Ben Shapiro: Civil Discourse | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Bill: *farts* Crowd: claps like a circus of seals
It was ridiculous and 11 minutes is too short to expose bill on his Trump delusions
Oh God I'd LOVE to give it a good SNIFF...
*brrraaaappppp*
A fart is the liberal mating call.
Lmao
The first thing he brings up is tribalism. Then says I am a democrat and the audience goes nuts! How Ironic can you be?
*Leftist doublethink.*
John Lingel - Great point and I must admit I missed that poignant morsel of Bill Maher hypocrisy.
What are you gonna do.. humans are innately tribalistic :\ Every political debate should be moderated by a panel of psychologists to call anyone out when that crap happens.
It's why they're losing the infowar so badly.
So you disagree that people are innately tribalistic?
Everything aside, Ben appreciating the jokes from the opposite side was beautiful to watch.
He's always fun to watch, and has a great sense of humor.
@@stevenparker3541😂😂😂
What Jokes ?
8:28 So, 4 years later I want to ask: "What about now, Bill? Do you still believe that?"
I know watching this today is insane.
😆
This didn’t age well for Maher 😅
@@brandons9913 I mean that report didn’t exonerate Trump. It was covered up by Barr, have you read the actual report?
@@loltrip2741 which report? The Steele Dossier?
Bill: ladies he's rich Ben: my wifes a doctor
Frantic S. Lets talk about Adam Schiff what is he doing about gun violence What is Adam doing? kzhead.info/sun/ndiuisOxZJxriYE/bejne.html&authuser=0 kzhead.info/sun/aahplpGkq6iZdWw/bejne.html&authuser=0
@@Sullaban no
Lester Walker Ok buddy, just relax... Everything’s going to be ok.
Lester Walker I had a talk with the doctor and he said it was a small stroke with a hight chance of recovery, you are going to be ok buddy!
No way.
Ben saying “dude” is my favorite part
Conspiracy Witch literally right as I read this comment he said dude
@@griffin__sutek4958 surprisingly happens more often than ud think 🤣
9:47 haha
I had to rewind it to make sure I heard correctly
@@SuperSoliderXZ Ben def wanted to call him something else. 'Dude' was his subtle way of showing him disrespect haha
I respect both of these guys. I agree with them both on different subjects. This is what this country needs more of, especially now and days.
I'm sry but the democrats REFUSE to talk about anything anymore...well I and all my friends are gonna take our democratic asses into the NEXT ELECTION and vote their asses OUT!!!!!
Bill Maher is a weak minded half thinker.
More of a chosen group controlling the narrative on both sides? Pass
Man, this was good. Its too bad American Politicians cannot debate this cleanly and professional. This was refreshing. Would love to hear an updated interview.
Both men begin by denouncing tribalism. Crowd proceeds to demonstrate tribalism.
riddle me this, how is being a sheep "tribalism".
@Luka Marinčić LOL, you're another anti-Semitic Leftist! Dems are the party of group identity. How ironic
Ya , but Ben doesnt apologize or cave in. I love what trump has done. Both partys have gone crazy and trump is bringing it out
@David O'Bryant What's wrong with gaining racial statistics for job applications? Trends can be used to see things that might not be obvious, and also help with recording history. Is this information dangerous?
There's a reason the crowd is the audience and not the speakers
I’d love to see these guys get together again and rehash this exact conversation based on everything that’s happened in the past 3 years.
They have if you aren’t aware on bens podcast
@@tiredturtle3538 tired turtle in my bird will Squirtle Squirtle
Well Bill would have nothing. And I dont think Shapiro is the "i told you so" type. I dont think Bill is the "i was wrong and you were correct type" either...
Ben had Bill on his Sunday special March 12th
@@motoracer77 I'm checking that out, to see if Maher eats his own words.
“Is he a doofus or an evil genius?” Bill’s face was just like dang he got me LOL!
You could see the cognitive dissonance hitting hard as he realized his mistake, and it's why he immediately tried to justify the statement that you don't have to pick one or the other lmfao!
Don’t be ridiculous- he recognized Ben using a standard debating tactic .”It’s a or b- pick one” Bill knows better, there are countless other options, “picking one” is a trap to pigeonhole the opponent , which Bill easily avoided .
That was a weak trap set up by Ben that Bill easily avoided.
@@icu3869 But Bill set himself up for that. You can't be both stupid and smart.
And Bill twisting it into "Hitler was crazy and a genius." What an Idiot...doofus does not mean crazy,very manipulative with an audience that doesn't know better.
I love to see more discussions like these, I think they are built on mutual respect and mutual ground. These makes us learn more from each other than merely arguing for the sake of arguing. Maturity doesn't come by just aging but by Humbly seeking knowledge for a good course.
Man, I'd love to see Ben come back and have this conversation now.
I actually think they would be on a very understanding level of each other now.
Yeah. All that bs about Trump and Russia. I’d love to see Bill talk about it now since recent evidence came out pointing that it was actually Hillary that had Russian assist in the election. Basically payed through several parties to have them lie to the fbi and start an investigation on Trump
Bill is becoming a Conservative with each passing day. RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA was always a lie. I think/hope Bill will recant his parroting of liberal's false narrative.
@@stephanie1671 bill would never do that because if his hate for trump.
@@spiritwalker8515 Why wouldn't he? Trump is no longer in office. This is no longer about Trump or his perceived failures, its about Biden's and the Democratic Parties in general....and they have proven to be MANY.
Ben said “The Constitution is pretty damn durable document, thank God.” The audience was deafeningly silent. Tells me all I ever needed to know about those people.
Good catch!
Yea unfortunately the modern day Democratic Party could care less about the Constitution.
@@emanuelcorazzi Ummm, remind me of the party that smeared shit on the walls of congress.
@@chadhenderson5514 Fringe Donald Trump voters.. are you satisfied? Do you feel like you won the game of who's party is better or worse because I could care less. That's incredibly immature when it's clear to the eye that elements in both parties have committed egregious violations to individual freedom in this country. I made my comment because we currently have a President from the Democratic Party who has ignored Supreme Court rulings and has verbatim said that what he was going to do was "unconstitutional" but that the greater good in his eyes was more important. Petty tribalism holds us all back.
@@emanuelcorazzi And I said what I did because smearing shit on the walls of congress during and attempted overthrow of the government is extremely unconstitutional.
Discussions like this are what the country needs. Ideologically they are different but you can’t find where you agree or change minds if you don’t talk about it in a civilized manner. Good job by both and kudos for Ben going on the show and Bill for having him.
It's so weird to not hear cheering when Ben lays down some solid logic and eloquent points. I don't think the audience could keep up
They're Dems.
They depend on a flashing sign that says "applause".
God damn dem Dems. >Shakes fist
@@MiTRLikey please don't ask God to damn anyone. It's super old testament, I know - but cringey in light of the gospels.
I thought so too. Pretty sure it's not a matter of keeping up, but peer pressure. Maher went a little hard for a minute or two so he set the tone...kinda hard to be the first to applaude "the other guy" on a talk show like that. Got to give them both credit though. Shapiro kept his cool when Maher was getting hot, and I think Maher read that. It ended up being a really good interview. There's always *some* kind of common ground to be found, right?
Bill: "Ladies he's rich" Ben: "I'm married, and she's a doctor"
Ben had Bill on edge the whole time. Because Ben is actually a very smart conservative, which Bill rarely invites smart ones on.... With the exception of Ben Shapiro, Nick Gilipse and George Will.
Brian Jones and Dinesh, but that was years ago, and he even gave Dinesh support, because it was before he went to prison. I don’t agree with Maher or many things, but he, at least, has a decency to have a civil debate with people who he doesn’t agree with.
I don't know about that my man... You should check out the debate he had with Pier's Morgan... The 1 time I have ever agreed with Pier's Bill was screaming and yelling like my 1 year old nephew. Then we he got his ass handed to him by Duncan Hunter he kept insulting him.... Then when Nick Gilipse was on Bill Maher kept screaming and shit because he was getting owned on gun control.
Woulda been a nice hat tip to his fans... :)
@@PepeHorne his paid audience dosent .
I can respect Maher for having Shapiro on, most people are afraid of him. A lot of people hate Shapiro simply because he's a conservative, but I haven't found a more fair conservative to date.
That statement is a sad indictment of conservatism as a whole.
A lot hate Shapiro on first sight. I know it is unfair and not true, but his facial expression when he talks and even the tone of his voice and his fast talking style make him look like an asshole. I know he is not, even though I disagree with him on some things.
Tracy Ripple except it was Maher that was asking the questions. If Ben had been firing off questions left and right at Mahar, I guarantee Maher would look like a fool. Maher was hitting balls into the outfield and Ben graciously caught all of them, and a couple got thrown to home plate.
Maher is one of the last good Liberals
He's not really a liberal.
Can you imagine if they debated today???
Bill “hey Ben, would you like to come on my show, sit in front of me and listen to me talk while my audience applauds me?” Ben “sure, but I’ll still win.”
You can clearly understand what he says he doesn't talk that fast. Nice how you try to bully someone but I bet you're against bullying
Is English not your 1st language? It’s not that hard to follow
Tracy Ripple he did, he gave you the facts whether you want to believe them or not. Do you expect him to pull up the articles right there on stage so that you have the proof? Literally everything he said is public information that you can find with a quick google search.
Name one lie.
He doesn't talk that fast, let me throw it back at you. Maybe you aren't fast enough to comprehend the truth.
It's like Bill's audience is paid to clap and cheer whenever Bill gives a sentence
Like trained seals. Though I disagree with Bill on many points I still like that he has the balls to have the conversations. He has to get rid of the trained seals though.
@@michaelfischer7810 definitely
Their is a applause sign that lights up.
@@vdoc2760 That makes it even more disingenuous. again trained seals barking and honking the horn on command. Another example would be a Pavlovian response like a dog salivating for treats. it adds nothing to an important conversation and distracts from the topic at hand. Why do the unwashed masses only clap and cheer for Bill's comments and not so much when a guest with differing opinions speaks?
@@michaelfischer7810 Agree. I wonder if they screen their audience.
At 9:10 The look on Bill's face after asked "Is he a doofus, or is he an evil genius? You gotta pick one" You can literally see the cognitive dissonance hitting so hard as he realized his mistake, and it's why he immediately tried justifying such a ridiculous statement as "actually you don't" lmfao!
And just like that, everybody in that audience and Maher were proved wrong 😂😂
Not wrong I'd say manipulated
The audience are sheep.
You mean like Jesse Benton? Who was funneling money from Russia to Trump Campaign?
He is intelligent to an idiot . I went to school with tons of these guys in Hebrew school and college .
Facts!!!! Beautiful lovely undeniably perfect facts!!!
Ben came and turned this into Real Time with Ben Shapiro.
Bill even said liberals don't go on Conservative programs because they would get buried.
No. No he didn't.
Yup!
Bill can only attack Ben on trump and not his conservative values, cuz that’s a debate he can’t win.
@@vermontnorthern9717 Yes, yes he did!!
Lets see them both come back together to discuss the Mueller report now.
Pretty obvious - The Mueller "report" was $30 million down the toilet.
Pretty clear Trump was only looking out for our country only!
And the the Democrat bad actor Indictments are coming soon from A.G.Barr, Durham, et al.... Bill was/is full of it... Mueller found no collusion by ANY American with Russians to affect the 2016 election (verbatim from the Mueller report part 1). Bill the Dumbocrats made it all up to cover their kickbacks/payoffs from Barisma, et. al. What really chaps my hide is how sanctimonious the lying, stealing, evidence destroying (HRC and home server), Dumbocrats really are. And now this infantile socialism tripe.
@@dbjkatz The Mueller Report investigation actually made the U.S money. The fines they collected from all the people who ended up being convicted as a result of their work with Trump.
@@grahamgrider8718 is like to see any proof of that. Id like to see who they stole money from too.
I'm liberal but I really admire Ben Shapiro. The Democrats need someone like him one their issues. He's very intelligent and speaks at 100 mph. He makes some good points on many things.
These 2 are examples of exactly what the world needs more of. Conversation from both sides. Left talking to right and vise versa instead of shouting each other down. Was it a perfect exchange, no. But it was civil. Nowadays no one wants to listen to anyone anymore. Bravo gentlemen.
This discussion should have been longer.
I don't think Maher could handle the truth any longer.
Maher did fine. In fact, I counted one logical fallacy from each of them and the rest were sound points. The audience was annoying, though.
OPEN MIND Bill knew he would be blasted away with the truth. He knows he was match for Ben.
OPEN MIND interesting seeing a psych KZheadr here... Thx for your vids
Ben wanted to be on the panel, but he had to leave in order to observe the Sabbath.
I'm not even a conservative but damn I really like Ben Shapiro.
aint he great?!?!?!
He is cool but sometimes says weird shit.
Well, you really shouldn't because he's a religious idiot with some of the nuttiest ideas ever.
I think that Ben is an logical person mostly and I appreciate that he is willing to critique his party. I don’t agree with a lot of his views but I can appreciate that he can back up his views appropriately.
@@pacoalvarez5245 Like??..
Ben talks a lot more sense than most people
I love Bill acting like he really put it to Ben during this segment. This was easy sailing for Ben. Bill has avoided having him on the show for obvious reasons (his supernatural debating skills), and it's nice to see these two sit down finally.
That’s a lie
Ben was back for the panel with Malcolm Nance. And Bill went on Ben's podcast. So, yeah ... I don't think Maher really avoided him. Easy sailing? Well he looked like he was backed into a corner, when he said Trump wasn't the thought president. Or when he said the constitution is a durable document, when Bill asked him if he thinks Trump respects the rule of law. I'd say otherwise he handled himself pretty well, but he did admit to some things about Trump that he probably wouldn't have otherwise.
@@percussionmax Bill had avoided having him on until this one-on-one setting. Once he saw Ben was pleasant and sensible, he followed up with the other segments. Ben was extremely divided on Trump, so he was never backed into a corner about him. Maher needs to give it a rest on Trump. He blathers on and on about him, and it gets really tiresome. He needs to find another target.
@@Macleodking How can you say for sure that Maher avoided having ben on his show until that interview? ... you can't. Could be Ben wasn't available. Could be Bill had other people in mind to invite that were more interesting to talk to. Oh, I agree it's tiring to hear people continue to talk about Trump ... but, he continues to say and do stupid shit. So people will continue to talk about it I guess.
Ben's been over this on his show, they do Bill's show live Friday nights. Sabbath falls on Friday night and as a religious Jew, there are certain customs he must attend to by a certain time. The sabbath falls late enough in the day for one day a year to make this interview possible.
600 officers at Berkley. Silence ensues.
ProudNothing damn these comments are toxic
Exactly
Out come the name calling when the intellectual war has been lost.
Bill was barred from speaking as well.
Loreaver Welcome to the internet
This dude compared "Lock her up" to being assaulted at a gas station..... and the mindless puppets are clapping in the back.
@@ssjcosty why
Trump... On "Lock Her Up": "Because I heard my opponent had scheduled Michigan unexpectedly was like all of sudden with POTUS Obama and Michelle and Bill and Hillary - No, forget it. That plays great before the election but now, forget it." Oh yeah, what happened with that? He lied about THAT TOO? What are the odds?
Naively, I thought, criminals should indeed be locked up.
SsjC Are you stupid?
Being yelled at a gas station isn't being "assaulted at gas station"
I actually like Ben Shapiro and his values. Now I understand what he is doing. God bless you
Russia collusion part didn’t age well lol! Still love both of them, always refreshing to see them speak to one another civilly
Shapiro not backing down, and holding is own against Bill. I love it.
ms wpwm how so
Donald R. DeChicco as if there was any question that genius could “hold his own” versus a clown?
Donkey Punch Knock-Out because on the Daily Wire he discusses policy you knobhead. And as he stated he agrees with most Trump’s policies. He’s damned if he agrees and now you damn him for not agreeing. See your stupidity?
In it to sin it.
Tracy Ripple you’re a moron, where does he state that trump supporters are vile? I can point you to many times he said that the Democratic Party and liberals are emotional, low IQ morons though. Have fun voting for Elizabeth warren or Nancy Pelosi
Wow, this didn’t age well after the Mueller report came out
no impeach before proof.
@David Chorak obviously didn't read the report, want the PDF?
@David Chorak see open dialogue is the cornerstone of democracy. Cheers.
@David Chorak oldest government huh? since when did that happen?
@David ChorakThat depends how you define government. The dutch had an republic since the 1500 which inspired the U.S republic and loaned it money. But it's constitution was only created later on.
Wow... I look forward to 8 years under President Shapiro.
"This was filmed before a live robot audience."
Awww someone is mad Ben got dunked on
@@hexstan179 79 people agree with me, along with 99% of the comments. But seriously, I don't see the dunking. Can you point it out?
@@hexstan179 yeah lmao bill was cutting of ben across the 11 minutes a shit load of times. It has been over a year and the Mueller report had no signs of interference.
@@thinktempest7457 Showing the vast majority of his own viewers on his own youtube channel don't agree with him is relevant? lol And in defense of what argument? The joke I made about the audience being sheep?
@@thinktempest7457So I said something, someone said something totally unrelated to my joke, i respond by saying most people on Mahers own page disagree with his assessment. Theres no opinion or argument there, just stating a fact. I asked you is that not relevant, you then said thats rhetoric. Maybe bc its so glaringly obvious. lol idk if you just misconstrued the text or you're sick of posting Korean girls to pinterest? It could go either way. 'Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?' (chris tucker voice)
"Man, this tribalism, huh? But yeah, there's only two teams, and you're team treason."
Haiku Metzger there needs to be a laugh react lol
LOL g1 fucking idiots man
This comment deserves a like from everyone on the planet.
100%
THANK YOU
This should be shown as a medical documentary about the early symptoms of TDS.
I wish they would let each other finish talking so we can finally see a un-edited full complete thought argument.😂
get rid of the audience
It’s interesting watching this a few years later and seeing that Ben was right about everything and Bill is starting to come around.
Bill: I put on both my socks first before my shoes *Audience begins clapping and cheering*
LOL this is awesome
@Michael Cheng *and burn down the studio*
@Michael Cheng lol my brother does that.
@Michael Cheng Also wet themselves. :) :) :)
And just like that, Ben Shapiro was never invited to Real Time with Bill Maher ever again. LOL....
Problem is that Shapiro is just so much more knowledgeable about politics than Maher that this is almost embarrassing.
Yup. Maher's just the court jester.
This was just in June, genius.
tracy, such a dumb cheap overused comment you libs slap on every intellectual conservative without ever being able to back it up. yall who imply that there is something wrong with Ben's arguments, back it up, or shut up, please, or did they only put that as an empty one-liner in your dialogue tree?
@Austin Hernandez a comedian that every thinks is smart like Ben. Should tell ya what mainstream media is all about, ILLUSIONS.
Imagine a world where people with opposing opinions could talk (throw in occasional bits of humour) and end the conversation shaking hands? I admire both these men and sided with both of them, if that's possible 🤔
I know this was four years ago, but very nice to watch a healthy debate like this. A breath of fresh air.
Bill - “I believe this” Ben - “I don’t” Bill - “ you don’t?” Audience - *claps in astonishment*
Hahahha Fucking hilarious u see how Ridiculously the left side of the Political spectrum sheep clap
@@KelchKidsAccount You* have never been to a trump rally then.
I’m pretty sure they had signs that told them to clap since it is a live audience and it is his show and most live shows give the audience directions it’s a comment so I don’t use punctuations
@Noah Vale You being a Jew (yes you are), and not supporting Conservatism/Conservatists is supporting the annihilation of Israel, and with it, America/Americans... and your GO TO" PUNISHMENT"for, God forbid, for having a differing opinion?. Male anal sex!?!?(Bend Over)... Makes me believe your sexual attraction to BEN SHAPIRO is in internal conflict with your disassociative beliefs....poor you....
Ha!! Really though
Ben has the balls to do what most people don’t. Walk into a room full of people who strongly disagree with you, get on stage, and tell the truth even though you know full well the crowd will hate you for it. No matter what “side” you’re on, don’t be a coward and tell people what they want to hear. Stand your ground.
Based upon your own standards, you obviously you believe that Liz Cheney has bigger balls than any male Trump slave in the GOP. As does Adam Kizinger. Pence recently stood up to Trump...you know...the psycho who nearly got him lynched because he couldn't stand losing. I guess he's finally growing a pair too. About time.
The problem of the interview is that they bounced all over the place from topic to topic, mostly just agreeing that Trump is a douchebag and making fun of him. I'd like to have seen them debate about the actual issues more instead of talking about Trump so much.
@@lucasharvey8990 The reason they kept jumping all over is because Bill couldn't get the answers he wanted out of Ben especially since Ben was going by honest facts not feelings. You notice the interview ended the moment Ben didn't argue about a point but agreed with Bill, that's a Democrat.
Your ground is waiting for trump to grab
@@sarahdavenport9462 Do you know who was irrelevant during this conversation? Adam and Liz.
Ben is so classy. Real intelectual gentleman. Big and much respect to him. Same with Bill Maher.
Bill: *Breathes* Audience: loud annoying applause for 5 straight seconds
DrippyTV seriously!
DrippyTV bc it’s his show so his crowd duh
DrippyTV They're groupies. Maher tells them how deep , intelligent and superior they are. zzz..
LOOOOL!!!!!!!!! WAAAAY BACK SINCE POLITICALLY INCORRECT
Won? Won what? This wasnt a debate, it was a discussion.
Historians will look back at this audience and cringe.
I'm cringing right now. I've seen this before. The audience is dumb as rocks.
Historians will not be looking at this.
@@MiggsMultiple You know, I'm pretty sure "audience" as a collective would be referred to with "is", not "are". e.g. The audience is small, or the audience is large, or the audience is stupid. But thanks for telling me.
@@MiggsMultiple Hmm. I will not edit my comment, but I guess you're right. Thanks again for telling me.
wtf_ab: "Sheeple"!!!
Love listening to Ben Shapiro talk!
To bad he just sounds like your stereotypical trust fund baby!!!.
Bill’s arguments were based on investigations being factual while in reality, no conclusion had been determined. These are the grounds for so many arguments that the Democratic Party lean on. Would love to have Bill and Ben rewatch this interview and then discuss the outcome along with provide insight given the current policy shifts.
Shapiro sounds like he's running at 1.25 all the time.
He does this cheap thing : when ever he can’t answer , he make a joke about Trump. So cheap
@@bobjob3632 You must be talking about Bill right?
@@matthewtaylorgmu I'm sure
i slowed my youtube to ,75 the first time i watched one of his podcast
@Nick Boswell no Ben talks like this all the time, Mickey mouse on speed 😁
I think this conversation would be a lot more productive if it was in long form. 3 hours long, no audiences, no cheers and boos.
Absolutely, I agree.
I’m afraid the closest thing to that is the Rubin report or some type of panel discussion.
And if Shapiro was talking to someone who actually knows how to debate. I don't agree with Shapiro on almost anything but I have to give it to him here because of Bill's non-arguments.
Bill couldn't fake the funk that long
The cheers and boos make it awesome, listen to some of Shapiro's long form debates, where he slowly wins the crowd and gets them to cheer for conservative ideas.
Ben did really good in this, good conversation
People don't seem to understand, you can Be a Republican or Democrat and not always be happy with who is currently leading the party you prefer. People also need to realize, neither party is perfect. Both tend to lie, do corrupt things, and at the end of the day, take your money. So you aren't always going to be 100% in full support on every idea, if you are... you either have no mind of your own, or your completely full of shit. I can proudly say I am an Independent for these reasons.
Slaughter Me Street so does that mean that you are a sometimes Trumper?
I’m an independent Trump supporter.
Slaughter Me Street ....thank god someone realizes that
People also need to realize trump was a registered Democrat until 2008. There is also a video from the early 90s/late 80s (I am too lazy to look that shit up, look it up “trump presidential interview 90s” if you don’t believe me you dumb cunts) where he explicitly states he’d run as a republican were he to ever run for public office because they’re a bunch of morons 🤦🏻♂️
Slaughter Me Street I love it.
It's rad when Shapiro says "dude" take a shot every time Ben says dude. Probably get about 3-4 shots in an hour.
I'd pay to see this happen again today before election.... especially after all of the facts that have come out. Additionally, let Ben respond a little more on some things before shaping it towards another issue. I would even subscribe
Mad at them saying “lock her up” Alright with saying “he’s like Hitler”
John Smith9867: It's an honest mistake when Bill can't see what's right under his nose... it's not exactly small.
@Beep Boop Recent developments show that Comey may be locked up. Hillary finally gives depositions under oath in September . . . so let's see .
They have no problem saying lock HIM up
Thats him being fake offended
"Grab her by the p@$$y"
I love Ben for the fact that he ain’t afraid to go to these shows when he knows their set up against him.
Bill literally pointed that out at the beginning of the show.
Then you need to see the bbc interview with Andrew neil.
@@leanneclements143 the andelrew Neil interview is different tho bc Andrew Neil is actually a republican or more right leaning .
THEY'RE
But he is such a great debater it turns out great.
I liked it when Ben called Bill “dude”. The only time I’ve seen him “cool”. It was awesome
They both have good points this is what you call a fair debate
"How about we stop the 'lock them up' talk" *crowd applauds* One year later, Nancy Pelosi saying she wants to see Trump behind bars lol
Oh someone that actually committed crimes should be behind bars? What I want to see? Trumpski's prison pix
Doug, won't happen. Sorry, sunshine. 😁
As well as he should be because he is a traitor
@@Doug50pl Where is the proof of it?.....or are you just showing your Trump derangement syndrome ? Trump 2020!!!
@@panolete Good grief, I wish these Trump freaks would apply some objectivity to their thinking.
"Ladies, He's Rich" Ah Bill.. Have I told you that *MY WIFE'S* A Doctor?
It's not a story the Jedi would tell you...
His wife is a doctor who doesn't understand basic facts about the US healthcare system.
Richard Atkinson how so?
That was funny for this reasoning: They were talking about Trump Tax cuts Maher [I assume], opposes the Tax cuts because 'they help the rich' Ben says the Tax cuts will hurt him Now if Maher really thought the tax cuts 'HELP the rich', and the tax cuts 'HURT Ben' Then Maher would asssume that Ben is POOR But because Maher concluded that Ben must be RICH, means he must not really think the tax cuts 'help the rich' Or Maher must be thinking Ben is lying Otherwise Maher would have said "Ladies, He's Poor"
kuzz I'm assuming you won't actually refute any of Ben's points any deeper than calling someone in the comments autistic. That most likely stems from you being incapable of understanding what the interview was actually about or that you're too dumb in general to understand a political point that is't supported blindly by your echochamber.
I absolutely love the civility these two had with each other. I love when conservatives and democrats can have productive conversations
Ben’s a class act. I respect him a lot for being willing to face a hostile audience and keeping it cool.
Bill: I just took a dump Audience: *Claps vigorously*
Because Maher exposed hypocrisy.
Lori D if you are referring to Ben Shapiro as a hypocrite then you are crazy! If not then I apologize!
@@lmdeboom eh? Did you even bother to watch the video?
@@jacobrudder7582 Yes. Why?
@@lmdeboom where is all of this hypocrisy that he "exposed"?
“We live in a time of utter tribalism” “You see, I’m a democrat” *Roars and claps from audience*
True. No self-awareness whatsoever lmao
(why i never attack, english)
Actually he said, "We seem to be living in a time of utter tribalism, and I think you and I have a few things in common.", and "I never really wanted to say I'm a Democrat, but I think right now, I'm a Democrat." Conflation is bad, but whatever.
Jay Thomas Bill saying "we seem to be living in a time of utter tribalism" implies it is bad, and this is implied the entire video. The audience clapping when he describes himself as a Democrat is tribalism. The original comment makes sense. Reading comprehension is important.
@@jayargee492 Critical thinking is important too, the words "utter" and "right now" have meaning.
Big respect to Ben Shapiro here, we need more of these kinds of discussions, civil and respectful
Ya I think Bill is kicking himself for this episode. Ben had it all right
Maher won on comedy one liners, Shapiro won on reason and civility.
Steve C comedy? You got low standards
It is easy to make laugh a biased audience.
This is Shapiro in every argument. He wins on logic, stats, facts, biology; whereas the other person wins on name calling, shaming, humor, and even who can shout louder. #googleit
Tracy omg because you don't understand him or don't know how to search his "bullshit" up on google doesn't mean he is spewing so much bullshit
Maher does that when he’s feeling the heat, it’s his tell.
Have to be honest.. As someone who is considered "liberal" I really can't argue with anything Ben Shapiro is saying here. We may not agree on everything, but I think he is definitely an intelligent person who is capable of being rational and objective. I don't know why Bill keeps attacking Trump as if he is expecting Ben to unconditionally defend him because Shapiro isn't doing that. He has always been capable of being critical of Trump when he thinks he is wrong.
Jack Casey, is he expecting Shapiro to unconditionally defend Trump though? Maher chose to discuss the cases where Shapiro agrees with Trump and they elaborated on their disagreements.
Billy F, "Maher has an extreme leftist myopic view on everything" Did you watch the episode with Ben Affleck and Sam Harris? Maher is definitely not with the left with respect to the muslim religion. He's also extremely anti-PC. I'll bet this is the 1st episode of Real Time with Bill Maher you've ever watched because you're incapable of watching anything resembling left-wing.
Billy F, are they "small aspects" though? It's one of the first things that came to Shapiro's mind when he was getting into how Democrats are "insane". It's what Trump supporters are most vocal about. Maybe I should've said they both mentioned but didn't go into why they did or didn't support trump, but Maher was totally fair about separating Shapiro from most Trump supporters, which are idiots. Everything before Shapiro got into how Democrats are "insane" was completely civil and fair. I can tell your education didn't go beyond high school and you probably hated writing class. You sound like you're arguing with someone about how your favorite wrestler is the best. If you want an intelligent discussion on policy, go read a book or take a macroeconomics class. Stay off the internet. Shapiro and Maher are in the business of manipulating people, not educating.
Jack Casey then come to the libertarian side. We can want you.
Jesse Collins TBH I'm not really into this whole "side" or "team" mentality... I like to make decisions on case by case basis. My conservative friends call me a "liberal" but I have a bunch of guns. It seems a lot of people either think it should be every man for themselves or every one gets a free ride. I think you can help people in need without just becoming a socialist country. Things aren't as black and white as people make it out to be.
I would give the upperhand to Ben on this one. He speaks more clearly and his arguements are well thought out.
Who else is back watching this after the Durham report came out?
I love both these guys!
man! ben stood his ground. is not easy when the host and all the audience is againts you
It is when you can be honest and admit your likes and dislikes with Trump as a conservative. Liberals on the other hand suck the nipple of the democratic party regardless if they're right or wrong. Ben has intelligence and humility. Bill is just a one sided goof with an audience to clap him on.
It’s not hard when you’ve studied your arguments as much as Ben has and you’re as quick on your feet as he is
@Mister Mann I can agree with that.
Absolutely unit is what Ben is
@Mister Mann I will agree
Notice how Bill always has to change subjects when he doesn’t have a valid response?
No it's the fact that Ben took up all the time and gave no time to talk
ICY UXORIN Ben was literally cut off every time he tried to say something. Ben would spit out good points and bill could not respond.
Did you even watch the same video? Ben was interrupted every time! See what you want to see I guess
Drew McKeown I’m literally on bens side. That’s what I was saying
@@koreycantrell2223 I know, sorry wasn't replying to you, but to a comment by ICY UXORIN below your OP 👍
2:12 "erm, actually, my wife's a doctor."
i can disagree with both of them and still have the respect for both of them. love discussions of intelligent people
"I'm a democrat" the crowd roars
Ugly Fredo I cringed at that and I’m a independent.
@@thackston6241 I'd say I'm a centrist but I didn't expect Bill's audience to be a bunch of libtards
Well, he's a freemason. Their motto is "ordo ab chao". So he's doing what he is supposed to do by saying you can only be 2 ways; polarize so we kill each other once again.
@@Thrakun God forbid he says something that the crowd doesn't like
@Thad Stevens ik it's very unfortunate how people interpret shit
I bet this guy is married to a doctor.
I find it hard to believe that he would be married to a doctor. I mean if that were the case he would mention it frequently
I doubt it. You'd have heard.
No. Don't believe it! Him and a doctor? No way!
Pfff, ridiculous, where have you heard that ?
He is.
Bill was so thoroughly outclassed here it's almost hard to watch
watching in 2022 Boy...if eating your foot was a literal thing....Bill Maher would be legless 😂😂😂
I generally lean left, but I have to admit Shapiro is fairly consistent with his beliefs, regardless of what team they're from. I have to give him that.
Ali Aldabe I would get that "lean" looked at my good man! Leaning left has become something unrecognizable to what it used to.... but then again, so has the right. So leaning that way is no good. Hmmm... is t possible to just lean forward, I wonder !? 🤔
K Johns Lean your own way. The Democratic Party has lost their minds while the Republican Party is full of liars and shills. I’ve just said fuck it and I’m going my own way.
Yeah and the nazi's were pretty consistent in their beliefs as well. But fuck them because their beliefs marginalize groups of people. Ben Shapiro is anti immigrant, anti Muslim, anti poor, and is a weasal who actually changes his opinion based on what his billionaire funders want.
Ali Aldabe well not a surpries when a muslim lean left😂😂😂
Ryan Dutter Show me facts that prove your claims. Otherwise, u are a lying douche.
Bill: *Talks over Ben* Crowd: *WOOOOOOOOOOO🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🤙🤙🤙💥💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂😂😁.
It really is unreal, isn't it. Not a big deal though, sounds like a crowd of like 10 people. LOL!
Blinking cows Ben: talking super fast over bill Republictards: Oh hes GOOOOOOOOOOOOD💪👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
I saw a comment exactly like yours (same emojis) in a video from Ben Shapiro's show xD
Clorp Top That's exactly what an NPC would say
@Clorp Top they really be npcs
I would LOVE to see now how Billy stands by this today. And calling Ben a traitor is just the dumbest thing ever
It's tough to have "Civil Discourse" when the entire room is on your side and they burn through the guest's time with applause. Get real Bill Maher
yup but not for ben, cuz thats what drives him even more, its just hard to recognize cuz hes too calm, except his tongue 🙂
Kind of like when that socialist wanted to debate Ben in a room full of Ben Shapiro supporters with someone who works for Shapiro literally holding the microphone. If you go on a talk show and think that the room is going to be mixed with supporters of both people you're no longer living in reality. Of course the room is going to be full of people who are with the talk show host.
@@catothatidiot5243 If you're talking about the Q and A section then it's understandable why a moderator needed to hold the mic, you can't have one person dominate the time as everyone deserves a turn to speak. Usually Shapiro events have some great discussions but yes the same applies to any presentation. Actual Debates often have a diverse Audience, that's the difference between debate and TV production - Bill Maher: Civil Discourse falls into the latter category. It's scripted, superficial Television. I for one prefer open form conversation where the Applause is tempered. Clapping is literally a waste of speaking time.
Its hard to have civil discourse when you're too busy trying to talk over the host who was nice enough to let a grifter on
Completely disagree. I thought that they both behaved very well and the audience is clearly going to support Bill. But they also boo him on many occasions. Maybe watch the show a little bit more.
Damn…this clip HAS NOT aged well. I’d love to see Bill’s reaction if he were to watch himself having this discussion today. The irony.
I was saying the exact same thing
Bill is pretty good at admitting when he was wrong.
okay but why tho
Yep. A whole lotta clips not aging very well these days...
@@a802jz okay but why tho
I love that Bill actually had Ben on his show. I may not always agree with him but at least the guy has some decency and common sense
Bet Bill doesn’t have the pecans to have Ben on again with everything that’s happened.
Lol he did look it up
I used to watch Bill Maher on HBO when I was a kid bc I thought he was funny. Then I became an adult.
Haha... so true... but I suspect that what actually happened is your IQ became higher than room temperature.
Problem is that Shapiro is just so much more knowledgeable about politics than Maher that this is almost embarrassing.
LOL it's so true
Cristian Proust actually I have great parents. Just because they allowed me to be a free thinker and not shelter me from the world doesn’t make them bad parents. They encouraged me to watch any type of intellectual show as a kid bc they knew I’d grow up one day to have a better understanding of the world. You can’t shelter kids. They are going to see it all eventually anyway. Parents are to make sure you don’t act like a little shit, not be a political censorship team. I grew up in an honest transparent environment but thanks for your comment.
This jew? Racist much?
0:38 LOL. Bill thought Ben was saying that he’s a fan of his. I’m pretty positive that Ben said “I’m a fan” in response to “let’s be civil.”
No.... Bill was going to say he's a fan of civility(just like Ben), but stopped short to joke in case he got heated.
Well, in his latest appearance on The Rubin Report with Eric Weinstein and Jordan Peterson, Ben did suggest that he is a "fan" in some sense, or something like that.
LOL I thought that was funny too what an idiot
Yeah, I caught that too. Narcissist. Sorry Nathan - swing and a miss. You're either a fan of civility or you are not. If you're a fan of it but fail to live up to that, it doesn't mean you stop being a fan of it - so it doesn't make sense to say what he said in that context. In fact Bill said, "we'll see if we're each other's fan at the end of this."
Michael Wayne and missed
You could literally swap the name from Trump to Biden and it’s the exact same story
He is the only conservative that can get his point across in a interview like this because of how fast talks. Shouldn’t be that way
I love how this is posted from bill maher’s Channel and everyone in the comments back ben Shapiro
Because he's the smart one here. I can't believe it took me a while to realize how emotional and idiotic Bill gets, which leads him to think irrational. Yet he criticizes Trump on that, which hes right about, but practice what you preach. I'm not a conservative either, but you don't have to be a fucking conservative to realize that Ben is an intelligent and rational fucking man. Jesus.
No, they are not! Ben Shapiro was all for the Supreme Court then and now he's calling them idiots.
Bc he's a hyper internet troll with a young, mindless KZhead audience. It doesn't take much for them to click and agree. Bill Maher is a political commentator with a legitimate TV show, whose viewers don't all need to view this for free on KZhead.
@@TheCrouchingZebra Hilarious. You make a great example of an internet troll. Good job!
@@chrisvalenzuela7911 lol have fun watching a guy who talks so fast that people can't correct him when he lies. That or he tries to get all his info out as quick as possible bc his audience doesn't have the best attention span... I mean no one wants to watch a 30 min video of a guy spit antiquated reasoning.
Ben Shapiro politely presented clean arguments and clear rebuttals backed up with long lists of evidence. He was completely professional. Bill Maher read out a few tweets, shifted argument topics, frequently shifted it on Shapiro's "character", and relied on widespread common knowledge... in addition to frequently interrupting Shapiro and not even responding to what he was saying. Shapiro wins.
Amy Lee Maher had no facts just emotion
So glad I’m not this brainwashed.
@@976thedude damn some one is butt hurt
I give them both praise for being so civil in there debate. Something that doesn’t happen often
This aged well 😂