Why Pokémon Anime Fans HATE Netflix

2024 ж. 7 Қаң.
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Pokémon x Netflix LOOKS like a match made in heaven, but many Pokémon fans feel that it has ruined the Pokémon anime experience in Pokémon Journeys and that it will continue to do so in Pokémon Horizons. What do you think?
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  • Pokemon fans that watches weekly Pokemon Horizons from pirate sites are now wondering, if Dot will get Tinkatink in episode 39. While a normal Pokemon fans that watches only Netflix will probably have to wait until 2025 to see the same episode.

    @bacd-nn2lg@bacd-nn2lg4 ай бұрын
    • Normal?😂

      @kite60311@kite603114 ай бұрын
    • @@kite60311yeah the non weebs

      @CheshireVulpes@CheshireVulpes4 ай бұрын
    • I guess she will catch it

      @makinyoumad9498@makinyoumad94984 ай бұрын
    • Look I use Pirate sites , But I like japanese and eng sub , and netflix doesn’t got that and only eng dub , Also I watch them in batches so when 3 weeks pass i watch 3 episodes and that

      @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk4 ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@AhmedMohammed-pf3jkwhat’s a good pirate website to watch Pokemon?

      @MJ-kx5fo@MJ-kx5fo4 ай бұрын
  • Hard to love Netflix when they canceled sharing password among households. I have HBO, Paramount, Hulu, & Amazon, but no Netflix :/

    @ProfessorAlexSilver@ProfessorAlexSilver4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, that sucked for a lot of people. We have Netflix as a family now but I mostly use it to put on nature documentaries in the background lol

      @charusharu@charusharu4 ай бұрын
    • lol

      @Diana45251@Diana452513 ай бұрын
    • I got rid of Netflix back in 2021 when the majority of seasons of Power Rangers were removed from Netflix.

      @ryanscheffer2302@ryanscheffer23023 ай бұрын
    • Im sorry, wtf​@@ryanscheffer2302

      @JustinObi54@JustinObi543 ай бұрын
    • @@ryanscheffer2302I see

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • My biggest issue with the Pokémon anime is that distributors don’t treat it like an anime, rather as some kids show. Why is there no official English sub unlike every other anime? Plenty of adults would be thrilled.

    @beijingbikinikill8608@beijingbikinikill86084 ай бұрын
    • Actually, most kids' animes have a hard time getting released with English subs. Most likely companies don't believe they will sell well as adults won't buy them. This has been changing a company has been releasing anime with their original subs. Such as Digimon, and Medabots. Pokemon most likely just doesn't want to do that. Not sure why.

      @animedude8712@animedude87124 ай бұрын
    • @@animedude8712yeah weird because medabots and digimon anime now has the Japanese verisons

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
    • @@animedude8712 It seems like it would be so easy to make a sub version, especially when they've already released a dub version in the case of Pokemon. The English translation is already made! Someone just needs to paste it in.

      @beijingbikinikill8608@beijingbikinikill86082 ай бұрын
    • Maybe it's because unlike most animes that's based on a manga or light novel series pokemon is based on a video game series I don't know if that's why it's treated so much different but I feel like that is why

      @Rnerdy197@Rnerdy1972 ай бұрын
    • @@Rnerdy197 yeah fair enough

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • I think they need to catch up and release two episodes a week up until 2 episodes away from the Japanese one. Then it can switch to 1 episode per week.

    @Angelite1209@Angelite12094 ай бұрын
    • They probaly wouldnt do it and have the entire season to bingde

      @Gorgosauruslibra@Gorgosauruslibra4 ай бұрын
    • @@Gorgosauruslibra I'm just wonder how One Piece Egghead arc would work for premiering on Netflix and how will that strategy to work🤔🤔

      @ssectorlap@ssectorlap4 ай бұрын
    • @@ssectorlap yeah it most likley wouldn't but they used to do it but only for a bit before the company changed

      @Gorgosauruslibra@Gorgosauruslibra3 ай бұрын
    • @@Gorgosauruslibra I just looked at One Piece anime on Netflix and it looks like they’re doing weekly new episodes and it’s just the sub version

      @ssectorlap@ssectorlap3 ай бұрын
    • @@ssectorlapfunny enough 8 days apparently one piece egghead is gonna air weekly since last week

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • Ironic how they just announced Pokémon TV will be shut down in March. I'm assuming they have some Netflix or other big company deal.

    @PokedigiZ@PokedigiZ4 ай бұрын
    • Just saw this too… they better its so sad

      @brendanbullock7712@brendanbullock77124 ай бұрын
    • wait what? 😢

      @ohmaplaymaker@ohmaplaymaker4 ай бұрын
    • @brendanbullock7712 Hoping it'll get replaced. However, I'm more concerned about whether this is a hint that Ash will be permanently replaced or not. I was hoping they would have all of the episodes though. A part from well, banned episodes.

      @PokedigiZ@PokedigiZ4 ай бұрын
    • It’s unfortunate

      @madnessarcade7447@madnessarcade74474 ай бұрын
    • @@ohmaplaymaker Yeah...Serebii just posted about it on Twitter about 30 minutes ago now.

      @PokedigiZ@PokedigiZ4 ай бұрын
  • Ive noticed that for some shows, Netflix has released them on a weekly basis. For example "Great British Bake Off" had weekly releases and it wasn't bingeable. My guess for the delay is the recording sessions for the dub, their *shudder* music recordings and other licensing stuff between Netflix and Pokemon Company. The reason I started watching the Japanese Dubs of the show is because I can't stand how they butchered the sound track for the anime..The battle between Cynthia and Iris was so epic in the Japanese dub. When she summoned out her Garchomp the music was Boss battle levels of hype, The dub was terrible and it just deflated any hype for that fight. The theme songs arent as fun an energetic either. Also as much as I would love to watch it in English..some of their choices for redubbing the pokemon [heck even the voices of some characters] just doesn't fit well to me.

    @MizuHime07@MizuHime074 ай бұрын
    • The soundtrack differences are an excellent reason to watch the Japanese version, that's for sure.

      @charusharu@charusharu4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah they have the series I watched on Netflix that released weekly was my happy marriage. I don’t understand why they won’t do that for Pokémon that is the only issue people have with it releasing on Netflix.

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • But at least you can understand the dialogue. Also even if the songs arn’t energetic, there wholehearted.

      @talenstout8324@talenstout83244 ай бұрын
    • @@talenstout8324 when I watch the Japanese dub, its with subs so I can still understand whats being said, also im studying Japanese for fun so watching it Raw helps me learn too. Its great that you like the English dub, but its just not for me.

      @MizuHime07@MizuHime074 ай бұрын
    • @@talenstout8324 yeah I definitely prefer watching in eng dub but I watch the Japanese with subs because its just that good of a story, HZ is my favorite because they are finally unshackled from the games plot and ash era dumb rules and kiddish jokes/gags and romance that won’t go anywhere. I love how so many of the characters are connected to each other and we will most likely see all of liko family line for 5 generations probably the same with roy and amethio as well.

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
  • I hate how long we have to wait for Netflix. It reminds me of the early days when the first season first aired on local stations and already had two movies out before we got the first film. I hate the gap. As much as Disney has fallen from grace in recent years at least with Disney XD there was only a couple of months delay in episodes and the movies were released just a few months after Japanese cinema’s. Also during the Cartoon Network days the Genesect movie was only two months after Japanese theaters and got a DVD release BEFORE Japan. I miss those days and it really does hurt to the point where I have been watching fan subs and winging it with the Japanese episodes.

    @princesspikachu3915@princesspikachu39154 ай бұрын
    • Yeah

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17244 ай бұрын
    • Yea I've been surviving of fan subs till I found out Horizons is on IPlayer

      @Amemji@Amemji3 ай бұрын
    • Cartoon Network was the best

      @goudendynamiethd2117@goudendynamiethd2117Ай бұрын
    • @@goudendynamiethd2117 that was back then

      @watchforever1724@watchforever1724Ай бұрын
  • I think your assessment and criticisms of netflix, was great and well put together. I hope someone from their company sees this and manages to pull the proper strings for change.💯

    @aquario6944@aquario69444 ай бұрын
  • Omg, I remember watching your channel around 5 years ago and I clearly remember your distinct voice back then, but it's changed so much since then! Still such a nice and chill channel to vibe to.

    @DemanaJaire@DemanaJaire4 ай бұрын
  • I remember rewatching a Pokemon episode in the Eng Dub (localized) and was rather disappointed with the OST change... I understand why it had to be done, but nearly all the cool BGMs that were present in the original were just gone and there was no impactful replacement.

    @LtDarkWing@LtDarkWing4 ай бұрын
  • Due to Netflix doing this, I feel many fans have sought out the Japanese version to stay with the show. So, unfortunately, I feel the English Dub may fail in some aspects due to this, as many fans have already watched the episodes and won't feel the need to revisit them. I certainly hope Netflix's decision to do this, doesn't cause Pokemon, (at least the anime), to start failing. While I'm certain the games will always be released, I could see them not wanting to spend funds on releasing the anime in English or any other language, if the demand isn't there.

    @alolaamii@alolaamii4 ай бұрын
    • Netflix has made the anime more popular than ever its exposed to a wider audience the show always charts in the top ten so I don’t think it will

      @madnessarcade7447@madnessarcade74474 ай бұрын
    • I don’t sure there have been some sacrifices but in return it’s made the anime more popular than it’s ever been in years every new season always charts in the top ten immediately Barely anyone used to talk about the anime/dub and now people talk about it everywhere So it’s a give and take Life is about balance after all

      @madnessarcade7447@madnessarcade74474 ай бұрын
    • I demand is always there, 1 demand for every English speaking fan.

      @talenstout8324@talenstout83244 ай бұрын
    • Pretty much me for Pokémon

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17244 ай бұрын
    • @@talenstout8324”every” *English speaking* fan? Definitely not

      @V.U.4six@V.U.4six4 ай бұрын
  • I find it ironic that the US side knows that people are watching it in Japanese first, yet still change the soundtrack in the dub for no reason.

    @arrogantgodjealous@arrogantgodjealous4 ай бұрын
    • He said why they change the music in the video it’s so they don’t have to pay royalties to Japan to use their music.

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • @@shadowwizard2383 I know why they do it, doesn't make it a good idea.

      @arrogantgodjealous@arrogantgodjealous4 ай бұрын
    • @@arrogantgodjealous Doesn’t matter what fans think just like so many fans where very disappointed with ash ending it is what it is

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • it's better anyways

      @natalimoina@natalimoina4 ай бұрын
    • @@shadowwizard2383 Well either way they should stop, replacement scores in anime have been frowned upon for over 2 decades now. It's not like they can't afford the rights, they just don't care.

      @arrogantgodjealous@arrogantgodjealous4 ай бұрын
  • I like the idea of having multiple episodes to watch at once, but I honestly feel Pokemon, the anime, is best consumed weekly. And like you said, it makes for better discussion and appreciation of each episode. Great video!

    @gioshideout@gioshideout4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, it was annoying that the official twitter channel and from that Google posted about Ash becoming Monarch as well as winning the Alola Leauge the day it happened. Granted, I had already seen it on Serebii, but I had gone looking on Sereibii. The others it just came up as a trending story.

      @bowtiesrcool86@bowtiesrcool863 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • In all fairness, here in Australia we didn’t get Pokémon ultimate journeys (season 25) and aim to be a Pokémon master didn’t come to Netflix until October or November roughly. That wait was painful.

    @spontaneouswizard358@spontaneouswizard3584 ай бұрын
    • In Australia it’s on 9go first

      @thegoldenfistthree326@thegoldenfistthree3264 ай бұрын
    • @@thegoldenfistthree326 makes sense.

      @spontaneouswizard358@spontaneouswizard3584 ай бұрын
  • I wanted to say that you make a really good point in your video. It's crazy to think that the gap between the Japanese release and the US one has grown bigger instead of becoming slightly shorter than in the XY days. I share the opinion that having such a gap takes away the hype off some big events, as I've seen it first hand when Ash become world champion, having my cousin who watches the show in the European Spanish dub as they release on TV and myself who watched it when it was broadcasted in Japan (a gap which is even bigger, as we depend on the English dub first). Something should be done to shorten the time gap, but it's a complicated issue, I guess. I must say, though, that as someone who has studied how the dub process can be (in the eyes of a translator), I wouldn't really recommend a straight-up simuldub. As you mention, the whole situation to bring a product localized takes time, if you take that away, the quality drops considerably, so the product becomes harder to enjoy. Here in Spain, a few years before the streaming platforms' boom, they used to do simuldubs to shows such as The Walking Dead or Arrow in order to follow the trend, but you could easily find some issues in the released products. And even then, the dub episodes never aired at the same time as the original (around 20 hours later, the earliest, or a week or two later, the latest). All of that was regarding English to Spanish dub localizations, which are way more common here, so the workload in a Japanese to English dub (or to any language for that matter) is expected to be bigger, as the language combination is harder. In a product that needs a heavier localization like the Pokémon anime, due to its music changes, the name changes, the voice acting and even some light editing, the simuldub would be a bad option. Or at least it would be if it was done in a short period of time. With all of these, am I saying the the Netflix formula is good? Nope, absolutely not. Like you mentioned, having a bunch of episodes all at once and a big break takes away the hype quite quickly. It can work to some shows, but not to all of them. I do believe that every platform should study their products a bit more in order to know what works better in each case, instead of having the bunch of episodes as their default plan.

    @dontblink3597@dontblink35974 ай бұрын
  • I literally just watch every episode on Facebook watch in English subs at the same time as it airs in Japan, I don’t need to wait longer than that. I got episode 34 on Christmas but I’m still waiting on episode 35, they posted episode 5 in English dub instead

    @andrewdivino08@andrewdivino084 ай бұрын
  • I see & acknowledge the Japanese to English process to release as an ongoing problem that has been happening for years. Also, t.v. is not what it was in past years compared to t.v. currently. Lastly, I am caught up on Pokémon Horizons anime after watching the English subbed version online & I am not effected by the problem since I watch less t.v. than I did when I was younger.

    @jodamora7338@jodamora73384 ай бұрын
  • The fact this dude can make a video about Netflix’s decline of the anime’s localization entertaining and humorous is a testament to his script writing like damn dude you’re killing it

    @cardinal8848@cardinal88484 ай бұрын
  • Is sad that PokemonTV is shutting down

    @cloverfinderboygamer3573@cloverfinderboygamer35734 ай бұрын
  • 1/12/2024 UPDATE: Pokémon Horizons Netflix (USA) debut has been delayed from February 23, 2024 to March 7, 2024. 🔥But you can see the 10 WORST Pokémon Controversies right now: kzhead.info/sun/hrl_hZeCoIKYn4k/bejne.html

    @charusharu@charusharu4 ай бұрын
    • Bad

      @da2317@da23174 ай бұрын
    • Yeah that sucks

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
    • A month later it’s not coming in February 23,2024 but coming into March

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for making this video because I still hate the fact that the official pokemon twitter account ruined the Ash v/s Leon finale even before the Masters 8 tournament started. There was no more suspense when Cindarace cornered Ash in the finals or when Cynthia went for Dynamax togekiss over mega garchomp. Like seriously, that one tweet ruined the whole experience and not to mention @Pokemon tweeting the same thing again when the English dub was released thus rubbing the salt on the wound. And for what? For following the anime since day 1 before I even started school?

    @parth17bhatia@parth17bhatia4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I saw it too, can’t say of what Netflix is doing “ruins” the Pokemon anime because I still enjoy it to this day and I don’t mind Netflix personally but it really sucks that the waiting gap between Japanese and English in terms of distributing takes whenever the Japanese dubbing is usually weeks or even months ahead, I personally don’t mind the English dubbing but my personal problem is the OST change like other people mentioned in the comments, I wouldn’t mind doing on a weekly basis or having the options to change languages regardless if its streaming or DVDs overall. I don’t hate Netflix but I do question their business decisions at times if that makes sense. 🥲 #pokemon

      @ashelygordon669@ashelygordon6694 ай бұрын
  • Not gonna lie, I wish that Netflix added Japanese dub for the anime. Then they could just add subtitles to it, not having to wait for the English Dub, and imo Japanese sounds way better in Pokemon.

    @mandyplays219@mandyplays2193 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • That might be the reason why i prefer to watch the Japanese dub because they put some great music in the series like Garchomp vs Mega Lucario it really give me a boss fight vibes. Also for the intro, when they made an OP for Pokemon series, they just reduced by 30 seconds for English with the worst choice of music except the first season of Pokemon was actually pretty good with 1 minute intro. Like why would they've done this?

    @dragonphoenix790@dragonphoenix7904 ай бұрын
    • 30 seconds is for more commercials.

      @RetroNerdyGamer@RetroNerdyGamer3 ай бұрын
  • Nice video, can you please talk about Aureliashipping

    @jonkutchenriter@jonkutchenriter4 ай бұрын
  • While I am all for simul-release, even a soft simul-release would be fine with it coming out a week after the Japanese one. Gives them a week to dub it and shoot it out (of course they'd have to drop the making of new music...which would be preferred)

    @TheObsessiveGamer@TheObsessiveGamer3 ай бұрын
  • What if I told you Pokémon is also sunsetting their international Pokémon TV app (no seriously this is true). Netflix isn’t the only culprit anymore to “ruining” the Pokémon anime.

    @CinderLitten@CinderLitten4 ай бұрын
    • I WAS SO MAD THAT I MADE A VIDEO ABOUT IT AND I BEEN USING IT FOR 3 YEARS

      @cloverfinderboygamer3573@cloverfinderboygamer35734 ай бұрын
    • Wdym? I barely touched that, I prefer the original language anyway after all and it’s never an official option for the main series

      @V.U.4six@V.U.4six4 ай бұрын
  • Yes the binge watching method is very annoying. Especially when I’ve been watching weekly back in the day on Cartoon Network , kidswb, and later Disney XD channel for sun and moon series , a movie rerun and the list goes on. Binge watching I is usually just forget about the series on Netflix after 3 or 4 episodes cuz I have other shows weekly to watch throughout the week

    @gundambassexe31@gundambassexe313 ай бұрын
  • I hope this video helps to make more Pokemon fans aware of this issue.

    @clauliz5502@clauliz55024 ай бұрын
  • 1:53 Probably the worst move they ever did

    @ohmaplaymaker@ohmaplaymaker4 ай бұрын
    • Wasn't very effective, huh?

      @DarkSackOfficial@DarkSackOfficial4 ай бұрын
    • @@DarkSackOfficial Luckily I watche the finale in sub before I got spoiled

      @ohmaplaymaker@ohmaplaymaker4 ай бұрын
    • @@ohmaplaymaker Uhhh, since Pokemon TV is gonna be taken down, where can I watch all seasons of the Pokemon anime?

      @DarkSackOfficial@DarkSackOfficial4 ай бұрын
    • @@DarkSackOfficial Idk!!

      @ohmaplaymaker@ohmaplaymaker4 ай бұрын
  • In Australia we get a whole season of Pokemon on Netflix at the end of each year. We just got the final season with Ash in December so we won't see Horizons most likely until Christmas.

    @Walshy8113@Walshy81133 ай бұрын
  • its the classic tale the best way to fight Piracy, is by making things easy to access the fact the Gen 9 anime in America doesn't even officially come out until AFTER all the DLC for ScVi is insane, with Pokemon day before the release on March 7th, its v likely an entirely different games hype cycle will overshadow the BEGINING of a pokemon generation that's already almost finished

    @KryZenGraphics@KryZenGraphics3 ай бұрын
    • That’s how I watched most of the anime I watched on sites and Pokémon I can see it on fansub

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • Completely unrelated but where did you get those cute little pixel art sprites? Did you make them? I kind of need them in my life

    @katecoker9104@katecoker91043 ай бұрын
    • I make the pixel art! And my artist does the anime / "chibi" style drawings.

      @charusharu@charusharu3 ай бұрын
  • But Netflix is the fastest way to get Pokémon content, POKEMON tv is to far be behind. Dubs are underrated, they allow you to understand what the characters are saying.

    @talenstout8324@talenstout83244 ай бұрын
  • I was able to keep up with journeys because I found subbed episodes on KZhead the day after they came out and could watch them before they got taken down. I wasn’t able to get to Horizons in time to do this and now I have to wait to watch it

    @espurrito4319@espurrito43193 ай бұрын
    • You can check out horizons online I took 4 months to take a break til we get to 25 episodes in I stopped after episode 25

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • Here in Australia, we literally never got the final season of journeys. No getting to see ash’s battle with Leon.

    @AerWhoSometimesUploads@AerWhoSometimesUploads4 ай бұрын
  • It’s interesting that the Japanese verison is different than the American verison and I was like surprised thanks to those fansubs hell we’re surprised hearing satoshi than ash

    @watchforever1724@watchforever17244 ай бұрын
  • Power rangers fans hate Netflix too! Why? Netflix used to have EVERY SINGLE season (every series, don’t ask), now they basically just have the newest, Mighty Morphin’, and the Netflix Original anniversary one. Although this at least applies to fans in the UK, no idea with other places

    @Ghostmnm@Ghostmnm3 ай бұрын
  • I don't understand sometimes why Pokemon episodes aren't just uploaded to Crunchyroll like other anime. I don't know how Pokemon and streaming distributions work with the Japanese version. But it never sat well with me the concept of Pokemon being an anime that's basically drip fed in small chunks for the American version these days. Kind of destroys momentum in my opinion. You get to a part that's all hype and then nothing for almost 5 or 6 months.

    @TheFlamesofRuin@TheFlamesofRuin3 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • I was so excited when anime became more popular on Netflix, especially because I haven't had any cable package in almost 15 years so I thought it would be easier for me to see some of these shows.. I actually thought it was going to help...and well this video explains exactly why I hate it. Plus, we don't know how long the exclusivity is going to be. Multiple Pokémon seasons and movies that were released on Netflix first are now available on physical media. Meanwhile there's been 0 news on Sailor Moon Eternal getting a physical release and it's been a year and a half now and Cosmos is likely to go through the same crap. I prefer to watch in English because sometimes my attention level makes it hard to watch subs, but I'm about to say f*** it and watch Japanese Horizons. Another thing that annoys me is that we know TCPI dubs these fast. They have aired "previews" as soon as two days after the Japanese airing. There is no reason we can't get back to 2-3 month period.

    @HoennMaster@HoennMaster4 ай бұрын
  • I honestly don't mind waiting cause I've been out of the loop with pokemon for years didn't know what was going on with it until it blew up on social media that ash became a champion since then I've been more in the loop

    @Rnerdy197@Rnerdy1972 ай бұрын
    • How do you feel 12 days later considering the English dub is coming out this week

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • The annoying thing with Netflix is that it DOES release some anime weekly as they air in Japan. They’re just really inconsistent with it and it’s always a flip of the coin it it will be batch release or weekly . This is worse when they have exclusive rights to a anime like jojo cause even japan had to wait for the batches to be on Netflix for it to release on tv there. There was no illegal alternative cause they withheld it from releasing weekly in Japan.

    @Timotarius_@Timotarius_3 ай бұрын
  • Netflix should have all of the Pokemon Seasons so when the New Season is getting worked on people can just watch the old seasons that came out before and also this would mean that people could still watch the full 25 seasons with Ash in it. So this would be a win win with the older people and the people that has just gotten into Pokemon anime. I mean this would just be so good because I love the pokemon X&Y anime then when it got removed from Netflix I could not watch it until it was on pokemon tv and that is not on anymore because of the Pokemon Co.

    @ShawnJbarr1988YT@ShawnJbarr1988YT3 ай бұрын
    • Actually I managed to watch it on home video

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • The way that the dub has been handled is absolutely atrocious. I wouldn’t mind watching a subtitled version of the Pokémon anime if they use the localized names of the Pokémon creatures. But I don’t want to watch the show and take a good five seconds try to remember what the hell a Fushigidane and Iwanko is. To compare, Digimon has just as bad of a dub experience, but the localization name issue is virtually non-existent. Most Digimon names are the same in ENG as they are in JP with some notable exceptions like Tailmon/Gatomon and Omegamon\Omnimon. I generally just watched the subtitled versions of Digimon nowadays because I know that I will have to wait in eternity for the English dub. And I don’t mind that. While dub is my preferred anime watching style, I am quite ok with watching subtitled anime if the dub is not available for whatever reason. But Pokémon is different. What Pokémon needs to start doing is releasing official subtitles on Crunchyroll hours after the Japanese airing. And with the dub, there is no reason why it shouldn’t be but a few months behind. In this day and age, we have the English dub of shows like Attack on Titan, My Hero Academia, and Spy X Family being mere weeks after their Japanese release. Not only that, but Pokémon is one of the most successful franchises in the world. It’s not like they don’t have the means to get this done.

    @evanminton8315@evanminton83153 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • Crazy. The peak of my Pokémon anime experience was in X and Y- I never considered that I watched it because it was convenient. I remember the days where I had to go out of my way to search for Sun and moon, and just couldn’t take the wait time on the dub. Straight to sub. And with Journeys, I’m ngl, I watched the beginning all in dub- but I skipped maybe 2 seasons worth of episodes and just finished it off in entirely in sub. I was not gonna wait for the dub to drop months later once it was finally starting to turn up the pace. I’ll be honest. I’ve yet to watch horizons. I definitely will give it a shot, but Pokemon NEEDS to go back to the weekly schedule. At most the dub version should be a month after the Japanese- but that’s extremely wishful thinking from my end. They literally have a Pokémon TV app they don’t utilize enough in terms of the new content they drop.

    @Josh-md1bc@Josh-md1bc4 ай бұрын
    • They had a Pokémon tv app.

      @animedude8712@animedude87124 ай бұрын
    • @@animedude87129 years later it was announced to shut down

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • i had that problem about 2 years ago i got finally onto the jojo train and looked forward to the weekly discussions but then netflix happend so i woke up the next morning and saw episode 12 of stone ocean dropped and thought wtf how did i miss the other episodes

    @lucygirl1111@lucygirl11113 ай бұрын
  • Netflix is always a constant cash cow and then the massive army collection of the constant contract breakers, thus concluding: the massive butts of the jokes

    @michaeltran4275@michaeltran42754 ай бұрын
  • I never had cable, so I was really happy that Pokemon Journeys came onto Netflix so I didn’t have to find the episodes on sites anymore. I liked the fact that in the old days, episode gaps were 2 to 3 months and Disney XD aired a bunch of new episodes at once on certain days. Because of the internet, I get spoiled months before it comes onto Netflix. I can read subs, but I prefer the dubs because it’s easier for me. I don’t have to worry about reading. I can just enjoy it without the hassle. Netflix should have released them in July instead because we knew at least the first one was dubbed and probably more. It’s a shame that we had to wait 10 whole months after Japan, but I understand that dubbing takes time. But the English dub for the Pokemon Coco movie had a trailer almost a year before it got released onto Netflix.

    @Booila@Booila4 ай бұрын
  • Im basically only able to watch the anime on Netflix and because of Netflix's weird schedule I literally finished Journeys and the homage episodes jus after Christmas but thankfully I have a savour IPlayer. I'm gonna start watching Horizon on Wednesday and I'm so excited

    @Amemji@Amemji3 ай бұрын
  • My personal complaint with Pokémon and Netflix is that not all the Pokémon movies are there yet. I rely on Audio Description as a blind viewer and there aren't any audio described versions of the older movies like Destiny Deoxys. I want movies like Destiny Deoxys, The Rise of Darkrai and Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction to make it.

    @dorothycho2467@dorothycho24673 ай бұрын
  • Idk, Pokémon should be more specific and try to match the original version without altering much, just like the other Dubs. But they just have to localize Pokémon so hard that they don't even want the kids to know that Pokémon is a Japanese Anime, not an American Show.

    @desiweabu1614@desiweabu16144 ай бұрын
  • not only that but in canada whenever the date is announced it comes at least 2 months later

    @lumarc5513@lumarc55133 ай бұрын
    • Yeah

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • Tbh this how I found your channel, I wanted to keep up with pokemon journeys but the there was such a gap between the episodes for the Japanese airing I basically stopped watching. Then I saw you reviewing them on KZhead so thays how I just kept up with the series lol

    @MrFritofries@MrFritofries3 ай бұрын
  • Happy late new year my friend hope you and you're wife had a safe and happy one, yes they need to work better and spacing its annoying

    @dragonhunter285ify@dragonhunter285ify4 ай бұрын
  • Apparently yes, Way worse than what disney has did. Once I work for the pokemon company, I plan to give the Pokemon anime a proper english dub. However, I do have a few conditions, including a major return to TV, including Universal Kids, have the soundtrack stay true to the Japanese OST roots, along with better dubbing. Plus, no more bowdlerizing.

    @kingbladerZed@kingbladerZed3 ай бұрын
    • I would also consider doing somewhat of a simulcast too. Like what they did with one piece. Plus, it's high time for American dubbing studios to swallow their pride and realize that they need to cooperate with the anime's Japanese owners and make the anime more amazing than ever.

      @kingbladerZed@kingbladerZed3 ай бұрын
    • @@kingbladerZedkidna sad we have no similcast for pokemon

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
    • Double true, I would choose Crunchyroll to have the series in both Dub & Sub versions, proper subtitles, proper Japanese OST, profanity and zero bowdlerizing. Amen.

      @mic456789@mic4567892 ай бұрын
  • Thank goodness trainer Zac gives reviews of each episode

    @apoole54@apoole544 ай бұрын
  • Which is why I watch it online than streaming honestly surprised this show isn’t on crunchyroll

    @watchforever1724@watchforever17244 ай бұрын
    • I’m guessing that Crunchyroll doesn’t think pokemon as anime, Crunchyroll has adult anime. This is more of kid anime even though adults watch it.

      @perlagonzalez2734@perlagonzalez27344 ай бұрын
    • @@perlagonzalez2734 Actually, CR has tones of animes aimed at a young audience. Shows like Digimon, and Precure is on CR. Most likely they can't beat Netflix, or Pokemon has never offered it to them. Pokemon doesn't like showing the Japanese version in the west.

      @animedude8712@animedude87124 ай бұрын
    • @@perlagonzalez2734 That is totally wrong digimon and yugioh are on crunchyroll and other kid anime.

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • @@perlagonzalez2734 Dude, they have Astro boy

      @Aimi_Kaneko@Aimi_KanekoАй бұрын
  • I wonder if it's just a data thing since Pokemon Horizon is played on a weekly basis in the UK but I guess Pokemon data shows that no one likes that method anymore in the USA and just prefer their stuff on a streaming service like A Netflix.

    @Lucario1121@Lucario11213 ай бұрын
  • I hate Netflix because i live in Canada and Pokémon ultimate journeys came out a MONTH AGO ON NETFLIX so I’m gonna have to wait a long time before I can watch the new anime 😕

    @Dat_SheepMC@Dat_SheepMC3 ай бұрын
    • I did it

      @Atgold@Atgold3 ай бұрын
  • You seem to be on point there Charles. I doubt I'd binge watch all your videos if you released a whole lot in one go if they were 30 minutes long as it would become more of a chore than an enjoyment. Great video, great points.

    @darkscarflame4822@darkscarflame48224 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, that would certainly be overload haha. Everything in moderation!

      @charusharu@charusharu4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • We also don't like Netflix for their shady business practices, disrespect for viewers, constant scandals, high prices (back in my day Pokemon was free on local TV channels), international mistranslations and even character erasing.

    @ZebraLuv@ZebraLuv4 ай бұрын
  • It’s Netflix they did the same thing with other anime it’s like they have a personal vendetta against them

    @mcleod56ify@mcleod56ify3 ай бұрын
  • What about the dub eps that air weekly in some parts of the world

    @madnessarcade7447@madnessarcade74474 ай бұрын
    • What about them they are different companies if you want to watch the UK Pokémon HZ go ahead it’s up to ep 6 I think

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • @@shadowwizard2383my point was are they just as behind

      @madnessarcade7447@madnessarcade74474 ай бұрын
    • @@madnessarcade7447 UK has 6 or more ep of HZ in English dub which is normally reversed because normally the US is ahead in getting ep. So we will instantly catch up to them when we get all 15 ep that released at the same time only down sized is they will just keep getting a ep a week why we have to wait for a few months. Which is dumb because Netflix has series that releases ep once a week like my happy marriage.

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • @@madnessarcade7447 If your asking like how many ep the UK has its 6-10 I think and they are the furthest along outside of Japan where its on ep 35.

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • @@shadowwizard2383I was asking if it’s affected by the Netflix release model

      @madnessarcade7447@madnessarcade74473 ай бұрын
  • Fun fact the creator of of the jouto three legendaries beast create a manga called Pokemon golden boys

    @maryscudder3324@maryscudder33244 ай бұрын
  • I really do agree with this also Pokémon had an app called Pokémon TV where seasons 3-19 were rotated on a monthly basis until that generation’s season were on the app then it would restart the cycle and this means they could’ve released the episodes on this app instead of Netflix and that would be great because we wouldn’t have to wait for Netflix to release they in an unreliable way.

    @snookerdooker471@snookerdooker4714 ай бұрын
    • Also ironic how Pokemon TV on the Pokemon site got shut down same day as this video...

      @s1ko52@s1ko524 ай бұрын
    • That app is shutdown in a bit

      @shadowwizard2383@shadowwizard23834 ай бұрын
    • Well the app is shutting down

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • it wouldn't be too bad if the gaps between episodes airing in America weren't that far behind Japan, even the UK where I live is getting them much earlier

    @joecrammond6221@joecrammond62213 ай бұрын
  • Netflix's Binge Model is no fit for a anime that runs weekly like Pokemon.

    @mechajay3358@mechajay33583 ай бұрын
  • When i found out that netflix now had Pokemon i decided to just wait a year then pirate the whole series to watch in one go

    @Chaddy744@Chaddy7443 ай бұрын
  • Dude you gotta make a video about Pal World

    @loganfruchtman953@loganfruchtman9533 ай бұрын
  • Bro yall have this Series in Europe netflix lagges behind like crazy

    @ijhuzkij7254@ijhuzkij72543 ай бұрын
  • Changing music in the English dub to avoid paying music rights to Japaness Composers? Is that the reason why 4Kids changed music in some of their dubs like Sonic X and Kirby: Right back at ya?

    @tails230@tails2303 ай бұрын
  • They have a handful of dubs in other languages but they never have the original Japanese audio! Horizons would have been a great starting point after all these years to have official subs OTL Because it’s a fresh start without Ash and Co

    @V.U.4six@V.U.4six4 ай бұрын
  • 8:49 Meanwhile, a 10-year-old self, watching Yu-Gi-Oh! in full german, barely understanding anything from context, just because there were only 48 episodes available in polish.

    @Agreel@Agreel3 ай бұрын
  • Now it’s coming March 7th on Netflix!

    @bidoof_@bidoof_3 ай бұрын
  • I’m still surprised that by moving pokemon to Netflix, we american viewers still can’t get to watch the anime with Japanese audio, even though most anime on that platform has audio for all of their other anime but pokemon for some reason

    @felixthecat5333@felixthecat53334 ай бұрын
  • A lot of anime fans back in the 2000s and 2010s switched to watching the Japanese episodes in English subtitles because: 1. They couldn't wait 2. By the time the dub caught up, they were extremely disappointed because it was inferior to the original Japanese source material. Looks like history is repeating itself for the 2020s.

    @darkglass3011@darkglass30113 ай бұрын
    • Sometimes it’s an exception that the English dub is good

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • Keep it up on your work and this video and channel I love this video and channel Thanks you for your video and channel I love Pokemon All franchise

    @dychrisshandonsmith1242@dychrisshandonsmith12423 ай бұрын
  • Other anime have simuldubs. Pokémon is just stuck on the past. The whole thing with recording a different soundtrack is an archaic practice that pretty much no other show still does.

    @42Caio@42Caio4 ай бұрын
    • Not to mention THEY STILL don’t do the subbed version officially (for Main series) after all these years Anime is so much bigger and much more mainstream now-majority of platforms literally offer both options and here Pokémon is still refusing to give us official sub with original language New Horizons was a a great opportunity to start anew but they’re still pulling this BS-including stuff like simuldubs and etc like you said

      @V.U.4six@V.U.4six4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17244 ай бұрын
    • other anime aren't dubbed anywhere near as well

      @natalimoina@natalimoina4 ай бұрын
  • The flap jack lol

    @Catohat52@Catohat523 ай бұрын
  • And we're getting Pokemon Horizons over a month after we get the final content for Scarlet and Violet with a little over a year before we find out about Generation 10.

    @BryanRainey@BryanRainey4 ай бұрын
    • A month it’s finally out

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17242 ай бұрын
  • Keep that in mind I'm not huge fan of Pokemon anime aren't target audience At me But unfortunately I'm too old for lack Pokemon Games and such As Pokemon cards Are being boring LoL

    @k.ms.perkins8644@k.ms.perkins86444 ай бұрын
    • Why are you even here? Lol

      @V.U.4six@V.U.4six4 ай бұрын
    • Also what is that grammar 😅

      @V.U.4six@V.U.4six4 ай бұрын
    • Because it's still funny 😂

      @k.ms.perkins8644@k.ms.perkins86444 ай бұрын
    • Grammar LoL 😂 funniest moments lol

      @k.ms.perkins8644@k.ms.perkins86444 ай бұрын
  • I tend to watch new pokemon seasons once they come to dvd as I buy them as they come out I have not seen a new dubbed pokemon series when it initially came out since x,y,z as I got rid of cable after it ended and switched to streaming so I only saw sun and moon and and the first 2 seasons of journeys on dvd I am now waiting for the final season of journeys to come to dvd I hope aim to be a pokemon master will be part of that dvd season box set but if it is not I hope it is released on dvd the same day or within a week of it

    @Michellejosph@Michellejosph3 ай бұрын
  • It is weird that Concierge was at least simultaneous, but I think the unique medium and story type of that series would have survived a delay better to stand-out. However, it is good that is was simultaneous.

    @corrinflakes9659@corrinflakes96593 ай бұрын
  • BRO NETFLIX DIDN'T EVEN RELEASE IT YET IN CANADA OR UK I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WHY CAN THEY JUST PUT POKÉMON HORIZON

    @mystery_cape2539@mystery_cape2539Ай бұрын
  • Hi there, less than a week in the future. The Netflix dub premier got delayed to March 7th.... 😮‍💨

    @stevenpip7339@stevenpip73393 ай бұрын
  • As Pokémon fan, I don’t hate Netflix

    @HerrySis48@HerrySis483 ай бұрын
  • I already hated Netflix anyway.

    @minicle426@minicle4263 ай бұрын
  • Man the gap between Eng dub and sub of pokemon horizon will get larger than what One piece was with funimation dub 5 years ago

    @blackoutamvs6550@blackoutamvs65503 ай бұрын
  • Two companies bad at handling and listening to the consumers of this product are making pirate sites come back like crazy. And now we got palworld too.

    @fluffysharkdatazz9460@fluffysharkdatazz94603 ай бұрын
  • I wish that they would give us the series at a rate where we could keep up at the same pace as Japan

    @ericsanders9847@ericsanders98473 ай бұрын
  • The generation 11 anime will start airing by the time, horizons english dub ends

    @blackoutamvs6550@blackoutamvs65503 ай бұрын
  • I've just been watching Horizons on Facebook since it was released.

    @JulioLenin88@JulioLenin883 ай бұрын
  • Pokemon Concierge was a ton of fun~

    @Vincentvondoom@Vincentvondoom4 ай бұрын
  • i like your editing

    @chopper3875@chopper38753 ай бұрын
  • I got pissed during journeys when i found out that i couldnt watch Ash become the world champion, thankfully cartoon network came in clutch. Weekly series like pokemon shouldnt be released in batches as more likely than not the 13th episode will not resolve anything at all. They should release it weekly like they are doing with one piece egghead island arc

    @blackoutamvs6550@blackoutamvs65503 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I know

      @watchforever1724@watchforever17243 ай бұрын
  • UK broadcasts it already on BBC started in December so I've seen the first six episodes

    @bendardani1852@bendardani18524 ай бұрын
  • Wonder if it's even gonna come out I'm Europe

    @The_epic_commander@The_epic_commanderАй бұрын
  • Hungary: waits to the batches and adds 2 months for translation

    @valakibiztosan@valakibiztosan3 ай бұрын
  • Yeah, even though it’s not entirely Netflix’s fault. I would rather weekly releases over a few months with breaks that end off in place that makes sense than it’s stupid batch release model. That model killed my hype for Pokémon journeys so much that I never even finished. There was just no point because 6 months prior I knew what had already happened

    @mylesedgington4229@mylesedgington42294 ай бұрын
  • The US dub release got delayed to March so the gap is even wider

    @bigguy952@bigguy9523 ай бұрын
  • They busted moved the date back to March 7, 2024. So frustrating

    @RioIII@RioIII3 ай бұрын
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