Punks, Goths & Mods on Irish TV, 1983

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Expressing individuality through identifying with a group. Discussing the youth subcultures of Dublin.
Gay Byrne introduces representatives from various Dublin “gangs” to find out why they identify with specific groups and dress the way they do.
Punks, Mods, Rockers, Teds, Greasers, Futuristics, New Romantics, Blitz Kids, Skinheads, Rudie Skinheads, Boot Boys, Hells Angels, Bikers and Ska Boys.
The guest are 20 year old Crumlin punk Donnacha McDonagh, 19 year old Drimnagh punk Siobhán Corrigan, 20 year old fashion student John Fiddler from Killiney, and 20 year old mod Gerard Quinn from Fatima Mansions.
For Donnacha, Punk is;
"A rebellion against the old system, the system that we were born into and are supposed to live by but we don’t agree with today’s system so we rebel against it in our appearance, the way we dress and the way we think."
Donnacha describes on the misperceptions of punks by people who don’t understand them.
For Siobhán Corrigan, she dresses the way she does because she enjoys it and she likes to be different.
John Fiddler does not identify with any specific group.
"I wouldn’t put myself in any category at all. I’m just quite a normal person really."
Gerard Quinn describes his clean-cut image and the lifestyle of a mod.
Also on the panel is Dr Edward de Bono who does not see how these young people are that different to others as for the most part they still identify with a specific group. He says there is a dichotomy that exists between rebellion as a form of individuality or as a form of belonging to a group.
This episode of ‘The Late Late Show’ was broadcast on 29 January 1983. The presenter is Gay Byrne.

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  • The most shocking thing here is that the Mod’s mum gave birth to 16 babies and that was considered normal.

    @andrejohnson6731@andrejohnson67313 жыл бұрын
    • And every one of them a Mod.

      @jethrobradley7850@jethrobradley78503 жыл бұрын
    • It was perfectly normal in that era. Especially in Ireland, and for Catholics.. My father, born in the USA in 1920 was one of 13 children. His brother died from the Spanish flu the year before he was born so there were only 12 growing up.

      @elisabethseaton6521@elisabethseaton65213 жыл бұрын
    • Irish Catholic families .... It is the same here in USA

      @yogijaya2897@yogijaya28973 жыл бұрын
    • She must've been sore, bless her.

      @jamesmason8436@jamesmason84363 жыл бұрын
    • @@elisabethseaton6521 1920s is different to 1960s so 16 kids was probably considered strange at the time, but I hear you

      @jjkfl7319@jjkfl73193 жыл бұрын
  • He forgot to mention the other gangs. The police, civil servants, priests, politicians, freemasons etc.

    @ciarancosgrave@ciarancosgrave3 жыл бұрын
    • yes the freemason rapscallions running around designing buildings in secret and not telling us how to do it.... blast those intelligent ghastly swots

      @kieran8881@kieran88813 жыл бұрын
    • @@kieran8881 who do they think they are, contributing to the economy in a positive manner!!!

      @TadhgKennelly@TadhgKennelly3 жыл бұрын
    • No Islamic gangs back then?

      @coloneljackmustard@coloneljackmustard3 жыл бұрын
    • The ignorance of the malignant nature of the masonic 'church' never fails to shock me.

      @andypitchless5515@andypitchless55153 жыл бұрын
    • Fuckn A, mad comment!

      @tex2163@tex21633 жыл бұрын
  • I was a teen during the punk era and every punk I ever met was sound as a pound. They were all articulate and very quiet people.

    @peterdoyle1591@peterdoyle15912 жыл бұрын
    • People in the punk/hardcore scene are just nerds who figured out how to be cool.

      @keirfarnum6811@keirfarnum6811 Жыл бұрын
    • "Sound as a pound"... love that phrase.

      @hankbarcelona7314@hankbarcelona7314 Жыл бұрын
    • @@keirfarnum6811 Bullshit! None of them thought of themselves as nerds. They were just normal people that liked punk rock music. Maybe they were just expressing their individuality. Nothing to do with being cool. What teenager has ever been cool anyway? They were just nice people in general.

      @peterdoyle1591@peterdoyle1591 Жыл бұрын
    • Now they're loud and annoying.

      @PANZERFAUST90@PANZERFAUST90 Жыл бұрын
    • @@PANZERFAUST90 not as annoying as the mainstream media and authorities

      @liltunturi1251@liltunturi1251 Жыл бұрын
  • John Fiddler was so ahead of his time. Even his eye makeup has a modern style that is pretty quintessential today. Also, the bravery of going out like that in the 80s is absolutely astounding.

    @zackv3957@zackv3957 Жыл бұрын
    • @kyfaydfsoab ohh sorry professor

      @zackv3957@zackv3957 Жыл бұрын
    • @@zackv3957 W answer

      @gangstaboy9387@gangstaboy9387 Жыл бұрын
    • After 1960's one could be looked down for that, but before, literally, one could be send to a sanatory if was that different from the norm.

      @HoradrimBR@HoradrimBR Жыл бұрын
    • @kyfaydfsoab Yeah, the vultures were all over it...40 years later.

      @jeremyc9593@jeremyc9593 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jeremyc9593 All designers borrow from the past. It's all cyclic.

      @melissas4874@melissas4874 Жыл бұрын
  • John Fiddler, the one who "dresses strange", caught my attention. Decided to see if he ended up in fashion; ends up, he lived undocumented in New York in the 80s - probably shortly after this interview! - and ended up making a career of palliative care nursing after seeing his friends pass during the AIDS crisis. He now works with Doctors Without Borders / MSF. He's been interviewed in Irish Times. What a remarkable life.

    @b-r-a-i-n-r-o-t@b-r-a-i-n-r-o-t2 жыл бұрын
    • You can see that John was a very special young man. His hair aside, he has a certain presence.

      @mistreme8341@mistreme83412 жыл бұрын
    • He was brought up well. You could tell by the way he spoke - he was very smart, and wanted to use his smarts to help people A bit like Stephen Fry, but a bit less colourful

      @sonicsabbath@sonicsabbath2 жыл бұрын
    • So it was the middle class guy who got to have a remarkable life, whoda thunk it?

      @drumraine6910@drumraine69102 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for looking that up. Interesting. I am glad things turned out well for him.

      @heatherhill6051@heatherhill60512 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much for that.

      @rhyfeddu@rhyfeddu2 жыл бұрын
  • The Punk dude is one of the coolest looking dudes I've ever seen

    @rabbitskinner@rabbitskinner3 жыл бұрын
    • Very mature and controlled attitude for a 20 year old

      @John-ro1iv@John-ro1iv3 жыл бұрын
    • Great guy.

      @antoniovasquez9946@antoniovasquez99463 жыл бұрын
    • He would be a paid model today.

      @BellaBella-jw9ef@BellaBella-jw9ef3 жыл бұрын
    • i was tinking the same thing . love to have seen his swagger yes he didnt walk he swagered

      @stevebell9645@stevebell96453 жыл бұрын
    • @@BellaBella-jw9ef lol wow i don´t think punks would give a shit

      @aliadidondiaa8024@aliadidondiaa80243 жыл бұрын
  • It's kind of amazing how the audience laughed at that John guy after every response he gave at the beginning when they only judged him by his look, but by the end of his interview they actually kind of came around and clapped supportively and laughed at his jokes after hearing him talk for just a couple of minutes. Goes to show what a difference it makes to actually get to know someone even a little bit, compared to only judging them by superficial factors

    @bad_writer@bad_writer Жыл бұрын
    • Very well said. I totally agree. ♡

      @cameleonfleuri@cameleonfleuri Жыл бұрын
  • It's a bit like seeing clones of a young Johnny Rotten, a Siouxsie Sioux, and arch enemies Robert Smith and Morrissey sitting together. Trippy.

    @StevieStitches@StevieStitches Жыл бұрын
    • Yes!

      @sarynwaters@sarynwaters Жыл бұрын
    • precicely!

      @martynaanna17@martynaanna17 Жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

      @venusblackmoon6543@venusblackmoon6543 Жыл бұрын
    • I don't see Morrissey !

      @antoinebeauman6645@antoinebeauman6645 Жыл бұрын
    • @@antoinebeauman6645 The short haircut bloke that calls himself a mod reminds us of a Morrissey.

      @StevieStitches@StevieStitches Жыл бұрын
  • first guy: guitarist goth girl: bassist second guy: vocals last guy: drums

    @padorupadoru8039@padorupadoru80392 жыл бұрын
    • No shit lmao, perfect, although i would put the girl on the drums and the guy on the bass, just because I never saw girls on the bass compared to drums. But the last guy looks like he'd play drums.

      @Grey-sq7dy@Grey-sq7dy2 жыл бұрын
    • holy shit

      @yado7550@yado75502 жыл бұрын
    • N ahhhhh bruv 1st guy is front man 2nd girl drums 3rdstylist 4th keyboard or guitar

      @Anolahmusic@Anolahmusic2 жыл бұрын
    • Nah, the second guy would be bass, bc he's kinda quiet + cool. I feel like the girl would be a badass drummer, the kind where it feels like they vent their anger. Last guy would be the second guitar, and they'd all share vocals depending on the song

      @ratkid4560@ratkid45602 жыл бұрын
    • Yes I would go to see that band

      @jamesbradshaw3389@jamesbradshaw33892 жыл бұрын
  • The punk dude was not a poser. All his answers seemed sincere and honest.

    @raygunn1083@raygunn10833 жыл бұрын
    • I thought the same. He seemed incredibly genuine.

      @KickflipGnasty@KickflipGnasty3 жыл бұрын
    • Love the guy

      @jesseware4682@jesseware46823 жыл бұрын
    • @Juan Perez Why are you bringing politics into this video?

      @Munchael05@Munchael053 жыл бұрын
    • @@Munchael05 Didn't you know, making fun of Trump even in 2021 is ESPECIALLY hilarious! Still! Hahahah! See?! I'm laughing.

      @squeebbb@squeebbb3 жыл бұрын
    • @@squeebbb Oh, I know. I don’t agree with Trump or his supporters. I just don’t see the point in making every political.

      @Munchael05@Munchael053 жыл бұрын
  • This is awesome. I was 17 in 1983 and I would have been madly in love with punk#1. He's perfection 😍

    @TessT101@TessT101 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm 25 now but I 100% agree 😂 I wish I had a time machine

      @himesilva@himesilva Жыл бұрын
    • great pants. and i liked his almost new romantic top and scarf. he did t dress the classic punk here, a bit more dressed up. very cool.

      @helloshiny8475@helloshiny8475 Жыл бұрын
    • He has a Twilight vampire vibe. Gorgeous.

      @BeeKaye@BeeKaye Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed. Punk #1is a snack! Just my type!

      @nikkitronic80@nikkitronic80 Жыл бұрын
    • GARBAGE. THEY WERE GARBAGE, BUT WE WERE YOUNG AND CONFUSE COMPLETELY BECAUSE OF THEM. NOW THEY WORLD IS A MESS BECAUSE OF THESE SHIT PEOPLE.

      @irisbaez1972@irisbaez1972 Жыл бұрын
  • John is just a lovely, natural eccentric who marches to his own drum with the kind of charm that comes from wit and intelligence. He owned his moment with the interviewer.

    @tinastagg6258@tinastagg6258 Жыл бұрын
    • He SO reminds me of Boy George -- sadonic, witty, a good heart and HIGHLY intelligent.

      @thenightporter@thenightporter5 ай бұрын
  • Very gentle and soft spoken group. Proof that punk and other related subcultures aren't violent.

    @kingdedede608@kingdedede6083 жыл бұрын
    • They can be, don't be fooled.

      @DwightLivesMatter@DwightLivesMatter3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DwightLivesMatter Yeah, be careful. They'll steal your laundr5y lint and be very well mannered, but it's a trap, They want your laundry lint!

      @Queen-qy4qc@Queen-qy4qc3 жыл бұрын
    • @@DwightLivesMatter Damn right. I like punk music and even some punk style, but some of them could be nutters as well.

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
    • @@DwightLivesMatter the link between punk and violence was cultivated deliberately by Malcolm McLaren, in order to court controversy; it ended up backfiring badly on both him and some of the bands.

      @mbrady2329@mbrady23293 жыл бұрын
    • @@DwightLivesMatter Nah,we pogoed the shit out of ourselves most of the time,but in the same time you are right,we did things that is not so acceptable,i would say most of the time we were a calm and empatic group,sometimes we were loud but these chaps were living the "everyone is equal" mentality,there were no poor,rich,bad or good,there were us.A neighbour of ours on the other side of the road who was a teacher once came to us because of the loud music,he is a good man who divorced at that time,guess where the party continued,yes,at his place.We never left anybody on the side of the road,did not matter how fucked up were the person. I think the silly pogo dance was all about this,we mauled eachother,if someone fell we pulled him up smiling at eachother,it was like a symbol that means does not matter how many times you got on the wrong side of the life's dick,there will be someone who will pull you up.Sure every group has bad apples,but its not right to judge a group by a couple of bad members.I was from the 2006-2010 punk era in Hungary.

      @adam1990000@adam19900003 жыл бұрын
  • the clean cut mod looks like he has the darkest secret and the most dangerous.

    @leonorrivera6379@leonorrivera63793 жыл бұрын
    • Mod esotericism will tell you that classic gangsters had nice style and could get away with a lot of partying and excitement which mere mortals will not be able to have access or know about. The mod era after all had its share of gangster revivalist movies like A bout de souffle or The Samourai which both look very Mod today with their stylish and cool urban protagonists within a near existentialist script. And the 60s was the golden era in the East end of London of the also stylish real life gangsters the Kray Twins. As far as specifically mods there were mod gangs in the east end which got into violent fights with each other and sometimes banded together to fight rockers. Some of that went into skinhead subculture later on but nevertheless skinheads took it to less stylish, more political and in the 80s near marginal punk influenced territory also looking and acting generally more dumb in the process. Is there anything less mod and more stupid as tatooing your face? Well, the 80s skinheads actually went there and so there were also fights in the 80s between mods and skinheads

      @EclecticoIconoclasta@EclecticoIconoclasta3 жыл бұрын
    • He definitely has that way about him. You definitely don't want to get on his bad side.

      @wewuzwolves4428@wewuzwolves44283 жыл бұрын
    • There is definitely another story there that Gay Byrne never got out of him. He's lived life more than the boy next to him, but he doesn't have as much patter

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
    • @Pine Trees 16 children in his family basement

      @alifakhreddine998@alifakhreddine9983 жыл бұрын
    • I wonder where each of them is now.

      @TheMaxKids@TheMaxKids3 жыл бұрын
  • This is the sweetest, most honest genuine representation of punks I've ever seen. I can hardly believe the end sentiment which is just so devoid of 'hate' and instead met with curiosity, praise. Punks these days, even recently after this, perhaps even before have never been this kind. I belief that it is 'punk' to be kind. Not "Nice", but "Kind". Exceptionally punk. This news program was the first of many and it's so humbling and affirming that this is where it comes from in a sense. These kids are so pure. Anyways, enough from me. Ta ta, ™

    @prioritea.merchant@prioritea.merchant Жыл бұрын
    • In the human world, it is DEFINETELY punk to be kind!

      @jaggedsphere@jaggedsphere Жыл бұрын
    • Disagree that other punks have never been this kind. I went to a metalcore/hardcore festival and found it to be the absolute nicest crowd, who literally wouldn't hurt a fly - everyone was kind, vegan, peaceful, all aggression against society was channeled into the music.

      @driesdedecker4566@driesdedecker4566 Жыл бұрын
    • @kyfaydfsoab Even many of the people who were there aren’t punk anymore lol. Just look at Johnny Rotten. I do know some very sweet guys who were a big part of the punk scene back in the day, though.

      @justanotherhappyhumanist8832@justanotherhappyhumanist8832 Жыл бұрын
    • Kindness, compassion, empathy, & caring are *_PUNK AS F***!!!_*_ 🖤_

      @redwoodrebelgirl3010@redwoodrebelgirl3010 Жыл бұрын
  • John Fiddler was my favorite. His side eye to the audience when they first laughed at him lol I think out of all three could tell the host genuinely found him funny. The mod, not sure if he was nervous or what but seemed like the lights were on an nobody was home! Lol Feel bad for the first guy. Like he was getting intrigued. The rest had pretty harmless questions as were his were about drugs, getting arrested, and getting into fights.

    @bobbibart8927@bobbibart8927 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah I felt that the first guy was being pressed with loaded questions that really insinuate all those negative stereotypes onto him. Kudos to him for answering well 🥹

      @SkitsyCat@SkitsyCat Жыл бұрын
  • John has the most chaotic neutral attitude I've ever seen

    @megankeily4858@megankeily48583 жыл бұрын
    • D 'n' D for the win!

      @mbrady2329@mbrady23293 жыл бұрын
    • 😂

      @Josuperhero@Josuperhero Жыл бұрын
    • He just came back to leave a comment (: bankamin something, pineed comment

      @neverxnice3577@neverxnice3577 Жыл бұрын
    • He just came back to leave a comment (: benjamin something, pineed comment

      @neverxnice3577@neverxnice3577 Жыл бұрын
  • They look like a cool band that never existed...would love to see what they all look like now in 2021

    @Flipper1974nz@Flipper1974nz3 жыл бұрын
    • They’re all dead I think because of heroin.

      @frankb3467@frankb34673 жыл бұрын
    • And you know this how?

      @alienasmr8022@alienasmr80223 жыл бұрын
    • I wonder where they are now. I'd love to see them and hear about what they say when watching themselves in this video.

      @pandereta4@pandereta43 жыл бұрын
    • I might be wrong but I’m guessing they are either still into the gothic culture or have moved on from that perhaps

      @NubianGirl7@NubianGirl73 жыл бұрын
    • @@spontina Good thing theyre not from the U.K

      @fearmor2056@fearmor20563 жыл бұрын
  • It would be so incredibly cool if they could find these ppl and do a follow up interview to find out who they became and how much they changed/ stayed the same 40 yrs. Later.

    @RainbowBrite80@RainbowBrite80 Жыл бұрын
    • One of them - John (No. 3) has commented at the top of this thread. 🖤

      @221b-Maker-Street@221b-Maker-Street Жыл бұрын
  • One of the most underrated bands of the 80's!

    @Tokolos@Tokolos Жыл бұрын
    • what

      @sophiadowd7453@sophiadowd7453 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sophiadowd7453 Look at the four of them together lol

      @jedross2136@jedross2136 Жыл бұрын
    • 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

      @redwoodrebelgirl3010@redwoodrebelgirl3010 Жыл бұрын
  • John is the hero. The audience was laughing at him. By the end of his section they were all laughing with him. Top guy.

    @jacobread9650@jacobread96503 жыл бұрын
    • and now he works for Doctors Without Borders 👏

      @daimhinaubrey3194@daimhinaubrey31943 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/mZiwYbZtiWOCn5s/bejne.html

      @bpwonderkid@bpwonderkid3 жыл бұрын
    • Killarney Boy (who is probably bald now) had some good one liners but the Mod looks as if he's the most life experience of the lot of them. The first punk sits at home, the.second works in a shop, the third boy is really a nice middle class kid and the Mod is a guy who rides around the country and could dump your body in a ditch somewhere.

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
    • John is a legend, and quite right too! Probably the most excitement the show has seen.

      @cowpie2915@cowpie29153 жыл бұрын
    • @@anonb4632 Killiney, posh boy not Killarney, country boy.

      @54321Ripley@54321Ripley3 жыл бұрын
  • All I see in this interview is a group of polite, respectful and articulate kids who just wanted to express their personalities and tastes through their look. I don't care how many times it has been said in the history of mankind. I'll repeat it for the umpteenth time: never judge a book by its cover.

    @youreallygotmenow4855@youreallygotmenow48552 жыл бұрын
    • not like today :)

      @roberto2568@roberto2568 Жыл бұрын
    • I agree- I am touched by their tender modesty, shy heroes in a way, daring to be wild but very civilized, very well-mannered, really diving into the cold waters of life, they are beautiful.

      @MrHammerlein@MrHammerlein Жыл бұрын
    • Yup, exactly. Never judge the book by it's cover. Those respectful and articulated kids just a Cover. A Cover that doesn't represent the real book.

      @WeDoLoveU@WeDoLoveU Жыл бұрын
    • …per that era…a great one for me indeed.

      @plentinough7222@plentinough7222 Жыл бұрын
    • Now in 2022 these kids would be accepted by the broader population at least here in Los Angeles. We have a lot of unique people here from all over the world, across economic status, different races, orientation, modes of thinking, level of education, various religion, and it’s just the norm in this cosmopolitan city.

      @All_you_need_is_love2018@All_you_need_is_love2018 Жыл бұрын
  • I’m Irish, and I really enjoyed watching this. These people all seem so sound, i hope they are all still doing well today!

    @caranook@caranook Жыл бұрын
    • I was thinking exactly same, this is from 1983 and they are about 20, so now in year 2022 they are all something 60 years of age

      @mikakettunen7939@mikakettunen7939 Жыл бұрын
    • Me too. Least of all because they are over 60

      @billyb4790@billyb4790 Жыл бұрын
    • THEY WERE A MESS, AND THEY CREATED THE MESS OF TODAY CRAZY PEOPLE.

      @irisbaez1972@irisbaez1972 Жыл бұрын
    • @@irisbaez1972 You will never understand people or creativity as a whole -- Unarticulated negative comments are your go to, not understanding.

      @bangnuts6094@bangnuts6094 Жыл бұрын
    • They're probably all dead lol

      @PANZERFAUST90@PANZERFAUST90 Жыл бұрын
  • "they thought it was a phase where I was going through... so did I" 🤣 wonderful 😂

    @ArnoldVeeman@ArnoldVeeman Жыл бұрын
  • I love the third guy. He’s so into making the interviewer seem as incompetent as possible... he sees right through his condescending BS. A true inspiration

    @gabbyb9939@gabbyb99393 жыл бұрын
    • He's a bellend

      @54321Ripley@54321Ripley3 жыл бұрын
    • he's so sassy i can't hahah

      @vjtheowl6091@vjtheowl60913 жыл бұрын
    • I really love him ahahaha

      @simonemariani1450@simonemariani14503 жыл бұрын
    • @@54321Ripley and Joyce was a bellend aswell what’s your point

      @brendanmccabe8373@brendanmccabe83733 жыл бұрын
    • If you hear the beginning of the interview, he says he dresses "strangely". You can tell by the 3rd guy's reaction that he didn't like it or hear the interviewer say it the way he wrote about himself.

      @jakebriggs2292@jakebriggs22923 жыл бұрын
  • The cool thing about these 4 is that they’re all self aware and witty about who they are and how they’re perceived. They are simultaneously making an important statement by being different and then proving how judgemental people are when they get laughed at

    @whatsnews6790@whatsnews67903 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly!

      @Mowichbrown69@Mowichbrown693 жыл бұрын
    • I'm sure they passed some kind of BBC screening before they were given reign to speak freely

      @elisabethseaton6521@elisabethseaton65213 жыл бұрын
    • @@elisabethseaton6521 they're Irish on The Late Late show which is on RTE television.

      @karenhoey6082@karenhoey60823 жыл бұрын
    • Some of the smartest most creative people I knew in high school were just like these kids.

      @amiesparkle00@amiesparkle003 жыл бұрын
    • They just seem so chilled, relaxed and relatable.

      @GreasyBaconMan@GreasyBaconMan2 жыл бұрын
  • i salute to these young people who stood up for their thing even though they were basically ridiculed and treated as a freak show. you were pioneers.

    @scharfenbergillustration7019@scharfenbergillustration7019 Жыл бұрын
  • As a lifelong punk, this is so wholesome and I love it

    @andrewcrawford2807@andrewcrawford2807 Жыл бұрын
  • Nice decent people with good morals Its not how how you look Its whats on the inside

    @TheGazz74@TheGazz743 жыл бұрын
    • huzzah to that

      @starduck8014@starduck80143 жыл бұрын
    • Yes!!!

      @krisrhood2127@krisrhood21273 жыл бұрын
    • How in the world can you judge people's morals by what they say about themselves? Lol

      @kamikazitsunami@kamikazitsunami3 жыл бұрын
    • @User Name They're poking people now to invoke violence and a civil war. They create the left-right paradigm and the divide and conquer strategy to enslave mankind more, not bring about more freedom. And the masses take the bait every single time fighting against each other instead of their oppressors just like those with Stockholm Syndrome. That is what we really need to be thinking about.

      @kamikazitsunami@kamikazitsunami3 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t know if living off the dole and laughing about it is particularly moral 🤔 but whatevs

      @harmlesscreationsofthegree1248@harmlesscreationsofthegree12483 жыл бұрын
  • Would love to see a reunion on todays late late, experiences and insights since then

    @johnjordan3941@johnjordan39413 жыл бұрын
    • This needs to happen! Be class!

      @adrianenglish511@adrianenglish5113 жыл бұрын
    • That would be good cant lie...or how about the equivalent show with today's gangs...I think today's version would be a bit more tasty..few more weapons concealed on stage haha

      @jshaw4757@jshaw47573 жыл бұрын
    • I think this is John Fiddler: www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/working-abroad/seeing-young-friends-die-from-aids-i-wished-i-could-help-1.2897012

      @tattarrrrattat@tattarrrrattat3 жыл бұрын
    • @@tattarrrrattat Some man for one man that John.

      @Hic_Rhodus@Hic_Rhodus3 жыл бұрын
    • Just thought, i would like to see the punk from former toady, to see if he changed, like i did. Not from the thought, once a punk, ever punk, but from ideology (Yes, thats two different things) and from "punkish" appearance.

      @Sarimae23@Sarimae233 жыл бұрын
  • The first three of these people are the epitome of what I saw as an impressionable child and just knew I wanted to be like them. The look, the humour, the intelligence etc. I was 7 in 1983. I remember presenting myself to my conservative mother when I was 5 or 6 with my very long curly hair back combed into a huge heap on my head. As far as I was concerned I was just being like Kate Bush, Toyah or whoever, but my mum was NOT going to allow me on the shopping trip ‘looking like that’ 😂😂 So they just loved it when I realised Goth was my calling in my mid teens…but I was then, and am still now, the only Goth in the village and damn, I love it. It’s who I am. I also really enjoy confusing people who assume I’m going to be one very specific way just because of my outer appearance, who then discover that I am intelligent, gentle, community minded and extremely caring. As a fellow student said to me many years ago…you’re the loveliest person I know, but I’d be bloody terrified of spilling my pint on you if I didn’t know you 🤣

    @clairepruden4974@clairepruden4974 Жыл бұрын
    • I was the same way. I enjoyed blowing people’s minds by being the complete opposite of their stereotypes.

      @keirfarnum6811@keirfarnum6811 Жыл бұрын
    • Lol the whole “people assuming you’re going to be one specific way based on your outer appearance” is my favourite kind of way to joke with people

      @thinginground5179@thinginground5179 Жыл бұрын
  • There's nothing wrong with any of these kids. I think if anything, they shoud be admired for their strong character, convictions and individuality. It's a shame society to THIS DAY will still shun anyone who looks/speaks/thinks a bit differently to the 'norm'. Good on em.

    @andydixon2980@andydixon29803 жыл бұрын
    • My thoughts aswell

      @sheameade1013@sheameade10133 жыл бұрын
    • They're attention seeking and haven't been raised right, very simple

      @dimadmitrov2615@dimadmitrov26153 жыл бұрын
    • @@dimadmitrov2615 i bet you're super fun at parties

      @danielmarron3508@danielmarron35083 жыл бұрын
    • Here's the condundrum though. The very act of being different to ones own peers is typically what fuels a person to become so strong in character, conviction and individuality. By becoming accepted by wider society as a whole, the individual no longer needs to present a tough exterior, and is much more likely to mellow into the rest of the group anyway, unless they are just contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. In which case, they will always find a reason to pick at or make up differences with anyone they associate or don't associate with. There is also the fact that once a counter-culture becomes acknowledged and integrated into the mainstream, it is more likely to be adopted by newer generations on a much wider scale, which then merges it into the general social culture, which no longer represents the rebellious response it once stood for. Newer, more particular types of counter-culture then form in reaction to that, which leads to the ultra-sensitive internet groups we have today, that comprise of individuals who are so focused on trying to be unique within their already unique social circles, that they end up tearing each other down and feign to realise that they are all there for the same reasons as anyone who identifies with a group - for a place to belong, with familiar people that share a mutual respect for each other and look out for each other, in a world that has become quite confusing, disconnected and isolating. Ramble over. Cheers for reading.

      @tom7204@tom72043 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks.

      @DwightLivesMatter@DwightLivesMatter3 жыл бұрын
  • dude with the huge hair was CARRYING the show. I love his deadpan humour. what a legend.

    @friendlyneighbourhoodbisex4811@friendlyneighbourhoodbisex48113 жыл бұрын
    • He’s sweet.

      @ilovesammy3657@ilovesammy36573 жыл бұрын
    • "John Fiddler" -- this might be him now, if it's the same person. An article in the Irish Times interviews him where he says he was an art college student (he's enrolled in NCAD in this). Headed to New York in the 80s, and ended up a palliative care practitioner. Other articles describe him as being rebellious for a good cause, and lamenting the fact he had to witness many friends lost to the AIDS epidemic. He's about 60, now, which checks out with this John Fiddler being in his early 20s here.

      @gregtaillon4019@gregtaillon40192 жыл бұрын
    • @@gregtaillon4019 Thanks mate, he sounds like a really swell bloke, I love the internet sometimes.

      @friendlyneighbourhoodbisex4811@friendlyneighbourhoodbisex48112 жыл бұрын
    • @@gregtaillon4019 he for sure fought for the cause.

      @tommyv5866@tommyv58662 жыл бұрын
    • Every New Wave band consisted of guys like him who went to art school.

      @2degucitas@2degucitas2 жыл бұрын
  • Even to this day, there is a lot of misconception about punk culture and those who truly stick by it (older generation especially who grew up with these roots). These people I feel encompass the positivity of doing what you love,dressing as u like and listening to your philosophical idea of the world. Mad respect, never comform.

    @TokaixEX1@TokaixEX1 Жыл бұрын
  • 8:44 it was very nice of them to let a goose be part of the audience

    @nuberiffic@nuberiffic Жыл бұрын
    • LOLOLOLOLOLOL YOU ARE SO RIGHT 😂 that laugh did sound like a goose 😂😂😂😂😂

      @Brandi_Aguilar_Funny_Vlogs@Brandi_Aguilar_Funny_Vlogs Жыл бұрын
    • Excellent listening skills..i couldnt tell if it was a goose or a gander sitting in the front row..

      @sawtoothiandi@sawtoothiandi Жыл бұрын
  • This is a prime example not to judge someone solely by their appearance: they’re well spoken, intelligent and carry themselves well. People can learn a thing or two from these four.

    @lordofthefrenchfries9274@lordofthefrenchfries92743 жыл бұрын
    • Or their job or lack of.

      @badassdanthepowerman6438@badassdanthepowerman64383 жыл бұрын
    • @@badassdanthepowerman6438 Sorry that I ask, but did you have a job at their age? For example I'm their age now, and I'm studying (as well as the girl). My friend who didn't want to go to college is working part-time jobs and looking for a full job a year later... It isn't as easy to find a job when you're 20ish as it would seem. And back then, I think it would probably be even harder, not even considering the fact that most of the employers would refuse to employ them (maybe except the mod guy), even if they would want to work...

      @inventiveowl395@inventiveowl3953 жыл бұрын
    • @@inventiveowl395 I think you misunderstood what I was saying with that, the interviewer is constantly highlighting “unemployed” in a demeaning way like it has any weight on the conversation. I did have a job when I was their age though, but again that doesn’t matter or contribute to what I meant by my comment.

      @badassdanthepowerman6438@badassdanthepowerman64383 жыл бұрын
    • @@badassdanthepowerman6438 I see, you meant it as a continuation of ".. by their appearance or their job..." Not sleeping for long periods of time is taking it's toll on me... Good day sir. :)

      @inventiveowl395@inventiveowl3953 жыл бұрын
    • None of them have jobs though LOL. Leeches

      @greengoat5654@greengoat56542 жыл бұрын
  • was this a interview or a interrogation

    @dublinairportplanes@dublinairportplanes3 жыл бұрын
    • What's the difference? 😂

      @ruaoneill9050@ruaoneill90503 жыл бұрын
    • Both

      @sovietonion72@sovietonion723 жыл бұрын
    • @Miss Sarah StormInATeacup Phil Donahue in particular was a rude condescending self inflated prick!

      @mostevokish@mostevokish3 жыл бұрын
    • @Miss Sarah StormInATeacup this is why zappa never got interveiwed that much as his dry whit would pull em apart!!

      @thunderider1@thunderider13 жыл бұрын
    • @Miss Sarah N. of NZ. stfu

      @dandei545@dandei5453 жыл бұрын
  • 8:16 "A bit of foundation does you a world of good". Soooooo true.

    @jeitoots@jeitoots Жыл бұрын
  • John is killing his look damn I love his eye makeup

    @carlie.carlie@carlie.carlie Жыл бұрын
  • Why is no one talking about the girl? Her voice is so calming and she is so polite.

    @elmejormes@elmejormes3 жыл бұрын
    • She seems lovely. Teens back then weren’t angels but jeez they’re better than the snowflakes now who get offended and rude about anything!!

      @ilovesammy3657@ilovesammy36573 жыл бұрын
    • Probably because no one can understand what the fuck she's saying

      @Otra_Chica_de_Internet@Otra_Chica_de_Internet3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ilovesammy3657 imagine using the word snowflake unironically lmao you sound like a ben shapiro stan

      @Otra_Chica_de_Internet@Otra_Chica_de_Internet3 жыл бұрын
    • Watching her eyes she looks high. Maybe that’s why she’s calm and polite.

      @Blessed-2-b-a-Hembree@Blessed-2-b-a-Hembree3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Blessed-2-b-a-Hembree hahaha maybe but I mean shes still polite

      @elmejormes@elmejormes3 жыл бұрын
  • The PUNK dude looks like tv star, AMAZING

    @majdapetrovic8749@majdapetrovic87493 жыл бұрын
    • Robert Pattinson or something?

      @frankb3467@frankb34673 жыл бұрын
    • @@frankb3467 you know what?better than Robert P

      @majdapetrovic8749@majdapetrovic87493 жыл бұрын
    • @@frankb3467 I was thinking the same.

      @zilchnilton@zilchnilton3 жыл бұрын
    • @Brit Sehnsucht he looks like hes a music star and why would that be rude?!and i didnt compare him with Robert sorry.......

      @majdapetrovic8749@majdapetrovic87493 жыл бұрын
    • Ikr🔥

      @makinoshan2666@makinoshan26663 жыл бұрын
  • They all seem so easy-going and accepting. I love how John didn't really want to Identify as anything, he was 'just a normal person'. We need more of those nowadays.

    @rkgrkg@rkgrkg Жыл бұрын
  • How iconic, they created a trend and influence fashion nowdays 🤗

    @melanietorres1488@melanietorres1488 Жыл бұрын
  • The level of cool on that stage is incredible

    @teejayscottzilla6804@teejayscottzilla68043 жыл бұрын
    • Also unemployment benefits lol

      @Mishkafofer@Mishkafofer3 жыл бұрын
    • I dont know though , a bunch of edgy youngsters, seems kind of annoying...

      @dudefrombelgium@dudefrombelgium2 жыл бұрын
    • @@dudefrombelgium they don’t seem annoying. They seem pretty chill

      @dayanaram925@dayanaram9252 жыл бұрын
    • @@Mishkafofer how is this getting likes? They are teenagers

      @Adam-tt5hn@Adam-tt5hn2 жыл бұрын
    • Cool! Haha! Yeah I suppose you might think that. They look like idiot children who refuse to grow up but I guess that might look cool to some.

      @sacredgeometry@sacredgeometry2 жыл бұрын
  • Irish education must be pretty good as it produced these thoughtful, articulate young people.

    @sandraobrien8705@sandraobrien87053 жыл бұрын
    • nah at this time Irish education was a Catholic hellscape

      @Owen-hd3oq@Owen-hd3oq2 жыл бұрын
    • It was a very good education system then. One of the best.

      @electricdreams9446@electricdreams94462 жыл бұрын
    • @@Owen-hd3oq Which produced thoughtful, articulate young people.

      @spqrtejano8026@spqrtejano80262 жыл бұрын
    • It actually was pretty good on the fundamentals. The RCC ran most of it and they saw it as a source of new recruits so they were motivated to keep the parents happy. You almost couldn't get away from religious indoctrination while availing yourself of this cheap, good quality basic education.

      @DavidByrden1@DavidByrden12 жыл бұрын
    • someone is very quick and perhaps desperate to defend the system. Perhaps these youngsters here were intelligent and critical thinking because of their own merits and not because of where they went to school. I do not know, I never met them and did not look up their backgrounds.

      @karlwschipul5079@karlwschipul50792 жыл бұрын
  • The way this interview aged is something absolutely beautiful, as these young men are.

    @inwerp@inwerp Жыл бұрын
  • I was a punk/goth in the mid 80s . The clubs I went to in southern England hardly ever had any problems. It was the “squares” as I called them, that had fighting in their clubs. The only fighting I ever saw punks involved with was when “squares” picked on them for the way they looked.

    @Bexks@Bexks Жыл бұрын
  • "They thought it was a phase I was going through, and well, so did I, but" I'm in love 😂

    @Emma-mk6uc@Emma-mk6uc2 жыл бұрын
    • I have bad news…

      @aarondavis9438@aarondavis9438 Жыл бұрын
    • It must be Friday then

      @odysseasv7734@odysseasv7734 Жыл бұрын
  • Would be proud to call any of them my kids

    @adriancotter7368@adriancotter73683 жыл бұрын
    • Your actual kids I presume have been giving you a lot of trouble then

      @sidmallya7421@sidmallya74213 жыл бұрын
    • @@sidmallya7421 what draws you to that conclusion? Lmao

      @TehDawg@TehDawg3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TehDawg common psychology. I didn't mean to insult the man

      @sidmallya7421@sidmallya74213 жыл бұрын
    • @@sidmallya7421 In what way is that common psychology? Just curious

      @TehDawg@TehDawg3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TehDawg are you his child?

      @sidmallya7421@sidmallya74213 жыл бұрын
  • The Mod kid was unbelievably intense!

    @pretendhuman@pretendhuman Жыл бұрын
  • The fact that Edward de Bono just sort of pops up toward the end really adds an extra surreal dimension

    @hansvalen@hansvalen Жыл бұрын
  • “There are various types of gangs operating in Ireland “ 😂 😂

    @weegreeneyes3196@weegreeneyes31963 жыл бұрын
    • No mention of drug-dealing paramilitaries, of course...

      @mbrady2329@mbrady23293 жыл бұрын
    • @@mbrady2329 Turncoat brady

      @proinseasokiellig4388@proinseasokiellig43883 жыл бұрын
    • @@proinseasokiellig4388, how the hell am I a turncoat?! Don't try to drag me into any sectarian bollocks!

      @mbrady2329@mbrady23293 жыл бұрын
    • @@mbrady2329 Jesus christ live in your heads rent free

      @shane6517@shane65173 жыл бұрын
    • There were various types of gangs in Ireland...

      @dudefrombelgium@dudefrombelgium2 жыл бұрын
  • “How long do you think you can keep up being a punk?” TIL DEATH he says. 😍

    @gogogoatgirl@gogogoatgirl3 жыл бұрын
    • If you used to be a punk, well, you never were! Punk for life :)

      @psypunk@psypunk3 жыл бұрын
    • Best answer ever 💀 🖤🖤🖤

      @Alpha-Andromeda@Alpha-Andromeda3 жыл бұрын
    • @@psypunk 100%.

      @AetherIdol@AetherIdol3 жыл бұрын
    • "Tell Dett". He says

      @pascualguajardo204@pascualguajardo2043 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah which means he’s already dead

      @Mr.Obongo@Mr.Obongo3 жыл бұрын
  • These kids are charming young people. You can’t judge a person by how they look.

    @Will_Notcomply365@Will_Notcomply365 Жыл бұрын
  • Being a young person in the US 83, I remember these fashions as I grew into the metal world. What I love about this segment is that the interviewer doesn't come across as judgmental or condescending.

    @melance@melance Жыл бұрын
  • The Clash, Siouxie and the Banshees, Split Enz vs Flock of Seagulls, The Jam. There you have it.

    @terrythekittieful@terrythekittieful3 жыл бұрын
    • The cure and cocteau twins culmination with the second one

      @clownmoshpit2778@clownmoshpit27782 жыл бұрын
    • The Cure and Sex Pistols are in there somewhere🤪

      @SuperBoomshack@SuperBoomshack2 жыл бұрын
    • whoa, seizure's no joke.

      @nighlektolmn5390@nighlektolmn53902 жыл бұрын
    • The Jam was so great. That is all.

      @ShadowWizard123@ShadowWizard1232 жыл бұрын
    • @@ShadowWizard123 I dare you to listen to Town Called Malice and not dance😂

      @SuperBoomshack@SuperBoomshack2 жыл бұрын
  • You can tell the third guy praises Robert Smith

    @aedenserano3439@aedenserano34393 жыл бұрын
    • Wrong way round..

      @proinseasokiellig4388@proinseasokiellig43883 жыл бұрын
    • @@proinseasokiellig4388 lol. Jokes aside he's def a Robert Smith fan. Remember may in the early '80s.

      @jamesmason8436@jamesmason84363 жыл бұрын
    • As all people should

      @idfkwgo@idfkwgo3 жыл бұрын
    • Robert Smith had short hair until about 2 years after this, all the early Cure stuff and his other early 80's band, The Glove, his hair was short cropped, he only adopted his 'look' in about 85/86.

      @spudlington@spudlington2 жыл бұрын
    • @@spudlington his personality and the way he carries himself is what I was referring to

      @aedenserano3439@aedenserano34392 жыл бұрын
  • Calm, rational answers. No screeching or blaming everyone else. No crying or having emotional breakdowns and basically holding themselves with dignity. More than can be said for the alphabet movement nowadays 🙄

    @sallyholtz4590@sallyholtz4590 Жыл бұрын
    • @kyfaydfsoab Pardon? I've looked like this my entire life. Sorry if that triggers you. Daily life must be incredibly difficult for you to get through. Truly sad.

      @sallyholtz4590@sallyholtz4590 Жыл бұрын
    • @kyfaydfsoab troll

      @t45tt4tr@t45tt4tr Жыл бұрын
  • What a wonderful bunch of young adults.

    @spero1966@spero1966 Жыл бұрын
  • The third one is absolutely fantastic and has a great sense of humour for being put on the spot like that. He'd make an interesting friend :)

    @earthtear9586@earthtear95863 жыл бұрын
    • I just read in a previous comments that’s he’s a nurse in America..and there’s a link to a video of him..

      @iloveanimals6361@iloveanimals63613 жыл бұрын
    • @@iloveanimals6361 where is that link I’m really curious to see that

      @TheVioletBunny@TheVioletBunny3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheVioletBunny I think this is it 😊 kzhead.info/sun/mZiwYbZtiWOCn5s/bejne.html

      @iloveanimals6361@iloveanimals63613 жыл бұрын
    • @@iloveanimals6361 thanks !

      @TheVioletBunny@TheVioletBunny3 жыл бұрын
    • i can't stand him tbh

      @viola308@viola3082 жыл бұрын
  • This is a very old argument I imagine it dates back to pre history. I still think of ''the nasty grown ups'' and then realize I'm 78.

    @2011littlejohn1@2011littlejohn13 жыл бұрын
    • @CMD I'm in 4 rock bands so I think I'm safe. :)

      @2011littlejohn1@2011littlejohn12 жыл бұрын
    • I'm 36 and am 100% behind these guys! Honestly, they have no animosity against anyone, and are just doing what they want. As long as they aren't hurting anyone else, and are making their own living (which is a problem I have with one of them), whatever!

      @sonicsabbath@sonicsabbath2 жыл бұрын
  • Great interview. Anyone who's not Irish probably doesn't realise that the Late Late Show was the must see TV show for most of Ireland during the 70s and 80s, basically our Tonight Show. The presenter, Gay Byrne, had his critics at times but I think everyone comes out with credit from this. Thanks for the upload 👍

    @Muesli711@Muesli711 Жыл бұрын
  • Love to see an interview with them all now at nearing 60. Would be Interesting to see how they have changed. I was 20 back in 83 too but by then I had changed from a punk to a metal head.

    @rickmoore4482@rickmoore4482 Жыл бұрын
  • Patronising host , great answers from the four sitting there . Different times , no internet just your mates and the streets ..

    @matkamoon@matkamoon3 жыл бұрын
    • Good point :)

      @kelloscully9632@kelloscully96323 жыл бұрын
    • Gay Byrne wasn't patronizing.

      @Horizon344@Horizon3443 жыл бұрын
    • @@Horizon344 Yea he was man was a prick

      @darraghmcdaddy@darraghmcdaddy3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Horizon344 Gay Byrne was very patronising and smug towards many guests. The standout guest to me was Tom Waits.

      @John-ro1iv@John-ro1iv3 жыл бұрын
    • I know yeah imagine being the first guy and sitting at home all day watching 3 channels of TV with no internet lol

      @JM-hc1pf@JM-hc1pf3 жыл бұрын
  • I saw a punk once in a bus recently. A young man probably 20-22 years old. He was so handsome. He looked so cool. Like he was genuinely so nice to look at. And i couldn't be farther from their subculture but among all the cultures punks just hit different. They're also seem very nice for some reason despite looking intimidating

    @EughhBrothereughh@EughhBrothereughh11 ай бұрын
  • It is so weird to hear the interviewer call all these subcultures "gangs" and keep pestering them about questions of drugs, law enforcement, and dress. For me, Punk feels like such a normal facet of our culture nowadays, and it's hard to remember that they had to claw their way through a society that practically criminalized them for being different.

    @FlamingGuitar123@FlamingGuitar1233 жыл бұрын
    • I remember one time I was stopped by police saying me my friends was in gangs it was so much bullshit

      @leecrawford9881@leecrawford98812 жыл бұрын
    • I thought the interviewer did a better job at questioning these individuals. I've seen interviews in the 80s where icons such as Marilyn Manson were being questioned way more rudely. This interviewer in my opinion was very civil. He just wanted to seek the truth about the punk and goth stereotypes and he listened to everything they had to say

      @Kj-mo5kd@Kj-mo5kd2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Kj-mo5kd Marilyn Manson was 90s

      @rowanmelton7643@rowanmelton76432 жыл бұрын
    • Its not normal where i come from

      @torivarnor@torivarnor2 жыл бұрын
    • Ahh, yes, now look how being a normal person who advocates for liberty rather than authoritarian dictates are now being treated. We actually get treated worse than punks ever were. I know, I was a punk rocker back then, and fight for liberty today. Now that I think about it not much has changed.

      @smelltheglove2038@smelltheglove20382 жыл бұрын
  • The third guy's sense of humor and wit is awesome. So intelligent. My kinda humor.

    @Melmaegwen@Melmaegwen Жыл бұрын
  • "[My parents] thought it was a phase... So did I. Something happened... but I'm still growing so, I'm only young..." I felt that so hard lmaooo

    @dianef617@dianef617 Жыл бұрын
  • The picture of all 4 of them sitting like total kings & queen is one of the most legendary and iconic things I've ever seen

    @dasdestomic1636@dasdestomic16362 жыл бұрын
    • um not really

      @PANZERFAUST90@PANZERFAUST90 Жыл бұрын
    • @@PANZERFAUST90 Correct. They were on the Dole or barely employed. Think of all the effort spent on looks. They're guilty of LOOKISM!

      @busterbiloxi3833@busterbiloxi3833 Жыл бұрын
    • @@busterbiloxi3833 lol

      @PANZERFAUST90@PANZERFAUST90 Жыл бұрын
  • I started as a gothic in 1984 at the age of 12 in former west germany. Than I changed to be a punk at about 18 (we had friends from all kind of subculture in our small 65.000 pl. city anyway, and also were listening to punk). I`m still a punk at the age of 49 now, and I organized open air punk festivals in Berlin and a lot of concerts all over germany over the years (always D.I.Y.). It was the best thing of my life.

    @zongodurruti7984@zongodurruti79843 жыл бұрын
    • oh our newstarted band would love to play in germany someday !

      @DeafMatch@DeafMatch Жыл бұрын
    • I wish to be in a punk,concert,in germanyyyy

      @ThePico90@ThePico90 Жыл бұрын
    • Did you have a chance to meet Nick Cave? West Berlin at 1984 is my fist time travel destination! You are so lucky to live in gold years of gothic/punk music!

      @alinea8815@alinea8815 Жыл бұрын
    • @@alinea8815 No, I did not meet him in Berlin. I was living in West Germany at the time.

      @zongodurruti7984@zongodurruti7984 Жыл бұрын
    • My friends were Goth before Goth was a thing in the US that is.

      @Kat.Evangeline@Kat.Evangeline Жыл бұрын
  • Great kids.

    @elle-izalogan9372@elle-izalogan9372 Жыл бұрын
    • @kyfaydfsoab I agree. Art, like music (no matter if lyrics or music videos), movies, novels,..., as well as the underground scenes, are (still) provocative and "shocking" to the older and "decent" people, but it has always been like that. But everyday fashion is uniform, boring and reserved, and kids are cruel to the ones standing out.

      @elle-izalogan9372@elle-izalogan9372 Жыл бұрын
  • I’m an 80s kid myself, dressed weird & lived in the middle of nowhere. I think it’s funny how my daughter thought that alternative style of dress was NEW when she was a teen 8-12 years ago. I showed her this video & said ‘…and you thought it was new?’ 😂 Her face….🤣🤣🤣 the moment she finally saw it full circle. Loved it!!

    @devodootie@devodootie Жыл бұрын
    • It's so fun what young people sometimes believe was fashion before they were born. Like, for mainstream, they have heard that people wore gym clothes, (yes, cotton jogging suits were fashion in the mid-eighties) and that they wore like, shiny leggings and tricots ... so they imagine people walking around in aerobic costumes as their everyday clothes. They do not imagine that there would be not one, but a *group* of Boy George look-alike girls at any High School ( "Gymnasium", where I come from) then. And they don't know about wearing granddad's shirts or painting rainbows (symbolising Greenpeace!) on your white shoes.

      @cnj67@cnj67 Жыл бұрын
  • John Fiddler went on to be a nurse in New York who worked with victims of 9/11. Bless all young folk who rebel against the system, express themselves yet still grow into functioning members of society. I imagine Gay Byrne would look back at this and be embarrassed to be honest.

    @iainohanlon2262@iainohanlon22623 жыл бұрын
    • I bet he's bald now.

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
    • @@anonb4632 HE IS IWHEIEHSIFHEI

      @jadefranco3210@jadefranco32103 жыл бұрын
    • He nursed people through the Aids crisis and now he works for Doctors Without Borders, nothing but respect. Shows what that Ireland lost by pushing alternative and lgbt+ people out of the country

      @arianrhodhyde7482@arianrhodhyde74823 жыл бұрын
    • @@arianrhodhyde7482 He wasn't a nurse when he left. He was an art student at the time. He went to New York which was one of the places earliest affected by AIDS in a big way, and became a nurse because of that. If he had stayed in Ireland he would have probably either lived off his parents or the dole while complaining no one was buying his paintings. (To be fair, I've no idea what his art is like.) So in that sense, the US made him.

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
    • @@anonb4632 i don't think someone spontaneously becomes a better person by living through the Aids crisis, which affected people in Ireland too god knows and would have affected more if so many of our youth hadn't left the country. plenty of people spent the 80s making bad art or partying even when people around them were dropping like flies.

      @arianrhodhyde7482@arianrhodhyde74823 жыл бұрын
  • These people are the real ones, the originators of it all (well punk dates back to the 70's) no posing, no social media, no pleasing anyone for likes. Completely authentic.

    @orbital_ex@orbital_ex2 жыл бұрын
    • that’s what I envy about living back in the old days before the 2000s specifically social media 😂

      @B4NDllKOOT_@B4NDllKOOT_ Жыл бұрын
    • Compare these individuals with the woke generation who do as they are told. Today it's the opposite of rebellion. Wokers all look the same. These guys are eloquent and don't repeat the narrative

      @talesfromthecrypto1@talesfromthecrypto1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@talesfromthecrypto1 the rebellion became mainstream thinking. Now there's a "rebellion" going the other way. If it wasn't for rebels like this, there wouldn't be a "woke" generation, everyone would still be dreary, hateful, conservative religious nutjobs. They were rebelling against conservatism. I'm not saying that people haven't gone too far left or aren't way too sensitive these days, but these kids were that generation's "woke".

      @nightcritterz@nightcritterz Жыл бұрын
    • they're on TV lol

      @JaredAfrica@JaredAfrica Жыл бұрын
    • You're an imbecile!

      @MAXDEVVING@MAXDEVVING Жыл бұрын
  • The need to always mention how many siblings people have cracks me up. Reminds me of many conversations I had in Ireland.

    @hannekekoolen8243@hannekekoolen8243 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant. Love these old archives. Thanks

    @michaeloruaidh3605@michaeloruaidh3605 Жыл бұрын
  • They are all very mature and wise for their age. Irish people are often great speakers and conversationalists .

    @johnnieireland2057@johnnieireland20572 жыл бұрын
    • 🇨🇮💖👍, lovely golden people 🏅

      @kevinruddy448@kevinruddy4482 жыл бұрын
    • 🇮🇪☘💕

      @LBaker805@LBaker805 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes the Irish tongue is very famous and only plays second fiddle to the Irish liver.

      @robertarisz8464@robertarisz8464 Жыл бұрын
  • The punk guy is so well spoken and I love how he carries himself wow

    @elmejormes@elmejormes3 жыл бұрын
  • This is what nowadays is missing, society's struggles at the moment and time, getting airtime to talk about it and the reasons behind it, and what's next, I miss shows like this

    @campbell3711@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын
  • I love this interview. Everybody is calm, respectfull for another person, good behaviouring. It is lovely.

    @ukaszblok479@ukaszblok47919 күн бұрын
  • “Do all Mods ride Vespas?” Not if they can get a Lambretta.

    @tracik1277@tracik12773 жыл бұрын
    • I hung out with a great gal who rode a Vespa who made the mistake of telling me she had a boyfriend but not not telling me she didn't until it was too late.

      @KevinCrosbySeattle@KevinCrosbySeattle3 жыл бұрын
  • There's an Irish times article online about John Fiddler. He's now living in america as a palliative carer. Looks a lot different too. Seems a good dude!

    @Goono123@Goono1233 жыл бұрын
    • Unfortunate sirname, though!

      @themaggattack@themaggattack3 жыл бұрын
    • @@themaggattack Lol, at least it's not "Diddler".

      @DwightLivesMatter@DwightLivesMatter3 жыл бұрын
    • @@themaggattack excuse you, my best friend is a fiddler, and a damn good one too!

      @dianeaishamonday9125@dianeaishamonday91253 жыл бұрын
  • 💗John Fiddler looks amazing! It's 2023 & he'd fit in almost anywhere

    @Luna.3.3.3@Luna.3.3.3 Жыл бұрын
  • I loved this video. I was part of the scene in my town in Canada. I was the only guy wearing Ralph Lauren when my friends were mods, punks, and new romantics. We all hung out at the same bar because that was the only place that wouldn't judge us. Ya, I was the preppy guy, and no one judged me. We were all into the same music, and we just had fun together. I have stayed in touch with some of the old gang. A few are well-known actors and musicians in Canada. Everyone went their own way, but we all look back at those years as the ones that made us who we are today.

    @BeingJapan@BeingJapan Жыл бұрын
    • Bachman-Turner-Overdrive?

      @busterbiloxi3833@busterbiloxi3833 Жыл бұрын
  • The third guy is really funny and smart😜 at first they laughed at him and he looked a bit upset, but then everyone laughed WITH him! 😜🔥I loved that he wouldn't call himself anything!

    @agustinamansur5665@agustinamansur56653 жыл бұрын
    • Third guy is just 'gay'.

      @bonniemagpie5166@bonniemagpie51662 жыл бұрын
    • @@bonniemagpie5166How

      @cacamas@cacamas2 жыл бұрын
    • @@bonniemagpie5166 owt wrong with that, bonnie?

      @timc6669@timc6669 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bonniemagpie5166 and you are a magpie. A nasty bird. I’m sure his makeup tops yours.

      @atis9061@atis9061 Жыл бұрын
    • He looks like a clown.

      @ShezmuOperative@ShezmuOperative Жыл бұрын
  • John is iconic, he's just living his best life

    @charlottepiper7068@charlottepiper70683 жыл бұрын
  • They all look exceptional and held themselves so well. The first pair especially encompassed iconic the punk look

    @anyonesmind@anyonesmind Жыл бұрын
  • Great and fair interviews with gentle people indeed. I'd love to see a where-are-they-now followup!

    @CrookedSkew@CrookedSkew2 жыл бұрын
  • obsessed with the third lad with the massive hair... love to know where hes at now

    @user-dq6sg3tj3n@user-dq6sg3tj3n3 жыл бұрын
    • Just read an interview with him in the Irish time’s. John fiddler is his name. He moved to New York and became a nurse

      @deannab7224@deannab72243 жыл бұрын
    • @@deannab7224 oh wow! cheers

      @user-dq6sg3tj3n@user-dq6sg3tj3n3 жыл бұрын
    • Bald and in one of the professions.

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
    • There's a great interview with him from 2016. Massive respect to him

      @soul5839@soul58393 жыл бұрын
    • @@soul5839 He's a nurse which is a good thing, but he does come across as bit of a chancer. I think even from this clip it's obvious he's the middle class kid, especially next to the Mod from Fatima Mansions.

      @anonb4632@anonb46323 жыл бұрын
  • I love the third guy so much. He’s adorable and delightful. I wonder who he turned out to be.

    @danigolightly799@danigolightly7993 жыл бұрын
    • Turned out to be a Nurse in the USA actually, apparently helped people after 9/11

      @isetta4083@isetta40833 жыл бұрын
    • Works for Medicine Sans Frontiers!! ❤ kzhead.info/sun/mZiwYbZtiWOCn5s/bejne.html

      @RachaelClag@RachaelClag2 жыл бұрын
    • Same!

      @Duda60s@Duda60s2 жыл бұрын
    • he’s a nurse in NYC and has a husband :)

      @animejesus8940@animejesus89402 жыл бұрын
  • Super patronizing questions

    @paulwade1405@paulwade1405 Жыл бұрын
  • The third guy is an unassuming comical genius...🙌🙌

    @markfranklin9141@markfranklin9141 Жыл бұрын
  • The third guy saw through the interviewers bullshit & had a great sense of Humor what an icon

    @katana9647@katana96473 жыл бұрын
  • If David Bowie was there would he be subjected to this?

    @racheladkins6060@racheladkins60603 жыл бұрын
    • Well said.

      @maxflight777@maxflight7773 жыл бұрын
    • If you look at early bowie interviews he was treated quite poorly by interviewers.

      @beepboop9464@beepboop94643 жыл бұрын
    • Yes

      @chrispaws9294@chrispaws92943 жыл бұрын
    • Yes. Initially he was indeed treated poorly. But....as they say "Success has many fathers, Failure is a bastard".

      @cookies.358@cookies.3583 жыл бұрын
    • As a 14 year old mod in Bradford in 1983, the thing I remember was that there was a wide variety of youth cultures . Mods skins punks metalheads scooter boys casuals etc. In my experience, the non mainstream kids stuck together, so there were some pubs and clubs where it didn't matter what you were, just as long as you didn't have a pink pringle and farahs and went around kicking in weirdos and rival football fans. I did deserve a kicking though, for my fashion crimes mainly.

      @chrispaws9294@chrispaws92943 жыл бұрын
  • Haha, I remember this back in the day. My brother was into the punk scene, but he wasn't extreme looking, like these kids. He'd just put on some eyeliner only when he went to punk clubs abt 2 or 3 times a month. I remember that mods vs rockers thing too. The Who, Pete Townshend, wrote a lot abt it in their songs, specifically the Quadrophenia album. This brought back a whole bunch of fun memories. Lmao. Thank you so much for uploading this. It was really fun to watch.

    @RulyaBaruchHashemMorrigan7@RulyaBaruchHashemMorrigan7 Жыл бұрын
  • These guys are awesome! Hilarious and so much individual character.

    @onelove9308@onelove9308 Жыл бұрын
  • Theyre all so well behaved, quiet and nice.

    @Vixinaful@Vixinaful3 жыл бұрын
  • I love seeing people who are their own characters and not following a trend that ends up costing parents a massive amount of money every year , absolutely lovely kids I'm sure they changed the public's mind not to judge kids

    @marykelly9698@marykelly96983 жыл бұрын
    • @Tom Walsh true this is just our authoritarian gorvemeant.But I would still not do this edgy shit.

      @o-o2399@o-o23993 жыл бұрын
    • Characters.. Like actors 🤔.. This was just another of the many paths created by the controllers of this world..

      @quickdrawmcgrathdarts6770@quickdrawmcgrathdarts67703 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! :)

      @DwightLivesMatter@DwightLivesMatter3 жыл бұрын
    • I must say that you have a nice and interesting profile. Hope we can be friends

      @robinsmith4095@robinsmith40953 жыл бұрын
  • Lordy. If that first guy - Danika? - still around in single, please come visit me in the US. You were, then, everything I hoped for at that age!

    @nobletreebird@nobletreebird Жыл бұрын
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