technology matures a bit and hopefully more filling stations are added, it's definitely a much more progressive change from I.C.E. cars to Hydrogen. It doesn't feel like a weird move away. No need for silly power points or having to wait 'hours' to charge. I'd love it
Hydrogen trucks refuel at Flying J truck stops.
It's weird that he didn't refuel the car. Surely that would be interesting to see...
Its been on the market 10 years ? I cant find a 2nd hand one for sale in the UK , Why is that ? I've seen 1 in those 10 years. Is it really a success? look up the lifespan of the fuel tanks
No, it was a fail and the director from Toyota leading this got fired. They are a lot behind now in the electric race@@waynecartwright-js8tw
Eva aren't that bad anymore, sub-3 min to fast charge but yes it will take hours at home but people do it while they are sleeping. Hybrid cars are the more practical car right now
Look at the length of that car 🚗
Genshin?!
@Genshin lmpаct 🅥 what are you doing in here?
@@acvarlik not a real one, though
20th century american cars: that's cute
But you will be surprised boot space and cargo is limited compared to other small car
I've looked at that car online before and seriously considered it being my next car, right up until I found out I would have to drive 1500 miles to get it filled up
hydrogen stations are being built
Totally possible with it's 400 mile range lol
@@xpengfangirl7942 yeah look at Norway, the most green transport fleet in the world, they are building loads of them, oh wait, no they shut them all after one exploded
LS swap it and you will have no problems driving 1500 miles and the fuel bill will be lower
@@ericpisch2732 thanks for this news, china was worried about the sudden hydrogen hype, but it looks like it all exploded, good job
5:36 look at his face when he goes in the middle seat😂
This hydrogen car looks like a good alternative to electric cars if only we had the filling stations!
can see countries like uk and EU countries not taking this one because they're investing so much in EV infrastructure they'll want to move forward with that
@@SamJonesMediaHUDthey require less energy in the long run to sustain than hydrogen so and that ev development is way higher than fcev development.
A chemistry degree, a chartered accountant and now a motoring journalist, very diverse career
Where can i learn more about this?
@SARI not u again
@ㅁㅊ sad stalker
Yeah
Did not know this but thanks
This is like EV's 10 years ago, when there weren't any charging stations. We just have to wait for the tech to improve and become more popular.
lol hydrogen gas are older then electric cars. they are also less efficient, environmentally speaking, then a EV.
The problem is, building hydrogen fuel stations is more complicated, and more expensive, than petrol/gasoline stations. And normal fueling stations are more complicated and expensive than building out an EV charging network. I mean, you can "refuel" an EV in your own garage quite easily. It's hard to imagine hydrogen fuel cells having much of a future, without some rather major tech break throughs. I guess time will tell.
Hydrogen doesn’t make sense in passenger cars only in Planes, Ships, Lorries(let’s see how the Tesla Semi will deliver) and non electrified railways.
We need to push for more hydrogen stations
@@ahmedabdelkader2141 Thats not true making the EV battery is not good for the environment, the UK don't main source of electricity is not renewable source making inefficient. also EVs lose range quickly in hot and cold weathers and the battery degrades over time not good.
B MODE stops charge from going into the battery as it is only used to be "simulated engine braking" you can still get regenerative braking in drive.
They sell it with $15,000 of "free" hydrogen. That's enough for about 25,000 miles of driving. If you charge a Tesla model Y at home, $0.12 per kWHr, $15,000 of electricity will take the Tesla Y about 450,000 miles. So enjoy feeding that Mirai all of your money. Driving the Mirai 450,000 miles will cost you $270,000 for the Hydrogen. Of course there will be lots of other costs to keep all the fancy stuff working.
The funniest part is it's still being made from fossil fuels 😅
If i remember correctly this car has a button on the dash to release the water when ever you want, so if releasing water to driveway bothers you so much, just do it before. edit: the button can be seen at 3:52 above the vent, saying H2O
Or if you're thirsty, get someone to push the button, while you're behind the car on the ground and cupping your hands to catch the water!
@@M1LAD81 collect the water in a week time and you get a bucket of water to wash your car with it
@@RealNameNeverUsed Heh, just pipe it to windshield wiper fluid tank. Im not sure why they dont immediately drip it out from the rear of the car, and choose to store it for bigger release. alternatively do what fridges do, and pipe it to cool something. (at least my fridge pipes condensation water to a tank next to the hot compressor, and it then gets evaporated while cooling the compressor a bit) edit: if you need to know exactly how this works, fridge has like V shape at the rear, on the inside of the fridge, that pipes condensation to a tine hole.that then goes to a pipe, and what i have seen commonly, the condensation just sits on a bucket, that is cooling the compressor, sits right next to it, mine is a bucket, specifically designed to surround the compressor , or more commonly for getting rid of this water. bet they did a lot of testing if it was possible for that bucket to overflow, nope. has never happened for me. if you have absolutely horrible water/air density, and see your fridge leaking water you can plug it in your fridge to have all the water inside the fridge. if it is plugged you see water in bottom of any fridge.
@@M1LAD81 on a serious note i think that water is bad to drink because it is very pure
When we are all at war over fresh water owners of these cars will make hard cash
I think Mat should show the keys when he reviews the car, just out of interest.
Horn and key should be shown
yes he should
*gets car stolen because of a screenshot of the key*
7:50 - I've never had a car that does it differently and I dislike it being the way you say you'd like it to be; All in one spot. The trip meter and the odometer are settings I don't want to risk touching by accident and thus having them separated from the controls I touch all the time makes perfect sense.
Today I actually saw one with the same RED color and it did pump out steam at the bottom! I quickly noticed it when I realize the car didn't had exhaust in the back. Very interesting car 🚗
Mirai in Kanji→未来 「未」(mi) means "still", "never", "yet"... 「来」(rai) means "come" Therefore Mirai means "something has not come yet" ＝future
Hydrogen cells cars
Mirai Trunks
Thank you for the language lesson 👍.
Or my girlfriend 💀
The car that "Never Comes"
So cool that Mat has a chemistry degree! Goes with his natural chemistry.
Does he?
@@shithead4767 Yes, University of Edinburgh.
`the old Miria looked like a prius that was build in minecraft` best line on the internet 🤣
I’m from Los Angeles, and we actually have pretty decent hydrogen fuel infrastructure and it’s pretty much a max of like 10-15 miles between stations in my specific area. So, this car is pretty much devoid of downsides for me. I honestly think I may buy it, because I’m getting really concerned about my carbon emissions since I currently drive a challenger SRT which is shitting itself rn since it’s relatively old and I’ve put about 160k miles on it (I do a LOT of driving because it’s basically my therapy at this point).
I hear you on the driving as therapy, the open road can really clear the mind! If reducing emissions is your goal, you should know hydrogen in the US is mainly made from Methane / fracked Natural Gas. It can be made from electricity, and that electricity can be green / renewable, but, it takes 3x more electricity to move the Mirai than is does to move a battery electric, so, it's quite wasteful if powered by electricity, (which, it generally isn't, it's usually powereded by fossil fuels, mostly methane) - the CO2 emissions of FCEV are hight compared to EVs, and often higher than diesel or even gasoline. I swung through LA on my Canada / US EV road trip, after driving from Vancouver to Austin.
160K..? Has anything broken down so far and what year is it?
Buy it and start a KZhead channel.
@@user-pn3im5sm7k 2017, I had to replace the clutch at one point a little unexpectedly but other than that no. Nothing has broken or worn out sooner than it was expected to, all maintenance and part replacements have been pretty on schedule up until recently. I’ve had to start changing oil more frequently and it’s getting worse gas mileage so I think the engine is starting to crap out and I’m probably gonna get something new.
@@brushlessmotoring I’m kind of betting on Japan in that vein. The Japanese car companies are starting to put a lot into hydrogen and expanding global production and shipping infrastructure as well as green production of hydrogen. Assuming the Mirai has the longevity of other Toyotas I expect to be driving it into the mid 30s, additionally it fits my lifestyle far better than most BEV’s which is going to be the key to fostering gasoline alternatives in general. BEV’s just don’t fit everyone’s lifestyle and use case for multiple reasons and so it’s been a growing idea recently that we will need multiple sustainable vehicle propulsion technologies in play at once in order to remove out reliance on fossil fuels. The main 2 current contenders being BEV’s and FCEV’s, but a lot of institutions estimate we’d need 3-4 different technologies to fill all necessary niches in the transportation sector.
I hope more manufacturers start making hydrogen cars, seems a much better solution than electric.
They are not financially viable, in a perfect system the fuel costs 5x that of putting the electricity into a BEV. One of the hydrogen stations in Norway blew up.
Until there's a cost effective way of producing hydrogen, it will never happen. Electrolysis of water and steam reforming (reacting hydrocarbons/fossil fuels with water to produce hydrogen) are both energy intensive AND burn a lot of fossil fuels to achieve.
@@vangledosh They need to add Sodium, this the key, Sodium Hydrogen will work.
I would actually like to have both available.
A hydrogen powered car *is* an electric car. It substitutes a hydrogen fuel cell for a drive battery. It does still have a small battery in the drive train, but that acts a buffer.
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Enjoy!
doug demuro did one
Doug did one
@@randomdude245 he said proper review
Mat is the Stick of Truth personified, how dare car manufacturers send their cars to get the bashing.
I keep considering one, I have a 180 mile a day commute and there are loads of hydrogen filling stations around my work. An EV the time to charge would be a major pain for me. I have other cars so I wouldn’t need this aside from working and the incentives here in the US knock almost 32% off the price of the car AND they give you another $15,000 in fuel credit.
Wow, sounds like a no brainer then. Only challenge might be maintenance? If Toyota dealerships know how to even fix them…
That's a bizarre commute distance. You should move or change jobs. That's like 4 hours wasted driving every day?
@@logitech4873 I sit on the freeway with millions who do it every day… I know the pro EV crowd does not care about anyone else but themselves but million of people have HUGE commutes in the US, especially California.
@@alexsystems2001 Sounds like a true car hell. I don't understand how you can deal with work days that long. How many years have you spent on that road? Scary. The average American commutes ~40 miles per day, which is already absurd, but you apparently commute almost 5x that amount? I don't understand how you find it acceptable to waste so much of your life like that. It just sounds absolutely insufferable. Where I live, the average commute is 23km (14 miles)
I'm gonna say it, Hydrogen still has potential in the auto industry, primarily in the commercial sector and for pickup trucks maybe. I mean hydrogen is just so much better for long haul semi-trucks than electric which is better for civilians
Agree. I hate charging times and weight of the batteries but this is very similar to the internal combustion engine. I like it.
JCB are developing an internal combustion engine that runs on Hydrogen for that very purpose. There's a vid on it on Harry's Garage.
Hydrogen is the only tech that has potential. Evs will die out if they don’t upgrade from lithium ion.
Only if it is ‘green’ hydrogen produced from water with 100% renewable electricity. ‘Blue’ hydrogen from natural gas has a bigger CO2 footprint than just burning the gas in a home boiler or in a power station. The reliance on supply chains and complicated infrastructure is also a major downside. Maybe if Toyota committed to building infrastructure in the way Tesla built their network of chargers we’d have more enthusiasm for hydrogen...or maybe not
@@harrypsaunders It's a bit difficult to imagine that being practical, no matter how good your tech is an IC engine will be far less efficient than a fuel cell and loses most of the advantages of using hydrogen in the first place. But they must have their reasons.
my whole family is over 6.4´´ and we have a audi a3... yes we have all sat in it at one, but we need to bend front :P
Damn... you're whole family so tall 😲
6”4 yeah sure are they heavyweight boxers too?
@@niccolomachiavelli8763 You think that's impossible or something?
are you a masochist? is your whole family a masochist? Damn dude give your and your family's backs a relief
Jeez I’m 179cm and I struggle in my A4… I don’t know how you guys do it!
0:00 the Doug intro🤣🤣
“Has a little wee wee in the back….there it is” lol 😂
Matt, you didn’t mention one of the main advantages of a fuel cell car is that you can fill it up in minutes, like a petrol powered car. You don’t have to wait ages as you do in an electric car.
if you find a gasstation!
If I'm not mistaken, the hydrogen station has to build up pressure again after refuelling which could mean that you have to wait 20 minutes before you can start filling up your car. A Tesla supercharger will recharge a car in the same time.
few minutes to fill, few hours to get there and back..
Refuelling time would be an advantage if a big refuelling network were available but for most people for most trips they never have to wait to refuel their electric car - it starts full every day
That’s right, you can spend that time driving to and from the hydrogen filling station.
Ooo this looks far more conventional/better than the old model, which looked rather bizarre :). I can't wait to see other makers like BMW release their own hydrogen models :). And that title though 😆. Nice content :)
Won’t happen
I'm pretty sure BMW are making a hydrogen version of the latest x5 though
that's possible to think about BMW making these cars because they had already worked together for new Toyota Supra
It actually looks beautiful tbh
Looks great...........but after this video hydrogen fuel cell can fuk off.
the ending is just hilarious...
Very nice view from the digital rear mirror.
Hydrogen fuel cell explanation by professor mat Watson 😂😂
Mat actually has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry.
All we're missing is the lab coat that he used for his Range Rover review
"The Sound of Science.." Watson and Mattfunkel........Ok, I'll get my coat!
2:57 Mat you've got some stuff on you're fingers haha
It would be really great if they made hydrogen fuel cell plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. That way you could have all of the convenience of each and avoid any range anxiety.
But that's what a hydrogen powered car is! The hydrogen is converted to electricity in the fuel cell, which then drives the electric motor........ A hydrogen powered car is actually an electric car.
@@Brian-om2hh But you can't plug it in and use cheap electricity from the grid instead of expensive hydrogen for short trips.
@@701983 Agreed, so probably better just to go with a BEV.....
Fun fact: Mirai means ''future'' in Japanese
みらい, absolutely.
未来、absolutely
Which is ironic in that hydrogen fuel cell cars don't have one.
@@timaustin2000 at least much more of a future than battery EV’s
Remove the fun part...
Does it have a “wee” button so you can evacuate its bladder at will? In winter you wouldn’t want to have a sheet of ice in the driveway from your incontinent car.
Yeh it actually does
@@musashah7428mas Can you use it while driving? Like could you potentially slick your enemies behind you on icy roads?
@@ccalvinn lmao I'm curious now
@@lankannigga9737 same here lol
best opening description from mat ever ':-)
This is the perfect car. Besides the beautiful styling, luxurious interior and Toyota reliability, using hydrogen to power the electric motors eliminates the lengthy battery charging required in other electric cars. Of course, the problem is the lack of hydrogen filling stations. But there were few battery charging stations when electric cars first appeared, so I am optimistic that hydrogen stations will multiply with time. Then we'll have an electric car that is capable of doing long trips without multiple hours spent at the battery chargers. I can't wait!
You'll probably have to. We have an electric grid, not a hydrogen grid, and still no scalable way to efficiently create and store hydrogen anyway. A rapid charger costs a few grand, a hydrogen pump costs 2 million and takes up a lot of space. Hydrogen isn't happening, there's no economic way.
Most ev charging globally is done at home atm. Many new model evs can already charge 100kms in just 5 minutes, 200kms in 10mins at certain chargers. The average daily commute (by car) here in Oz is only 42 kms (30 miles in the US, 8 Miles in the UK). For a 400km range ev, this means the average commuter only needs to charge every 10days. Why not charge once a week at a major shopping mall whilst you do your shopping ?. You can recharge that 42kms in
@@nordic5490yes, everybody is very excited and lured by luxury but fail to see the real truth behind.
The Mirai is without a doubt, the best looking Toyota today, if this is a conventional ev, it could be a serious contender to Model S.
Infrastructure says no no.
Had same thought, about the design
It is a Lexus grade design
That would be cool if Toyota finally made EVs… (I know there’s the Lexus already)
@@superfatbobtail yeah they could have switched out all the badges and it would almost work as a lexus
The Hyundai Tucson has a jump start function for when the 12V battery runs down due to the car sitting idle during a Covid lockdown etc. Good to see Toyota have the same thinking.
Audi ad in Toyota video Audi:stocks 💹💹
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I've already ride this car in Berlin, in taxi! pretty nice car!
@Not RickRoll 👇 you ain't getting me, not this time 😤
Cool
Would you say it is fuel efficient compared to your normal fuel?
Mat used to be an accountant, has a degree in chemistry and now he’s a journalist. This guy has many talents
Where does he say he has a degree in chemistry?
MAT IS THE BEST KZheadR FOR THIS KIND OF VEHICLES💖👌👌KEEP IT UP AND STAY SAFE
All cars with Air Con also leave a puddle when parked. No issue, it’s just water.
this car leaves it when you want it to leave it ! it is a special button for this Mat does not showed this in the video!
These videos are amazing. Love the vids Matt
Thanks!
This is future.. Much efficient and practical.. Give it time to grow, you will see.. Btw, good luck EV for long range..
Solid state batteries will solve the range issue for EV's...... Oh, and hydrogen is far from efficient. The Mirai runs at around 23 to 24% efficiency, which is *less* than some ICE's....
@@Brian-om2hh Still, better than EV craps 🤣
Matt is correct that Toyota evolves its 'projects' through to production and sales (not its constant engine refinements and hybrid development until it is ready) and this explains why the Mirai is a niche product, expensive but individual cars will last for ages. Mr Toyoda plainly said years ago that the future would be hydrogen IC -- as his grandfather had tested in the 1930s -- but that EVs would be a necessary experiment for a single economic generation (= 20 years from manufacture to landfill or recycling). Sino-Japanese economists undertook a vast parallel survey of motor vehicle needs many years ago which predicted the EV stampede (especially in the USA and western Europe) but a majority of vehicles being hybrids, using petroleum in the short term but quickly changing to hydrogen of various "colors" or a hydrogen carrier such as ammonia. The Mirai's hydrogen cell experiment was a necessity for the industry for trial in the real world and when gaseous hydrogen pumps become common in service stations these will be able to be topped up alongside hydrogen hybrid IC vehicles. Hydrogen fuels (quite a variety including ammonia hydrogen on heavy vehicles and plant equipment where sustained raw power is less important than responsiveness) will be delivered to filling stations in the same was as is 'normal' fuels, whereas EV chargers are a different matter and (mostly oil) company owners of these stations in the USA have proved to be unenthusiastic. This is partly due to electric companies being inconsistent and failing to maintain lines. The USA does not have a grid system as such. States legislation and red tape also hold up EV charging as a viable nationwide prospect. Hydrogen fuels distribution will be largely co-owned by existing fuel companies in the USA but there will be more freedom of enterprise in Europe and Asia. Hydrogen of different grades ('colors') is a byproduct of many industrial processes on all inhabited continents and some surprising countries use their climates and resources to make gaseous hydrogen as a primary product. The really big producers, however, are Russia and the CIS, China, Indonesia, Spain, some Nordic states, Australia and Brazil. Canada finances many of these producers as production at home is a challenge. Japan buys hydrogen from Russia and currently disputed islands between the two countries are being considered as energy producing co-hubs. The thinking here seems to include fueling vessels for the Arctic seaways with grades of hydrogen being byproducts for domestic and export markets and is diplomatically advanced. The ships are likely to use ammonia or a blend to fulfil spill agreements in a delicate ecosystem.
when a Lexus LS and a Bob fish has a child: Toyota Mirai.
Or an AMG GT 4 Door
Wow. Mat's hard work is paying off quite well. Couldn't help but notice the z fold he's been using for quite sometimes isn't just a normal one...but actually a thom browne edition. Keep up the great work Mat..👌 Hard work truly pays
Considering how slow the battery technology seems to evolve, I truly believe hidrogen cars are the future.
Batteries can evolve, but you can’t really change the amount of hydrogen you can store in a car, it already takes load of space in this car
@@jonasweber9408 I can say the same about lithium batteries.
@@OmegaGamer04 but why would you say that? Energy density is rising years after years
@@jonasweber9408 Batteries need huge amount of resources to manufacture and they degrade over time / very expensive to replace. If the whole UK would switch to electric cars, that would use up all the Lithium production in the world. And this is just one country with 0.5 percent of the world population.
@@todanrg3 oil needs a huge amount of energy to extract, to refine, to transport and to distribute. ICE engines and parts like gearboxes degrade over time/ are expensive to replace. If the UK was eating in one day all of the rice in the world there wouldn’t be any left and that’s just 0,5 of the world population. You get the idea, England won’t change all of their cars in one day… There’s lithium in Ireland if people want to produce more locally.
The cuts in the roof for the back seats killed me. It looks like a DIY fix for a tiny car
I don't know how it drives, how reliable it is or how many features it has but godamnn does it look good
Nvm just saw the nose, it's ugly
Lol front end is hideous 🤢🤮
@@karankhatana9528 from what i know, the hydrogen car is a bit more expensive and a bit hard to fill it up if theres like one or two fuel stations for hydrogen cars.
@@vehielphantom4116 yea it's honestly pointless, you don't get the convenience of gas stations every 10 miles and the assurance that if your car breaks down any local mechanic can fix it, you don't get the performance you get from electric cars nor is the operating cost anywhere as cheap as electric cars, and on top of that did I mention you're literally sitting on top of enough hydrogen to blow up a sub surban house. It's literally the worst of both worlds
Matts definitely got the carbon fibre stick of truth on vibrate in his back pocket 😂
Rimac's clever marketing strategy😂
Bmw ix5 hydrogen now in production for a small run. Hope Mat can get his hands on it next spring...
Wrong. It's not in "production". BMW built 100 examples as a trial/test. No orders are being taken for production runs.....
I am thinking that was this a car video or a funny drama scenes compilation 😂
I really have a soft spot for the Mirai and Clarity fuel cells, they strike me as ideal comfortable long-distance cars, but I understand the filling infrastructure is just an absolute nightmare to deal with. I was thinking during this video that it would be nice to have a hydrogen plug-in hybrid, something with ~100 miles of plug-in range but then another 200-250 miles of hydrogen on board more as a range extender. Seems like a smart application for a plug-in hybrid since every fuel cell is already a hybrid and hydrogen fuelling can leave you stranded but finding a plug isn't as hard.
It needs investment. It wasn't that long ago there were barely any fuel stations. Hydrogen is the next logical step if you ask me
@@chappy2121 it's the production of hydrogen which is the main issue: it either uses natural gas and there are questionable carbon capturing claims, or uses a lot of electricity for electrolysis.
DMFC or other hydrocarbon FC would be a better option, at least outside Japan
Fuelcell make more sense for semi trucks and buses that travel long distances every day, electric is better, cheaper for in-city driving.
@@andys844 yeah that's the issue. We'll never ever get away from the carbon issue though I don't think. That new e10 fuel is supposed to save 750k Tons of c02 per year, my mate had a pipe blow on a fridge plant last year half a ton of refrigerant yet 782k tons of c02 in approx 1min. Yet the ecos still demonise engines. Weird 🤔
Idk why I just love this 😂😂 5:45
When I purchased my first EV close to 8 years ago, the market price was extremely low. I paid a mere $6995 for a car that was barely 3 years old and in pristine condition... From a dealer! The other day I checked the bluebook value and it is all the way down to $6985. Who cares, right? We're looking at a video of a Toyota Murai. Do some research and you will find the same thing going on with this car. At least here in the U.S., these cars are selling REALLY cheap and the ones I've seen are in really good condition and have low miles. My theory on why my EV was so cheap was that nobody wanted, or was afraid to buy one. Maybe we have the same thing going on here? I'm not in the market for another car but if I were, I would definitely be considering one of these. A close friend of mine bought one a couple of years ago and he loves it (of course we live within a couple of miles of a hydrogen station so, that helps).
Refueling Hydrogen car will not only be inconvenient, as there are few in between refueling stations, but it will cost you arm and leg to do so. Its more like a printer, you can get one derp cheap, cheaper than it costs to produce one, but you will pay 10x more on ink. Good quality BEV's are not that cheap and those tend to keep their value over the years.
@@Zripas I live pretty close to a few stations so if I used it like I do my EV, driving to work and back, around town, etc., then fueling would not be an issue. BUT, now that I've looked into the cost of hydrogen.. my daughter's Chevy Colorado works out to be about the same cost per mile.. no thanks. To be fair though, since the price of hydrogen fuel has almost tripled since crooked Joe took over, it might be reasonable to expect the price to come back down in the near future in which case, these cars start making sense again. I'll be watching.
@@mb_a5383Hydrogen cost has increased worldwide. It has nothing to do with your presidents. Same with gasoline and diesel costs.
6:10 That is actually the safety disconnect for the high voltage battery that is placed behind the seats.
New carwow drinking game: Every time you hear 'click on the pop out banner' take a drink :)
Way ahead of you buddy
I drive this car in California and I love it!
I have tried the previous version. It's good enough, but a bit too expensive
@@Has7DCT The sticker price is way too high, but considering all the government incentives and $20k cashback from Toyota, it was the best deal I ever got for a car.
Is it cheaper to drive than a gasoline car?
@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 Toyota gives you debit card with $15k for hydrogen. So, until you spend this money is free driving. If you have to pay from your pocket, is more expensive than gasoline car. About $90 cost the full tank of hydrogen and last for up to 400 miles but in real life about 300 miles.
@@excusemehello5904 that really is more expensive than a gasoline car. How much does a litre of gasoline(petrol) cost in usa?
12:33 im guessing it was a good call by toyota to use the chassis from the LS/Crown for this thing. Those are luxury barges, afterall. Meant for wafting and not hooning.
I dig the design of it. Might bought it, when it depreciated a lot, for a car project.
“Meaty enough when you’re going quicker” Wish Mat was like Arun because that was the perfect time to pull a “that’s what she said”. Still love Mat’s natural charm doe,unlike no other.❤️
The energy costs to refine it, make it, transport it, and then store it will bring the same problems as Petrol. Electric Cars don't have that problem, you can charge at home without the need to create anything. There's too many gases needed to make it work. £65k for that when you can get the amazing Hyundai Ioniq 5 or KIA EV6 for £40k?
You can store hydrogen while producing it when there's sunshine or wind and use it later...
Also this is a lot better than any eV
@@viksusername that costs money, my point is, your paying an outlet cost for refining, transportation and storage. A cost that Electric Car don't have, so the fact that it costs £70 to fill the tank will never benefit end users. And your using energy and fuel for all those 3 things above. The danger is when more options become available like Aluminium Air/ink cartridge formats, they'll be 100% recycled and far a cheaper cleaner alternative.
@@chriscollins550 I can't see how that works out, refining will use up a lot of energy resources, so will storage. The costs of filling up are 6 times more than what it would cost you to top up your EV. So yeah, not understanding how this is better.
@@apollian as more people get them the cheaper it will become to do. Storage is no different to petrol now and some places are converting old fuel tanks to take hygegon. No with the cost of electricity going up from the suppliers also the UK don't have enough green energy sources and it's still burning oil or coal to power them. On top of that the national grid isn't up to the task. It wasn't that long ago we was still having power cuts at around 17.00 in the UK just by people coming home and putting on the kettle! You see what would happen if 60% of the UK put their car's on charge after coming home from work. Then there's the problem of disposing of the battery. They haven't come up with a Environmental way of disposing them at all. All making of the battery isn't environmental good at all.
Good review they need to promote on TV and have more fuel hydrogen stations
I like the knobby bit!
Can You Please Make a Video On 1:1200 hp Lambo vs 1600hp Gtr vs Rimac Nevera 2:Red Bull f1 Car vs Model s plaid
One day... Hopefully!
@@carwow Thank You
Looks like a family friendly supra
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I never know Matt hava a chimistry degree. Such a surprise!
Mini Cooper one🎉 My favourite logo enemy😅
4:50 Matt's insult on Apple! HAHAHAHA. Up Samsung gang!
I'm Huawei but ok
@Naya Khaleesi ayo wrong link
James May is ALWAYS right. Never forget that!
Lol
😂😂😂 I really enjoy your own thoughts, like "Toyoya Prius dedigned in Minecraft" 😂 or shark front😂,
Your place is very lucky because there is this model car ... In our country, Malaysia does not have this model ... I hope one day this model enters the Malaysian market.
My dog : finally a worthy opponent. Car : am I a joke to you ?
🤔 ok......
Sounds like hydrogen is a bad idea complex mechanics to service vs an electric car. Limited infrastructure and not cheap.
You forget the lithium problem of evs
@@thebrowns5337 it still has batteries. It's an EV with added 10,000psi bomb and plumbing.
I’m curious if your in the camp that some are where they feel it should be a Lexus rather than a Toyota? (They primarily cite the styling and price)
Its nice to see a Toyota Mirai. The only things missing are the PV panels.
Commercial H production is currently derived from fossil fuels, mostly Gas. Renewable H production can be done but current tech is not commercially viable at scale. FCEV's do have a place though, specifically with trucks, busses and shipping to stop the use of dirty diesel and bunker fuel but for personal cars, not yet.
Better than electric cars in the long run thou
We should have gone heavily nuclear power 30 years ago for many reasons. Plenty of cheap power would have made Hydrogen viable as production efficiency becomes less relevant. These vehicles are a far better long term solution than EV's dragging around a ton of battery
@@Spartan969 compared to petrol engines which have 30-35% efficiency.
It's currently derived using fossil fuel power (blue hydrogen) as the fossil fuel bit makes it fast and easy at present (and no doubt big oil is lobbying hard for this as they will need to transition their finances over time). Green hydrogen is happening alongside and should be the ultimate goal though. It is fully acheivable.
@@ndzalie not by any metric.
Hydrogen FCVs too are not entirely zero emissions, but additional user friendliness and suitability for long distance travel, makes them a more desirable option for consumers than BEVs. All it needs is as many hydrogen filling stations as there are EV charging stations and a more carbon-neutral hydrogen production method.
The vehciles themselves are entirely zero emission. It is the production of hydrogen that may not be - but the same applies to battery cars.
@@Sniperkaj Exactly my point, but it’s the usability of hydrogen in the sense you can fill up your car with hydrogen in 3 mins and there’s little if any worries about range anxiety. It’s a shame the packaging as highlighted here, sucks.
@@Sniperkaj nope. HFC cars are actually evs with their small battery charged by the fuel cell. The fuel cell cannot provide the instantaneous current needed for acceleration. These are complex cars with the tiny drive battery being constantly thrashed, with deep discharge. The drive battery will probably only last 100k kms. Then the fuel cell membrane will likely also need replacing in 100k kms and the other additional maintence required that pure evs do not have. A HFC car will be expensive to maintain, and likely be a throw away after 100k kms. In addtion, 3-5x more renewable electricity needs to be generated to provide the same power at the wheels for a HCF car than is needed to provide the same power at the wheels for a pure ev. And packaging is also an issue for HFC cars - all those systems need to go somewhere in the car. Then there is the infrastructure issue.
I know they are complicated - I'm a fuel cell system designer myself :) The battery is similar to an gasoline-hybrid car, and thus not an issue. It is not correct the membrane only lasts 100k km. 1M km is easily acheivable. You are correct in that a fuel cell car is expensive to maintain, compared to an EV. You are also correct in that 3-5x more electricity is needed to produce the hydrogen. However, this can be done when there is an excess of electricity, at night for example Finally, the reason for the somewhat small back seat and trunk is, as you say, that right now packaging is an issue.
"Not the most hi tech" actually sounds like an advantage to me. Especially if the alternative is capacitive buttons and strips.
Great review style.
1:43 Mat, are you sure that's a stick of truth? 🤔
It is. It seems you missed some episodes...
Lighter than a similar sized EV? Are you talking about exterior or interior size? Because if it's the latter, the Mirai should be compared to a Renault Zoe.
I was just thinking about this, and with a FCEV you’re getting way less utility than a BEV. a massive compromise on cabin space, headroom, foot wells, boot space and no frunk. All in a larger package. Very disappointing - FCEVs need to innovate and iterate much more quickly if they expect to compete with BEVs, because this isn’t efficient in cost to buy or run, or on space. £50k sold at a loss. Petrol and diesel cars with a 10% profit, and Tesla cars with a 20% profit and growing. The economics don’t look good. Judging from the comments, there’s lots of interest and demand for FCEV so it needs more investment. More cars, more fuelling infrastructure… then maybe it won’t fail. But as I say, it doesn’t have a very bright future right now, unfortunately.
Please to learn you come from Walsall, Mat. I do too (well, Leamore, to be precise). Just goes to show all the best people come from the Blackcountry 😀👍
This is beautiful and Astonishing car that is NOT getting enough attention…. this vehicle is incredible and very advanced. Toyota does it again !
It’s a dead dog
Produce a car that has 0 advantages over an EV is what they do. You know how filling up works? With a few cars in line you gonna wait very long. But go ahead, put your money where your mouth is.
I still don’t understand why this car exists, it’s cool but so impractical and expensive. - James May makes the car cooler and that’s about it.
You could say the same about early battery electric vehicles
the same goes to the electric cars during early stage
@@RonanB99 not really. Even at the very beginning your were able to charge your car at home even if it took over a day to charge. Hydrogen is very expensive to handle and maintenance.
@@propstoyou9792 there’s a big difference between electric and hydrogen. Just because they provide similar electric currents, doesn’t make them any closer before, now and in the future.
@@GamerofGamesGG HFC cars are actually evs with their small battery charged by the fuel cell. The fuel cell cannot provide the instantaneous current needed for acceleration. These are complex cars with the tiny drive battery being constantly thrashed, with deep discharge. The drive battery will probably only last 100k kms. Then the fuel cell membrane will likely also need replacing in 100k kms and the other additional maintence required that pure evs do not have. A HFC car will be expensive to maintain, and likely be a throw away after 100k kms. In addtion, 3-5x more renewable electricity needs to be generated to provide the same power at the wheels for a HCF car than is needed to provide the same power at the wheels for a pure ev. And packaging is also an issue for HFC cars - all those systems need to go somewhere in the car. Then there is the infrastructure issue.
I remember when there are just 11 EV charging station in all of England.... might cost the same as petrol to fill... but it doesnt spew poison
I just bought a Mirai about two weeks ago and absolutely love it!! I also have a 2016 Prius.
Is it fuel cell?
@@carhub6373 yes, all Mirai’s are fuel-cell.
@@AUSTiNKiNSER congo bro , what's your thoughts on future of hydrogen vs ev
@@carhub6373 I definitely think hydrogen has a place in the market, battery-electric vehicles versus fuel-cell electric vehicles are no doubtably more efficient in terms of power transfer, but hydrogen wins on fueling time and in some cases, range… for now. I’m really hoping for more hydrogen stations, and lots of the general public here in Cali don’t even seem to know this car exists.
How much is costs for kg of hydrogen and how much kg of hydrogen you need to fully load the vehicle.
Matt : I really believe that no one matches your level of hardwork and the effort, ideas, you put while presenting any automobile.
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15:05 Best finish 😂😂😂
Is it possible to charge the battery say via solar from home then use the hydro to extend the range?
@"supercharger noise": It's the compressor, which pushes air through the filters into the fuel cells.
I really like the design, especially the front. Kinda reminds me of a Lexus.
Because it is... The new Mirai is based on their Lexus sedans.