'Putin is a fool': New York Times reveals audio of Russian soldiers phoning home • FRANCE 24
2022 ж. 28 Қыр.
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The New York Times obtained intercepted calls made by Russian soldiers in Ukraine, including damning accounts of the execution of civilians. FRANCE 24's International Affairs Commentator Douglas Herbert tells us more.
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These recordings need to be broadcast on Russian news
Most Russians already know about these calls , they just pretend every thing is fine , its a good thing the mobilisation happened, to shake them awake
Russians think they are fake. Just like the Bucha an Izum massacres. They refuse to admit any wrongdoing no matter the evidence. Russians only understand brute force and corpses of their fallen soldiers coming home (and they try to hide those too)
The day you know that BBC,ALJAZEERA,ABC,CNN are there to promote Western propaganda,you will stop commenting like this
Really. but unfortunately all TV stations and news stations are under russian government, some independent news outlet in russia are forced to close their broadcasting.
It’s on KZhead. ..multiple channels ! They believe whatever they want to believe
I’ve been listening to these interceptions for months. What was really shocking for Ukrainians is the amount of swearing in these conversations between Russian soldiers and their mothers and wives/ girlfriends. Also a complete lack of empathy. The last bits of “brotherly nations “ propaganda is dead.
@porn theater mop bucket you’re fake
@porn theater mop bucket You are fake.
@porn theater mop bucket listen to 3:56
@@GlennRA3 New York Slimes is a rag.
@@GlennRA3 When news matter, you can always depend on porn theater mop bucket.
Never before in the history of warfare has there been the ability of regular soldiers being able to communicate with loved ones instantaneously.
Middle East wars?
@@asanitationstompout8473 I think he meant in the west? But he probably should have made that more clear
Whats wrong with pidgeons
The interceptions of the torture is the worst thing I've ever experienced. No empathy what so ever.
Those of us who are believing Crhistians know this is diabolical influence. Demons are real, and they aim at dehumanising though sadistic violence.
Agreed. Pity the West has no room to talk.
Only difference is that you wont hear those from the West. Simple minds simple worries I suppose.
You mean "whatsoever"? Poor English percieved in a small school somewhere near Kiev? Hello, ЦИПсО troll!
@@daraorourke5798 We have no need to talk, let the Russians blab. What a revolting country and culture...
Wow. If these messages are three months old we can only imagine what they are saying lately !
There are a few youtube channels where they have them. Usually just days old.
Now there are records where soldiers tell their families that their unit was wiped out and they are among the few lucky survivors.
@@jjmbeausoleil What channel?
Help
@@HebrewJerusalemBoy ^^
Thank you for making this accessible to the public. The New York Times article with this audio is behind a paywall
Ukrainian news channels regularly publish such phone calls on KZhead.
Try insights of Ukraine channel for intercepted phone calls it’s really good 👍✅
There a channel here on KZhead called "insights From Russia and Ukraine" that publishes a lot of phone calls between Russian troops.
@@dieterdodel835 But those are less credible because of reasonable propaganda purposes.
@@mikloscsuvar6097 So, what makes you think that listening to audio recordings on this or any other western channel is less of a "reasonable propaganda"?
PURELY FABRICATED!
Yes. Russians are all kind and gentle.
@@richardmoloney689 Yes, they never had a colony where they murdered half of population like west had.
The recordings have been provided by the Ukrainian Security Service for months and they should be given the credit.
Credit for being liars you mean. Thats already established.
👍
I agree. To much major network news cites unnamed sources, but when the source is known, give credit. Most people just don't use common sense and go looking for themselves, but I can see here in comments the people who figured it out.
May be the recordings are made by by the Ukranians? Didn't you think about it?
@@katrinat7936 nooooooooo! The Ukrainians? They wouldn't dare! In fact it was me. I organized it I confess to it all.
Yeah mainstream outlets are way behind-I’ve already heard these and much newer calls every few days on KZhead channels… Insights from Ukraine or something like that…
KZhead channel: INSIGHTS FROM UKRAINE AND RUSSIA (Great videos, definitely worth your time)
Yeah I follow a lot of Russian streamers who get this information way before the press. But the press isn't like streamers. They have to validate sources before releasing other wise it can mean the reporters job
4TheRecord has been keeping on top of this too. No doubt the NYT are monitoring him and others.
Probably fake
Guessing it's more of a reminder for the half the population that seems to have the memory of a goldfish.
Good grief. Where has the New York Times been for half a year? We on the internet have been listening to these calls between Russian soldiers and their families back home since Feb 24. It's horrific to hear. It's horrific that main stream media only just now starts to talk about it.
FTNYT
As a news service, they need to verify the content before publishing. They also have more reach to audiences who are not on the internet listening to this.
Is there anywhere where all the calls are uploaded? That would help a lot if people would share
They need to scrutinize everything before publishing
maybe you should have watched the video?
I remember an interview of an army general being asked about the Russian soldiers complaining about their superiors and he smirked and said he doesn't know a single soldier who hasn't complained about their superiors.
Yes but some do merrit criticism more than others. Everyone complains about their bosses. But not many put you in a situation where there is a great chance of you being killed, order you to kill civilians and give yoi the crappiest gear while leaving you hungry and underpaing you. These russians have all the reasons in the world to complain!
Ask the boss with a gun if anyone has complained about him...
Then they get a sledgehammer to their heads
Fun fact... every single soldier that executed a civilians can be brought up individually on war crimes. The "I was only obeying orders" doesn't apply. So once this is done, like the end of ww2, each one of those soldiers is going to be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.
Except unlike in ww2, there's digital evidence
so what other choice would you have when dismissing the given order?
I get most of my Ukraine news now from KZhead because the main stream media is so slow, sometimes even reporting things that happened over 2 weeks ago. That's as good as forever in this war. When I tell my wife the latest news she keeps doubting me saying that she hasn't seen or read anything like that on the news. That said, it takes a lot of experience to know what is propaganda and what is fact. I've even fallen for some of this, but you soon get the true picture when you read the comments. There are a lot of eagle eyed guys out there watching out and calling out any BS they might find.
There's also a lot of people, particuarly on Twitter, who want to be the first to report any rumor from the battlefield. Some of these rumors actually end up being true, others, not so much. If the professional media is slower, at least they're vetting their sources before reporting.
@@eurodoc6343 That’s why I don’t use twitter.
@@eurodoc6343 Sure, the professionals are held to high standards of reporting and that means taking time to first corroborate whatever story they have with other sources. I'm not criticising that. But it's still interesting to get up to the minute news even if it means taking it all first with a pinch of salt. And anyway, over time you start to differentiate between who on KZhead is seriously trying hard to give facts and is more trustworthy and the ones just manufacturing clickbait and peddling propaganda. A good indication of the quality of a KZhead channel on Ukraine are the numbers of likes. A good channel usually has a couple of Ks worth already a few hours after premiering its latest video.
@@mikethespike7579 , some people might know while many others not so much. Based on the number of likes alone cannot solely be used for trust worthiness. QAnon was or possibly still is highly popular even after many of its claims have proven to be false. I think it is always okay to take some rumors as interesting information for entertainment purposes, but always take that with a grain of salt. Your girlfriend is right to be skeptical until the actual mainstream media corroborate with the story as confirmation much later.
T.V. and Radio news and updates are days, weeks or months behind, usually! Your wife is stuck in the 1990s in reference to info consumption! lol!
We just now hear about it? We heard these conversations since March on KZhead! That this batch has been verified now is interesting and useful for prosecution, but only russian propagandists doubted they were real...
And they will still say they were fake
No, reputable news sources aren't like KZhead. They have to verify their sources.
@@adrianross8383 : Irrelevant in the sense that they were undoubtedly real. And as to verification of sources, the standard of that in newspapers is very low. If you ever fact checked articles about a topic you know a lot about, you will know that... I've done that long ago on a variety of topics, in Dutch and English newspapers.
@@WHS_reviews In the current state of misinformation on the internet; actual news sources really do need to walk on more eggshells and not spread misinformation. There is no onus on online sources to be so careful.
EXACTLY 🙌
Love the explanation on how this info has been obtained.
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Yes some of these calls have been online for months but some news outlet have their reputation to think about. As it was said, the time to verify and cross check these calls to make sure they're authentic while some channels don't have that headache
Be quiet you ruZZian bot, these calls are recent, like days ago.
I had the same thought reading some other comments saying the "main stream media" is so slow and they only get their info from KZhead channels. Yes, larger media outlets have a reputation of accuracy that they need to protect by verifying these things, hence the delay. Anyway nice comment sir.
verification is very important to any news outlets.
I like how they show this like these recordings are new. Anybody who has followed the war will have heard dozens of calls similar to this one
They aren't saying it's new but newly confirmed by a respected independent source
Media houses don't just talk about anything! They have to get evidence, proof before putting it to public to avoid court cases and being sued
They literally said these were recorded back in March... It's just they finally finished verifying and cross-referencing them to ascertain their authenticity.
@@pakde8002 yes exactly
Ok so why are you complaining like a Communist?
He's having senior moments. All praise to those who refuse to fight.
Great
Hope this is presented to the UN Security Council asap
Other side will claim audio is fake. These kind of evidence are invalid
UN Security Council is a Over glorified waste of money and time, they won't do anything other then have a Vote so they can get it vetoed.
UN basically doesn’t do anything anyway, unfortunately.
These recordings have been on line for months,,nothing new,
to do what ? not everyone in the military is gonna be pro their leader, u can find the same among americans lol
As other commentator's have said, This news (in depth) isn't covered by the mainstream media outlets. All I have to add is..... Slava Ukraini 👍🙏
It is, the transcripts, first time i saw the real source, how Washington post got them.
It's on the channel 'Insights from Ukraine and Russia' since the beginning of the war.
Those channels released the conversations as soon as they got them, the New York Times on the other hand had to verify them in order to be 100% sure they were genuine. They were, of course, but they still had to verify them.
Hectic and troubling. Even though we have heard of similar things previously- it never get's old- because it is beyond shocking.
The West not being able to dismantle Russia and get its precious resources... Wise men once said: "I support the current thing" :)
UATV channel has videos of intercepted audio conversations from Russian troops for months now. Many are very chilling.
I find it absolutely amazing that this information is "breaking News"... Where have these reporters been the past few months including the New York Times...
That's okay Give it a rest
Just watch the whole vid will ya
@@V_George No, he shouldn't give it a rest, he's right.
But the press isn't like streamers. They have to validate sources before releasing other wise it can mean the reporters job
@@STHFGDBY Do you support NOT authenticating news? There could be error and then is would fake. By doing their research we can have a sense they did their job to find truth. Not made up lies.
Thank you for your information, it's trueful and factual for everyone to see, God Bless Our Success 🙏❤️😇
I feel sorry for the civilians.
He explained very well!!
and you can prove they are genuine calls from genuine soldiers...how..?
I doubt they can prove it ...Zulu
Do you not have any skills of comprehension? Listen to it again. The explanation is there in the vid "Brian". 🤣😂
People usually left a large footprint on social media. That helps quite a bit.
it must be true. . . the NYT said so. . . 🤣
Have Listen to them all from insight its a really good channel 👍
There is an excellent youtube channel called ' Insights from Ukraine', who has the phonecalls translated. Seem legit, and so eyeopening. Worth watching.
How does it seems legit? Everyone can replicate these type of calls...
I totally agree.
we have all heard these every day for 6 months , now the NYT has " obtained " them .....lol
Their IT department finally allowed them to browse KZhead... 😆
'Exclusively ' ... 🤔💰😉
Exactly they were verifying them . Stop commenting on videos you don’t watch past :30 seconds
Good reporting. Thank you U.S.A 🇺🇲 from Canada 🇨🇦
Shocking!
Somehow Douglas Herbert always looks shocked.
Seems genuine chap.
@@gubernatorial1723 I'm sure he is, I wasn't trying to discredit him, I'm just saying that he has that look in every thumbnail and every video.
Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine! 💛💙💪
Pidarasam Slava 🤣
i would read all those in one sitting, as chilling as they are.
The only thing in my mind is a question. What is the sample size? Because with 4 samples against 100 intercepted calls, what if the other 96 were actually positive or neutral? I wouldn't know that.
Good to hear some discussion about NYTs attempts to authenticate - that's the important news here.
Yeah, you know right away that people are gonna say the recordings are faked. It's important to be transparent with the authentication methods. But I doubt this will shut them up
@@fredbyoutubing they could be fake. you are only hearing it from a bald guy on french news who heard it from NYT which does have a bad record. you really don't know who made those calls.
@@KA-rp5uh
@@mrwong8584 NYT was way off on HB's laptop. NYT is well known to push more of a political narrative than factual reporting.
@@fredbyoutubing the problem is that it takes a lot of work and recources to authenticate these recordings, while it won't lead to extra profits. The NYT may have done their due diligance, but if they hadn't this would still be sensational news. You get rewarded for sensationalism, not reliability. From a business pov authentification just isn't worth the hassle.
Sixteen. Sheesh. Thousands of Russian armored vehicles can't compensate for sixteen HIMARs. Amazing.
Absolutely agree!
With social media around, old-fashioned wars are harder to win if you’re on the wrong side.
Strange that military personnel in war zone can use personal com to call home, and even have their com recorded.
Silly buggers knocked out all the 4G and 3G, that left unencrypted 2G.
@@capt.bart.roberts4975 😂😂
Yes yes super authentic!!!
Truth dies first in war.
Good work, Mr Burns.
Go to this channel for lots more intercepted calls. I binge watched all his videos a few weeks back. Very fascinating. Insights from Ukraine and Russia
I've been watching his videos. Intercepted phone conversations, real talked. cannot be denied it comes from the horses mouth.
Which channel?
What channel?
go to what channel? would love to hear more intercepted calls
Comments section just goes to show that people don't even read comments to the end. The recommended channel was already shared in the last line of the original comment in this thread.
Crazy world. What can I say.
True true
He's an expert but has never seen KZhead? 😂 I'm happy he's spreading information now
If it’s from the New York Times , I’d still question it.
As a result of the night shelling of the city of Dnipro, a severe fire broke out at one of the motor transport enterprises. The fire destroyed more than 200 buses.
There’s a podcast on KZhead I’ve been watching for awhile with these phone calls that you can listen to, it’s called Insights from Ukraine and Russia, they’re interesting to listen to..
Very informative
Putin: I'm the King of the World! Himars: You wish 🙄🙄🙄
These recordings have been accessible online for months. Why hype it as new?
The bureaucrat who fabricated them didn't get the payraise he wanted?
How authentic are these audios
99% come from Ukraine's SBU (successor to the KGB). They conveniently say whatever Ukraine wants them to say. Some people say the speakers tend to have a western Ukrainian accent. Given this track record and that it's being sourced by an enemy of Russia, I put very little stock in this.
Just throwing this out there, "Thousands of sound bytes." They show
this is so messed up
Soldiers must believe in what they are fighting for .
like Vietnam, desert storm, iraqi freedom, southern watch, you really think we believed anything other than," i believe some politicians somewhere are making a lot of money for us to be dying like this.
Leeroy Jenkins?
It's astounding 👍😊 God bless Ukraine 😊🙏😇
How Newyork Times catch up or listen up this voice of audio call?
Welp, RIP to that soldier
The Russian lack of secure communications seems to be a factor in the intercepts. Many soldiers seem to have smartphones, despite a commander saying they would not be allowed.
I been listening to these phone calls on KZhead for months.
This is insane
Pictures please?
People can recognise the voice of families, friends, colleagues, neighbours - placing them in grave danger.
I had read elsewhere that the Russian secure channels were being jammed and they resorted to unsecure communication methods.
a lot of them wernt even jammed, they just didnt have the equipment so are phoning each other orders
@@Ukraineaissance2014 it's almost unbelievable that a modern military would struggle so much to provide basic equipment like secure communications. The criticisms the Russia had a parade ground army seem well founded.
It is shame to talk about smb’s phone call conversation.
wait... but who is recording these phone calls and making them public??? like i record all my phone calls using an app but who has orchestrated this job of getting phone call recordings from russian soldiers??? is this audio from apps on the phones of the recipients of the calls??? is there any way to acknowledge the veracity of these calls?
These tapes have been on KZhead for months. Main stream got onto this late. Reminds me of my Nan finding out about the internet.
Thank you for this report. Any country shall refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. This is a blatant illegitimate land grab.
Sadly there are many who would disagree with your comment. One could call it the cult of stupidity.
Agree 100% Seems like it would be basic stuff but here we are
There's a saying "Older men declare war while the young has to fight it"
...How convinient...
Blessings, peace and luck from California to Ukraine 🙏🙏✌🍀💛💙
Jag lyssnade på detta. Fruktansvärt
Att putin kan sitta kvar är ett mysterium.
Ryssarna skall sparkas ut ur Europa varenda en.Vidriga odjur allihopa
Being loyal is something so important even if it's so hard
Where are the intercepted calls? In audio form. All 4000 of them.
That is BS concerning the phone recordings. There are a few if not more of these recordings attained in intelligence efforts every day. Some of the mothers swear worse than even my mother.
Glad I never met your mother
If the Russian soldiers are demoralise why aren't the Ukraine soldiers crossing to Moscow and why isn't Ukraine taking advantage of this to annex parts of Russia
Because they don't want to
Interviewer: Doug, what's your reaction to some of those clips? Douglas: 👁️ 👁️ 👃 👄
UATV occasionally presents these call intercepts as do a few other YT channels.
Low morale if Russians is good, but the sheer number of hundreds of thousands of new conscripts is really disturbing. Ukrainians support should be doubled or tripled
Yes and give them everything they need
Ukrainians are not important . Only us .
These types of recordings should be played over and over preferably on a site dedicated to exposing Russian war crimes. Social media companies should review these conversations and make an exception by creating a page to help in the prosecution of these crimes against humanity. For once Facebook and like companies can do some good to make up for all the harm they have done.
how are you not know this recordings for months? I habe listened to them since the war started. you find it all over youtube.
We aren't feeling like our phone traffic is not safe as well ?
None of these recordings have been verified, so extreme caution should be used before making any judgements or drawing any conclusions.
I’ve been listening to such recordings for months from Ukrainian tv via KZhead 😉
that's amazing!
Why is this discussed now?! These tapes was available a few days into the war.
It's impossible to know if this is authentic or not.
No it isn't.
@@JesperSalama Then prove that it's authentic.
U r really weirdo if u think Ukrainians doing it by themselves
Good job, congratulations.
Electricity is incredibly expensive 😜
interesting that i dont get yo see both side of this comflict in this part of the world where im at.
*Germany and France:* lets not accuse Putin of genocide and crimes against humanity, it makes him angry and endangers our appeasement policy.
Reminds me of Vietnam. US soldiers were told they were going to liberate the country: instead they commit genocide. Many returned and protested the war and those in charge of it.
The US didn't commit genocide in Vietnam. They were assisting the South against a communist invasion from the North.
We’ve been listening to these phone calls as they’ve been happening. No way is this “exclusive” to New York Times.
These recordings are so old. There’s a YT channel that post these conversations daily