Scotland ‘will find another way to independence’, says Sturgeon after Supreme Court defeat

2022 ж. 22 Қар.
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No establishment, Westminster or otherwise, will ever silence the voice of the Scottish people - Nicola Sturgeon has told crowds here outside Holyrood.
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The First Minister said the Supreme Court's decision not to allow the Scottish Government to hold a second independence referendum showed that the UK was "not a voluntary partnership of nations".
In Westminster - Rishi Sunak welcomed what he called a "clear and definitive ruling" on the issue.
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  • Thanks for keeping the comments open, unlike ITV

    @craigarmit7882@craigarmit7882 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes I agree 👍🏻

      @jimmartin8950@jimmartin8950 Жыл бұрын
    • I agree

      @John-pp9pc@John-pp9pc Жыл бұрын
    • itv never opens it's comments, sorry to burst your sense of oppression.

      @user-fg8it6kp3e@user-fg8it6kp3e Жыл бұрын
    • @@user-fg8it6kp3e you should be sorry. Nobody likes oppressors. They're a scourge on our land which is why scotland will get out. The pressure will boil over...

      @Enavor@Enavor Жыл бұрын
    • @@John-pp9pcScotland England border should move south to River Kent River Tees🎉🎉

      @matpk@matpk Жыл бұрын
  • Imagine if the British government had to “seek permission”, from Brussels to hold the Brexit referendum…

    @socialgadfly5305@socialgadfly5305 Жыл бұрын
    • The acts of Union 1707 require permission from all UK members for one to leave

      @Tay12345@Tay12345 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Tay12345 That doesn't sound like a voluntary union.

      @gerardflynn3899@gerardflynn3899 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gerardflynn3899 they signed the paper

      @Tay12345@Tay12345 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Tay12345 Where does it say that?

      @carraw3501@carraw3501 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gerardflynn3899 it isn’t, it’s an English Tory monopoly game. Brexit ensured the divergence of Scotland and England. That is what they wanted (Brexit) and they got it, but expect Scotland to accept it? Never will any sensible Scottish person accept the damage caused largely by racists and xenophobes in little England.

      @socialgadfly5305@socialgadfly5305 Жыл бұрын
  • Scotland can leave the Union if it asks to do so. However, it is not allowed to ask. Got it.

    @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
    • its part of a union England cant just leave either

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • They been asked and given an answer already.. This woman has no respect or regard for her fellow countrymen..

      @Forestfalcon1@Forestfalcon1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rogerbenfield2789 Yes they can. They just need to vote in an independence candidate. They vote for the vast majority of MPs

      @gaz9957@gaz9957 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gaz9957 they have to get 51% of the vote, last time the snp got 31% of the vote. no mandate no independence referendum its done.

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • Come off it, the Scottish people were asked 8 years ago if they wanted independence and they said no. Sturgeon then immediately set about trying to get another referendum because she can't accept reality. So let's say she got her wish, the UK spent another fortune it doesn't have on another referendum and it comes back the same no answer...guess what Sturgeon will do. Yep, start organising another referendum until she gets the result SHE wants, not the people of Scotland. Do you think this is actually about Scotland for Sturgeon? Because it's not. This is about Sturgeon wanting to be able to say she's a world leader. An ego trip. Nothing more. Perhaps she should move to a different country.

      @tjmarx@tjmarx Жыл бұрын
  • I laugh when I hear politicians saying that the issue of independence is not important compared to the other issues Scottish people face. This is not the case. If more than half the country thinks it doesn't belong in the Union, then this is the most important issue facing Scotland.

    @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
    • Also only a few years ago the same politicians were endlessly talking about how important democracy and our independence from the EU were. … doesn’t seem like a majority will for independence is so important now.

      @Jonpoo1@Jonpoo1 Жыл бұрын
    • The snp have never had 50% of the vote as was pointed out to Krankie at the news conference yesterday, but she won't remember that...........

      @alecgrant2261@alecgrant2261 Жыл бұрын
    • We had our vote. You are perpetuating a lie. Brave heart wasn't real, get a job.

      @positivevibesrfc@positivevibesrfc Жыл бұрын
    • "More than half" since when is 40-45% more than half? Lol.. See Nicola would be better off concentrating on important stuff like sorting Scotland's pathetic education system you have just demonstrated so well...

      @cw8867@cw8867 Жыл бұрын
    • @@cw8867 I am Scottish, thankfully the majority are not idiots. Most of us love the UK and being part of a bigger family of people. We want life to be better for all. There are a jobless and selfish few who are a vocal minority. Rule Britannia and God save the King.

      @positivevibesrfc@positivevibesrfc Жыл бұрын
  • they are called the Scottish National party. They are 100% pro independence and always will be its not hard

    @elaine8417@elaine8417 Жыл бұрын
    • The Scottish NASTY party !!

      @englishcple@englishcple Жыл бұрын
    • They keep winning elections too!

      @RobBCactive@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын
    • SNP are Nazis

      @chrismitchell4808@chrismitchell4808 Жыл бұрын
    • @@squamd5777 because the EU is highly beneficial, look how the RoI interest's were defended against Tory pie in the sky, that everyone with a clue was going to fail

      @RobBCactive@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын
    • There’s nothing nationalist about them. More like scottish communist party

      @FesteringSmegma@FesteringSmegma Жыл бұрын
  • Imagine telling an abused spouse that they are forced to remain with their abuser.

    @Atom.Storm.@Atom.Storm. Жыл бұрын
    • Abuser ?? Have you not heard of the Barnet formula

      @grahamhowat8387@grahamhowat8387 Жыл бұрын
    • @@grahamhowat8387 If you feel this is true and that Scotland couldn't empower itself and use its own resources to enrich itself, You should probably be pro SNP . We are obviously a terrible drain on the UK. It's not enough to just feel good about dominating someone else. It's just not on anymore.. We are not trying to end freedom of movement with the UK. Don't worry, people will still be able to come on holiday here. We're just trying to encourage European companies to set up here..

      @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • ????? What a load of brainless rubbish.

      @adrianrouse5148@adrianrouse5148 Жыл бұрын
    • 2014.

      @johns3421@johns3421 Жыл бұрын
  • "Liberties aren't given, they are taken." --Aldous Huxley

    @Enderwiggan1@Enderwiggan1 Жыл бұрын
  • Let them go, they want to leave let them leave. That is self determination.

    @VeeShenge@VeeShenge Жыл бұрын
    • @@BritainforBritain if that is true then a referendum should be called and it would confirm your view on this.

      @VeeShenge@VeeShenge Жыл бұрын
    • @@VeeShenge we had one and said NO remember........🤔

      @David-qk7lc@David-qk7lc Жыл бұрын
    • @@David-qk7lc 2014 is a lifetime ago, almost 10 years. Since then a lot had changed including Brexit so the Calculus has changed.

      @VeeShenge@VeeShenge Жыл бұрын
    • @@VeeShenge Brexit has made it less likely people in Scotland would vote to leave the UK. If Scots wouldn't vote for independence when they would have remained in political union with the UK - they're not going to vote for independence to be out of political union with the UK.

      @Iazzaboyce@Iazzaboyce Жыл бұрын
    • @@Iazzaboyce okay if that is the case sure, let them have their say. 10 years is really a long time. Especially if the calls for independence have not stopped and they continue to vote for the party which supports and promotes indipendence. If you are sure the referendum should be fine then

      @VeeShenge@VeeShenge Жыл бұрын
  • Imagine if England had to ask the rest of the UK for permission on an independence referendum.

    @Superfantastictop10@Superfantastictop10 Жыл бұрын
    • Aye, then space ship lands . FFS

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
    • It literally would have to get permission from the UK government in the exact same way, you complete and utter 🤡🤡😂😂😂😂😂. England has never been allowed a referendum on independence, Scotland has... you got any more ignorant comments to post? 😂🤡

      @BeBe-vh4ry@BeBe-vh4ry Жыл бұрын
    • Very nice put! there'd be a spanner in the works for sure*

      @turboedsloth2000@turboedsloth2000 Жыл бұрын
    • imagine asking for a referendum every 8 years and wasting tax payers money pushing it

      @Danzo1212@Danzo1212 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Danzo1212Immagine to promise to Scotland to stay in the UK "union" because of EU and after few months you (England) broke that promise and decided for all UK to get out from EU! There is only Democracy for England, isn't it!?!?!

      @drsilviaepstein@drsilviaepstein Жыл бұрын
  • Feels like bunk for Tories and Labor to claim that Scotland had other issues to focus on as if those issues aren't inherently tied to being a member of the UK.

    @menacegallagher7334@menacegallagher7334 Жыл бұрын
    • Education has collapsed thanks to the SNP

      @Samthebritishgent@Samthebritishgent Жыл бұрын
  • I hope the wishes of Scotish people are respected whether they choose to be part of the UK or to be an independent country. Scotland is a great nation.

    @DeepMeditationMusic1@DeepMeditationMusic1 Жыл бұрын
    • All I read is where in the World the Scots live - It is rarely Scotland. Will they All be rushing back IF Westminster is not involved 🤣🤣🤣

      @donaldbaker1554@donaldbaker1554 Жыл бұрын
    • Never.Rebel rousers like sturgeon only thinks of herself and she wants supreme power to run Scotland. That hypocrital b**ch who bleated on about how bad Brexit was she wants the same thing, she wants to break the union and it will make us and Scotland poorer.

      @brianmorecombe2726@brianmorecombe2726 Жыл бұрын
    • Message to my jock people, SNP are bad, these bastards would commit civil war if needed be, or if they had the brains, Better and stronger together as the UK, God bless the King, and all British ethnicities that make us British throught background, religious beliefs, and his UK armed forces too. For king and country, HM govt Armed forces and civil servants, and Churchill and Baroness Thatcher.

      @chrismitchell4808@chrismitchell4808 Жыл бұрын
    • Nah fam, the UK is an a very bad financial situation right now and the last thing it needs is to divide itself in half.

      @joebidenisyourpresidentget2481@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 Жыл бұрын
    • They did vote. Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 chose to be part of the union

      @online3010@online3010 Жыл бұрын
  • Instead of giving Scotland reasons to stay, they’ve just been told “No, now shut up”. Scotland leaving is now all but guaranteed.

    @isolationnationn@isolationnationn Жыл бұрын
    • I was brought up in England and taught to see Scotland as a region. I now live in Scotland. Trust my experience. It is not a region. Don't take things for granted UK . It is a massive mistake as we have learnt through Brexit..

      @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂😂😂😋

      @barrytees988@barrytees988 Жыл бұрын
    • @@barrytees988 Sorry, was this meant to communicate an opinion/idea or did your kid just get access to your account?

      @isolationnationn@isolationnationn Жыл бұрын
    • @@isolationnationn do's not sound like it. Sounds more like just saying. Maybe you should let your kids have access. Sounds like you struggle to get into yours.SAOR ALBA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😋

      @barrytees988@barrytees988 Жыл бұрын
    • Guaranteed? First we need an armed insurrection, and then foreign intervention. Now... how many countries in the world would reach out and promote the breaking up of the United Kingdom?

      @doc0core@doc0core Жыл бұрын
  • Strange partnership, where only England is making decision .

    @janurbanovic67@janurbanovic67 Жыл бұрын
    • England has no parliament and Scots made their decision 8 years ago polls regularly show only 1/3rd of Scots want another referendum.

      @kethughes8266@kethughes8266 Жыл бұрын
    • India found that out and paid the price in the form of a scar across its face resulting in pakistan as it "took back" control.

      @Enavor@Enavor Жыл бұрын
    • Like any organization there has to be some sensible rules and yes it SHOULD be difficult to break apart . We have already seen how populist Nationalism and misinformation can lead a country down a clearly bad path with Brexit, it should be a lesson.

      @Battleneter@Battleneter Жыл бұрын
    • @@Battleneter And yet the only major division on Brexit, was the one between Scotland and England. Scotland wished to remain by some 62%.... where 53% of our neighbours voted for the exit.

      @KCM25NJL@KCM25NJL Жыл бұрын
    • @@Battleneter ok but it's an involuntary union if only one country gets to be more equal

      @nromk@nromk Жыл бұрын
  • 8 years ago there was no Brexit in view !!!!

    @franciscouderq1100@franciscouderq1100 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes there was the EU referendum was announced in 2013, also had scotland voted yes they would have got brexit years before the rest of us.

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
  • This will not go away. We have the right to decide our own future.

    @RR-sp3ey@RR-sp3ey Жыл бұрын
    • As far as I'm concerned, Sturgeon is a seditious traitor who wants to break up the Union, Scotland has it's own laws, banks and government as well as the same monarch. Let's not forget the SNP planned to collaborate with the Nazis during WW2 and were close to the Nazis in the 1930s. Sturgeon must accept the 2014 result because she's behaving like an entitled spoilt brat throwing her dummy out because she did not get the result she wanted in 2014. Look at Scotland under Sturgeon, it's become a hellhole where merely making a joke is an arrest offense. I'm from England and I know my government are bad but Sturgeon, she's far worse than Sunak and Hunt and I pity the people of Scotland who have to live under Sturgeon's mismanagement, corruption and more authoritarian leaning government. The Scots deserve better.

      @bloodrave9578@bloodrave9578 Жыл бұрын
    • You’re right, we do have the right to decide our own future, but where were you when we voted on this? Do you forget that the people of Scotland voted against Independence? Much was made of the “once in a lifetime” vote, yet here we are again because some people have trouble loosing. We laugh at Trump but the similarities between Trump and Sturgeon are becoming more obvious by the day. I don’t have any nasty feelings towards people who hold different political views, but I DO have issues with people who are trying to take away MY democratic vote that was legally cast in the referendum. I don’t personally always win, but I have the maturity to understand that this is life. I wish the SNP would show a little more of the same maturity.

      @ruthhogg6423@ruthhogg6423 Жыл бұрын
    • You had your vote and you chose to to stay

      @user-ke9dk4hs3u@user-ke9dk4hs3u Жыл бұрын
    • You can’t just have a referendum vote when you feel like one. It impacts the economy enormously. Once in a life time time/ generation. That isn’t 8 years. The core happened. SNP need to focus on the shambles in the NHS and it’s cost of living crisis. Scotland would be left bankrupt.

      @jKDC1987@jKDC1987 Жыл бұрын
    • You had it you clown, remember? a "once in a lifetime"vote

      @jayneryan6395@jayneryan6395 Жыл бұрын
  • The last SNP manifesto stated seeking approval for a referendum. Scotland voted for it.

    @starnostras@starnostras Жыл бұрын
    • Yes and now approval has been deemed illegal. The SNP does not have the legal grounds to seek another referendum.

      @jotunheim5302@jotunheim5302 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jotunheim5302 - Dissolve the Scottish parliament & base the election on Independence.

      @alba9507@alba9507 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jotunheim5302 No approval means no legislative route to self-determination exists within the UK. Your sentence should read: 'There is no legal grounds to seek a referendum'.

      @starnostras@starnostras Жыл бұрын
    • seems clear to me..

      @idw9159@idw9159 Жыл бұрын
    • Engurland is the only country in the Disunited Kingdom that can leave!

      @alba9507@alba9507 Жыл бұрын
  • Fight for freedom, stand with Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    @katemc516@katemc516 Жыл бұрын
    • Freedom to have open borders?

      @canugizabit2810@canugizabit2810 Жыл бұрын
    • Scotland will have less 'freedom' if they leave. As will every other member of the Union. Pointless division

      @SeptemberSeventeenth@SeptemberSeventeenth Жыл бұрын
    • @@SeptemberSeventeenth it's the globalists agenda under the guise of nationalism

      @canugizabit2810@canugizabit2810 Жыл бұрын
    • I know you like get railed by refugees but not us Kate

      @jmyers52995@jmyers52995 Жыл бұрын
    • As a Scottish person I say "No"

      @rangersmetalatheist9392@rangersmetalatheist93928 ай бұрын
  • Why Scottish people’s fate is subjected to English ruling?

    @jwhard2385@jwhard2385 Жыл бұрын
    • Because English PMs, for all matter and purpose, still consider Scotland as an English vassal state.

      @Shuyin781@Shuyin781 Жыл бұрын
    • They always love to rule others but don't like to be ruled by someone.

      @mahbubsubhan2308@mahbubsubhan2308 Жыл бұрын
    • You moan about being ruled by Westminster, we are all ruled by Westminster , I would say you are actually ruled by queen Nicola, so if you don’t like being ruled by a third party, then why do you want to join the EU, that’s not having independence is it.

      @KEITHJOHNPAUL@KEITHJOHNPAUL Жыл бұрын
    • The Act of Union of 1707 formed Great Britain by uniting the crowns of England and Scotland. Scotland had been deeply in debt, up to the point of facing national bankruptcy, and England bailed them out. The price of that bailout was Scottish independence. The Scottish people were subject to English rule from that day forward. If they want to leave the Union, Westminster must approve their leaving. Want to place a bet on whether or not that is going to happen? 😁

      @k.schmidt2740@k.schmidt2740 Жыл бұрын
    • @@k.schmidt2740 wanna place a bet on how well the Scottish are going to accept that? The short answer is that I'm not sure that they're particularly willing to be shackled by a 300 years old treaty. Especially after being deceived by the unionists on the latest vote on independence, months before brexit

      @Shuyin781@Shuyin781 Жыл бұрын
  • I wish the British media had questioned the pro Brexit politicians as hard as they did Angus Robertson!!

    @williamhendry9532@williamhendry9532 Жыл бұрын
    • They did!

      @KangoV@KangoV Жыл бұрын
    • That wasn't hard, he just found it hard.

      @nimrodfly626@nimrodfly626 Жыл бұрын
    • Are you awake? The British media was absolutely sceptical of Brexit and thoroughly interrogated politicians over it.

      @DaBIONICLEFan@DaBIONICLEFan Жыл бұрын
    • hard lol SNP wouldn't know accountability if it smacked them in the face. The media never hold them accountable.

      @latenightgaming6898@latenightgaming6898 Жыл бұрын
    • Yessss

      @Hugomad2@Hugomad2 Жыл бұрын
  • As a Kurd I would give my life for independence chance of Kurdistan. It is hard for me to understand Scotish people but yeah different geographies and different situations.

    @Kurdedunaysiri@Kurdedunaysiri Жыл бұрын
    • It's really simple.. Scotland voluntarily joined the UK union and for a long time it was a benefit but in the modern times the here and now this is not true anymore. Scotland has an extraordinary opportunity to open itself to the rest of Europe which England's is suppressing. Even when we were in the EU, England was not allowing Scotland to benefit from this situation. It has taken time , but this is clear now.. there is an opportunity for Scotland right now.. England has made a terrible mistake but it is opportunity for others.

      @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • @@michaelhoodleeder No Scotland did not voluntarily join the Union of Great Britain, it was forced to Join by King James 1st of England who had before becoming King of England and Scotland King James 6th of Scotland, he formed the Union to stop the Scottish Clans killing them selves and the Union of Scotland and England was sighnd on one day and the Union of England and Scotland was sighnd the next day, this was about 400 years ago. Scotland would be the lame duck of Europe on it's own as the majority of money used for Scottish public services comes from the UK Government, millions of pounds in what is called the Barnett Formular and England has nothing to do with it as England is a country with no Government being run by large county councils, it is the UK Government that runs the country. The decision was decided by the UK Supreme Court that only the UK Government in Westminster governs the UK and can decide if any part of the UK can have independence.

      @peterwilliamallen1063@peterwilliamallen1063 Жыл бұрын
    • @@peterwilliamallen1063 What are you smoking Peter? Your fiction qualities give you an excellent chance of getting a job on GB News.

      @TheGullyfoyle@TheGullyfoyle Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheGullyfoyleBefore going on about a load of rubbish, try googling the History of the Union between England and Scotland of 1707, it was not voluntary it was made to happen to stop infighting f the Scottish Clans and yes GB News is very good at getting to the point

      @peterwilliamallen1063@peterwilliamallen1063 Жыл бұрын
    • @@peterwilliamallen1063 Google is not the Grail Peter, GB news is a platform for minority views, somewhere for third rate TV personalities to get their kicks.

      @TheGullyfoyle@TheGullyfoyle Жыл бұрын
  • When you are in a partnership, you should able to have the right as many times as you want to leave it

    @williammacdiarmid6395@williammacdiarmid6395 Жыл бұрын
    • Well isn't that convenient for 45% of us

      @LgiovanniF@LgiovanniF Жыл бұрын
    • It would cause economic chaos for everyone

      @rossmcgowan123@rossmcgowan123 Жыл бұрын
    • They think that Scottish people are stupid....

      @crazypasta7749@crazypasta7749 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rossmcgowan123 freedom is privilege worth fighting for ...... Money can be earn.... It's gonna be a civil war lad..... 🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃

      @crazypasta7749@crazypasta7749 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rossmcgowan123 We are all ready in economic chaos! By being prisoners in this undemocratic union? . Wake up! Where have you been? england has been squandering billions of pounds, of tax payers money for years.

      @williammacdiarmid6395@williammacdiarmid6395 Жыл бұрын
  • I support another referendum so Nicola Snakeurgeon can be shut forever and get forced to quit politics! As without Scottish independence promises then Nicola will be find out how Scotland is screwed economically and socially!!!

    @NeoFreshair@NeoFreshair Жыл бұрын
    • @Victory will be Ukrainian. and what oil will ve replaced in the future scotland without uk would be. Shithole just like it was before the union

      @benjaminbentsen6080@benjaminbentsen6080 Жыл бұрын
    • @Victory will be Ukrainian. hahhahaa sure that belong to the uk scotland wont get inpendnece and UK will rejoin eu

      @benjaminbentsen6080@benjaminbentsen6080 Жыл бұрын
  • i don't understand how you can block someone from a divorce if they don't want to be with you anymore which is the case here

    @stanjr7105@stanjr7105 Жыл бұрын
    • Minority of the population want to control how the rest think. The MAJORITY of the people of Scotland do NOT want 'independence' if it's the kind being offered by the SNP - Leave UK and join the EU - complete ignorance of how the system works.

      @johnwilson5637@johnwilson5637 Жыл бұрын
    • I don’t understand how she can cosy up to Sinn Fein , an organisation that applauded and condoned the murder of young Scottish soldiers by the IRA. It’s over . The dream is gone. Sturgeon will quit eventually or more likely be ousted. You’re assuming that the majority of Scot’s want independence. They don’t. Leaving aside the 2014 result (50-45) the polls are showing that support for the union is out in front. One poll carried out monthly by the Scotsman and using the same 2000 individuals, showed support for the union to be sitting at 60%. Now, do you not find that worrying considering, Brexit, Tory govt, Boris Johnson, partygate , cost of living crisis, Truss and the damage she did . It’s over. Let’s enjoy the moment and watch the leadership battle commence. 🇬🇧🇬🇧

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
    • I don’t understand how she can cosy up to Sinn Fein , an organisation that applauded and condoned the murder of young Scottish soldiers by the IRA. It’s over . The dream is gone. Sturgeon will quit eventually or more likely be ousted. You’re assuming that the majority of Scot’s want independence. They don’t. Leaving aside the 2014 result (50-45) the polls are showing that support for the union is out in front. One poll carried out monthly by the Scotsman and using the same 2000 individuals, showed support for the union to be sitting at 60%. Now, do you not find that worrying considering, Brexit, Tory govt, Boris Johnson, partygate , cost of living crisis, Truss and the damage she did . It’s over. Let’s enjoy the moment and watch the leadership battle commence. 🇬🇧🇬🇧

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
    • I don’t understand how she can cosy up to Sinn Fein , an organisation that applauded and condoned the murder of young Scottish soldiers by the IRA. It’s over . The dream is gone. Sturgeon will quit eventually or more likely be ousted. You’re assuming that the majority of Scot’s want independence. They don’t. Leaving aside the 2014 result (50-45) the polls are showing that support for the union is out in front. One poll carried out monthly by the Scotsman and using the same 2000 individuals, showed support for the union to be sitting at 60%. Now, do you not find that worrying considering, Brexit, Tory govt, Boris Johnson, partygate , cost of living crisis, Truss and the damage she did . It’s over. Let’s enjoy the moment and watch the leadership battle commence. 🇬🇧🇬🇧

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
    • I don’t understand how she can cosy up to Sinn Fein , an organisation that applauded and condoned the murder of young Scottish soldiers by the IRA. It’s over . The dream is gone. Sturgeon will quit eventually or more likely be ousted. You’re assuming that the majority of Scot’s want independence. They don’t. Leaving aside the 2014 result (50-45) the polls are showing that support for the union is out in front. One poll carried out monthly by the Scotsman and using the same 2000 individuals, showed support for the union to be sitting at 60%. Now, do you not find that worrying considering, Brexit, Tory govt, Boris Johnson, partygate , cost of living crisis, Truss and the damage she did . It’s over. Let’s enjoy the moment and watch the leadership battle commence. 🇬🇧🇬🇧

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
  • "The division, the debate separated families and communities, when we should be focused on working together." That's rich coming from a conversative, given they're so good at doing anything but sewing these divisive seeds of hate, anger and fear. Pitching people against whoever they need people to hate to serve their agenda, and cling on to power.

    @bigeye101@bigeye101 Жыл бұрын
    • Are you talking about the Tories or the SNP ? It really could be either. On balance, hard to criticise the SNP. If you're from England right now, isn't it? One of the good things about being in EU is all of this was irrelevant. Now it's a big deal. There is a very simple way to solve this..

      @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • @@michaelhoodleeder form an economic bloc with the commonwealth that’s the solution

      @bigships@bigships Жыл бұрын
  • UK told Scotland to stay in UK so that they could remain strong in Europe, then foisted Brexit upon us, so I think we deserve another vote

    @briansteele2723@briansteele2723 Жыл бұрын
    • So obvious, I hope we would be able soon to welcome you back in the common European house out of the shackles of Westminster.

      @jeromeh7985@jeromeh7985 Жыл бұрын
  • Selfishly as an Englishman, I would much rather Scotland stay part of our union. I love the Country! However, I would not deny them their freedom from being ruled by the absolute shower of shite in Westminster. And, I would also add that even though I’m not a massive fan of Sturgeon, she is still a miles better leader than anything the Tories have given us

    @davebaz8142@davebaz8142 Жыл бұрын
    • You would still be welcomed to come and stay or visit Scotland anytime my friend. Just like I feel I could visit my work colleages down south.

      @TheGarethLusk@TheGarethLusk Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks mate, we don't feel that english politics reflect the direction we want. But come stay anytime.

      @Daniel-hx8cc@Daniel-hx8cc Жыл бұрын
    • Most of us in Scotland recognise the difference between the English people and the Westminster parliament. I've live for decades in England and know the Tories are hated by most further north than Birmingham. I just wish you can come with us!

      @hiwattman@hiwattman Жыл бұрын
    • All she does is lie and so do they. They're one in the same. SNP and the Torries need to go

      @rossmcgowan123@rossmcgowan123 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rossmcgowan123 what’s she lying about in respect of independence?

      @hiwattman@hiwattman Жыл бұрын
  • I'm Scottish and sick of the SNP

    @Clara12111@Clara12111 Жыл бұрын
    • Claire: nobody is perfect…🤷‍♂️

      @franciscouderq1100@franciscouderq1100 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm scottish, and I'm pissed off being ruled by Tories.

      @MrGreekstatue@MrGreekstatue Жыл бұрын
  • Fight on Scotland!

    @magfes9209@magfes9209 Жыл бұрын
    • It is not worth fighting over

      @kethughes8266@kethughes8266 Жыл бұрын
    • ha ha, you absolute clown

      @jayneryan6395@jayneryan6395 Жыл бұрын
    • No

      @rangersmetalatheist9392@rangersmetalatheist93928 ай бұрын
  • #ScottishIndependenceReferendumNow

    @beynickiana@beynickiana Жыл бұрын
    • They said that last time - will they want ANOTHER referendum should the next one not give them the result they want? Never ending referendums until Krankie gets the result she wants?

      @johnwilson5637@johnwilson5637 Жыл бұрын
    • We already had it and it was "No" Get over it.

      @rangersmetalatheist9392@rangersmetalatheist93928 ай бұрын
  • Said it before: if you need to ask the partner parliament of your voluntary union if it is allowed to question your own people if they want to remain in this union then why did GB not have to ask the EU Parliament if it is ok to hold a Brexit referendum - just saying

    @synkraut9633@synkraut9633 Жыл бұрын
    • The hypocrisy of Brexit-supporting British Nationalists is damning. Shame on them.

      @jackdubz4247@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
    • Because Britain is one nation, and the EU is a union of very separate and very distinct nations. It's not complicated. Rather simple, in fact. It's like there is a whole breed of rabid scot nats that don't understand what the devolved government actually is. It didn't break up Britain in to different countries, and it was never meant to. It was meant to ensure that the things that most needed funding and attention would be addressed if national policy meant that other things were being prioritised because that's what Cornwall (say) needed. In much the same way that the mayoral system that was introduced to the UK didn't create city states. Sadly, ever since the SNP has taken power, all the really important things have suffered (things like education, social mobility, life expectancy and other metrics that detail whether a country is succeeding or not), with Scotland falling behind the rest of the UK. Probably because a one policy party has hijacked the devolved government to do something it was never intended to do, and they have little to no interest in things like improving life for their constituents. Seriously - go look at the statistics of where Scotland ranked compared to other parts of the UK before SNP seized hold, to the years after. It's awful.

      @Afterthoughtbtw@Afterthoughtbtw Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, you're ignorant. So, I'll help you. The act of Union was willingly signed onto by the Scottish parliament in perpetuity. As your clearly not very intelligent, that means forever. No 'backsys'. It devolved the power of state to Westminster. So, ONLY Westminster could decide on a referendum. It really was that simple and nippy knew it. So, it was Westminster that allowed the last referendum as a once in a lifetime referendum and all the political parties signed on to that. The SNP lost. Whereas, the EU had provision for exit. It's really that simple.

      @josm1206@josm1206 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jackdubz4247 your ignorance should embarrass you.

      @josm1206@josm1206 Жыл бұрын
    • How many times do they want a referendum on the issue? They had one and reneged on the promise to adhere to the decision. Another EU/Remoaner ploy to keep voting until the correct decision is made?

      @johnwilson5637@johnwilson5637 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve got an idea, let the English have a vote on Scottish independence.

    @rafosier@rafosier Жыл бұрын
    • Yes. Guaranteed they would get their independence then !!

      @2msvalkyrie529@2msvalkyrie529 Жыл бұрын
    • Dream on. It's up to the people of Scotland to decide, not England.

      @MontyCantsin5@MontyCantsin5 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, great idea, I like that. However, wouldn't that be a bit like letting the EU have a vote on Brexit?

      @fuzzle9392@fuzzle9392 Жыл бұрын
    • @@MontyCantsin5 And they did

      @mattthompson8264@mattthompson8264 Жыл бұрын
    • Your idea is FCUKUP, how about Wales, Northern Ireland and the mongrels have a vote on Scottish/Wales and mongrels independence?

      @paygorenewableenergy312@paygorenewableenergy312 Жыл бұрын
  • hardly a defeat, more like a blessing for us scots (im pro-independence)

    @ojes796@ojes796 Жыл бұрын
    • What's ur problem staying in the uk?

      @whiteknox477@whiteknox477 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@whiteknox477 england is the only country making decisions, with UK-wide votes and decisions Scotland, Wales and NI all lose their voice because of the population of England. We want to leave to express our voices and embrace democracy

      @ojes796@ojes796 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ojes796 You have your own government. Independence would fail. Stop crying.

      @DingleDangle66@DingleDangle66 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ojes796 actually England doesn’t have its own parliament we just have the primary parliament which deals with the UK. So we can’t express our voices since they’re busy dealing with other problems around the UK

      @ProtocolAbyss@ProtocolAbyss Жыл бұрын
  • How ironic...Tony Blairs supreme Court rejects Tony Blairs devolved Scottish government.. You just couldn't make it up.

    @Summersue@Summersue Жыл бұрын
  • I'm just a foreigner looking in from the outside, but wouldn't the financial situation for working people and families be better if Scotland was a separate country and a member of the EU? Isn't part of the reason that the U.K. is doing worse than it's European neighbors is that they are now paying more for imports, etc. due to Brexit? They are in effect an island in both the literal and figurative sense. As to a vote for Scottish independence...wasn't the last one a vote by all U.K. citizens? Well of course it failed. It makes no sense to me that an independence vote would be conducted outside of Scotland. The Scottish people should be only ones voting...but what do I know, I'm just as foreigner from a democratic country. I see this as a set up against the Scottish people and their ability to access democracy completely.

    @marywood8794@marywood8794 Жыл бұрын
  • Another milestone in an abusive relationship. Well done guys.

    @TheStonesQT93@TheStonesQT93 Жыл бұрын
    • What abusive relationship, when the UK Government gives Scotland millions of Pounds in handouts.

      @peterwilliamallen1063@peterwilliamallen1063 Жыл бұрын
  • Very good scotland, love from India. our govt. will give you recognition. Northern ireland should also join republic of ireland.

    @sharadjain2463@sharadjain2463 Жыл бұрын
    • Bengal and Kashmir should become independent from India.

      @TransoceanicOutreach@TransoceanicOutreach Жыл бұрын
    • @@TransoceanicOutreach India has already divided by britain 70 years ago. there is no secessionist movement in bengal and J & K is part of india.

      @sharadjain2463@sharadjain2463 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks lad 👍🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇮🇳

      @seankavanagh7625@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
    • @@seankavanagh7625 We have a big army, India is big country, our defence capabilities are increasing, We have ballistic missiles entirely indeginious, we can help you very much. We like ireland.

      @sharadjain2463@sharadjain2463 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sharadjain2463 Thank you but we've tried achieving complete independence by force in Ireland. It doesn't work. You have to win people's hearts and minds, guns and missiles can't do that.

      @seankavanagh7625@seankavanagh7625 Жыл бұрын
  • Lost another doo Nichola, get over it.

    @ronniehaywood2725@ronniehaywood2725 Жыл бұрын
    • 🤣🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧💯👊

      @marimurphy3856@marimurphy3856 Жыл бұрын
  • Stand with the Scottish people! Fight for freedom!

    @SSDKLSF@SSDKLSF Жыл бұрын
    • The SNP doesn't want to " free " us. They want to control us, Hard borders, draconian laws, a divided hate-filled society, passports, and visas, to roam our Islands free of the suffocating yoke of the SNP. keep us FREE from the SNP!

      @scotmacc@scotmacc Жыл бұрын
    • Paint your face blue

      @kethughes8266@kethughes8266 Жыл бұрын
    • you muppet.

      @jayneryan6395@jayneryan6395 Жыл бұрын
    • You want independence and yet you want to join the EU ? Do you really know what independence is?

      @KEITHJOHNPAUL@KEITHJOHNPAUL Жыл бұрын
    • Oh about no

      @rangersmetalatheist9392@rangersmetalatheist93928 ай бұрын
  • I am equal within the UK as a Scottish citizen ? No ! I am an unequal citizen of the “United Kingdom”, a political prisoner of an Undemocratic United Kingdom, led by the English governing London, there by numbers alone, not equal representation

    @greensam7074@greensam7074 Жыл бұрын
    • The Majority of the Judges were not English, and included people from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

      @Themanyfacesofego@Themanyfacesofego Жыл бұрын
    • so when did England have a referndum

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • Yep, even if you think your English but your not, schools police social services all fake all against certain individuals. Using certain tactical methods in cultural destruction separation of truth.

      @a44489@a44489 Жыл бұрын
    • so you didnt vote in 2014 then, the referndum that you never honoured.

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • Bro everyone outside of the south feels that way yet alone Welsh Nth. Irish Scots things need to change Scotland isn’t alone in that don’t blame that on all English also forgetting Scottish population in England the whole voting system needs to change -only 40% of the Uk voted Tory And yet that have a huge majority -libdems got 3.6 million votes and 11 seats across Uk -SNP got 1.2 million 48 seats just which is only 20% of Scottish population These stats don’t make sense independence isn’t the answer REAL representation is

      @chazzerbox131@chazzerbox131 Жыл бұрын
  • As per usual, denial of the will of individual citizens of Scotland by the Labour & Conservative parties, who tag everything as “SNP” when my vote and my will, is to be Independent of the English governing parties, both Labour & Conservative, living in an Independent Scotland, where any party can canvas for votes, in our own elections, to rule as a sovereign and independent Scottish nation. I am a businessman with over 100 people working for me and I believe in a strong and stable independent Scotland and I will fight tooth & nail for that independence

    @greensam7074@greensam7074 Жыл бұрын
    • It's such a pity you can't just leave the UK right now !!! At least we won't have to here you all moaning on and on and on. The opinion polls are split equally on any given day.So what happens to the rest of the Scots who don't want to leave ? Your not really bothered are you truth be told you just want independence.

      @mauricetrotter6010@mauricetrotter6010 Жыл бұрын
    • I voted no as did most of the population. Seems like we don't matter.

      @chrisdude9641@chrisdude9641 Жыл бұрын
    • @@chrisdude9641 I take it you live in Scotland I'm across the border in Carlisle. The way things are portrayed to everyone not in Scotland is that you all want to have your independence.Which if it's true I don't think anyone should stop.It seems that all the people who voted to stay with the other three nations have been forgotten about by Sturgeon.

      @mauricetrotter6010@mauricetrotter6010 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mauricetrotter6010 It's a very divisive topic that appeals to any one regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. The SNP are still popular but they are also very unpopular. Very divisive. I'm of the opinion that the SNP's pursuit of 'independence' is a smokescreen deflecting their failures in government. The other parties are not much better. The SNP are an existential threat to our way of life. It's vital to protect our financial system and also our freedoms, the Hate Bill Act is one of the Draconian pieces of legislation Scotland has ever had. They don't care about the economy. It's ideology. Just like another nationalist socialist party.

      @chrisdude9641@chrisdude9641 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mauricetrotter6010 we really don't.

      @LgiovanniF@LgiovanniF Жыл бұрын
  • Robust and high quality debate with good engagement, well reported channel 4

    @alexandercrump2298@alexandercrump2298 Жыл бұрын
    • She keeps referring to herself as 'Scotland'. Yeah but she never consults anybody but herself.

      @keplermission4947@keplermission4947 Жыл бұрын
    • @@PorthLlwyd In 2013 Police Scotland was made a National Force to discourage nepotism. In 2019 the Fife Constabulary Chief, Garry McEwan had retired after his father occupied the same post for the previous lifetime term. But how had they changed the force after 2013 to be more national in its staff structures? NOT AT ALL, Garry's brother Derek had stepped into the top job as soon as Garry retired and had even married a young police chief to keep their hands on power long into the future! What does Nicola care for beyond her salary and job security? Not much.

      @keplermission4947@keplermission4947 Жыл бұрын
    • 🤣

      @zoolhert3535@zoolhert3535 Жыл бұрын
    • @alexandercrump2298 - I don't have a dog in this fight, but I am finding the adult political debate to be refreshing. Be grateful this debate is not going down the path of an out-of-control juvenile tantrum for which law enforcement would not hold the perpetrators of violence accountable. Rule of law and democratic debate are superior to chaos and anarchy that results from the over-throw of a Constitutional democracy. Nowadays in the USA if the radical extremist political party disagrees with you, they don't offer rational counter points. They call you a NAZI, and then have the local television news record their anonymous black-clad assassins firebombing your house for broadcast on the evening news program while they announce that they are fighting for truth and social justice against your monumental evil that is trying to kidnap their babies to eat them as a satanic ritual. The psychotic extremists take the "straw man" fallacy to the extreme for their counter point because it gets them attention in the news. It's friggin' insanity here as leadership has recently taken a long vacation at one of their many beach-front, gated mansions made possible by the "modest" compensation of public servants which they suddenly acquired after taking public office (note: extremists have never held a real job in the private sector). We can't even take the problem to the FBI as they have now assumed the role of the NKVD by pursuing political opponents with false accusations, a bag full of fabricated evidence, and Stalinist zeal. Look on the bright side and count your blessings. Then come out fighting for adult democratic debate above all political issues.

      @Kevin-rz6lm@Kevin-rz6lm Жыл бұрын
  • I suppose a referendum should be held every 2 years in order to make us feel good about confirming our belief in democracy.

    @trblcleft@trblcleft Жыл бұрын
    • Over the endless history in Europe, that is exactly what happens. It's called democracy.. It's very annoying but very important

      @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • Every 1 year would be better. That's cauld democracy in action.

      @williammacdiarmid6395@williammacdiarmid6395 Жыл бұрын
    • @@williammacdiarmid6395 are you guys buffoons are just being sarcastic?

      @Joe-bn9fz@Joe-bn9fz Жыл бұрын
    • Wayyyyyyy too short of time

      @Squeeperguy@Squeeperguy Жыл бұрын
    • Good idea how about asking the EU emperors if they'd promote that as well. Chances are slim to zilch.

      @creelbait@creelbait Жыл бұрын
  • If the powers of independence are held in Westminster, and not in the parliament of that nation, then these are not sovereign nations unified voluntarily whatsoever.

    @Michael0697@Michael0697 Жыл бұрын
    • A decision that would dissolve the entire nation should lie with the entire country's parliament, i.e. the UK government.

      @DaBIONICLEFan@DaBIONICLEFan Жыл бұрын
    • And they were given a vote less than a decade ago. She's just desperate to drag Scotland back into the e.u even though Scottish people voted for brexit.

      @satlynutz@satlynutz Жыл бұрын
    • @@satlynutz Scotland voted to stay in the EU. By 62% infact.

      @nooie2@nooie2 Жыл бұрын
    • @@nooie2 but that just over half. The fact of the matter is they are part of the uk and 62 % of Scotland don't make up a majority. Nicola just wants to cut and run because she hates the British people.

      @satlynutz@satlynutz Жыл бұрын
    • We already had an Independence vote . We voted No. Every opinion poll since shows it is still No. Most people here don't even want another referendum . So get your facts right and don't be fooled by SNP fake news about Democracy !!

      @2msvalkyrie529@2msvalkyrie529 Жыл бұрын
  • The wee krankie's delusion continues !

    @pilot3003@pilot3003 Жыл бұрын
    • racists never win, neither do colonists and traitors

      @melvinpenman1102@melvinpenman1102 Жыл бұрын
  • As a Canadian I hope Scotland stays a part of the UK, mostly cause of the tragedy that Scotland leaving will cause on the British flag lol

    @SirSpiderPig@SirSpiderPig Жыл бұрын
    • F the flag, independence for Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

      @New-ye2fl@New-ye2fl Жыл бұрын
    • @@New-ye2fl bye then

      @JJones-oi3jc@JJones-oi3jc Жыл бұрын
  • What gets my goat most is the "Scotland doesn't want a referendum" tripe from both Labour and Tory parties despite having campaigned on denying a referendum and having lost.

    @robertlamont9455@robertlamont9455 Жыл бұрын
    • Hope you get your 🐐,. How would you no what people of Scotland want, Douglas Ross is a traitor, no match for sturgeon, he's in Willie Rennie's league,. Scotland doesn't even no what want,. Campaign means nothing, every area is different

      @greighamilton7335@greighamilton7335 Жыл бұрын
  • A Labour Government with some sensible policies, an end to culture wars and a return to growth, would hole Sturgeon below the waterline and she knows it, which is why she's making a last desperate stand now. She knew she would lose this but it's a means of whipping up a bigger sulk. Scotland had it's "once in a Generation vote" and the SNP leadership agreed not to call for another for that time. No country can have continual Ref's until the side whaling separation gets the result it wants. It's divisive and disruptive to commerce. The border and currency issues would be terrible.

    @ParcelOfRogue@ParcelOfRogue Жыл бұрын
    • Yes but.....we're victims ..! We're under the English yoke .!! ....Freedom etc, blah, blah...

      @2msvalkyrie529@2msvalkyrie529 Жыл бұрын
    • @@NA-gf1zy totally agree

      @oliverbellwood8408@oliverbellwood8408 Жыл бұрын
    • @@NA-gf1zy Only thing I'd disagree with is that she is moving the goalposts when she is told no... She moves the goalposts when she is told yes, but she then misses.

      @Afterthoughtbtw@Afterthoughtbtw Жыл бұрын
    • @@NA-gf1zy They are delusional and unreal too.

      @philiprufus4427@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
  • The bright day of freedom is dawning for Scotland. Long live Scotland, free and proud!

    @nandolopes9897@nandolopes9897 Жыл бұрын
    • @Jolly Roger Mr Blackface isn’t too keen on it, and then there’s Australia Corbyn… and Indian Anthony Blair…

      @TheBenchPressMan@TheBenchPressMan Жыл бұрын
  • Don't worry, Scotland. If you declared independence tomorrow, and asked the European Union and the United States for recognition, you would get our and their support. So, you don't need permission from Westminster. You have a Parliament, you have a government. You're not Catalonia, and the UK is not Spain. You can do this. We've got your back on this one.

    @maartenvandam344@maartenvandam344 Жыл бұрын
    • I doubt this very much.

      @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
    • 🤡

      @AA-69@AA-69 Жыл бұрын
    • Recognition perhaps but support?…. Doubtful.

      @Al_Pollock@Al_Pollock Жыл бұрын
    • "Don't need permission from Westminster?" Most certainly Scotland does. It wants to be respected in the World and be a good international partner when it becomes independent, so it certainly does not want to achieve independence in an unlawful manner.

      @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
    • Shut it slap heed

      @adds8235@adds8235 Жыл бұрын
  • voluntary union: provides a clear way for a member to leave said union . An example would be the EU and the way to leave is to invoke article 50 (basically saying "I want to leave") involuntary union: provides no clear way for a member to leave. An example would be the UK or the former USSR

    @tom-qj6uw@tom-qj6uw Жыл бұрын
    • As an Eastern European, let me tell ya, I've been seeing parallels for a while now.

      @TheHestya@TheHestya Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheHestya Thanks. So I am not the only one. I am from Germany, BTW

      @tom-qj6uw@tom-qj6uw Жыл бұрын
  • I'm English and living in for the last twenty years,and I'm noticing a lot more yes voter's than the was last time round! I'm even thinking of voting yes myself if the chance comes again.

    @buskingkarma2503@buskingkarma2503 Жыл бұрын
    • That’s the generated hated of sturgeon taking shape.

      @alfredbatchelor1954@alfredbatchelor1954 Жыл бұрын
    • The only way to be free free Scottish must go to war for they independent for they freedom ..England is scamming Scotland end Northern Ireland cause Scotland has oil,gas fish 🎣 etc ,,northern Ireland has cheap slaves makin ships food etc for English..it’s fuking independent now or never… war is decision to clear it out

      @aduffield8237@aduffield8237 Жыл бұрын
    • Without doubt, even here in Edinburgh the difference is very noticeable.

      @New-ye2fl@New-ye2fl Жыл бұрын
    • @@alfredbatchelor1954 nah that's just because England made a bunch of false promises vows and commitments but never delivered any of which they said would come with brexit like full devo max 9 million for the NHS Scotland can keep its EU rights if it votes to remain part of the UK Scotland can get this and that but got nothing of which was promised

      @jamesmiller9363@jamesmiller9363 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jamesmiller9363 your spreading hatred about English, not much better then the IRA, or Putin really, I don’t need to listen or read from people who are very narrow minded.

      @alfredbatchelor1954@alfredbatchelor1954 Жыл бұрын
  • I hope they don't go but if they want to then so be it. All I would say is be careful what you wish for.

    @NotApplicable678@NotApplicable678 Жыл бұрын
    • She can pay for the scotish army navy and airforce, she can pay for the taxation for up keep of schools road infrastructure, power supplies gas, electric. she and the scots can pay for dental care and hospitals... and benefits for the sick , and for prescriptions. I Hope she has a good plan, she will need it.. BUT GUESS SHE HASN'T. SHE JUST WANTS TO MAKE A NAME FOR HERSELF. She has no idea or plan and the scots being stupid for the most part will end up paying for it all.. Actually i'll be glad to see you all go, and then i won't have to pay as much tax to keep all this running. But remember when you're gone you cannot re-join us and come back..

      @patrickdoyle9369@patrickdoyle9369 Жыл бұрын
    • You mean like brexit

      @1967deek@1967deek Жыл бұрын
    • I agree. It is like Brexit but the difference is Scotland's is trying to be part of Europe and flourish. It's not really the same debate. By leaving a small union they become part of something huge and powerful. It would open up incredible avenues for them that are currently not within their power.

      @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • @@1967deek Brexit is being free, independent and self governing, so yes just like brexit. That is until Scotland realises what everyone already knows that the eu is not a trade bloc but a federal project in which Scotland would be a rule taker and tax payer.

      @knightswhosayni@knightswhosayni Жыл бұрын
    • @@knightswhosayni funny enough Scotland in EU could decide for itself if it want to be in it and when they want to be out of it (article 50 anyone? UK didn't had to ask EU for permission to trigger it.)

      @techno6637@techno6637 Жыл бұрын
  • It's very clever. She's really brought the truth to the front and centre. It's a big deal up here in Scotland , now more than ever. Democracy eventually finds its way. If they want Scotland to stay in the UK they will have to win hearts and minds, that's democracy.

    @michaelhoodleeder@michaelhoodleeder Жыл бұрын
    • Funny. I thought democracy was having a vote and respecting the results of that vote. They had a vote, now they need to start respecting it, or else it is their denial of democracy that will prove to be undemocratic.

      @michaeltunnicliffe4935@michaeltunnicliffe4935 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for proving how poor the Scottish education system is.

      @josm1206@josm1206 Жыл бұрын
    • it’s only a big deal for the nicola lovers and the flag wavers it’s not about the people of scotland it’s all about nicola respect the vote nicola !!!

      @bigt301@bigt301 Жыл бұрын
    • @@josm1206 How so?

      @andrewwotherspoona5722@andrewwotherspoona5722 Жыл бұрын
    • FREEEEEEDOM 😂😂. Aye poor Scottish people. The oppression, the arrests by the secret police. Waiting for that knock on the door. Democracy did find a way … 55-45. Clown

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
  • We support the independence of Scotland. You got the home of Scottish people during the centuries.

    @oktayuraltay5767@oktayuraltay5767 Жыл бұрын
    • Trouble is Scotland can not legally become Independent unless the UK Government, the Government of the United Kingdom which by the way is made up of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland will allow it, this decision was decided on by the highest court in the UK, The UK Supreme Court and backed up by the Scottish Advocate Court the equivalent in Scotland.

      @peterwilliamallen1063@peterwilliamallen1063 Жыл бұрын
    • You want independence to only be a small player in the EU? Makes no sense at all.

      @JJones-oi3jc@JJones-oi3jc Жыл бұрын
  • The unionist counter protest numbered around twenty.

    @hashburystumble8808@hashburystumble8808 Жыл бұрын
  • Labour is dead in Scotland. That ship has sailed. They're all dieing off.

    @sueyourself5413@sueyourself5413 Жыл бұрын
    • Labour is dead nationwide, people realised they're useless. No way you just spelt dying as "dieing"....

      @Yamezzzz@Yamezzzz Жыл бұрын
    • Ship has sailed? *Sturgeon can't even get a ferry to float* LOL!!!

      @Mike-gd4zd@Mike-gd4zd Жыл бұрын
  • Nationalists sell grievance and lies. Just look at the intentional misrepresentation from the SNP contingent here. Cool example: "Scotland is occupied". Nope.

    @emm_arr@emm_arr Жыл бұрын
  • No, we are not a "voluntary organisation of nations" - we are one country, one British nation.

    @portsmouth1781@portsmouth1781 Жыл бұрын
  • I would love to see England turn round to the other 3 countries in the Union and say........ "WE ARE GOING TO BE AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY". "NOW P#SS OFF"... (From a Scot.)

    @edwinleslie1330@edwinleslie1330 Жыл бұрын
    • Maybe England should insist on having it's own Parliament - and build one, using British taxpayers' money - and overspend that money by millions?

      @arlenemacphie6633@arlenemacphie6633 Жыл бұрын
    • They wouldn’t do that though would they?

      @johnmckay2058@johnmckay2058 Жыл бұрын
    • @@johnmckay2058 one of the reasons for the UK being so against Scottish independence is precisely because it opens the door for England to exist again. No potlical entity will ever voluntarily allow itself to be weakened.

      @BeBe-vh4ry@BeBe-vh4ry Жыл бұрын
    • @@arlenemacphie6633- England has a parliament it's called Westminster. Please Please P*** off.

      @alba9507@alba9507 Жыл бұрын
    • i think you'll find that was called brexit...

      @idw9159@idw9159 Жыл бұрын
  • If your plan for independence is for your economy to be propped up by the tax payer of the place you just got independence from, and for the place you just got independence from to continue supplying military defense, you don't have independence, you just become a dependency. The SNP's plan is to take Scotland from being a country to being on the same level as Guernsey. I hope Scotland one day becomes independent, but not with the SNP.

    @BadgerOfTheSea@BadgerOfTheSea Жыл бұрын
    • " Democracy " a l'Anglaise!

      @michaeldelisieux@michaeldelisieux Жыл бұрын
    • Independence would likely be the end of the SNP. Scotland could finally get back to some real political choice.

      @StozySco@StozySco Жыл бұрын
    • @@StozySco "Scotland could finally get back to some real political choice." You'd need to reform the voting system.

      @emm_arr@emm_arr Жыл бұрын
    • @@emm_arr The voting system is already eons ahead of the FPTP system found @ Westminster. It's pretty confounding that the SNP return so favourably under the D'Hondt system, when the whole premise is that it's fairer with respect to the balance of political power. Perhaps you should consider why that is......... *hint*.... Unanswered constitutional question?

      @KCM25NJL@KCM25NJL Жыл бұрын
  • So Scotland what has Wee Jimmy Krankie there ever done for you? She's a one trick pony and she's not even good at that

    @Bran_Redmaw@Bran_Redmaw Жыл бұрын
  • Some people can't take no for an answer!?Remember Brexit!?If we are really a democracy we can't keep having referendums until little Nicola gets her own way!It's not people like Nicola Sturgeon who'll suffer financially if Independence is a disaster! Let's have the best of both worlds!?The SNP zealots still,after sixty years,tell us what currency we will use ..... Nityananda

    @andycampbell4420@andycampbell4420 Жыл бұрын
  • The SNP will now throw/waste even more money (public money) to pursue a referendum.

    @richardbrown4294@richardbrown4294 Жыл бұрын
    • It would be money well spent.

      @noelpucarua2843@noelpucarua2843 Жыл бұрын
    • So the should SFU and accept that Scotland vote have no value ? That this is a forced Union where Scotland can vote whatever they want and it is fine that England force them to go they other way ?!? How this denial is helping the Union to thrive ? How this denial is helping people to trust in Westminster and think this is a democracy ? Doubts I got ... as a green guy would say.

      @testman9541@testman9541 Жыл бұрын
    • @@noelpucarua2843 Magic SNP Money spent like the following: • £20m on PretendyRef • £5m renovating two tower blocks • £100m to rent/staff two cruise ships • £9m on foreign offices •£15m on prisoner wages • £3m on mobile phones for prisoners • £1.5m on an election campaign • £6.1m spent on radio advertising during pandemic • £424m spent on locum doctors • £18m annually on MSP expenses • £116m annually to run Holyrood • £30m on Holyrood repairs • £450,000 paid to Stonewall • £23m on repairs to the empty Sick Kids Hospital • £7m on ministerial chauffeur-driven cars • £1.3m on ministerial car trips • £1.2m on electric cars for Holyrood staff • £25m for 2,000 car charging points in Aberdeen • £30m on a Low Carbon Transport Loan scheme •£500,000 on a failed national energy company • £110m on two ferries (sitting in dry dock unfinished) • f40m on the Rangers case • £52m on Bi-Fab • £586m on Lochaber Smelter •£178m on failed Agricultural IT system • £745m on the A90 (original forecast was £395m) • £30m on failed energy company investment •£10bn on failed Chinese consortium deal • £20m on electric police cars (with no charge points)

      @Mike-gd4zd@Mike-gd4zd Жыл бұрын
    • @@Mike-gd4zd All this happened while Scotland is still a part of the UK. The UK isn't working, as your list shows.

      @noelpucarua2843@noelpucarua2843 Жыл бұрын
    • @@noelpucarua2843 Are you stupid or trolling? All of that money was wasted by the Scottish government. Westminster had nothing to do with those decisions.

      @jwatson9732@jwatson9732 Жыл бұрын
  • It's clear there has to be a negotiated trigger mechanism for countries in the Union to leave that does not depend on Westminster.

    @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
    • not what all parties agreed , scotland signed up to it in 1998

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • there is you get more than 50% of the population to support you the snp dont have anywhere near that number.

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rogerbenfield2789 BREXIT was supported by 37.4% of eligible voters. This was enough to condem the UK to leave the EU.

      @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
    • @@davidbrisbane7206 so it was a referendum, sturgeon can never win one as the union vote has stayed about 50% for the last 8 years , bye

      @rogerbenfield2789@rogerbenfield2789 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rogerbenfield2789 So, you'll have no fear of having a Scottish independence referendum then right, because you think it will fail? If it fails a few times in a row, then Scottish people themselves will reject having future referenda. What are you therefore scared of then?

      @davidbrisbane7206@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
  • Some of the link sites have vanished and the links don't work... Thanks to Seastnan Seastnan cause i nicked this from them.. What does Scotland have? Scotland has only 8.3% of the UK's population. 8.3%! Remember this important figure... 8.3% But we DO have approximately...... 32% of the land area 61% of the sea area 90% of the fresh water. (There is more fresh water in loch Ness than In England and Wales combined!) 65% of the natural gas production 96.5% of the crude oil production 50% of Europe’s Carbon-Capture Storage Area 47% of the open cast coal production 81% of the untapped coal reserves 62% of the timber production 46% of the total forest area 92% of the hydro electric production 40% of the wind wave and solar energy production 60% of the fish landings 30% of the beef herd 20% of the sheep herd 9% of the dairy herd 10% of the pig herd 15% of the cereal holdings 20% of the potato holdings 100% of the Scottish Whisky industry. Then add over 70% of Gin production We have a... 17 billion pound construction industry 13 billion food and drink industry 10 billion business services industry 9.3 billion chemical services industry 9.3 billion tourism industry 7 billion financial services industry 5 billion aeroservice industry 4.5 billion whisky export industry 3.1 billion life sciences industry Scotland still has 350 million pounds worth of textile exports Scotland has opened it’s first Goldmine We have 25% of all Europes wave and wind energy potential with only 1% of Europe's population. We have 1.5 trillion pounds - £1,500,000,000,000 worth of oil and gas reserves. All of this, yet only 8.3% of The UK's population... Scotland's exports are almost 3 times greater than England’s; Our oil reserves are 95 times greater than England’s; Our fish landings are 22 times greater than England’s; Our natural gas reserves are 15 times greater than England’s; Our Gross Domestic Product per Head (GDP) is over £2000 more than England’s; We have 7 times more farmland than that of England; We produce 18 times more renewable power than England and our tourism industry income is 8% larger than England’s; Our tourism is generated largely on the vast natural beauty of our country with its incredible collection of lochs, a lake, rivers, hills and mountains combined with a friendly and hospitable population; Here also are four useful links below, to back all of above up, that are not coming from any Pro-Scotland/Indy people, that are 100% true and these three video links, are definitely well worth copying and keeping. So as to share to any anti-Scotland BritNat Unionists, who still think its 2014 and as such, still come out with and spout the same old usual anti-Scotland nonsense, about Scotland being subsidized by England.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿; (1) North of a trillion pounds sterling and that is coming from the Governor of the Bank of England himself; kzhead.info/sun/iqupkd2snGmBh30/bejne.html (2) BBC guest lets slip Scotland's economy is worth £200 Billion to the UK kzhead.info/sun/acuDfdN8fKahm30/bejne.html (3) Plus just listen to David Cameron, admitting live on TV, what all us YES folk already know: kzhead.info/sun/i6yScq2jh5-liZ8/bejne.html (4) Something north of £200 billion from Scotland into England's, sorry UK's Bank account. kzhead.info/sun/nbqSkrSRsJmpoq8/bejne.html (5)Scotland: Wealthiest Country in Europe macalbasite.wordpress.com/.../scotland-the.../ Oh and for some good measure, this wee link below, might also help folk understand the myth about GERS reports; www.businessforscotland.com/gers-an-annual.../ Plus this documentary and the other links below, might also make people who are still unaware of the McRone Report, actually go and research it and find out the truth for themselves; Banned video, Scotlands Oil kzhead.info/sun/l7Fpetd6oZWuZX0/bejne.html

    @iceninja46@iceninja46 Жыл бұрын
  • Nicola Sturgeon is another Sally Albright: she wants to leave the UK but she wants to keep Sterling. And now she wants to join Europe, but she doesn't want the Euro... I don't think even Clark Kent could satisfy this lady!

    @philipstrachan6212@philipstrachan6212 Жыл бұрын
    • When did Sterling become English ? Thought that we were a “United” and “Equal” partnership, or us that just the pretext for keeping Scotland shackled to its English master !!

      @greensam7074@greensam7074 Жыл бұрын
  • As a Chinese of Hong Kong, I support Scotland independent.

    @chikeungchan503@chikeungchan503 Жыл бұрын
    • ccp

      @JJones-oi3jc@JJones-oi3jc Жыл бұрын
    • As Scottish person, I Don't support independence.

      @rangersmetalatheist9392@rangersmetalatheist93928 ай бұрын
  • Independence is never granted, it is taken, if Scotland wants to be independent of the UK it should declare it self so, write a Scottish Declaration of Independence, and a Constitution, and put it to the Scottish People to Vote on. The First step is to write the Documents, the second is to Repudiate the UK Court system, and Parliament, one can not be half a Revolutionary, you either are, or your are not.

    @mikecohen2400@mikecohen2400 Жыл бұрын
    • Scotland has its own Court system, its own Parliament, it’s own Church, it’s not even a common law jurisdiction. Some colony Ever heard of an “english colony” that wasn’t common law?

      @aleph8888@aleph8888 Жыл бұрын
    • exactly and that's where we are at, if no democratic path exists we are left with UDI and violence, such a shame.

      @melvinpenman1102@melvinpenman1102 Жыл бұрын
  • Social worker Ann does not seem to understand that the reason people are suffering is because England is dragging them down with their insanity.

    @kasper7203@kasper7203 Жыл бұрын
  • They seem you know... "supportive"... but that doesn't really seem like an "Independence Movement", looks more calm than a Soccer game really and these types of things require some passion and resilience

    @jedinite241@jedinite241 Жыл бұрын
    • Scotlands population are quite spread out, no such thing as a quick 200 mile round trip to the capital on the day it was released.

      @usheen6774@usheen6774 Жыл бұрын
    • She can pay for the scotish army navy and airforce, she can pay for the taxation for up keep of schools road infrastructure, power supplies gas, electric. she and the scots can pay for dental care and hospitals... and benefits for the sick , and for prescriptions. I Hope she has a good plan, she will need it.. BUT GUESS SHE HASN'T. SHE JUST WANTS TO MAKE A NAME FOR HERSELF. She has no idea or plan and the scots being stupid for the most part will end up paying for it all.. Actually i'll be glad to see you all go, and then i won't have to pay as much tax to keep all this running. But remember when you're gone you cannot re-join us and come back..

      @patrickdoyle9369@patrickdoyle9369 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah and it’s smaller than Yorkshire

      @RoadmanRob8@RoadmanRob8 Жыл бұрын
    • cool!

      @usheen6774@usheen6774 Жыл бұрын
    • @@patrickdoyle9369 All I was saying is not everyone lives in Edinburgh, Nothing about agreeing with anyone, but ok. what would I know I am just a stupid Scott.

      @usheen6774@usheen6774 Жыл бұрын
  • What a pity, but this is not the end...

    @briandbedford4178@briandbedford4178 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, under Sturgeon the SNP will fight for independence and never achieve it forever. That way they will maximize their share of election votes. And anyone who actually wants independence will be branded transphobic or have bogus attempted raped charges leveled against them to silence them. And Sturgeon will be the darling of captured media.

      @jayme3181@jayme3181 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes it is. There is nothing more that can be done

      @j_c2225@j_c2225 Жыл бұрын
    • Give it a rest already. She and the SNP are using indyref2 as a distraction from their crappy leadership and endless scandals.

      @Doughboy842@Doughboy842 Жыл бұрын
  • English Constituonlists would dissolve the Union and save the English Taxpayers £50 billion pounds per year. We would also abolish the abomination that is the Supreme Court and create an English-only Parliament and restore fully English Constitutional Law which is what the oath system is based on.

    @samrowbotham8914@samrowbotham8914 Жыл бұрын
    • Spoken like a true colonialist,watch this space we will be gone from your grip in no time.

      @jamescopland5898@jamescopland5898 Жыл бұрын
    • I see you believe what the msm tells you about Westminster "data"

      @julianshepherd2038@julianshepherd2038 Жыл бұрын
    • We are British Taxpayers.🇬🇧

      @Themanyfacesofego@Themanyfacesofego Жыл бұрын
    • @@jamescopland5898 Marxist filth

      @isengard1500@isengard1500 Жыл бұрын
  • It seems to me that if democracy really mattered to Angus and Nicola, they would have respected the will of the Scottish people in 2014 when they voted to stay in the UK. Instead they immediately, literally immediately, started demanding another referendum. They didn't even give it 24 hours after losing, they heard the result and immediately said they needed another referendum. If democracy really mattered to Angus and Nicola, they'd be listening to the overwhelming majority of Scots who want them to stop harping on about independence and focus their attention on delivering on services and the economy for the Scottish people. Instead they've got one issue and when they don't get their way they want to throw the rattle out of the stroller and have a tantrum. If they can't deliver for Scotland with the support of the union, what kind of a wasteland would Scotland become if Nicola got the job title she's in this for? Might I suggest that the way to Scottish independence is through an SNP government whom actually do a good job and make Scotland the best part of the UK through self funded services delivery, a strong diversified exports market outside of the UK, plenty of foreign investment, low poverty, high education and plenty of job opportunities... Then and only then would I ask the Scottish people if they can think of a reason to remain part of a union that only holds them back from being more than the Scottish government had already delivered. That's how I'd go about it anyway. I strongly suspect that the only reason the SNP haven't done exactly that is because they don't know how. That if they did know how they'd have been focusing on that instead of empty nationalism. They've delivered none of that and Scotland under SNP has the highest poverty rate in the UK. I hope the Scottish people send a strong message to the SMP at the next election that they aren't interested in independence right now, they want a strong Scotland first.

    @tjmarx@tjmarx Жыл бұрын
    • so democracy is a one time event according to the British, honestly , what a stupid statement.

      @melvinpenman1102@melvinpenman1102 Жыл бұрын
    • @@melvinpenman1102 Democracy is not. A referendum however, is.

      @tjmarx@tjmarx Жыл бұрын
    • I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on here and speculate that they're deliberately allowing the problems in Scotland to get worse. That way they can blame the English and get more support for another referedum!

      @jwatson9732@jwatson9732 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jwatson9732 Given Scotland has suffered every time SNP are in government, I suggest it's actually more likely incompetence on their part, and a ploy to initiate a referendum is giving them more credit than they're due.

      @tjmarx@tjmarx Жыл бұрын
    • @@tjmarx Brexit has split our nations apart we voted to remain by 24 points. Why do the English never see the consequences of their choices

      @RoCK3rAD@RoCK3rAD Жыл бұрын
  • Guess were not free and not a democracy then.

    @samgrainger1554@samgrainger1554 Жыл бұрын
    • Respect the 2014/2016 referendum votes or destroy your credibility on referendums in the future, just like Trump.

      @aleph8888@aleph8888 Жыл бұрын
    • So we're not a democracy because we actually have laws and courts in place to stop politicians doing things like holding illegitimate referenda? Makes perfect sense

      @DaBIONICLEFan@DaBIONICLEFan Жыл бұрын
    • @@DaBIONICLEFan the courts upholding laws is fantastic. Its the laws that need to change. Many people over history have lived under opression by law. Lawfully genocided, Lawfully lobotimised. The law is not a nuetral code. It is not decided what the law should be neutrally. And just becuse the law is the way it is, doesn't mean it should stay that way. If the courts had found in favor of the proposition that holyrood could have an advisory referendum then a referendum wouldnt have been lawful. Since they ruled that an advisory referndum would not be lawful the SNP aren't doing it. Its not the ruling that prevented an illegal referendum, it was the SNP'd desire to abide by the law that prevented an illigal referendum. Just a note: Legitamancy and legality are not one and the same. The blocking of a referendum by westminster is legal becuse it is codified. Its not however legitamate if we hold the first principle of democracy higher and believe in iy more than a particular constitutional arrangement.

      @samgrainger1554@samgrainger1554 Жыл бұрын
  • A reason more to push even stronger for independence

    @wildmatters8578@wildmatters8578 Жыл бұрын
    • By Law they can not become independent

      @peterwilliamallen1063@peterwilliamallen1063 Жыл бұрын
    • @@peterwilliamallen1063 By some laws in the not so distant past, slaves were the property of their master. Laws can and should be broken, if they are WRONG. Those who make change unlawful, will see their 'laws' changed, peacefully or otherwise.

      @doom8082@doom8082 Жыл бұрын
    • @@doom8082 What has this got to do with the fact that the UK supreme court reused Scottish independence and who are the slaves you are referring too, who are the masters, and do you actually know that the British Government was the first Country to abolish Slavery.

      @peterwilliamallen1063@peterwilliamallen1063 Жыл бұрын
    • @@peterwilliamallen1063 If you are denied the right to independence/self determination, you are by definition a slave. It's wonderful that it abolished slavery decades after benefiting from it. So progressive of them. But apparently being slave-drivers is in their blood, UK continues to enslave the people who they 'govern' by denying their most fundamental rights.

      @doom8082@doom8082 Жыл бұрын
  • She moans there no democracy because she wants to over turn a DEMOCRATIC vote 😂 she is beyond delusional 😂

    @jimmartin8950@jimmartin8950 Жыл бұрын
    • Democracy is a process, not an event.

      @henrimacaulay835@henrimacaulay835 Жыл бұрын
  • should let Scotland have a referendum and i expect people to vote to stay in the union. It's not the best time to have a referendum with the Ukraine war, energy crisis, and other economic issues, but people in Scotland have the right to decide.

    @vinay7397@vinay7397 Жыл бұрын
    • What's in it for Scotland to stay? The UK is over. It's time for everyone to move on.

      @jackdubz4247@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
    • England's law has had its chips today good bye.!

      @grahamfleming8139@grahamfleming8139 Жыл бұрын
    • That's the thing about life there will always be other issues if you put everything on hold for other issues you get nowhere

      @annemitchell6144@annemitchell6144 Жыл бұрын
    • We're not going anywhere mate 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

      @rangersmetalatheist9392@rangersmetalatheist93928 ай бұрын
  • Greetings to all Scottish people from a fellow Quebec independentist!

    @PatrioteQuebecois@PatrioteQuebecois Жыл бұрын
  • It isn’t a ‘Union’ if one of the parties is held against their will.

    @eamonnsiocain6454@eamonnsiocain6454 Жыл бұрын
    • True, but that's not the case in the UK whatsoever.

      @Yamezzzz@Yamezzzz Жыл бұрын
    • ...and how is this true for the UK? Do you not remember 2014? One woman and her cabal has an obsession and who is frequently in the media. This does not equate to the whole of Scotland wanting out.

      @DaBIONICLEFan@DaBIONICLEFan Жыл бұрын
    • @@DaBIONICLEFan isn't the idea of consent that it has to be given throughout

      @SIGSEGV1337@SIGSEGV1337 Жыл бұрын
    • @@DaBIONICLEFan: In case it had bypassed you, the Scottish independence movement is far bigger than just Sturgeon or the SNP.

      @MontyCantsin5@MontyCantsin5 Жыл бұрын
    • @@MontyCantsin5 Where? Polls are largely the same as in 2014, i.e. independence is a minority view. Most Scots do not even want another referendum anytime soon, check the latest polling.

      @DaBIONICLEFan@DaBIONICLEFan Жыл бұрын
  • Forecast for Irish GDP (Gross Domestic Product) growth in 2022 ~ 8.7%.

    @orsomebricks6635@orsomebricks6635 Жыл бұрын
  • The majority of eligible Scottish voters 75%, did not vote for "independence" silly sad crankie has failed she must go.............

    @auldflyer@auldflyer Жыл бұрын
  • Why Westminster and this silly journalist keep talking about 2014 referendum? If they are so confident about Scotland wanting to remain in the uk as it happened in 2014, then let the referendum take place!!! They are scaredddddd cause they know Scotland will vote for independence and join EU

    @Hugomad2@Hugomad2 Жыл бұрын
  • In the words of Brexiteers..when will the will of the people be respected? Scotland wants to be free from unelected bureaucrats in Westminster, free to control their own destiny?

    @KamLovesArsenal@KamLovesArsenal Жыл бұрын
    • Who are you to speak for all of Scotland? Think I'll refer to the actual democratic results like in 2014 when it was a no.

      @DaBIONICLEFan@DaBIONICLEFan Жыл бұрын
    • there already was a referendum

      @sqwalnoc@sqwalnoc Жыл бұрын
    • Yea before the 2016 referendum when Scotland voted more convincingly to remain in the EU. Stop saying 2014, I voted Blair in 97, that's means nothing today. Oh and do you care to address the part of the 2014 vote where David Cameron said voting to leave would mean losing out on the European Union?

      @KamLovesArsenal@KamLovesArsenal Жыл бұрын
  • Good luck Scotland🤞🏻👏✌

    @robertskolimowski7049@robertskolimowski7049 Жыл бұрын
    • Good luck Scotland make it better for yourself love you all especially celtic supporters they are akin and the same as us Liverpool supporters.

      @John-pp9pc@John-pp9pc Жыл бұрын
    • Don't give up you still have friends. Don't give up you arn't beaten yet. Don't give up we know that you'll make it good !

      @thomscott1247@thomscott1247 Жыл бұрын
    • @@thomscott1247 3 cheers for Scotland

      @John-pp9pc@John-pp9pc Жыл бұрын
    • Utter Madness it would be like having Texas as in independant country inside the USA. There is always strength in being a big Nation

      @davidhall4499@davidhall4499 Жыл бұрын
    • @@John-pp9pc gypos

      @wodens-hitman1552@wodens-hitman1552 Жыл бұрын
  • Was 2014 Scottish Independence a democratic vote or do you keep having referendums till you get the answer you want

    @732466@732466 Жыл бұрын
  • Scotland has been self-governing for decades now. So if people are unhappy, why is the SNP not held responsible? And how will poor self-governance be improved by independence?

    @ltho5616@ltho5616 Жыл бұрын
    • Hardly, Westminster control the purse, control the funds and you control everything.

      @New-ye2fl@New-ye2fl Жыл бұрын
  • Sturgeon had been telling voters that they could vote SNP and it would not mean support for Independence, that is until she is in power, then supposedly they supported Separating. 
At least attempting to make the next Holyrood Election about separation is more honest, except, they cannot prove that all voters were thinking the same and they would actually be electing individual members, with all the plusses and minuses of those individual candidates.

    @ParcelOfRogue@ParcelOfRogue Жыл бұрын
    • Totally agree

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
    • She can pay for the scotish army navy and airforce, she can pay for the taxation for up keep of schools road infrastructure, power supplies gas, electric. she and the scots can pay for dental care and hospitals... and benefits for the sick , and for prescriptions. I Hope she has a good plan, she will need it.. BUT GUESS SHE HASN'T. SHE JUST WANTS TO MAKE A NAME FOR HERSELF. She has no idea or plan and the scots being stupid for the most part will end up paying for it all.. Actually i'll be glad to see you all go, and then i won't have to pay as much tax to keep all this running. But remember when you're gone you cannot re-join us and come back..

      @patrickdoyle9369@patrickdoyle9369 Жыл бұрын
    • @@patrickdoyle9369 she has no plan, it’s all bravado. She’s now a lame duck. Good riddance to one of the most divisive, dangerous politicians in Europe

      @Mountainman2468@Mountainman2468 Жыл бұрын
    • Well SNP has campaigned for independence since it came into existence. If you didn't pick that up before voting then you probably have brain damage.

      @ceemmm3526@ceemmm3526 Жыл бұрын
  • You would think after 15yrs in government the SNP might be able to explain to the electorate how the basics of independence will work...... 1. Currency. 2. Hard border with England and N Ireland. 3. Reduce the massive deficit without raising taxes . 4. Persuade Spain to let us join the EU. The Scottish people demand explanations!

    @Pennyburn1688@Pennyburn1688 Жыл бұрын
  • I do think its time for a countrywide vote. I would vote they leave. They leave with nothing from London. No grants, no currency. No peoples pensions. Nothing. And no coming back.

    @toke7560@toke7560 Жыл бұрын
    • Hear hear!

      @craig581@craig581 Жыл бұрын
    • we are happy with that, go tell your MP. please

      @melvinpenman1102@melvinpenman1102 Жыл бұрын
  • You expect anti democratic behavior from the Tories but Labour should be ashamed to ignoring the democratic mandate given by the Scottish people, Red Tartan Tories indeed

    @endlesssabbatical9612@endlesssabbatical9612 Жыл бұрын
    • Less than 50% of scots voted for SNP in 2021. By those figures remain would win again so there's no mandate

      @teddypicker8799@teddypicker8799 Жыл бұрын
    • The only anti-democrats here are the SNP. They are the ones that want to quite literally ignore the democratic laws of the UK. Also, ftr, the amount of Scots who want a second referendum are in a minority according to all the polls.

      @Afterthoughtbtw@Afterthoughtbtw Жыл бұрын
  • Well, the Soviet Union tried to keep the Baltic states back in their Union too. But if people really want to be free , no court in the World can stop them...

    @Tejiknasten@Tejiknasten Жыл бұрын
    • People like you don't listen, we don't want independence as we stated in 2014 what's so hard to understand !!!

      @bobbaxter1356@bobbaxter1356 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bobbaxter1356 you lied to stop Independence where is the guaranteed EU citizenship that was promised, the majority now supports Independence after being taken out of the EU after we voted 62% to remain in the EU

      @SaorAlba1970@SaorAlba1970 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bobbaxter1356 Well, it's been nearly nine years since then, it's a long time in any human's life. Many of today's citizens were not allowed to vote back in 2014.

      @Tejiknasten@Tejiknasten Жыл бұрын
  • Of course the court decided this... can you imagine being the judge that accepted to destroy the UK more than it is now?!??

    @etiennedelaunois1737@etiennedelaunois1737 Жыл бұрын
    • What do you mean “destroy UK”? Some people want to be independent and their masters deny them that right. Simple as that.

      @shredseeker8420@shredseeker8420 Жыл бұрын
    • The court gave the true situation of the law.

      @johnmckie6896@johnmckie6896 Жыл бұрын
    • @@johnmckie6896 yep! in a criminal case. This is not a criminal matter. The decision had to be made by the judges of the Supreme Court which has nothing to do with a text but with the interpretation of an act around a text. A referendum is a vote but is not a political decision. A referendum is an opinion poll, not a political decision. The reason why a referendum is not hold on every political decision is the cost. Now if Hollyrood wanted to hold a vote about independance, that would be illegal, as legally, it is Westminster's decision if such a vote can take place in the Scottish parliement or not. A referendum is not a vote. Brexit wasn't done because of the fact of the referendum. So the decision of a referendum in Scotland or anywhere in the UK in this case, is purely the interpretation of the judges. They will never allow a referendum that would add into UK's division.

      @etiennedelaunois1737@etiennedelaunois1737 Жыл бұрын
  • i just dont see scotland getting benefits from leaving and trying to rejoin the eu, just creates more problems for both countries, like if SNP did have a majority in parliament, and the polls suggested a clear pro-independence majority, then it would make sense to allow them to do a vote. but it's such a split idea in scotland, i just dont see it benefiting scotland as a whole. i find it similar to brexit, how the problems will "go away" and "we will get our independence". if they did get independence (as of now), it would be very divided topic just like brexit, and would cause more economic problems. for you reading this, i am neither pro union or independence: i like to look at both sides and see what is the best decision at this current point in time. i am open to the idea that they get a referendum in the future, but as of now, they shouldnt.

    @deadlyplumjellyproductions@deadlyplumjellyproductions Жыл бұрын
  • Just as how Kashmir is referred to "Indian occupied Kashmir" or "Pakistan occupied Kashmir", I'm now calling Scotland "England occupied Scotland". What say everyone? 🤣

    @antonydevadass4856@antonydevadass4856 Жыл бұрын
    • I agree. It's no longer a union when one partner is forced to stay.

      @ladymeldiriel9486@ladymeldiriel9486 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ladymeldiriel9486 what beats me, is the number of people who keep saying there are other more important issues that the Scottish government should focus on, such as cost of living etc. But isn't that exactly the point why the SNP is wanting to part ways? I remember when they were told specifically that by leaving the union, they are actually leaving the bigger European Union, then Brexit happens, and now Scotland should shut up and stay?

      @antonydevadass4856@antonydevadass4856 Жыл бұрын
    • @@antonydevadass4856 It is the point exactly, the Scottish electorate vote for policies not represented by the westminster parties. Scotland is literally a different country, own legal system, education system etc, and the people don't vote Con or Labour. It's time to dissolve the union, let England do brexit alone, let them profligate hate and intolerance in the south, no-one else wanted it. And let Wales be free too.

      @Daijyobanai@Daijyobanai Жыл бұрын
    • OK, what about all the Scottish in England ? "Scotland occupied England" ?

      @randomcomputer7248@randomcomputer7248 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ladymeldiriel9486 "forced to stay" - The Union won the last "once in a lifetime vote" you Muppet

      @randomcomputer7248@randomcomputer7248 Жыл бұрын
  • Sturgeon doesn’t know the meaning of the word Democracy PERIOD

    @derrydoire1864@derrydoire1864 Жыл бұрын
  • Neither was there a substantial majority for Brexit, the first independence vote in Scotland was prior to the Brexit referendum happening didn't have anything to do with the original Scottish independence referendum so much has changed...

    @dambrooks7578@dambrooks7578 Жыл бұрын
    • You nailed it

      @franciscouderq1100@franciscouderq1100 Жыл бұрын
  • ...ah yes, the countries of the West are ruled by courts. That reality should sink in, as well as the necessity to judge the judges. But how? Where does it end? Think of the bizarre fate of Julian Assange in England, or the never ending impeding of US government actions by federal judges. And there is a horde of these all across the country. Just go to State N with a sympathetic judge, file a law suit and block the national executive, see the Student Loan Forgiveness as an example. Simple, a reality of our times. In this European case, the illusion of "self-determination" came again to a collision course with the power of ruling shadow class and their courts. At the least no one get arrested and thrown to he jail, or hunted by Interpol, as the Spanish do it with Catalan. Or the French with Corsican, Occitans or Alsatians. We are living in a little hypocritical hole, but its probably the best we can do as people.

    @ThomasHalways@ThomasHalways Жыл бұрын
  • Uk heading south after Brexit have become a laughing stock globally with the revolving door of PM's, I can see what Scotland want out and to rejoin the European Union.

    @craigmoy5457@craigmoy5457 Жыл бұрын
    • We can’t rejoin the EU

      @michaelmcmillan979@michaelmcmillan979 Жыл бұрын
    • You can rejoin the EU. But you must adopt the Euro currency and reduce your national debt by years of austerity and tax increases.

      @ynwa3476@ynwa3476 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ynwa3476 1.Spain won’t let us 2. Exactly, it will take years to reduce the deficit from 10% to the require 3% 3. Can think of nothing worse then the flawed Euro

      @michaelmcmillan979@michaelmcmillan979 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ynwa3476 If they go that route, I think we need to build a huge wall over the border to stop them moving to England and shitting this country up as well. There's already enough problems down here!

      @jwatson9732@jwatson9732 Жыл бұрын
  • If Scotts really want to leave UK, what can UK do? All it takes is one sided declaration of independence, that is it.

    @duhni4551@duhni4551 Жыл бұрын
    • No currency, no economic plan ,no plans whatsoever.

      @aurockscastillo5460@aurockscastillo5460 Жыл бұрын
    • @vix ruinarum parva vestigia Life goes on, what else. I think they want to get back to EU, given that Scotts voted against Brexit (majority)

      @duhni4551@duhni4551 Жыл бұрын
    • @@aurockscastillo5460 EUR, they do have economic plans and they do have plans in general too, leaving UK doesn't really affect Scotland as much as people thinks. Though i think they want to join EU, so for that, everything would get back to normal for them.

      @duhni4551@duhni4551 Жыл бұрын
    • @@duhni4551 they could put pressure on Westminster for a referendum for the uk to rejoin the eu or a independence referendum,if they were smart but they are not.

      @aurockscastillo5460@aurockscastillo5460 Жыл бұрын
    • @@aurockscastillo5460 As you see, Scotland is powerless against Westminster, they have 0 way to pressure them, they lack the voting power. All they can really do is to just declare independence one sidedly, then join EU if EU membership is what they really want. They have to declare it one sidedly because as you see, they need permission for referendum from Westminster. So your proposals really don't work, they would lead to nothing.

      @duhni4551@duhni4551 Жыл бұрын
  • I don’t know why instead of working on current economic situation SNP wants to divide The United Kingdom 🇬🇧 and waste the tax payers money on another referendum where Scottish people have already voted to remain in the union through a once in a lifetime referendum.

    @nokibnoor3027@nokibnoor3027 Жыл бұрын
    • The referendum was fought on the basis that an independent Scotland would be thrown out of the European Union, while the English Brexiteers kept quiet about their plans for the UK to leave the EU. The "unique selling point" of the referendum was the importance of remaining in the EU. That was a false prospectus.

      @faithlesshound5621@faithlesshound5621 Жыл бұрын
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