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something I noticed yesterday when I was at the Dollar Store: Companies nowadays are labelling the mice as " gaming mice ", but in the end I think the term " gaming mouse " is just to mention the mouse has some RGB lightings
DPI buttons / RGB / honey comb.
True
My dollar store sells gaming headphones, keyboards, and mice. (Headphones suck i got one as a temporary fix)
@@Ursoro all that makes them "gaming headphones" to the companies is that they have a "cool" look and like 2 megatons of rgb on it.
The "gaming" product trend is a cancer thats just meant to syphon money out of little kids wallets. Gaming products at the cheap end are just office equipment that is designed to look clones of actually good products and have some cheap RGB thrown in. If you look at cheap mouses, they usually look like some mix of a Death adder and G502/G903. Same thing with the keyboards. Usually a crappy membrane with RGB thrown in there that is meant to look like a Razer Black Widow.
Gaming mouse trap? HELL YEAH
We need gaming rat poison next
It's got an aRGB sign that says COME IN!
rgb rat poison
Naturally the best is the most expensive...not necessarily the most useful. The mouse costs more than the game.
Yessirr
1:44 Good to see the superlight also does well in this test, this one to me is much more important than click latency as it effects not just every frame but even within the frame how consistently your movements are registered and how quickly you can make readjustments.
I mean come on, it's a $150 msrp mice. At that point it literally have to be good.
Would love to see how the mid-priced Pulsar Xlite Wireless stacks up against the GPX or VU in sensor/click latency. Looks like a great EC2 alternative if it performs well. Hard to blindly trust the wireless on these smaller companies for me.
The most overlooked difference? Maximum acceleration. An office mouse, for example, simply isn't designed for low sensitivity or DPI scenarios where movement of the mouse would have to be tracked fast. This results in you moving your mouse in, let's say, an FPS game and your character struggling and lagging behind due to the mouse sensor not being able to catch up. Then there is also sensor precision itself, DPI adjustment and latency (especially if wireless). I am assuming that these budge mice are more akin to office mice than gaming mice.
problem is that even on desktop the cursor spazzes out with these
Hit the nail on the head
You are absolutely correct. I switched to a cheap dell office mouse for a while after my gaming mouse broke and swiping that mouse fast on low sens in CS go felt like there was a 300ms input delay.
yes most buyers are attracted in dpi instead of ips, acc speed and latency :(
not just the acceleration, but also the Maximum Tracking Speed (counted in Inches per second).
So Delux M800 actually does have a noticeable click latency. I felt myself completely fucking braindead when I was missing flick shots I was 100% sure I aimed for both in Kovaak's and with Wingman in Apex, but when I switched to Viper Ultimate, most of them actually disappeared and I was very surprised. Thank you, Ali.
It really does, it's something I can notice in game as well. Doesn't really bother me on COD, but on any competitive 5v5 game it's a noticeable disadvantage. Too bad you can't change the debounce time, even when using another software like the BTL Gretxa one, editing the cfg file of the software to read the Delux. It's common on mice with Sino Wealth MCUs, and even works on the wired 3389 version of the M800. All the other mice using the same MCU and the 3335 have 15ms of debounce time and ~16ms of click latency compared to the Ikari, and also cannot change the debounce time on the software, and no firmware update for any of those. This includes the M800DB, DM6 Holey Duo, LTC Mosh Pit and a few others. Just something I've noticed.
I had the same with model O Wireless/ Model D set debounce time to 0MS and it went away, hitting crazy flicks in cs now again.
@@progenji6407 how i can change the debounce time? i dont see an option in the software
@@brianvalenciaaravena3851 differs between mice model D you go to performance settings and model o wireless go to performance, click on the right side of the app (dont click the dpi) and it should appear
i already buy M899 from G305 i feel same like you. i need 3 month to try if im not getting better i will sell it
As always, you videos are really awesome. I would like you to know that a lot of us enthusiasts look at you as one of the few truly reputable sources for latency testing. I hope your testing continues. More power to you, your content and your channel. Cheers Man!
With this testing setup you have and the LDAT, I'd love to see what kind of an effect that running high performance mice through a USB hub can have. If any.
I can't really grasp how entertaining this video was. Even though I'm not looking for a mouse to buy anymore as I bought my Razer Deathadder V2 a month ago, this is some juicy content. Thanks Ali!
Was debating between DA v2's shape and Viper Ultimate's weight, ended up with VU, but I swear I want DA v2 in my collection so much, happy for you man.
#DeathAdder v2 Gang
@@MyRageIsOP Yea I really liked v2's shape too as it was similar to my previous mouse. It's a bit taller too, but I got used to it in less than a week. It's awesome.
I went from the Deathadder Elite to the Viper (pre-8000 MHz) and I found that, whilst the Deathadder is certainly a good mouse, the Viper is a better fit more my hands and that I didn’t have to adjust my grip as much to stay comfortable (and I have a big hands and normally use a palm grip).
@@MyRageIsOP c
Please do *Budget Amazon Gaming Keyboard Trap* next :)
Yeah, I can't be the only one hoping that Ali turns this into an entire series. I'll understand if *he* doesn't want to resort to more regular online dumpster-diving for the sake of content, but I'm just... showing my support for the idea.
@@TheGentleChainsaw he could follow up with what people should get within the budget (or a slight increase in price) and show what they can get for the money (the performance increase bar chart, discussion about what's important, etc.) I think it can be a good series, and very relevant in times like this where GPUs are expensive and people's budget for peripherals might be more restricted.
I don't think that would be a good video. The mice are often pretty bad, with problems ranging from the shell/glides to the sensor to the buttons to the design. Keyboards however are often "fine" except for all the random QA defects. I think it comes down to the fact that so much of the feel is on the switch/keycap, and those are just commodity parts (much like say, G. Skill or thermaltake doesn't make their own RAM chips) made in China. If they have a competent PCB, and didn't go dumpster diving for switches(probably Outemu good or bad, which is roughly equivalent to any mainstream big brand mech KB). I mean, a mouse wants to track your position in space. A keyboard just registers "on or off" for about a hundred pressure sensors on a non-mobile baseplate.
Keyboards are way more forgiving than mice, most of the really cheap ones are more than fine even for gaming.
I haven't understod how keyboards depends in gaming. I just experience the click feeling when i playing not that i become more better.
I'd LOVE to see your high quality latency testing but running through various peripherals such as large USB 3 / USB-C hubs and "daisy chains" of monitor -> hub -> PC. It's always been something I've been concerned about, especially with LOTS of USB devices running through two USB hubs into a single USB-C port. Can the port really handle 1000hz polling properly with all that noise? So a kind of best case USB hub and worst case scenario where you're trying to saturate the port, does it make a difference at all or is it identical to plugging directly into the mobo. Love your content, thank you!
That honeycomb on at the beginning, from Ziyou Lang, I had a very similar one. It was wired though and looked a little different. But the sensor was just as bad and it was also very scratchy. I think that brand is just one of those brands that sell products that work ok before people realize that it’s terrible stuff and it’s too late to return it. My sensor didn’t only stop. The entire mouse disconnected after too fast of movement. The lights turned off, Windows made the disconnect sound, and it stopped working. Every time I had to press the USB a bit back in. Then I tried to exchange it to get a new one, they responded and said they’d get back to me, and never did lol. It’s the problem with these random brands you’ve never heard of. They are sometimes so sketchy. Also the lighting on it was trash. It was just a bulb and some mesh was under the honeycomb shell, to cover the insides. So the bulb was covered and the lighting looked disgusting. It was this flashing RGB, that just flashed. No smooth transition or anything. Jeez the thing was bad. It even costed $45 CAD. That’s quite a bit of money for a piece of trash like that. Those tiny blue Logitech office mice from the dollar store work better. Ended getting the Steelseries rival 600, which now feels like heaven
I got my Razer Viper Mini for $17.99 brand new on Amazon during a sale. Best mouse I've ever used.
damn bro congrats. That's one insane deal you got there
lol, and i thought my $16 viper mini was suspicious
Same but I got it off from some other website. The thing's just amazing for the price.
I know it was on a sale for 20 dollars
Im still amazed how the fuck this mouse competes with top end mouses lmao the best shit ever I spend money on it
The sensors matter to me, especially for tracking and movement for productivity. Clicking, selecting and highlighting text is super accurate when using my G305
Same
@@strike.2868 For productivity the G305 simply has too few buttons. But that's just me I guess. I use the G604 for most things and the battery modded G305 if I need the lighter weight. I wish they'd install that magspeed wheel from the Master 3 in other mice, but I guess that will never happen to not cannibalize the Master series.
The only bad thing about the G305 is the double click issue. It's by design. I replaced my mouse twice during warranty.
@@floorgang420 yeah same my g305 double clicks
@@floorgang420 yep, same with my g102 and g305, I ended up switching to razer because their optical switches are supposed to last way longer, 1 year with my deathadder mini and no issues yet, wish they made it wireless tho
your mouse testing so great. Honestly wish there was a list like yours for every new mouse.
3:50 wow a $3 office mouse can outdo that shit. The only reason it has such high rating and number of reviews is they might have given cashback coupons for 5 star ratings with the mouse.
i must say, with the 2nd mouse not tracking flicks, i had a similar mouse, it obviously isnt good, but when my main mouse broke, i had some rly bad office mouse that did the same, but it actually made me a better player, it made me calm down my aim and use a smoother style of aim instead of just hard flicking onto enemies It was good practice but not a good experience, i actually peaked in rank on some £5 microsoft mouse.
4:00 i love how his bullets always go to the head like a magnet, magic of first world servers....
Any shot you could give the Pulsar XLITE wireless a review / test with the new testing methodology? Been wanting to try one but prefer to hear your perspective first if you can get a free review model?
i was once one of those people that didnt know anything about mice but then i started watching youtubers like you that teach other people that not all mice are the same and i bought my g305 after i gave it to my friend because he was in need and bought a basilisk v3. Nice content!
Nice video! I think an entertaining video would be to check out very old mice from the 2000-2010 (like the MX518) to check out how they hold up and compare to modern standards
Could go even further back and test the old WMO 1.1a
There are just a lot of casuals who play with absurdly high dpi and sensitivities that won't even notice any of those issues. They barely move their mouse and are at best aiming in the general direction of the enemy. I've argued with these people and they still think it makes them faster and all the pros are doing it like this.
Everyone thinks that at some point of their lives. Some of them realize that aiming is mutch easyer with low dpi and sense you just have to get used to it, and the rest of them stay noob. (except Woxic)
@@tojassargaja2085 Well, compared to most casuals even woxic's settings are practically low sensitivity. That's also something many people don't get. They refer to the so-called exceptions to make their point about it just being a preference completely ignoring that even the exceptions play with something like a quarter of their ridiculous sensitivity.
Yes yes, what a bunch of noobs. But most of us do a lot more with our pcs than game, and no one want to drag their mouse to browse the web or use powerpoint...
@@Henk14789 Well you can do that. If you have High DPI, it will be fast outside the game. You then compensate by lowering the ingame sensitivity is SUPER low. That will result in fast outgame speed and what I consider normal ingame speed. But if I'm being honest, I actually lowered my sensitivity at school to get my arm used to low sensitivity just in case I ever got into PC gaming. Turns out I did which is pretty funny looking back on it. It also allowed for better precision while clicking on stuff. Maybe it's just worth a shot.
@@Henk14789 It takes me about 10 cm (4 inches) to drag the cursor across the screen. It's hardly a problem even at low dpi settings which aren't even necessary for proper gaming settings.
hey Optimum Tech, I was looking for a budget gaming mouse and I found the viper mini and the Logitech g203 light sync. can u give me some points on where these mice lack and exceed and can u tell me which one is better or if one is good? I have watched a lot of reviews and they say that both mice are excellent but because of ur graphical and data knowledge of mice I would like to receive feedback from you
3:35 My mouse came with my pc (lenovo default office mouse (not office pc)) and it does the same, at least it doesnt have sensor issues other than tracking when it mooves to fast.
One of the best cinematography and thorough content creators on KZhead covering peripherals? I am SOLD! New keyboard video when
I wasn't prepared to that kind of results 🤣 Thanks for that comparison! Would be cool teardown of cheap abd expensive gaming mouse!
lol I use the second last one as given to me by a friend since I had office keyboard and mice and didn’t feel like buying a new set it took a bit to get used to it, trust me, but eventually it did end up usable high sens will get rid of the sensor problems, and it seems to be better w/o the use of a mousepad but I do wonder if my absurdly old office mouse would perform better
I can personally vouch for the VersionTech Gaming mouse, You should buy the mouse if: 1. you want one of the cheapest mice with extra side buttons 2. loud and clicky main switches 3. a comfortable feeling while holding it (I use palm grip, but it was good for claw, okay for fingertip grips) 4. some very bright RGB to boost your confidence in gaming I've had it for a year and it works fine, I do play occasional games with it and it performs ok (im no pro gamer but I did get a 30 kill streak with this mouse) im a high sensitivity player so I didnt notice the wire pulling but i do use it on my desk without a mouse pad and it is very smooth. just make sure you clean your glides and desk where you use it once in a while or the glides do get scratchy.
would love to see you compare these mice to standard office (wired/wireless)
I have some dell mouse at work that came with the excel prebuild PC, it's soo light that it moves itself just from tension from the cable lol.
Got some 2$ logitech mice at my work, the mouse itself is kinda ok but the cables are heckin stiff
I tried to play CS:GO sneakily on the work PCs once. The mouse itself seems fine when using it but when gaming oh boy, avoid like the plague.
Office mice is not in the same league for the moment.
@@spd3ictpro says who?, thats why im suggesting him do so
I am probably just too old and set in my ways but my last two mice have had a system for weight adjustment (corsair m65 rgb and logitech g500) and I have always used them with the maximum amount of weight because I feel it makes it somewhat easier to control. So I really don't get the idea of mice needing to be as light as possible. But then again I rarely play anything more action packed than Warframe and definitely nothing competitive. I have considered going wireless. But that is it for me I guess. Reasonably heavy and hand sized for me, thanks... 🙂
Lighter mice make sense when you dramatically lower your sensitivity and are working with high refresh rates. The control and snappiness of a Superlight at 240+ fps is really something.
It was the same for me back in the days when I still used to aim with my wrist. But when you start to play with the whole arm and on low sens (I am typically close to the lowest value in all of my FPS) it really starts to make a difference in accuracy and comfort.
@@maximm.6969 The weight of the mouse is pretty much subjective thing and I know a lot of people who prefer heavier mouses with low sensitivity. It's actually people who use medium sensitivity who like light mouses because it's much more comfortable to make smaller movements with wrist.
That's fine. Lighter mice are helpful because of the low sensitivity. It helps with acceleration times and every 5g is noticeable at that point because you're not using just your wrist. If you don't do that, then weight will make almost no difference.
The main argument is that with lower weight less effort is needed to move the mouse which results in better precision
6:02 Just for the protocol: Paracord should *not* be used for rock climbing! Even a very thick one would kill you faster then you can send those amazon mices back. ;)
there are two versions of the Delux M800. One with an 3325, the other with an 3335. The 3335 comes with Kailh 4.0 and is over all a solid mouse imo (if you get it for 40 bucks or less). There are even some Corepad skates ( I wouldn't use this mouse with stock skates :D) and grip tape for this mouse :D
which version is better?
@@nik14116 3335 is better, but now there's also a 3370, which is the best so far
@@bubbleman91 did you try remove the plastic sticker from pad, I heard it is the problem. Please let me know if your experience is better so i can decide to buy it.
thank you so much for making this video, now I'm proud of myself making choice to buy g pro wireless when I really suck at valorant and mostly plays google docs and zoom.
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During the first half of mice, I thought this video was just going to be a roller coaster of Ali's outrage that only went up! But it kinda tapered out at the end, but the last mouse was still pretty sucky lol. Good work as always, Ali.
honestly, I really appreciate this video I've been looking for a mouse that could take my gameplay down a level and I think I finally found it thanks to you I can get frustrated and blame my mouse for all the times I miss my shots now. Thank you I really appreciate the video keep up the good work.
I recently bought the mouse at 2:04 and it was extremely buggy, however, it stopped bugging out when... I removed the mousepad. i was able to move the mouse faster and the input lag was much, much better. it still had a few problems here and there but i was still confused why this happened. (returning the mouse soon hopefully)
I'm really happy with delux m800 wireless, coming of of steelseries sensei.
I currently use my Viper 8K, but I got my Viper Mini at Best Buy for $19. It is an INSANE MOUSE! At that price, even people who are just casual PC users would find it to be a cool mouse. For gaming, I think it is the best or the second best. If they release an 8K Hz version with the Focus+ sensor, I will probably switch to that. When it goes on sale for only $19 again, I think I'll buy it for my mom's office PC too, lol.
Awesome video bro but i have a question...So i want to get a wireless mouse and i currently have a Razer Viper Mini and i wane know if it would be an upgrade if i got like a Model O wireless or Model D wireless.....What would u recommend?
Great video. Love it. Please, PLEASE do a throw back and include FinalMouse!
I already have a g pro x superlight but I still watch every mouse video just because of how good and entertaining they are. Keep it up man
same here!
same here!
6:22 and the fact that this mouse is a copy of bloody a70 (to ppl who dont know bloody mice have extremely fast switches)
I have the deluxe m700 and besides the kind of weird (not bad just different) feeling side buttons and scroll wheel that became super squeaky its actually a really good mouse.
i remember to buy the version tech mouse, for $1, just used 5 min and noticed the same that you said, went back to my regular mouse, and after 2-3 years when my (12 y/o) mouse died, tried to use it meanwhile a new one comes, but all the primary switches were faulty, double click or releases without releasing the switch and so, even when 2-3 years ago were ok and had no use at all. Never seen that before. Never buy an unknown mouse.
the deluxe m800 uses kailh 4.0s top of the line, just implemented poorly. also the sensitivity issues you were feeling was DPI variation. the 3335 sensor is notorious for it. other than that its a very solid $40 mouse.
This man is dunking on people with a mouse that works 50% of the time
how is a mouse that doesnt work 50% of the time a good thing?
@@mohammadmalik9075 he's complimenting the KZhead creator's skill, not praising the mouse.
@@mohammadmalik9075 it's not. But I think Remn3nt was talking about the bit at 3:39 when Ali was still playing shockingly well despite his mouse not moving half the time.
This is one of the most fun and great videos even I watched. Thx Optimun
Hi! Any hope to see a review of the new Be Quiet Dark Rock TF2? It seems a beast for ITX build!
"The weight of this mouse is over 90 grams." Me who still uses the 121g G503: "Wow that sounds super heavy compared to the Superlight."
Meanwhile I am sitting here with my Rival 700 @135g lol.
I find sensor lift detection is one of the biggest flaws with the cheap ones. Nothing more annoying than lifting the mouse to re-position it and having your sights move around.
the razer viper mini has this big time
“You could even go rock climbing with this and probably be safe” I subbed
I got a Razer DeathAdder V2 Mini for $10 used and it's one of the best mice I've ever used (coming from a DeathAdder 2013 and then DeathAdder Elite lol). I love how lightweight it is, and the sensor/switches seem more than good enough.
Love the charts and standard deviation
Thanks for making me feel not so bad about my old Mad Catz wireless mouse!
i've got the feeling that the version i have of the ziyou lang x3 is better then shown here, i do prefer my deathadder over it but the lag isn't noticeable for me, i can do fast movements and the sensor doesn't just give up and it is really smooth on my mousepad, still, not compareable to my deathadder. the end goal wasn't gaming, just being able to adjust things from my simrig. still not as bad as it looks here. let's see if it keeps up over time.
I used the mouse at 5:36 for several years and didn't know how bad it was until I got my hands on some good gaming mice. Now I use the hyperx pulsefire haste and prefer it over g pro and others.
love your vids so much, the amount of effort you put into your content is really respectable, keep at it man! :)
The versiontech sounded like you were chopping a tree down when moving it around.
I've upgraded my G305 with Kalih 4.0 (red) switches and silent one for scroll button. It feels sooooo good to use it right now.
Can you take a look at some Newmen gear some time? They're a budget gear brand that's on the same vein of Dareu that's really popular in South East Asia apparently. They're one of the budget gaming brands that have mice with a good thumb groove. I've been using their mice (particularly the g7 and g8) for years now, and reviews for them are rarer than a good graphics card these days.
Just out of curiosity, could you do these latency tests with different kinds of keyboards?
Can you do a video about whether or not you need a mousepad nowadays? I think using your new mouse testing contraption you can do a pretty scientific test to check if there is any difference in latency on different surfaces like glass, wood, vinyl etc. Thanks!
even if you wouldn't need it for the sensor, the feet have less resistance (mostly), its quieter, its less straining on said feet and small deviancies are evened out
I feel so good w the deathadder elite, it feels so smooth on valorant and stuff
3:34 I do have that exact one but it’s in black, would not recommend I’m having my gaming experience multiplied tenfold using my old office mouse
You should bring back the reaction to your subscribers setups...
Soon :)
@@optimumtech I already cleaned up my room for it
@@optimumtech I want a thermal paste for my laptop which is equipped with a r5 4600h and a 1660 so with which paste should I go with kryonaut, noctua nt nh1 ,or artic mx4 which one will last 8 -10 months without drying or significant rise in temp
Me: *”mom can we get a gaming mouse”* Mom: *”no we have gaming mouse at home”* Gaming mouse at home:
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LOL AT 5:39 is the mouse I got for Christmas before i got my laptop. It costed 500 rupees according to the price tag and when I got to use it, it started double clicking, parts were loosening, the scroll wheel was getting harder to scroll etc. All in under 5 months ( it was an older model tho and didn't have side buttons)
my current mouse is logitech G502 and its pretty fine works well but i have 2 problems with it 1. scroll wheel - for some reason sometimes when i use the scroll wheel it dosent work [made me have to go to ghub to make it easier for me] 2. the design - the design is fine the olny problem is the location of side buttons. because of this i pretty often hit the wrong button and its hard for me to do any type of clicking except normal clicking
This video is definity one hell of a comedy. I can't stop laughing at times. Damn.
If you want a good budget mouse, I highly recommend the Logitech G305, fantastic wireless mouse at around £30.
Using it. Its awesome!
Battery life is crazy, too. One AA battery lasts me around 3 months of daily use.
im using it too, 50 aud + 5 for tiger ice feet 77g
Dream machines dm6 holey S is my go to budget mouse. The S model has the sensor upgraded to the 3389. Mouse is less than 70g, cable is manageable in a bungie, the coating is like a slick rubber almost(cool to the touch but grippy), has quality switches to the point of it being great for my man hands(gpx I would missclick a lot with the right click with just my fingers resting), and has a honeycomb ergo shell. I got mine for $35 on maxgaming and I perform better than most of my mice and I own about 2 grand worth of mice.
What light bars are you using? They're in most of your videos and I'm obsessed I need a couple.
Delux m800 (3335 sensor with the good clicks) and corepads skates is one of the best investments I've made for 60 usd total. Although, the side buttons are really bad. If they ever make a V2, I hope they would make it better. 3325 version comes with omron switches. 3335 version comes with kaihl 4.0 left, right, scroll switches.
The scroll switch is a square button tho, same for the side ones. The Kailh GM 4.0s are only on the main buttons. If it came with good PTFE feet it would've been perfect, I also really love the shape and the clicks.
I got the 3335 one. The side buttons felt good and clicky. I'm curious to know how it's bad from your experience. Also, is it worth it to buy the corepads skates? I'm considering about it.
@@hafizsulaiman4057 I got corepads the second they dropped on the German website months ago. A massive game changer to the stock scratchy feet.
@@vvvvooooiiiidddd When I opened up the mouse the scroll wheel was a black labeled kaihl switch. Would definitely recommend copping some Corepads.
@@bikesandcoff3e I didn't notice if the scroll switch had a brand on it, just that it was a square one, didn't even measure it tbh but it's probably a ~7.3mm one. The encoder on my unit is a Kailh Grey Core 10mm, and it actually feels pretty "meh". Loose steps and not that tactile. I'm waiting for some Kailh 800K encoders I bought from aliexpress. And yeah, aftermarket feet are a MUST for this mouse
3:20 WTFF
Sometimes it's the mouse mat combo with the mouse that creates those issues, once you hit the right mat they don't do those weird issues, just so you possible buyers know, I would use a better brand mouse but you know... just some info.
"The only way to get a kill with this mouse is if the enemy just somehow walks into your crosshair" Hey, that's basically me with any mouse
"Heavy AF... with total weight of 105 grams." Looking at my 115 gram G502 Lightspeed: "It's okay little buddy, it's what on the inside that counts."
Same. It's honestly BS that 115g is considered "unusable" heavy. It's all a matter of getting used to it. I guess I could even perform with a mouse that weights 500g. Back then almost every mouse used in Esport was around 100g and Noone had an issue with it. I'm using a G502LS as well and I'm very good with it and have 0 issues because of its weight. I even tested several other mice (also the Superlight) and didn't like them, even after 2months of getting used to it.
The best cheap mice I have tried are the Projects S001 for $25, the Delux M700 for $32(It needed new feet and a paracord), the Matar MT-X24 for $30, and the Delux M800DB 3335 version for $30-45. If the LTC Moshpit wasn't so heavy it would be ok, same with the Ajazz i303pro. And as far as fit and finish the Jellycomb knockoff of the GPW was ok, the sensor is trash though. It had the best placement for side buttons I have used with a fingertip grip, has a round button that's really easy to press in that grip style, a lot more so than other mice.
Could you do the G502? I’m thinking of upgrading to maybe a G305 or something like the G pro, just want something lighter tbh
Wow, I thought the Delux M800 was really a good mouse, too bad it isn't because it's cheap, its micro switches are Kaihl GM4.0 if I switch to GM2.0 would the click delay solve it?
Since I'm poor and can't afford really good product like super light I really liked this video.
Vipera można wyrwać za ~150 zł czasem, więc wystarczy tylko trochę pozbierać... Zresztą Logitechy za stówę też są całkiem całkiem.
You can always get from Amazon warehouse if available or buy slightly used from eBay. Just takes a lil hunting but I got a superlight for half the price and a GPW for $35 one time. Just needed to deep clean it but now good as gold.
you can get something like a razer viper mini, g203 or rival 3
I think the Logitech g305 is a great choice for cheap and wireless. I have the g pro wireless personally but can’t go wrong with the 305
I have Razer Deathadder V2 now , only thing i hate about it is its Right click is really soft for my palm aiming style .
Office mice next please! I’m really curious to see how office name brand mice compare to gaming mice. You should start with the Logitech MX Master.
2:20 fake model o i see
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I have to admit I'm watching your videos mainly because your thumbnails are so clean!
Straight away can I ask to do same test for non gaming mouse like logitech mx master 2 and 3? As I bought this mouse for work and never considered needing a (gaming) mouse. But as seen in your as always superb video could impact quite hard.
Can’t believe these pieces of crap are “gaming mice” definitely not for gaming
But but but they have RGB of course they are gamer mouses!
hell yeah someone who digs deep is finally covering the m800
i main it and its godlike, corepads on it and its a dream :p
@@baseexploits9512 yea man totally
@@baseexploits9512 agree, just got my Corepads in last week and I love it even more as a result
A lot of reviewers still find a way to have a complain on it also they compare it to much higher price mouse , lol its a 40$wireless mouse and even boardzy likes it
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You should test the whitshark Galahad it's extremely cheap but it has software and actual pretty decent rgb lighting on it its been holding up great, would just love to see you test the latency for it tho
about the 2nd mouse, i was going to buy 1 but the owner said they will give me a better one if i give them a positive review which explained the rating despite the crappy quality, furthermore almost every shop with that mouse asked me to do the same thing
that one with 4 star review with 400 reviews i got because a friend recommended it to me and jesus christ is was terrible im so glad you talked about the bottom of the mouse because i said that to him and he didnt see an issue with it
how long do you have your logitech g640 mousepad ? i would like to pair it with xm1 from endgamegear just wanted to know how long does it last
I personally love super heavy mice as when I lift the mouse, if its too light I often get lost of misinput or lean the mouse too far left or right, causing weird skidding on the side
That versiontech was my first mouse, prior to that I only ever used my laptop touchpad (which wasn't great either). Over here it's sold under a different name, and trust me when I say there are some even worse than it being sold in stores. Edit : I forgot to mention, basically the only reason why I got that mouse was because it was cheap, nothing else. Even office mice from hp cost more than that thing, and we couldn't justify the price difference
The versionTech mouse was designed carting to internet cafes which charges 30 to 50 cents/ hour in Asia. Ppl usually do not play any shooter games in those cafes but windowed online mmo rpgs. For that usages, they fulfil their roles.
not defendimg the cheap white mouse being scratchy but is it possible you didnt peel off the protective covering? i had some cheap mice that was really hard to tell there was any at all visibly unless you were really checking
is there a chance you could test some of the hyperx pulsefire mice? haste, dart or something? id love to see how they compare on your charts
i actually have a GPW rn, shall i get a GPX or a keyboard (apex pro)(i have a ''custom'' glorious GMMK with panda switches, unlubed,unfilmed ?
did you make sure pointer precision was off for the m800db? when i downloaded the software it was on by default for some reason
I noticed mouse acceleration on the M800 sensor, otherwise its really good for the price. Bought it to try it out against my RVM, UL2, Hati-S, & GPX.