Razer DeathAdder V3 Pro 4000hz Wireless and Wired 8000hz VS DA V2 Comparison Review
Returning to mouse reviews with an amazing mouse, these new DeathAdders are much improved over the old ones. As someone who used to use DeathAdders as a main, it's great to finally see some of these changes.
Definitely worth checking out if your hand and grip fit the size and shape, but it is a large mouse, and as always, I do recommend go as small as possible.
Please be patient as I update the top mice list, I'll add mice as I do videos for them, so yeah I'll get to the Viper V2 soon, which should actually take top place now that Finalmouse have discontinued the Starlights.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro on DeathAdder mice
00:32 Shape Analysis
03:49 Overall Feel
04:17 Size and Dimensions
04:46 Weight
05:49 Do I need 8000Hz polling rate?
06:56 Latency Testing
08:22 Sensor Testing
08:52 Texture and Build Quality
09:18 Button Sound Test
09:51 Talking about button feel
10:33 Software Razer Synapse 3
11:18 Feet and Cable
11:47 Price
12:31 Conclusion
14:12 Where It Ranks
15:06 Outro
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I miss the unique review style you have. Please do more mouse reviews
+1 the market is exploding with all kinds of little subtleties in mouse shape, skates and pads people use. This is a great opportunity for rocket jump to become the grandfather of information for pros and aspiring gamers.
It's expensive to buy mouses and do reviews on it usually reviewers wait to get sponsored by them to get the mouse from them.
Yes please come back. Your level of detail is unmatched.
@@Hipqp hausgaming is my go to review channel nowadays
As always thanks for the detailed review!
I've had the MZ1wireless for a few months now and it's by far the best mouse I've bought. My rank in Overwatch is pushing into Plat and now solid diamond. Thank you for what you do! You have always been my go to when buying a mouse!
I prefer the dav3 shape to all others. I used the superlight before and after switching to the more comfortable (to me) shape of the razer I can't go back. Glad to see more reviews from ya.
That's cool, what's your hand size and grip style?
@@RocketJumpNinja Palm medium size.
For me ir is viper v2 pro all the way Tho if viper signature was available here i would really like that
@@RocketJumpNinja Hey man, using the DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless in Fortnite I noticed that there is more delay using it wireless(1000hz regular dongle) vs using it wired USB Type C.
@RamonScott777 really? I'll have to check it out, I didn't notice any. What DPI were you on? And how did you have the dongle plugged in? Was it in the PC directly or with the adapter?
I cannot wait for the viper v2 review, i might drop a comment how this mouse, despite my struggle with my previous first gaming mouse(the fk1+ coming from a 19/9cm hand player) really made me tame the ambi shape further and managed to improved since then, once the vid drops and good you see you back, Zy, we missed you :)
Man how much we have missed you!
I missed these reviews. Hopefully we get one for the ULX. Either way, wonderful video as always.
Awesome video and explanation 🔥Still loving the MZ1 wireless by the way! Would be great if an updated version was to be released down the line
My main buying point is optical switches. It's nice knowing that the switch is going to last longer than every other part of the mouse, never have to worry about double clicking. Right now still using the Viper Mini, hoping they offer a midrange wireless model soon. I highly recommend not running Razer Synapse on your computer.
yh Im currently on Viper v2 pro cos of the optical switch, the shape is not perfect for me and is too flat but after adjusting to it, it's still a very good mouse. I do want to try logitech's offerings but so far they already upgraded to optical switch on a few mice. And what about synapse that make you recommend not running it? I have no issue running it so far.
@@puntybrah same never had any issues with synapse and I had several razer mice (abyssus, viper mini , viper v2 pro now)
IDK, Razer synapse is running well for me, I have Deathadder V3 Pro with hyper polling dongle.
@@puntybrah I had the same issues with the Viper shape and the G pro X fixed that for me, give it a try
@@drizzlydr4ke hoping I think i will try to be patient and wait for optical switch upgrade to hopefully come out soon for the g pro, Ive had terrible experiences with logitech's switches.
Great review as always. Waiting for the Lamzu atlantis and Pulsar X2 review
YES FINALLY I MISSED YOU SO MUCH!
Been my main for a month now and I'm loving it! Been looking for mice that would replace that my existential love for the mx518 and this just about done it.
No one does it like Zy, welcome back
Been using DeathAdders since forever. Nice to see them improving and getting on top of the game once again. When my current one finally dies seems like a nice update.
Welcome back! After a generally meh experience with the DV2 Pro (mostly because the price definitely doesn't match the build quality and the synapse experience) I am on the lookout for another wireless ergo mouse without holes that isn't Razer or Glorious (or g502 shape). Hopefully some show up on your channel and site in the future.
Keep em comin Zy. Missed ya bud hope all is well.
Great content as always! Could you make something related about sound? I'm curious to see what you use and what you think is important for competitive gaming. Your take is quite unique on everything and I like that a lot.
much needed video honestly
Nice review man, now this is true RJN content!
HES BACK
still the king of mice reviews!
I just got the DAv3 wired and I gotta say I fell in love with it the moment I put it in my hand and started using it. The mouse shape is PERFECT. I love it to death. You can move this mouse around so easily compared to my last mouse the SS Rival 310. It feels really good going back to the Deathadder. I haven't owned one in a few years. This mouse is built so well. Ohh I am using 1600 dpi...... There is a big latency difference from 800 and you just divide your sens in half.
The goat is back in town.
I was using Glorious Model O for around 3 years, and lately have been getting some wrist pain due to how it is in the middle of being not large enough for me to comfortably grip it in palm, and not small enough for claw/ftip. I was given a Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 at work and noticed that I had much less strain on my wrist with that mouse. After release of DAv3 I've initially liked the shape due to similarity and latest tech. Since grabbing it, I can use it for longer and also have improved my aim since I'm now more comfortable using that mouse and don't think about how I have to grip the mouse all the time. Right now I have something in between of claw and palm - my fingers curl up a bit, but rest of my hand is rested on the back of the mouse. With balanced/speed pad (AC+) I feel like this is the best setup for me rn
Its called hybrid grip for future reference
I've tried and owned many many mice, wierdly enough I aim my best with the dav3 even though I fingertip grip it something about the size and curve lets me control this mouse really good, I was maining the x2 mini before that and even though they weigh the same the weight distribution on the dav3 makes it feel much ligther.
been a while, hope your doin great and, i'd rlly love if u stress more on what best shape (theories) u have cuz i have been struggling and i cant find my shape
I was excited about the DA V3 non-pro as well, not because of the 8k polling but because of the shape. If there was a DA V3 Mini pro/non-pro, that's probably what I would try next since my main now is a Keris Aimpoint wireless which falls into the small ergo mouse category from my previous Lamzu OG, and I totally agree with RJN when he says going smaller is better. The Pulesfire Haste 2 wired also has 8k polling. I hope RJN reviews that next.
Testing the wireless, should be getting the wired soon, so not next, but yes working on it!
Heck yeaaaaaaah
I wish razer will make a dav3 mini wired 8khz
After a long time with the dav3 I can say that I would love for three things to be different: - More forward sensor position (not much just 0,5-0,7cm) - I changed my grip into more of a claw grip, and I keep noticing, that it is hard for me to grip the mouse with my pinky finger. I wish it flared in a bit more likt the older deathadders. - the older lower front of the buttons allowed me for a more secure / snug grip. Yes that encourages people to palm grip, but I found it a lot more comfortable, maybe a middleground would be the way to go.
A crazy thing you could do would be opening the mouse and putting 5% of weight on the back half of it the amount you want the sensor the be further in the front
Maybe have a look at the Haste 2 next if you can, Zy. And by the way, welcome back king!
Will do and thanks!
Can confirm that Zy's size/grip recommendations are accurate. I'm 21.5x11cm and this mouse fits perfectly. I do still prefer ambidextrous over ergo for aiming though. My top shapes are the Vaxee XE wireless, ROG Harpe Ace, Darmoshark M3 for L/XL size. Viper V2 pro as well with the right grips. I have yet to test Zy's rail at my hand size but I think I might have to in the very near future.
What grip? I have 20x11,5 and can only fingertip grip it.
@@dopetruck8382 Hybrid Claw Fingertip, most refer as "Knuckle claw".
@@TinmanFPS I used to play that when I was a kid but can’t anymore for some reason my hand start to hurt like hell. I’m guessing you are a casual player that don’t play very serious or mouse dependent games? I play only apex high elo ranked so it’s very important :/
@@dopetruck8382 I still use this grip as an Apex Master level player.
@@TinmanFPS cool guess My hand is weird
waiting so long for this review
The legendary zy returns!?
good to see razer adapt to the market needs, without needing holes or led gimmicks
Recently, i picked up a corsair sabre rgb pro because I wanted to try out a higher polling mouse. Only cost like 35 dollars on amazon. Even though im only on 165hz, I could tell it was definitely smoother than my current 1k polling cooler master MM712. But even then, I still prefer my MM712. The shape and the coating means more to me than even having a more accurate/faster sensor. I guess consistency and comfort is more important to the pros than the latest and greatest tech.
recently started using deathadder v3 pro with standard 1000Hz, with 6400DPI - 0.75 in game sens Overwatch 2 and 3/11 windows mouse speed (it equals to 0.25x which is 1600 and only affects cursor movement and not raw input for games that use raw input, so i can use the equivalent of 1600DPI for desktop use and Overwatch 2 in game cursor), it feels super smooth and responsive, amazing ergo mouse
I really do wish they would bring a left handed deathadder back with the shape of the new V3 pro. Would love to try it out
great video! razer deathadder v3 is great! btw, r you gonna post a review on the finalmouse ultralight X mouse any time soon?
Been using the DA for the majority of my gaming life, the same shape is just awesome for me, the V2 was ~30EUR in a gaming shop, so I snagged 2 and I'm all set.
How is the V2 holding up? V3 cost almost double, not sure if it's twice as good.
@@unholydonuts V2 costs the same because it is always out of stack xd
I like the v3 but the front is too high for me.. precission Seems to be less with that. But higher button height gives more stability in movement( cleaner and more straighter lines) So something in the middle seems to be perfect for me
More from Zy
I wish I liked this thing, but I couldn’t get a good grip on it. I bought this alongside a viper v2 with the plan to pick one and return the other. Because I was a palm gripper I thought I’d pick this no problem. Plus, I had hand pains with the viper at first. But after a while I realized I couldn’t get a decent grip on it. It always felt like it was gonna slip out 9f my hand. And the more I went back to the viper, the more I liked that, and my grip style changed to suit it. The hand pains went away too. This, plus me getting the viper for around $50 off led to me picking that instead. And now I‘ve basically been forced into a claw grip lol. It’s pretty comfortable and I’m happy with it, but I always think about what could have been, considering this was the better mouse for me on paper.
Whatever aspect ratio you used to record this I love it. Looks awesome in theater mode.
Great to hear, what resolution are you on?
@@RocketJumpNinja 1440p and that's what I watched it in.
Yeah but ultrawide or 16:9? Because this is 21:9, made for ultrawides. If you watch it on a 21:9 monitor, it'll fill the screen in full screen! But great to hear if it's still looking good on 16:9, I was a bit worried it wouldn't.
@@RocketJumpNinja It does look nice and cinematic on 16:9 but I had to zoom in a bit on some stuff like text (your website, prosettings, razer software part, etc). Maybe you could do some editing magic on small text based stuff.
@@RocketJumpNinja 16:9 ratio my bad. I liked it though looks very cinematic. I also have 27" monitor, but maybe ppl viewing on a smaller, 1080p monitor could have issues. Maybe you can poll this and find out.
What do you think about the fingertip mice like the Zaunkoenig M2K and the ones from Gwolves? I don't I ever saw you review or even talk about those? I am tempted to try them out but still unsure.
My hands are at 17.5cm x 9x5 cm. i’ve been claw/palming my deathadder v2 forever, and the deathadder elite before that. I tried the steelseries rival 650, model O wired, and the razer naga. none of their shapes have called to me since. i’m interested in the v3. i’m very used to larger mice, as you can probably tell, but i’m also very curious about smaller mice due to so many people saying smaller is better. i cant seem to find anything that’s wireless, has updated specs, and is small enough that is sold on US Amazon. (i have a gift card i’d like to use on my next mouse) Any suggestions are highly appreciated. Thank you guys:)
wow great review... i miss the old rjn, you know... the controversial one :)
He's back.
I would like to see a video about the "lower vs. higher dpi" you touched on during the review sometime. Speaking of, it's very good as always.
I really like the starlight 12 but it is just a bit too small for my hand size. Does anyone have any suggestions on like grip tape or anywhere I can find something similar to the infinity skins to add just a bit to the shape? Thank you! Love the review Zy and very glad you are back
Hi, I’ve been using a Mamba Elite for the last few years and it only recently started acting up (random disconnects from the computer at random intervals which interrupt tracking), previously I used the DeathAdder Elite but i much prefer the shape of the Mamba Elite (I find the outward curvature on the deathadder elite, especially on the right side (when looking from top down) to be too aggressive) (I also love the tilt scroll since I play games and do programming too but I know this feature is not really a thing in modern gaming mice). I have rather big hands and prefer a asymmetrical mouse shape. I’ve been looking to get a new mouse to replace my current dying Mamba Elite though I’m not sure what to choose. I’ve heard that the DeathAdder V2 has slightly reduced curvature but I’m not sure how much that is the case and how much closer it is to the Mamba and how this new V3 model compares to it too. I’m also open to other options from other manufacturers. What recommendations/suggestions would you be able to give for my case? Thanks in advance!
I have the DAV3 pro, DAV2 pro and Mamba Elite and I still prefer the Mamba. I haven't found any mouse that's as comfortable as the Mamba. It sucks.
Great review as per usual, also a bit nostalgic :D. Anyways, I wanted to ask you something in regards to the MZ1 wireless, because I'm considering buying it. I know that it uses a slightly controversial MCU known for its idle delay (about 10ms extra click latency if the mouse hasn't been moved for 5 seconds). However, I also know that XTRFY's newest mouse - the M8 - has some new firmware that removed this 'problem.' My question to you is: Do you know if this firmware has applied to the MZ1 wireless as well - or in other words, is that idle delay no longer an issue? Thanks in advance, and hope more reviews are coming soon!
Neither the M8 Wireless (w/ default firmware) nor the MZ1 Wireless have the flat delay added after five seconds of button and sensor inactivity. The flat delay is only present on the X2/X2 Mini w/ launch firmware and Atlantis Mini with the "short sleeping mode" firmware. Instead, on the M8 and MZ1, the first click event after the five second idle delay will be extended to an effective click latency of roughly 9 ms, provided the debounce time is equal to or lower than 6 ms. Hence, if debounce time is 2 ms, 4 ms of latency will be added, at 4 ms, 2 ms will be added, and at 6 ms or higher, nothing will be added.
@@pzogel well in that case, i guess I'll cope it since it's on sale rn :)
Love your reviews from a lot of years until today. Over the years I've bought mouses based on your reviews and feedback. I love the old deathadder mouses, but I simply can't use them, since they slip (a LOT) from my hand, especially where it holds the mouse with pinky finger and ring finger. Was a nightmare to me, reposition the crosshair, since mouse it slips real hard from my hand. With the new model v3, it's wayyyy more confortable and stable (less slippy ) - and I have medium/large hands 19.5cm x 10cm. I've tested the razer viper 8k and feels super Confortable using multi-task and gaming, Viper doesn't slip on my hand, at all. . Love the viper, but I am in doubt between the 2. But that's not the principal point. One ("stupid" but with logic) question; did you consider Steelseries Qck+ a control mousepad? Finally I found some mice's that I like and suites me , with great shape,flawless sensor and great specs - Razer deathadder v3 wired, and Razer Viper 8K. But after many years (since ever) using Qck (without even thinking about it) I just found now, that this mouse pad feels to fast to me, and makes me have lack of control while gaming and consistency - CS Go - essencially. But since i'de don't experienced other mouse pads, I need a real trusted feedback. Many says that Qck is a control pad, and many other says that is a medium speed mouse pad and not a control pad. I would appreciate opinions, about this subject, especially from you Ninja. Maybe it's a plabebo effect on my head. Or the qck is truly a control mouse pad, compared to all other mouse pads. Like I said, could be placebo effect, but I feel that I have no control over the mouse on this mouse pad, it slips like butter, I feel no actrict / control / stopping power., slides a lotttt, what make me think that it's more a speed pad then a true control pad.. That's the reason of my question - maybe qck is a truly control mouse pad, but I have no comparasion, since I've always used qck+ (first I used the hard surface versions 5D? I think, then I use the qck fabric version for long years, till today . But I notice that I can't place the corroshair always on same spot, even I spend hours training aim, and mechanics.
Btw: I'm a "no fore arm" player, with a hybrid palm/fingertip mixed grip style. From the 2 mice's which one you can advise me in this conditions ??? Hands 19.5x10cm, I fell the Deathadder v3 is little big on hand, and the Viper is a little small - some mm extra on Viper and would be perfect to me , anyway, both they are the closest mice's that I found that fits my hand well and my game style + both are affordable to my wallet size 😅
Return of the king.
I wonder when Razer is going to update their Orochi. Actually I use V2 now and I think this is the best size and shape for me. By your encouragement I've switched Steelseries Prime Wirless to G305, and then I've tried Orochi V2. I was comparing Orochi vs G305, despite your opnion that Logi has better shape, I've found that Razer suits me more. It feels more stable and confident in my hand than G305. Maybe that's because of my hand ratio - 17:9,5cm, which is more similar to orochi v2 ratio 🤔
would you choose the new wireless zowie ECs over the deathadder? I'm loving the DAV3 but I'm tempted to buy the ECW and compare.
Hi! I want dae3 wired for a palm grip, its ok for 17.5 cm with 9 cm? In the video is almost the same size of hand and looks ok for palm. Thanks!!!
Dav3 wireless with 4k here. 1) dont want to go back to 1k. 4k feels fanstastic paired with 240hz monitor 2) im usually a palm gripper, but I go into fingertip gradually and it feels good like its natural 3) I really wish the clicks were a bit quieter. I switch to my superlight at night time just because the clicks are too loud, but they are satisfying. Would of been a perfect mouse for me if the clicks were quieter and lighter just my preference and opinion. 4) 4k drains battery almost a bajillion times faster! Went from charging once a week to charging once maybe every other day. (Heavy usage) maybe can last 3 or more days if not heavy user.
yes, the mamba elite is a very good shape, even better than EC-1, old deathadders e.t.c because the mamba elite has less nuanced curves, more confident slopes. the ec1, DA dont need to be that long in length, the mamba elite proves that by having a better elevating feel that hooks your fingers more therefore not having to flay them out to reach the best click area with finger
The stuttering in Quake Champions at higher polling rates with raw input enabled is a conundrum to me. I have two PCs one x470 based one x570 and I’ve found that the hitch only happened on the x570 pc. I have tried all the tricks and hints I could read up on to fix it on the x570 none have worked. It happens at 4k polling with a viper v2 pro and a Gwolves 4k as well but stops at 2k. I don’t have any wired mice to test the 8k but I’m sure the issue would persist.
not having 8 buttons deal breaker for me. Did they fix the mouse scroll jitter with da3?
or make it more durable so?
I wish if you implement sensor latency in your review.. Would be the first on youtube, besides that it's the most important one.
I like my DeathAdder V2 a lot, despite Synapse is horrible. Since I have big hands I would definitely choose a DeathAdder V3 if I had to buy a new mouse. I love that they removed the RGB. It's useless anyway, since you hardly see it while using the mouse. Less weight and less options to configure in Synapse is just great. Last but not least, I also like that they removed the side pads. On my V2, the pad in the thumb area was already heavily worn after a few months, which of course also continuously changed the grip feeling in that area. I'm happy to avoid the side pads and enjoy a consistent grip instead.
how big are you hands since mine are 8x4 would this fit for palm grip on it since i dont want no cramping or anything
@@poonzy7112 8 x 4? You are talking about inches, right? My hands are 7.9 x 4.3 in inches and I can hold the DeathAdder V2 in palm grip as well as in claw grip. But please note that cramping can still occur during the first few days, if you come from a different mouse shape. I previously had an even bigger, heavier ASUS ROG Gladius II Origin before the DeathAdder V2 and it took me a few days to get fully used to the new shape and weight. But after them I really felt a lot how it was working for me way better.
inches yes sorry, sounds good I'll give it a go someone was telling me to get a zowie ec1, I don't know if you think that's a better choice or what not?
I seriously used to love razer products, their ergos are honestly pretty top. The only beef i have with them as a company is the longevity of their products. I have broken basically every razer product i have owned within a year of buying it. Had a zowie ec2-a for over a decade, thing is still going strong, gonna retire it and put it in a display cabinet soon :p
will you be doing a viper ultimate v2 review?
Now having the deathadder even if you don't have pain with the viper it might just be uncomfortable having to grip harder to get more stability on the viper especially with bigger hands, the DAV3 also gives you a more locked stable feeling (using claw grip)
I’m finding this lately. Viper v2 is an amazing mouse but with larger hands it just doesn’t feel comfortable for me. Shape is definitely more important for aim than the latest sensor and tech.
The huge $200-300 range for the top end of wireless mice makes them cost prohibitive for a lot of gamers. Could you consider doing a 'budget wireless' roundup video?
Once I get familiar with all the latest mice, yeah I'll see what I can do!
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@@RocketJumpNinja I am happy to see a new mouse review, I thought I we would never have those from you anymore so it is a great surprise lol. You should already be aware of all of the models going around, but the Pulsar, Lamzu and GWolves mice are all great. As for super budget but still good options, the Darmoshark M3 and the Ajazz 199 are great picks. Both have top sensors and, if you reduce the debouncing time on the software, great performance as well. The Darmoshark has the same shape as the Finalmouse air 58, and although the Ajazz I got looks like the Superlight, is more similar to the viper mini, but with a better and fuller shape in my honest opinion. Both should be avaliable on Ali (although the Ajazz is out of stock atm), and the Darmoshark is on Mechkeys. Darmoshark will release a mini version of the M3, and they are also planning on a mouse that looks similar to the mm710.
i am curious as to why you havent designed a "wide" mouse? like the coolmaster mm720 with width of 7cm or more? i have 20x10 hands and even though this mouse is short it is the WIDTH that makes it feel good in the hand. this is because it fills more of the pouch of your palm therefore reducing the manipulating needed to "grasp" the mouse, reducing fatigue and causing your hand to flare outward by force so no energy is spent on contracting your hand. we need mice with new ergo shapes with 7CM or more width
Not sure if placebo or not but ive noticed higher scores in kovaak's and better valorant scores in the firing range 8k vs 1k and if i focus enough, i can notice the difference in accuracy Edit: am on viper 8k
What about the feel of 1-3-1 vs 1-2-2 grip? PS. What the pros use might might be skewed due to sponsors.
the king is back 👑
the king....has returned!!!
I guess now I'm really sure what shape of mouse I'll look for starting now Edit: I like how the mouse skates looks like a person smiling
My hands are 19X10 cm...Can I get used to Viper Mini if I use Hybrid Grip (Relaxed Claw + Palm) ??? Or is it too small??? Coming from G203.
In your video from January 2021 you stated quake champions runs fine on the 8k viper (1:07 in that old video) yet here you showed there were stutters in quake champions. So QC is unplayable at 8k hz at the time of recording?
Good memory. It's because Quake Champions added raw input since then, so whatever their X input is seems to handle it or just bypass it, while raw input makes it the same as Quake Live and other games with stutters. It's a game engine thing, so whatever games are doing to handle the higher Hz is why some stutter and some don't.
@@RocketJumpNinja ahh very interesting. Thank you for the response. I'm not too knowledgable on the topic but I wonder how Nvidia reflex might affect it. QC did remove the reflex nvidia option from the menu back in October (i'm not sure the reason) but are returning it to the game in the June update (one of the devs stated on reddit). Might be worth testing again then. Thank you for all that you do regardless :)
I use the wired at 4K hz because of the price, not gonna pay 2x for wireless + dongle. All in all, the wired version comes out on top for me because of the price to performance ratio.
I hope razer will make a dav3 mini wired 8khz
does the pro have the same shape as the normal one
can u do a review on the Xtrfy m8 wireless? it looks oddly comfy
@rocket jump ninja The reaction time test is an incorrect test to use for this case. As the click latency doesn't change with different polling rate. It only affect the sensor delay.
Polling rate is the mouse communicating with the PC, so yeah it actually does help click latency too.
@@RocketJumpNinja You're correct, but as seen in Battlenonsense analysis. V8k's Button delay didn't change with the different polling rate. It only changed the sensor delay. Another mouse behaved like you explained, which was the G203. The G203 button delay changed with the different polling rate setting. So it depends upon the manufacturer to let the button delay be affected by polling rate setting or not. reference: youtu(DOT)be/mwf_F2VboFQ?t=130
Yeah so for the wired mice, the clicks are always polled at 125us intervals. The user setting only affects sensor data. For wireless mice, the sensor and click data are tied together, and are both affected by polling rate (explained by someone at Razer).
Also since you've replied, I've found a fix for "laggy" or "stuttery" high polling rate mice (4000hz+). And am more than happy to share it in the gaming community. it works by assigning a single core for your mouse, and a single core for your GPU. (they shouldn't be assigned to the same core, and not to core 0) By using "microsoft interrupt affinity policy tool" -Find Intel usb controller and set a single core -Find Usb Root Hub and set the same core as usb controller -Find Nvidia gpu and set a single core If using SMT/HT then assign to every even number (0,2,4,6,8) or odd (1,3,5,7). Because core 0 and 1 are actually the same core, but different threads. So you should assign to only one thread, not both. If you need further help we can comment here or through discord "amb6994"
@@RocketJumpNinja hmm, interesting. I guess that makes your point valid. Button latency is currently too good. (But wouldn't be too sure to say the same for sensor latency)
I have the DAV3 Pro and love it, but the scrollwheel is jumping pretty often for me and i read that more people have that problem. So beware of that if you are thinking of buying. Love the review btw!
i just ordered the DAV3 Pro, wdym by scrollwheel jumping? should i be worried?
Well I guess you don't know until you have the mouse. It started pretty quick for me after I got the mouse. It is starting to annoy me to the point that i'm thinking to RMA the mouse. Maybe you don't have the issue. I hope for you that's the case! good Luck!
Nice review, Make the mz1 wired at 4000hz plz 💘
Thanks! And curious, why do you want 4000hz specifically?
@@RocketJumpNinja I think im now at my 4th mz1 I had many problem with the cable, but still love it, the shape fits really good, my hand feel free. I tried the viper 8khz, the feeling was amazing but the shape was not. Im maybe a disturbed guy but I don't trust wireless, I tried the mz1 wireless for 2 month but the feeling with the wire was way better. So why I want to play with ur mouse at 4000hz, cause im sure it will be amazing. I got a 360hz and sometimes in long distance tracking, I can feel the mouse could be better, maybe its the sensor or polling rate.(maybe its Diabotical) I just hope the mz1 WIRED will be updated every 4 or 5 years.
So 8000hz mice are rarely doing 8000hz, in fact they probably aren't while you're playing, and I haven't really been able to notice the difference in smoothness, even on a 360hz monitor. The main advantage to 8000hz is lower latency, but it's 1ms vs 0.125ms, or 0.25ms for 4000hz. In other words, it's probably not possible to notice the difference. That means without a real advantage, all we're left with is possible issues running at the higher polling rate, as many game engines simply can't handle them. Some computers can't either. Surprised you haven't liked the wireless, maybe it's in your head? Should be the same as the wired, in terms of game play. I use the wireless one because I actually prefer the lower back and also because I don't like cables determining where I can move the mouse. Sorry to hear you've had cable issues, I've heard of those too, haven't experienced any, but make sure you reach out to Xtrfy support for help on that!
Have u tried the Viper signature edition or Pulsar X2?
Would it be a good option for a relaxed Claw grip. My hand size is 19x10.5cm
any plans to test the VAXEE XE WIRELESS?
i got big hands and wanted a solid light mouse for palm grip I assume this fits that ?
In the beginning which is the v3 right or left?
I have a Logitech G402 and need a new mouse as my side button is faulty and when i play games the mouse sensor feels slow or laggy so will the Razer deathAdder v3 wired be better on the speed with the sensor movement. I did bought the same logitech mouse on ebay thinking it will be fine but the sensor just feels slower even though it the same make mouse G402 so it must be a manufacturer problem that if your lucky you get a good mouse on the sensor.
I find myself touching the scroll wheel with my index finger (unintentionally) whenever I'm doing fast movements, or swift vertical movements (like when you're editing in Fortnite) what should I do? My hands are 20x11 at least.
The shape is so close to a perfect ergo but I just absolutely despise the front right side. The ring finger ledge feels like it cuts off way too early (I have never had a mouse feel like it's just missing over an entire cm for a finger before), it's not rounded or wide enough, and the flare somehow seems more intense than the V2 in my hand despite clearly being more recessed. But I'm a picky 403 user who literally only likes the Makalu 67 and MM712 lol
The goat!
Could you review the LENOVO Legion M600s Qi?
I pulled out my Deathadder V2 because Im starting to feel some discomfort (on HyperX Pulsefire Haste atm). What I couldnt stand and it only now has become a problem is that tge overhang on mouse2 button is where my finger gets stuck in. Looks like it wouldnt be a problem on V3. But I dont want to give Razer my money tbh.
Disabling CPU C-States in your BIOS will solve the stuttering seen at 7:50 for anyone who owns a 4khz or 8hkz mouse. Your CPU will maybe run a bit hotter and consume a bit more power, but this solved the stuttering in Quake Champions, Apex, everything.
it helps but equally important is the windows ultimate power plan + Nvidia "Prefer maximum performance"
I currently have a 3 year old razer deathadder v2, and I want to buy either the DA v2 pro or the DA v3 wired. Which one should I get?
you should buy or see if theres a viewer who would be willing to send you the original razer boomslang mouse. ik it would be different compared to what you usually focus on for this channel but it would make for some really cool content if you compared the two since your channel is actually focused on gaming mice.
Sometimes i can feel thedifferent between 1000hz and changing it to lower, and then u can feel it the delays more slows when playing csgo with 50 - 40 fps. I think i like the 4k polling rate mouse ofc, as a high sens...
the click latency on the 8k mouse is still sent at 8k even if the mouse sensor is set to 1000. Its always at the lowest latency of clicks
I have small hands and I've always happily used Deathadders, so the size question is relative. Don't let that scare you off.
Hey @RocketJumpNinja is there solution for Razer 8K Stutters in CSGo ? thx 🙏
I been running both Viper 8khz wired and DAV3 Wired and i definitely aim better and more accurately on the Viper. DAV3 is my backup now, but the Viper just has a better accuracy to me, i think its because my hand being flat vs angled gives me better reaction accuracy instead of being angled slightly, but idk. All i know is im nasty with the Viper. Razer just keeps winning regardless
LOL I have the same experience, can't use my DAV3 wired because I aim better with a viper
I noticed on your website that Final mouse isn't on the list anymore, is there any reason for this? I remember the starlight series were rank 1 but I can't seem to find it anymore.
6. Availability - Must be available for purchase new or back-ordered Buying off scalpers or randoms isn't considered "Available". They'll get back on there right up top with their new mouse I'm sure! Don't know when it's releasing.
Windows 11 fairs better with high polling rate/ turning off stuff running in the background helps alot. I cant do 8k on every game unless i only have the game running. Also look into interrupt affinity it helped me alot putting my mouse to 1 core, im also running off a 5950x 32gigs 3200mhz 4090.
plz can u do top list for mousepads