Russia Captured a Bradley. What does That mean for NATO and Russia?
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Russians have finally captured a Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle. In the past there were several claims that they have done it, but all of them turned out to be false. But this time it is real, they showcased it on national television, where they described how it was captured and some of the components of the vehicle and what will be studied...
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You are by far my favourite KZheadr
What happened to warthunder sponsorship?
The Bradley is just a SLIGHTLY safer, light armored vehicle for personnel transport to the front line. It is NOT a magical vehicle. Russia has lost MANY THOUSANDS of tanks and armored vehicles, from the lowest grade kinds from WW2 to the best that the Russian military has been able to field in a war that has killed or wounded 500,000 Ukrainians and Russians. "Capturing" one (or 2 or 5) badly damaged US donated Bradley(s) ---- or even capturing an Abram, or a Leopard, or a Challenger, etc. ---- IS NOT GONNA CHANGE SHIT for the Russians in Ukraine! In 5 to 10 years AFTER the war, when they have time to sit down to study & to copy it, sure. But didn't Trump's genius friend, Comrade KGB Col Putin proudly boast Russia's military technologies --- which DO NOT operate using the high-end chips fabricated in Taiwan, the US, Japan, South Korea, or Western Europe, from where 100% of the world HIGH-END CHIPS must come ---- were "decades ahead of the West"?
Ukraine Nato Army is not Match For the russians butthurts
They already captured Swedish CV90 with anti-thermal protection. That is way bigger deal than these Bradleys.
they have it to wrap T90M, too
I doubt that they would reverse engineer that
you mean that sheed that cover the vehicle? i think Russia have one too
ruskis already have anti thermal protection sheets
@@lucks_zh5959 well Russians had their own anti-thermal protection but iirc the Ukrainians managed to capture one on T90M
They only learned what they already knew about the Bradley from the War Thunder Forums.
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Be sure that Russia has delivered this Bradley to Iran by now 🤣 and next year you should wait for the release of video and photos of the upgraded and more advanced Iranian Bradley.🙄😅
@@pishi369 yeah. the Iranian upgrade is a goat duck taped to it.
This means that Kubinka Tank Museum gets another really cool exhibit 5 - 10 years from now, and basically nothing else.
Bovington and Kubinka recieving new stuff for collection
Back in 1987, Soviet schools had a subject called “initial military training.” the textbook indicated weak points suitable for defeating the M113 armored personnel carrier.
Man, we still have this subject every week)
We have also met M113 in a Video game "Operation Flashpoint" (2001)...
@@user-ds4tt3ts7oThat was a great game. I used to spawn enemy tanks and fly the Su25/Ah64 and shoot them. But the copilot was too annoying so i disabled it and placed manual control
@@r.p5380 , this game is still available in the net. I still Play it everyday. Do you know the secret how to save your mission multiple times? I can tell you.
I’d imagine they got quite a few from Vietnam to test out
I doubt that Russia will learn much from these older Bradleys that they did not already know. They have quite an extensive intelligence network.
These Bradleys given to Ukraine are old US stock left from the 90's and early 2000's. I would be surprised if they didn't know a thing or two about them. But hey, then there's that sweet PR value coming from filming it on state television. So that's what Russia is most likely after rather than researching the vehicle's capabilities.
@@wolfyys right, but the main issue is to fit the dual feed system on the already cramped bmp and bmd
Yeah, about all they'll really learn is the ride quality. Everything else should be known to them already unless they're a lot worse at intel gathering than anyone thought. Even the Autocannon thing, it's kinda baffling they struggled with that all things considered.
But it will help the to find wich of their sources can get accurate information.
2A42 has a dual feed since the first days it was put into service. @@wolfyys
The Bradley is hardly some unknown secret advancement in technology. People are forgetting the the platform was introduced in the 1980's and has only had standard upgrades that all modern militaries are capable of; improved protection, better thermals, ect... So people acting like Russia will gain some unknown knowledge from reverse engineering are crazy. Its just an IFV like what every modern country is capable of producing. And the argument of "they captured it to test its firepower to create their own counters to it" doesnt really hold much strength once you remember back to the Russians showcasing their T-15 IFV's... which they have managed to only produce a handful of...
Even if they did reverse engineer it, they couldn’t get the electronic parts to make them
However, this has made the US put more restrictions on allowing modern technology in their packages The biggest gain that Russia got during the Ukrainian counter offensive was the Black Hornet nano-drones,these were captured by the Russian Special forces which put a stiff resistance and even counter-attacked the 47th Nato-trained Mechanised brigade, they're so so small that you can hold them in the palm of your hand This was enough to keep America sending drones to Ukraine It's also a warning for other nations to send modern equipment to Ukraine, but also a reason why they never use their own modern equipment,unless like Nato intervenes or something.
The US was aware of such a risk prior to the conflict, and hence have even though given equipment to Ukraine, it's not going to change the situation, providing weapon for such a purpose would only put your research in jeopardy, Russia has tried to do the same, also because Ukraine is mostly Soviet equipment, they will produce their own domestic equipment in 2024,which has proven to be more effective then Western equipment for obvious reasons., their only solution hence would be to send hundreds of tanks and equipment and ammunition, otherwise you're just prolonging the suffering.
Counter point: Russia capturing a 50 year old military vehicle gives them access to tech 30 years ahead of their military tech.
@@nbewarweexactly! They’re looking at it as if it’s some super weapon 😂 (After insulting how bad it was and how little of a difference it will make when it first arrived) but now they’ve captured one it’s all of a sudden a marvel…
For the Russians they already knew about the M2 Bradley because back in the 1980s when M2 Gen Omar Bradley was new they sent in SOXMIS/SMLM soldiers deep into American sector of West Germany to get intel on M2 Bradley. The same way as how the UK/US and France had Military Liason Soldiers in East Germany Russian satelite state to gather information on BMP-2/3 BTR-80 T-72 & T-80 Tanks 40 years later war trophies from Ukraine on their modern versions.
Lmao... Those rustic Russians are flocking to it and watching it with wonder like a group of villagers flocking together and watching a nice car that the rich guy from the village recently bought it. Those rustic Russians are immensely thrilled and intrigued to see and touch something that was made by a developed and advanced nation. Pretty sure those high ranking russian officials will be stealing a scrap from it and keep them in their house on a pedestal or hang it in their living room as an artifact of luxury to show the poor folks that they possess something that was made from a superior country. It'll become a part of family heirloom and henceforth will be addressed as "Ivan the possessor of western technology" by their village folks.
@@Dimapur Let us not pretend that the US or Western democracy, in general, is something more advanced or beneficent in comparison to Putin's Euroasianism when it comes to the prosperity of each of the nations. As for technology, all that which the Western world possesses nowadays, even Russia or China as well, is derived from the technological remains of Reich, or what was cut into by it. How and when!? One can only speculate at this point and under these circumstances. Those who know, they know. However, all of it they know or possess anyhow remains meager & backward, or as one would say "conventional" in comparison to what was re-discovered by the secret order of SS behind the scenes of history and rational science. That is yet to be revealed to the world in the climax of the international dramas. Until then, we will often witness how the pot tends to call the kettle black in hypocritical arguments of both sides at the pretext of nazism. How petty of 'em, to say at least. Nevertheless, we indeed live in great times.
@@DimapurStop the cap
@@DimapurNAFOtards trying not to be idiots (impossible)
@@SomeOne-xm5mqMan, you seem to have some great stuff if you think that racist german scientists from 80 years ago with no access to modern calculating or mathematical tools were that advanced. Care to share some?
No way this was Russia’s first opportunity to test a 25mm Bushmaster. They’ve been around almost 50 years, in service all over the world. Maybe they’ll learn something about our ERA packs, but it’s not like those are the latest and greatest. Also if the next gen of Russian RGP rounds are specifically designed to defeat only one protection package they’ll be useless pretty quick. They already have duplex RPG warheads.
Russia even have RPGs with decoys to work against APS. After all, Soviet Union was the first country that created fielded, not experimental, APS.
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Captured American junk lol
oh my god this era is a piece of crap, there is nothing to study there, you are delusional
all American arms just copy from russia and other country, now their copying hyper sonic missiles and super sonic
The Bradley's are of the ODS variant. ODS stands for Operation Desert Storm, meaning they captured a Bradley with 30 year old tech.
Yep.. it’s old tech.
you must be so naive to believe this. There is the latest technology in terms of guidance and cmmunication equipments and russians will use tis to fine tune their own capabilities on how to jam communications or easily identify them for destruction.There are even reports they might have captured a working leopard tank.
These aren't the original ODS's These are upgraded ODS"s. I commanded ODS's in Vilseck Germany. One huge upgrade is the drivers thermal camera.
These are upgraded ODSs, With modern US ERA. Stop coping
It won’t matter if the Bradley is 70 or 80 years old !! The Russians aren’t gonna do any reverse engineering or copy it !! They will paint it and show to its people in the military park in Moscow where a lot of NATO tech are been displayed .. the hall of Shame as people calls.
They even managed to capture a Leopard 2A4 and take it home to be dismantled
They just recently captured a Leopard 2A6 as well, looking forward to your video on that too if you make one. Heard some people saying they'd use it against Ukraine, but they don't have tons of ammo or parts or training for it so more than likely it'll just end up in a war museum as a trophy in Moscow somewhere after they're done studying it.
The Parts that make the leopard the best Tank in the world are well known by everyone. they just cant copy them because they dont have the knowhow to reporduce them. The documentation for 2 of the 3 main strongpoints have been on the internet for 2 decades but russia and china just can reproduce the engine and the suspension. the gun is a bit more well kept but there is no way the russians didnt had those information before.
@nox5555 Russians have the know-how your a bit stupid if you think they can't. Russians have a different need when needing a tank they just don't need a 60ton plus tank dafty.
@@nox5555 Why? does the Leopard use nanomachines?
@@nox5555what conflicts was it used in to be proclaimed the best? Pieces of shit got btfoed in Turkey and Ukraine, the only conflicts it was involved in in 40 years
unless russian able to capture an area where leopards were maintained/serviced, they won't use it as a combat vehicle as they only have a few of 120mm ammo
These are at least desert storm or older Bradleys, this is why they don't send newer stuff to help countries, it's inevitable to have equipment be taken by the other side.
if it was desert storm or older then ukies will never try to destroy it and prevent capturing so hard. Other vehiles were abandoned easily and now exposed in Patriot park museum
Desert was cake walk than Ukraine please stop making comparisons. Bradley sucks and inferior firepower. Cv90 does better job in all aspects compared to Bradley and bmp3.
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 so you guys inhaled so much austrian painter's dust so you started accuse in inferiority not just russains but each other?
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 i wasn't comparing the conflicts, these Bradleys are the same Bradleys or same era of desert storm, and CV-90 should its a newer platform.
@@ImPedofinderGeneral did you suffer from PTSD?
If they ain't losing them them ain't using them. Coming from a communication background I personally would be more concerned with any cryptographic communication materials that might have been left inside and not destroyed or " zeroed out " have no idea what gear was given to the Ukrainians but finding a way listen to someones secured communications would be far more valuable than a damaged Bradley.
You'd think all vehicles have a reset button, especially the west. Learned about it this war that Russian helicopters has a button that the pilot must push that erases all information on the computers, radios, cameras etc if they are shot down behind enemy lines.
@@muffy469they do, i won’t tell you where it is located, but there is one in there.
I doubt if they recover any key material that that's good for more than 24 hours. What may be an issue is them dumping FPGAs and firmware and finding vulnerabilities.
True I wouldn’t be such a bitch about losses because it means they are using them a tank is a tank a landmine will fuck it up either way
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle A captured/destroyed tank is useless, but lets ignore that fact. How do you justify Ukr and NATO mercenaries failing to take any territory from the DPR/LPR since 2014 (and 8:1 losses for the Ukr side)?
Nothing. The Bradley doesn't contain any secrets the Russians don't already know, especially the older Bradley versions.
To give you an idea. The model captured was a modified Bradley M2A2. Last produced in 1995.
that's why these videos are so funny "what does it mean??" bro who cares, if Russia doesn't have something better by now this shit aint gonna do it for them lol.
@@jorgeenchiladaБМП 3 лучше в разы чем бредли
@@user-pk2vh3ug4pруссоназисы будут сражаться до последнего орка за черноморский особняк путина. они превратит вас, дегенератов, в горы трупов, пока вы не перестанете атаковать
@@user-pk2vh3ug4p и поэтому их уничтожают в разы больше?
@@namesurname624 Потому что их построено в разы больше ;)
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The purpose and use of capturing tech from other nations is so misunderstood just from looking at the comments. As an engineer one of the best ways to learn and get better at your field is by observing and dissecting other peoples work, you don't expect to see crazy alien tech. Instead what you strive to do is to look at how they solved similar issues to what your teams encountered, can we borrow some of the solutions? Is our solution better? can we improve a system by incorporating part of their system into ours? Stuff like that, nothing specific is sought after, solutions in general are.
Well said my friend. Problem is NAfo bots have such russophobia that anything Russia does or say is considered inferior. It's nothing new since ww2 misconceptions of Russians. Ww3 will prove again how NAfo bots will lose again like they did before
Its true ..in bradleys they need the secret of the armour ..in himars russians need secret in science and accuracy ..
Or how to best break their solutions. Theoretical concepts are fine, but live testing is best
@@samuelgitau4702 sorry confirmed by Russians both weapons are inferior to bmp3 and tornado.
Thank you! Market research and reverse engineering are the first things any design team does before even bothering to try original/innovative design. And even when going for innovation, you still never try to solve every little tiny problem from scratch. You focus on reimagining a very specific aspect, or else, you end up with an unworkable innovation soup that goes way over monetary and time budget then flops. Looking at comment sections like these with people thinking that classified designs are anything more than the product of tedious work and application of fundamental concepts and methods from decades and even centuries ago, that end up sharing like 99% of the base design is top tier cringe. For all we know, they may end up throwing thermal imagers, armaments and other stuff that the average youtube tank "expert" creams their pants over, and adopt or build on a freaking dashboard component from the driver's station or something else no one would even come close thinking of. Oh. And let's not forget how DESIGN REQUIREMENTS work. One man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa. The Russians may view the specifications most vaunted and cherished by the Yanks on some design, as a complete waste of time and money. Vastly different military doctrines lead to design bureaus getting vastly different design requirements for a type of project, subsequently yielding vastly different designs, that may however satisfy their respective requirements to the exact same extent.
Has Russia seriously never got their hands on a Bradley before, I assumed they would have.
most of them struck mines and then were shot up by arty in no mans land
Thousands have been produced for other countries. If Russia hasn't acquired one long ago indirectly, then only because they weren't really interested.
They captures a whole Leo A6 that's the real news from few days ago
There have been many videos that show soldiers with captured bradleys that have been abandoned or just taken down. But nothing on this level where they take it back home fully and examine it on national TV.
@@chocolateneko9912 Many is a massive exaggeration. The US didn't even give them 200. They never had many to begin with. To date some 29 have been lost, mostly damaged, some destroyed, this one captured.
They didnt go in the turret, which is funny because all the interior of the bradley is publicly available except the turret.
Thank you for this update
I doubt they would learn anything tech-wise as the much of tech used is pretty well known but learning the difference in cultural thinking in the design of the Bradley compared to BMPs might give them second thoughts on what they've been doing throughout the course of the war.
Every piece of western armor has been screaming crew survivability in their face for the last 50 years and they still dont care
Getting more precise data on the various systems is still valuable considering the vehicle is still in use.
@@Slavic_Goblinno if it was tha latest Bradley then it be celebration but no got older model with just armory package
@victorsawyers6227 Although it's an older model, it's literally in use against them, so Russia getting a better idea on it's capabilities is very useful for them.
M2A2's were last produced in 1995.@@Slavic_Goblin
Regarding the removed autocannon: might be worth it to examine the metallurgy used. My understanding is that the common Russian 30mm, the 2A42, is notoriously inaccurate at long ranges. I suspect it was made with comparatively soft steel and the barrel flexes a bunch. Might be worth it have a look at the materials science involved, but I'm confident none of it is truely groundbreaking to the Russians.
Russia has good understanding of metallurgy. They can make a couple yes, the issue is they do not have the industry to mass produce these things.
Exactly, economic constraints have prevented many upgrades, improvements and next gen developments not lack of knowledge.
Actually, 2A42 supposed inaccuracy might have more to do with ammo, action, stabilisation and way it is mounted.
@@vdotmeif US had Russian 1990s, US would still be demolished country from "the second civil war". Or to try to imagine in it in reverse: US government simply nationalize top companies and says "screw you" to shareholders.
@@piotrd.4850 Kinda this, as AFAIK gun was designed to be compact and lightweight. When mounted in BMP-3/BMD-4 with 100mm cannon acting as stabilizer, it gets decently accurate. Standalone mounts like on BTRs are a problem
They have already captured multiple western vehicles and are even on display. Jackson Hinkle showed them on his visit to Moscow. Before KZhead banned him.
can't have anything positive from the russians online...they are evil according to my government
Ok and? Jackson Hinkle is a coward bootlicker
Cool. They now get to see what a good IFV looks like.
Thank you for your work, I would also like to get some analysis on the 1 unsuccessful Leopard 1A5 fight.
Bad use of tanks like this whole war...
just another curio for the Kubinka tank museum😁
This is not the first Bradley captured, there are already at least 3 pieces. They are mostly broken down, this option is relatively intact
Its literally just a IFV not some B52 stealth bomber.
So they have their own ERA, that they can test on, but now they got the bradley ERA and it's gonna change everything?
That is Murican ERA, totally different than communist thing with similar sounding name!
I don't think it will change everything. But they could get some data at least
@@cyka7705yes, helpful data how to easier defeat this particular configuration/composition. Something newsworthy? No, not really.
Bradley A2 is not amphibious at all. The floating screen amphibioua capability was deleted for more weight in order to supposedly make it 30mm proof from feont and sides.
Did they really expected to make a IFV withstand 30mm APDS?
@@VIPER276 supposedly they achieved it, according to them
@@MatoVuc Am not sure about that sometime you see videos of Bradley's crippled with holes all over them.
@@VIPER276 up to you if you believe them, but i think the things being slung against said bradleys are a little more potent than 30x160mm APDS from a "classified" distance
@@MatoVuc "Speaking of survivability, despite the Russian claims of Bradley kills, Ukraine highlighted an impressive success story for the vehicle. On June 15, 2023, Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar posted an image on Telegram of a Bradley that reportedly took a direct hit from a Russian GRAD rocket. Maliar reports that the entire crew survived and evacuated the vehicle, noting the Bradley is now undergoing repairs."
I'll point out that this configuration of the bradley ifv is still in service in the US Army and will continue to serve until at least the 2040s. The current replacement program, the xm 30, is just another experimental vehicle in a line of experimental vehicles since the late 1980s. Interestingly enough the xm 30 requirements are very similar to the kurganetz ifv in terms of technology and capability. The reality is the the bradley ifvs are well understood technology on par with the bmp 2 family of vehicles, just with slightly better electronics. There's nothing for the Russians to reverse engineer as they already went down the same upgrade path with their vehicles decades ago just like the US. The vehicle will likely be used for familiarization and public display much like Russian vehicles that find their way into US hands. This changes nothing for anyone.
This also isn't the first captured Bradley. The first got captured months ago right at the beginning of the counteroffensive.
There is nothing in Bradley that does not exist in Russia. The main problem is that Russia cannot print money and make expensive things. Therefore, the equipment always achieves maximum productivity at a minimum price.
Its hardly a problem , but rather it’s an advantage 😂
Well, a 152mm HE shell in Russia is about 500 USD, while for NATO the average price of a 155mm HE is 10x. I guess these 3mm difference make a huge difference to justify the price :)
@doublehelix7880 you dont understand economics... a ham sandwitch in new york is 22$, a ham sandwitch in jamaica is 3$... its not because jamaica has a strong economy... russia has cheap stuff because their workers work for less
When the US can print 0-value dollars Russia also can do the same, but Russia is not such as stupid like the US with their 3rd world infrastructure and more than 100 trillions of debts 😂😂😂🇷🇺
@@Wildboy789789 Oh, I understand it pretty well. But what you do not understand is that the Russians are getting way more bang for their buck and their MIC is way more effective as it does not needs to generate huge margins for the shareholders.
Didn't we leave hundreds in the middle east? I am sure they have already had a look.
Exactly. This is 20+ year outdated technology.
Those were M-113 APC
Are you sure that US left Bradleys in Afghanistan!!?? I have seen a lot of M113s and other trucks but no Bradleys.
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wild how quick they were to put a news reporter inside one like its something to strut around about
It means they now have captured a 35 year old design
On the issue of amphibians, the conditions are dictated by the terrain and the geographical application of the equipment, which is why such differences arise in the requirements for Bradley and BMP2-3. Regarding the production of new types of equipment, the Kurganets-25 and the T-14 are not allowed into production due to the realities of combat operations. The fighting in Ukraine showed that the equipment of different countries was not intended for such battles. This applies not only to Russian technology but also to NATO countries. It is simply pointless to release the presented samples now, since they were planned for another war. Most likely, all countries of the world are now adopting this experience and trying to do something that meets the requirements of modern warfare.
The reason for the failure of Western military equipment in Ukraine is that it is not specialised in fighting forests and cities in Europe, unlike the Middle East, mountains and the desert for 20 years. It is also funny on a subject that they are complicated that better equipment is why it fought against a group of militias and rebels instead of fighting a real war.
Your right the western army based there weapons on Iraq war. But with the extreme conditions of the Ukraine terrain it shows many of those equipments in the west will have issues.
@@Reznove6002 Abrams and Bradley both were developed in the time that the soviet union, Korea and Germany were still the main potential fronts. Modern Abrams is of course no the same tank, its substantially heavier for one, but to say they were intended to fight specifically in the middle east is completely wrong. Also what about Iraq is not a real war? Iraq was the 4th largest army in the world by the start of the Iraq war. In any case as far as I can tell the track record of western vehicles is more than fine in Ukraine given that only 5 of the Leopard 2s has been lost and other vehicles do better you'd have to be out of your mind to consider anything but no losses whatsoever as poor performance and it should be a good thing that the west hasn't partaken in a "real war" for 20 years, even if western involvement in the middle east is still an overwhelmingly bad thing.... but that's beside the point.
@@cockatoofan 4th largest army that had just finished a war with a neighbor which ended up in them having worn and torn equipment which handicapped fighting to the degree that they had to make mild steel t72s
@@ligmasurvivor5600 just finished??? The Iran Iraq war had ended 15 years ago by then lol. If you mean the first gulf war.... Well that also was 12 years ago and a war involving the Americans... Either way Iraq was a larger army than either Ukraine or Russia today, so why would we not count it as a "" real war""? They had 600k troops in 1991 and some 400k in 2003, 4500-6000 tanks in 1991 and some 2000 in 2003, some 1000 combat aircraft in 1991 and 300 in 2003, some 6000 armoured vehicles in 2003, and no shortage of ammunition or supply.
It is unlikely that the Russians generally consider Bradley as something worthwhile for themselves in terms of technical familiarization. As my friend from Belarus, who is now serving in the Russian Army, said, “Well... For me, Bradley is an incomprehensible box” (said without negativity), it's large for reconnaissance and slow, it has too much mass and a low profile to pass difficult sections of the road, it does not have enough combat power and speed to fully support the infantry because the ammunition is small and there is even not enough space to transport the personal. I’m not an American, but obviously when they came up with this, they themselves didn’t understand what they wanted, trying to create universality, in the end it doesn’t have any bright features in anything or im just (there he said a word denoting a person with problems in his head) dont know>>. The Russians could have captured a lot of these already, and not for research, but rather as a trophy for the museum that they have in Patriot Park. I think the Russians already know enough about it and have long known what they need to know.
There is a movie you should watch called “Pentagon Wars”. It is not completely historically accurate, but it is about the development of the Bradley, and it shows how things work in American military development and procurement. Essentially the original idea for the Bradley was a light reconnaissance vehicle. Then an officer seeking credit got the idea that it should be able to survive contact with the enemy, so it got armor. Then another officer who wanted credit on the project decided that since it can survive contact, it should be able to fight so therefore it got a gun. then another officer proposed that, since it had firepower and protection, and will be going ahead, it should bring infantry with it to rapidly deploy for deep strikes. And since then had infantry, another officer decided it needed to have the ability to kill enemy tanks, in case it ran into them. I may have some of the sequence wrong, but that’s basically what happened.
So basically he doesn't understand how combined arms works....standard for a russian
@@brianmead7556 well said my friend. That movie is a documentary
@@lukeamato423as evidenced by their performance in Ukraine, Russians can’t even manage simple logistics chains a couple miles from their own borders. Difficult to take a random Russian’s opinion seriously of American equipment purposed for American doctrine.
@@lukeamato423 watch Pentagon wars and see how stupid your comment sound
its amazing that ...bradley...is such a prize to praise so publicly and so proudly. Are they out of leopards, battlestars and deathstars to parade?
Awesome now Russia can learn all the secrets of 50 year old American steam tech.
I think they're just gonna keep it for display, like with leopards, not really anything to reverse engineer
they haven't captured any leopards, other than taking some selfies next to one
@@bogdanbO They have now.
@@scothf1273 source?
@@bogdanbO they did, stop coping
@@mikitheslav9711 If you search the internet you can get photos of leopards being transported to Russia in railway
That’s not the first one and they got a leopard 2 last week as well and a Swedish CV90
Off to the museum at Kubinka!
The Russians were very excited to see a new technology in the captured Bradley. A cassette player with a bon jovi album inside!
They don't get the irony at all. I think I'm past the point of being mad at them, it's actually quite sad.
Can u do review on the last centurion tank the olifant mk2. Love the videos. ❤
I second that!
They captured a 30+ year old stripped Bradley. It’s like America capturing a bmp-1
Да таких бредлий нащёлкали уже сотни.что вы загнались.
@@user-vn5rt5qp8s cry more librul lmao
russians are sad
Didnt know bmp1 was 30 year old. Unless you are saying USA is 20 years behind 🗿
@@kushaliyersharma9688 I’m saying that 30+ year old Bradley is technologically equivalent to a BMP-1. This Bradley was built around the same time as the last bmp-1’s were leaving the factory. There is no technological area Russia is more advanced, not even the Kihnzal which is a copy of a American missile from the 1960’s called the GAM-87 Skybolt except the Skybolt actually went Mach 12 instead of the Kihnzal’s(claimed) Mach 10. I will say this, this is Russia’s single greatest achievement since march 2022, which is pretty sad considering if you watch the video this Bradley smoked 7-8 Russian AFV’s(IFV’s,Tanks & APC’s) before it was disabled and then shrugged off 7-8 Ukrainian FPV drones as they tried to destroy it. Not bad for a severely obsolete Bradley
3:00 Statement is factually incorrect . BMP-3 can take fire from 30mm autocanons in the frontal arc without any addition and side with the addition of 4S24 ERA package .
Ngl this war has shown me I don’t want to be inside a single military vehicle. 😂
I read an article around spring or summer of 2023 about that the Kurganets design team being corrupt and the project is closed
I mean, there are various Western made armour vehicles already in Kubinka museum
I wonder if Russia has doubt about the trick kit like the Amata, SU57, etc. I suspect in building these they have learnt how possible it is for existing weapons to knock there out or shoot them down, so why bother. There might be an edge, but maybe it is too slight to warrant the complexity and cost. Just a thought.
scene you have so much knowledge about thanks, why not try to make the perfect tank in the game sprocket
This kind of thing was inevitable.
An inherent risk of warfare
how, they russians are fighting with only shovels now
Could you make a video on the Leopard 1s that are being sent? The leo 2s get all of the attention so I haven't been able find much info about them and what variants are being sent.
they are probably a1a1s or 1a5s. maybe they sent a l44 version wich will be very powerfull.
@@ThePenguins4life I really struggle with the idea of going into combat with the A1 variant 🙂 A5 - OK, I could see that done in the right role and at with the right support. I expect they are sending the A4 and A5 variants.
@@ThePenguins4lifeyes, they are a1a1 and 1a5s, but the 120mm L/44 was a unique vehicle used for testing, if they really wanted the extra firepower they could just get more 2A4s or better 105 and 120 shells I guess.
Ну если тебя так интересует.То наши российские 🇷🇺 воины.на днях утащили как трофей леопард 2. Весь украинский экипаж погиб.
@@ThePenguins4life found a War Thunder player
wow they captured a 40 year old vehicle, nato is so worried lmao
The Russians have already captured several Bradleys, there has already been one in Moscow in a military museum since the summer.
It's stupid to think that the Russians will find some kind of "new" technology in Bradley. They already know everything about this fairly machine and even about its new versions (its upgrades concern mainly electronics, the main components are the same). Most likely, this car will play a propaganda role in the Patriot fleet, and in terms of technology, they already have the Swedish Strf 90 in modern configuration, which is many times better than any version of Bradley.
Congratulations on capturing a 1987 IROC Z Camaro. Did I leave my 2 Live Crew tape in there?
coping..
Hey, don't go knocking the 3rd Gen. Gimme that in Arrest Me Red with T-Tops.
1980’s vintage Bradly. Old vehicle. Worked very well though.
Not only bradley but also leo2. This captured vehicle also can give advantage for other country, for example Iran and NK
NK can’t make an equivalent even if they tried. Iran can try, but they also don’t have the production capabilities either.
@@jesusofbullets jst dont, dont underestimate other country like that especially for iran. Remember with u.s drone captured by Iran?
@@caturlifelive It's a 30 year old vehicle and Iran's military is 90% paper tiger. The only way they could inflict much of any casualties is after they actually lost, by doing an insurgency. Iraq was way bigger and more advanced than current Iran is today, and we literally stomped them 50,000 to 147. That's a 340 K/D ratio. A drone is a vastly different thing than an entire vehicle. We lost the F-117 in Serbia in 1998, but we don't see Iran making F-117's now do we? Saudi Arabia has lost plenty of Abrams, but again, Iran hasn't made any. I am not worried, because Iran talks tough because they're weaker than they want to appear.
@@caturlifelive Iran literally can't even make a homegrown jet, they make cheap clones that are SUPER inferior to the original product. Paper tiger of a military.
@@caturlifelive They had american planes for decades yet never were able to produce anything of themselves. Says enough. Drones are a piece of cake to copy
Nothing? Russians learn their bmps arent actually that bad in comparison?
different doctrines soviet russian doctrine prefers an amphibious, low profile ifv that can provide good fire support. the bmps did this well, but at the cost of survivability when hit when you think about it, the bmp3 fits the exact description. they even traded off the better missiles on the bmp2m to fit a 100mm cannon that can act as light artillery.
@@nhatlehong8803Do you really think a bradley really does better when hit? Come on, both aren't tanks. The Bradley was developed to basically ape the BMP but it just ended up in development hell with constant mission overreach yet still not amphibious without prep.
Well I have doubts that Kurgamets would have entered the service by now even without the war
There’s a Bradley in the Moscow military museum being showcased. Long before this one. This one might be with the least damage but there have been many captured.
great video. finally some neutral reporting without "this will demolish russian omg skalava ukraini" or the other way around. so big respect to you. keep doing what you are doing!!!
The Russian soldier who got to hop inside it first: "holy shit, this is nice! More room than a BMP or BTR! and decent optics!" 😂
Actually no, there is less room in Bradley per soldier than in BMP3. So Russian soldier probably said crap, this is even worse then our own!
Yeah, it's a comfortable coffin! Bloated as shit, just a big fat target
@@Narcan885the crew got out alive tho? unlike many thousands and thousands of russian crewmen lmao
@@bera2899 alive without an arm and a leg
@@bera2899 Lol have you seen Bradley square? Not many crewman got out alive from there LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Not just a Bradley, they got a Leopard 2 as well.
Both ancient tech
Leopard 2 is far more problematic, but even that not really. Neither the Russians nor the west has anything that is invulnerable. We all already have weapons to take out anything the other side has.
They captured a lot like m777, American M113,MXT-MV by Navistar etc
@@Oscar-qh5jnleopard 2a6 which is latest one
@@srisairampraveenganisetti i thought the latest was the 2a8
I guess they find out how far behind they really are.
They won't learn much but this will make a nice addition to the captured vehicles section of the war museum.
it doesn't matter if it's an older model. because even the most modern bradley would end up in exactly the same way
Technically yeah I guess. The modern bradley doesn't have anything to stop a nearby artillery explosion from blowing off its track, or any way to keep its crew from abandoning it, or any self destruct mechanism to stop itself from getting captured.
@@jurajsintaj6644Same thing with every armored vehicle/tank in Ukraine. Russian or Ukrainian
Not a single country on earth that is sending equipment to Ukraine are concerned about it falling into Russian hands. Because if they would, they wouldn't be sending it in the first place.
Possession of an item doesn't automatically give one the ability to produce one's own
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 But there's always a possibility and you don't want to take a risk
@@baha3alshamari152 an inherent risk of warfare
no wonder they arent sending the M1 abrams to the front, due to fear of getting destroyed or captured and ruining the infamous reputation of the tank
Everyone with a brain on either side fully expects Abrams to take losses. The reputation the Abrams has in armored discussions many times is linked to the survivability instead of the tanks loss rates. We know plenty in foreign service have been lost. We know it isn't invincible. But we do know the crew will be very well off as far as their lives are concerned.
Put it this way: You don't put a piece of equipment into general, consistent frontline use if you're worried about it being captured. Even more so if you're handing them off to a country with a well known issue of rampant corruption. All the actually concerning stuff is usually specialized, rarely seen, and heavily protected when used in a hazardous situation.
They can't add more armour to already existing platform like bmp3 because the chasseys won't hold the weight. They would need to develop completely new vechile from scratch, and considering it's russia where where bumerang and armata can't be produced massively for over a decade now. It's impossible for russia. Soviet union could, but not Russia
Tbh the war could change that , now they have seriously started mass producing some stuff
"They can't add more armour to already existing platform like bmp3 because the chasseys won't hold the weight." Lmaoooooooo this guy is stuck to 1930 tank technology It's always completely clueless kids like these that comment about "russia tanks bad"
@@Narcan885 people don't get that if IFV is going to fight other tanks than it has to be armed and armored like tanks or in other words, it would stop being IFV and become MBT. Ignoring that drones and top attack ATGMs changed quite a few things for tanks too.
@@BojanPeric-kq9et i think you haven't watched the video, because it was said russian bmps can't hold fire from bradley, but bradley can.
@@tetispinkman9135I have watched video. Bradley can take hit from BMP-3, but there is no chance it could survive it. ATGMs usually have much longer range, unless things changed in last 2 years. I have serious doubts that M2 can survive 30mm canon, but you never know, after all, it is Murican.
They already have captured Bradleys in museums and god knows how much that are non public, these captures make no difference.
In which museum?
@@mrdumbfellow927 Patriot Park in Moscow (you can find on YT)
The SECRET museum. That Nobody has pictures of. Its SECRET.
@@mrdumbfellow927The internet will show you. If You can’t document yourself I’m not going to argue with such an ignorant
sorry, which museum? the museum with the fake bradely?
I do wonder, why is a new vehicle out of the question during this war, when for example during ww2 at breakneck pace new vehicles saw the light of day?
Wow! After like 40 years of service they finally captured a Bradly! On the flipside you can probably privately purchase a BMP 2 or 3 in America.
ive never seen bmp3 for sale before. as for bmp2 idt theyre going to get those with the berezhok turrets
Well America didn't sell the Bradley to a bunch of 3rd world country
electronics/communication is really important. learn how to intercept those and decode is probably the most what bradley can give. if radio was not destroyed that is
It would be very stupid for Russians to use US encryption. I guess NSA would LOVE that.
@@BojanPeric-kq9etread the comment again
@@ic7481you are right, mea culpa.
On the Bushmaster: I have heard that the Russians don't really have a duel feeding autocannon, hence the double gun on terminator. So they may copy the feed system so their IFVs can load two belts of ammo. though they probably could have developed such a system at any time and have shown little interest
right, but the main issue is to fit the dual feed system on the already cramped bmp and bmd
@@GBR9794newer turret on K-17 and B-25 IFV is perfect for the systen.
@@muhammadfarrohkeyzar1988 but then once again, there are barely any active units fielding those vehicles, and by the time the time that they mass produce those, the US probably has developed a new replacement for the Bradley
BMPT doesn't have dual feed because turret was designed by a committee of clowns, not because there is no dual feed. Look at how they mounted both guns and look where the ammo is coming from. They simply eliminated space where the second ammo box is supposed to go😅
Russians use auto cannons rather than chain guns for their fighting vehicles. It keeps production costs down and allows them to focus on one reliable design. I’d take the 30mm 2a4 design over the bushmaster any day of the week.
And they managed to capture this with only shovels, real impressive!
Exactly this - the abandonment of lightly damaged vehicles, most often due to the rupture of one track due to encountering a mine or the impact of a drone or other damage to the engine, and similar cases of temporary incapacitation of the vehicle, where the entire crew leaves the vehicle without attempting to destroy it - which results in the Russian capture of the vehicle, are the biggest reason and obstacle to provide the UAF forces with more modern vehicles. Due to such an approach, they will lose the support of those countries that were the biggest proponents of equipping the Armed Forces with more modern systems. Ukrainian personnel with the Soviet way of warfare have already cost the OSRH dearly, to the extent that the Leopard 2 tank (in all versions) is withdrawn from the battlefield and from operational use in the armored forces of the OSRH. The newly arrived "shell" tank Abrams M1A1 will show its problems in the field, and it is not excluded that the Russians capture a fully operational vehicle. Due to such a nonchalant attitude of OSRH towards the secrets that are deeply buried in every western vehicle, OSRH will no longer accept vehicles of western manufacture. Perhaps the best ptisput of the allies, who can with raw materials and upgrade thermal imaging cameras in the hunter-killer configuration the maximum they can give to the UAF with the request that Ukraine itself, with the help of Western countries in resources and electronic devices for observation and targeting on the front line, agreed is that Ukraine produces its own battle-tested tank models. Because there is no bigger "bad advertisement" than seeing "Western technical marvels" piled on top of each other, all because of the COMPLETELY WRONG WAY OF USE, when incompetent commanders (but also inexperienced or bad tank commanders!) put them together. with a dozen vehicles that the Russians then destroy the artillery to dust.. It's a pity, but the biggest problem is the difference in the mentality of Western countries and the officers of the armored forces of the UAF who are not up to it.. It's a shame, and too bad for Ukraina. And the great white shark named Putin only swims in ever narrower circles because he smelled blood as soon as there was an interruption in the supply of Western weapons, ammunition and other military systems...
they captured it to test its firepower to create their own counters to it- you know they wont make nothing :D
А ты позвони и узнай.зачем его утащили.что догадки строить.лыбу тянуть🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
i dont speek chinese@@user-vn5rt5qp8s
Didn't Ukraine capture both a Tor-m, Pantsir and that one electronic warfare system (forgot the name). Both sides have capture very valuable pieces to examine.
they buyed Pantsir long before they converted into austrian painter fanboys
@@ImPedofinderGeneralAustrian painter was after commies👽
@@ImPedofinderGeneral Always better than being a zigger.
That is worse, eletronic warfare is about signal spoofing, if you know the caracteristics of the signal and its potency that is actionable intelligence. As for the Bradley, I would not rank it better or worse than the BMP3, the BMP3 has a much better weapon, very powerful, however they sacrifice crew space for more weapons which is something in line with russian thought. The difference between american and russian armor is not up to technological capability but overall early design intention(the US has massive sealift capabilities and can have heavy tanks, Russia tanks have to be able to be placed on rail tracks, which can probably handle more but you have to guarantee that across every bridge and tunnel across the entire Russian Federation, so I can see why size matters). The main diffrence between american and Russian armour units is that American Units are fully equiped , whereas the BMP3 is not available across units and instead have the Bmp1 and 2 which have critically known flaws in their armour in particular mine protection.
The M2 Bradley is a good IFV but it's unlikely any secret stuff is involved in its design.
I stand corrected, its not even a 16 year old model, its a retired National Guard model, so its over 30 years old...
I think that the technology of these machines has been known to the Russians for a long time, after all, we are talking here about machines from the eighties, which were put in warehouses because they no longer met the parameters for the modern battlefield. But I can say that the photos and videos of these captured machines will be celebrated by the russians and they will say how they once again defeated the entire NATO and all Western countries, it will be like when they destroyed one Leopard 2A6 tank.
Of course it is known. After all, if NATO countries managed to create composite armor... Ok, they needed SOMEWHAT more time than Soviet Union, but they made it.
@@BojanPeric-kq9et lol,lmao
@@manolisiatrou5537T-64 versus M1, easy to check, but someone is not able to do that.🤣
@@BojanPeric-kq9et T-90 loses to Abrams 90% of the time. Your tech is weak ruski, when will you make it to the moon? We reached it 50 years ago
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor I don't know where did you find info about T-90 versus Abrams. I don't understand your 2nd sentence. Please be kind to rephrase it or stop using google translate.
The main strengths of the Bradley for Ukraine right now is that it is a relatively modern IFV, and how many surplus the US has of them it can gift to Ukraine.
The US does not have that many in stock. A large portion of our own stocks have been cannibalzied for parts. And the majority of total Bradley production were exported to other countries. The US itself only has ~900 *operational* and another 600 used for spare parts.
They have already made many bmp-3 and have already been shipping them out... They have released many photos of them on the trains being shipped out with bmp-2's
Russia now has a Abrahams tank as well
in reality Its probably smarter for them to prioritize modernizing their existing massive stockpiles of BMPs and whatnot instead of developing whole new production chains for new concept vehicles, they have been able to field thousands of IFVs mostly because of this strategy
And then they made the BMP-3. An expensive, relatively lightly armored and highly explosive IFV. Also yeah theres probably little point to developing a specific counter to something thats already pretty much getting replaced
@@jurajsintaj6644 sure but I really doubt their bmp problem is as bad as the internet copes about it being, it gets the job done for most of the worlds armies with great speeds because of its lower weight & high quantities, its a well suited vehicle for the job they use it for, which is rotations instead of frontal assaults. I feel like the problem with Ukraine's military is there lack of cohesion in terms of equipment, strategy and ammo, everything and everyone is using different things that all need different logistics chains to supply them efficiently, I highly doubt that they are able to keep up with all of the ad hoccing going on
That's exactly what they do right now tbh
Some rich guy will show up with it at a night club
Medvedev's new limousine
I drove the M2A3 as a Combat Engineer the 2’s were in a junkyard basically and used for parts mind you I was in from 14’-18’ the 3’s are sometimes good sometimes sh*t, but a decent fighter not great especially with its flat bottom (ied unfriendly)
Russia: yes we got the Bradly its so good. America: we are replacing it..
hello, can you mayby make a video about all those leopard 1s that were sent to ukraine ? i cant find a single picture of them in actual combat, what did they do with them?
They now are exposed in Russian military museums at side of German Tiger and Königstiger!!
Id like to know this too
In German News they also talk about an captured Leo2A4…
They didn't captured it yet, it wasn't recovered yet.
A6 actually..
@@gezalesko3813 A4 it didn't had the wedged turret and not the long barrel
I can confirm there a video about it.
@@JazzJaRa yeah recovery of a +60t vehicle from a muddy and open field is difficult and risky. I’m not sure if Russian recovery Vehicles are able to do this. Their Tanks/IFV/APC are mostly lighter than our western counterparts. We will see. Maybe UA get it back light the Bradley’s Parkinglot at the beginning of the counteroffensive.
I see they taking photos with some Leos 2A4 and A6 destroyed by Lancet and one by a T-72 but so far to Field Recovery Veichle help to capture it, they manage do captured some french AMX IFV, CV 90 from sweeden in march of this year or almost near date
Isn’t a Bradley a very old vehicle?
Yesterday I saw a video of a Russian soldier inspecting a damaged Leopard 2A4 from the inside. Everything inside was burned. Only the driver remained, but his hatch did not open.😐
Yap!! It’s near the south-eastern Robotyne the tank had Kontck-1 ErA
On some telegram channel? If so how it's called?
Russia can look at it and realize that they would still need to import parts from the west to build their own.
Bradley is 50 years old, this is of course nanotechnology