HELLDIVERS 2 - You Can Take Down Gunships Easily

2024 ж. 25 Сәу.
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It's not that complicated.

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  • I think the problem with gunships is not necessarily the gunships themselfes but all the other things next to them shooting at you and hindering you while you‘re trying to focus them

    @Blaz1ng_Phoen1X@Blaz1ng_Phoen1X24 күн бұрын
    • It's definitely a pain when you get stuck in a bot drop cycle. I was in one myself not long ago.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
    • I hate how they target hell bombs. They should only target me. Other bots fine, sure, but let the gun ships only target me please.

      @NorraProtoGen@NorraProtoGen23 күн бұрын
    • No, it's the gunships. There's only a handful of weapons that are good against them and most of those are call downs that can get stranded near the tower

      @kamikeserpentail3778@kamikeserpentail377823 күн бұрын
  • I love taking the Las cannon for gunships despite its drawbacks. I use it to become the dedicated AA squadmate, and only ever pull it out again to backstab a tank, hulk, or cannon turret. Its much more like an opportunistic utility tool then a dedicated weapon.

    @aroguespartan7627@aroguespartan762724 күн бұрын
    • People sleep on the lascannon but it's incredible.

      @DarkCatfish@DarkCatfish24 күн бұрын
    • It’s also great for surgically removing the arms and legs (and eyeslits) off hulks, the faces off of devastators and even the legs off of chicken walkers. I tend to pick it over the autocannon at the moment. (Yes the time to kill isn’t great but it can deal with most opponents if you can keep your aim steady and it can do so with functionally limitless ammo - I also run it with shields to provide some stagger resistance.)

      @AeciusthePhilosopher@AeciusthePhilosopher24 күн бұрын
    • Pair it with a personal shield and you can easily do what I do, running it as your primary!

      @fl4shblade@fl4shblade23 күн бұрын
    • The laser cannon also can kill factory striders from a distance. It's better than the autocannon in my books for sure. About even with anti-material rifle due to the devestator match up.

      @flygawnebardoflight@flygawnebardoflight23 күн бұрын
  • I'll say that the laser cannon has been working really well for me on level 7, though I've also been fighting on a cold planet. It's got a really nice crowd clear aspect to it, if you sweep across a crowd at head level, and I've had pretty decent luck vs Hulks and tanks with it.

    @henrybartholomew5383@henrybartholomew538323 күн бұрын
    • It will definitely work in helldive. It can kill every target available. It is still the third best weapon. However, it's dwarfed by the effectiveness of the other two.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • For bots I use the autocannon a lot. The stationary reload just means I get to really learn how cover works. There is a beauty to the minigame of putting solid objects between you and the enemy.

    @GnarledStaff@GnarledStaff24 күн бұрын
  • Gunships are the one thing that make me hate using quasar. The cooldown on it means you're 100% gonna get a volley of rockets on your location. I would switch to the auto cannon or anti mat if I didn't want be able to take outposts out from a distance and run a jump pack

    @2iqplays@2iqplays24 күн бұрын
    • You could try the eruptor or grenade pistol.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
    • I bring the AMR and the EA-Ts. Bot drop detected? Calling in EA-Ts. Coming up on a base? Calling in EA-Ts. Wanna save nades and need to blow up a fabricator? EA-Ts beacon through the door. Fabricator walker? Call in EA-Ts, pot shot face guns with AMR before delivery, grab the two rockets and try to disable the back cannon, run around a bit killing chaff and devastators while waiting on cooldown, call in more, save the team who are maining quasars and auto cannons, be a big damn hero.

      @themarlboromandalorian@themarlboromandalorian23 күн бұрын
  • Smoke to protect the Hell-bomb.

    @fibodegjenn4411@fibodegjenn441124 күн бұрын
    • I really need to use the smoke shells/strikes.

      @conradshtock3039@conradshtock303924 күн бұрын
    • Smoke nades are all you need

      @franswaafranswaa5026@franswaafranswaa502624 күн бұрын
    • Smoke nades would be good if they didn't replace my impacts.

      @themarlboromandalorian@themarlboromandalorian23 күн бұрын
    • @@themarlboromandalorian nade pistol

      @franswaafranswaa5026@franswaafranswaa502623 күн бұрын
    • ​@@franswaafranswaa5026 if only it didn't replace my machine pistol

      @Brain-dead-gamer@Brain-dead-gamer20 күн бұрын
  • The night vision filter looks sick that should be an armor passive or something bro

    @ilovewaffles321@ilovewaffles32124 күн бұрын
    • Lmao imagine they add cloaker armour

      @heakhaek@heakhaek24 күн бұрын
    • I think it would be nice on certain scopes.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior or for those damn fog missions

      @ilovewaffles321@ilovewaffles32124 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ilovewaffles321 for fog? I'd say thermal

      @Cabrera1027@Cabrera102724 күн бұрын
    • @@Cabrera1027 those foggy missions always fuck me up bro I need something to help with it fr

      @ilovewaffles321@ilovewaffles32124 күн бұрын
  • That sass combined with your generally positive demeaner was an interesting combo.

    @GnarledStaff@GnarledStaff24 күн бұрын
    • In my defense, the video pretty much deleted itself the first go around. I was less than thrilled.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
  • Sorry, but I don’t like the night vision filter. I like seeing the footage clearly.

    @cyberelf@cyberelf24 күн бұрын
  • My worst enemy ever is poor preparation and bad aim. Also I keep dropping my supports on the factories because I keep dying at them and trying to re-up AT the factory. This video helped me see why my current strategy and load out are bad, time to make some much needed changes. Thanks for the insight, Jebbs

    @Thr4kus@Thr4kus6 күн бұрын
  • I do have a counter point to the autocannon taking away a backpack slot, taking away that slot gives you additional stratagem slot that the backpack would take up. Its not for everyone but its a not a pure negative

    @Credenak@Credenak24 күн бұрын
    • Great content as always

      @Credenak@Credenak24 күн бұрын
    • I never considered it that way. I suppose it does somewhat work out then.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
    • @JebblesJunior My go to loadout for bots atm is autocannon, shield generator, 500kg and airstrike. Gives me a versatile options for all scenarios. Speaking of the shield generator its a very option for dealing with gunships also, firstly as giving you a moment in time to clear the sky safely, and secondly, the dome protecting the hellbomb means that gunships cant kill it.

      @Credenak@Credenak23 күн бұрын
  • The autocannon sentry does a pretty good job as well

    @coleostimie9725@coleostimie972523 күн бұрын
  • I used to main the autocannon, and I loved it. Picked up the AMR during that daily order a while back, and I absolutely fell in love with it for bots. AC is still great! I just enjoy the AMR more these days.

    @SlungBlade@SlungBlade18 күн бұрын
  • bro sounds like troy baker’s revolver ocelot

    @BigTone121@BigTone12124 күн бұрын
    • That sentence got more confusing after every word.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior they're correct, you sound like revolver ocelot from MGSV

      @golevka@golevka23 күн бұрын
  • Gunships are easy until you have an annihilator tank deployed because the gunship passed your location along to the little guys at the base of the factory, broiling you in combat while a second gunship spawns and is able to blow you out of cover.

    @flygawnebardoflight@flygawnebardoflight23 күн бұрын
    • Last night I was doing double fabricators and kept having to deal with the usual helldive hulk patrols.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • 4:10 I think the laser cannon's niche is against static objectives. Bunker, mortar, turrets... Along with teammates who are ammo-hungry and clear well. Free bullets aren't worth much if some ammo packs are left for you after the group's eaten their share.

    @MrBlbll@MrBlbll24 күн бұрын
  • Usually run with scout passive med armour, amr, plasma punisher, senator, impacts, EA-Ts, orbital laser, and ems mortars. Can usually get around the map without too much issue, and can handle most everything. Hulks end up being about the worst part. And factory striders. Drone factories aren't too bad if the teammates aren't schmucks.

    @themarlboromandalorian@themarlboromandalorian23 күн бұрын
  • This is relaxing content

    @oscarglad5284@oscarglad528424 күн бұрын
  • I love it when you upload

    @eyiss7236@eyiss723624 күн бұрын
  • While its absolutely fair to prefer the AMR over the AC I don't feel like comparing the AC to a double stratagem combo is fair at all due to the opportunity cost especially considering that one of the three automaton operation modifiers reduces your stratagem slots to 3. Without the supply pack the AMR has ammo economy issues only holding 6+1 magazines with 7+1 bullets in them and resupplies only 1 mag per ammo box and 3 mags per supply brick (the ship module that gives full ammo is still bugged). 7 ammo per magazine without an extra round chambered from the previous one combined with a 4 shot breakpoint means you can't even kill both gunships without reloading. The AC on the other hand has 10+2 clips with 5 rounds each that kill gunships with only 2 shots and resupply for 2 clips per ammo box and 5 clips per supply brick so 20% more max ammo and between 17 to 35% more efficient resupplies on top of having up to 100% lower breakpoints against a few enemies. You lose out on extra stims but with the exception of lobbing impact grenades behind a tank to kill it from the front you can use the AC for everything you would need an impact grenade for and it lets you take stun grenades without sacrificing much of anything. (and you can kill tanks without a clear shot at its vents by shooting the side of their turret with the Scorcher or using the extra Eagle/Orbital that you can take thanks to the extra open stratagem slot, edit: or use impacts anyway but reserve them for tanks and use the AC for other stuff) Both weapons have their strengths and weaknesses but the autocannon is extremely efficient for its cost, so much so that Im afraid it might get nerfed.

    @Shacklez@Shacklez24 күн бұрын
    • And for me personally the fact that the AC has a hipfire reticle and is very accurate with recoil reduction armor makes it very appealing because I really don't like losing my peripheral vision.

      @Shacklez@Shacklez24 күн бұрын
    • Like I said, I definitely encourage others to use that one and make up their own mind on it. There's undoubtably a place for it in a lot of loadouts. I do see an uproar coming in the future when it inevitably gets tweaked.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • I'm praying for a Helldivers/Battletech crossover so that Jebbles and Tex can do a collab and prove that they aren't the same person. Great video!

    @CharlesUrban@CharlesUrban24 күн бұрын
  • The laser cannon has been the go to Support Weapon for Bots for me. Unless I plan on playing close range with the Arc Thrower which is also strong now, the Laser cannon does what the Autocannon does but without a pack and has infinite ammo. The only drawback is it can't deal with mediums as well as the AC or Fabs. The cannon deals with Hulks (more easily than you think, just shoot their legs off which is super fast and ez eye hole shot) , Tanks, turrets and Gunships. It can also be used for the Devastators but the Dominator and Scorcher are better for that role. Now, if there is a Factory Strider... Yeah you're dead but that's why you have a dude who uses a Quasar.

    @speedyazi5029@speedyazi502918 күн бұрын
  • Using the slugger's reload/shoot "glitch" with the senator.... I hadn't thought of that!! Intriguing....

    @kurtisdeakin@kurtisdeakin23 күн бұрын
  • I wish the railgun took the gunships down easier.

    @Suhayl_Khatib@Suhayl_Khatib23 күн бұрын
  • Short answer: autocannon Long answer: a fucking autocannon

    @IsaacChoo88@IsaacChoo887 күн бұрын
  • Always when papa helldiver posts

    @-snare-@-snare-24 күн бұрын
  • great vid, AMR is the bot melter for sure

    @golevka@golevka23 күн бұрын
  • One word: Autocannon

    @SuperGoose42@SuperGoose4223 күн бұрын
  • Funny enough, the method I have personally used would be shield generator relay. I find it fun to just run and throwing one near the gunship factory and putting a hellbomb inside of it has been my fun/ let me solo it approach. lately I don't use backpack slot to often because I prefer to run recoiless or autocannon. Edit, I was also one of the people who would use the scorcher to shootdown gunships, by aiming for the cockpit.

    @sonicx059@sonicx05923 күн бұрын
    • It's definitely viable. I don't use it on account of only being still for three seconds at a time like a squirrel.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • Any thoughts on the HMG now that is has a 3rd person reticle? The red dot is still off though. I'm trying to find alternatives to the AC and AMR.

    @HarryVoyager@HarryVoyager9 күн бұрын
    • It's a lot more pleasant now, but it's still lackluster for gunships.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior9 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior Ok, cool. Yeah, I'm one of those masochists who wants to run Knight/HMG combos against bots... Edit: HMG + DCS/Diligence or AMR + burpgun. Just had a map with wide open spaces, and nothing that could take out Devastators at range. That was not good.

      @HarryVoyager@HarryVoyager9 күн бұрын
  • Question out of the two new stratagems we're fighting for in this major order which do you think would be better? The anti tank mines or the airburst rocket launcher

    @The_fastfreddy@The_fastfreddy24 күн бұрын
    • They both sound gimmicky. But having a mine field you don't gotta worry about stepping in might be nice. Don't think airburst is gonna be great for what's in the air. When are we getting that quad fly by wire launcher?

      @themarlboromandalorian@themarlboromandalorian23 күн бұрын
    • They're both not that awesome to me if I'm being real. It's definitely the airburst though. It's not as situational as anti-tank mines and you don't need to lure targets into it.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • I use Spear + EAT combo for everything however I barely leave enough resupplies for my teammates. The positive is that I clear all gunships, Hulks and tanks for teammates.

    @TurkMovement@TurkMovement23 күн бұрын
  • Me generally with a Spear: "Do I really want to waste a precious rocket on this?"

    @jalontf2@jalontf223 күн бұрын
  • On the ReShade front, I've been working on adapting an awesome nightvision preset with a toggleable ECOTI module with some folks. So far we've got sets for green, white, amber, red, and white filmless tubes. If you're interested I can get the files packed up for sharing.

    @zovcy@zovcy23 күн бұрын
    • If you're cool with it I would absolutely love to mess around with em myself, been trying to get a good nvg shader going as I predominantly play night missions!

      @pennyp.1224@pennyp.122423 күн бұрын
    • I'm trying to progress this one myself in efforts to get better at editing as a whole. I do appreciate the offer though.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • Thoughts on turrets? I often take the Autocannon turrets as distractions when playing solo and have found that setting them up on the slope opposite them to direct their fire is pretty good cover for both the bots in the base and is more accurate than I am to distract and drop the gunships. Just need it to be far enough to not get immediately rocketed into the ground by the gunships.

    @FailcopterWes@FailcopterWes21 күн бұрын
    • I've seen mixed results. I think it's definitely more useful in solo play. If not for the damage at least it's a distraction.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior21 күн бұрын
  • My issue is that I dont always bring a weapon that can deal with them. I usually take other stratagems to fill the gaps but gunships dont really have anything other than support weapons that are effective against them. Autocannon turret I think can deal with them but they usually target ground enemies

    @ObliviousNaga@ObliviousNaga24 күн бұрын
    • If you ping an enemy the Sentry will prioritise that target unless it is already shooting at something. So the second you see a ship, deploy a sentry and then quickly ping it

      @speedyazi5029@speedyazi502918 күн бұрын
  • Autocannon is the best imo. two shots to the thruster, and it's goodnight.

    @stevenobrien7686@stevenobrien768623 күн бұрын
  • how do you feel EATs go against gunships? seems like they'd be pretty decent at the very least bc it calls down 2, so you can shoot both gunships that spawn and then blow up the facility afterwards

    @sagedragon12@sagedragon1223 күн бұрын
    • I would say it's up to chance. If you get double gunship spawners the will outnumber you faster than you can get them back off cooldown showing up in groups of 4. If you manage to only get one and act quickly you'll be ok.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • Only take the laser cannon if your accurate against all other bots. Its rewarding, if you can aim.

    @I401@I40123 күн бұрын
  • Controversial take, Spear is actually really good at taking out Gunships. It one shots them and can track through the weird dodges the Gunship take. The only real downside is the slow reload and that can be mitigated with a buddy reload. Also I supposed you lack enough ammo if the first hellbomb gets taken out and you have to stick around longer than the initial assault.

    @greywhizzadventurer8535@greywhizzadventurer853523 күн бұрын
    • I considered them until I saw one miss a gunship on three different passes two days ago.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior Damn that’s insane. So far my spear has never let me down so far but I guess it’s good to know it can fail.

      @greywhizzadventurer8535@greywhizzadventurer853523 күн бұрын
    • @@greywhizzadventurer8535 Bots were also walking through mountains on choepessa that day so it's probably variable.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • Gunships were the sole reason I switched from the AMR to the Auto Cannon. After this vid, I may just switch back.

    @The.David.Robert@The.David.Robert23 күн бұрын
    • If not the autocannon is still very viable.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior I tried going back to the AMR. There’s too much else I need the AC for.

      @The.David.Robert@The.David.Robert23 күн бұрын
  • Night vision filter makes it look like Gears of War.

    @GutsEnjoyer@GutsEnjoyer23 күн бұрын
  • main thing i dislike about them are not the ships themselves... but how bad it is to play with the railgun when it comes to them. takes forever. so stupid how they nerfed it to the ground

    @thirachi5836@thirachi583624 күн бұрын
    • The railgun is in a very weird spot right now. You can one shot a hulk, but heat vent damage is pointless. It seems like it's become a very ineffective weapon against both striders and gunships. If they could tweak it so that it would maybe two shot strider miniguns and two or three shot gunship thrusters(Both in unsafe of course) that would be a fair change to me.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • I’d love to use the amr but I keep running into an issue where my game tanks to 20 fps when I scope in first person

    @capturepointtireland6476@capturepointtireland647624 күн бұрын
    • I unfortunately don't know if that is a game or platform issue.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior honestly thought I was going insane for while before checking f2, I've never heard anyone else mention it so it might be on my end. my pc is kinda whack sometimes

      @capturepointtireland6476@capturepointtireland647620 күн бұрын
  • I think the main complaint of the Autocannon you had is a very strange point to focus on, as your 'build videos' made me start running the Recoilless Rifle for dealing with the big bugs during Estanu runs. But, hey, opinions change all the time, stagnation breeds complacency, and complacency in spreaders of managed democracy is a fascist's wet dream. I definitely need to practice more with the AMR, I've gotten a bit too used to other weapons and my AMR game be lacking.

    @Quarterspine143@Quarterspine14324 күн бұрын
    • It's a bit different as the categories of enemies aren't all that similar. Also I've rotated into the quasar for bugs recently for pack space, but it didn't really exist then. On one hand you need something heavy like an EAT or RR to handle the big bugs and primaries can take everything else. On the other hand with bots you can scale back quite a bit so long as you hit critical points.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
  • Use A Flamethrower

    @Presofcamelot64@Presofcamelot648 күн бұрын
  • 7:10 my five second opinion is if it’s supposed to be NV, it’s gonna need a LOT of film grain. Like more than default Left4Dead film grain.

    @LordofMangoes@LordofMangoes23 күн бұрын
    • I should've done comparative footage too. It was almost pitch black in the original.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • Nah, laser cannon is fine vs bots. You need to take a good primary though. Laser only for hulks, tanks, turrets, gunships, striders. Primary needs to handle everything else to it's face. AMR is too strong vs bots, but weak vs striders. Team reload is strong vs gunships, and keeping double fabricators free of air craft.

    @mindsight9732@mindsight973223 күн бұрын
    • The AMR can take out both strider miniguns in one magazine. It kills striders with a mag or two in the belly which is defenseless without miniguns.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
  • I feel like this video is specifically about me and others like me

    @B1inded@B1inded24 күн бұрын
    • It may well be.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior24 күн бұрын
  • WDYM I suck at it? I'm a pro at it, it's just unfortunat that my mates allways stand under it. 😂

    @JanoschNr1@JanoschNr121 күн бұрын
    • They're just trying to play catch.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior21 күн бұрын
  • Don't like the night vision filter. Plain footage is better.

    @darkchild130@darkchild13023 күн бұрын
  • LASCANNON NAYSAYER. ITS GOOD AT DEALING WITH EVERYTHING BUT FABS AND DROPSHIPS you my good sir have a skill issue. it can consistently drop gunships, pop cannon turrets, tanks, hulks, and is good CC if you have nothing else. yea sure it has downsides, but it also has infinite ammo (when used right) and is an overall swiss army knife

    @biblequotesdaily6618@biblequotesdaily661823 күн бұрын
    • I never said it can't take out gunships, and if quickly breaking heat sinks is the claim to fame that's not good either. Like I said it's cool if laser pointers impress you, but it's mid because a myriad of things do it's job better.

      @JebblesJunior@JebblesJunior23 күн бұрын
    • @@JebblesJunior it also depends on what you're pairing it with, i tend to really like it since it covers whatever job you need it to do. you're also a supply pack main- the lascannon totally misses out on all of its bonuses. i generally prefer the jump pack as it actually gives you more opportunities to use the lascannon effectively- retreating, flanking, longe range sniping, you name it. pair it with the eruptor and you straight up dont ever have to even get close to outposts or objectives to destroy them

      @biblequotesdaily6618@biblequotesdaily661823 күн бұрын
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