INSANE Luxury Watches Under Microscope Part 2 !! WOW! 🤯 Rolex VS Grand Seiko VS A.Lange & Söhne
Ever wondered how watches look under a microscope? Rolex VS Grand Seiko VS A. Lange & Söhne were the top comments on the last video, tell us which watches do you want to see next time!
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01:26 My Hair
02:31 Rolex GMT Master II "Pepsi"
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You must you use this microscope in a fake VS genuine watch comparison. Show the true differences.
That's a good idea :)
If you need a microscope to find the difference in watches get the fake and save money
Absolutely!!! But normally you can use your eyes from 10 feet.
@@superpinbang694 that’s if you are just buying for fake ego or acting like you have money! There are perfectly good functioning watches for less then $30us, just buy that if it’s just for function. Or get a smart watch still cheaper than a Rolex with more functions. The Watches here are an investment and appreciation of craftsmanship! With a knock-off, you are paying literally for the name and not the actual craftsmanship and function that made the name!
It would be shame for the real one if the fake can immitate above 80%
As a machinist and toolmaker, I can testify that even the small defects you find on some of these watches are still amazingly close to perfect, machining especially by hand such small parts is extremely difficult and the defects are what gives the watches personality and are hand made to very close to perfection. I assume most of the very small parts are made by wire edm using a .006 wire.
I have done jobs on satellite transmitter parts with .002" wire (human hair is .003"). Basically, to go in and chase openings in parts that were originally cut with .006" wire to reduce the corner radii. You have no idea what a complete PITA it is to work with.
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@@ffedurch sounds expensive, I’m only running .25mm wire these days as my machines are now 30 years old.
Grand Seiko's attention to detail at their price point is incredible but the A.Lange & Sohne is literally an art piece on your wrist
incredible price point? is $10K for a spring drive with a nice dial worth it? you can get other luxury watches with actual complications for that price point no?
@@jaydunna2645 you don't like spring drive and the innovation GS brings to the table so I don't think I can explain it to you :) sorry
what is the innovation?@@tunguyentruonganh7428
@@jaydunna2645Grand Seiko Spring Drive makes Swiss watches look basic and aged in comparison. If you’re not such a sheep that the “Swiss” branding turns you into a zombie, then it’s very easy to appreciate the value.
@@Boodoo4You the irony of a Grand Seiko fan calling someone a sheep 😶. My favourite watches are German, but that's cool, i understand why you would want a spring drive with 0 complications for upwards of 5k.
Remember that Grand Seiko is under $6,000 and the level of quality and hand polishing is incredible
I haven't had a watch for over a decade, since my phone tells the date and time. I don't miss the watch tan 😄 sometimes it just feels cooler wearing a watch. Like wearing a suit or nice shoes. It gives you a boost in confidence.
My Tag Heuer for less than the half doesn't look less good.
@@danielhopkins2277 Except your tag heuer uses a basic quartz movement while pretending to be a luxury swiss watch when it just isn't.
@@NJ0711 1. My Tag is an automatic 2 we talking only partly about the movement 3. Still not much less luxury than Grand Seiko, especially for people who aren't into watches
@@danielhopkins2277 1. Don't care 2. Don't care 3. Don't care Tag Heuer doesn't come close to Grand Seiko in terms of finishing, movement and accuracy.
The Keyence microscope is the star of the show here!
Where can i find this microscope
We use their sensors and i must say they are very advance in that field.
@@sultanbino when you cough up 70k
Seriously...my mind is blown
haha yea!
My dad worked on watches as a repairman back in the '60's. Fascinating seeing such workmanship so close. I have his Self Winding Bulova watch from 1956. Still works.
The Grand Seiko looks very special especially for the price. Great show guys, thank you x
The level of hand finishing on the Lange watch is from another planet, it’s the pinnacle of pure class craftsmanship within the Watch industry
So perfect it looked like CGI lol
That's not surprising - the Lange is a German watch.
It really is amazing how fine the quality is at a surface level, but when that quality goes beyond what you can ever see with the naked eye, then you know it's something special. I'm impressed with the GS.
GS did well.
GS is a *real* masterwork. It's only looked down on by snobs because it has electronics in it. Rolex on the other hand makes a million watches a year.. almost as many as the Casio G-Shock in its heyday.
It’s truly incredible how perfect the GS is and it’s Handmade! definitely my Holy Grail of watches truly amazing
@@stickyfox do GS automatics really have electronics in them?
@@andreashabeck1155 I can't afford one so I'll admit I don't know if this describes the *whole* product line, but the humbly named Spring Drive uses a quartz-calibrated "magnetic brake" on a caliber that runs faster than normal by design. The extra energy of the balance wheel is turned into electricity and burned in just the right amount to keep the watch accurate. I can get why a "purist" might consider this cheating in a sense. I have heard it compared to a "cheap quartz watch," and maybe that's why they don't use the Q-word too loudly. But IMO it is *the* most advanced and artistic timepiece. Rolex IMO showcases aesthetic traits like laser engraving and superlative finishing/polishing, but inside it's still largely the same watch they made in the 50s. Seiko were not content to stop there. Again, I have more human concerns vying for my money so this is just my perspective as an engineer and builder of (much larger) machines. If I was flush with money and wanted to make a statement, I feel like the GS better exemplifies the spirit of innovation and technical restlessness that moves us forward, and the Rolex is like any other watch. But the Milgauss is also a beautiful piece of engineering for all the same reasons, don't get me wrong.
Grand seiko is so underrated, if spring drive was made by rolex it would be hailed as the greatest movement of all time.
haha probably
its not underrated what are you saying ? people buy them, people love them. not as much as rolex obviously, cuz rolex is better in many regards.
@@sergezerkin better as in what, precisely?
It's not underrated at all on the internet. The internet is littered with GS fanboys.
@@MS-pd2yo I think Rolex is better in keeping value over the years.
As a professional photographer, I am totally in love with this microscope set up!!
Then why don't you marry it.
@@youtubecensors5419 most funniest watch enthusiast
$70k US!
@@paintballplayer700 yeah, painful
Never had so much fun watching 2 guys look at watches under a microscope ❤😂
As an artist, and as someone who apricates functional art such as high-end watches, I love how you guys made what would typically be a less than stimulating discussion into one that is quite entertaining while maintaining informative integrity.
Thanks for your kind comment!
Those watches were beautiful peices though. He's right you could stare at that Lange movement for days.
Luxury goods is about brand recognition, and they are mostly bought by people who want to flaunt their wealth. Details like this don't concern them unless it makes them look less "prestigious".
@@sepg5084 in part maybe. But not the majority. In everyday life virtually nobody notices your watch so it's rather useless to "flaunt one's wealth". In certain circles, like the local country club, golf club, yacht club, etc., maybe.
sorry, the only lovely thing here, it's the microscope
The energy in this video is amazing. That A. Lange & Söhne takes the crown today. Hands down. We need Pierre to appear more on the channel.
Kind of you, 😊
Lange is 20x the price. Do you think the finishing was 20x better than GS?
@@arashmalekzadeh1 frankly, yes I do. I believe that there should not be a lot of rationality behind your watch purchases. The heart wants what it wants
But they never zoomed 200x on the Lange dial... The GS finishing was incredible
They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
The Rolex doesn't compare with the GS or Lange - beautifully impressive pieces.
You guys took us on a journey that wouldn’t normally be possible…thank you! I love all three watches. If money was not a concern, that Lange would be on my wrist right now. Then the Grand Seiko. The Rolex is used & we therefor should give it more of a pass on the micro-review. What a fascinating visual adventure! Keep doing segments like this guys. Besides the intriguing magnification tour, this approach also gives us a much more detailed look of the dial, hand details, & of some mind-blowing movements! Bravo!
The A. Langer & Sohne stands out like a Sphinx, incredible piece of German craftsmanship.
May we ask for more such videos please? Thank you for featuring the GS. The AL&S was the star of this show, unbelievable!
I think they should have taken more 200X shots on the hands and indexes of the Lange.. It feels like they scrutinized the Rolex and GS more
You may and we'll make them for sure!
But first a haircut for Pierre. Man buns are…..😖
What annoys me is that they took the worst brand of Switzerland They should have taken a Patek Phillipe, a Audemars Piguet, H. Moser & Co or Jacob & Co or any other better brand than Rolex Rolex used to do good things, but they don't anymore
@@syxalite We took the brands people suggested. We had my AP in the first Microscope video we did and will introduce more on the future so stay tuned.
Front dial of the Lange & Söhne with the depth it has and the movement shadowed underneath is just insane. I would probably want to wear something like the Grand Seiko with it's equal precision.. but wow that Lange & Söhne...
The Grand Seiko's finishing is extraordinary except only for the minute stain on the minute hand. Looking forward to unboxing one.
The A.Lange & Söhne was amazing, im sorry but Rolex doesn't even compare. Its like Supreme vs professional tailor made clothes.
supreme is a skate brand lol they don’t make clothes for quality they make them for style
@@dylan7657 thats the point lol
@@Immortal_BP what do you mean the rolex was preowned
Is it correct: You compare new watches with pre-owned watches? Would be unfair.
Uh yeah, different price points and different purposes. Would I use ALS as a daily driver? No. Rolex? Absolutely
When you take into account the prices, the Grand Seiko was the best. This video shows how over rated Rolex is. A very interesting video thanks. Just subscribed.
yea, welcome to the channel!
Man anything with a premium price is over priced. Same goes for Grand Seiko. Just look at how many 100 if not 1000's % value increase they give this crap.
I also feel Rolexes are overrated but...... what do I know right?
A Rolex is a Rolex though
I’ll take a The legendary Rolex
Brilliant stuff. And seeing how great the hand engraving on the A Lange movement looks under the microscope… a masterpiece! For the fun of if, could you bring the PP Aquanaut? Any of them… would love to see the indices 😅
That third one's movement is definitely mesmerizing. The dial is awesome as well. Would never be able to amass enough money for it, so the GS is looking pretty good.
This combination of luxury watches under extreme magnification is brilliant. Please make a part 3, and 4, and 5, 6, 7...
How about looking at some famous vintage watches and their movements? Would be interesting to see what the old manufacturing produced under high magnification.
Excellent point! Love to see vintage under the scope...repeat seiko, rolex & lange...see then and now @Swiss Watch Gang
Yea, good idea!
Vintage watches will be worse, why would you believe they wouldn't? manufacturing process were not as refined 30 years ago.
Vintage watches have up to 50 years of wear-n-tear that will be pronounced under high magnification. Manufacturing processes have evolved over time. You don't really own a watch for time reading purposes, you own a mechanical watch because it's a work of art.
Great idea, please do that! Love to see proper watches up close! :)))
The sharpness and precision on the hands of the GS is really impressive.
That A. Lange & Sohne watch is poetry in motion. Beautiful!
A total win for GS…despite being by far the cheapest watch of these three.
I could watch the A. Lange & Söhne movement all day. I wish I could use it as a live wallpaper on my phone and desktop!
I watch wristwatch revival all the time, so seeing a movement that complicated was insane! And the engraving on the back, it's no wonder it's that expensive
That Grand Seiko was so well done.
Yessir....best made watch for your money period. Just doesn't carry the brand hype...like the Swiss conglomerate
When you look at the German watch you don’t zoom 200X like you did with the GS...a bit biased
Nah, original video was 1hr40min long so we took a lot out on all ends. You can see imperfections on the Lange as well.
16:49
I just seen that Seiko rules in time keeping.
Why don’t you? Fool.
@@SwissWatchGang and you let over 2 min about the hair 🙄
This was great! Thank for allowing us a view of these amazing details.
The A.Lange & Söhne is an example of layered experience and engineering that highlights the beauty of invention and experience over centuries. Amazing video.
Was fun making another watch video! I willl also soon post regular youtube videos for the more curious people. See you soon again ;)
Excellent, thank you. Subscribed 👍🏻
@@stevefox8605 very appreciated !
@@stevefox8605 They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
@O BOZ They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
Would be interesting to see how affordable watches like orient or lower price Seiko compare to this luxury watches in term of finishing and to see if this amount of money is worth it
As watchmaker I have split feelings with microskping like that. Because some customer are disappointed when they see some little faults and brands could come into struggle selling or producing their pieces. But would customer pay 10x more of the actual price if companys would check their watches like that?! Remember the watchmaker check their finishing work with 3x to 10x loupe while playing with light on the workbench not with 200x on the screen! On the other hand I feel like there are too many luxury watches on the market. That magnification thing could help to decrease the quantity and increase the quality. But still a intresting video. I wonder how a watch from the "godfather of finish" would look like under this microscope ;)
Would be awesome to get a PD under the microscope, I have a friend with one, but hard to travel now due to covid...
I see it as keeping the higher price brands in check. Would I expect perfection on a 10k watch? No. Would I expect it on a 200k watch? Yes.
Same here. I do watch repair. So much of the things people go crazy over annoy the crap out of me. And all by people who don't see a watch at the level you and I do. Gets annoying.
Rolex upcharges their watches by absurd amounts. With their billions of dollars surely they can afford many such microscopes for quality assurance department.
1st time viewer... Subscribing to the channel for sure... These zoom in details and flaws are impressive to see especially on expensive watches...!!!
This is awsome! i worked with a microscope in a watch company years ago, but not with this stunning options (like stacking, 3D) can you tell us more about the technical details of the microscope, hard- & software please?
After being a watch enthusiast for a few years, watching this video convinced me to buy my first Grand Seiko (SBGA429.) I'm truly loving this new GS, and very quickly becoming a GS fanboy. ;-)
Awesome!!
How much it cost u?
@Just do itYup. And the watch featured in the video (SBGA407) is the latest addition to my collection.
@@zhuzhu9599 I don't know which he got, but between $2000 to $10,000.
That last watch was one of the most beautiful things ive seen in my life! Humans are awesome!
haha nice! :D
I would always prefer the Rolex, because it's cooler and doesn't cost anything. But the movement of the german watch is pure porn. I would like to have it in an glass body to see every detail.
Ive always been fixing things since i was a kid (moved onto cars and electronics) and into art, but ive recently decided to dig into why watches are so much. Very neat stuff.
Wow, what beauty. Well done, gentlemen. Well done. The A.Lange & Söhne movement is impossible to believe.
This is one of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen.
Thanks Herman, means a lot!
you guys should 100% do the Holy Trinity of watches next time or some vintage watches if possible, that would be dopeeeee!
Noted! Thanks for watching M. :D
This video got me subscribed. Great craftmanship on the GS for the price. Amazing!
I like how you guys are smiling the whole time and enjoying what you are doing that makes for a great video. Cheers.
This is just insane 🤩 you should definitely make more videos like this!
Agreed
Thanks! Will do :D
You two would make a great comedy duo. It's a reverse of the usual pattern where the main guy is the straight man and the sidekick/guest is the zany one.
lol
The quality of the GS under the microscope is simply amazing. Seriously a well made watch.
This is awesome content! Ty for sharing p.s. dope microscope 😎💯
Very cool video! Results were as expected but now I'm even more surprised by GS than I was before! maybe someday... Also I like the vibe between you two, really entertaining to watch and I'm definitely down for part 3!
Thank you, glad you liked it and Part 3 is definitely coming!
I need a GS even more after seeing this video
Won't hold value like a Rolex
Obviously the reason isnt value... not everybody buys for investment.
@@psychoticbreaks167justletm4 doesn't make sense to flush money down the toilet. If you buy smart you can have best of both worlds.
@@bdegrds Buying a watch as an investment, especially a STEEL watch, is the dumbest thing ever. And a Grand Seiko is cheaper then a Rolex, but also far superior visually and mechanically. So flushing down money the toilet, is buying a Rolex because it’s a Rolex, instead of something you truly enjoy.
haha
This is a fantastic partnership and you two have excellent chemistry.
That A Lange & Söhne is downright gorgeous. Well done you guys.
GS snowflake is just gorgeous, the polishing is insane.
I highly recommend. I get some of the most sincere compliments on my GS/seikos, and I have gifted seiko 5 divers to many friends to get their collections started
Definitely a nice watch!
@@rajgill7576 I believe that!
@@rajgill7576. Unfortunately you will never be able to sell a Seiko for more or even the same price you payed for, unlike Rolex that will increase in price . Also, I believe that if if you’d displayed 100 watches of both brands on a table, giving to anyone passing by the watch of hi choice, the first Seiko will go after the last Rolex is picked.
@@RealEstateBaby not at all, I just like what’s original, esthetic and classy
A Holy Trinity microscopic comparison would be nice. Curious if they can match the ALS
Holy trinity is just a name. Every review says that Lange is the most superb quality brand in watch industry. Also HT has not come with any breaking complication in years. It's overhyped myth.
@@arturgarncarz3631 wrong.
@@BobbyDazzler888 prove
@@arturgarncarz3631 Depends on what you include in the category of "brand". If you include Philippe Dufour, Greubel Forsey, H. Moser, Laurent Ferrier, FP Journe... Then Lange starts getting some competition.
@@benbowland yes, noone can reach the level of finishing of philippe dufour watches
Have watched this previously. But this came up in my feed to watch again. Mind blowing.
first time ive seen this account, original idea youtube wise from what ive seen, keep it up !
Well, no one is anywhere near those macro shots! Incredible! Most enjoyable video, thank you both. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
The clever meshing of 2 gears with very different tooth sizes was my favorite thing in the Lange.
Seeing the magnification rotate looks amazing... Especially with deep parts like the Lange movemend or Rolex amgnification glass
That last one is a engineering marvel in my opinion, absolutely beautiful
Bucket List: Watch a video about analyzing watches with a microscope *check*
This is one of the most interesting videos I've seen in a while. Nice idea and execution!
2nd that
Thank you!
Absolutely incredible guys! Thanks a lot for that cool vid!
I would like to have seen a microscopic comparison of an A. Lange & Sohne and a Patek Philippe since they would be very competitive in price. I always had a feeling that A. Lange finishing was world class and this video just proved it. Just wish I could afford one!
I can tell this channel is about to blow up. 34k subs at time of post. Good luck fellas. This is great content and quite educational-ish.
Would love to see a Vacheron Constantin under the scope. It would be awesome if you could do the Holy Trinity ---VC, PP and AP That Grand Seiko is just incredible period. It hits way above it's weight money wise. Not really fair for the Rolex being it is a used watch. The finish shows much better under the crystal
It was recommended by KZhead and, I’m not a watch guy, but watching this video was fun & informative. Thank you guys 👍😊
Very unique format of video ,thank u very much im very appreciate
That microscope is sick man. As a Rolex watchmaker I use x25 loupe at max. So seeing stuff x200 magnified was awesome. So crisp and sharp as well.
Thanks and I'm glad you liked it!
That's not a microscope. It's a stereoscope!
I'm not a watch guy, meaning in the business but, I really enjoyed your video. It is absolutely amazing to see the other world that exists under a microscope, (or as I call it, the world within a world). You have to ask yourself, are we the world under someone else's microscope! Really cool stuff guys! Loved it!
I’d love to see inside the FP Journe automatique Lune or the Quantieme Perpetuel. It’d also be pretty cool to see a vintage JLC or a Rolex Red Sub 1680 or 6536 just for fun.. loved looking at the A. Longe, by far my favorite out of these three.
indepth insight to understanding the watches. thanks guys for puting in effort. Stay blissful.
First time on here, just discovering your you tube channel and so far its great. Brillliant use of microscope at x200 brings a whole new perspective on the watches and their quality. A couple feed back if you haven’t already done it. 1: compare a Newly unopened watch to a refurbished watch to see if the quality holds up. 2: definitely do fake watches to real ones 3: in-depth slow-mo of working movements, kind like what you did with the A.Lange & Sohne chronograph (push button, then cut to reverse of movement up close) keep up the good work guys 10/10
That German watch is insanely amazing, hands down the best in my opinion. Great video!
love this video format. you should make more
Amazing! The german watch, especially the screw to secure a 'swan' part... beautiful. Wonderful engineering & fabulous magnification. Thanks
The Grand Seiko has a beautiful classic design. The A. Lange & Söhne isn’t a watch, it’s a work of art that happens to relay time and date. The owner of the Rolex wants to thank you for making his well cared after watch, look trashed.
Agree on the GS and ALS. Regarding the Rolex, he knows and doesn't care about it haha, last video I got from him was him using the bracelet to open a champagne bottle "sabrage style" xD
Fantastic video. The Lange movement is just stupendous and even more so under the microscope. Grand Seiko also was also so impressive, especially for the price.
Magnification inception!!! lololol subbed. Great discussion, this was my first video, effen dope man.
Could you do a microscope comparison between GS White Birch vs Lange’s entry level pieces to see how close/far apart the quality of movement finishing?
My favorite GS detail is that they polish the underside of the hands to the same level as the other sides, so when you look under a microscope like this you can see the bottom of the minute and second hands reflected in the hour hand.
Awesome. The A. Lange&Söhne finishing is amazing!
Oh yea, absolutely!
Great job guys, you are doing a great work here, very interesting to watch.Have you ever considered to have a scale form 1-10 for every watdch and every part you observe on each watch and score them, like finish, edges.etc, and score them 1-10 and in the end you cn score ech wtch nd lter on you cn have in few episodes highest ratewd watches one vs another? Great job, interesting content and keep growing. Greetings from Serbia
I'm just watching someone flexing his microscope and someone flexing his watches lol
The one dislike must have been a Rolex GMT owner
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That makes absolutely 0 sense.
@@biglollol let me guess? you own a gmt?
@@gh778 no, but I'm a watchmaker for a Rolex AD. That's why I said it makes no sense.
@@biglollol what makes no sense? it does not come as a surprise, that the more expensive Rolex is finished worse than the GS
It feels like this is what Watchfinder & Co are using to film close-ups. That was fun tho. Hope you make more 😅
haha nah, they use normal cameras, no need for a microscope. :)
That ALange Sohne is a dream! What a piece of technology!
Nice video, the Lange & Söhne is amazing! It would be nice to see a Grönefeld watch under the microscope!
Surprised! The GS dial and hands finishing was better than the A.Lange!
Well, so so. They had both their flavs but GS for that price is great no doubt.
I wouldn't say better, but considering the Lange costs 20 times as much as the GS, it's remarkable just how close the Grand Seiko got
Amazing- we need more time on each watch- I understand the soundbite era, but as you said we could watch the ALS movement for days. I would love a really good look around at various bits of each watch, more to see what's going on over checking for (un)perfection! Great job guys!
Well the original video was about 1hr40min so we cut it down. Wouldn't be as nice as it is now believe me . :)
I could watch an entire video on just the ALS under the scope. And I would like to see a lot more of the GS spring drive movement
great idea,feeling like witnessing the ultimate secrets. good job guys, subscribed !
OMG the Grand Seiko is so beauty and perfect
Absolutely incredible content. I like how the gent handeling the microscope is just as enthusiastic about discovering the details.
hehe I for sure found out some new things there while looking at the watches
@@smallturnsBIG They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
hehe ye i love it ;)
Thank you!
The be fair he indices of the grand seiko are hand polished by eye so imperfections at that magnification are to be expected.
anything under that magnification can happen.
love this super zoom videos. makes you appreciate the craftmanshop more. One suggestion is to have a slower tilt/rotate shot. it made me a bit dizzy from the fast tilt movement. Also more time to enjoy the details
That last watch is on another level. I just don't think I could ever dare to wear it.
looks so delicate.
Great video . Very interesting to see luxury products revealed up close warts and all. Can't say I'm surprised at the results even if it was just a snapshot sampling. Why anyone would pay the grey market prices they are for Daytona's is beyond me. I'd sooner worship at the altar of Lange & Sohne and would go on a waiting list for something that special.