How Laser Cleaning Deep Cleans 40 Years Of Rust On Cars | Insider Cars
Laser cleaning is a process in which a specific frequency of light is used to target surface rust, contaminants, and residues. It was originally an industrial tool used on production lines.
Content creator Workshop Rebuild is an early adopter of using this technology for car-restoration purposes. With its precise ability to remove rust without damaging the metal substrate, this technology has the potential to save delicate restoration projects and can serve as a great all-purpose tool for removing contaminants and residues.
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How Laser Cleaning Deep Cleans 40 Years Of Rust On Cars | Insider Cars
As someone who has spent endless hours with a wire wheel this was very satisfying to watch.
Looks a lot safer too
Wish I had one.
For anybody who had spent a lifetime scraping and brushing rust by hand, it must have been very satisfying to see the first wire wheels in action. I can imagine that the level of excitement would be very similar.
@@davidsnyder3799 ok boomer
@@FCVP71 lol nob head
So now we have to wait until the chinese come up with a 2500 instead of a 50000 dollar machine
Lmao now we got trust sending 2500 to qping or autool
A 2000w laser cleaner will cost you 5k from china without factoring in shipping
2500 with the usual caveats like only use if you dont value your hands.
@@THE16THPHANTOM these are laser cleaners and nof laser cutters, so they don't work on skin.
I could literally spend all day in a junkyard with this tool in a state of total zen.
This is a pretty cool tool. I'm a retired motorcycle technician and machinist and when cleaning engine and chassis parts we used a glassbead machine that used air from a compressor with very fine glass. It worked well and didn't remove any metal from steel, but you could see the aluminum changing ever so slightly so you couldn't stay in one spot for more than a fraction of a second especially on gasket surfaces and other vital areas. This laser tool is pretty awesome and I would love to try it out one day before I kick the bucket. 😁 There's also a ultrasonic hydro resurfacing machine that uses a special cleaning solution and water can be added to dilute to be more cost effective and won't decrease the strength of the cleaning solution unless too much water is used. I've seen the results of many metal types and they looked just as good if not better then when it was new from the factory. Caution: When using the laser tool, you must always keep it away from any body part because it will cause severe burns. Great demonstration.
The price for the clening machine
Yikes, hopefully it didn't affect your lungs 😬
@@Nutella2004 From what I remember the seals on both doors worked well, but the window seal leaked at times. We weren't smart enough to wear a mask so we had to position ourself so we weren't breathing in the fine dust that came out. I'm sure we still breathed in some. One other thing was every now and then the glass had to be replaced because you couldn't see through it. My boss finally bought some clear sheets to tape on the inside. I taped about 5 at one time, staggered and all you had to do was pull the tape in a certain spot to remove one sheet. Well one day my boss pulled all five at one time. I told him what I did and the look on his face was like, oh. Never forget that.
@@brgelimborg1978 That I don't know. Probably not cheap.
@@brgelimborg1978 there are many and prices are coming down but they run around 50k
Fun fact: Light is an excellent disinfectant. This would be great for cleaning your stove and countertops. Can’t wait for Shark to introduce a home version for only 3 payments of $49.95.
Some more Fun facts: Germs or viruses can't survive without water. They also can't survive heat above a certain temperature. They also can't survive surface disinfectants with a sufficient amount of alcohol. So why would you need a laser for cleaning your stove and countertops?
@@angela1984a Duh, the fun factor of course.
If this really works as nice as it looks (and without damaging the surface) it will be revolutionary. This can cut-down the time and effort of a restoration of a car a lot.
Do you think it was fake or computer generated cleaning and he lied? What do you need to convince you it was all real??? DUH.
How much to buy one of those please
@@sonacphotos thank u
@@sonacphotos Where can i buy this from bro
@@sonacphotos forgot to add a 0
A quick search and it appears that one of these wizbangs start around $9k and go up to $14k for a bigger bang … not cheap, but for a shops maybe looking to eliminate certain types of wastes … but there still will be fumes to vent at any scale. It will be interesting to see how this tech moves into use.
It absolutely will and does. I mean think what a proper sandblasting booth costs!
You could buy a decent car for that sort of money 💰 🤑 😄 🤣
That's actually very affordable. I was thinking $40k range.
When I first saw them demonstrated around ten years ago, the prices were over $75K. Glad to know they're coming down. Not into hobbyist range, but on the right trajectory.
@@carlarthur4442 My car cost 3k and worked well for 5 years so yeah, damn
Great overview, thanks for the clear demonstration. As a regular person who doesn't work in fabrication or repair, I did not even know that these machines now existed. It is nice to discover videos like this one on KZhead because they provide 101-level education to the rest of us, at affordable prices (YT Premium pays for itself through educational value, if one uses it right).
А по проще можно а то витиевато как то
can it bring down a UFO ?
What kind of educational content is available on YT premium that's different/better than what's available for free? I'm truly interested as the number one thing im interested in is educational content.
@@rocklobstar5672 Hi, You are correct that even a free YT account can access all of the good educational content, it just has to sit through a lot of ads/commercials in order to get to it, and it can get to be annoying or discouraging to keep sitting through them all. But if a person is able and willing to pay the monthly price for YT Premium, then they don't have to sit through a single ad/commercial (as far as my experience has found). For me it feels well worth it. I forget whether I am still paying USD 13 per month or if they raised it a bit (mine is on autopay, so I don't recall), but an argument that I would make is that USD 13 per month is the cheapest school tuition that I could ever pay and yet it buys me more education than I even have time to use/consume. A pretty great deal really, if one uses it for continuing education or training (adult education, as the educators call it). All sorts of info about the trades, plus math, science, languages, cooking, hobbies. Pretty cool.
Adblocker, YT Vanced. Why pay something that's free
I have seen other laser videos in the past (obviously not in the future, lol) and they have been pretty superficial. THANK YOU for the detailed explanations, even about the various settings of the machine.
Funi
WOW what a cool piece of kit having spent 20 + years in the motor trade the usage is endless. 😄😀
I work in Photonics, anyone considering using one of these must wear Laser Safety Goggles specific to the wavelength-frequency of light you are working with. I can't tell what type of goggles that are used in this video but the safety goggles for vary for the type of laser, wattage and color. If you dont use the right kind you will develop cataracts.
Thank you for the heads up.
My Chinese neighbor has a 2020 Cataract Escarade
Agreed, absolutely never forget your LEP (Laser Eye Protection)! The machine should have warning labels that detail the laser frequency and Occular Density (OD) required for your LEP. Sunglasses and welding masks are not enough. Also be mindful of reflections affecting nearby equipment, skin, others. Highly recommend checking out MIL-HDBK-828B for anyone who wants more background on laser safety practices.
@@Christoph-sd3zi 🤣🤣
Cataracts is not the problem. You go BLIND permanently from lasers.....
This is amazing, and the tech can only get smaller/cheaper and help make restorations for the weekend mechanic so much easier
I said this in 2017 but the machines are still like $200k
@@Weaver_Games Because not enough of them are produced. Production needs to be scaled up on a industrial scale for the price to go down. Otherwise they will remain this expensive forever.
@@Drakey_Fenixthat’s not the issue. Google what goes into high powered lasers. At best IT’s performance or size will improve, not the price. The lenses alone are over 30k
@@bhavjotkang8004 Everything can be scaled up to reduce cost. Even those lenses. It doesn't help either that some manufacturers keep production low artificially, to make sure that prices stay high. This is a very common tactic used by businesses that sell high end products.
Now that's what I call remastering the tires! And it looks accurate!
Cant wait for 10 years from now when this is actually affordable for the average joe lol
Yeah in ten years they'll be selling these at home depot for $200 bucks.
I wish, It took 40 years for tig welders to become "affordable" and the cheapest useable ones are $600+
@@Hammerjockeyrepair I'd drop $600+ on that laser in heartbeat!!!
lets all go out a waste 10000 dollars on crap no one needs lets use are daddies money because we are loser yuppies
First and foremost, thank you for sharing! Second, as a former LeCar Owner (81 pop roof), this has brought back a TON of memories. As far as is this worth rebuilding, well, the answer is no. The LeCar was not safe the day it was made. With the rust damage and removal, yikes! It's a good thing you were able to restore those wheels, as they are going to be darn difficult to replace in that size. The tires? I don't know. As far as parts sourcing, in North America, there was a Renault boneyard down in Georgia, but, that was 35 years back. I can tell you, the master cylinder, while tiny as a bottle of bug juice, costed a FORTUNE. All of you HATERS, I know, I know, I have heard it ALL. I will say this- you find me a car TODAY that can go from NYC to CLE on a tank of gas! I'll wait here with my baguette and beret......
Maybe a hybrid? A Prius perhaps?
Thank you for sharing your story! This car will be made road-worthy and the rust on the quarter panel will be addressed. Tires are not as hard to find as the rims, but I'm lucky enough to have a lot of parts out back for this car. Parts are getting harder to find by the day, especially in NA! Once this car is dialed in properly it will just keep on going with that neat little 1.3L engine. Thanks for tuning in and I'm glad you shared this information! Cheers
Haters got to hate. On every subject. Unfortunately, the French manufacturers have more haters than any other type of vehicles the world over. Only a few like or understand the appeal of these vehicles. I myself hate all Volkswagens and Toyotas. I just find them to be boring as compared to the quirky French cars over the years that did have good virtues including reliability that some haters can't fathom and styling that was unmatched by what the other countries were producing depending on the period. Also, some people on the internet are actually kids just hating on French cars for the sake of it without even actually owning one and just troll because they heard French cars are bad from the internet and Top Gear or some other idiot French car hater 😒
they are getting tought for parts even in europe
That looks like it would be fun to use. Instant results are nice to see.
Amazing what technology is coming out with these days! One thing you didn't mention was the make of your machine and how much it costs. Really good information!
Low end machines cost $80-100k and high quality machines are north of $200k. Most early models were manufactured in Eastern Europe and you might be able to get a gently used machine for $40-50k.
@@enochthetrucker514 for real 😳
@@enochthetrucker514 it will become cheaper in 15-20 years give or take
@@enochthetrucker514 This is why I have problems with all of these kinds of videos. They make it sound user friendly as if its not a straight up unobtanium industrial process. Dry ice was like that for a long time but have come down significantly. Hopefully we see the same with this process. But given the components needed VS the dry ice I doubt it will be consumer grade in my lifetime.
@@117johnpar Power consumption at 15 cents per kW/hr is 0.30/hr. Man I wish I knew where my head was when I did that math;-/. It's only 30¢ per hour.
I need one of those laser cleaners for my entire life.
Can it also clean mistakes from the past? 🤔
to clean your teeth??? 😁😁
Cleanse my soul ?
that clip where the laser was used on the fenders was the only time ive seen one of these laser cleaners wok against the thicker flaky rust. most everything else out there is surface rust
That car was the first car I owned -- bought it from a friend. Wow, almost forgot all about it.
That's so cool!
One question after this amazing demo on this fantastic car (yeah, I'm a big Renault fan. I own a Renault 5 Alpine Turbo with the same colour, most likely a 705 red) is what's the cost of the technology? Because I would say that with an affordable laser, it's the end of media blasting.
I learned about this tech about two or three years ago. I was, and still am, amazed that light, and light alone, is able to do this kind of thing. I WISH I had one when I was doing rust fixing on my Impala, but for a one-off job, unsure the bank account would be happy, and probably would want to divorce me....
Que ferramenta sensacional ! Essa é do futuro !
Wow! That's like extreme pressure washing, with a beam of light!! I guess you don't make a wet mess with one of those. The next nearest thing I could think of would be literally an extremely high pressure water jet with with pulverised garnet. Not exactly a home DIY bit of kit. That thing must save hours of tedious and laborious work.
This is the most awesome machine for cars since dry ice machine
What would be the best between these two technologies for automotive repairs ?
@@nikko1984 both have different uses. Dry ice is used to clean metals off of dust, oil etc. this one is to remove metal rust.
Looks like with the laser it removes paint, at least on this video as for dry ice I’m sure they aren’t abrasive, so it will only removes dirts.
@@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy cleaning metals off of dust, oil? Shouldn't it be the other way?
@@troll2637 ah shit. Got me there. Gonna leave it unedited 🤣
I am curious about how many amps it draws. It has to be power-hungry.
my first question aswell! :D as an electrician nerd.
found one machine online that works 1000W/1500W/2000W. 220v
@@mrkhainuui That's less than I expected. A Hairdryer uses 2000 Watts.
They say it's the 'amperage' that kills you though, not the voltage. -with regard to accidental electrocution. -relevance being: I'm curious as to the other half of the power consumption puzzle .. Volts/Amps .. (I'm a superlative, no- school, electrically inclined, amateur enthusiast)
@@SmokeRingZ “Amps is what kills you” is just half truth. In reality voltage is the penetrating power in the equation. When you crank over your car, the starter motor is probably drawing 100 amps at 12 volts, I can break the circuit and hold on to one end of the starter cable and the battery positive and nothing will happen to me, your car also wont crank (because the current cannot flow through my skin). Once you go above 60 volts, you have to really take precautions because the voltage level is sufficient to have a good chance of penetrating the skin. Without sufficient voltage, high amperage should not harm you.
That is so cool. In comparison, it makes media blasting look like the equivalent of the Wright Brothers first airplane!
It's hard to impress me. Your machine just did. Thank you for the video
A link to the laser would be nice.
Hands up anybody that wants one for Xmas , a real must for all repair people , Rust your demise is now .
I can’t wait until this becomes more affordable.
Not at harbor freight yet ...lol
Это доступно. Цена такого чуда колеблется в пределах от 1000 000₽.
I think it might be already quite affordable if you go to a shop. Like with sandblasting
@@ribak6231 you Russians/ Ukrainians need to learn English..lol
@@emmaa427 shut-up ......
"Le Car". What a cool basic, but funny name for a basic, yet very funny car you just gotta love
What is the equipment model used in this video?
👍👌👏 Oh WOW, simply fantastic! Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health.
Definitely useful for a load of stuff but some of the demonstrations I can imagine other tools being more effective. If you can’t remove an item or it’s too large then I can imagine the laser cleaner being great.
Or very intricate, such as screw threads - but yeah, the good old wire wheel still has a place imo
👍@@robbiejames1540
What particular laser gun were you using on this project? Is it affordable?
Congratulations from France on that great choice of car, you make us all proud restoring an old R5. The american version "Le Car" has some different finish from the ones we had in France. Had one of the next generation when I was a student, really liked it. The paint went from red to pink... What I am most surprised is the wheels still being air tight with the rust, many wheels ended loosing air when rusted. I guess it wasn't stored outside for all its life.
I love that machine, I definitely want one in my shop. Could I have the brand of the one that you are using ? Thanks mate
Niesamowite urządzenie, niesamowite możliwości. Dziękuję że mogłem zobaczyć to w akcji. Pozdrawiam
Ja den er virkelig god fremtiden er på vej
It's like being Obi One Kenobi of automotive repair world. Or Ghost Busters with their guns ;) Interesting possibilities
Interesting video Thanks for putting that together. Looks like most of your comments coming in Don't really talk about the technical features of what you're doing. So with this process my biggest concern would be as you're using the laser most of the parts you're working on have rubber of some sort right next to them or incorporated in them. My guess is if the laser hits any of the plastic or rubber parts they will simply melt. So isn't there a risk in using this process and not damaging other parts? Thanks
I think it could dammage the non metal parts because it could remove the rusty metal off the part surface it can easily dammage the rubber.
No it will not. Same with your hands. The device has mode selections
There is. It generates immense heat. But it is also highly precise compared to sandblasting and even your wire wheel will be needed to be handled with care around hoses and paint and rubber gaskets etc. Often it is used in metal only cleaning. Like the auto body after removing everything. Very fast and robots can do it fast and precise. I would think using it on an old assembled car like this is unwise. But as you also see in the video, hardly any hoses, cables etc are left in the car. And the tires are old and worthless and just there to show the precision.
What is amazing to watch is the technology applied. Up the frequency a bit and we can certainly revive all of Star Wars. It is an achievement and the first step of something else. Now not only the cost of the machine, I'd like to see the electrical bill please. That's gonna be mesmerizing as well.
When Harbour Freight has them on sale for $199, I will think about getting one !!
This technology will first become in mass use by the military before it becomes common for civilians to have tools that use it. It’s impressive seeing it be used for this work but also scary because this technology is being weaponized right now. This type of weapon will split a tank or destroyer ship in half.
Very useful tool 🔧 👍 👌
Using a $15,000 LASER on a $15 car.
Seems well worth the investment in the equipment -- replaces most (if not all) grinding, chemical treatment, and elbow grease. I can see adding a vacuum nozzle to clear the dust and gas from the target.
Absolutely amazing and totally engrossing!!👍
What a great tool you can restore everything!
@@norwichscott i didn't see rust holes besides those rear wheel arches, and believe it or not, old 70's and 80's cars wanted these days.
It does not remove pitted rust.
Notice that his hands and arms are covered as well as wearing eye protection designed to attenuate that specific laser wavelength (1 micron). Be wary of stray reflections from smooth surfaces and absolutely do not breathe the smoke, because that's where all the junk that comes off goes. The process works by dumping heat into the surface, so moving slowly over thin metal might cause it to warp or even melt. Play with the parameters and see what works best. But do not forget that a laser in that power class (4) can burn skin or blind you faster than you can react, so treat it with respect.
The frequency of light these emit are usually in a band that's not absorbed by human flesh. The PPE is probably just precautionary. I've seen these pointed at demonstrators hands with no I'll effect beyond removing hair. Now eyes are a different story and I would definitely wear proper laser protection glasses.
@@jonmcentire * ill
Humm, this is the first time I saw this. Very nice. It should become more popular.
Looks really nice 👌 & it feels really good to use a layer machine by cleaning up the car.
Laser
Very cool. I have never heard of this before. The smoke would concern me though. It may get poisonous depending on the part cleaned, no?
You do have to be careful with the material ablated off the surface. Organics are worse than metals and oxides. I'd want really good fume extraction if I was doing this all day.
The 'going blind bit' would concern me. Just one little mistake and ..
You guys did notice the PPE didn't you?
@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore PPE is swell but is subject to mishaps. You can flip your goggles up and then fire the laser; very bad. I've never been a fan of handheld high-power lasers. They're a lot like machine guns.
@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore That is only to capture particles from the air. It would not protect from poisonous gasses that may be released in the process.
Yeah. I'll definitely order a service in a garage, where they clean rust from wheels with tyres on it... :)
Hi I have a question. How easy is it for these machines to creat fires?
Great! introduction to a technology in rust removal I never knew existed. The machine is a bit expensive but it takes out a lot mess that is made using other means, thanks .
It is not a rust remover. It removes pait and the top layer of rust. To remove rust acid dip.
How much is it for the size your using?
Does harbor freight have this yet?
What a beautiful tool !! 👍🏼👏👏👏👏
...You had me at "laser guns," hahaha. Where can I shoot one?
What happens if you aim it at the tyre ? or glass ?
I was thinking the same thing. I'd want to take the tire off before I accidentally zapped a hole through it. Same with the windows.
After the cleaning, it’s bare metal, so you should put a protective coating on it or it’s just going to get rusty again
@@sonacphotos it’s obvious to you and me, but I can guarantee that there are a lot of people who don’t understand why some metal things get rusty and other metal things don’t get rusty
Super cool technology 👍🏻 without harsh toxic ☣ chemicals 🧪! It’s definitely going to take some practice and a steady hand with all the different types of metals and surfaces.
I would use extreme caution with old painted surfaces, many paints (at least in the USA) contain lead.
You're basically vaporizing whatever it is you decide to remove. You should absolutely be using a filtered mask and proper ventilation.
I would be a little worried about fuel and brake lines. Whoosh!
@@maxwellcrazycat9204 *FOOMP*
@@maxwellcrazycat9204 Brake fluid isn't supposed to burn but I'm sure it makes toxic fumes when it vaporizes.
Dude that is the most awesome thing I have seen. Who would have thought?
Excellent video, well narrated, and bloody interesting, Cheers
I will get one to clean my mother-in-law's dentures. Maximum Wattage!
Been a mechanic " when vehicles were mechanical" auto body since the late sixty's and this blows my mind.
Amazon sells a bidet that uses one of these instead of water.
Send me the link ASAP!
Haha.
Lol , no way , but if true that would be toasty, no way , lol 😅.
Why? But expensive! And I hear sanding damage the thin body pats I am confused may be lazer bend thin body parts too
It’ll de-hair and bleach your butthole all in one go! 😂
I’m looking to buy a laser cleaner for an industrial engine rebuilding shop that I work at and I’m not sure which one to buy. What make and model do you use?
Excellent demonstration and presentation!
Can someone please tell model, make and price of this machine?
They start at around $11,799.00 and go up to $17, 000.00 US dollars. They are listen on Amazon. "LYXC Handheld Laser Cleaning Machine MAX 1000W Laser Cleaner Machine"
Doesnt the laser affect the cylinderwalls at all?
If you held it still but don't forget the metal underneath is shiny so reflects like a poor mirror reducing energy transfer.
Hola Disculpa la molestia, que características técnicas tiene el equipo?
Super interesting video. looks like fun to use this tool
How many watts does that thing use??
Zanimljivo da i dame zanimaju za majstorske stvari. Ovo je prilično para...bar za nas sa Balkana.
Just a slow steady buzz of happiness watching this laser work
what laser cleaner machine are you useing?
Is there a place in the Spokane WA. And or Coeur D' Alene ID. Area? What are the costs for the tool or service?
Bravo trés bon travail 👍👍👍👍👍❤️
Basically pressure washing but with Lasers
Good video! Are you use Top-Hat pulse laser to clean the car in video?
That's the fastest sand blasting I have ever seen!!
What if you touch it to the tire?
It should smoke the tire real good.
We're close to light sabers
Could that be used on alloy chrome truck rims and bull bars?
Very, very excellent job!
It strips paint and light rust. It left the wheels still full of pitted rust that will come back after painting.
Why no just removing the tires from the wheels and THEN clean the wheels ? Why not juste replace them with non-rusted, non metal fatigued, new wheels ? Also, it won’t clean internal surfaces of pieces. And I’m not sure that use this for « cleaning » the engine block is the way to go. Very little tolerance, should be resurfaced directly. This seems only esthetic here.
Does it consume a lot of energy/electricity?
I used to love driving the Renault 4. It was a zippy, fun car. I later drove the 12, 18 and 21, but that 4...
congrats for the video! I would like to purchase one. which is the model you are using? which manufacturer? I live in Italy
How much this lazer?
£1
@@b-live2854 so disrespectful you are!
@@kawataufik5098 why that’s how much it is?
@@b-live2854 I am planing to buy and when you do not understand when someone ask how much what dose mean?
@@kawataufik5098 I’ve already told you it retails for £1!
It’s better to first dismantle all the parts of car then laser it.
I think lazer heat the metal especially on thin car body and confused witch striped machine economy and safe we have sand stripper and water and lazer witch now expensive ta
Hi Andreas, I randomly came over, unknowingly, from your BMW R series :D This laser device looks really interesting. Have you also tried dry ice cleaning? I am curious how they compare.
Can this cut hair on balls?
Такие лазеры делают и у нас😊
И чё по цене, дешевле буржуйских?
@@Alex-bx3ed у нас лучшие лазеры, долговечные и с большой гарантией, по чене не скажу, знаю бу стоит 2 млн
да протесты разгонять ими самое оно
@@HazardXXX реагирует только на металл
That's awesome ! 👍
Does it remove rust scale and heavy penetrated rust or just surface rust ?
Never seen a wheel held by 3 nuts from the factory.
They were surprisingly common for small European cars. For the average Euro car, the wheels are held by four bolts, and five bolts, while common in the US, were much harder to find. As cars got heavier, not even larger, I imagine three bolts wasn't enough so they moved up to four.
@@FinalLuigi Thanks.
third
Wow! This is awesome! How much does it cost to do this on a car?
Its nice but do you have a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range?
Stupid queatiin but what happens if you point it on your hand? Does it burn it? And i see you wear eye protection naturaly with lazer but if from metal surface it reflects does it instatnly blind you? If crome pieces have rust on them can you use this machine or even though eye protection its dangerous cause of reflection? And doea it remove grease and mud like contaminations too?