Review of the Vaxee NP01 wireless, along with thoughts on their 4k receiver and the rest of their lineup. I have not lost my mind this mouse just feels amazing for palm/relaxed claw even at ~70grams
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Weight
1:55 Former pro player gameplay
2:40 Shape/Outset AX
4:40 Build Quality
6:00 Clicks
7:10 Side Buttons
8:00 4k/Sensor Implementation
9:05 Coating/Wheel/Battery/Feeling
11:20 Conclusion
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Finally!! I knew you would deliver and give us the review we need! SHOCKING that it took so long
Wired is back. More weight is back. What a beautiful time 2024 is 😅
It will never be back When new releases like sora v2 are pushing ~40gm, this vaxee offering is DOA
@@goochipoochie multiple mice can exist in the world, ppl will just go to what they prefer
@@goochipoochie tac shooter mains usually love their heavy mice. Theres a market for it still. Anyways anywhere between 50g and 70g is fine and sweet spot for most.
@upgradeLemonade Miss your channel man! Hope you got some new videos coming some time!
@@b1vcksheep ty 😘 but no I stepped away from reviewing forever 😔 working at Pwnage now tho
tbh as much as i love like sub 50g mice, I can pick up and aim with a 69g mouse just fine and not feel like its a brick or anything. Shape is King - RJN
Great RJN quote
Great quote from the father of gaming mice
I think weight matters if you are playing for long sessions
I chose my old model d wireless out of razer viper v2 pro, deathadder v3 pro, gpx superlight cuz model d fits my hand the best by far,
It doesn't matter what shape a brick is, we are comparing mice And there is no sane reason to ever pick up a heavier mouse. Lighter mice are objectively better in everyway (all other variables like shape assumed equal)
crazy how a loud ad plays when i was trying to listen to the creaking lmao i got jumpscared
I got a NP-01S after watching this video. This mouse is like sorcery. It doesn't feel that heavy at all. It even feels like it's lighter than my DaV3Pro, GPX, and X2 size 2. Shape really is King!!
I just bought a NP-01 wired yellow
been waiting for this one, did you ever come around with the XE wireless?
another great boardy filling moment
respectable comparisons
Awesome! Hopefully, I will receive my 4K dongle tomorrow.
The only time you really notice the weight difference is when you use the Vaxee immediately after or right before using the something lighter . It's not too heavy, it feels amazing and the build quality is superb. Just got my NP01 and the Outset 4K. And bought the dongle for my NP01S
i was on the sub 50g weight trend till i decided to try np01sw, never looked back. might have to give the full size a try
Using the 4K receiver on the np-01s is goated I cannot lie
I 3d printed a model of the NP-01s and I get why you have a love/hate relationship with ergo mice. It's just more comfortable to hold than my Lamzu Maya as it sits perfectly between an ergo and a symmetrical mouse.
Trying to decide if I take the chance on the NP-01 (been using sensei clones up until a gpx sl which i find uncomfortable due to the long high hump) or if I just get a viper v2 pro since I can return it and then decide between the XE & NP-01 later. Ive been using Nixeus Revels and DM1 S2s until i couldnt buy them so weight doesnt bother me as much as shape.
One of your best reviews for sure. Thing is, any one who has been doing this for a long time, and has plus 8 to 20 years of gaming experience, we've seen all sorts of breeds of tech for mice over the years. but one thing is for certain (especially for those who've been in a competitive scene a long time), at a certain point, weight is either too heavy or too light. When you go too light, you do lose some natural aiming stability. Especially if it's a pin point focused game like CS where hitscan really matters. Where start and stop friction is critical. 80 grams to 85 is Leaving the heavier side of things where I don't think you should go above 90~95ish, if you can help it. But at the same time, going below 70 grams I truly feel you also run into diminishing returns just the same. You don't want to lose stability. Having a weight in between 70 ~ to 90 grams... Opens up a load of versatility with different types of mousepads. But if you've ever noticed, using extreme light weight mice... it doesn't seem to matter what feet you put on that mouse / mouse pad combination - if you ever want more control to slow down the feel a bit more for a "pin point locked in feel". It's almost impossible. It's cause mice are getting too light (you're practically just pushing helium around at this point), and there is a point in time where you'll sacrifice mouse stability / consistency for something that feels like ice. Some people like that feeling, and that's fine too, but weight is a lot more deep than just, 'lighter is better' finding your ideal weight balance with your preferred shape is key. I think the NP-01 is secretly goated because it gets BOTH of these things extremely right. The shape, plus it's weight, and it's sensor implementation... is like.. a 'tri-force of nailed it.' Easily one of the best mice ever made, and definitely a main of mine. I think it's something you should explore more @boardzy - focusing on the mixture of shape, the weight balance, and the sensor (cause not all sensors feel the same, and have mass DPI deviation) and analyzing how and why they make you feel more comfortable while using to acquire targets. Which one feels like 'ol faithful' that you can just pick up and destroy with? Why do you feel this way why using it? Definitely has to deal with these three things. Something as simple as, this is 50 grams so it must be better, is definitely not the answer alone. A lot of people get the wrong idea and just think LIGHT is best. Which simply just isn't true, there's more to it, when the best aimers in the world don't always use the lightest.
I had an np01-s wired, it was my favourite shape but I ended up using lighter mice just because of weight preference. at the end of the day, people are going to use what they play best with, and if this is that mouse, then they should use it.
Wired XE is one of 2 mouse that consistently breaks pb’s and it’s per size at my limits (other one a atlantis mini)
Given my distaste for optical switches in mice, the NP-01 is on my list of maybe might buy someday.
I have the LGG Saturn mousepad. Does it pair well with the NP-01?
I've got 20x10cm hands and mostly use claw, have been using the beast x for a while and really enjoy it but its a touch too small. Should I go for the NP-01 OR the S?
what skates do you have on it? what do you reccomend?
I had to get the NP-01 instead of NP-01s because I have freakishly wide & long thumb pads. I've had many accidental clicks with the side buttons on other cheapy mice which is deal breaker for me. I have a relaxed claw grip while playing intense FPS games like Apex. I saw the NP-01 placement of the side buttons and I really like their high placement. Anyways, I have used $10-20 chinese mice for the last 24 years so I can't wait to finally get a high quality mouse.
Is the shape like the za 13 it’s my favorite shape
19.5x10.5cm hands claw, np01 or np01s? Also god bless boardzy finally got around to reviewing the AX
should wait for better feedback, but i'm 18.5*9.5cm claw and i comfortably use a dav3 which is larger than both.
i would not recommend the np01s personally, I have 10.5 cm wide hands and it felt very narrow for me
I would say np01 unless you want a thin and smaller feeling mouse in which case go for the np01s
I play on the Lamzu Thorn, Pulsar x2h mini, I have the ouset ax vaxee with the 4k receiver i love the shape but the weight bothers me too much
Is the outset comparable to the DAV3 pro ? I really like the DAV3 pro shape but its been giving me issues it keeps disconnecting and need a replacement. Thanks in advance.
Completely different shape
Holy fuck this is godlike timing am currently incredibly torn between np-01 and xe
Bro either is good, both are end game, besides weight but I'm assuming it doesn't matter to you. If you have wider hands go with the XE. It is wide which is why i love it.
I just bought a yellow np-01 wired
I love the np-o1! I don't care what people say but a 70 gram mouse isn't heavy. I've had 40 gram mice to 100 gram and 70 is a good weight imo. You have more control with a bit more weight. It could be a little lighter in the low 60's but 70 is perfectly fine. This mouse is my main now
yeah, i used to have best aim with 87g mouse. (Original G303) Been struggling to find a one that sits my hand to replace that.
can u review the vxe r1
Im maining the glorious chinese attack shark x3 because i have tiny hands and it fits well, glorious to tbe ccp, but i do go back to the superbrick weighing at a whopping 63g, idk why man
I bought the wired yellow np-01 b/c I am an emf phobe. I can stand short bursts of emfs but I try my best to avoid sustained wifi that's within milimeters of my body parts. I use my computer for at least 8 hours every day and I just don't want all of that emf exposure. I even still use an ethernet cable for my computer. Don't get me wrong, I would definitely buy a wifi mouse as they are superior in almost every way to corded, but I am looking out for my health.
It doesn't matter much if it has 4k or 8k or under 50g or whatever. your hand has to like it. Shape is king. The best results will always come when there is the best connection between your hand and your instrument. 🤪. I've bought like 15 to 20 mice to try out at this point...but I think I've found my mouse...Its the Outset AX 😬😬 and the kone pro air as a backup. Its time for me to stop spending. I don't feel the need to try other shapes anymore..I KNOW I can't feel better!
Tbh, I am bothered by something heavier :/ Inertia is still a thing for me, specially playing with higher sens. Nonetheless, Vaxee has been KILLING with their shapes! Edit: By the way, have you tried VXE's R1? I have the R1 Pro, and it is bizarrely my current main over the GPX for claw grip! Bizarre to think how far they've come
*Sips while listening to him talk about random terms that sound like a foreign language at the start of the video*
Boo, can't get one delivered to Singapore, shame. Looks like a mouse I'd have really enjoyed!
The np-01s is strange, is for claw, palm or finger tip or all of these?
All
I keep floating between the np01 and ax outset. I have 18x9 hands and use a relaxed claw/palm hybird. Which one would you recommend as a first Vaxee?
outset was ok but i still prefered the g403, or even a xlite, im gettin a np01 will let ya knw, oh that hand size id say np01 over outset
@@honorabilis1 I appreciate ya! Yeah i was looking ill be getting the Atlantis OG v2 in soon so if that dont work for me the np01 is for sure next.
if you hit middle click and right click it'll show the leds and it tells you the battery life roughly lol
shocking former pro player moment
I recently dropped my Viper V2 pro for the Np-01s wireless. I just feel like I'm cheating sometimes with it. The shape is so comfortable for a small mouse. 18x10cm hands btw
Would be perfect if only 10g lighter and could charge on any usb-c. The way it feels in-game is just different, it's perfectly suited for my control style. The stock skates are the best control skates I have ever used (GSR2). For me shape isn't king, it's performance and this thing performs like no other. With that said, thing fits like a glove.
insane static score
Do you prefer the NP-01 or the Pulsar Xlite V3? Both seem good but I cant tell which is better.
will let you know when i get a np01
@@honorabilis1 thank you
@@AlvaTheSpurned i prefer the np-01 over the xlite the lower button height and i disliked how low the back right side of the v3 is like a higher back on that part which the np-01 is combatable with
they swapped the wheel to normal encoder vs optical bc optical uses too much power for wireless
I used to watch this guy a lot
This vid got me thinking… why don’t manufacturers add weight options for the bottoms? Obviously it’s money because they could just sell more different mouse versions, but yeah…….
boog75 rewiew wen?
which one is more like the mm731 shape wise?
Of Vaxee’s mice the NP01 but it is quite a bit different in terms of scale/flare
just picked this up and personally love it. cant believe how premium it feels. i'm new to mice and havent much else to compare it to, but i cannot imagine its gets any better than this
really excited for when vaxee release their mini mice
Do they have plans for that>
Yeah I dmed them I believe its a small XE and small AX?@@boardzy
June/July I think@@boardzy
It would be cool also if they release a finger tip mice
with skates and a good pad a heavier mouse can feel light
I mean there's a reason why cs pros still mostly use 60-90 gram mice
cant see how weight matters when sens can be adjusted to account for the difference
wow im shocked
did you see that? he said he is only relaxed gripping it and then he aggressively claws it! SHOCKING!
As long as it is not above 80 grams, I'm using it
Can you pair multiple mice to a single 4k dongle like pulsar, or do you need multiple dongles if you have multiple mice?
Nah I couldnt consistently have 2 paired at once, but at one point did so I'm not sure if that was a bug. If you have the firmware of the older mouse updated repairing takes under 10 seconds
I have an XE and Outset and can swap between them with the 4k dongle. You have to put the mouse into pairing mode and then unplug the dongle and plug it back in while the top LEDs are flashing on the mouse. Make sure you update your firmware.
Yo, do u really think the g502 lightspeed is bad? In my opinion its an amazing ergo mouse and they screwed up the shape with the g502 X models
I think what made people love the g502 was how it was also shaped. When I look at the np-01, I see some similarities to how they're both shaped and can see why it would be a godlike mouse shape. Though, I'd still give the edge to the g502 for its superior thumb rest and extra buttons.
I personally give the edge to the np-01 when it comes to shape because its not as jagged and sharp on the corners, so you can more comfortably use a wider variety of grip styles.
Only general population "loved" g502 It was never used by any serious pro player
I feel like you miss a proper mouse click sound test quite often in your videos
Im still rocking Logitech G403 Hero at 88 grams on a speed mouse pad at 1600 DPI and think the mouse feels great giving me both speed and control. I have no complaints.
Review for VXE R1 pro pleaaaaase And the new rawm sa-mh01 the viper v3 clone
VXE R1 should be soon. That other one probably not
I perform better on the Ax than anything in my collection. Include the ULX and BeastX
Vaxee injects their mice with PEDS its very suspicious
@@boardzy haha 💯!
$217 AUD in Australia
not even a SHOCKING in the title after a truly shocking video like this. . .. this is not you..
Relaxed palm grip is the most natural way to hold a mouse whether its an ergo mouse or symmetrical. Fingertip grip is stupid. Claw grip is stupid. I've been a PC user for 30 years. FIGHT me if you want, but you're wrong.
Sounds like a bronze rank take but go off.
@@saint_snow griseled boomer - yes, bronze - never
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Fk sake boardzy stop... I'm going broke
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Anything over 2k is no longer worth it unless you play at 360hz
why are we even discussing 15 grams mate - its 15grams, its nothing, its 15 GRAMS
Is this the same guy who crying over the 77g Razer Cobra Pro? 🤣
Yeah that is small dense trash
im sorry but unless u have 0 strenght 70 grams will NEVER be a lot of weight and ive always thought its better for control sooooooooooo
70 is heavy in games that require constant movement… OW2 is a prime example of a game that benefits from a lightweight mouse
idk i dont play that game @@MIKEx2112
It’s not really a matter of strength lmao
it is lmao @@ghiidra__
its not really a matter of strength its just preference
Weight does matter. returned the NP-01w for the WL beast mini and its waaay better in all ways.
Every single gram matters Simply taking out the puck from gpx2 that is just ~3gm makes the mouse so much faster and light (as it also adds considerable friction surface along with the weight) To put things into perspective the general "superlight" mice of this era are at most 10-20gm lighter from the average (or ~40-50gm compared to bricks like g502) and just this "small" amount of weight difference makes a objectively demonstrably HUGE difference in everyway Tl;dr : 70gm in 2024 is unusable. Specially when new releases like Sora v2 are pushing close to 40gm territory
“Unusable” hmm weird because many pros are still using these 70g+ unusable mice…
I can't use a mouse that light...makes it feel hollow and cheap