As the Sims 4's life span draws to a close, let's reflect back and observe the numerous ways that the game fell short.
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''when you launch the sims 4, do you ever feel like there's something missing?'' yes, the actual game
I spent the first week finding what is missing in the Sims 4 base game. I'm not kidding.
I always miss "sul sul" like in Sims 2 😞
Sims 4 feels like lifeless diorama....
@@meiru2453 That's not been my experience at all. I don't get why people keep saying that. For me, TS4 sims interact with each other so much more naturally than in TS3 most of the time. I've seen some crazy drama unfold in TS4 that's like watching a movie, I never saw much of that in TS3.
You know a game is complete dog dookie when you actually need mods to play the game ie “i wish the $60 expansion pack could alow my sims to do the thing I bought the pack for welp I’ll just download 30 mods so it’s fun “
the most tragic thing... is that everyone is pretending the Sims 4 is a great and fun game, the sims community is really brainwashed. I'm so shook ngl.
Is it possible that maybe people have different interests and different standards for what a "fun game" is? Like I'm certainly not the most avid Sims player and I agree TS3 was better than TS4, but I enjoy the game for what it is. I don't have a million DLC packs (I think I have...3? One of which I got free?) and again I'm not saying that it's the best game ever, but I absolutely disagree with saying it's the WORST game.
@@azuradawn5683no, you’re just delusional 😭. idk why you sims 4 players try to defend a million dollar company that is scamming you.. very weird.
The gaming version of Stockholm syndrome.
it's the sunk cost fallacy 🤪
@@kyle-bi1uu why would she be delusional just beacuse she likes play the game, thats not ok to say, we all like different games and for many playing games maby is a time when we can escape our own life and just enjoy playing a game. Even if it has its faults etc. Most of us know sims4 has faults and Ea is not best company. But we all need to accept that some ppl like and some ppl dont likr. Name calling is not ok, both ways
Remember: it is morally correct to pirate any EA game, _especially_ Sims 4
Any AAA game except for Namco Bandai and SEGA.
That's the only way I currently have every single Sims 4 extras. Lolz. Fk paying over a grand for this garbage
@@thetanz8111 If you think that it is garbage why are you even playing lmao
@@Kwadratura - They're playing the game because they want to. They just don't think any of the Sims 4 games are worth the asking price... because they're not. Some of these damn DLC's are worth $40 or more, depending on your country. You can buy a fully fledged AAA game for that price! Besides, what other option do Simmers *have* exactly? If you wanted to play PVP game, there's dozens to choose from! The same applies to horror, action, survival, fantasy, rpg, adventure, sandbox, (etc.) games. Don't like one? No problem, there are plenty! This doesn't *apply* to The Sims 4, because there are *no* alternative games to be playing. There is no other Life-Simulation game like it available on the market. It's the reason EA have gotten away with such pathetic releases for *SO* long. Because they have *no* competition. So, Simmers are stuck with a shite, lackluster and overpriced game that hardly works! It's the reason why many have them have simply returned to past games in the franchise (*Sims 2 & 3*) despite their age because they're all that's up for offer. Now, *THANKFULLY* this is finally about to change what with ParaLives and Life By You in the works. It's certainly not a cure-all to the current problem, but it's a long-needed change.
@@Kwadratura Because it's an extremely limited market there is not a lot of life sims out there paralives would come eventually but that's a really long time from now Plus you need a pretty beefy PC and 5 or more mods to make sims 3 actually run optimally and some don't want to go through that Plus sims 3 is ugly
The game is way more laggy than sims 3 at this point. Looking forward to Life By You and Paralives.
It's sad when the sims 3 is running better :(
exactly! my sims 3 runs absolutely smooth and lag free while sims 4 is a disaster, laggin in buy mode, live mode, at least 50% of the time
@@aarachnophxbia yes!! So many people have reported to EA. But they keep ignoring it. This game that is suppose to be “lag free” is super laggy compared to the last three games.
Really?? I don't have problems with sims 4 but it becomes laggy if I add too many broken mods lol
and isn't it funny, that Maxis excuse for making the Sims 4 a closed world and not having half of the features of the previous games was because they wanted everyone to be able to play the game even on low end computers? That excuse was such a cop out for their laziness. The more packs Maxis puts out, the laggier the game gets.
As easy at it is to blame EA for the state of the Sims 4 we can't ignore the role the playerbase had. People are far too forgiving when it comes to the Sims 4. How many times have people expressed disappointment with how broken or lackluster a pack released only to say they'll buy it anyway because "the modders will fix it" or "at a discount when EA gets it together and fixes their stuff" or even "I don't care about the problems with the pack it has X feature I really like." Guys, EA doesn't care how you feel about their game because they _know_ you'll throw money at them anyway. All they gotta do is put out a pretty pre-rendered trailer to get people hyped and you're hooked. Other gaming communities would've straight up stop giving the developers money for putting out low quality content like this. Just look at gaming disasters such as Redfall, Fallout 76, and No Man's Sky at launch. Those games got torn to shreds when people saw the state they were in. The difference is that at least No Man's Sky actually fixed their game and put out all their promised features and then some. The sims 4 on the other hand...👁👁
Totally, enabling gamers, that ask for more but also defend the game with all their breath are toxic and community member such as Simsies acting like playing the game is endless entertaining is strange and misleading if anything.
@@Cheesecake_666 Exactly. You get what you pay for and if you pay EA for crap content, guess what you're going to get? Crap content.
yup. i’ve been a loyal player for years and never bought into the hype. i only just got sims 4 a few months ago because it was free and that’s it. but i’m still paying for sims 3 expansion packs (they were $10 a few days ago!! all of them!!) because no way am i spending money on a worse game
simmers will bend backwards to justify giving ea money. and ea doesn't need to try and create a good game, because if they wait the controversy out, people will start buying again
don't forget the "I don't like it but i have to buy it for my collection" fans. The day journey to batuu came out and people bitched but bought it I knew this community loves to spend money if it means having the "complete set"
68 DLCS 😭 And It’s Still Trash
And according to EA, all that dlc is worth over 1200 DOLLARS!
If you think this is bad, wait until The Sims 5 launches as a cross platform online focused free-to-play mobile game riddled with microtransactions, and an in game currency to be exchanged for real world money. When that happens, not even the mods will save you since games that deal directly in real money typically frown upon any kind of modification/hack, to the point of the companies issuing full bans.
I would love to see the result of EA banning mods and CC from SIms 5, grab your popcorn lol
Or more likely mods and CC will be sold for cash in the game store. (The creators will be paid in honorable mentions, as usual.) Of course, the mods must not affect the game's PEGI rating. As an online game, there can't be any woohoo, imagine the lawsuits.
@@MagnusItlandI don’t think you could make a sims game without woohoo. It’s not the most important thing, but woohooing in risqué locations has been featured since at least Sims 2
We get it. Sims 4 is NOT Sims 3. Get over it already.
One thing I hate about Sims 4 is I have to keep constantly fighting my Sims where in Sims 3 my Sims do what I tell them and things go the way I want to.
just turn autonomy off
@@stanloonaguys_Autonomy fully off usually isn’t fun. I want my sims to make basic choices on there own. Sims 3 sims were actually pretty good about this. And I believe you can control the level of autonomy in Sims 3, it isn’t just on/off.
Mmaybe, but if there was only SOMETHING interesting to do in Sims 3, I'd probably be more upset that Sims 4 isn't more like it. I'm just hoping Sims 5 will be more like Sims 4 than Sims 3.
@@kiillabytez you clearly didn't play sims 3 if you think there's nothing to do there
@@meiru2453 Just looked at more of his replied and he's just ragebaiting, don't pay attention to him
I've refused to give EA any more money, stopped playing, used my saved money to buy a beefy PC, and I am currently enjoying my time IMMENSELY in the sims 3 🥰
I stopped buying sims 4 a year or two ago and have saved a fortune
Well, kudos to you. Personally, I can't stand Sims 3 and can't see how anyone would downgrade their gaming experience like that. To each their own.
@@Rekowcski You save a lot by not spending money. Duh.BTW, I hate Sims 3.
@@kiillabytezWell, you can continue getting scammed playing the atrocious Sims 4. It's a game designed for dumb people
@@kiillabytezI mean, graphic aside, their gameplay is still better than sims 4.
I have no regrets dumping Sims 4 years ago. I'm only keeping up with the game to see what kind of CC the players will convert to The Sims 2
haha I am in similar situation, I check and save sims 4 cc on pinterest to convert it to 3 one day
@@CureSmileful I do the same but on tumblr! There are quite a few people dedicated to converting cc froms sims 2 or sims 4 and convert them for sims 3!
@@N30KID I follow Around The Sims, she has a lot of wonderful conversions! The downside of this is her stuff, as well as all the other CCs I have are starting to make the build/buy mode too cluttered, thank goodness Lazy Duchess created the catalog search mod. 😂😂😂
The only way to get the message through to EA is through mass boycott of their products. Stop buying the Sims 4 stuff and simply return to the previous games. There are more than enough mods out there for the older titles to fill up your time, and you don't even have to give EA a cent of your money if you know where to look. Reject modernity, embrace tradition.
I stopped giving them money and spent the last two years trying to convince others to do the same 😂
YES
@@Rekowcskisame! I just tell people to get the older games and look up how to optimise them for newer PCs. It’s a hassle but it makes the games run well
perfect timing! i downloaded sims 4 like 3 days ago because i somehow wanted to play after seeing all this horse stuff (i don’t have horse ranch but after seeing sims 4 content so much lately i just wanted to play it) and i have never been that disappointed, i opened it and immadiately regretted it because it was that boring and after playing only sims 2 and 3 for the last months i noticed how little gameplay there is… so i’m going back to my lovely sims 3 lol
I had a similar recent experience. I didn't even bother to open the sims 4 for any game play footage BC it was unbearable 😭
Sims 3 por siempre!!!!!
Even after getting all the dlcs for free I could not play this for more than ten minutes
my exact situation, didn't touch it for two years now but I frequently launch sims 3
@@CureSmileful I don't even bother to re-download it when I got my new gaming PC. 🤣🤣🤣Better save that memory space for new games and mods.
Lol I removed the Sims 4 to free up more space for my Sims 3 save files
You could play a challenge in Sims4 and be done in 3 hours. Then what do you do? Challenges can take DAYS on the older games, if not a week or more.
Liar.
I just dont understand how toxix simmers on twitter still get excited about eps and when I say sims 3 so much better they literally attack to me with words saying animations are better in ts4? nonsense.
Hahaha this video is going to get their motor mouths running XD
The thing that sticks with me is that a few years ago they were committed to pack refreshes to fix a bunch of things fans complained about.. and to date.. they’ve done 1 refresh. Also, I remember when people were upset with Stuff Packs beginning in TS2, but now we have 4 types of DLCs and DLCs for DLCs. I’m really saddened by how EA is handling one of my favorite IPs.
I stopped playing Sims 4 after Cottage Living. It just wasn't what I hoped and I went back to Sims 3. Great vid!
I quit when star wars entered the franchise
I bought cottage living thinking I would get new and fun gameplay, but I was incredibly disappointed. The aesthetics surrounding the pack seemed interesting to me, and I liked the idea of owning and running a farm. Cottage Living was incredibly lackluster to me and I regretted shilling out the money for it tbh
@@elixtirr2611I ran a very successful farm in Sims 3. They became millionaires after I found this rare coffee bean worth a lot of money and mass produced it. They owned multiple lots.
the sims 4 is a genuine chore to play. so much of the gameplay is just imagining a better game
The sunk cost fallacy was actually why it took me until My Wedding Stories to actually uninstall the Sims 4, even though I had already given up on the game by that point.
The sims 4 is like an MLM 😭
The Sims 2 just has so much personality, life, details, whatever, all the little things like going shopping, how the cars worked, the most indepth gene system I've seen in a game, how sims could get one sided crushes it just has so much love in it, while sims 4 is just this sterilized mess created solely as a sequel because they wanted more money with no care at all
I recently started a lepacy challenge on Sims 3 (you start with base game only and gradually add new packs in release order throughout the generations) with the goal of completing every single lifetime wish, and I was shocked to realize that after years of always playing with packs... sims 3 base game is fun!! I miss seasons, pets and generations, my most used packs, but you can have a really good time playing with no add-ons, and it actually makes me excited to add more stuff later and actually engage with each pack to the fullest (something I never really did before). This is unthinkable for Sims 4: its base game has no substance and each new pack is as disappointing as the last. Sims 3 remains unbeaten for me (but Sims 2 is also a blast).
Sims 3 is like a cheeseburger... and the expansion packs are like fries, coke, and a mcflurry. Sims 4 is like a hamburger bun ...and the expansions are the meat, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo and mustard haha
2020 was the year I gave up on Sims 4, ugh BATUU. So much of giving a benefit of the doubt since 2014. Now I sit back and laugh at the constant cycle of "hype, excitement, disappointed and angry then silence" in each DLC announcement.
i always say this: mods in the sims 4 are used to make the game enjoyable, mods in the sims 3 are used to make the game smoother
Unfortunately I'm stuck with this game until I can purchase a new gaming laptop to play sims 2 and sims 3. However, I'm always baffled that players always try to excuse E.A. laziness by saying "their trying," yet the Caliente update took nearly a year to just change them in CAS. Mind you, I did my own Caliente refresh, with lore, and relationship updates, etc that took me the most under 2 hours. Then they tell the players that Katrina is obviously a clone, to justify not doing their research on the families as if we the players are stupid for not realizing Katrina a clone Dina and Nina made. Despite the fact that E.A. couldn't even be bothered to know the lore on their own game 😂😂😂.
From what I understand, the sims 4 and gallery had very restrictive rules where you couldn't use certain names. One of those was "Nighat" (because of the first few letters). Also I tried to make my friend "Jewel" years ago and it wouldn't let me
@@Rekowcskii feel like the gaming industry should have some like what the food industry have the FDA. Cuz if they did Sims would Not be this messed up and way less none-functional.
I used to play sims 3 a lot before 4 came out. 4 came out when I was like 12 so I was super excited and immediately made the switch to 4. after a few years I realized I have been playing the sims less and less than I used to, thought I was just growing up and growing out of sims. couldn't put my finger on why the game wasn't enjoyable to me anymore. like I would just make a family, a house and then never play them. I completely forgot what it was like to play sims 3 then a few months ago decided to just see what sims 3 was like for fun again, just to reminisce those times. turns out I didn't "grow out" of the sims, the sims 4 is just so bad. even though I used to play sims 3 a lot, I completely forgot a lot of features and I was just so surprised finding out about them again. and now I can spend hours in game again. it's truly amazing how horrible they have managed to make the sims 4 and how they've been able to market it in a way that most simmers don't see it
I agree with everything in this video. My biggest problem with the sims 4 is that it just feels so soulless; I want my sims to feel distinct and have personalities that make them fun to actually play with. I’ve been playing the sims 3 for the past 2 years and I think the traits make all the difference, only having 3 traits per sim and the variety being so limited really kills the sims 4 for me and makes it feel so inferior to the sims 2 and 3 that it’s laughable. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever touch the game again and I have absolutely no interest in the dumpster fire that is most likely to be the sims 5
This needed to be 10x longer. I know you got more in you!
the script had 10 reasons, I just thought it worked better as 2 videos :p
it's not even these points that sadden me, it's the fact that NOTHING happens organically in the game if you don't make it happen. Every sim is the same and act the same, with terrible autonomy. Which means no stories or cool events happen, no chaos (unless you consider poorly coded fire ovens chaos) arise... sims are just kinda there and struggling to get through the day
I watched a few LPs which were cute, but as a gal who owned horses, the animation for the horses is very cartoon-ish and childish. The sims 3 horses (and unicorns, ahem), move very realistic and regal, just like real horses. I'd love to see someone post a side by side comparison. Appreciate your opinions, very true.
Unfortunately another simmer will have to do that as I chose groceries instead of Horse Ranch this month :p
@@Rekowcski very smart choice...your food won't glitch out! 😂
youtuber ‘tintaverse’ made a comparison video!
I used to think I was the only one that thought Sims 4 was bad.
You are not alone! Sims 4 was a no go for me from the first. When I heard the game was going to launch without pools or toddlers that was a deal breaker for me. They've done nothing to make me change my mind, either.
Yep, I had the Sims games in the past and I kinda fell away from them. Then when 4 came out I said, why not? So I went to Origin and downloaded it. I think it was within an hour I realized this was not a good game. Fortunately I still owned 3, and I downloaded that again. Now, mind you, I have a lot of complaints about Sims 3 (go to a club where your Sim says "where is everybody" and then go to a hotspot where no one is at either) but these are complaints about how the game could be even better, not about how the game is not good to begin with.
That’s like me with Sims 2, I have a couple small nitpicks like community time (which Mods fixed) but even if I didn’t have that mod, my unmodded Sims 2 has entertained me for litteral YEARS.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Are there any mods to do "story progession" so i dont have to go around aging people, and what are the essential mods, last time I tried to play 2 I could not get it to stop crashing
I officially went back to sims 3 when all my packs disappeared for the umpteenth time, I’ve started about 4 saves and lost everything due to the game not working or breaking with updates multiple times, plus the game is boring as a whole. I wish I could get back my money, glad I only buy when there’s a sale
After playing for a couple of years with just sims 3 basegame and University pack, I decided to try the sims 4 around the time the farms expansion came out. I bought a few DLC that I thought I would enjoy and I got quickly bored. When the wedding pack came out and we all realized it could only be played with fixing mods, I decided to go back to the sims 3. I'm not paying EA for DLC only modders make playable, and besides, I was bored to death... I'm back to the sims 3, bought all the expansions for around 50 euros, and I know I have years of fun ahead...
for me the most annyoing thing is that there is always a load screen... switching between my households is such a pain. when two of my household hang out at the same lot I wish I could just switch between them to control... it's so annoying that I have to go to load screen all the time!!! that's literally my number one thing that I dislike the most
FANTASTIC video! 👌🏾👌🏾 The Sims 4's first advantage for me was being able to be played on any computer easily, but that's not true anymore for a while now. I got the Sims 4 shortly after launch in a giveaway and I still managed to play 2 and 3 more. I uninstalled 4 a couple years ago. I still enjoy watching videos about it from people who like it (and don't like it), but that's the extent of my interactions with it. I don't even watch the trailers anymore. I'm so disappointed. The second advantage: the mods for 4 are amazingly cool. That kept me from uninstalling the game in the past -- but modders for the older games have been catching up. I can get all the CC and almost all the mods I could want without having to go through the weaker game. So it's sayonara. It felt like a breakup, but uninstalling it made more hard drive space to download more stuff for the older games. You win some, you lose some. 😝
The sims 4 mod creators unfortunately are stuck doing EAs job, making the game fun and engaging
I gave up on The Sims 4 back when they released the My First Pet stuff pack thing. It was crystal clear at that point what direction the game was going in. And indeed, it got worse with each pack. The Sims 4 is a soulless, boring cash-grabby game. Comparing it to the glory days of Sims 1-3, it breaks my heart. This isn’t my beloved Sims game anymore. I don’t have high hopes for Sims 5. Hopefully Paralives and Life By You carry the baton like Cities Skylines did with SimCity.
When they released Journey to Batuu, I literally uninstalled sims 4, because (as you say) it was CRYSTAL CLEAR the future was never going to be as good as the past. Nostalgia aside, the best sims game that will ever exist has already been released. Idk which one it is, but they're all better than 4, or 5 is going to be.
I fixed an old laptop & bought Sims 1-3. Never went back to Sims4. I'm an older gamer - I play games for the game play.
I bought the sims 4 a few years after it came out, about 2016. Compared to the sims 3 base game, it was was so boring I couldn’t play more than 4 hours on it. I haven’t bothered since then.
Glad you got out before anyone got hurt
It's frustrating. I WANT to like the game. I do. But I can't. It bores me very quickly and the gameplay is so shallow. I have way more fun playing the first 3 Sims games. What also frustrates me is how much money I spent on it since it came out (back when the basegame was full price around $60, before it was free every 5 seconds, and before DLC was always on sale). Say what you want about Sims 3's store system, but you have to admit that when you play Sims 3, you can tell the Sims team still had SOME love and care for the game and the players. And the store was optional add-ons; not mandatory or anything, but your game can feel complete without it...store items just spruce things up. 4's DLC packs feel mandatory to make the game even remotely fun, but that fails miserably. Nowadays the Sims team are of touch and shallow. Ugh.
I got a feeling that The Sims 5 will be the last nail in the coffin for the series… I hope I’m wrong but the future does not look good for the sims
It will be a live service game and fully online, it will run like an online MMO and they will operate it for more than a decade. It may be the last, but it will be like IMVU and other online role playing games especially that they want cross play (PC and Mobile) If that happens, I think the social interactions will regress more since their goal is to make it online like how Sims 4 was supposed to be.
oh yeah, definitely. i don't understand how so many people are excited about it or think it'll change for the better when ea's got negative incentive to make it better.
For DLC, many of the Sims 4 packs can be in one pack. I remember playing the sims 3, and there was Late Night which came with apartments, fame, an acting career, and vampires, dance clubs and lounges (which had so much detail in comparison to sims 4, despite clubs and lounges being base game. The gameplay is just so shallow), and even the basic interactions such as slow dancing added so much depth to the sims 3. In Sims 4, to access all this you need city living, get famous, vampires, get together (if you want to add more gameplay for clubs), my wedding stories (to have the slow dancing interaction without mods, which is ridiculous that they’re charging so much considering the pack is broken and it’s even worst then dining out. At least with dining out, there’s a mod to fix it for PC/Mac players. But with “My Wedding Stories” the pack is just unplayable. If you add all these packs together, it will be $160. Which is so much money just so you can have the same or similar amount of gameplay. Not to mention the world is so much bigger in Sims 3, they include apartments, and then they have upper and richer celebrities on the other side of the map. Late night is what Get Famous wished it was. Apparently in the new expansion pack, they are adding the option to build your own apartments which should of been City living, as the entire point of city living was literally living in apartments.
Youre absolutely right. I bloody hate when people pretend the Sims 4 is good. Its the biggest piece of 💩 i've ever played. I regret spending so much money on the DLC. And dont get me started on the updates. They broke my save files
WHY YOU SAY THAT
I just recorded my first ever speed build in the sims 2 because i'm terrified to even touch the sims 4 after the horse update another thing i noticed after attempting to play sims 4 right after having played sims 2 and 3 for a while, is that the actual interactions menu popping up is SO SLOW OMG in sims 2 you click on things or get your sims to do things so quickly and smoothly it's ridiculous, in sims the actual speed at which the menu appears really stresses me out I'll admit it's a shame for me cause i do really enjoy the build buy mechanics in sims 4, the mods people have made, and the cas but until they stop patching up the game and it's over and the DLC releases are finished im not even gonna try, and i only say this cause im more of a builder/maker than player
Imagine they tried to update sims 2 or 3 I would play offline forever lol
My favorite hobby is watching you roast the shit out of ts4
My favourite part is when the girlies get upset that their echo chamber has been shattered 😭
Got the horrible news today that Life by You is delaying early access release from September to March, 2024. Then I saw your video. Yay!!! Sims 4 bashing!!! I really needed this Rekowcski - thank you. ;)
I think they are delaying it to make necessary changes, and I hope they use the time well. I am looking forward to playing it.
@@Rekowcski You and me both
Still playing….and still complaining. I just don’t have another game I like, unfortunately. The one bright point for me, the gameplay being so shallow has made me into a builder. I also am a lot more creative with how I structure my worlds once I begin to play. Alas, I still do a lot of what my children used to do when they were little; set it all up painstakingly, then walk away. :(
When I launch the Sims 4 the things I find missing are all the freebies they have offered that I tried to download (Jungle Adventure, and various kits and packs) as well as the Dogs and Cats expansion I bought years ago and that had been working up until recently. EA App says they're installed but the game says they are still downloading. Online help hasn't fixed the problems. What I like to do is take Sims 3 and recreate the promo pictures of Sims 4 to the best of my ability or most recently, used a rabbithole rug to create a walk-in horse arena (rodeo style) to play in Sims 3.
modders' backs breaking from carrying the sims 4 for the last 9 years
Agreed. Without them, I would have dropped this game ages ago.
With sims 2 we understand why some features are not there, basic ones like, the hour be the same when you enter or leave a community lot, sims 3 too, a simulation game in a open world before the boom of hardware power in 2015, but why sims 4 is so laggy and unfinished? Didn't make sense, why close the neighboor instead or just make open neighboors with loading between worlds? They know people will buy the game, with paralives or LBY people WILL BUY THIS, and even the mess that will be project rene, same team, same mistakes, same mess, and they know they don't need to make a good game anymore, everyone know the sims, even people that don't play, I quit being angry at this mess and now I'm just waiting for LBY early acess and Paralives launch, I'm done.
I had downloaded back the sims 3 few days ago before the horse shxt pack released. I noticed that there were way more things included in an expansion pack back in those days,and The sims 4 expansion packs are really shallow.
Unpopular opinion, I could give a crap about the open world. I play Sims 2 more than 3 and have no issue with loading screens. My bigger issues…the sims have literally gotten dumber not smarter, the emotion system sucks, the traits System in Sims 3 was literally top notch and the Sims 4 one is worse tha Sims 2, the teleporting Sims do in Sims 4 to ‘travel’ is immersion breaking…in sims 2 I believed in the cars because vehicles were an active form of travel to leave a lot, even when it was closed world, the map view in Sims 4 sucks and there aren’t enough lots…even Sims 1 gave you more building freedom and who cares how good the build tools are when you have to bulldoze a whole town to use them and can’t add your own world/neighborhood/town maps. You litterally had limitless possibilities for world building in 2, Sims 2!!! And 3 opened that up with Open world. But both gave world builders a tool that TS4 doesn’t even have. Like one blank limited Newcrest map. Wtf?
100% if they combined packs like cottage living + cats & dogs + horse ranch + my first pet stuff as a single pack for only $20..... many people would be okay with sims 4
you know a game is bad, when playing it only becomes fun if you use mods/fan content.
what breaks my heart the most is that the game had potential. It's got great style, the CAS is gorgeous, the build mode is fluid and intuitive and the DLCs introduce features that at the first glance can bring additional charm to the game. The game threatens to become good - until you turn it on and try it out. It's not as much infuriating as disappointing - y'know, like an abusive lazy ex who promises to change but never does, haha.
It's so sad that people who have only played TS4 believe that it's the best game ever. It feels so wrong. In a perfect world, I wish EA made a game with TS2 gameplay, TS3 open world, story progression, and the colorwheel, and graphics like TS4. I am sick of TS4 being so mind controlling in such a bad way. If you compare an expansion from TS3 to a TS4 one, you can see who EA has really become. Barely any content and still tricking players. Then, the Sims team tries to guilt trip us and try to make us feel pity for them, but as a buyer's POV,. this shouldn't be the case. At the end of the day, we are buying a product and expect it to work. Imagine getting a brand new car and the dealer is like "Look at this brand new amazing car with so many feature! Oh... but ignore the fact that it is missing two wheels, it stalls a lot, and the paint job is half done"
Every time i try play, if its no fun without mods or a crap ton of packs. If i play with loads of packs, it's glitchy af. Mods break every other week with the stupid updates. It's just unplayable. I enjoy the building, the CAS is good (ignoring the actual personality customization). It's just....its a money grab. That's it. It's so sad. Just go play ts3 or ts2.
Reject the sims 4, return to the sims 2. While you’re at it: pirate the game. It’s very easy. You can get an installer made by a passionate TS2 community member that installs the ultimate collection for you and automatically applies all the patches it needs to run well on modern machines/monitors. Even installs clean noncorrupted versions of the hoods for you. All for the low cost of free and no money in greedy EAs pocket. TS2 community also is very passionate about addressing various bugs/quirks that the game has. There are hundreds of different fixes you can easily find and apply to address every issue you can think of basically. No waiting on EA. Just do it yourself.
I left Sims for more than a year out of disappointment for TS4, and then started plying TS3 again. Had some issues with Korean version(which never occurred back then), and uninstalled in the hopes of installing English version. Now EA app won't let me download any EPs, even though I bought them. It seems that this has happened to many people and EA doesn't bother to fix it for months. Maybe I'm never playing the sims again, because they locked me out of the game I own.
I've been playing The Sims since I was 5. And I was 5 in 2001, so I got to play TS1, then 2 (here, in Russia, the base game and, I believe, University came out in English first, but starting with the next packs, the game got a Russian release, so we had to buy the og game + University again) and 3, I saw them come and go. Those games were full of content, and even to this day, I like to come back to all of them, even the very first game, which might not have aged as well as the other two, but it's still full of charm and heart. Many find it eerie, but I find it oddly comforting and welcoming. With this background, of course I was waiting for TS4. I wasn't too big on the way it looked, but I was interested because, hey, it's The Sims! And oh how disappointed I was. It was raw, boring, with not much to do. Sure, the CAS was great, but what's the point if I do not want to do anything with these characters? I like building houses in TS4, but yet again, what's the point if I don't want anyone to live there? What's the point of having these few good things if the main point of the game, which is life simulation, is boring and practically non-existent while potentially interesting gimmicks, cause that's what active careers and whatnot are, get old in about an hour? I only ever paid for the base game, which cost me nearly 3000 rubles in 2014, which was very expensive at the time, and never paid for a single pack. I pirate it every now and again to build a few houses and see what it has to offer, but I am not going to pay for a game that is this lazy and half-assed, not to mention so blatantly greedy. Edit: Forgot to add, but there is one thing in particular that shows just how empty TS4 is. And for me, it's cheat codes. Rejuvenation chamber for TS1 (CC), need cheats for TS2 and TS3, I use them so that I can explore areas, mechanics and features. It may not be as challenging, sure, but the point is, there is stiff to do. In TS4, however, there's nothing to do. And what is there does not leave a lasting impression and is repetitive.
I'm not touching Sims 4 until the Gallery gives me notifications again. The main reason I play is to share my builds and sims. Getting a notification while I play that someone liked my stuff gives me a serotonin boost to keep going. If I have to go into my catalog to see that, the serotonin isn't there. On the older builds, I have no idea if anyone likes it if EA won't tell me. I've been playing TS2 and TS3 basically since Growing Together. Currently I'm working on making a Strangetown downtown so it has a consistent desert look. I might even make a desert shopping district. Sims 4 could never.
ooo, that strangetown downtown sounds cool. i'd kill to have that in my ts2, will you be sharing it anywhere?
Avid Sims 3 player here, I can say that I've tried to play TS4 YEARS ago and could not. I maybe had it installed for a day or two before I deleted it entirely. I second-hand watch from Simmer on KZhead who play TS4 but man, what a shitshow. All of it. I do wish that the build mode in Sims 3 was as high-tech as it is now but I make do and I have lots of fun with creating solutions with cheats. I'll play all the Sims, excluding the 4th, until the end of time. It's my creative outlet and has done so much good for me without any stupid kits. When will EA hear our voices, ENOUGH DAMN KITS!! Focus on the gameplay.
You spoke nothing but facts ❤
my problem is that i absolutely love building and creating sims and in that aspect sims 4 absolutely rules 😩 but actual gameplay? it sucks. i just started playing ts2 again a week ago and its such a stark contrast. like i literally dont give a damn about how my sims or house looks bc i am so focused on gameplay and having fun. really puts it in perspective again. all the little details (the couch and water physics for example)
Sims 4, I hate the game because I still make myself play it from time to time… I see a moderately fun let’s play and I’m like “okay, there is something nice going on here” but when I myself go to play it… I get bored after 2 or 3 1 hour sessions of this game… I hate that I spent so much into it because I thought maybe the next expansion was the missing link. I hate the community drama every time there is something for the game (I bet EA does it on purpose, to build clout, even if it’s bad publicity). I hate… so many things about it. I essentially returned to Sims 3 at this point, or just go play something else
I never played Sims 4, it has pretty objects and they did a good job at build mode but as I have seen many youtubers focus on building rather than playing, the look of the sims is too cartoony for my taste, even the horses look like a cartoon, The Sims 3 horses looked like an actual horse. I prefer Sims 3 which is my fav from all the Sims games, I know it has its problems but open world from the base game it's something a pretty object or a well done build mode can't beat, I play it along with Sims 2 and even Sims 1 till this very day and even though Sims 4 is free to download I am not interested in playing it, I rather have its pretty objects converted for TS3 or TS2 and that's about it.
I can't build objects disappeared if I try to put them in do you know anyone else with the same problem
just to put a dissenting opinion in the mix, i've been playing the sims for since launch day when i was 13 and since then i have put about 6,600 hours into it. i've also played at least two thousand hours of the sims 3 and still return to it often. i like the games for vastly different reasons. the sims 4 is the best sims game for imagination and storytelling, and the modding community makes the game worth it for me. i know a lot of people don't want to play a game that requires some level of roleplay to have the most fun while the mechanics aren't too great, but i still find a lot of joy in creating a sim or two that i'll play to their deaths, then carry on playing at their descendants, crafting complex interpersonal storylines that fill in the gaps of gameplay. the older sims games have personal dealbreakers for me that suck a lot of my fun out, like frustration in ts3 about my sims getting stuck on everything (even after doing the tricks in game files and placing furniture farther apart). and i find the sims 2 unplayable because the way you go backward in time when you come home from a community lot makes the sims' days feel so non-cohesive and unrealistic. the sims 4 is a game that requires a lot of heavy lifting on the part of the player and the modding community, and i understand a lot of people think it makes it worse, but it's what i love about it. i dont have any issues with you beefing with the sims 4 and ESPECIALLY ea, get your bag messy king. i stick around for your sims 3 builds and gaming and funny blunt personality. i could keep talking in defense of ts4 but i wont make this comment any more miserably long than it has to be. closing argument/ tldr: people who play this game love it for good reasons.
I will admit that with 100gb of CC and mods, i think you're absolutely right. I was able to make passable short films in the sims 4 bc each sim basically does what whatever you want (eventually). Also, as much as I despise the emotion system for game play, if you are sneaky with it, you get the facial expressions you need for screenshots and filming.
@@Rekowcski yes, this too! i used ts4 to make my character/house from a ttrpg campaign, and using MCCC to give my sim whatever moodlets i want and set up various animations made my references to show other players much more lively and accurate than my friends who found 2D art online
Not even an AI supported, nitrogen-cooled, Quantumsupercomputer can run The Sims 4…
The Sims 3 has a smooth patch mods and now I never return to The Sims 4 again.
Same haha
The thing i hate about The Sims 4 is that you have to create a family first before you can edit the town so when u get to edit town then save and exit the game. So when i load the game back up you have to go back to the family you created before you can edit the town/world again. This was not in other sims games as you can edit the town without having to make a family first and another thing is the worlds/towns look to cartoony nothing like the other sims worlds where they looked realistic
I agree with all these points about the game, but I have another issue with EA itself that I'm surprised people aren't as angry about as I would have expected. After waiting 1.5 years, I have finally been able to buy a new gaming laptop and all I wanted to do was run the Sims 3 smoothly - but it turns out that there is a big issue with newer processors. The game only opens once and then simply never runs again for me, despite trying all the fixes multiple times. This has been an issue since at least Dec 2021 and EA has done nothing about it - they are still selling the sims 3 and it is often completely unplayable! I just don't understand why this isn't a bigger issue!
i am terrified to update anything in my PC, in fear that Sims 2 or 3 will break :(
@@Rekowcski Every time my PC asked me if I want to upgrade to Win 11, I just said no. XD
I got the free Sims 4 base game and THAT'S IT. Way too much money was spent getting all the expansion packs for Sims 3. I refuse to put myself through that again.
If you were disappointed with the sims 3 expansions then the sims 4 would make you cry 😭
@@Rekowcskiyeah, I'm still upset that the Late Night trailer tricked me into thinking I'd have a full band with a SINGER. Uhg! Lesson learned. I just kept getting the packs to complete the game and swore to myself I'd never ever do this again. ESPECIALLY, after they released Island Paradise and left it a completely unplayable mess to abandon everyone for the Sims 4. I felt hoodwinked.
The sims 4 is following a similar path. Usually it takes 3 to 5 packs to get the same content that the sims 3 gave us, and now all the new packs break the game 😞
@@Rekowcski yeah, when i saw how little there was in the base game and how i received no enjoyment from it like i did the sims 3 base game, i knew things weren't going to go well. So i stuck with what i had.
I've been on a cycle of continuously coming up with storylines, creating different sims and scenarios in The Sims 4, but quitting and not actually playing anything. I thought that was a me problem, turns out I just need to downgrade to a previous game.
Depending on how you like to play, the sims 2 or 3 will be a gameplay upgrade from your sims 4 experience.
I love SatchonSims, he's the only simmer on KZhead thats realistic and brutally honest, while still making hilarious videos.
Just stop and Think . This is the only sims ( 4) game that's been give away for free permanently
0:05 Me 😭😭😭😭
Every sims girlie 😭
How about you make video like "playing the sims 4, when i get bored the video ends" the video would be 0,01 second in length
I haven’t BOUGHT a sims 4 pack since like the 2nd expansion I think? I wish others would follow suit and start telling EA how they feel with their pockets because the CEO doesn’t care what you say if you’re still buying the damn product. As long as the CEO’s pockets are getting filled it doesn’t matter what the devs want and it doesn’t matter what you want. But sims players just keep buying everything that comes out so the franchise is gonna be run into the ground just like fallout. I’m sure the sims 5 will be like fallout 76 and piss everyone off but I really really hope they get it together. Maybe the competitors coming out will motivate them to do more but I doubt it
Once I tried TS4, I very quickly stopped playing and came back running to TS1 and TS2. The amount of DLC feels overwhelming yet lacking in depth. The word that describes it best to me is sanitized.
I hate now EA since the moment he made the base game FREE even that I paid 60 dollars for the complete base game! And they did not gave me any refund or any sort of compensation. EA is a mockery
I really don't believe sims took better care of themselves in earlier games. There's a reason why challenges like Asylum were so popular. Sims are dumb. I remember watching my Sims 2 character kill herself in an Apocalypse challenge because she was tired and hungry and bored and needed to pee, so kept stamping out any thought to take care of one of those needs. (Hint, she needed to eat first.) She eventually starved to death because she refused to walk 4 steps to the fridge and eat. Conversely,. the first thing I tried upon getting Sims 4 in 2014 was an asylum as best I could set up going off of old rules. The only death was due to embarrassment. The Sims 4 sims were stupidly good at taking care of themselves, which made it boring. I gave up on Sims 4 early on, so maybe things changed & they somehow became dumber?
I still don't get what ppl to expect. It's a modern day EA game, it's gonna be realised before it's even finished it's gonna have dlc for dlc.
Well said! I enjoy your videos and your build style. Your thought process is very thorough and you’re very articulate. Thanks for creating sims content. I enjoy the sims 3 and I like to hop on the sims for dis bandwagon every once in a while :)
Bought the base game when it first came out, having been an avid player of the first three games. I was confused, then shocked, then angry when I realised how pared down the game was. I shelved it after my first playthrough and never touched it again. Fans were gaslit and dismissed when they expressed their disappointment. I will never buy another Sims game.
most sim youtubers have too much money so when a new pack comes out they hype it so much as they know they are going to get it so they are just gonna treat it like a brand new base game update, but for everyone else it just gets them excited for something that they really shouldnt be.
Sadly I think you're right :(
I have gone back to playing the Sims 4, despite now having a computer that can run the Sims 3 beautifully. But that’s because the Sims 3 will suck me in and has the potential for me to want to play for literal days! But now with a 10-month-old, a PhD thesis to write, and a clinical psychology programme to attend, I don’t have the time to get into my game. So the Sims 4 gives me a taste of simming that is easy to turn off when I need to focus on something else 😅
Yes, that is the one downside to Sims 3, it's so addicting it can cause people to neglect their real lives.
All they did was generate some random sim, slapped red hair on her and called her Dina and that was it.
Ive never heard this theory before, but I absolutely agree and think that makes the most sense 😂 😭
There are some points in the video I agree with but I don't actually mine the game and I do feel sometimes things are overhyped but I would consider myself a casual fan as I play it basically daily
I stopped in 2015, could only stand a couple months before going back to Sims 2 and 3
Sigh - okay, I'll admit that I am indeed playing some Sims 4 this week, and yes, I did recently purchase a Sims 4 pack. It was only my third pack, and it should be my last pack. The problem is that for the last 12 years or so, whenever I did something difficult or had a special day and thought to get myself a treat, I always got something new for my Sims 3 game; now I have pretty much everything so I thought it might be okay to buy something for my Sims 4 game instead . . . but I mostly wish I hadn't. What I have found with running the Sims 4 packs I have is that yes, the infants are cute (and they were what I was interested in, since they are the only thing in Sims 4 that hasn't been done better in earlier games), but you have to get DLC just to get the actual infant experience. Then once you have it, it's soooo stressful! The needs for all of the sims decay too fast to actually get things accomplished; the simulation lag has the parent sims (especially the mother, for some reason) spending half their day just standing doing stupid idle animations while I keep getting notifications that if the infant doesn't get fed it's going to get taken away; the toddler sim is constantly upset and sad because her parents pay no attention to her EVEN WHEN THEY ARE SITTING BESIDE HER READING A BOOK WITH HER! Throw in the killer freezes (the kind where the loading screen freezes and you can't even get task manager up to turn the game off and have to press the power button to turn off your computer completely just to get rid of the stupid game), which happen a few times a week, and I start wondering "why am I playing this game? Because it definitely isn't for fun and relaxation . . ." My special lunchtime treat today was starting up a new Sims 3 game file so that I can have a break from Sims 4. I will probably still play it every once in awhile (once a month or so) because I did stupidly spend money on it; no doubt it will continue to be useful in reminding me of how much fun I could be having if I was playing Sims 3 instead!
Have you tried the Sims 1 and/or 2? 2 was my first one and after my PC died back than, i had a backup PC that could only run 1. I found out that both of them have a charm on their own. So if you want a change of pace from time to time, You could always try one of those. ( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)👍
@@The_One_Over_There I have tried both, starting with Sims 1 when I was just a kid! :) I agree that they both have their own charms. Sims 2 is the one I've played the least, so I should probably go back to it sometime. But Sims 3 will probably always be my favorite of the four, since it is closest to what I want from a life sim. :D
ah ok, That's perfectly understandable 👍
why EA, despite so many dissatisfied players, still does not change this game. It would be nice if there was a big update that created a new sim story, added cars, ancestors, more with sims, etc. It would be a step towards a great game. I think there are a lot of people in the company who would like to do this. The question is, why aren't you still changing for the better? Boring game.
They don't change anything because the game still makes them tonnes of money. Complaining alone doesn't achieve anything. You also have to stop buying this junk. Only when less money comes in will EA perhaps start to rethink...
i've totally given up on the sims 4! i will never install it again... why would i waste my time on such a lackluster and boring game when i could just play sims 2 or 3 for an actual guaranteed fun gameplay experience!
i just found your channel and i really like your content and i cant believe you dont have more subs.. im so over the sims 4, i only downloaded it when the base game became free and also got some packs on sale and was so excited bc of all the hyped up and fun reviews/lp’s. but god it is so insanely boring, whenever i was exploring a new world i finished after 2 minutes and just sat there like: so… what am i supposed to do other than go to the store or go fishing? there is NOTHING to do and the little things you can do are annoying experiences bc of the closed lot system. i own i think 4 expansion packs and some stuff/game packs or whatever its called and it still somhow feels like im playing a beta version or a mobile game in terms of depth. ts4 just lacks a “soul”. the longest time i ever play ts4 is when im building. pure gameplay has me quitting after 1h max, but buildmode in ts4 is its ONLY good asset. and its supposed to be a life simulator, not a building simulator. i dont get the people (youtubers mainly) getting excited over every single sims 4 thing, especially kits. KITS?? woo a 2 pixel glass with toothbrushes in and some towels THIS IS SO GORGEOUS I NEED IT TO BUILD PROPER BATHROOMS, WE DESPERATELY NEEDED THIS HALF EMPTY BOOKSHELVE TO PUT DECORATIVE PLANTS INSIDE! it gets comical at some point. seriously if you like some aspects of the game im happy for you but no one can tell me they actually get excited over stuff like kits or the ability to ride horses and make wine for 40$ unless maybe youre a kid and have no concept of money. but then again i as a kid played ts3 on 3DS for 12 hrs straight every day and was happy
Welcome! I'm glad you didn't waste your money on the whole collection, trust me it doesn't get any more fun or playable when you cram all the packs into the game. Do you play any older sims games? You mentioned the 3DS game, which is funny because I remember the original DS game had an open world despite Sims 4 not being able to run 2 lots hahah
I just love watching shittalk videos about ts4 😂❤ it's my guilty pleasure.
It's kind of like someone talking bad about an ex haha
@@Rekowcski 👏EXACTLY👏
Here's a good example of my personal experience playing the sims 2 vs 4 Sims 4 = Spend hours and hours creating really cool looking characters and then be bored as hell trying to play them Sims 2 = Spend hours and hours perfecting and crafting and recreating the lives of the prebuilt families just so that when I invetibly spend hours creating and playing my own family I have a cohesive, entertaining and unique playthrough in a neighbourhood that feels handcrafted by me. Its just not the same.
So I got out of playing world of warcraft to do sims four.... I just got tired of the repetitive kill kill kill and more killing. It's ok, let's get into this. I think I'd play this year's ago, and wanted to see how it is now. Oh my goodness it is so aggravating. This is more aggravating than my own life. Why play a game that is Aggravating, complicated And not to mention Stressful. I thought the point of the game was supposed to be fun, uplifting and exhilarating. I think some of the personality traits on these characters are a little overdone. I played lone wolf.... Wow it's psychotic... She can't be around no one at any length at time.... It's a cartoon version of a karen.... Then you can't tell them what to do because a lot of times they want to do what they want to. Then they stand next to the fire and you can't get them to move and then now they're on fire. Then my outdoor grill catches on fire and she couldn't even use the phone in order to call for the fire department. Back to the lone wolfing again.... How do you get somebody to talk to somebody if they don't want to talk to no one. You cannot fill up your social if they don't want to be social. Alright, now the property taxes. Or lot taxes. What the heck is that....? I've always had to pay my taxes like that for my house yearly. They should have just called it mortgage... Yeah you pay your mortgage every month. But just because I have an extra couch doesn't mean that my lot taxes should go up. Cause my lot taxes has nothing to do with if I buy another lamp or not. Only if I use it and then my electric will go up. Alright if you want to do it like reality.... Then make it where we've got to have a permit to build. And anybody who's ever built knows what you gotta go through on that. This is supposed to be a game to be enjoyed and have fun with. And not have a time that where it leaves you more frustrated than life itself. I have a home that is seventeen hundred square feet.... I live by myself.... I have more lights in this house than I do in my game.... But yet the electric is triple than what my real life bill is... And she lives by herself... Of course, cause she's a loner.... I see why people uses a lot of the cheat codes.... You know that you've got a problem with your game. If more people are using cheat codes, then not!
i play world of warcraft classic hardcore 😭
Sims 4 is just a "perfect insta life" simulator
Well, I played from the beginning The Sims - first Sims 1 (of course) and then Sims 2, never Sims 3. I couldn't play Sims 2 on my new computers any more, so I decided last year (2022) to start with Sims 4. I have a few packs and actually I like to play it, because to decorate a house is much more better than in Sims 2. But after I decorated (and renovated) a house, it gets boring. I try to tell some stories, but I always have to shake my head because of so much nonsense: the Sim goes through another Sim or a wall; the interaction doesn't stop; one Sim greets another Sim on the door, they go inside and after that again outside in front of the door to talk... But of course there are many nice things, nonetheless I am still missing Sims 2 and its details.
Everything in the sims 4 looks big , bulky, square.
Saw the title and i immediately clicked x good to see you again Rek!!!
Sims4 suck like around 2016/17 (when it was clear that it won't evolve and only cost me lots of money for nothing) or even right from the beginning.