2024 Landcruiser 70 series 1st drive review
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TEST DRIVING THE ALL NEW 70 SERIES LANDCRUISER
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These are squarely aimed at mine sites, the agri sector and government agencies. They will be taking these in bulk over vehicles like Hilux and Ranger. Well done Mr Toyota, very strategic. A few domestic customers are not Toyota's concern or target market.
I think you're right on the money here too.
yes,my understandin was the landcruiser was always made for the mines in aussie who are the biggest customers given their reliability and ruggedness.I recall Toyota not offering their 5 year warranty to mining companies due to the harsh conditions the landcruisers are used in.They dont last as much as any other usage in farms and outback.Think Toyota also had to add airbags too for updated insurance purposes in the mines.
@@rorynesta7766yep.. original distributor of the LandCruiser was Thiess. They imported them for the snowy hydroelectric scheme
Probably on the money with that comment, Toyota have to do something to claw back the market in those areas. I was working in the pilbra when the 75 series was phased out and the 79 introduced. Mining fleets completely changed to a mix of cruisers, rodeos, hiluxes etc as imho they were no longer a bolt together cab of the 75 series. And they're not as tough as they say they are lol, we destroyed a brand new 79 in a couple of months at Newman Mt whaleback as boilermakers towing a welder and the back loaded pulling up out of the compound ramp, it was that steep it was low range 1st and hold it flat. Thing was rooted after a couple of months😂😂
Yep. Model shown looks like a mine poverty pack..
This 2.8L Cruiser reminds me of the 70series Prado that came with the 2L TE or 1KZ TE and an autobox. Great move as this setup opens up the cruiser to a lot more people. I’m also glad they’ve kept the V8 and V6 petrol, at least here in Africa. Long live the 70.
I was thinking the same, in the 90s no one hates the 3.0 KZ in the 76 (Prado)! I drive the 2.8 in the hilux and like the engine. I rised the power to 600NM and 235hp it pulls good also with an 3.5t trailer.
@@johannes7509 you gotta b kidding me are these just theoretical power and torque numbers as in what you think or have you genuinely dynoed it The thing would have a shitload of boost and fuel must follow (it must be close to 40 psi or even above Can you explain your mods in detail Including brand names of items used including injector numbers I'd say the only way I can see it safely with any length of life would b with 2 very well matched turbos Pls explain for us
@@andrewk7731en realidad turbo solo 25% más grande de más de 49mm o 51mm de compresor frio de turbo pero siendo ball bearring para no ser lento en lag... Listo un motor 2,8 o un 3.0 fasil sube más de 100 nm de torque y más de 50hp incluso con el mismo diesel x ser turbo más eficiente
@@andrewk7731 This is the Toyota OEM Part number: JS100-N0024 The description (in German): Für die neuen Hilux Facelift-Modelle mit 2,8 Liter Motor ab Prod. datum 2020/04 aufwärts sowie auch für den Land Cruiser J15 mit der neuen Motorausführung ab Prod. datum 2020/08 aufwärts mussten wieder neue Kits entwickelt werden. Die Teilenummern sind wieder je nach Modell unterschiedlich (siehe Auflistung), die neuen Leistungsdaten für beide Fahrzeuge mit dem 1GD-Motor lauten wie folgt: Leistungssteigerung von 150 auf 170 kW bzw. von 204 auf 230 PS; das Drehmoment erhöht sich dabei von 500 auf 600 Nm and I am not responsible for original accessories parts ;)
@@johannes7509 Johannes the part number u quoted is a rabbit hole I'm in Australia Is it Germany specific You stated hilux is that correct To search the number You need vehicle And model year code otherwise that number is a dead end Also are u saying Toyota offered this 2.8 As a performance upgrade with no aftermarket parts ( no aftermarket parts is the catch here) Or was it offered by another performance company If so these will be at the crank numbers more than likely minimum 15 % drivetrain loss with a manual Auto will be more And your numbers are back under 200hp and 500 nm It will still tow alright on the flat Throw a good hill at it with your 3.5 tow weight and she's gonna cook or disable itself And the fuel whew My son had a 2017 hilux 2.8 And a 2.7 ton van He just got rid of it because of The 2.8s consumption He described it as atrocious and a waste of time in a headwind Your better off stopping
This iteration is the perfect balance between old-school mechanics and modern creature comforts. A winner for sure
Fantastic, honest review on 1 drive n no 4wd. Shocking that they have not changed the rear wheel alignment
Should have just brought back the 1HD-FTE, updated the platform for emissions and still have a solid vehicle. I don't think the 2.8 will give the same performance for as long. A smaller engine working harder for longer will cause grief at some point.
Plenty of hiluxs running around with 300000 plus, mine has 230000 always loaded.
I loved the 1HD-FTE. So sad I sold it
The four cylinder should have larger bearings which was an issue for the V8. Looks at trucks, most of them have similar sized engines and have much higher GVM and GCM than the utes we drive. Most of the utes have far more power than we actually need.
Yo a veces e cambiado el 1hdt sano eni carro por 15bt que es casi mismo cilindrada 4.1cc pero de solo 4 cilindros y sin time beld correa dentada
Sad we don’t get any of these legends in north America
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Good to see an honest review, everything i seen so far won't say anything negative, good to see you bring up there rear track issue
They should have used a 6 cyl turbo instead, just my thoughts
They should have used 3.3 litre v6 motor from 300 series with 10 speed auto it has good power with good fuel consumption
Agreed 💯
But they don't have a 6 cylinder diesel
Bring back the 1hdfte engine
They really should have it as an option in this market
Not a Toyota guy myself, but the fact that Toyota did not try to put a bunch of Tech in the new 76 is most likely to help with reliability. I say this because a lot of new vehicles from all the manufacturers seem to have way too much tech out of the gate and yet have so many problems with the extra tech added. If there is anything I have learned with my old 1993 WD21 Pathfinder, it is that simplicity generally keeps things reliable.
True but then they still charge a premium for their vehicles. We call it Toyota tax. Especially now that it'd got a 4 cylinder engine...
@@SavedbyHim these cars are built with build quality and reliability in mind, so thicker than normal materials and better weather sealing for the electronics, etc. those extra thick materials have to come from somewhere, otherwise it'll cost too much for toyota to make them.
Especially through Creek crossings!?😊😊😊
Great review Ronny, I think like everything people don't like change and look at all the perceived negatives first but it will do what 80% of people want it to do
I would say it's a good buy. I have an older Ranger, 4.0 petrol, and the newer 2.2 ecoboost has way more power. Plus, better gas mileage. With the new tech catching up, I think you're right. V8 is going to the wind. Still, gotta love that roar😋 My 2003 Isuzu MUX/Rodeo has the power button and second start. The power button shortens the auto trans shift and increases rpm before shifting. Great for power offroad. The car has a touchy pedal, so the 2nd gear start is good in slick conditions. Nice review, Ronny!😊
Thanks for the intro Ronny! 2.8 in the LC doesn't sound right but: If the real world performance is on par with the on-paper figures, lack of performance should not feared then. Fuel consumption should be better and is a huge consideration for me. Apart from the obvious saving in cost, carrying less fuel on long back country trips etc is a big plus. 2.8 engine is relatively speaking much less complex and likely cheaper to maintain than the V8. Nothing can compare the the sound track of the V8 thou, especially the 4 pot! Something which will always be sad! Excited! 🍺
2.8 👍🏻 4500 1turbo 👎2👍🏻👍🏻
I thing the power is enough for an suv and speeding with suv like this not a good idea, maybe some people will say "more power more better" but the fuel will dissapear faster so... toyota make good decision for me, because v8 is harder to maintain
V8 harder to maintain, what maintenance? Does the milkbottle have lifetime timing drive??? Or is it 100-150’000??? I do not know any maintenance my 9+ year okd v8 has required that the milkbottle wont… i know people with v8’s with 500,000+ that drive same as new, nothing but tyres, brakes, oil and filters…Bet the rail pressure is up on the 4 pot, say hello to accelerated injector wear! 27lb of boost is probably going to affect turbo life as well. Enjoy your girls cars…
@@dunxy Use them the same way and they will live a long life, even if you think about the quality, the six-cylinder is weak and irreplaceable
Bought mine 76 GXL 3 months ago, knowing the specifications of new 2.8L and seeing it online, and now after watching this video, it makes me happy that I did buy the previous generation one.
Id be the same. This new gen looks terrible too. Like an indian knock off
You can’t beat the older bonnet
What a great car! The motor has been well tested, so many tradesmen running around with there hilux loaded to the brink they never get unloaded and tow excavators regularly, i am one of those people, mine is the destroked 2.4l wormate version in 4x4 230000 kms, it runs absolutly perfectly and the auto is the best i have driven in a 4 cyl 4x4 diesel
I really like this. 4 cyl efficiency, 70 series offroad ability. Enough power for my needs.
Awesome. I look forward to getting the one I ordered. As I don't tow anything, the 2.8 and auto will suit me well.
According to Toyota, the 2.8 now has a new balance shaft, bigger oil sump and pump, better cooling and of course different intercooler.
So a Prado engine
@@crimzikk no further additions over a prado and yes aware Prado had some enhancements to enable it to tow 3t some years back.
About 50 nm up in prado Screw the boost baby ( and send the fuel with it more fan requires a lil more fuel But they have helped it some with a lil engineering Oil pump / pan capacity possibly ? Dead charge air has been somewhat addressed I spose they r trying They must b a tough lil engine What do yas think ? I recently watched a fellow with a ram truck 2nd gen 2500 dually with 5.9 Cummins with 560 ponies at the wheels and 1200 plus ft lb Achieve under 10 litres a 100 Thanks to compound turbos And a tricked 5 speed auto With very little smoke 26 .6 mile per us gallon On freeway And about 19 in the mountains
They would have needed to change the sump and move the oil filter to allow space for the live front axle.
Also interested in gear ratios, found the 70's to rev higher than 200's. Fuel economy, love it when people quote 8L/100
We had a bj70 swb 4 cylinder for years, it was a ripper! My first 4wd was a 4 cylinder S2 landy, all of my duel cab Ute's have been 4cyl. I love a v8, but I'd buy a 4cyl cruiser in a heartbeat!
I am driving a BJ70 3.4l 4 cyl n/a diesel since 20 years now and yes, i would absolutely love to have a brand new 2.8l 76 for daily driving and traveling. It is not as good looking as all the old narrow nose models but way better looking than the previous wide nose imho.
This new cruiser to me feels like an homage to the J40 in certain aspects but mainly the old school KZJ70 Prado, it's definitely a touching nod to how the Prado line up somewhat started with taking the 70series body and fitting little creature comforts (e.g power windows and automatic gearbox) with a still very capable engine on a smaller scale. Definitely a bonus for people that want to enter the "Full size" Cruiser scene without having to break their wallets (take that lightly😅). I for one am happy with the addition of the 2.8 into the line-up and a plus that Toyota didn't decide too discard the V8 means they definitely thought the engine choices through.
It's far better than people realise. Very efficient, & it actually does a decent job. The Auto actually shifts surprisingly smoothly .. Unfortunately we will lose the V8 Late in 2024 due to Euro 6 being mandated in Australia , & the the LC 300's V6 in a single turbo form is now probable to replace the V8. The 4 pot & V6 will be sold alongside eachother with the 2.8l being a few $$$$k cheaper . They finally started arriving into dealers about a month or so ago .
Also fuel efficient.
I am upset that the V8 will be discontinued purely because it was an entertaining engine that brought some modernised characteristic to the 70. But I guess that's how the cookies crumble in today's world. The V6 from the 300 will be a unit of an engine in something like the 70 and to watch a review on all 3 engine types in a comparison will be interesting to watch. I am somewhat disappointed that Toyota didn't correct the rear to stop it from crab walking on roads and fishtailing on sand but I believe they didn't really see that as a major flaw.
From a fuel economy perspective as well as reliability, I will definitely go for this...wish my 200 series had similar specs.
Great review. Ive been in the auction industry for 37 years. Driven everything. Vehicle of choice? Landcruiser. (You can see them in my profile photo). Ive had/have 40,60,80,100,200,75,78,79. Had a 300. Hated it. Theres some dumb stuff eg position of the fuel filter and rear tailgate. With the new 2.8 70 out, i wanted to see if incould live with the 2.8 and auto so i bought an SR hilux. Frankly, i think toyota are taking the piss out of us. The 70 used to be an axe. It had one purpose. Now its a hilux with a live front axle that toyota couldnt be bothered to correct (track issue). You get a 1984 body with a softer bonnet etc etc. and its $20,000 more than the hilux. I dunno mate but seriously… am i enjoying my first hilux? Yes. Which models do I miss? The 80 with the wuad valve turbo and the 2006 70 with that beautiful 6 cyl. Lucky i have my 1979 fj45 with a genuine 112,000km on the clock to remind me of what a real landcruiser is. Keep up the good work mate
Nice video mate! Clean edit, very informative, objective and entertaining. Keep it up... Love the look, love the option of an auto. Can't wait to see some of these getting around town, set up as tourers 😎👌
He is actually straight, sorry mate.
The choice of the 2.8 could be related to emissions regulations in Australia. In Laos the 70 series still has the 4.2 1HZ mated to a manual 5 speed with far less creature comforts, still the basic workhorse.
Nice video! I’m patiently waiting for the V8 wagon that I ordered back in April last year. Apparently it has recently gone into manufacture. As one of your guests on the video said, time will tell whether the 2.8 four cylinder will work with this car. Throwing the auto gearbox into it will certainly open it up to a wider market but am not sure if that’ll be enough to offset the proportion of punters turned off it by the lack of a V8. Why on earth they still haven’t changed the wheel track issue is beyond comprehension but I’m very happy about the LED lights.
Brilliant, I think the design will be a classic. Don’t be too hooked up on the 4 cylinder, a lot of manufacturers are going down this path. The monstrous Chevy Silverado is offered with a 2.7 four cylinder. I love the sand colour single cab - beautiful!! And Ronny - out of all the vehicles in all the world, in all the galaxies you forgot to mention the mighty Jimny as a front/rear solid axle vehicle. Don’t be surprised if you open your front door with 100 angry Jimnies looking at you, best you carefully, very carefully, look out the window first before opening the front door🤘
That's a nice looking GQ, nearly got as many modern features as a GQ too.
My 91 Jackaroo also has a 2.8 turbo diesel, power locks, aircon and looks near identical to a 76. Sounds like I won’t be needing to upgrade.
@@thomasjackson4743awesome vehicle mate!
‘Holy sh!t, two cup holders!’… Must be easy to impress a 70 series owner 😅
Much needed video. Cheers mate
I love the new front headlamps.
I have been driving a four cylinder, auto 70 series for eleven years. It's a 1991 70 Prado. It's only a 2.4 but if you drive it right, it's fine. Given a change I will pop a 1HDFT into it though. I just love straight sixes.
@@ozziefarmboy3569 Never mind the rear axle, it has two cup holders!
in the same boat but got me self a swb bj70 its got the 3,4l 4cyl na and its kept up with heaps of the bigger cars just got to know how to drive it and i am finally putting a turbo on it next week lol
Thats it, some people dont have that kinda common sense factor anymore 🤷♂️
I also drive a 2LTE 70series Prado. Its ok👍that GD would be a nice swap though.
Would it be technically illegal to put a HD into these cars due to emissions?
I reckon it will struggle with extra load at the back. Yes fuel economy is better when empty but when it’s loaded it will take its fuel. I own the 78 2022 and couldn’t be happier without the extra costs (simple windscreen, simple tech)
Love it been waiting for a Auto troopy forever. I just love the retro look
2022 78 Series owner here. I'm glad I got the model I did and after now having seen and read reviews, it's not something I see as an upgrade entirely. There are some good points and I like the look but if price was no option; I'd go the Ineos over the 70 series moving into the future. Especially now that a Mulgo pop top fits on the Ineos.
The foot well on the Ineos is a No Buy for me. Id rather have 3 Mahindras for the price.
The Ineos has to prove it's solved all the Landrover reliability & resale issues for a few years before I'll seriously consider it.
@@UncannySense have you actually driven an Ieos? It sure feels weird at first.. I am 190 cm tall and it wasnt an issue
Agreed, I am in Canada and we cannot get any of these nice 70 series from Toyota, this unit would suit all i need in a vehicle, i no longer need a V8, they are just personal choice anyways, and moving forward the Ineos Grenadier here in Canada starts at $91,929.00 CDN base price up to i think about$103,000.00 , well good luck trying to buy for the MSRP add a $20k premium to that or more depending on what part of the country you buy it from, the Trailmaster version specked out i have heard people paying upwards of $150k, it is just stupid greed and Canadians are the worst car buyers in the world, the cheapest/stingiest you'll ever find, I know i use to be in sales with GM Canada back in the day, i would really love a new base Grenadier, it has everything i need and has the BMW inline 6 cyl which is a good engine/trans combo, my buddies son is a BMWER TECH so i have no worries as you'd say 👍
@@99unclebobyeah can't wait to drive the Ineos Grenadier when they arrive soon at a local showroom.
I think picking the V8 or 2.8 will depend on how it's used, taking the auto out of the equation. If you intend to keep your setup relatively light (for a 70), then the 2.8 will probably be fine. If you're going to stretch your 79 and tow 2.5-3t behind it, you will need the V8
The old V8 has less power and torque than the 2.8
@@mickp1978pre tune
People are forgetting the old 70 6s are relatively gutless even turbo versions
@@mickp1978 Diesel tuners can boost the power significantly on the V8, the 2.8 wouldn't gain as much
@@seabee167HDFTE is far from gutless.
Great review Ronny..... I think the 2.8L 70s are going to be way more popular than most people imagined.
Good one Ronny, this is actually becoming attractive for me. thanks for the review, welldone.
I think it is a great addition to the range, it's just not for me. I also think test driving them around empty you will hardly notice a difference. We'll see the issues when people start kitting them out, loading them up and towing stuff around the country like we do with our manual v8s. I'd also then like to see a fuel economy comparison to v8, I bet the v8 will be better.
interesting! I'd be very surprised if the fuel economy is less than the V8 given less moving parts and more torque from the '4'. But the V8 is a very mild tune and has more head-room for tuning.. This will be fascinating to watch and see how it goes!
I did a Simpson crossing with my manual 2.8 Fortuner loaded to 3000kg GVM (about 400kg lighter than my mate in his 200 series and economy was line ball. Difference I had to thrash the 4 banger at times while the auto V8 cruised. Biggest issue - fuel tank size - my 80L vs my mates 125L - I had to carry 3 extra jerry cans….
That whole trip was 5600km in convoy. My fuel economy Birdsville to Mt Dare was 0.2L per hundred better than the V8. But will a V8 fit in the Fortuner engine bay???
bingo. suspect the v8 will be a bees dick more thirsty, unloaded, as you say, but once theres some load on there and you tune it up, you're likely to fall outside the little turbo's range and not be able to feed in more boost without significant heat soak (best case) and be more susceptable to poor tuning. probably the WORST thing for the v8 is the silly highway revs. 3k rpm... the hilux runs close to 2k rpm, thats a lot less friction. Toyota should have fixed that years ago.
@@jesse980315 They did fix it years ago though, they changed it back in 2017. My 2022 76 on stock tyres will sit on 2050rpm at 100 kph, about 2200 at 110kph. Worst thing now is the sloppy steering followed by the stereo, maybe the wheel track.
Why not offer this with the 6 cylinder from the 300 series?
I agree
They do offer a 6 cylinder petrol but only in some markets
It does need captain chairs or dual arm rests. Yes love cup holders! I have Fj and was excited to have more than 2!
That shot around 3:56 looks around Alice Springs/Central Australia...great review by the way!
I think the magpie at 13:00 has made the right choice! 👌
They always do.....
Can we see another review with 35’s on and real world weight added?
Awesome! Auto and 2.8, I want one. I’ve never been that interested in the v8 manual. My only worry is what configuration, dual cab, wagon or troopy. Great honest review, I’ve watched it twice and will watch it again. Thanks
You are so lucky to have the choise. In Europe we never had the chance to get the V8. And we do not know if we get the 2.8 Diesel, because some crazy politics say diesel is bad. Only available option is the thirsty V6 petrol. Nice engine but 16-18L/100km is a lot. That is the one of the biggest benefits of the 2.8 beside the automatic.
Always wanted to try out a v8 70 series... But started my Toyota journey with a 06' 100 series v8 petrol, then decided to be slightly more fuel efficient pathway of a 2018 Prado (underpowered GD version)... I quickly went on backwards to a 200 series pre dpf model. Having the Prado earlier, knowing its standard power to weight (loaded up on a trip) ... I can't be convinced the 2.8L on a 70 series would be able to match anything near the v8's under load conditions. I need a test drive to be convinced otherwise... Have to say, you don't look convinced either! 😂😅
do you know why you keep changing models.??..cos there all sht to begin with.. ive had my 4x4 since 1980,,never thought of upgrading,[ or down grading].. as it does everything i need. runs rings round jap 4x4rs.. &, the best thing,,its not a jeep.. did you ever,,consider buying an 80 series,, cos thats the only decent 4x4 toyta made.. but,,seems you missed that memo.. v8 79 series tdi.. all wrong. id rather have the alt, under the inlet,,not the starter..plus, 4.5,?, should of been at least 5lt.. with a 200 series rear diff, same width as the front,,??,, who does that??,, oh,,japs...
@@harrywalker968 Good question I ask myself that too 😂 Only answer I can really give is ... Because I can. After a few "accidents" ... Best to move on Let's not bring up the past hey! Only wish I was old enough to get myself an 80 series when they were out new But in all honesty - I agree with you, stuff built back in the days are so much better... Easier to fix Easier to manage
I i drive a prado diesel 90% the time in the city do you think the dpf will be a problem in the long run ?
@@JLPJLP-ue9nd was always very conscious of that as it was a school run car mostly. Every two or three weeks, I would always do a long highway drive. Could always tell when the dpf was running as you could smell and feel the engine respond a bit differently. No issues at all - it was always a bit under powered, especially on the sands of Fraser island. But it definitely enjoyed climbing through the Vic Highlands.
Thank you dude :)@@ngatiklau6044
Great idea! Everyone loved the 3L patrols and no one had any issues with them
Wait is this sarcasm the earlier ones grenaded wasn't till I believe 2007 onwards the sorted themselves out
I’d definitely would buy one because it’s an automatic. I have a lightweight set up when going out to the desert so the weight factor isn’t an issue.
Let’s wait for the upgrades first. Bar work and bigger tyres for me will be the deciding factor. Although tech has come far, the underlying issue is the power output verses the load. I’m assuming it’s already a heavier vehicle???.
I think this new 70 is going to be a big win. The 2.8l fuel economy is perfect for the non-hardcore overlander or non-offshore 2ton boat fisherman - who wants to daily their truck affordably. That's my reason I'll get one when they launch
Hey Ronny, Nice video as always. I always wondered whether you could run reversible wheels with the offset half way between the track difference front and rear. So basically you run them with more offset on the back and flip them round for less offset up front. That way you dont need to do the expensive fix
You can and people do. But the big issue is then you have to carry two spare tyres.
Using positive offset will put stress on bearings.
@@digvj93 so will 35’s and a lift and doing hard off road. Everything causes issues but we do it anyway lol
@@damo2664 I'm trying to explain that if the front was 100mm further out than the rear, and you got wheels offset 50 which were reversible, you could just have 1 spare and flip it depending on front or back. Just need non directional tyres
@@digvj93 the offset doesn't need to be too much, only half the difference in track
The review I was waiting for.
The narraw rear wheel track is not just because of the v8 engine but very popular mod for commercial use is to run dual wheels on the rear. Seen with extra heavy duty applications like spray trucks, mechanic and mining vehicles etc
Mad video Ronny, first proper in depth look for straya at the new 70’s coming. I’ll stick with the OG 78 series, you need that grunt of the V8 🍻
Looking forward to a tow test comparison between the 2.8 and the 4.5.
He has previously said that he won't be doing tow tests. Start your own KZhead channel if you want that sort of thing, don't demand it of others.
Yes, I like. Have had 90 series with wheezy 3l KZ motor at around 95kW and 350Nm and it did the job. Have also had the 76 V8 and had to ditch it (sob!) for a 150 Prado GD 2.8 to suit change of life. But it tows the same rig using a whack less fuel than the V8 and I don't do anything worse than Grade 3 anyway. Prado does just fine. Interested in putting a camper on the back of a 79 GD 2.8. Auto or manual, no matter.
this really looks great to me ... love it; i'll definitely buy it!🤩
The fact that Toyota is willing to make these retro off roaders is wonderful. I wish other automakers would consider it
yes like to see a Isuzu trooper , Mitsubishi montero , Nissan xetera , a gmc jimmy would be cool we do have the bronco and a new land cruiser for the U.S. , no 70 series , no diesel's
@@youtubecarspottersguide1gasoline is better in many ways: more powerful, larger power band when turbocharged, simpler, cleaner, more reliable, you just need to carry more jerry cans and be careful when filling up in remote areas, also stockpiling gasoline is more a short term thing as gasoline goes bad in a year or less
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 just wish we had LC 300, lc 70 series in the US gas would be ok to
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 yes that I totally agree, a base model 300 Series is still a very nice vehicle more comfortable than the Land Cruiser 250, the 4Runner, the Tundra, any other Toyota really. The 70 Series then with the 2.4L and 6-speed manual and 8-speed automatic from the Tacoma would be perfect, or just the 4.0L it currently has
as a mechanic in Australia the 2.8 is very unreliable lots of work especially to the head gasket leaking coolant and timing chains ratterling
Ive got the 2.8 done 170,000 kms and no leaks or any issues at all. Happy to buy another
I have read en watched a lot of reviews from mechanics. All of them are negative about the reliability of their brand. Because mechanics see the stuff that goes wrong and not the stuff that goes right. There might be slightly better engines for sale at the moment, but the 2.8 is as solid as they come in 2023.
Thanks for sharing.
this is the real dream of 4x4 vehicles, i´m in love with it
Funny thing is that although the diesel V8 is absolutely iconic in the 70 series, it's actually only been there since 2007 (same time as the 200 series was released, in which it gets one more turbo and 60 more kilowatts). So the 70 series has actually spent longer - 23 years (1984-2007) without a V8, versus 17 years (2007-2024) with one...
I’m so glad someone else has pointed this out. I’ve been driving Landcruisers for nearly as long as they’ve existed, my first being a 49 series. It always amuses me when I hear all these “boys” banging on about the V8 engine, they do it in a way that you’d think the first combustion & only cumbustion engine in them had been a V8 oiler. It’s comical really. It’s almost as if these things were only discovered in 2007 🤣. Most the children driving them couldn’t drive to save themselves either.
Only since 07? That’s nearly 20 years lol
@@pana1707i guess your one of the children hes talkin about😂theyv been makin them for over 60 years
had the 22r in the bundera, loved that car, but grossly underpowered
We need to do a comparison between the v8 and the 4 cylinder
They widened the front for the coils not the engine. The leaf sprung GU ute is the same and some of the last 79’s with the 4.2 had coil front they had the wider front axle too
Just a heads up, In Australia now,say you do your red plate test in an auto all it means now is you can’t drive manual till green plate plates, once on greens it’s like you have a full license so to speak and can drive both transmission type, great video bro 🫡
Hey Ronny, I have a 200 but have had a 40, 73, 120 & FJ Cruiser. I love the idea of a Landcruiser as a base to build on, but especially with this engine configuration, they simply can't ask for the price tag they previously had. A simple vehicle without the tech, without the V8 should be priced as such.
I totally agree. Pricing has gotten out of hand and it now doesn't reflect what the vehicle is. This happened because people will buy it anyway.
hey buddy,,why would you spend 70k on a fkn pos, then another 30k, fixing the gutless pos.. fj crusier,,why,??.. watch. offraod hub,,might learn something,,. last half decent toyota 4x4, was the 80 series.. you have more money .. nissan gu, better wheel base, stronger front diff, p/s. transmission brake.. but, its still jap..& no, i dont drive a fkn jeep..i have a 4x4, factory, with 700nm, 14 lt 100. pulls 4.5t all fkn day, runs rings around jap sht..& no computer to fk up.. toyota never advanced,,they went mall yupi..as has nissan.. anything with ifs..is a no, no.. or drive it in paddocks..toyota are like the cartoon,, guy buys a new car,, salesman,,'' would you like a steering wheel & 4th tire with that.?.''. mate bought a 76 series, had toyota fit it out, 25k later,, still got bogged..with 2 lockers.. towed out.. cost 115k all up.. sad.. jeep rubicon, 3 lockers, d44 diffs, unshitable, 70k..std.. but, too small, & they self ignite.. like ev,s.. 110 landrover, mechanically perfect design,, but they break.. twin cab utes,,useless.. we have no choice here in aus.. we never get the export 4x4rs.. or trim levels..ive had 1, 4x4, for 15 yrs.. that,,shows how good it is.. built in 1980..still on the road doing it.. if it aint broke, dont fix it..[ or buy the next model].
There is no escaping the Toyota Tax.
Just get used to it. You will die waiting for a cheap Toyota
Over 2 years I’ve been waiting for mine. 4.5 V8.
26 months for me and still no build date. Toyota are a absolute joke!
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“Holy shit,there’s two cup holders” 🤣🤣
You Aussies are so lucky you can buy these 70 series. Wish we could get them here in the US.
2.8 is right for me. I am not an off-roader but I would love a simple car with proven reliability. This setup has been proven on the Hilux, Prado and Fortuner for 2/3 years.... I mean, those are proper tests. With the V8 I think that is way more than I need (I do not tow anything) and the gas mileage is not affordable for me.
Not having a god at you. But this boggles my mind, you literally described what this Landcruiser is built for, while saying you don’t do it, yet implied you’re still going to get one? I just don’t comprehend it, and some many people do the exact same thing.
it doesnt really make sense to say that you can afford one, but not the fuel - these are still expensive vehicles
sounds like the 4cyl is tuned to near max capacity whereas v8 detuned is not as stressed so will it last longer ?
The 70 series has always had its own motor and at least a 6 cylinder at that. I think changing to a hilux 4cyl engine was quite silly (in my opinion). I think by the time you load the 4 cylinder up with weight the fuel consumption will be through the roof. I currently have a 2.8ltr hilux 2016 and when loaded up with my trailer etc it is very sluggish. I towed my trailer with a mates 2020 79 series v8 and it didn't miss a beat. Pulled way better and easier than my hilux did. I have bought the new 79 single cab but in the v8 variant. Can't wait!!!
Thanks Ronny for the great video 💪🏾💪🏾👍🏾👍🏾
It’s a shame they didn’t use the lc300 v6 engine.
Damn... this surely is on my buy list... thanks for the into...
Having an auto makes it so much more attractive. I’ve always had manuals but once I went to an auto for sand driving it’s a game changer. And with a partner with an auto licence it ticks boxes the LC76/79 hasn’t been able to before. I’m in on it. The 2.8 will be fine for most. It just sucks that they charge such a price for what is a very basic vehicle. This is what puts it out of reach for many, myself included.
I agree the price was for the soils diffs and the v8. Now they have taken 50% of what people wanted away. Yet charging the same price
Buy a hilux if you want an auto 4cyl
@@Matthew-ll9ke exactly all the 70 series has going for them is the v8 and the solid front diff. Everything else sucks to be honest.
You're paying for Japanese labour and construction. If you don't like it buy Thai.
@@damo2664 does the 4cyl not have a live front axle?
Nice stuff, Ronny. I would like one. I reckon a number of people have got partners who aren't exactly inclined towards manual shifters amongst a host of other reasons, and there are days they need to drive. So, because of the autobox, I'd have one.
P**sy. Only real men drive manual
Terrific review Ronny, I have had a V8 on order for just short of two years and still no build date.
Nice one Ronny I think what people have to look at is that Toyota has pulled some more horse power ( Torque ) out of this 2.8L and how much can you safely and reliably get out of this engine for its long jeopardy , if it has to be working harder to do the same as what the V8 can do . And also the V8 is so under tuned as you all would know by watching Ronnie's channel , you can safely get more power out of these V8's its just a shame that Toyota hasn't done that in the 70 series as the 200 series is twin turbo's that must produce more power than the single . Yes I understand it is more about the Torque factor with Diesels and the 70 being a more work off road vehicle than the 200 or 300 series, the automatic well 200 are only auto's why haven't they put that as a option for a V8 70 series. Is fuel economy a issue absolutely just look at how much a liter it is now and as history has shone us it is only going to keep going up so a more fuel efficient 70 would be much appreciated .
Horsepower and torque are different though yeah?
@@coreygolder6503 Yeah Corey Torque is usually produced at lower rev rang and diesels are not normally a engine that has high revs compared to a petrol engine that is. Adding turbochargers , intercoolers and a common rail like all the new diesels engines have now really make so much more torque out of a smaller engine . it also helps majorly in fuel consumption properly tuned of cause .
@@gregbrown5473I know they’re different but generally you can’t have one without the other too much? I’ve heard it described as, horsepower is how hard you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you after you hit it.
@@coreygolder6503 well that’s a rough way of looking at it have a look at a dyno graph when there remapping the computer on electronic set up or there tuning the fuel delivery on a older engine that has had a turbo fitment done . There is two graphs one for torque the other will be your horsepower ( which is kilowatts now) yes of course if you increase your torque you will get more horsepower. But on a diesel it is more about the torque factor than the HP that your going for that comes in at a lower rev range and with out trying to get into the other mechanicals involved like different cam shafts that will have a lot to do with it to . They have apparently got more torque out of this 4cyld 2.8 ( 550 nM ) than the earlier 4.5 V8’s , not sure what the later ones are delivering .
@@gregbrown5473500.
The wider track in the front could be left there in case the 2.8 is a sales failure. The v6 out of the 300 could replace it easily without much modification I suspect. The 2.8 engine does not perform very well loaded and towing. I own a Hilux and I wouldn’t replace it with a 2.8 Landcruiser.
the solution would be to widen the rear axle to match, so it doesn't matter what engine goes in the front. it's a joke that a 4x4 has different wheel tracks. any other make or model of car would have the Toyota owners in stitches
@@michaelbaylis1631 I agree. It’s a joke Toyota put that 2.8 litre engine in a Landcruiser. The 4 cylinder twin turbo ford ranger outperforms the Hilux engine.
@@toejoe5076 You're right but the ford motor blows up a lot easier. The VW v6 petrol in the raptor is being replaced if they can't fix it's issues.
@@davideyers9405 Fair enough. It doesn’t change the fact that a lot of people will not buy the Landcruiser 2.8 litre if they want a vehicle to cart big loads or tow. The 4cylinder engine does not have the torque , especially in hilly country. No matter what spin anyone puts on it.
@@toejoe5076 Yep, agree. I tow a 2.9t boat with an N80 2.8 Hilux and the only way it does it is because it's manual. The 2.8 auto in the cruiser won't be that good. I'm going for more torque next car because the Hilux is on it's limits.
Aircon is a comfort so anything on top of that is a bonus, well done Toyota for recognizing some of us just want a lower cost basic 4wd without all the bell's & whistles that is reliable and has a solid feel to it. I'm sure it will be a popular model, I for one like the Troopie.
At the end you neglected to mention the solid front & rear axels of the Jimny. - Yes, it is a very small vehicle, but nevertheless it has solid axels and it is one heck of an off-roader.
It really pissed me of how evey new generation still won't fix the rear axle. The 2.8 is a nice option to have but it should have a manual option
Manual 6 gear
I have no issue with the 2.8; with the DPF, on the other hand...🙈 For a global overlanding tourer, a DPF becomes a big issue anywhere outside of Australia, Europe & N. America... The quality of the diesel causes it to clog up. It's also an issue at high altitudes, where the thinner air prevents it from regenerating properly. While I don't condone removing it for in-country touring, it's a must if you plan on traveling internationally
And freez around -20…
Nope..backward step. Who would buy this and what for.
@@waynereeves7383 is it Australia version the same as versions for usa and Canada? I dont want any hybrid bullshit not worth it in Yukon…
Top mount water cooler sounds intersting heat rises - doing tougher tracks/sand in aussie summer. Also have to pay close attention on water pressure as a leak or looses connection will cause overheating.
I’d buy one. They look good
I'd buy that Diesel engine in a heartbeat in USA. Toyota just doesn't want my money.
It's looking more and more like a range rover with every model.
Except you don't need an auto-electrician and a mechanic sitting in the back at all times 🤷🏻♂️
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@@FishandHuntthere is allways one isnt there its pathetic
@@FishandHuntyour own personal pit crew
@@Bluetongue. Yip 😂
The 70 looks awesome.
If I had the money, i would easily get a new 2.8l 70. i really like it and appreciate the simplicity of it
Im not a fan of any v8 petrol or diesel but i don't think it has enough to tow after mods are done
It has more power than the V8?
If it's anything like the hilux. It will struggle to tow. You can't go past a v8 for towing
@@anth1839 the 2.8 has more torque than the V8 hahaha?
@@Bigsoot7393 Torque is deliverd earlier in the V8 and lasts till 3200rpm where as the hilux engine drops off way earlier and kicks in at 1600rpm my hilux is a pig for towing compared to my old V8 landcruiser . I would have to drive a new 4cyl 70 series but I reckon it will be a while before you can get your hands on one.
@@anth1839 yeah but it's auto so it stays in the torque curve for you, I dunno I always laugh at my cousin in his V8 back to second gear up a hill out of a dam where my ranger does it effortlessly haha
I’m open minded to the idea of a 4 cylinder. I would love to see a comparison of the 4 cylinder and 8 on a road trip loaded up and towing. Of course time will tell the long term reliability of the engine.
6 gear manual + 2.8 💪
So surreal.. I saw this exact car on the back of a transport truck just the other day. Perth is a small place.
I would buy it in a heartbeat...the 2.8 is a light engine & weight I think helps a lot in vehicle dynamics & its a proven engine so I have no doubt it would stand the test of time..I just sold my V8 LC100 & I miss that V8 already so I feel you but I think keeping an open mind to the smaller more efficient engines isnt bad especially when they go with a decent transmission!
I had to look it up and I'm still in disbelief that you all require a separate and more expensive addition to your license to drive A MANUAL TRANSMISSION!!????!
In south africa when you do your drivers test you choose whether to use a manual or automatic. If you pass in an automatic car then your license restricts you to automatic vehicles only. If you pass in a manual car then you can drive both auto and manual vehicles 😅
@@floofy117 I'm replying to Shaun since KZhead won't let me reply to him directly. I know you wont believe me but yes, here in America I was taught to drive a manual before I was old enough to have a license at all, I received my first permit in 2006.a manual transmission is no different than an automatic in terms of licensing and measurable difficulty. @ShaunMcCarthy-dw9oy
That’s not correct in Australia if you choose to drive auto only then for 3 years you can only drive auto but once you pass the 3 years then you can drive manual. But if you do your test in a manual car then you can drive both
It's not dearer mate and probably one law that actually makes sense hahq
Personally I think the V8 fanboys are scared of the 2.8 showing them up. The same way lifted 4WDs with a Kings awning wet themselves when a stock Jimny turns up.
If they are the same price I don’t see why you’d go with a smaller engine
The last landcruiser I bought was a BJ 73 in 1985 3 bt engine big torquy 4 cylinder motor Would out pull any 6 cylinder of the day Looks great and Ronny simple don’t put 35 in tyres on it and then you get all the gears Does it still have windy windows
"What do you think?" I think its bloody awesome, looking forward to them becoming available in NZ! Great review Ronny, Cheers mate.