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I don’t want Jack back lol. His ending in Tales was so good and I don’t want current gearbox to sully it.
@lazlotakahashi415011 ай бұрын
His wife and kid being back would most likely change him after all. Assuming we don't get him back, from the last time we see him alive
@kodi172211 ай бұрын
@@kodi1722 I don’t want him to change. That’s just not Jack lol
@lazlotakahashi415011 ай бұрын
With all that cancel culture and shit, bringing back jack will probably not be good
@sasuto457211 ай бұрын
@@lazlotakahashi4150 technically it was Jack, but their accident shaped him into what he’s most recognized as Although I agree, we don’t need him back, it would be too redundant with Timothy and Rhys, and I HIGHLY doubt they would they him back after all teh work it took to take him out
@JDWalker49511 ай бұрын
@@sasuto4572 shut up. lmao.
@Godviahh11 ай бұрын
For me, the storyline I want more about is the seventh siren, and why Nyriad warns about seeking her out.
@LazyboneBandit10 ай бұрын
Didn't Nyriad say that finding the 7th would be the end of everything?
@dwarfdigger13510 ай бұрын
@@dwarfdigger135 It definitely wasn't described favourably!
@LazyboneBandit10 ай бұрын
After NTFTB maybe that’s what we need 😭
@savannahs.587410 ай бұрын
@Hecker Bonker During 2 Tyreen would already have her powers, no?
@LazyboneBandit10 ай бұрын
@@heckerbonker3377 jack says 6 and he knows 3. Angel, lilith, and maya. You could say amara was one at the time so there is still 2 he didnt know and a 7th being 3. I feel like tyreen was maybe born a siren since she was conceived in the vault. How can we say she just wasnt one of the 2 he didnt know??
@inkedvillan8010 ай бұрын
It almost feels like the crystal will just be one big Undo button to fix everything, if it does carry over, and that pretty much kills all the stakes. Maya's death didn't go over well, hey look, we can bring her back! New villains aren't working out, let's bring back Jack! We need a true leader to tackle the Big Bad, let's trash everything we had Lilith go through and our own failed effort at making Ava relevant and bring back Roland! If death is no longer a true danger, the story has no weight to it.
@ShadowRoadX11 ай бұрын
@T.K. Baha, whose entertainment value only goes up after being brought back from the dead
@jansonshrock285911 ай бұрын
Even if they do end up somehow going with that route of bringing people back from dead, I have very little confidence in the current writing team to juggle with that many characters. Said writers already showed how inept they were with BL3, by either sending characters elsewhere off screen or straight up killing them off on screen. And also, Watcher: "There's a great war coming, you need all the help." Writers: "Let's have them go separate ways!"
@acedias1210 ай бұрын
Just call it a parallel universe and boom. Problem solved. Dc and marvel have been making billions off that alone.
@TuxTxFpv9 ай бұрын
Stories don't need dead to carry weight. It is a fallacy to think so.
@jrpgnation63757 ай бұрын
@@jrpgnation6375I agree , a good story is a good story
@captaincrunch17077 ай бұрын
I've still wondered about that "war" and SO expect it to be the finale
@Ishan.khanna11 ай бұрын
I really hope to see all the previous vault hunters return, the ones that are still alive mind you, and band together for whatever the next challenge for Pandora is. Give them all updated and reworked skill trees to make each vault hunter distinct. I still want new vault hunters but they aren't my main concern. Also hopefully some of the mechanics from wonderlands come over the the main series, like the melee improvements and spell like grenades being the most fun new additions.
@chatyxd607811 ай бұрын
the only Vault Hunter, which was missing in Borderlands 3 is Athena. Everybody else is dead or was present in one way or another, even if as a cameo (Salvador and Axton I am talking about you).
@maksymisaiev182810 ай бұрын
I would love to see everyone who died back. There's no real "Catch a Ride" without Scooter, and I would love to see Nisha's ass in this new engine. Plus, we could also undo the oopsie of Maya's death in BL3 in a swift, kind of "Hey, I'm sorry!" way.
@bigbangrafa843510 ай бұрын
I want for bl4 to play every vault hunter from all games
@Rachebart10 ай бұрын
Being Sal again would be fun.
@MrTrev8010 ай бұрын
With Wonderland bringing back Zero would be wise cause we got swords now, just tweak some powers and bam, we got intro Zero bl2 playable
@TheReZisTLust9 ай бұрын
I'm sure a bunch of people have brought it up, but in kriegs mind you can talk to Maya afterwards and she brings up the 6 sirens but says they aren't always the same and something different is coming. I can't wait to see were the story goes.
@seasonedvase270210 ай бұрын
BOYS!! New Eruption Fang BL video dropped!!
@Ki11ersix11 ай бұрын
This would be a moment you wish Roland is still around, they will need all the leadership they will need
@GaryTurbo11 ай бұрын
Right? I also feel they did Lilith dirty in 3, she had more character development in the Commander Lilith DLC for 2 than she did in BL3.
@00Mike5511 ай бұрын
Absolutely only an complete maniac without a brain would leave the control over the crimson raiders in the hands a child that has shown no leadership qualifications or experience in leading people .
@readingfreak880810 ай бұрын
Who needs Roland when we have the amazing Ava to lead us..........😂
@TheCrossed2310 ай бұрын
@@TheCrossed23made no sense why Tannis wasnt given the role. Hell even Liz , Hammerlock , Markus , Marius or friggn Claptrap wouldve made more sense!!
@Armendicus10 ай бұрын
@@TheCrossed23 Damn beat me to it, Pouting face with mad side glance your way I'd kick and scream laying on ground but you can't see that LOL🤣🤣
@josephschultz10 ай бұрын
The watcher is mentioned by the guardians in the proving ground trials and the guardian takedown
@st173411 ай бұрын
A Borderlands game where you can play as all the previous vault hunters would be insane. The question is how the story would be, considering that the idea of being playable means they can't be an npc? Maybe different story paths for certain parts (Which can be played with any vault hunter in TVHM)? There's also all the dead vault hunters.
@notyours80710 ай бұрын
Great idea
@lavellelee573410 ай бұрын
ok but hear me out: MR TORGUE VAULT HUNTER??? *AGGRESSIVE AIR GUITAR NOISES*
@discipleofdagon81959 ай бұрын
It has to build up slowly like MCU, probably won't be till Borderlands 7
@GaryTurbo9 ай бұрын
Nah. Lilith, Roland, Maya, Wilhelm, and Aurelia are all dead. It would make no sense
@martynas18199 ай бұрын
Lilith isnt dead and Wilhelm, and Aurelia are evil and dont care about the war
@GaryTurbo9 ай бұрын
All very valid points and I do hope that especially the war comes into play in 4. But there is one more thing. Nyriad mentioned a 7th Siren. That MUST be a big plot point of Borderlands 4
@FloundBlacky11 ай бұрын
What if Nyriad is the 7th Syren
@ASirensFlame11 ай бұрын
@@ASirensFlame Cant. She is the Leech Siren one of the six we know
@FloundBlacky11 ай бұрын
@@FloundBlacky Wasn't Tyreen the leech siren? Lillith phasewalk Ava phaselock Tennis Phase tech Amara PhaseArms
@ASirensFlame11 ай бұрын
@@ASirensFlame Nyriad was the leech Siren THOUSANDS of years ago. She imprisoned herself in the vault that Typhon and his wife found and freed her powers. Thats why when Tyreen and Troy were born they became the new leech Siren
@FloundBlacky11 ай бұрын
Maybe the weird eridian creature that announced the war is a siren, it was never stated only human could be sirens
@lucienhaulotte404911 ай бұрын
My wishlist for Borderlands 4: The War the Watcher warned us about NEEDS TO HAPPEN!! Ava working with the remaining Bl2 vault hunters to honor Maya's memory and probably going out like a hero. Rhys and Atlas teaming up with the crimson raiders with those ships seen in New Tales from the Borderlands. The only New Tales characters that should be seen are Lou13 and Fran. (Octavio needs to die) No time travel at all Finding Lilith. Space combat Eridian antagonist and last but not least MORE GUNS!!
@michaelknox371511 ай бұрын
Mostly agree, but why does Fran need to be back?
@JDWalker49511 ай бұрын
Also who or want do you think will be the final villain I think it will be The Destroyer
@JDWalker49511 ай бұрын
@@JDWalker495 I just thing her, Brock the talking Tediore gun, Lou13 and the badass superfan were the kinda felt like Borderlands characters.
@michaelknox371511 ай бұрын
@@michaelknox3715 once again, agreed for everyone but Fran To me she was the most annoying, but also she has no place in a war, she survive as long as she did “in most playthroughs” cause the tediore soldiers were idiots.
@JDWalker49511 ай бұрын
@@JDWalker495 but the destroyer has already been in 2 games. It's got to be something new. Maybe the timekeeper?
@elishuster594311 ай бұрын
I demand a Pre-Sequel 2 that tells the fall of Sanctuary 2
@bandigustin103811 ай бұрын
that should have been a DLC for the pre-sequel
@fulltimeslackerii822911 ай бұрын
I so wonder what happened to Sanctuary 2 although I'm not sure they'd use the pre sequel in the name because the first game got such a bad rap
@elishuster594311 ай бұрын
@@elishuster5943 it was fun but the grinder kill it for me, why farm when i can just dupe all my gear in there
@borislovothered812411 ай бұрын
We don't talk about Sanctuary 2
@Uragan0082911 ай бұрын
@@Uragan00829 we must tho because it would fill plot holes
@bandigustin103810 ай бұрын
borderlands 4 needs to be the avengers of the fracnchise, combining every protagonists and antagonists, and mostly include the lore of B3 dlc's, return of Rosa and Jakobs secret, return of Timothy, and a real inclusion of Sal and Axton
@pedrolitotequila243411 ай бұрын
Could you imagine rose (from bounty of blood) captain Scarlett (from bl2 ) teaming up ?
@readingfreak880810 ай бұрын
"Jakobs secret" What are you referring to?
@rockzyk129110 ай бұрын
Oh yeah because the marvel movies aren't just money printing machines that they've milked 'till the teat ran dry... oh wait... Randy...
@SweetAHE10 ай бұрын
@@rockzyk1291 it s litteraly the bounty of blood climax, there is a long dialog in an slow elevator and we discover when we get down that the company of gehenna is Jakobs, and it s surprising because we thought jakobs were nice rednecks with a CEO that married hammerlock
@pedrolitotequila243410 ай бұрын
The War wasnt completely dropped. Only very subtly hidden. The hidden Arenas in 3 that are overseen by a Guardian has him talking about how the VHs are taking over their job and the Guardians are up to something.
@thomasallen997410 ай бұрын
I really like the idea of Jack coming back and working with the other vault hunters to stop a greater threat in borderlands 4.
@BabyPowderedDiaperBoyАй бұрын
It makes sense that Borderlands 3 wasn't when the war happened. To me, "you're going to need all the Vault hunters you can get" sounds very much like "go out to other planets and find people to recruit", which is what happened in Borderlands 3 (assuming "Vault Hunters" here would be more akin to "adventurers" or "mercenaries" rather than the typical Vault Hunters that do the Vault Hunting thing).
@cakewithbeans24511 ай бұрын
With as awesome as it could be to bring back old characters, its best to keep them dead. Cause if you bring everyone back, you remove all stakes from the story. The story still needs to move forward and hopefully answer questions and possibly get the Great War started.
@goufr354011 ай бұрын
They can being bring back just to gameplay, as seen our vault hunter has no interaction with the story since BL3, but for lore, at least ghosts for a few moments idk
@henrydrago10 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. If they did a full revive. Maybe it has consequences were it can only happen once or something. It is Gearboxes universe. They can set the rules on what reviving people does in terms of consequences or if it will be able to revive a second time.
@aaronh67810 ай бұрын
Knowing Ava probably is our leader that bossing us around. Ain't too excited for BL4. But will still having fun for their gameplay regardless
@dhaniindra65310 ай бұрын
The essential question arose is... how are they going to make an interesting story after what happened on the 3 and NTFTB??? It would be a total miracle, the gameplay will be huge it's obvious but the story scares me
@hoytkeyler199711 ай бұрын
Ntftb??
@StoryTeller-John10 ай бұрын
@@StoryTeller-Johnnew tales from the borderlands, the last one
@hoytkeyler199710 ай бұрын
@@hoytkeyler1997 👍
@StoryTeller-John10 ай бұрын
I have no faith after NTFTB, they have no respect anymore for the IP and have proven time and time again even with the BL3 DLC's that the direction they are taking is honestly fucking abysmal lol
@zweiigorgon898010 ай бұрын
@@zweiigorgon8980 We can only hope they stick the landing 😭
@ack795610 ай бұрын
Completely off topic from this video: Red vs. Blue: Restoration
@pikachuspartan18689 ай бұрын
Keep up these videos love watching them
@Atlas_and_reaper11 ай бұрын
One thing that confused me about the vault monster is that if they were created due to the vault itself why the inconsistent creature that were formed. One thing i have notice though was the fact they were tied to what was in the vault itself. An example would be the ravenger a destructive creature that was houses in the same vault as the eridian resonater which was used to destroy the eridian chunk. Or the grave ward that once killed became the monster essentially turning into artifact to power the creature just like how we find the ability to equip artifact in the vault. One other thing is the fact monster that look like they were created such as the warrior or the sentinal helds stuff that give knowledge like the ability to see the future or the warrior unlocking the ability to see vault on planet. This may also help understand what was found in the traveler vault.
@kalebdewitt67799 ай бұрын
they’re not gonna follow up on pre-sequel. it’s just gonna be more of the “lilith is awesome”show
@fulltimeslackerii822911 ай бұрын
Nice work Fang. Thanks.
@57boomer4411 ай бұрын
I want to see an Avengers Endgame Portals scene for a climatic battle in BL4. But instead of portals, all the Vault Hunters come flying over a cliff in Catch-A-Ride, with Ellie reigning down hellfire from Sanctuary (the ship). With the Ain't no rest for the wicked song playing. Imagine you're the new gen vault hunter. About to get obliterated by the giant vault monster god-king. And in the far distance, you hear a song playing on a stereo. Brick and mordecai in a car, Roland and lillith in another. Zero, Maya, Ava, krieg, Axton in a bandit technical car. Fl4k riding on a cyclone with an army of skags, jabbers and spiderants in tow. Zane flying in with Moze on her bear. Surprise guest, Handsome Jack comes in clutch with some hyperion bots.
@meta332311 ай бұрын
What about Salvador?
@jeanjasmin626311 ай бұрын
Scooter and Ellie raining hellfire down - if anyone deserves the comeback, it's him
@GeoffC1911 ай бұрын
@@jeanjasmin6263 Well you see, Salvador comes flying in at Mach 3 with 2 badabooms in hand rocket jumping
@marrarilander923911 ай бұрын
@@GeoffC19 Sccoter rebuilt Carinivora and used that 🤣
@meta332311 ай бұрын
@@marrarilander9239 can't forget to give him a couple of DPUH's
@jeanjasmin626310 ай бұрын
The multiverse is coming to borderlands
@noahdean968510 ай бұрын
Would love to see all the current living vault hunters return with new/upgraded specials and skills
@vergilradtke108611 ай бұрын
Nah that would make zero sense
@Slumpedkashi10 ай бұрын
Bruh you do a great job on these videos,enjoy them alot
@anthonymichaels718810 ай бұрын
Borderlands 1 has made it clear the destroyer needs to die. Jack used its eye as a weapon. The twins wanted to use its power to snuff out all stars. Like what is IT able to do alone is a huge thread since the vaults was made to keep it away. I can imagine borderlands 4 is about finally killing the destroyer for good. The twins released its chains so can see it getting out of its vault in borderlands 4
@madsvigan289810 ай бұрын
I always assumed that the "war" was the one against the twins but I really don't want that to be the case
@G0dgrave11 ай бұрын
The devs pretty much confirmed BL3 wasnt the War they were talking about, we're expecting something much much bigger, on a cosmic scale
@D_Quinn10 ай бұрын
@@D_Quinn Im glad man cuz even tho i love BL3 the calypsos were so fucking disappointing I really hope they've got something big planned
@mastergamingdude619110 ай бұрын
I'm just here waiting your breakdown for the Borderlands movie. Really excited to see you take of it.
@fredericobrey62922 ай бұрын
One of my all time dreams for this series, and something that only increases with each release, is the possibility of playing as any of the vault hunters from any game, being cannon or not, I'd just love to see that, improved skills and balance. So the idea of bringing everyone back for something as dangerous as the destroyer actually coming out of Pandora would be awesome, I mean, they already spilled the beans with such power existing in the universe with new tales, may as well go all the way.
@00Mike5511 ай бұрын
After Bl3 and wonderlands, i really hope gearbox learned their lesson. Bl4 has to be perfect
@mkloven1019 ай бұрын
What if the vault monsters are past sirens and that’s why other sirens can take power from them
@ems_wowerz888211 ай бұрын
You mean the...one siren that can do that? That could do that with EVERY living creature?
@noelleholiday6111 ай бұрын
@@noelleholiday61 😭I’m finna replay the games
@ems_wowerz888211 ай бұрын
what if the real vault monsters were the friends we made along the way?
@ariabritton966911 ай бұрын
I was thinking they would expand outside of Pandora and it's galaxy and actually go to the eridians galaxy, we had the watcher warn us in presequel, also while we are transcending into the unknown territory of the eridian planets, we also search for Lilith and her whereabouts. She might of gotten teleported to the eridan galaxy or got stuck in one of the vaults. The Eridians have to be Thanos level villain too. Eridans have been present since BL1, also Zarpadon in TPS mentioned the eridans a bunch and the power they possess. That's my take for the future of borderlands
@bryantedelman970310 ай бұрын
If love to see everyone come back, there are a lot of storylines that are unfinished. I feel Lilith and Roland never fully settled things with each other and id love to see Maya come back and her and kreig get their conclusion. Jack would be nice just not as the main bad guy and scooter I just love him
@supra0_0nova11 ай бұрын
Lilith is inside Elpis, Roland's dead, Maya is technically alive in Krieg's mind, and finally, Jack and Scooter are both dead. I highly doubt they'll bring back long-dead characters. ETA: Forgot that NTFTB was a thing, even though I literally just watched a video about it a few days ago.
@kingimura243011 ай бұрын
Roland's death is one of the best video game deaths I know, I'd *LOATHE* Gearbox if they brought him back to life and just said "nah" to all the stuff that avalanched because of his death.
@ack795610 ай бұрын
So bring every dead character back to life, honestly that's kinda wack and idk if I would like it. Makes it feels like no one can die
@ericblakemore33813 ай бұрын
Okay but what if jack comes back as an ally and takes a bullet for Roland in a redemption arc
@davidpiche93219 ай бұрын
Fighting alongside characters that died would be really cool, as long as the way they come back makes sense and doesnt discredit their death~ could even be in a “they will die afterwards” way hmmm
@IlunaNeko11 ай бұрын
One thing I want to know, is the Destroyer confirmed dead (it’s immortal), cause if not it’s likely to be the final villain. Now that might seem redundant since it was technically the final bass of both 1 and 3, but it was never the focal point of the story, never the ‘main’ villain that interacts with since the start of the story. The lore builds it up as this ever growing threat that evolves as it eats and is functionally immortal. Yet despite growing stronger and smarter after supposedly consuming the eridians it never shows sentience. I see the final war basically be a halo flood like scenario, where the Destroyer takes FULL center stage as it threat to consume everything in the universe, it may use use tech from the eridians or even the eridians themselves (zombies or something) to combat the player. This would be a threat requiring the help of EVERY vault hunter and warranting the use of a godlike item like anatheium gem, to kill completely. Hell it could probably banter throughout the game with the player in classic BL fashion since it’s meant to grow smarter as well. And the reason why the Seer might’ve tried to stop us is because the destroyer is meant to the natural end of the universe, becoming another big bang after it’s consumed everything and starting the process over. (A Ragnarock)
@JDWalker49511 ай бұрын
in my opinion i think the destroyer is dead due to the fact that tyreen fused with it, a mortal and immortal fusion would weaken their structure and make them killable
@jaydantastic352911 ай бұрын
I thought that the destroyer did die permanently because it fused itself with something living (tyreen)
@elishuster594311 ай бұрын
"The Watcher talking about how they need all the vaunt hunters they can get." The plot of the Borderlands Arena of Badassery board game is Mister Torgue cloning vaunt hunters from BL1 to BL3 plus 4 new ones for his own amusement, for a total of 24 vault hunters. What if...that's the Watcher's War and the Watcher is just really dramatic about it? :P
@tempanon867211 ай бұрын
I wish I had your copium ngl The fact that there are people still thinking that borderlands writers can pull off any satisfactory story after 3 lmao
@hibanamain570911 ай бұрын
Outside of the Eridian guardian story, i'd like to see more storytelling for the Vault Hunter that we all have gotten attached to especially the BL 3 ones.
@RickySama24010 ай бұрын
I do remember in borderlands three There were cliffs you could scan and gave you history lessons. One of them was about a 7th siren.
@lordnikon41200210 ай бұрын
I really disappointed that bl 3 is disconnected from previous bl title story(lack of mention of stuff or mystery stuff like the seraph) while even pre sequel had better story connection... They dont need to bring back jack or make jack like villain on next title... I mean they completely forget about the seraph.. yeah you can argue seraph is just dlc economy stuff from bl2... But it has good expansion potential for main story of who we are at war with? The seraph will be good candidate... Also if seraph is only just afterthought why do they need to went as far to add seraph vendor unique dialogue that hinted that we have to stop them (the seraph)... Its sad that they forget about it... Seraph could be made to be something that even eridian fear...
@Mirfan-wt4sp11 ай бұрын
As an actual mainline game the crystal probably isn't a good fit but as dlc it could be cool to be used as an excuse to bring back previously fought bosses but in a smaller more contained environment
@HandmadeGoose9710 ай бұрын
I think a cool theory is this Gem revives the leaders of different factions who have died. Zarpadon from the pre sequel, Handsome Jack, the calipso twins, katagawa. We could get this massive war with those 4 revived that's 4 huge factions who could oppose the vault hunters and would have beef with them. Cause then you'd have Bandits, Hyperion, Dahl and Malawan teaming up against the vault hunters.
@byronpugh834810 ай бұрын
Captain Scarlet is a loose end still needs to be tied up. Also it would be pretty insane if Aslan De Vega is still alive.
@spouwnerring11 ай бұрын
I would love a jack and claptrap mission where those two are fighting to be the leader off the mission 😂😂
@carpenters90347 ай бұрын
I kinda want them to expand on the Eridium cartels that the seasonal event was about, there's potential for really cool stuff there
@Tycholarfero8 ай бұрын
jack could come back with the gem as; one of the reasons for him being evil was the death of his wife which the gem has the power to return to him under the deal of assistant. this would also if done right give us chance to see how jack would change or if he would change if given a complete second chance. note (in my opinion being AI jack isn't a second chance as an AI ghost detach from it all and possibly limited in action as his data is base on crazy jack I'm willing to text/say that jack may act differently than it.)
@dragonhunterhumphrey92347 ай бұрын
id love to see more done with the bounty of blood dlc/the history of jakobs, just because of how good the environment of the dlc was.
@JGioia1210 ай бұрын
I just want the original Tales from the Borderlands crew back together again, after the car crash that was New Tales, it made me miss their story even more.
@rileytaylor66227 ай бұрын
I really surprised that no one talks about the 7th siren, when borderlands lore originally was only 6 sirens can exist at the same time. Yet in borderlands 3 there was a echo log that mentions the 7th siren and we must not find the 7th
@jakesmithchips667410 ай бұрын
imagine being able to play as all 16 vault hunters would be really cool. or maybe do it like ttwl and we become a vault hunter with varying skills
@outlawz3818 күн бұрын
I think it would be cool if Lilith got transported to a planet made of eridium and gets addicted to it and becomes a crazy powerful siren who's gone crazy from the addiction
@josephsuarez76298 ай бұрын
You can't imagine how hyped I would be for such an outcome, fighting alongside with Jack and everybody else that has died, in a great war that has something to do with kind of mysterious forces would be so so awesome! I can't wait for the next Borderlands game, hopefully it's going to be as great or even greater as Borderlands 2 was as the devs seem to be taking their time for the next one.
@FABESTAH11 ай бұрын
Jack going to cosplay as The Starchild in his see thru Tales from the Borderlands skin
@russellromig8969Ай бұрын
Thanks for the spoliers warnings
@Rafael-oq9vu10 ай бұрын
12:29 with that radiation your speaking of could be the eridium that she used back in borderlands 2 and in borderlands 3 to basically power up. similar to a drug in the borderlands wise and is known to not be good for them.
@spikers666910 ай бұрын
If that is what your saying maybe there others that are ending up like this
@mrxnacho79259 ай бұрын
@mrxnacho7925 possible. But does seem like a drug type thing for them because using it makes them eventually die if I remember right from the games
@spikers66699 ай бұрын
I can think about a few more unfinished storylines there is the huge army of loaderbots at the handsome jackpot under the controll of moxxi, there is the think with the new leader of hyperion , maybe it is athena because it can explain why she is at the leader meeting from tediore and her gimmik was always a shield like the shieldfunction from hyperion weaponary sins borderlands 3 and in tales form the borderlands she was corupted by an dark magicy think. So there is a lot of open plots to continue.
@polaktaris641728 күн бұрын
The gem "you random npc number 69 from borderlands 2 you will go to back to the land of the living and fix things" lol
@death796011 ай бұрын
Probably the could bring back Steele to since her siren powers still be a mystery
@emperorpurpz290110 ай бұрын
Since Steele died, my guess is that her powers have been passed on to the next playable siren.
@LazyboneBandit10 ай бұрын
Jack being the new Frieza would be awesome. BORDERLANDS 4 RESSURECTION OF J
@marcoscazaqui789910 ай бұрын
Something Ive wondered about Lilith and her powers post Vault opening and with Eridium returning to Pandora is that in 2 there is a bit of timey wimey ness at work with her. We traverse like 2 maps spanning miles and fighting tons of foes to get to the Highlands where Floating Sanctuary reappears but Lilith teleported away again at least an hour ago and is just now showing up on our screens. Sure you could explain that its a cool visual and they just wanted to see it again but it does seem like her Firehawk powers in general dont really adhere to the laws of time and space especially when pushed to their limits. So Lilith could just show up somewhere in the universe years from now and feel like she just left which could be interesting as we again were warned "Not to find the 7th" and currently until Lilith reconsitiutes in the main timeline there is only 6(or 5 but Leech presumably is on its way to someone) sirens which falls in line with the rules of the universe meaning Lilith's return could be the inciting incident that kicks off 4s storyline especially if that story finally IS what The Watcher warned about
@kacektv94059 ай бұрын
I hope Ava is the first casualty, just so the powers she robbed Maya of can be given to literally fucking anybody else
@tennesseewastelander793111 ай бұрын
Imagine being able to play as one of the many vault hunters in 4 n all their classes gets a massive upgrade
@forgedpanda10 ай бұрын
Mmm this is true b4 might be better than b3 but we need more storyline that's what we might get mmm I hope they make b4 I think
@jacobdavis490511 ай бұрын
Tales from the borderlands directly set up for Borderlands 3, it only makes sense New tales from the borderlands would do the same. Did you see they cliff hanger they set up with timm-e? I believe he will have a vital role in the story for the next mainline borderlands game.
@MrClown212110 ай бұрын
jack has done his story arc he does not need to come back and neither should he they need to make a new villain which i think with the trend of zainy unserious characters we could use someone who is 1: a serious threat 2: has goals beyond just power alone 3: isnt in constant contact with the characters preferably in way that the players and characters are seaching for him/her/they after discovering something they did in history or via unexplained phenomena and 4: preferably choosing weather or not the player was actually involved in the cutscenes. a serious villain would be a great way to change the image of ava which was destroyed in 3 when her arc really could have been good if maya's death was treated with any smidgeon of tact and probably would do a lot to show her (supposed) ability to lead or at least ability to learn. gameplay needs a overhaul but thats for a different video.
@matthewmcdonald18126 ай бұрын
I always wondered if the Vault monsters weren't all old sirens that were corrupted at some point. Maybe there was more at some point but due to corruption only the 6 remain that we know about
@masterrhyno3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it.
@cashstore111 ай бұрын
I think that if they do resurrect a ton of dead characters it's going to be limited in some way (like maybe the shard can only bring back people whom it itself has killed with ease and that the further back someone died the harder it is to not only bring them back but keep them back (making it so we might have to spend the entire game charging up the crystal for each resurrection and then in the final battle the crystal could be shattered severing the line that's resurrecting them putting them on a time limit and I suspect that the time keeper will have some young xehanort type limitation where characters can't be brought back only taken from a moment before they're death and at the end of the battle they are forced to return whence they came like imagine Roland gets brought back for the final battle and Lilith has to go through him dying again effectively I also suspect that anything the time keeper can do requires an equal trade like to bring someone who died ten years ago back the vault hunter must sacrifice ten years of there future as cost to pull it off Honestly I feel like the best possible way this can go is we have to locate the time keeper and shard but even with there combined powers all the characters resurrected can't permanently come back or if they can it will be at great personal cost (albeit I could see the lodge potentially coming in clutch or Tanis and fixing the problem (like imagine if those resurrected through the time keeper are temporally unwinding but the lodge can halt that while Tanis figures out a more permanent solution and the shard whilst resurrecting there body limits there lifespan or something
@sebay465411 ай бұрын
Great ideas
@lavellelee573410 ай бұрын
I think that the revive plot could work but it would need some restrictions like bringing people back to fight the war and then going back to rest. Like for example it could have been an eridian backup plan if things went really bad, but they probably couldnt use for some reason.
@lukameklav5542 ай бұрын
Every question around Jack coming back was sorta like, “no there’s no way, oh wait if EVERYONE is back”
@CalderaWolf10 ай бұрын
Good luck on the house hunt
@Conquistador49511 ай бұрын
I think we might get past heros and villans back to face something bigger than the destroyer and this time it will break the 6 siren rule to even have a chance. Mancubis might know more than we are let on to like how to beat the destroyer or what is on the other side of it’s prison cell and we never saw Steel’s siren power in the first one so maybe we get to play as her in 4 or maybe DLC. Also I think the vault monsters are failed warrior projects and we could find a way to talk to them and get them to join us like a mass effect 3 final battle. Whenever we hear something about 4 it should make us happy that we are getting news and to think about what we will be shooting at next.
@BJI82a8 ай бұрын
I have a really good feeling that we might see something relating to Borderlands 4 at the Summer Game Fest, since Gearbox is showing up there, but still. As for the storyline, I think that we might get the Watcher’s War and the fate of Lilith in the fourth game, I don’t know anything about that green stone in the new tales of borderlands game, I see it as a eyesore, if they resurrect characters, they have to choose carefully on who to bring back and make it work. 🤨🤔🤔🤔
@katiemartin48711 ай бұрын
I'm grasping for straws here but the war timeline could be good. Though Troy and Tyreen seemingly had different powers. With them being conjoined twins the leech siren abilities could've been divided. Seeing how Tyreen "reunited" those abilities and merged with the destroyer. The destroyer might now have the knowledge and power to manifest it's self into the Borderlands universe. It's power not limited by form. It might also have the ability to bless other beings, that being the army this war is fought against.
@thewatcher117519 күн бұрын
jack says that only six sirens can exist without the universe imploding we know currently of three after troy tyrene and lillith exited the game. one of the dialogues from the queen i think says beware the seventh. perhaps what happened to lillith is that she got put out of the universe? whcih would allow the new sirens to get the numbers up to 6 while letting a 7th exist. perhaps the beware of the 7 message is meant to forewarn that lillith coming back would be catastrophic.
@t-hamos949810 ай бұрын
Everything past the second game doesn't even have the spirit
@Iamnothereijustsee4 ай бұрын
I believe Jack from the First Tales game I would like to think is in Borderlands 3. Rhys gives his Jack Eye to Blake and Hyperion creates the Jackhammer.
@oblivexx10 ай бұрын
the fact that that artifact exists means that not only jack could come back but his wife and his daughter angel. Would getting angel and his wife back be enough to call it quits idk. Though could have a great double cross either at the end or during the lead up to the climatic fight.
@gamersbydefault7634 ай бұрын
Hey buddy, loved the Neir vid, any chance you could do a Complete, Unabdridged Timeline for the Diablo games?
@Ancestralsword810 ай бұрын
keep posting long videos i love them for when I am board their interesting very
@progaming-eh9xy10 ай бұрын
What about Captain Scarlet from the pirate dlc? She's still around
@elishuster594311 ай бұрын
(I wrote a lot. Updated the first paragraph to be a little less condesending.) My personal experience with Borderlands. In 2015 My brother and Father introduced me to Borderlands 2 once I was old enough in the hopes of getting me into FPS games. I didnt get into the game until 2018 and my first Char was Salvador. For the next month i did about 2 entire playthroughs and was playing it until Bl3 came out. We were all hyped and would often jam the Trailer music to sing along and jam. To cut a long story short, Borderlands 3 broke our hearts, My brother and Father who got me into this franchise, now will probably never play another title, becuase playing 3 leaves you with a feeling of confusion, depression and anger. It really made me look back at what made me like the older titles: Borderlands 2 is fun to play becuase the gameplay in that game is Easy to learn, hard to master, (If you play the game the intended way). Every environment in that game is so highly detailed and memorable, the music you can jam along to and it adds detail to what environment you're in. Southern Shelf makes you feel super cold and desolate, Caustic Caverns makes you feel underground and gloomy, Opportunity makes you feel like your somewhere futuristic, you get the idea . Every gun manufactuer does different things, the Story is 10/10, unique enemy dialogue. Borderlands 2 is on a whole other plain of existance when it comes to immersion and fun. In 2021 I played the Pre-sequel becuase that was reccomended to me a lot. And I loved it, it was peak borderlands. Exploring somewhat linear areas, working with Hyperion when you kicked their asses in 2, the Low-low grav, the music. The story is pretty good, not great but good. The vault hunters were all really well designed, Nisha, Wilhelm, Athena, Fragtrap, Name that rhymes with "Jimothy" and Aurelia. You guys will have your complaints about this game, I will probably agree with them! But this game set in space around one of the best gaming villains in history, tickles me a LITTLE bit more than 2 does. Were almost 3 years in and I am still in the honeymoon phase of this game, so I am going to be biased. I am sorry. With Borderlands 3, I am not traveling across giant mounds of trash in Pandora, mowing down mindless bugs, psychos and marauders for fun and hopefully good drops... I have to sit through unskippable cutscenes, boring pre-sequel-tier dialogue that gets worse after the 4th time you hear it. A lot of guns are useless and just look flashy and dont often function as good weapons, annointed enemies being scuffed badass 'Eternals' from Vorago Solitude. Annointed weapons, Mayhem mode not being properly balanced becuase of Artificial Scaling Mechanics. Customizing your character is now filled with Zoomer-normie skins that break immersion. The Vault bosses were, again, worse than the Pre-sequel. The gameplay is hard to learn, hard to REMEMBER, and the game is DESIGNED around those mechanics. Eden 6 is one of the best parts of 3, and the dialogue fight between Balex and GenVIV was good, but I STILL prefer Bosun and Skipper with the Drakensburg. The level of fustration I have with this game is unrealistic. I cannot play this game becuase of this wall of text. With Borderlands 4, what can they do? All possible storylines sound very mediocre when compared to 3 2 and TPS. New Tales indirectly confirmed that they continue to use the abysmal art style and story. The gameplay is going to be more heavy-handed, so what do i have to look forward to in this franchise as a casual player? I havnt completely abandoned all hope like some have, I still want a good Borderlands game. But I am not rushing to buy it. Thanks for uhm...reading my rant, I only ever write comments this long and detailed about Borderlands.
@Vanished58410 ай бұрын
Thanks !
@crashbandicoot220610 ай бұрын
I think the warpath bl4 could take would be really interesting. the plot in my head would be something like how the original eridians woke up from some sort of hybernation and saw how people have been opening their vaults so they decided to eradicate humans as a result. All pervious valulthunters including a new line of badasses would have to work together to fight for their existance. It would be super easy to rope the timekeeper, seventh siren, and all other loose plot threds into this overarching narrative that way. The crystal dude from new tales could bring back characters like Maya, Scooter and Roland. Another idea i had was that the seventh siren Nyriad warned about could be an eridian herself as a sort of prototype and/or Nyriad was that siren and was hybernating with the rest of her species. The corporations could (try to) settle their differences to band together and assist the vault hunters. Ava could die before the restoration of maya which would also be great.
@TackyKnacky6 ай бұрын
4 years later, and it still baffles me that they didn’t follow up on the Watcher and their “war.” Talk about a wasted plot.
@steelungol437311 ай бұрын
@EruptionFang I have now devoured all of your Borderlands lore content and still miss Ech Logs from Part 1+2+TPS. Can you still do it too?
@malicious_joy28 күн бұрын
I personally would love to see all these ideas expanded upon. A war where “everyone is needed”, would be a great set up to flesh out these characters and stories in the BL world. Some other things; What is up with a 7th Siren? I want Mech Gortys back for a war! BL 4 will be developing on Unreal Engine 5 the game could be incredible and future installments can be even crazier!
@_yaboi_O110 ай бұрын
It would be cool to play as all the characters from every borderlands game along with new ones.
@thesketchartist632810 ай бұрын
it is like dr who in the Lodge Borderlands 3 DLC
@seansherrod473911 ай бұрын
"Beware the fury of a patient man." Borderlands is so profound ❤
@Healedsqeesh10 ай бұрын
The watcher actually is mentioned in the gaurdian takedown
@BicycleThief250611 ай бұрын
i feel like the only direction for borderlands to go without getting dry and old would be to go the destiny route
@goopuhhh45410 ай бұрын
I only just noticed, but Handsome jack's right hand? it has a sort of... metal connector to his arm... and it's the sam hand Timothy cuts off in BL3 so you can win the dlc. Is this just because of the "winning" hand that JAck will have also had in addition to all his decoys so there were no differences between them? good chance this is common knowledge at this point but I only just noticed it here
@klingon40110 ай бұрын
I'd like a new VH. Somewhere along the lines of Fl4k and Gaige but using everyone's favourite dancing bot as the companion. Maybe with the skill that Fl4k and i can't remember which skill tree it was but your companion used whatever gun you had.
@gojirabroderick649110 ай бұрын
Idc what happens. But if either jakobs or hammerlock die, ima be real hurt
I don’t want Jack back lol. His ending in Tales was so good and I don’t want current gearbox to sully it.
His wife and kid being back would most likely change him after all. Assuming we don't get him back, from the last time we see him alive
@@kodi1722 I don’t want him to change. That’s just not Jack lol
With all that cancel culture and shit, bringing back jack will probably not be good
@@lazlotakahashi4150 technically it was Jack, but their accident shaped him into what he’s most recognized as Although I agree, we don’t need him back, it would be too redundant with Timothy and Rhys, and I HIGHLY doubt they would they him back after all teh work it took to take him out
@@sasuto4572 shut up. lmao.
For me, the storyline I want more about is the seventh siren, and why Nyriad warns about seeking her out.
Didn't Nyriad say that finding the 7th would be the end of everything?
@@dwarfdigger135 It definitely wasn't described favourably!
After NTFTB maybe that’s what we need 😭
@Hecker Bonker During 2 Tyreen would already have her powers, no?
@@heckerbonker3377 jack says 6 and he knows 3. Angel, lilith, and maya. You could say amara was one at the time so there is still 2 he didnt know and a 7th being 3. I feel like tyreen was maybe born a siren since she was conceived in the vault. How can we say she just wasnt one of the 2 he didnt know??
It almost feels like the crystal will just be one big Undo button to fix everything, if it does carry over, and that pretty much kills all the stakes. Maya's death didn't go over well, hey look, we can bring her back! New villains aren't working out, let's bring back Jack! We need a true leader to tackle the Big Bad, let's trash everything we had Lilith go through and our own failed effort at making Ava relevant and bring back Roland! If death is no longer a true danger, the story has no weight to it.
@T.K. Baha, whose entertainment value only goes up after being brought back from the dead
Even if they do end up somehow going with that route of bringing people back from dead, I have very little confidence in the current writing team to juggle with that many characters. Said writers already showed how inept they were with BL3, by either sending characters elsewhere off screen or straight up killing them off on screen. And also, Watcher: "There's a great war coming, you need all the help." Writers: "Let's have them go separate ways!"
Just call it a parallel universe and boom. Problem solved. Dc and marvel have been making billions off that alone.
Stories don't need dead to carry weight. It is a fallacy to think so.
@@jrpgnation6375I agree , a good story is a good story
I've still wondered about that "war" and SO expect it to be the finale
I really hope to see all the previous vault hunters return, the ones that are still alive mind you, and band together for whatever the next challenge for Pandora is. Give them all updated and reworked skill trees to make each vault hunter distinct. I still want new vault hunters but they aren't my main concern. Also hopefully some of the mechanics from wonderlands come over the the main series, like the melee improvements and spell like grenades being the most fun new additions.
the only Vault Hunter, which was missing in Borderlands 3 is Athena. Everybody else is dead or was present in one way or another, even if as a cameo (Salvador and Axton I am talking about you).
I would love to see everyone who died back. There's no real "Catch a Ride" without Scooter, and I would love to see Nisha's ass in this new engine. Plus, we could also undo the oopsie of Maya's death in BL3 in a swift, kind of "Hey, I'm sorry!" way.
I want for bl4 to play every vault hunter from all games
Being Sal again would be fun.
With Wonderland bringing back Zero would be wise cause we got swords now, just tweak some powers and bam, we got intro Zero bl2 playable
I'm sure a bunch of people have brought it up, but in kriegs mind you can talk to Maya afterwards and she brings up the 6 sirens but says they aren't always the same and something different is coming. I can't wait to see were the story goes.
BOYS!! New Eruption Fang BL video dropped!!
This would be a moment you wish Roland is still around, they will need all the leadership they will need
Right? I also feel they did Lilith dirty in 3, she had more character development in the Commander Lilith DLC for 2 than she did in BL3.
Absolutely only an complete maniac without a brain would leave the control over the crimson raiders in the hands a child that has shown no leadership qualifications or experience in leading people .
Who needs Roland when we have the amazing Ava to lead us..........😂
@@TheCrossed23made no sense why Tannis wasnt given the role. Hell even Liz , Hammerlock , Markus , Marius or friggn Claptrap wouldve made more sense!!
@@TheCrossed23 Damn beat me to it, Pouting face with mad side glance your way I'd kick and scream laying on ground but you can't see that LOL🤣🤣
The watcher is mentioned by the guardians in the proving ground trials and the guardian takedown
A Borderlands game where you can play as all the previous vault hunters would be insane. The question is how the story would be, considering that the idea of being playable means they can't be an npc? Maybe different story paths for certain parts (Which can be played with any vault hunter in TVHM)? There's also all the dead vault hunters.
Great idea
ok but hear me out: MR TORGUE VAULT HUNTER??? *AGGRESSIVE AIR GUITAR NOISES*
It has to build up slowly like MCU, probably won't be till Borderlands 7
Nah. Lilith, Roland, Maya, Wilhelm, and Aurelia are all dead. It would make no sense
Lilith isnt dead and Wilhelm, and Aurelia are evil and dont care about the war
All very valid points and I do hope that especially the war comes into play in 4. But there is one more thing. Nyriad mentioned a 7th Siren. That MUST be a big plot point of Borderlands 4
What if Nyriad is the 7th Syren
@@ASirensFlame Cant. She is the Leech Siren one of the six we know
@@FloundBlacky Wasn't Tyreen the leech siren? Lillith phasewalk Ava phaselock Tennis Phase tech Amara PhaseArms
@@ASirensFlame Nyriad was the leech Siren THOUSANDS of years ago. She imprisoned herself in the vault that Typhon and his wife found and freed her powers. Thats why when Tyreen and Troy were born they became the new leech Siren
Maybe the weird eridian creature that announced the war is a siren, it was never stated only human could be sirens
My wishlist for Borderlands 4: The War the Watcher warned us about NEEDS TO HAPPEN!! Ava working with the remaining Bl2 vault hunters to honor Maya's memory and probably going out like a hero. Rhys and Atlas teaming up with the crimson raiders with those ships seen in New Tales from the Borderlands. The only New Tales characters that should be seen are Lou13 and Fran. (Octavio needs to die) No time travel at all Finding Lilith. Space combat Eridian antagonist and last but not least MORE GUNS!!
Mostly agree, but why does Fran need to be back?
Also who or want do you think will be the final villain I think it will be The Destroyer
@@JDWalker495 I just thing her, Brock the talking Tediore gun, Lou13 and the badass superfan were the kinda felt like Borderlands characters.
@@michaelknox3715 once again, agreed for everyone but Fran To me she was the most annoying, but also she has no place in a war, she survive as long as she did “in most playthroughs” cause the tediore soldiers were idiots.
@@JDWalker495 but the destroyer has already been in 2 games. It's got to be something new. Maybe the timekeeper?
I demand a Pre-Sequel 2 that tells the fall of Sanctuary 2
that should have been a DLC for the pre-sequel
I so wonder what happened to Sanctuary 2 although I'm not sure they'd use the pre sequel in the name because the first game got such a bad rap
@@elishuster5943 it was fun but the grinder kill it for me, why farm when i can just dupe all my gear in there
We don't talk about Sanctuary 2
@@Uragan00829 we must tho because it would fill plot holes
borderlands 4 needs to be the avengers of the fracnchise, combining every protagonists and antagonists, and mostly include the lore of B3 dlc's, return of Rosa and Jakobs secret, return of Timothy, and a real inclusion of Sal and Axton
Could you imagine rose (from bounty of blood) captain Scarlett (from bl2 ) teaming up ?
"Jakobs secret" What are you referring to?
Oh yeah because the marvel movies aren't just money printing machines that they've milked 'till the teat ran dry... oh wait... Randy...
@@rockzyk1291 it s litteraly the bounty of blood climax, there is a long dialog in an slow elevator and we discover when we get down that the company of gehenna is Jakobs, and it s surprising because we thought jakobs were nice rednecks with a CEO that married hammerlock
The War wasnt completely dropped. Only very subtly hidden. The hidden Arenas in 3 that are overseen by a Guardian has him talking about how the VHs are taking over their job and the Guardians are up to something.
I really like the idea of Jack coming back and working with the other vault hunters to stop a greater threat in borderlands 4.
It makes sense that Borderlands 3 wasn't when the war happened. To me, "you're going to need all the Vault hunters you can get" sounds very much like "go out to other planets and find people to recruit", which is what happened in Borderlands 3 (assuming "Vault Hunters" here would be more akin to "adventurers" or "mercenaries" rather than the typical Vault Hunters that do the Vault Hunting thing).
With as awesome as it could be to bring back old characters, its best to keep them dead. Cause if you bring everyone back, you remove all stakes from the story. The story still needs to move forward and hopefully answer questions and possibly get the Great War started.
They can being bring back just to gameplay, as seen our vault hunter has no interaction with the story since BL3, but for lore, at least ghosts for a few moments idk
Not necessarily. If they did a full revive. Maybe it has consequences were it can only happen once or something. It is Gearboxes universe. They can set the rules on what reviving people does in terms of consequences or if it will be able to revive a second time.
Knowing Ava probably is our leader that bossing us around. Ain't too excited for BL4. But will still having fun for their gameplay regardless
The essential question arose is... how are they going to make an interesting story after what happened on the 3 and NTFTB??? It would be a total miracle, the gameplay will be huge it's obvious but the story scares me
Ntftb??
@@StoryTeller-Johnnew tales from the borderlands, the last one
@@hoytkeyler1997 👍
I have no faith after NTFTB, they have no respect anymore for the IP and have proven time and time again even with the BL3 DLC's that the direction they are taking is honestly fucking abysmal lol
@@zweiigorgon8980 We can only hope they stick the landing 😭
Completely off topic from this video: Red vs. Blue: Restoration
Keep up these videos love watching them
One thing that confused me about the vault monster is that if they were created due to the vault itself why the inconsistent creature that were formed. One thing i have notice though was the fact they were tied to what was in the vault itself. An example would be the ravenger a destructive creature that was houses in the same vault as the eridian resonater which was used to destroy the eridian chunk. Or the grave ward that once killed became the monster essentially turning into artifact to power the creature just like how we find the ability to equip artifact in the vault. One other thing is the fact monster that look like they were created such as the warrior or the sentinal helds stuff that give knowledge like the ability to see the future or the warrior unlocking the ability to see vault on planet. This may also help understand what was found in the traveler vault.
they’re not gonna follow up on pre-sequel. it’s just gonna be more of the “lilith is awesome”show
Nice work Fang. Thanks.
I want to see an Avengers Endgame Portals scene for a climatic battle in BL4. But instead of portals, all the Vault Hunters come flying over a cliff in Catch-A-Ride, with Ellie reigning down hellfire from Sanctuary (the ship). With the Ain't no rest for the wicked song playing. Imagine you're the new gen vault hunter. About to get obliterated by the giant vault monster god-king. And in the far distance, you hear a song playing on a stereo. Brick and mordecai in a car, Roland and lillith in another. Zero, Maya, Ava, krieg, Axton in a bandit technical car. Fl4k riding on a cyclone with an army of skags, jabbers and spiderants in tow. Zane flying in with Moze on her bear. Surprise guest, Handsome Jack comes in clutch with some hyperion bots.
What about Salvador?
Scooter and Ellie raining hellfire down - if anyone deserves the comeback, it's him
@@jeanjasmin6263 Well you see, Salvador comes flying in at Mach 3 with 2 badabooms in hand rocket jumping
@@GeoffC19 Sccoter rebuilt Carinivora and used that 🤣
@@marrarilander9239 can't forget to give him a couple of DPUH's
The multiverse is coming to borderlands
Would love to see all the current living vault hunters return with new/upgraded specials and skills
Nah that would make zero sense
Bruh you do a great job on these videos,enjoy them alot
Borderlands 1 has made it clear the destroyer needs to die. Jack used its eye as a weapon. The twins wanted to use its power to snuff out all stars. Like what is IT able to do alone is a huge thread since the vaults was made to keep it away. I can imagine borderlands 4 is about finally killing the destroyer for good. The twins released its chains so can see it getting out of its vault in borderlands 4
I always assumed that the "war" was the one against the twins but I really don't want that to be the case
The devs pretty much confirmed BL3 wasnt the War they were talking about, we're expecting something much much bigger, on a cosmic scale
@@D_Quinn Im glad man cuz even tho i love BL3 the calypsos were so fucking disappointing I really hope they've got something big planned
I'm just here waiting your breakdown for the Borderlands movie. Really excited to see you take of it.
One of my all time dreams for this series, and something that only increases with each release, is the possibility of playing as any of the vault hunters from any game, being cannon or not, I'd just love to see that, improved skills and balance. So the idea of bringing everyone back for something as dangerous as the destroyer actually coming out of Pandora would be awesome, I mean, they already spilled the beans with such power existing in the universe with new tales, may as well go all the way.
After Bl3 and wonderlands, i really hope gearbox learned their lesson. Bl4 has to be perfect
What if the vault monsters are past sirens and that’s why other sirens can take power from them
You mean the...one siren that can do that? That could do that with EVERY living creature?
@@noelleholiday61 😭I’m finna replay the games
what if the real vault monsters were the friends we made along the way?
I was thinking they would expand outside of Pandora and it's galaxy and actually go to the eridians galaxy, we had the watcher warn us in presequel, also while we are transcending into the unknown territory of the eridian planets, we also search for Lilith and her whereabouts. She might of gotten teleported to the eridan galaxy or got stuck in one of the vaults. The Eridians have to be Thanos level villain too. Eridans have been present since BL1, also Zarpadon in TPS mentioned the eridans a bunch and the power they possess. That's my take for the future of borderlands
If love to see everyone come back, there are a lot of storylines that are unfinished. I feel Lilith and Roland never fully settled things with each other and id love to see Maya come back and her and kreig get their conclusion. Jack would be nice just not as the main bad guy and scooter I just love him
Lilith is inside Elpis, Roland's dead, Maya is technically alive in Krieg's mind, and finally, Jack and Scooter are both dead. I highly doubt they'll bring back long-dead characters. ETA: Forgot that NTFTB was a thing, even though I literally just watched a video about it a few days ago.
Roland's death is one of the best video game deaths I know, I'd *LOATHE* Gearbox if they brought him back to life and just said "nah" to all the stuff that avalanched because of his death.
So bring every dead character back to life, honestly that's kinda wack and idk if I would like it. Makes it feels like no one can die
Okay but what if jack comes back as an ally and takes a bullet for Roland in a redemption arc
Fighting alongside characters that died would be really cool, as long as the way they come back makes sense and doesnt discredit their death~ could even be in a “they will die afterwards” way hmmm
One thing I want to know, is the Destroyer confirmed dead (it’s immortal), cause if not it’s likely to be the final villain. Now that might seem redundant since it was technically the final bass of both 1 and 3, but it was never the focal point of the story, never the ‘main’ villain that interacts with since the start of the story. The lore builds it up as this ever growing threat that evolves as it eats and is functionally immortal. Yet despite growing stronger and smarter after supposedly consuming the eridians it never shows sentience. I see the final war basically be a halo flood like scenario, where the Destroyer takes FULL center stage as it threat to consume everything in the universe, it may use use tech from the eridians or even the eridians themselves (zombies or something) to combat the player. This would be a threat requiring the help of EVERY vault hunter and warranting the use of a godlike item like anatheium gem, to kill completely. Hell it could probably banter throughout the game with the player in classic BL fashion since it’s meant to grow smarter as well. And the reason why the Seer might’ve tried to stop us is because the destroyer is meant to the natural end of the universe, becoming another big bang after it’s consumed everything and starting the process over. (A Ragnarock)
in my opinion i think the destroyer is dead due to the fact that tyreen fused with it, a mortal and immortal fusion would weaken their structure and make them killable
I thought that the destroyer did die permanently because it fused itself with something living (tyreen)
"The Watcher talking about how they need all the vaunt hunters they can get." The plot of the Borderlands Arena of Badassery board game is Mister Torgue cloning vaunt hunters from BL1 to BL3 plus 4 new ones for his own amusement, for a total of 24 vault hunters. What if...that's the Watcher's War and the Watcher is just really dramatic about it? :P
I wish I had your copium ngl The fact that there are people still thinking that borderlands writers can pull off any satisfactory story after 3 lmao
Outside of the Eridian guardian story, i'd like to see more storytelling for the Vault Hunter that we all have gotten attached to especially the BL 3 ones.
I do remember in borderlands three There were cliffs you could scan and gave you history lessons. One of them was about a 7th siren.
I really disappointed that bl 3 is disconnected from previous bl title story(lack of mention of stuff or mystery stuff like the seraph) while even pre sequel had better story connection... They dont need to bring back jack or make jack like villain on next title... I mean they completely forget about the seraph.. yeah you can argue seraph is just dlc economy stuff from bl2... But it has good expansion potential for main story of who we are at war with? The seraph will be good candidate... Also if seraph is only just afterthought why do they need to went as far to add seraph vendor unique dialogue that hinted that we have to stop them (the seraph)... Its sad that they forget about it... Seraph could be made to be something that even eridian fear...
As an actual mainline game the crystal probably isn't a good fit but as dlc it could be cool to be used as an excuse to bring back previously fought bosses but in a smaller more contained environment
I think a cool theory is this Gem revives the leaders of different factions who have died. Zarpadon from the pre sequel, Handsome Jack, the calipso twins, katagawa. We could get this massive war with those 4 revived that's 4 huge factions who could oppose the vault hunters and would have beef with them. Cause then you'd have Bandits, Hyperion, Dahl and Malawan teaming up against the vault hunters.
Captain Scarlet is a loose end still needs to be tied up. Also it would be pretty insane if Aslan De Vega is still alive.
I would love a jack and claptrap mission where those two are fighting to be the leader off the mission 😂😂
I kinda want them to expand on the Eridium cartels that the seasonal event was about, there's potential for really cool stuff there
jack could come back with the gem as; one of the reasons for him being evil was the death of his wife which the gem has the power to return to him under the deal of assistant. this would also if done right give us chance to see how jack would change or if he would change if given a complete second chance. note (in my opinion being AI jack isn't a second chance as an AI ghost detach from it all and possibly limited in action as his data is base on crazy jack I'm willing to text/say that jack may act differently than it.)
id love to see more done with the bounty of blood dlc/the history of jakobs, just because of how good the environment of the dlc was.
I just want the original Tales from the Borderlands crew back together again, after the car crash that was New Tales, it made me miss their story even more.
I really surprised that no one talks about the 7th siren, when borderlands lore originally was only 6 sirens can exist at the same time. Yet in borderlands 3 there was a echo log that mentions the 7th siren and we must not find the 7th
imagine being able to play as all 16 vault hunters would be really cool. or maybe do it like ttwl and we become a vault hunter with varying skills
I think it would be cool if Lilith got transported to a planet made of eridium and gets addicted to it and becomes a crazy powerful siren who's gone crazy from the addiction
You can't imagine how hyped I would be for such an outcome, fighting alongside with Jack and everybody else that has died, in a great war that has something to do with kind of mysterious forces would be so so awesome! I can't wait for the next Borderlands game, hopefully it's going to be as great or even greater as Borderlands 2 was as the devs seem to be taking their time for the next one.
Jack going to cosplay as The Starchild in his see thru Tales from the Borderlands skin
Thanks for the spoliers warnings
12:29 with that radiation your speaking of could be the eridium that she used back in borderlands 2 and in borderlands 3 to basically power up. similar to a drug in the borderlands wise and is known to not be good for them.
If that is what your saying maybe there others that are ending up like this
@mrxnacho7925 possible. But does seem like a drug type thing for them because using it makes them eventually die if I remember right from the games
I can think about a few more unfinished storylines there is the huge army of loaderbots at the handsome jackpot under the controll of moxxi, there is the think with the new leader of hyperion , maybe it is athena because it can explain why she is at the leader meeting from tediore and her gimmik was always a shield like the shieldfunction from hyperion weaponary sins borderlands 3 and in tales form the borderlands she was corupted by an dark magicy think. So there is a lot of open plots to continue.
The gem "you random npc number 69 from borderlands 2 you will go to back to the land of the living and fix things" lol
Probably the could bring back Steele to since her siren powers still be a mystery
Since Steele died, my guess is that her powers have been passed on to the next playable siren.
Jack being the new Frieza would be awesome. BORDERLANDS 4 RESSURECTION OF J
Something Ive wondered about Lilith and her powers post Vault opening and with Eridium returning to Pandora is that in 2 there is a bit of timey wimey ness at work with her. We traverse like 2 maps spanning miles and fighting tons of foes to get to the Highlands where Floating Sanctuary reappears but Lilith teleported away again at least an hour ago and is just now showing up on our screens. Sure you could explain that its a cool visual and they just wanted to see it again but it does seem like her Firehawk powers in general dont really adhere to the laws of time and space especially when pushed to their limits. So Lilith could just show up somewhere in the universe years from now and feel like she just left which could be interesting as we again were warned "Not to find the 7th" and currently until Lilith reconsitiutes in the main timeline there is only 6(or 5 but Leech presumably is on its way to someone) sirens which falls in line with the rules of the universe meaning Lilith's return could be the inciting incident that kicks off 4s storyline especially if that story finally IS what The Watcher warned about
I hope Ava is the first casualty, just so the powers she robbed Maya of can be given to literally fucking anybody else
Imagine being able to play as one of the many vault hunters in 4 n all their classes gets a massive upgrade
Mmm this is true b4 might be better than b3 but we need more storyline that's what we might get mmm I hope they make b4 I think
Tales from the borderlands directly set up for Borderlands 3, it only makes sense New tales from the borderlands would do the same. Did you see they cliff hanger they set up with timm-e? I believe he will have a vital role in the story for the next mainline borderlands game.
jack has done his story arc he does not need to come back and neither should he they need to make a new villain which i think with the trend of zainy unserious characters we could use someone who is 1: a serious threat 2: has goals beyond just power alone 3: isnt in constant contact with the characters preferably in way that the players and characters are seaching for him/her/they after discovering something they did in history or via unexplained phenomena and 4: preferably choosing weather or not the player was actually involved in the cutscenes. a serious villain would be a great way to change the image of ava which was destroyed in 3 when her arc really could have been good if maya's death was treated with any smidgeon of tact and probably would do a lot to show her (supposed) ability to lead or at least ability to learn. gameplay needs a overhaul but thats for a different video.
I always wondered if the Vault monsters weren't all old sirens that were corrupted at some point. Maybe there was more at some point but due to corruption only the 6 remain that we know about
Looking forward to it.
I think that if they do resurrect a ton of dead characters it's going to be limited in some way (like maybe the shard can only bring back people whom it itself has killed with ease and that the further back someone died the harder it is to not only bring them back but keep them back (making it so we might have to spend the entire game charging up the crystal for each resurrection and then in the final battle the crystal could be shattered severing the line that's resurrecting them putting them on a time limit and I suspect that the time keeper will have some young xehanort type limitation where characters can't be brought back only taken from a moment before they're death and at the end of the battle they are forced to return whence they came like imagine Roland gets brought back for the final battle and Lilith has to go through him dying again effectively I also suspect that anything the time keeper can do requires an equal trade like to bring someone who died ten years ago back the vault hunter must sacrifice ten years of there future as cost to pull it off Honestly I feel like the best possible way this can go is we have to locate the time keeper and shard but even with there combined powers all the characters resurrected can't permanently come back or if they can it will be at great personal cost (albeit I could see the lodge potentially coming in clutch or Tanis and fixing the problem (like imagine if those resurrected through the time keeper are temporally unwinding but the lodge can halt that while Tanis figures out a more permanent solution and the shard whilst resurrecting there body limits there lifespan or something
Great ideas
I think that the revive plot could work but it would need some restrictions like bringing people back to fight the war and then going back to rest. Like for example it could have been an eridian backup plan if things went really bad, but they probably couldnt use for some reason.
Every question around Jack coming back was sorta like, “no there’s no way, oh wait if EVERYONE is back”
Good luck on the house hunt
I think we might get past heros and villans back to face something bigger than the destroyer and this time it will break the 6 siren rule to even have a chance. Mancubis might know more than we are let on to like how to beat the destroyer or what is on the other side of it’s prison cell and we never saw Steel’s siren power in the first one so maybe we get to play as her in 4 or maybe DLC. Also I think the vault monsters are failed warrior projects and we could find a way to talk to them and get them to join us like a mass effect 3 final battle. Whenever we hear something about 4 it should make us happy that we are getting news and to think about what we will be shooting at next.
I have a really good feeling that we might see something relating to Borderlands 4 at the Summer Game Fest, since Gearbox is showing up there, but still. As for the storyline, I think that we might get the Watcher’s War and the fate of Lilith in the fourth game, I don’t know anything about that green stone in the new tales of borderlands game, I see it as a eyesore, if they resurrect characters, they have to choose carefully on who to bring back and make it work. 🤨🤔🤔🤔
I'm grasping for straws here but the war timeline could be good. Though Troy and Tyreen seemingly had different powers. With them being conjoined twins the leech siren abilities could've been divided. Seeing how Tyreen "reunited" those abilities and merged with the destroyer. The destroyer might now have the knowledge and power to manifest it's self into the Borderlands universe. It's power not limited by form. It might also have the ability to bless other beings, that being the army this war is fought against.
jack says that only six sirens can exist without the universe imploding we know currently of three after troy tyrene and lillith exited the game. one of the dialogues from the queen i think says beware the seventh. perhaps what happened to lillith is that she got put out of the universe? whcih would allow the new sirens to get the numbers up to 6 while letting a 7th exist. perhaps the beware of the 7 message is meant to forewarn that lillith coming back would be catastrophic.
Everything past the second game doesn't even have the spirit
I believe Jack from the First Tales game I would like to think is in Borderlands 3. Rhys gives his Jack Eye to Blake and Hyperion creates the Jackhammer.
the fact that that artifact exists means that not only jack could come back but his wife and his daughter angel. Would getting angel and his wife back be enough to call it quits idk. Though could have a great double cross either at the end or during the lead up to the climatic fight.
Hey buddy, loved the Neir vid, any chance you could do a Complete, Unabdridged Timeline for the Diablo games?
keep posting long videos i love them for when I am board their interesting very
What about Captain Scarlet from the pirate dlc? She's still around
(I wrote a lot. Updated the first paragraph to be a little less condesending.) My personal experience with Borderlands. In 2015 My brother and Father introduced me to Borderlands 2 once I was old enough in the hopes of getting me into FPS games. I didnt get into the game until 2018 and my first Char was Salvador. For the next month i did about 2 entire playthroughs and was playing it until Bl3 came out. We were all hyped and would often jam the Trailer music to sing along and jam. To cut a long story short, Borderlands 3 broke our hearts, My brother and Father who got me into this franchise, now will probably never play another title, becuase playing 3 leaves you with a feeling of confusion, depression and anger. It really made me look back at what made me like the older titles: Borderlands 2 is fun to play becuase the gameplay in that game is Easy to learn, hard to master, (If you play the game the intended way). Every environment in that game is so highly detailed and memorable, the music you can jam along to and it adds detail to what environment you're in. Southern Shelf makes you feel super cold and desolate, Caustic Caverns makes you feel underground and gloomy, Opportunity makes you feel like your somewhere futuristic, you get the idea . Every gun manufactuer does different things, the Story is 10/10, unique enemy dialogue. Borderlands 2 is on a whole other plain of existance when it comes to immersion and fun. In 2021 I played the Pre-sequel becuase that was reccomended to me a lot. And I loved it, it was peak borderlands. Exploring somewhat linear areas, working with Hyperion when you kicked their asses in 2, the Low-low grav, the music. The story is pretty good, not great but good. The vault hunters were all really well designed, Nisha, Wilhelm, Athena, Fragtrap, Name that rhymes with "Jimothy" and Aurelia. You guys will have your complaints about this game, I will probably agree with them! But this game set in space around one of the best gaming villains in history, tickles me a LITTLE bit more than 2 does. Were almost 3 years in and I am still in the honeymoon phase of this game, so I am going to be biased. I am sorry. With Borderlands 3, I am not traveling across giant mounds of trash in Pandora, mowing down mindless bugs, psychos and marauders for fun and hopefully good drops... I have to sit through unskippable cutscenes, boring pre-sequel-tier dialogue that gets worse after the 4th time you hear it. A lot of guns are useless and just look flashy and dont often function as good weapons, annointed enemies being scuffed badass 'Eternals' from Vorago Solitude. Annointed weapons, Mayhem mode not being properly balanced becuase of Artificial Scaling Mechanics. Customizing your character is now filled with Zoomer-normie skins that break immersion. The Vault bosses were, again, worse than the Pre-sequel. The gameplay is hard to learn, hard to REMEMBER, and the game is DESIGNED around those mechanics. Eden 6 is one of the best parts of 3, and the dialogue fight between Balex and GenVIV was good, but I STILL prefer Bosun and Skipper with the Drakensburg. The level of fustration I have with this game is unrealistic. I cannot play this game becuase of this wall of text. With Borderlands 4, what can they do? All possible storylines sound very mediocre when compared to 3 2 and TPS. New Tales indirectly confirmed that they continue to use the abysmal art style and story. The gameplay is going to be more heavy-handed, so what do i have to look forward to in this franchise as a casual player? I havnt completely abandoned all hope like some have, I still want a good Borderlands game. But I am not rushing to buy it. Thanks for uhm...reading my rant, I only ever write comments this long and detailed about Borderlands.
Thanks !
I think the warpath bl4 could take would be really interesting. the plot in my head would be something like how the original eridians woke up from some sort of hybernation and saw how people have been opening their vaults so they decided to eradicate humans as a result. All pervious valulthunters including a new line of badasses would have to work together to fight for their existance. It would be super easy to rope the timekeeper, seventh siren, and all other loose plot threds into this overarching narrative that way. The crystal dude from new tales could bring back characters like Maya, Scooter and Roland. Another idea i had was that the seventh siren Nyriad warned about could be an eridian herself as a sort of prototype and/or Nyriad was that siren and was hybernating with the rest of her species. The corporations could (try to) settle their differences to band together and assist the vault hunters. Ava could die before the restoration of maya which would also be great.
4 years later, and it still baffles me that they didn’t follow up on the Watcher and their “war.” Talk about a wasted plot.
@EruptionFang I have now devoured all of your Borderlands lore content and still miss Ech Logs from Part 1+2+TPS. Can you still do it too?
I personally would love to see all these ideas expanded upon. A war where “everyone is needed”, would be a great set up to flesh out these characters and stories in the BL world. Some other things; What is up with a 7th Siren? I want Mech Gortys back for a war! BL 4 will be developing on Unreal Engine 5 the game could be incredible and future installments can be even crazier!
It would be cool to play as all the characters from every borderlands game along with new ones.
it is like dr who in the Lodge Borderlands 3 DLC
"Beware the fury of a patient man." Borderlands is so profound ❤
The watcher actually is mentioned in the gaurdian takedown
i feel like the only direction for borderlands to go without getting dry and old would be to go the destiny route
I only just noticed, but Handsome jack's right hand? it has a sort of... metal connector to his arm... and it's the sam hand Timothy cuts off in BL3 so you can win the dlc. Is this just because of the "winning" hand that JAck will have also had in addition to all his decoys so there were no differences between them? good chance this is common knowledge at this point but I only just noticed it here
I'd like a new VH. Somewhere along the lines of Fl4k and Gaige but using everyone's favourite dancing bot as the companion. Maybe with the skill that Fl4k and i can't remember which skill tree it was but your companion used whatever gun you had.
Idc what happens. But if either jakobs or hammerlock die, ima be real hurt