Laser Welder from China- How does it Weld?
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I purchased a laser welding machine directly from a manufacturer in china. Just trying to go through the paces and figure it all out on my own #chiassonsmoke #welding #diyprojects #laserweldingmachine
The issues with gaps suggests this system is more suitable for production of fabricated designs with machine cut or carefully hand fitted parts rather than general repair.
It has an adjustment on the machine to weld different gaps. With the double wobble machine you can adjust the weld bead to 5 mm wide.
Mine will do 3mm, but I just give it another pass
Use Tig welding rods
@@kingrutse3278 like hillbilly welding? Fill the gap with filler metal, then weld over it? I know guys who do alot of stick welding will put electrodes in crazy gaps, but they're usually welding steel at least a quarter inch thick.
then just use a regular welder!
I have a 1500W laser welder. I have had it about 1-1/2 years now. Gun angle is important to get a good weld. Wire diameter makes a big difference as well. The larger the better. I run 1/16" wire most of the time on mild steel, .045 on aluminum and stainless. I would be happy to discuss with you some pointers on making work better for you if you want. Just let me know.
Just bought 1.5 Kw laser welding machine. Can you gabe some advice about working parameters?
@@user-fs8kc3fy2m Ware do you order your 1/16 wire from?
What is the name brand on yours if I may ask?
Great comment. Welding with a laser is just different. He needs to get some help and his attitude toward the laser will change. It isn't perfect but nothing is. Right now he seems more skeptical about it than anything.
i also have a 2 year old laser welder and im about to change it, the handle and the cable weight kills the wrist, just love the machine but the ergonomics are horrible when working with them
Thanks for taking the time to film and post.
You bet
Where did you purchase this from? Link please?
Really informative presentation. I look forward to seeing more complex uses as you learn the tool.
Great vid! Thanks for taking the time to show us what a machine like this is like!✊
You should start up a group. You could call it, "Laser Welders Anonymous." As with all high tech products that hit the market, it's only a matter of time before these Laser welders get smaller, cheaper and more versatile.
Thanks for letting us see what its like!
I've alway wondered how these work. thanks for the video
Excellently presented and very informative! We definitely owe you a beer! Best of luck!
Nice machine, however, as you know, it's hard to get perfect fit up every time. But still interesting, would like to see more. I WAS in the welding business for over 20 years and it's still interesting. Thanks from northern Illinois.👍
It does not need perfect gap. You can adjust the width of the weld on the machine.
This thing would be awesome for auto body, welding, vintage vehicles
Thanks for the test info
I’ll be following along to see what you do with this I love the easy clean up on the rust that’s awesome honestly you could start a business on just offering cleaning like that in my opinion now water no sand would perfect
I used to operate a 8000 watt dual head laser welder. We used it to butt weld steel coils together. The two major problems we had was gap issues and the heads not tracking the seem but after a few upgrades the machine worked awesome. We could weld a 60 inch wide strip in about 15 seconds. There can not be any gap and the laser has to track center or the weld will break.
glad your honest about your review, I would buy it for thin material...
From what I have been "TOLD" Fit up is crucial, as you mentioned they don't like gaps (the laser has to hit a surface to provide heat) Everything has to be CLEAN, there is very little heat (compared to TIG, MIG etc.) to burn off contaminants. GREAT on thin gauges (that low heat thing again) Autogenous welds are fun. Treat it like a low temp TIG Again, it's what I have been told, so YMMV
Great point that the laser has to hit a surface!!... Im looking at a 2k raycus 3 in 1 on amazon
I am guessing it will be excellent in certain applications and have other benefits,be interesting to see what they are,regards from England,used a Miller 200 dx for ten years,best welder ever,in my opinion.
This is a rad channel. I'm enjoying your content. This video was the kind of stuff I've been wanting to see lately. Keep killing it man!
Pretty cool. I wish they would have better written instructions for English and translation of parameters for what our welders are used to seeing. More extensive welding and NDT testing would be cool to see. More videos. It's pretty interesting. Good job.
Dang nice piece!❤!
I have regularly visited Aliexpress to explore various welders, and have often found myself hesitant due to the pricing structure. Your recent video has further diminished my interest in this particular welder. From my perspective, it seems less accommodating for amateurs, prompting me to continue using my existing Mig/Tig welders for the time being. I hope the manufacturer will address the issues you highlighted and improve the design accordingly. I appreciate your detailed review and demonstration of the welder's functionality. It has been informative and has guided me in making a more informed decision about not purchasing this machine at this stage. Thank you for sharing your insights.
I can see how this would be useful for replacing body panels in automotive restoration/ RestoMod work. Often times the replacement panels are about 19-20 gauge and traditional tig welding is more time consuming and throws down a larger weld.
Maybe if it weren't for the gap issue. You'd have to cut a perfect replacement out. Might as well stick with tig since you can fill small gaps with filler rod
@@velvetypotato711 MIG brazing (and TIG brazing which you can also do with MIG brazing wire and pure argon like TIG) is increasingly popular for body work.
What is price this machine welding
Good honest description and demo. Thank you. These videos are worth their weight in gold. Seems a great welding machine for tacking and serious model work, as for welding underneath cars hardly practical but for the likes of myself it would be fine for small jobs taking note of clean materials and gaps in hand, you have shown me it may well be worth having. I shall cogitate over this for a while before the land grab :)
worth the price? lol! NO!
great video... always wondered how good those laser welders worked...
Thanks for the video. I seen these around, I went to the manufacturing shows to see these machines setup with cameras and precision controls doing some fantastic precise welding. Now showing these with that much power, 900 Watts for a hand held LASER is something. The process, the skill must meet you will get there I am sure. Technology once imagined now a reality, Einstein showed it could be done then in the 60's with a Red Ruby they made happen, now at our finger tips. Pretty cool. Cheers!
1500 watt machine is pretty common now.
So, it's like a TIG and a MIG all rolled up in one with a bulky gun . Makes prettier welds than both (with less practice for a nice TIG look) , but has a problem with changing over to different materials . Wire changes would be a pain, especially all the different choices for stainless and aluminum . And then the cost . Last I heard they weren't priced like a little Primeweld . Like you said, it would be good at thin no gap jobs . :)
Wire change is simple. Remove one spool install a new spool. Welds many different types of metal. Even different types to each other.
@@HP31where do you get these?
Great to see a good honest review on one of these things. Thanks for sharing.
New tech is always fun to play with. Does it weld aluminum?.
well it makes sense that it doesn't like gaps, the laser looks straight through that gap to the other side of the work piece. Unlike an arc which jumps from side to side.
Ive done some tig and gas welding, this is kind of impressive and looks almost as clean as tig. Wonder if there would be a cutting attachment as a bonus for an all in one unit, that cuts cleans and welds.
They should definitely do it but I'm diggin that 300 render just as much, if not more.
Kitchen builders will love it, for excavator, good old stick/TIG machine with lots of amps, for me!
What brand is this laser welder? Thanks
Good video, I was keen to see how this kind of welder performs. Just one thing, I think you really should wear a full-face visor otherwise you could still get UV burns on your face. I think the gap filling issue might be improved with larger welding wire and higher wattage.
What's the manufacturer's name and the model # of your welder?
If there is a gap can you use a bigger wire? Also I heard you can make the laser swing wider.
6:06 Wrap that corner like a true welder! This machine is good for manufacturing small parts on a production line, but the average welding shop wouldn't need it much. Have you considered getting a manufacturing contract for small thing and hiring someone to run the laser welder? Then you can GO FISHING!! Yeah, I am going to give you crap about that from now on.... Love the channel!
If you want to Fill, crank up the wire feed rate, but slow the drag. It'll do what you want it to do.👍👍
Could you show us what the cutting is like? Like you I have a plasma table - but wonder if one of these could give me better / finer cut quality, particularly on small parts?
I think it would be good for things like auto body, decorative things like flower garden entry gates, picture frames, motorcycle gas tanks, and other jobs that require a thin extremely uniform welds. If a person had a business that specializes in that kind of stuff I can see getting one. I'll stick with my stick, mig, tig, and oxyacetylene for the stuff I do though. Tig can do all the fancy stuff too just takes a lot longer, but I don't get a lot of projects that require me to do that stuff.
Agreed, though with new tech being developed daily there are 3kW machines that do a nice job on thicker 1/2 inch plate, only a matter of time before these machines will handle 2-3 inch plate, if it's not already available.
Makes sense that it won't fill gaps. If it is using the laser to heat/weld the metal, a gap gives the laser no place to focus the heat, except on the filler material. If you have a gap, then you would either have to machine the metal to tighter tolerances or build up from each side. Just my $.02 worth.
Looks like it would be very useful if you find that specific application for it. What's the name of the machine/where'd you get it?
I'm guessing it might be useful if you're welding the same pre-fab thing over and over because of its speed?
This thing has its limits but it has two *major* advantages: Extremely low power consumption when compared to a regular MIG so you can weld on the move, and the ability to actually see where you're welding, instead of only seeing the melt puddle.
gaps aren't necessarily a problem. its a settings thing. I tried it to at a fair and it worked fine. also your feed rate seemed a bit slow. am i wrong?
It causes the beem to wobble back and forth in width. Yes it's on your machine. You'll need to find it as I'm not Sure where it is on your panel.
What’s a “beem”? Did you mean *beam?
@@teeanahera8949 Yoy point the beem at the seem. You know what I meen?🤪🤪
Looking at the amount of sparks, did you first do a focus test/calibration? You will get better and cleaner welds.
That would be great for welding large steel and aluminum tanks. Even welding some thinner pipe. Maybe joining copper tubes?
Get real high quality laser goggles that are matched to the wavelength of the laser on the machine. Those cheap ones that come with it can make you end up blind.
More info on the machine itself would be appreciated.
If you were able to get the bigger tips and wire id would be great to see how well it works on the gapped joints
👍👍👍 Greetings from Finland.
i replaced mosfets in the induction heater board kit. not exact and just popped. i will try another board at 7 volts. the newer mosfets use a positive voltage to start conducting. john fron 1960's torrance was burning a tube of aim toothpaste. i think he worked on led screens. probably unloaded a shipload of color chemicals. i have an attempt at running a 60hz inverter. i burned out an early inverter trying to run a small microwave.
I think you may've found your niche for KZhead content, views, and exposure my guy. I noticed those numbers from the laser video. 😆 The more views you get, the more toys you can buy for the shop... show momma that ROI. She'll be happy. Keep it up man.
There's no much real field welders out there with this toy to show, and make a true opinion on this machine. Keep videos coming... Try different things.
@@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 Ya, I know he's not the first, or only one to do a welder/welding review video.... but that doesn't negate the fact that this video has become his most successful one he's ever created. Its gotten crazy engagement and views compared to anything he's ever put out.
If I'm not mistaken you can set up for a wider pass to weld with.
in a production environment, this is supposed to be used with CNC cut tubing which fits perfectly together. if you manually cut or your joint is not perfect, it is hard to achieve good weld.
it'll be interesting to see how you experience the life cycle on the fiber optic element.
In my experience, tool/machine life is directly influenced by the chynesium content.
Where can I buy one?
Maybe good for socket welds on sanitary pipe?
Ive only seen shops use this for cheap, "assembly line" type of welds on thin sheets of alloys. What use is a welder that can't handle a gap? Whether it be structural or pipe, proper fit up almost always REQUIRES a gap. I'll stick to my mig welder, thank you very much.
So I live in China and I found this machine on their equivalent of Amazon here, and it's $150usd. But there were a ton of them that were like $50-75. Issues aside, China is an amazing place to be to buy electronics and tools. My 150" motorized projector screen cost me 60 bucks, my burr-grinder (for coffee) cost me maybe $15, my 8k screen (yes, 8k) cost me about $400. All tools, including power tools, cost basically nothing---I have a USB charged miniature spray-paint gun, I think it cost me 4 bucks? Anyway--if you want more info about brands, factories or places to buy this stuff, happy to help.
Thanks for the info what about pipe welding how it does on that thanks
how about the heat onto the metal ? is it better than a tig mig one?
Is it pull only? Just wondering if it would fill better with pushing? You did say theres no feel and im assuming you mean the wire. It looks pretty cool especially for light steel, can it weld all types of metal? Hoping to see more of your testing!
If you set the wire speed and watts correctly you feel the wire pushing you along.
I wonder how long does thff Ed machine will last.
hope to see your review on thicker materials.
Like TIG welding we need filler material. For larger gap can we increase the filler rod feed speed.
How much was it?
Cool machine welded all my life and would love a try out . Can you tell me how much . Machine was ? Hipe your stil practicing 👍👍👍🏴🦕🦄😁🤞✌️
I'd like to see it on 1/4 inch plate. Something that won't need as easy. Although that was a solid weld
I would bet its not the fact that it wont fill gaps but be the fact the laser has nothing to hit. Laser hitting the metal is how the heat to melt the metal is transferred. So if the laser is shooting through the gap then no heat is being transferred to the metal trying to be welded. But if you run a larger puddle of metal i would bet you would have better luck. Slow down your movements and maybe speed up wire some. No experience with laser welders but have done a lot of welding. Would be nice to mess with one tho. Seem pretty neat.
Does it also come with a torch head to cut?
Could you solve the gap problem by putting a length (or two) of wire in it, and welding on top of that?
Yes! Laser welders are not ideal for welding gaps... but there's a trick. Obviously depending on the gap, you can use the electrode wire as a filler by feeding it. On wider gaps you can actuality not use the laser's wire but use tig welding rods. You basically use the tig's rods as a filler. I think as of the cosumer's available technology, the laser welder cannot replace the TIG welder but it can certainly fill in the gap for new users and the capacity for fast welding. Quality of welds are not bad, so there's definitely a place for these laser welders.
I make RVS puzzles. Thinking it would be great to weld the joints of 5mm thick material
Cost?
Hey what is the brand ?
Does turning the wobble up help with the slight gap ?
Can you tell were you got these machine
Could this be used for repair of military vehicles like tanks or apc
Light Saber welding- I was wondering if something like this exists after getting into laser engraving- I kinda want a laser cutting pen similar to this so that I can burn/draw on things with it.
My understanding was that you let the wire push the gun, is that not true? They do seem like their best application is perfectly fitted joints, tiny welds, no warpage and high speed.
LKaser weldingdoes not rely on grounding. The gap welding required manual circular moveement by the operator or thare are also guns that have a very small rotating / scanning prism that rapidly span gaps as the operator manually sweeps a handheld .045" non flux core welding wire media across the gap to maintain a puddle hot enough to cause penetration.
As an artist, I'd need to know the cost to see if it's reasonable. With my husband doing the big, serious stuff and me doing the fine projects, we'd be a great team, but I couldn't see myself spending more than $300 for the whole thing. I'm also curious about sourcing the consumables. Where do we get those?
Um, how much is it?
So what does it cost!
The sizexof the beads looks like it would be perfect for small prisision welds but i cant see iron workers using it to vuild sky scrapers or pipeline welding. Or robotic welding would be nice with it
Could you weld like TIG using it as the torch with a filler rod?
You can try. It has a spot function. You can tack without the wire or use a nail if you want so long as it is shielded with gas
Nice introduction! Can it weld other metals, like aluminum or titanium?
All i see is lead welding, other videos as well. I wouldn't this welding machine unless you house roof repair.
@@stinopharan5528 no lead here
does it cleans and how low and it go on watts i just ordered one for auto restoration paint and rust removal and i am curious how low in amps can you get and how is it going to work and not warp the auto panels.
I'm now following your channel. I want to know how many watts you have purchased and how much. And see what it is capable of in your hand. Nice work on your channel too by the way
@@paulnewton943 1500 watts and it was 52 I just placed the order
@@paulnewton943 it has the Hanwei controller it has several different features yours does not have. I can't wait to have it in my hands
Also... you're moving at a snails pace compared to how ive seen these used. Maybe bumping up the power and wire feed, will make it more like spray trasfer than short circuit? In my experience, butt welds are almost always cosmetic.
Cleanliness isnt as critical with laser welding as the laser is cleaning too. When you have gaps, use filler rod if needed, if its a smaller gap then thicker wire can help too and you set the laser to span the distance. As with anything, its all about learning how to use it
What was the price tag to get the setup that you were demoing in the video?
Thank you for the review. Very informative. Can you weld aluminum with this welder?
Yes you can!
Welds probably any material that can melt.
Hi what is the cost of this an can you buy here S/Africa.....cape town???
@@chrislingham757 Jy kan dit invoer. Google dit net en let op na die invoerbelasting ! Die masjiene is noggal duur en nie die moeite werd nie. fluxcore is maar altyd n wenner. Tig is natuurlik n goeie keuse as jy regtig n netjiese sweis naat wil behaal
V interesting thank you.
is it 110 or 220?
honestly i'm glad to hear it's not just another scam from china and it really does weld, seeing you wack on that weld with a hammer and it not break was very impressive, i was sure it was going to just snap off.......
How much does one of these things cost? and where do you buy them from?
How much this unit costs
How does it do with lap weld?