The Canadian Basketball School that Crushes NCAA Opponents

2020 ж. 22 Там.
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The Carleton University Ravens have won 15 out of the last 18 U Sports national championships. During a typical summer, they play exhibition games against NCAA DI teams -- with past wins over Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Baylor, Wichita State, Alabama, Providence, Mississippi, and more. This video breaks down Carleton coach Dave Smart's unique weak hand defensive philosophy. A scheme that Jay Wright once called "The most unique I've seen."
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    @hoopvision68@hoopvision683 жыл бұрын
    • Lmfao your defense was so good you lost to Indiana in 14 and want to talk shit to Duke. Hmm why don’t you come down to the Duke. The defense is not new. Pleeeese! The vid is just a bs one.

      @businessk7236@businessk72363 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS It looks to me like other teams play there starters. Wisconsin did when they lost and went to Final Four: goravens.ca/wp-content/uploads/Wisconsin-at-Carleton-August-21-2013.pdf You can look at box score including minutes right there. Kaminsky, Dekker, all the big boys played full minutes

      @ericpatterson3937@ericpatterson39373 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS Witchita State played its big boys too: goshockers.com/news/2016/8/7/mens-basketball-great-wheat-north-shockers-battle-carleton.aspx The guys with the most minutes all started and played the most minutes vs Kentucky in the NCAA tournament later that year when Witchita lost by 3 points to a Kentucky team that would in turn lose by 2 to eventual champion North Carolina. It is just false to say these teams did not play their starters

      @ericpatterson3937@ericpatterson39373 жыл бұрын
    • Basic middle school coaching!

      @jimmyculp8756@jimmyculp87563 жыл бұрын
    • Oregon State's zone defense was very similar

      @cmoneyno5@cmoneyno53 жыл бұрын
  • Bruh how tf did I not know that my local university is that good??? The ain't enough marketing for university sports in Canada

    @duncanshaheen6517@duncanshaheen65173 жыл бұрын
    • lol i go to carleton and i never knew

      @elizabetholaniyi7344@elizabetholaniyi73443 жыл бұрын
    • Because it's not about hockey. LOL

      @my3dviews@my3dviews3 жыл бұрын
    • I’ve known for a long time. I did grow up in Ottawa though. Now I go to Carleton.

      @alexj7440@alexj74403 жыл бұрын
    • Cause people aren’t as interested and have less of a sports culture

      @JosiahPreston@JosiahPreston3 жыл бұрын
    • Nope I’m not in Ontario but this blew my mind. How is this guy not given a chance to coach or be involved in NBA???

      @TheJohnnystockman@TheJohnnystockman3 жыл бұрын
  • I played two years at Boston University and these dudes killed us too 😂😂😂

    @BranJ89@BranJ893 жыл бұрын
    • Is the D super sophisticated or is it really just force left and don't overhelp? If Jay Wright was confused that tells you something. Except if they're getting normal college kids how can they teach them something Jay Wright can't understand? I'm not getting it.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
    • @@johntallanger4036 it’s such a different look from anything you’ve ever seen playing basketball at the highest levels in America. Also it looks much different when you’re on the floor vs on film. When help does come it comes from weird places and it takes a lot of your muscle memory away, forcing you to think, which is always a bad thing. In our case, our smartest offensive players, who understand where help is supposed to come from and how to attack it, had a hard time anticipating how the defense was going to react to any given situation, and those overaggressive closeouts force a decision in typically limitless and advantageous situations as far as options go. Another thing is no team in D1 plays this way so it’s a lot of unlearning to do for one game. Overall it’s pretty intricate though it looks simple on the surface, which is why it’s hard to play against and also why no one can really replicate it.

      @BranJ89@BranJ892 жыл бұрын
    • @@BranJ89 Interesting. I can't figure out how they're teaching something that complicated. Do you think they're getting super smart players? Take years for guys to get on the floor? Even defenses that are considered sophisticated don't have those kinds of read and react components built in. I personally never trust players to make a series of judgement calls on the floor or remember the specifics of who is a shooter or non-shooter. Hard enough to get everyone to be 100 out of 100 disciplined about the basic principals of a unique D, let alone start improving.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
    • @@johntallanger4036 well you can tell they practice the hell out of it. I don’t think they’re above average intelligence, the coach just understands how to make it make sense to the players. I did notice that the guys who played the most minutes on their team were generally older so maybe the judgement calls are a product of experience but I’m sure they drill the mess out of it in practice.

      @BranJ89@BranJ892 жыл бұрын
    • @@BranJ89 Thanks. That helps. Is it a fundamentally superior way to play D? Would you coach/teach the system? Or do think their coach just has a feel for it and it's his thing that he just teaches really well? Another guy on here was coached by Carreltons coach on the national team. Sounds like it's just a force left system and that it didn't go that well. Seemed like guys were not executing the force left part enough. Which, most guys don't realize how extreme you have to think and be to create a true force. My take is it's a force left system but the coach is super strict about making sure that force left happens every single time. Once you can create a new pattern like that everyone abides by you can start adding wrinkles and complications and it'll look genius. But if your starting point is a force left system-- or even force right system -- and guys are only doing it 90% of the time it won't work.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
  • Carleton should be playing in the ncaa. They make a joke out of the CIS every year

    @GP-wu1eu@GP-wu1eu3 жыл бұрын
    • Problem is go to Div 1 you have to send a significant percentage of your schools sports to Div 1, you can’t just send one team. Carleton men’s basketball could easily join a mid major Div 1 conference but none of their other sports programs are good enough. You can send individual teams to Div 2, but U sports is on par or better than Div 2 so there’s no real point

      @HendayAllStar@HendayAllStar3 жыл бұрын
    • They'd finnish 10-18 in the Big 10, 8-21 in the ACC

      @cocorna3282@cocorna32823 жыл бұрын
    • Cocorna 32 based on what

      @Jimaybob@Jimaybob3 жыл бұрын
    • btw it's USports...hasn't been called CIS for years lol

      @kiroolioneaver8532@kiroolioneaver85323 жыл бұрын
    • @@cocorna3282 that doesn't seem to account for the video you've just watched, but ok zoomer

      @marcroy5089@marcroy50893 жыл бұрын
  • Man, love the fact that you gave Canadian hoops some love. Usports in Canada is actually high level sport and I’m glad you recognize that. Would love to see an invite into a play in game in the NCAA tournament. That would be so epic!

    @johnsorensen3023@johnsorensen30233 жыл бұрын
    • If these canadian schools had to go through the processes of the NCAA it would change them. Best they keep doing exhibition imo. NCAA are some crazy dictators.

      @chroniccomplainer3792@chroniccomplainer37923 жыл бұрын
    • They would choke in their first game. . . lol

      @jamedlock83@jamedlock833 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS It looks to me like other teams play there starters. Wisconsin did when they lost and went to Final Four: goravens.ca/wp-content/uploads/Wisconsin-at-Carleton-August-21-2013.pdf You can look at box score including minutes right there. Kaminsky, Dekker, all the big boys played full minutes

      @ericpatterson3937@ericpatterson39373 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS Witchita State played its big boys too: goshockers.com/news/2016/8/7/mens-basketball-great-wheat-north-shockers-battle-carleton.aspx The guys with the most minutes all started and played the most minutes vs Kentucky in the NCAA tournament later that year when Witchita lost by 3 points to a Kentucky team that would in turn lose by 2 to eventual champion North Carolina. It is just false to say these teams did not play their starters

      @ericpatterson3937@ericpatterson39373 жыл бұрын
    • I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS ... comment ruined by @Eric Patterson. Oh the IRONY!! ;p

      @johnsorensen3023@johnsorensen30233 жыл бұрын
  • When they had the Scrubb brothers hey were unstoppable. I think they only lost 5 games in those 5 years with two of them being to Lakehead, who were coached by Scott Morrison at the time. He 's now an assistant coach of the Boston Celtics. It literally took nba level coaching to beat them.

    @T_____1660@T_____16603 жыл бұрын
    • Crazy but true

      @brockmason4475@brockmason44753 жыл бұрын
    • I was at one of the games they lost to Lakehead in Thunder Bay. It was incredible. The building was packed-out and electric. Standing room only. I believe it was Carleton’s first (and only?) regular season loss of the season. As an Ottawa area high school basketball player it was really cool to see Dave Smart coach in-person. Dude was intense.

      @grounded81@grounded812 жыл бұрын
    • NBA level coaching is honestly not that great.

      @porterwake3898@porterwake38982 жыл бұрын
    • @@porterwake3898 it's really nba scoring policy they implemented bew rules 2017-2018 to make it easier on offense , anything can be called a foul now. No handchecking at all. Horrible I remember a game lakers vs thunder it was awful like 70 whistles

      @ManuelGarcia-oz9uo@ManuelGarcia-oz9uo2 жыл бұрын
    • @@porterwake3898 it’s worlds above college tho surprisingly. Look at Rick pitino for example. Another example is brad stevens being an all time coach in college absolutely and transforming butler and being just good to great in Boston. Coaching from ncaa to nba is a gigantic gap unlike cfb to nfl( which is still quite a gap)

      @man-thing6374@man-thing63742 жыл бұрын
  • As a kid, my dad used to take me to the Canadian version of March Madness. Carleton won every year that we went. I actually grew to despise them, like how people hate Duke or the Lakers... But now that my own College years are behind me I have a lot of respect for them 😊

    @aloe.0v0@aloe.0v03 жыл бұрын
  • hey man, I play Usports football in Canada. When Carleton comes to town for basketball its a small event lol. You know your teams getting shit pumped. Nice to see the love for their team.

    @em4706@em47063 жыл бұрын
    • Where you play at broski

      @tchoopee5143@tchoopee51432 жыл бұрын
  • Carleton has run canadian college basketball for legit my entire lifetime

    @clawxxchris@clawxxchris3 жыл бұрын
    • Me more

      @hastaar2161@hastaar21613 жыл бұрын
    • They do a good job of finding talent. I don’t understand why this is so shocking to people that they’re good against American schools. There’s not that many universities or colleges in Canada that push basketball like that. This gives schools like carleton a huge advantage to get some of the best talent from across Canada for their program because they’ve built up a reputation within Canadian basketball. I mean it’s not like Canada is some tiny country like Iceland. If you look for talent in a huge ass country you’ll find it and since they don’t have to compete with a shit load of school’s for talent like in the US they can just scout and build.

      @mikeyjames@mikeyjames3 жыл бұрын
    • @@mikeyjames because NCAA gets so much exposure everyone thinks it's basically pro ball

      @Smart-Towel-RG-400@Smart-Towel-RG-4002 жыл бұрын
  • See? The team game is the most important. Stop stroking egos, win games.

    @georgehenry76@georgehenry763 жыл бұрын
    • Depends completely on what level of competition.

      @randomguy5489@randomguy54893 жыл бұрын
    • Random Guy It’s more like a players ego is an important part of how they can bring a team victory, but it isn’t the most important part. The team has to be on the same page at the end of the day.

      @Jonathan-cz4ky@Jonathan-cz4ky3 жыл бұрын
    • Random Guy imagine thinking egos win games🤣🤣 chill your ego out and you’ll understand

      @blazin1397@blazin13973 жыл бұрын
    • Blazin wings It’s funny though, if you look at somebody like Lebron James whose all about the team game, because a lot of the times he lacks that ego and that fire that MJ and Kobe had, it’s actually caused him to lose more. There definitely needs to be a balance of both at the highest level of play. Much more than high school and college. Too much of it and you end up like Russell Westbrook, not enough and you hold yourself and your team back.

      @Jonathan-cz4ky@Jonathan-cz4ky3 жыл бұрын
    • @Liam d-did you just...call Lebron...HUMBLE???

      @Redditaurus@Redditaurus3 жыл бұрын
  • It’s so true how passing is the sign of the higher level player

    @Amir_Khosrowshahi@Amir_Khosrowshahi3 жыл бұрын
    • MJ and Kobe?

      @Jonathan-cz4ky@Jonathan-cz4ky3 жыл бұрын
    • Liam the exceptions prove the rule.

      @qbQubii@qbQubii3 жыл бұрын
    • qbQubii no the exceptions show that it makes sense for the majority of players but not the highest level ones. The best should have the ball in their hands.

      @Jonathan-cz4ky@Jonathan-cz4ky3 жыл бұрын
    • Liam You obviously didn’t get it

      @KiddsWorldEntertainment@KiddsWorldEntertainment3 жыл бұрын
    • Liam Kobe and Jordan were great passers. They just didn’t pass because the ball should be in their hands.

      @willythough@willythough3 жыл бұрын
  • Holy shit dude Ottawa represent let’s goooooo

    @demontrauma2373@demontrauma23733 жыл бұрын
    • Yuuuuurp let’s gooo!!!#613

      @MagicCityFLA@MagicCityFLA3 жыл бұрын
    • @@MagicCityFLA 343 now

      @LittleHomieLightningtech@LittleHomieLightningtech3 жыл бұрын
    • Referencer E it’s both😂

      @MagicCityFLA@MagicCityFLA3 жыл бұрын
    • Lol Ottawa represents we're here

      @KingOnema@KingOnema3 жыл бұрын
    • Yessir. Ottawa gang🤟

      @HAA0603@HAA06033 жыл бұрын
  • This is awesome to see different schemes other than the NBA and NCAA! Would love to see some overseas and even international FIBA vids.

    @coachp9139@coachp91393 жыл бұрын
    • Charles Hantomacos is the head coach of the International Academy with FIBA, right?. I grew up playing ball with him. He was the assistance coach, this year, for the U16, All-Canadian team. 2021. Amazing knowledge of the game.

      @davecosman9283@davecosman92832 жыл бұрын
  • Dude at the 2019 USports Nationals, I watched this team go down 6 points in the 4th quarter. Dave Smart sat down, put his face in his hands, and by the time he looked back up, Carleton was up by 2.

    @LowLeveledPower@LowLeveledPower3 жыл бұрын
    • Thatsssss CRAZY

      @dc7236@dc72363 жыл бұрын
    • @@dc7236 what’s crazy? 6 points in the 4th Qtr? What beginning, middle, last minute? 6 points is nothing.

      @localppc242@localppc242 Жыл бұрын
  • Let them in March Madness. Or at least some tournaments

    @Shinobi33@Shinobi333 жыл бұрын
  • Respect to giving Carleton and U sports good coverage! Also i've never played basketball competitively but love watching it so hearing the intricacies and inner workings of a really good scheme was cool too so props to you

    @davyjonessmallesttentacle@davyjonessmallesttentacle3 жыл бұрын
  • Who’s here from coach Daniel? Also great breakdown

    @fortniteconnaisseur4127@fortniteconnaisseur41273 жыл бұрын
    • Me Lmaooo

      @romanStillmatic@romanStillmatic3 жыл бұрын
    • Hell yea i love both channels now🏀🌎

      @nowornever7629@nowornever76293 жыл бұрын
    • Which Coach Daniel video did you come from? Can't seem to find where he mentioned this team or channel

      @raymondqiu8202@raymondqiu82023 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS i feel you but hey i respect any team thats going to make you use ur off hand. I was watching nba last night that shyt wouldnt work cuz every1 is good af using both hands lol

      @nowornever7629@nowornever76293 жыл бұрын
  • Bro, you fully broke it down, amazing video, very insightful watching it from a offensive perspective, a super elite defense

    @carlosmendez3955@carlosmendez39553 жыл бұрын
  • Besides the principles, I see 5 guys playing amazing individual/collective defense.

    @andresgirardo8481@andresgirardo84813 жыл бұрын
    • It's easy when everyone is on the same page as to what is happening and what the concepts are. Otherwise, you have everyone playing under a different defensive philosophy and strategy and they all look like shit.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
  • What's good Jordan @hoopvision68 , Just want to show you some love for this hella raw video. I was familiar with Carleton and Smart's defense before from Basketball Immersion, but your breakdown of what makes it work is brilliant. The way you share what they do effectively (dictating versus forcing; similarities and differences compared to Texas Tech and Virginia; the shock and under coverage). Also your video editing is on point. Separate note, I've followed your work for a while, but I just connected the dots that I heard you before on the Rising Coaches podcast. Good work bro, keep going. Logan

    @coachloganryan@coachloganryan3 жыл бұрын
  • What also wasn't mentioned at a personal level was that Carleton's system relies on a lot of very specific CU concepts and terminology. It's one of the reasons (besides quality of shooting, spacing, and players) that the defensive scheme is so hard to import across. The biggest reason why the scheme DOES work though is ego management. A lot of why Carleton dominates preseason is that right out of the gate, every player commits to grinding - which doesn't sound like anything out of the ordinary, but then you start thinking about the egos of young high school basketball recruits.

    @jungroan@jungroan3 жыл бұрын
    • Are they getting super smart, disciplined, kids that the US doesn't have access to for some reason? I'm not getting it. How can they have a system that has a complexity level that Jay Wright can barely follow it but teach it to normal college kids? Does it require the players multiple years to learn it before they can step on the floor?

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
    • @@johntallanger4036 They tend to take alot of local kids who are familiar with the team and respect Smart so when they walk in the door they already know what they're in for

      @crayolapencils247@crayolapencils2472 жыл бұрын
    • @@crayolapencils247 That makes sense. It could conceivably work at any level. It would just severely limit the players you could use bc of the amount of dumbasses in basketball.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
  • @hoopvision68 you have by far this coolest channel/content I have ever come across. Keep up the good work!

    @kushdaddyblaze7@kushdaddyblaze72 жыл бұрын
  • Nice breakdown. I always loved the defensive side of the ball. This is awesome.

    @whitneymacdonald4396@whitneymacdonald43962 жыл бұрын
  • As a Carleton student this was really cool to see!

    @daltondouthwright3975@daltondouthwright39753 жыл бұрын
  • I’m Canadian (from Ottawa) and before COVID I went to games all the time great team fun to watch I actually remember Smart he seemed like a great coach

    @Noah-xr9jl@Noah-xr9jl2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome friggin video. Absolutely love it. Thanks for this

    @alf2540@alf25403 жыл бұрын
  • I love the concept/principle of making the pass 'on target on time' very difficult and focusing on that notion. With my kids, I'm not sure I could get them all on the same page enough to execute this but I think I'll try this out a bit - currently we run a variation of the packline and our founding principle is "keep the ball out of the paint" and we help early, front the low post, and help all the way to the midline from the weakside and it's yielded great results. We've also tried the a "box" defense where the concept is never allow a ball reversal, once they choose a side of the floor, deny passes or drives to the other side and push the available floor (the box) to the corner to where it shrinks over and over until they have little space to operate or stuck in the corner.

    @bbcoachlara@bbcoachlara3 жыл бұрын
  • Great research and analysis. Really well made video

    @3again1999@3again19993 жыл бұрын
  • THANK YOU for putting respect on my country 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

    @RoseCityRebel@RoseCityRebel3 жыл бұрын
  • I loved the “shock and under” scheme. Makes a lot of sense. Genius

    @divad23@divad232 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, we want more U sports hoop videos coach!

    @gamemonsterr@gamemonsterr3 жыл бұрын
  • the "K" in Carleton stands for "Quality"

    @grege5074@grege50743 жыл бұрын
    • My brother went to carleton and im going to play on the basketball team that quote is so funny

      @danielballer9043@danielballer90433 жыл бұрын
    • "Last Chance U" lol

      @kiroolioneaver8532@kiroolioneaver85323 жыл бұрын
    • For the uninitiated; in Ontario all universities have a friendly rivalry and we all make fun of each other If you can walk and talk, go to Brock If you can walk faster, go to McMaster Laurier is the "high school down the street" from Waterwoo

      @grege5074@grege50743 жыл бұрын
    • @@grege5074 "hold a fork/go to York"; Try Real Education Next Time (Trent)

      @kiroolioneaver8532@kiroolioneaver85323 жыл бұрын
    • Greg E is there one for uOttawa?

      @mkobd@mkobd3 жыл бұрын
  • The meta of any game is typically very slow to change. Its rare to have a sudden dramatic shift in playstyle. What ends up happening instead are a lot of small innovations that over time define a new meta. Things like this defense, or chip kellys fast football offense with the ducks in the early 2010s are really fun and entertaining to watch because they really do change the entire game in an instant, giving us something totally new and exciting.

    @coachmcguirk6297@coachmcguirk62973 жыл бұрын
  • People like Dave Smart are why I practiced to become a fully-ambidextrous player

    @ScottyShaw@ScottyShaw3 жыл бұрын
    • Being good at your left and right hand is necessary

      @abc-hl8jx@abc-hl8jx9 ай бұрын
    • ​@@abc-hl8jxnot as much as youd think. Even at the nba player players are pretty strong hand dominant. And it makes sense No matter how good you get at your offhand, chances are your strong hand is still better so why its still best to use it significantly more. The offhand becomes more of a counter rather than a primary playstle.

      @jojoprocess2820@jojoprocess28204 ай бұрын
  • Yall gone blow up. Watch it. Market urselves as a huge company and u will be huge one day. So much work and analytics went into this

    @danl914@danl9143 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video, I really enjoyed that. My grandfather played at Carlton back in the day and used to tell me all about his days as a collegiate basketball player and it inspired me to become one when I was presented the opportunity. Do you have a video about their offensive game? Their defense is great, but what methods do they use to score the ball effectively

    @jacksonwhitley8205@jacksonwhitley82053 жыл бұрын
  • ayy carleton ravens are the best... represent ottawa

    @peternelles3170@peternelles31703 жыл бұрын
    • I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS CAN YOU PLEASE STOP TYPING LIKE THIS AND MAKING DUMBASS EXCUSES FOR AMERICAN TEAMS THAT SHOULD PLAY AT EXTREMELY HIGH LEVELS! AMERICAN TEAMS LITERALLY HAVE ALL OF THE BEST CANADIAN PLAYERS AND CANADA HAS RANDOS

      @rory_M@rory_M3 жыл бұрын
    • @@rory_M very cool

      @snaykhead8857@snaykhead88573 жыл бұрын
    • @@rory_M then how come Carleton beat these d1 teams?

      @baller1831@baller18312 жыл бұрын
  • Love the video. Very well done.

    @Comedy-Cult@Comedy-Cult3 жыл бұрын
  • I have seen Carleton play courtside. It's poetry.

    @Amardeep248@Amardeep2483 жыл бұрын
  • More and more U Sports teams are starting to compete (and win) against D1 & D2 programs with a fraction of the infrastructures and $. But, none are dominating like Carleton. Imagine if the Ravens had the tools of the biggest NCAA programs.

    @david.tousignant20@david.tousignant203 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS I attended multiple NCAA-U Sports exhibition games. When Duke played McGill. All of their starters played their minutes when the game was still on the line. RJ Barrett and Zion Williamson went berserk in the first half. The coaches of the South Florida and Quinnipiac universities, while playing University Laval, didn't disturbed their rotations minutes neither. Next time, you should took the time to watch those games or look at the Boxscore...

      @david.tousignant20@david.tousignant203 жыл бұрын
    • @AA Sharp You think players like Zion Williamson and Coach Krzyzewski aren't taken their game against McGill seriously? I was there. Zion Williamson finished with 36 points, 12 rebounds and three blocks. The intensity displayed by Duke's players was incredible. They did take it seriously. Because, after 4 minutes of play, McGill was ahead, until a McGill player started to trash talk RJ Barrett (if I remember correctly). I'm not saying U Sports teams would compete against the top tier D1 teams.

      @david.tousignant20@david.tousignant203 жыл бұрын
    • Well in volleyball trinity western and u of a absolutely dogged UCLA, if Hawaii played trinity last year they woulda lost

      @jackmcg8310@jackmcg83103 жыл бұрын
  • I audibly gasped when I saw that Shock coverage, so creative!

    @mrlbird33@mrlbird333 жыл бұрын
    • I read this ahead of time and thought you were exaggerating until I literally did the same thing when I saw it 😂

      @conlanchastain3708@conlanchastain37083 жыл бұрын
    • Isn't "shock coverage" just hedge and recover? Similar to how UVA covers on-ball screens?

      @clevefisher5726@clevefisher57263 жыл бұрын
    • @@clevefisher5726 Hedge and Recover the guard typically chases over top of the screen instead of going under. The role of the big is similar between the two coverage's though

      @aledjones7454@aledjones74543 жыл бұрын
    • Interesting coverage that I haven't really seen much of before, thinking offensively how to take advantage of it, if the ball handler waited a split second and allowed his defender to go under and onto the other side of the ball screen, couldn't they then just have the big immediately twist and re-screen and you would have both defenders on the wrong side of the ball screen?

      @aledjones7454@aledjones74543 жыл бұрын
    • Love this video and I agree that's the part that caught my eye. I was hoping he elaborated

      @XWDaniel@XWDaniel3 жыл бұрын
  • I remember going to the 2019 Capital Hoops Classic back when I was a student at the rival school uOttawa. I honestly admire how good of a basketball team Carleton is despite my Gee-Gees getting destroyed. Their women's team we beat tho, so that was satisfying to watch. Plus we beat the men's team in the latest game in 2020 LETS GOOO!

    @tooforwon241@tooforwon2412 жыл бұрын
  • We tried to use this when coach Smart was with the Canadian National Team. It worked good when we could communicate and not screw up, but lots of guys weren't used to it. Being cohesive was more important, and because it's an unusual defensive strategy most players aren't able to do consistently. Huge respect to coach Smart, good to see him getting some recognition.

    @archetypicalmind@archetypicalmind3 жыл бұрын
    • Ok yeah, this video wasn't making sense to me. Does it require multiple years to learn the system? A unique level of intelligence? If Jay Wright was confused then how are Carleton's players getting it? A disciplined "force left, don't overhelp" with some quirks is really about the limit of what you can do in most cases unless you have genius level players and take a lot of time teaching them.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
    • What were the parts you guys were having the hardest time with? And do you think if you were given more time with it that it would be effective? Also, was Smart able to recognize it was too much to absorb quickly and wasn't really working?

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
    • @@johntallanger4036 it was a combination of things, the biggest factor was probably just time practicing that system. Most guys have played most types of defence and have drilled enough to know the help rotations depending on what the team is doing, but not enough of the team were able to adjust. The most important player in this defence is the on ball defender, the rest of the team can adjust based on what he's doing. If the guy on the ball doesn't force left then if a pick comes or if he gets beat right, then the whole defence has to adjust and it's usually a delayed reaction that chains down the line as the guys try and recover and no one knows for sure what the others guys are going to do. First help, mostly a big in a pick and roll situation, is out of position and so he's either got to try and switch or gives up a shot, the 2nd helper who would be taking the roller doesn't know if there's going to be a switch or not either doesn't get there in time for the roller, or he does, but then leaves the skip pass open because the guard on the ball either switched onto the big or chased his man. It got to the point that when we had to adjust like that, the other team had their way and could pick us apart. We were better off just picking one defence everyone knew and sticking with it.. the problem was we had been practicing the force left system the whole time. It was a good defence when everyone was on the same page..so yeah it was mostly just an issue of time spend practicing it.

      @archetypicalmind@archetypicalmind2 жыл бұрын
    • @@archetypicalmind Thanks. What you described is mostly my read on it. At the end of the day it seems like it's just a force left system but where he drills to death to execute that component of it. Once everyone on the team forces everything left every single time without a question then you have something to work with. At that point such a new pattern of play has been created that any wrinkles and complications you add will look and sound genius. But getting everyone to do it correctly ever time is the bitch of the thing. You could probably do a "force right" defense too and if you can get everyone to do it every single time it'll work.

      @johntallanger4036@johntallanger40362 жыл бұрын
    • @@johntallanger4036 you could drill any defence to death and it will work mechanically.. I think the reason force left has been so successful for Smart is that statistically players are weaker with the ball in their left hand.. satistically worse at passing one handed left, driving hard and finish left, that kind of thing. When it's done successfully the ball will get pushed into the corner and you can shoot gaps for passes / over play the first pass because any skip passed will be lobbed or off target. It's been a while but I think this video was for highschool, so the players being weaker left would be even more apparent in this set up.

      @archetypicalmind@archetypicalmind2 жыл бұрын
  • Go Ravens! Proud to be a Carleton student.

    @tristantoledo6866@tristantoledo68663 жыл бұрын
  • Great vid!

    @bigl9316@bigl93163 жыл бұрын
  • I've see these guys play in pre-season games before, and they play fast, disciplined and hard from the start. Great to watch.

    @CA.....@CA.....3 жыл бұрын
  • This is sick!!! I play hockey at Carleton U

    @zeekhop5380@zeekhop53802 жыл бұрын
  • One discussion missing from here is how different the Canadian and US systems of college basketball are (example: how different recruiting works or the lack of scholarships in Canada). Obviously, that discussion is worth a separate video.

    @OttawaRocks@OttawaRocks3 жыл бұрын
  • I love concepts like this its similar to like the miracle on ice like a completely different style of play that jusy wins

    @Kelburne63@Kelburne633 жыл бұрын
  • As a kid in Nova Scotia Canada, I'm not surprised by what Carleton can do. Also, my coach uses this force left defensive strategy as well

    @navarregallant4797@navarregallant47972 жыл бұрын
  • I remember playing against Carleton like 20 years ago…they were the only team that always forced me right…which was totally the right way to play me…my pull up and passing game when I go right was way weaker even though I was right handed…really good strategy and great scouting / film analysis

    @bryanmatthews9591@bryanmatthews95914 ай бұрын
  • Great video!

    @RBenyaminov@RBenyaminov3 жыл бұрын
  • I went to Carleton during their reign of terror and only saw a few games they were tbh a little boring because we were so dominant. I also played HS ball in Canada and the rumor was that Smart hooked up Canadians with D1 schools in the states so he didn't have to play against them.

    @javenwilson5985@javenwilson59852 жыл бұрын
  • Never thought anything good, basketballwise, would ever come out of Ottawa. Go Ravens!

    @EddieFonzarelli@EddieFonzarelli3 жыл бұрын
  • Yessirrrr canada stays being slept on

    @jaredgould788@jaredgould7883 жыл бұрын
    • Fax saw ryerson vs Duke and it was hype

      @brandonw6139@brandonw61393 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS 🧢

      @antoniofelix1620@antoniofelix16203 жыл бұрын
  • 3:20 is interesting because he’s now an Assistant coach at Texas Tech.

    @jathbr4113@jathbr41139 ай бұрын
  • I didn't know this university or this defensive scheme existed, but I came up with almost the same thing when drawing the one for my teams.

    @franciscosamir5256@franciscosamir52562 жыл бұрын
  • I love that he incorporates personnel and scouting reports in his defensive philosophy. I watch nba coaches sometimes not understand wthell they're doing defensively and I can't believe they are coaching at the highest levels. Esp since milwaukee has shown how to frustrate harden and then you see teams still get killed by him, makes no sense

    @KevinSar@KevinSar3 жыл бұрын
  • That's a good defensive play style, I think a motion offense with lots of off ball movement may work well against it in my personal experience playing OCAA basketball

    @coryernewein@coryernewein3 жыл бұрын
  • "On target on time" is a great coach phrase...

    @richardtaylor6341@richardtaylor63412 жыл бұрын
  • Yay !!!! My Uni !!!! You rock!!!

    @lamzy3773@lamzy37733 жыл бұрын
  • I wish my youth team could come and watch them practice. It be such a great experience.

    @onthesideline-coachprevost1116@onthesideline-coachprevost11166 ай бұрын
  • I live in ottawa and this team is crazy to watch in person

    @bobjeffers4614@bobjeffers46143 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly

      @itchyonion3559@itchyonion35593 жыл бұрын
  • his defense resembles frank martin's defense a ton. Especially the two teams he had from 2015-2017

    @NES8312@NES83123 жыл бұрын
  • Thumbs up for the San Diego State defense shout out! #GOAZTECS

    @carltonhill6079@carltonhill60793 жыл бұрын
  • My Kentucky is playing them this Saturday in Bahamas

    @pqh32@pqh32 Жыл бұрын
  • Put the top 4 Canadian team in the NCAA toury

    @anthonysprott650@anthonysprott6503 жыл бұрын
    • I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS stop ruining the Comments

      @FennyWhopper@FennyWhopper3 жыл бұрын
    • @I RUIN YOUR COMMENTS all made up. They werent bench warmers at all. Salty American spotted.

      @DontBeClueless514@DontBeClueless5143 жыл бұрын
    • @@DontBeClueless514 it's a troll account read the name not salt

      @realSanta420@realSanta4203 жыл бұрын
    • Or maybe top 1?

      @RogerPack@RogerPack3 жыл бұрын
    • The reason we should is..... 1. They can hang 2. Slices things up, giving fans a unique fan experience. 3. Opens up having the “final four” in a Toronto or Vancouver.

      @anthonysprott650@anthonysprott6503 жыл бұрын
  • I'm a New Yorker who played for a Canadian school, Dalhousie University, back in the early 1970s. I see that Dalhousie got to the Canadian finals this year where they lost by 9 to, guess who, Carleton. Go Dal! What I like about the shock and go under is that the guard who goes under can hold up the screener rolling to the basket so that the big defender can more easily get back to the screener. If the big defender (the shocker) does a good enough job on the ballhandler, the ballhandler should have to loop away from the basket momentarily. This should allow the small defender to get back to the ballhandler before a shot goes up. One thing I noticed about the passers in this video. They all passed on the run. That got them in trouble. Coming to a jump stop before making the pass should help with not turning the ball over as it allows for greater body control/balance.

    @robertblount1377@robertblount13773 жыл бұрын
    • Fellow Dal alum alum here. Dal lead after three quarters and then Carleton poured it on in the last 10 minutes or so. :(

      @RoryMacLellan@RoryMacLellan3 жыл бұрын
    • You can say stuff like that about jump stops like an old high school coach, but on a dead ball in the paint, the trap/double/triple is coming instantly. There isn't enough shooting and spacing for the ball handler to be slowing down decision making like that.

      @jungroan@jungroan3 жыл бұрын
    • @@jungroan , disagree. Knowing that traps are coming instantly gives you the foreknowledge/plan of what to do before it happens. You are prepared going into the situation. When you have 3 point shooters everywhere, when you know where they are rotating to, and you have fundamental skill, it makes it easy. Coming to a stop after drawing a double allows you to make a trapping defense pay over and over. If you don't come to a stop you better see something that tells you that your pass is a done deal. Also, there is plenty of shooting and volumes of spacing in today's game - way more than there used to be.

      @r.forrestblount9222@r.forrestblount92223 жыл бұрын
  • carleton is a basketball powerhouse

    @ssk-_-dotz3773@ssk-_-dotz37733 жыл бұрын
  • great video!

    @lucamacchiavello8502@lucamacchiavello85023 жыл бұрын
  • LETS GO OTOWN!

    @tacmaster7887@tacmaster78873 жыл бұрын
    • It’s BYTOWN

      @gordieevans2263@gordieevans22633 жыл бұрын
  • If college hockey had an audience like college basketball, there'd be a video like this about UNB and Gardiner MacDougall.

    @francoeurtim@francoeurtim3 жыл бұрын
  • These guys have been so under the radar!

    @CourticalHoops@CourticalHoops3 жыл бұрын
  • Great video

    @HammerFitness1@HammerFitness13 жыл бұрын
  • Ravens representing ! 613 comin in hot!!!

    @MagicCityFLA@MagicCityFLA3 жыл бұрын
  • It is Canadian University where student athletes are expected to be students and graduate Carlton has some tough teams to play during their season like University of Ottawa and Ryerson in Toronto.

    @waynemcfarlane9175@waynemcfarlane91753 жыл бұрын
  • Let’s go Ravens baby!! 4 championships in the 4 years I was there! Proud alum!!

    @CODGOLFER19@CODGOLFER193 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome. 👏🏾👏🏾

    @charles-ps6qh@charles-ps6qh3 жыл бұрын
  • I go to this school. Great place to study.

    @theironrhino110@theironrhino1103 жыл бұрын
  • Yooo I go to Carleton I didn’t even know the ball team went so hard🔥🔥

    @alexanderstefanidis5169@alexanderstefanidis51693 жыл бұрын
  • Would like to see this team vs this years auburn team. Very good guard play at AU

    @troygt2182@troygt21823 жыл бұрын
  • Fellow Canadians, I think we can all agree this is the most interesting thing that happens in Ottawa Like how are u the capital of Canada and take a backseat to every other major Canadian city

    @fusionsauze713@fusionsauze7133 жыл бұрын
  • Is the shock and under coverage the same as hedging a pick and roll??

    @joshsmart541@joshsmart5413 жыл бұрын
  • This is a great account

    @nicjunker7707@nicjunker77073 жыл бұрын
  • Seems like something that would work for a time but would get figured out at the higher ncaa levels if it was seen at the national level like once everybody started to see what VCU was doing with their overwhelm style of play before they got figured out.

    @korreaction7296@korreaction72962 жыл бұрын
  • Had no idea this defensive scheme existed. Probably takes very smart players to do well

    @hb3528@hb35283 жыл бұрын
    • It's not uncommon for their newer players to sit multiple years before contributing. Something really interesting is that Carleton have always been able to turn "underwhelming" players into contributors by the end of their eligibility, which is a sign of both smart/willing to learn players as well as very strong coaching. It's between ridiculous and boring just how strong they are every year. In the end, many players actually go on to play for our national team or in Europe, they're just obviously not nearly as gifted athletically or they'd be attending an American college with NBA aspirations.

      @serendipitys2970@serendipitys29703 жыл бұрын
  • Good strategy for college level players who go through American high school systems and only use their right hand. Wouldn't translate well to the NBA tho because too many players practice their left and can shoot from long range. The solution is for high school players to practice and train using their left then the jig is up. But it would be interesting for other coaches to emulate the system. His closeout to the weak hand could translate to the NBA in some situations.

    @cavaleer@cavaleer3 жыл бұрын
  • This is literally lacrosse defense implemented really well. Not a surprise a Canadian team was able to perfect it.

    @garrettdebuse9476@garrettdebuse94762 жыл бұрын
  • Carleton represent

    @xtraweivy@xtraweivy3 жыл бұрын
  • Ayyy I go to Carleton sick seeing my school ha ha everyone loves basketball here

    @mkdeluxe6239@mkdeluxe62393 жыл бұрын
    • lol u still get slapped in the panda game tho 💀💀💀💀

      @OhNightfall@OhNightfall3 жыл бұрын
  • Used to go to carleton camps - got one of the players to explain this scheme. He said its all about making them make bad passes

    @jacoblowenberg2160@jacoblowenberg216010 ай бұрын
  • Great video man, you could make the white text slightly smaller

    @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls@AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls3 жыл бұрын
  • I live in ottawa and this team won 16 straight USports championships

    @bobjeffers4614@bobjeffers46143 жыл бұрын
  • At the highschool I coach at in Canada we do the same defence except we don’t let them go middle on us, help only if needed, rotate away from the ball and play as if you are a safety in football splitting 2 deep routes in your zone.

    @The_biggest_P@The_biggest_P2 жыл бұрын
    • Mid range jump shots and lay ups from outside the key are the shots you’ll give up but those are the hardest shots in basketball!

      @The_biggest_P@The_biggest_P2 жыл бұрын
    • We always say turn the guy your defending into a passer

      @The_biggest_P@The_biggest_P2 жыл бұрын
  • Smart is getting his chance at USA D1 ball head coaching. Univ. of Pacific.

    @courtsidemanor1096@courtsidemanor1096Ай бұрын
  • Great video! This is coming from a casual NBA fan, but do the Lakers use a sort of similar defensive tactic? I felt that, from the games I saw, that they were trying to influence players to move a certain way and the result was a bunch of inaccurate or botched passes.

    @tropicarls@tropicarls3 жыл бұрын
  • the most dominate college sports team of all time in my opinion. great to see carleton get some respect. i know its in canada but still impressive

    @chrisdesante1068@chrisdesante10683 жыл бұрын
    • Honestly the women’s UConn basketball program the last decade or so might have been more dominant

      @bobertportis4841@bobertportis48413 жыл бұрын
  • As a Canadian, it's nice to know we have a program on this level. Basketball has always been a lesser sport up here, and we get absolutely no high school or college coverage

    @Awesummzzz@Awesummzzz2 жыл бұрын
  • My city finally getting some love

    @aarongilboa3081@aarongilboa30813 жыл бұрын
  • That south Dakota State team was one of the best SDSU teams ever.

    @gopherfan118@gopherfan1183 жыл бұрын
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