This video breaks down the findings of a fellow diver called Krash. Some of those findings are - Armor Coverage - Armor # meaning - Armor Color Meaning - Difference in Helmets
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This reminds me of when I was in elementary school and all the kids said "if I push this button on my shoe, I can run faster."
@grantolson404314 күн бұрын
haha well of course. dont forget the flames to increase speed as well
@jonnylaw199014 күн бұрын
Lol this feels like Helldiver astrology. I hope this is real because if it is it adds SO much more depth to armors which is such a fun idea and something I've really wanted. While it seems insane the devs do seem to care a lot about small details and also aren't afraid to hide info from players. I'll have to experiment around with this a bit.
@scoople625 күн бұрын
Sounds like snake oil, gonna keep using my servo assisted light armor until test results are posted.
@pauldrice1996Ай бұрын
The video's a bit.
@darzinth11 күн бұрын
Woaahhhh now this is some depth. Every day I fall in love with Helldivers more. I haven’t been this excited about a game since BO2! Great video!
@brentstrauch7085Ай бұрын
Thank you! more videos to come breaking it down more
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
This is super cool if that's how these actually work, and I am inclined to believe it. Would love to see a full overview of these effects if you guys throw that video together.
@LordOfElmАй бұрын
Coming soon!
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
that's some crazy conspiracy like theories you got there, please tell me more
@kbckjАй бұрын
Put on your tinfoil had cause more videos incoming
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
No way! These are amazing findings, please share more
@Feuer_KampferАй бұрын
Most definitly
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Seems fake.
@Fufu0117Ай бұрын
Seems like it could be. But give it a try
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see the follow up to this after testing!
@johnsherry6021Ай бұрын
I know enemies can score "Critical hits" on you, but what if those crits were like, hitting unprotected areas? I think a good idea for testing would be to wear 2 different covering armours with a rating of 100, get hit 100 to 300 times by one scavenger and count the amount of crits each armour got. If the less covered armour has significantly more crits, we might have misinterpreted the crit system. Also, if the last hit could kill you without a crit, it shouldn't be counted as a hit. Since that one could have either been a regular hit or a crit. Edit: Testing results in replies.
@NorthEeveeАй бұрын
Very interesting
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 So I did some quick testing with 2 sets of armour with 12 resupplies(26 stims(24 + 2 at start)) and my findings were uhh, interesting. With the Drone Master armour(least visually protective of it's class(100 rating)), I counted a total of 23 crit hits And with the Exterminator(Most visually protective of it's class) I counted a total of 11 crits. The Exterminator has double the padding compared to the Drone Master and took a little more than half the crits. I feel like there actually might be something to this. Maybe we could get someone like Ryken XIV to dig deeper into this? Cause either I had dumb luck or there actually is some truth to this theory.
@NorthEeveeАй бұрын
is it Crit hit..... or are you getting hit in the soft spots instead of the armor
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 With scavengers and other melee enemies it's completely random where you get hit. Which is why it makes me think that crit hits might be hits in unarmoured spots.
@NorthEeveeАй бұрын
The first time I learned that some parts of armor has different ratings, I instantly wished that they had their own armor mesh like the ballistic shield, I would love to see light arms literally bounce off heavy armor plates
@tunakann7629Ай бұрын
I've seen a video testing left and right attacks on Asymmetrical armor and that was all correct, I can't find the video but I know that part for sure
@tunakann7629Ай бұрын
@@tunakann7629 didnt they patch it?
@themasterofluck7178Ай бұрын
@@themasterofluck7178 the ballistic sheild? Yeah it's amazing now. I don't think they would have patched out localized armor tho
@tunakann7629Ай бұрын
@@tunakann7629 im talking more about helmets. there used to be very small bonuses on certain helmets like speed/armor but they got patched out
@themasterofluck7178Ай бұрын
@@themasterofluck7178 that was only on a single helmet, I'm sure it got patched out. A hit on any helmet seems to receive double damage
@tunakann7629Ай бұрын
i think some of this may be ehh but I also wouldnt be surprised, it was estimated that the hood helmet does increase your speed. I thought it was more so light armors gave you less attention because of sound possibly. Its worth a look though, it kind of in a grey area but we wont know unless more people put it to the test.
@RhadacurthАй бұрын
Exactly. and thats why we are putting in the work to do these tests
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
The helmet thing was a bug that is now fixed. Doesn't work like that for the helmets anymore.
@MetaGuideMediaАй бұрын
So what's the chance of you guys putting some of this info into a document for easy reference? Especially things for like the numbers on armor.
@lughfiregod16Ай бұрын
Pretty high after the videos
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
This was a really interesting evaluation of the different armor available.
@Malactha15Ай бұрын
More in depth coverage coming soon
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
that brings a whole new layer to the game and it is indeed sometimes very frustrating when i wear certain armor. no i keep my eyes open to realize those thimgs to happen.
@mackettv249123 күн бұрын
I know this is very much *I made it the f up* right now. But I definitely will do my own testing to improve what I like doing in this game and see if I get better results. Look forward to better proof and more examples.
@domg6041Ай бұрын
I apreciate the scepesism. I too was aceptical when Krash was telling me all this. But once I was doing some tests with him. Either his charisma is at 100. Or he is pulling a genjutsu on me cause i could see the differences.. And it was confirming some of the weird things I was seeing on my own
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
I will need to do some field testing but this sounds intresting. Did you try to test it with freindly fire?
@avery1248Ай бұрын
I had the sane thought but the problem is there isnt a weapon we have that does not hace any kind of armor penetration, which ruins any possible tests
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 maybe bot machinegun
@avery1248Ай бұрын
This is some "Charlie pointing at the whiteboard"-level conspiracy stuff. While all this sounds cool and interesting, it's definitely not true. While it wouldn't disprove anything, some easy ones to validate/disprove are the helmet with antennae and lenses to see through fog better, and the drone master tan coloration causing bots to take longer to target you. These can be easily tested one-to-one: dive into a mission with fog with the helmet and record some footage looking at a distinctive point from a specific distance/location. Then, quit out, and dive back into the same mission (same seed) without that helmet and look at the same location from the same spot. There will be no difference. The same can be done with the drone master armor. Find a normal bot, sneak up to it until it starts scanning you, and measure how long it takes before it starts shooting. This should be done specifically with unalerted bots for normalization. Then, dive in without the drone master armor, do the same procedure, and measure. They will have the same detection time.
@morgan339222 күн бұрын
More testing en route
@jonnylaw199022 күн бұрын
Very interesting, would make sense of what the CEO said about transmog and effects. Look forwars to the video breaking down 0 -9. Subscribed, thank you 😊
@Reverend-MattyАй бұрын
thank you bob ross.. love your paintings lol (if you ever change your profile pic this wont make sense)
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Had it for years, it's not going anywhere "Happy little helldivers"
@Reverend-MattyАй бұрын
Fantastic tech update, and I love the game for not telling, makes for so much great KZhead content.
@fibodegjenn441126 күн бұрын
thank you. im new to this so all i can do from here is get better
@jonnylaw199026 күн бұрын
I must know what orange means. I need to know if its effect is helping or hurting my flamer build. (Not that I will stop using it. I have to wear the full orange set when using fire weapons. It ties the build together.)
@mushroomjohnson4694Ай бұрын
If this is all simulated in the game then THEY NEED TO PUT THE STATS INTO THE UI SO WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.
@sablephoenix12 күн бұрын
Most of it I think is incorrect, but I reckon the actual armour plates giving you protection feels right (I noticed something like that in my own gameplay)
@rbwbrАй бұрын
Apreciate the support! Hopefully our next videos will be more convincing
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Intriguing to say the least! Please breakdown more numbers and colors. Especially interested in the Light Armors number designations; do they follow the stratagem/aoe size values or some completely different characteristics?
@kiryuski22 күн бұрын
More videos in the works!
@jonnylaw199022 күн бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 ty for your service! also curious about the color blue (lookin at you pre-order helmet+armor)
@kiryuski21 күн бұрын
@@kiryuski i wish i knew. I dont have the pre order gear. But the new warbond has obvious blue. So hopefully we can figure it out
@jonnylaw199021 күн бұрын
I do believe you're mostly correct based on my experience. Im not sure if im as confident in the color or number designation idea. At least in how you described in the video. Maybe something there but i think that theory needs more work. I have definitely noticed watching a friends stream while in the same game as me have way better visibility while im in almost total darkness.
@MetaGuideMediaАй бұрын
There will be more videos breaking it down more and pics showing off these perks
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Ive always assumed that there’s hidden stats, like dark souls games, particularly on the helmets as if two definitely have a bonus then they probably all do but I’m dubious about all the differences here! Interesting though!
@SimonFrancis-gd1qx28 күн бұрын
The breakdown was really cool, man. Never suspected the armor placement would affect how much damage we take. AH really takes it to another level. Hope you can sort out your mic levels though. Your friend Krash is really loud while you are pretty soft.
@KingSpesАй бұрын
haha yeah noticed the mic issue as well. gonna try to fix it by next vid
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
I would say this is complete BS, but I've found little obscure shit in games that is completely left unexplained - but it's still there. Keep testing 👍
@JoMcD2122 күн бұрын
Wether you agree or not i aprrciate tge support regardless
@jonnylaw199022 күн бұрын
If this is real, maybe it's unfinished or scrapped code. Maybe the couple of helmets that had hidden stats were part of it? We already know there are hidden stats with weapons. It's absolutely plausible that the devs had a much deeper gear system that they scrapped but there are some remnants of it in the code
@panzer0016 күн бұрын
That could be very true. Out of all of the info. I do believe we have armor zones. Just like the enemies
@jonnylaw199015 күн бұрын
how come none of these are told to us by the game seem like it really should. also could you put togther some kind of spread sheet for all the known effect and unknown effects
@baileylucciАй бұрын
There is a spreadsheet. Which will be shown in the next set of videos. And think of it like the 50 stats hidden in weapons. They said they wanted us to kinda figure them out
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Should they though? I like that the only way to know is to try things, I much prefer when you have to figure things out by ourselves plus it helps mène the community
@SimonFrancis-gd1qx28 күн бұрын
What is the source of most of this information? You gave some testing footage, and then started saying a ton of stuff with no evidence or backing.
@ThePlaybook26 күн бұрын
Check the 2nd video
@jonnylaw199025 күн бұрын
Yeah nah. The colors of the armor and visor don't do anything (there are literally color palette swaps in the game files) and the numbers don't mean anything either. The 500kg does not increase in explosion radius size with the FS-55 Devastator or the CE-35 Trench Engineer and the armor prefixes only denote which kit perk they will come with (with a few exceptions and I can see them being in the wrong category or having the wrong passive explained below) CE - Combat Engineer - Every suit with this prefix has the Engineer Kit passive CM - Combat Medic - Every suit has the Medic passive DP - Democracy Protects - Every suit has the Democracy Protects passive SA - Servo Assisted B - Bastion SC - Scout EX - Experimental - Only 3 suits have this and they're all the Arc Damage Resist TR - ? - This is only found on the pre-order suits with the only pattern is that they're pre-order. Due to it appearing to be a light suit, the Drone Master having the SC prefix makes me believe it was originally slated to be a Scout suit, just as the Combat Technician armor has the SA prefix and the description of "Due to the enhanced strength caused by this armor, caution is advised when using door handles or embracing colleagues." yet it has the Scout passive, so the exception does not and will never prove the rule. If a suit of CM prefix armor comes out that doesn't have the Medic passive, but since literally every other CM prefix does, the CM is still Combat Medic and suits with CM are expected to have the Medic passive. The only thing I could see being plausible would be the armor plates/padding providing actual coverage since the devs do this for the enemies as well.
@ericstone2318Ай бұрын
Thank you so your critique. I hope the next video with what the testing shows changes your perspective.. al least gets you to the point... "okay maybe something is going on"
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
I mean. Only thing that could 100% confirm this for some is if a dev/joel/ceo comes in and confirms or denies this info
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Why would you upload this with no testing at all...
@bigmemer439829 күн бұрын
Its an intro
@jonnylaw199029 күн бұрын
This is very interesting, all im itching to know now is what 00 does on armor. Following.
@doktorroast2819Ай бұрын
I’m interested in the color of visor it would be good to put together of chart
@douglasbix98221 күн бұрын
We have plans to
@jonnylaw199021 күн бұрын
ngl this feels like snake oil with those hidden perks, colour of visors etc, armour coverage seems reasonable but I'm not sure either. it seems kinda like conspiracy theory 😂 show us some tests and then I would buy it
@czort3753Ай бұрын
tests coming soon!
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Actually seeing the tests for these effects would be appreciated. I dont disbelieve you, as from what i can tell the scout allows you to see minor points of interest on the map if you hover over them before you actually discover them, and it definitely doesnt tell you that in the description, but id still like to see it in action, plus a text list of all stats for quick reference would be fantastic
@shoyahaaruniАй бұрын
Next video very soon. Recording and such is done just need to edit
@jonnylaw199029 күн бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 awesome
@shoyahaaruni29 күн бұрын
No way this is true. People have done extensive testing on armors using 100s of impacts. If anything weird was going on they would have noticed. The videos are on YT and you can see their experimentation with hard data.
@agitatorjr23 күн бұрын
I dont think that is a feature of the Scout armor. I scout the mini map to find POIs and I dont use Scout
@panzer0016 күн бұрын
i'd adore a full break down! i've been speculating this with my group for weeks.
@ProfOmiiАй бұрын
Soon very soon
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
could this be tested with a buddy and a pistol?
@newenergyexperience434Ай бұрын
Unfortunatly none of the weapons dont have some form of armor pen which negate the armor
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
oh ya lol my B.
@newenergyexperience43428 күн бұрын
stalwart? ..
@newenergyexperience43428 күн бұрын
@@newenergyexperience434 hm. I dunno. I havent been on in a min cause of editing
@jonnylaw199027 күн бұрын
You need to add this info to the wiki page
@thors_hammr_shot838223 күн бұрын
I would. But right now its just.. we see things happening and we think this is the cause. Till a dev or someone gives us like a "stamp od aproveal" it not 100% fact.. even though we can replicate it
@jonnylaw199023 күн бұрын
okay so why didnt you just go in a game and shoot at each other, we literally have known damage values from every weapons out currently, why even say all this head cannon? why are you wasting peoples time with this hog wash?
@meatykyun5981Ай бұрын
Welllllll. Cause every weapon we have is light penetration and up. So negates our armor. So shooting ourselves wouldnt work
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
I feel like im getting gaslighted
@demonicdude1328Ай бұрын
Lol i dont think gaslighted is the proper word you are looking for. Tricked, decieved maybe. But there will be more videos to show we are in fact not tricking you
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
The Lords work...
@angryantfarmerАй бұрын
make the videos, lets see what you got
@Buck105HEАй бұрын
they are in the works!
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Until we see a test on this I don't buy it.
@PostparАй бұрын
Vids coming soon
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Post more!!!!
@Great.808Ай бұрын
I plan on it fam!
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 when?
@Great.808Ай бұрын
Im hoping no later than this weekend roughly new to this so time is a contraint i have to work around
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
'Tell me more?'
@Zergor13 күн бұрын
More lol
@jonnylaw199013 күн бұрын
Can you at least make this into a real video, like with side by side comparisons and proof of what you guys so complacently talk about in your absolutely awful sounding discord call?
@OsmaskerАй бұрын
Thats the plan. Think of it as an intro to... and dunno what he can do about his side
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
Need to list what the armor numbers 0-9 do. Should have done that not simply talk about the 2 armors you did.
@wbowman155611 сағат бұрын
I plan on it. I am working on 0-3 right now
@jonnylaw19909 сағат бұрын
So you tell us that there is an Ton of hidden Perks behind every little Detail, and we don´t get them on Paper? -This is Evil
@jhonsmith8454Ай бұрын
Pretty much! They already stated there were a lot more stats behind every weapon besides damage, fire rate, exc. So not surprising there are tons of effects too
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
This is nonsense lmao, the AI is not complex enough to actually patrol areas, nevermind target colors on armor. what's happening is headshot damage
@coomtheslayer13 күн бұрын
It patrols areas for enemies. Why wouldnt it for us as well?
@jonnylaw199013 күн бұрын
@@jonnylaw1990 dude they path to fixed locations. They spawn, walk straight towards you, then keep walking and despawn. Bots always aim for the head, and the headshot hitbox is huge
@coomtheslayer13 күн бұрын
heheheheehe
@SpartanG007Ай бұрын
hehehehehe
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
funny boys
@jaydensavage689Ай бұрын
Y’all are smoking dix.
@Gwilliker178Ай бұрын
Nah we are smokin managed democracy!
@jonnylaw1990Ай бұрын
This seem like a bunch of bullshit to me
@8Tarkus811 күн бұрын
Lots of talk and not much proof
@infinite_ammo3 күн бұрын
I mean. I had video rolling of the armor working
@jonnylaw19903 күн бұрын
There's another video that collaborates what they are saying. The colors and the armor ratings.
This reminds me of when I was in elementary school and all the kids said "if I push this button on my shoe, I can run faster."
haha well of course. dont forget the flames to increase speed as well
Lol this feels like Helldiver astrology. I hope this is real because if it is it adds SO much more depth to armors which is such a fun idea and something I've really wanted. While it seems insane the devs do seem to care a lot about small details and also aren't afraid to hide info from players. I'll have to experiment around with this a bit.
Sounds like snake oil, gonna keep using my servo assisted light armor until test results are posted.
The video's a bit.
Woaahhhh now this is some depth. Every day I fall in love with Helldivers more. I haven’t been this excited about a game since BO2! Great video!
Thank you! more videos to come breaking it down more
This is super cool if that's how these actually work, and I am inclined to believe it. Would love to see a full overview of these effects if you guys throw that video together.
Coming soon!
that's some crazy conspiracy like theories you got there, please tell me more
Put on your tinfoil had cause more videos incoming
No way! These are amazing findings, please share more
Most definitly
Seems fake.
Seems like it could be. But give it a try
Can’t wait to see the follow up to this after testing!
I know enemies can score "Critical hits" on you, but what if those crits were like, hitting unprotected areas? I think a good idea for testing would be to wear 2 different covering armours with a rating of 100, get hit 100 to 300 times by one scavenger and count the amount of crits each armour got. If the less covered armour has significantly more crits, we might have misinterpreted the crit system. Also, if the last hit could kill you without a crit, it shouldn't be counted as a hit. Since that one could have either been a regular hit or a crit. Edit: Testing results in replies.
Very interesting
@@jonnylaw1990 So I did some quick testing with 2 sets of armour with 12 resupplies(26 stims(24 + 2 at start)) and my findings were uhh, interesting. With the Drone Master armour(least visually protective of it's class(100 rating)), I counted a total of 23 crit hits And with the Exterminator(Most visually protective of it's class) I counted a total of 11 crits. The Exterminator has double the padding compared to the Drone Master and took a little more than half the crits. I feel like there actually might be something to this. Maybe we could get someone like Ryken XIV to dig deeper into this? Cause either I had dumb luck or there actually is some truth to this theory.
is it Crit hit..... or are you getting hit in the soft spots instead of the armor
@@jonnylaw1990 With scavengers and other melee enemies it's completely random where you get hit. Which is why it makes me think that crit hits might be hits in unarmoured spots.
The first time I learned that some parts of armor has different ratings, I instantly wished that they had their own armor mesh like the ballistic shield, I would love to see light arms literally bounce off heavy armor plates
I've seen a video testing left and right attacks on Asymmetrical armor and that was all correct, I can't find the video but I know that part for sure
@@tunakann7629 didnt they patch it?
@@themasterofluck7178 the ballistic sheild? Yeah it's amazing now. I don't think they would have patched out localized armor tho
@@tunakann7629 im talking more about helmets. there used to be very small bonuses on certain helmets like speed/armor but they got patched out
@@themasterofluck7178 that was only on a single helmet, I'm sure it got patched out. A hit on any helmet seems to receive double damage
i think some of this may be ehh but I also wouldnt be surprised, it was estimated that the hood helmet does increase your speed. I thought it was more so light armors gave you less attention because of sound possibly. Its worth a look though, it kind of in a grey area but we wont know unless more people put it to the test.
Exactly. and thats why we are putting in the work to do these tests
The helmet thing was a bug that is now fixed. Doesn't work like that for the helmets anymore.
So what's the chance of you guys putting some of this info into a document for easy reference? Especially things for like the numbers on armor.
Pretty high after the videos
This was a really interesting evaluation of the different armor available.
More in depth coverage coming soon
that brings a whole new layer to the game and it is indeed sometimes very frustrating when i wear certain armor. no i keep my eyes open to realize those thimgs to happen.
I know this is very much *I made it the f up* right now. But I definitely will do my own testing to improve what I like doing in this game and see if I get better results. Look forward to better proof and more examples.
I apreciate the scepesism. I too was aceptical when Krash was telling me all this. But once I was doing some tests with him. Either his charisma is at 100. Or he is pulling a genjutsu on me cause i could see the differences.. And it was confirming some of the weird things I was seeing on my own
I will need to do some field testing but this sounds intresting. Did you try to test it with freindly fire?
I had the sane thought but the problem is there isnt a weapon we have that does not hace any kind of armor penetration, which ruins any possible tests
@@jonnylaw1990 maybe bot machinegun
This is some "Charlie pointing at the whiteboard"-level conspiracy stuff. While all this sounds cool and interesting, it's definitely not true. While it wouldn't disprove anything, some easy ones to validate/disprove are the helmet with antennae and lenses to see through fog better, and the drone master tan coloration causing bots to take longer to target you. These can be easily tested one-to-one: dive into a mission with fog with the helmet and record some footage looking at a distinctive point from a specific distance/location. Then, quit out, and dive back into the same mission (same seed) without that helmet and look at the same location from the same spot. There will be no difference. The same can be done with the drone master armor. Find a normal bot, sneak up to it until it starts scanning you, and measure how long it takes before it starts shooting. This should be done specifically with unalerted bots for normalization. Then, dive in without the drone master armor, do the same procedure, and measure. They will have the same detection time.
More testing en route
Very interesting, would make sense of what the CEO said about transmog and effects. Look forwars to the video breaking down 0 -9. Subscribed, thank you 😊
thank you bob ross.. love your paintings lol (if you ever change your profile pic this wont make sense)
Had it for years, it's not going anywhere "Happy little helldivers"
Fantastic tech update, and I love the game for not telling, makes for so much great KZhead content.
thank you. im new to this so all i can do from here is get better
I must know what orange means. I need to know if its effect is helping or hurting my flamer build. (Not that I will stop using it. I have to wear the full orange set when using fire weapons. It ties the build together.)
If this is all simulated in the game then THEY NEED TO PUT THE STATS INTO THE UI SO WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.
Most of it I think is incorrect, but I reckon the actual armour plates giving you protection feels right (I noticed something like that in my own gameplay)
Apreciate the support! Hopefully our next videos will be more convincing
Intriguing to say the least! Please breakdown more numbers and colors. Especially interested in the Light Armors number designations; do they follow the stratagem/aoe size values or some completely different characteristics?
More videos in the works!
@@jonnylaw1990 ty for your service! also curious about the color blue (lookin at you pre-order helmet+armor)
@@kiryuski i wish i knew. I dont have the pre order gear. But the new warbond has obvious blue. So hopefully we can figure it out
I do believe you're mostly correct based on my experience. Im not sure if im as confident in the color or number designation idea. At least in how you described in the video. Maybe something there but i think that theory needs more work. I have definitely noticed watching a friends stream while in the same game as me have way better visibility while im in almost total darkness.
There will be more videos breaking it down more and pics showing off these perks
Ive always assumed that there’s hidden stats, like dark souls games, particularly on the helmets as if two definitely have a bonus then they probably all do but I’m dubious about all the differences here! Interesting though!
The breakdown was really cool, man. Never suspected the armor placement would affect how much damage we take. AH really takes it to another level. Hope you can sort out your mic levels though. Your friend Krash is really loud while you are pretty soft.
haha yeah noticed the mic issue as well. gonna try to fix it by next vid
I would say this is complete BS, but I've found little obscure shit in games that is completely left unexplained - but it's still there. Keep testing 👍
Wether you agree or not i aprrciate tge support regardless
If this is real, maybe it's unfinished or scrapped code. Maybe the couple of helmets that had hidden stats were part of it? We already know there are hidden stats with weapons. It's absolutely plausible that the devs had a much deeper gear system that they scrapped but there are some remnants of it in the code
That could be very true. Out of all of the info. I do believe we have armor zones. Just like the enemies
how come none of these are told to us by the game seem like it really should. also could you put togther some kind of spread sheet for all the known effect and unknown effects
There is a spreadsheet. Which will be shown in the next set of videos. And think of it like the 50 stats hidden in weapons. They said they wanted us to kinda figure them out
Should they though? I like that the only way to know is to try things, I much prefer when you have to figure things out by ourselves plus it helps mène the community
What is the source of most of this information? You gave some testing footage, and then started saying a ton of stuff with no evidence or backing.
Check the 2nd video
Yeah nah. The colors of the armor and visor don't do anything (there are literally color palette swaps in the game files) and the numbers don't mean anything either. The 500kg does not increase in explosion radius size with the FS-55 Devastator or the CE-35 Trench Engineer and the armor prefixes only denote which kit perk they will come with (with a few exceptions and I can see them being in the wrong category or having the wrong passive explained below) CE - Combat Engineer - Every suit with this prefix has the Engineer Kit passive CM - Combat Medic - Every suit has the Medic passive DP - Democracy Protects - Every suit has the Democracy Protects passive SA - Servo Assisted B - Bastion SC - Scout EX - Experimental - Only 3 suits have this and they're all the Arc Damage Resist TR - ? - This is only found on the pre-order suits with the only pattern is that they're pre-order. Due to it appearing to be a light suit, the Drone Master having the SC prefix makes me believe it was originally slated to be a Scout suit, just as the Combat Technician armor has the SA prefix and the description of "Due to the enhanced strength caused by this armor, caution is advised when using door handles or embracing colleagues." yet it has the Scout passive, so the exception does not and will never prove the rule. If a suit of CM prefix armor comes out that doesn't have the Medic passive, but since literally every other CM prefix does, the CM is still Combat Medic and suits with CM are expected to have the Medic passive. The only thing I could see being plausible would be the armor plates/padding providing actual coverage since the devs do this for the enemies as well.
Thank you so your critique. I hope the next video with what the testing shows changes your perspective.. al least gets you to the point... "okay maybe something is going on"
I mean. Only thing that could 100% confirm this for some is if a dev/joel/ceo comes in and confirms or denies this info
Why would you upload this with no testing at all...
Its an intro
This is very interesting, all im itching to know now is what 00 does on armor. Following.
I’m interested in the color of visor it would be good to put together of chart
We have plans to
ngl this feels like snake oil with those hidden perks, colour of visors etc, armour coverage seems reasonable but I'm not sure either. it seems kinda like conspiracy theory 😂 show us some tests and then I would buy it
tests coming soon!
Actually seeing the tests for these effects would be appreciated. I dont disbelieve you, as from what i can tell the scout allows you to see minor points of interest on the map if you hover over them before you actually discover them, and it definitely doesnt tell you that in the description, but id still like to see it in action, plus a text list of all stats for quick reference would be fantastic
Next video very soon. Recording and such is done just need to edit
@@jonnylaw1990 awesome
No way this is true. People have done extensive testing on armors using 100s of impacts. If anything weird was going on they would have noticed. The videos are on YT and you can see their experimentation with hard data.
I dont think that is a feature of the Scout armor. I scout the mini map to find POIs and I dont use Scout
i'd adore a full break down! i've been speculating this with my group for weeks.
Soon very soon
could this be tested with a buddy and a pistol?
Unfortunatly none of the weapons dont have some form of armor pen which negate the armor
oh ya lol my B.
stalwart? ..
@@newenergyexperience434 hm. I dunno. I havent been on in a min cause of editing
You need to add this info to the wiki page
I would. But right now its just.. we see things happening and we think this is the cause. Till a dev or someone gives us like a "stamp od aproveal" it not 100% fact.. even though we can replicate it
okay so why didnt you just go in a game and shoot at each other, we literally have known damage values from every weapons out currently, why even say all this head cannon? why are you wasting peoples time with this hog wash?
Welllllll. Cause every weapon we have is light penetration and up. So negates our armor. So shooting ourselves wouldnt work
I feel like im getting gaslighted
Lol i dont think gaslighted is the proper word you are looking for. Tricked, decieved maybe. But there will be more videos to show we are in fact not tricking you
The Lords work...
make the videos, lets see what you got
they are in the works!
Until we see a test on this I don't buy it.
Vids coming soon
Post more!!!!
I plan on it fam!
@@jonnylaw1990 when?
Im hoping no later than this weekend roughly new to this so time is a contraint i have to work around
'Tell me more?'
More lol
Can you at least make this into a real video, like with side by side comparisons and proof of what you guys so complacently talk about in your absolutely awful sounding discord call?
Thats the plan. Think of it as an intro to... and dunno what he can do about his side
Need to list what the armor numbers 0-9 do. Should have done that not simply talk about the 2 armors you did.
I plan on it. I am working on 0-3 right now
So you tell us that there is an Ton of hidden Perks behind every little Detail, and we don´t get them on Paper? -This is Evil
Pretty much! They already stated there were a lot more stats behind every weapon besides damage, fire rate, exc. So not surprising there are tons of effects too
This is nonsense lmao, the AI is not complex enough to actually patrol areas, nevermind target colors on armor. what's happening is headshot damage
It patrols areas for enemies. Why wouldnt it for us as well?
@@jonnylaw1990 dude they path to fixed locations. They spawn, walk straight towards you, then keep walking and despawn. Bots always aim for the head, and the headshot hitbox is huge
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funny boys
Y’all are smoking dix.
Nah we are smokin managed democracy!
This seem like a bunch of bullshit to me
Lots of talk and not much proof
I mean. I had video rolling of the armor working
There's another video that collaborates what they are saying. The colors and the armor ratings.
Whats the name of the channel