John Pilger - Conversations With a Working Man - World in Action (1971)
2011 ж. 9 Қыр.
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1971. This is a film about working people and one working man - Jack Walker. Jack represents the silent core of this country - those millions of average Britons who feel they have no voice and have little power to control their way of life.
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Hi everyone, my name is Andrew and I am the grandson-in-law of Jack Walker. As some people in the comments have pointed out Jack did pass in 1997 from a heart attack, long before I ever could have met him. Audrey remained in their home until her health began to fail 2018/19 when she moved to more sheltered accommodation, before ultimately passing in January 2022. Beverley herself married a man called Tom, an electrician from Gravesend in Kent, who was up in Shipley for work and never went back! She struggled with her own health and ultimately passed in 2012, I also never had a chance to meet her, but she was also a wonderful, working-class, union woman herself by every account. The family that remain all still live in Shipley/Baildon, my brother-in-law lives in Jack and Audrey's house now, we were able to keep it in the family!
Hi Andrew. Thank you for filling in the blanks to some of the questions I had been wanting answers to. Pity to hear Beverly passing away at such a youngish age..she must have only been in her fifties. Do you know if she had any children of her own?
Thanks for the info
Hey mate, thanks for the write up. I hope Jack's descendants and yourself went on to prosper, that was a hard job he had. Those chemical fumes looked a bit nasty, if it were today health and safety would have been all over it. Bit shocked about Beverly dying a whole decade back, she wasn't much older than me 😮
Thank you your grandfather told the truth my dad was a herdsman. Like your grandfather hard working for a pittance. Modern politicians of all colours and alot of young politically motivated university types now mock people like this. Listen and learn.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. Even now I’ll have another look at this episode to remind me about what matters in life. Poor Audrey, lost Jack as a relatively young man and her daughter too.
My mum, a grafter all her life. Never unemployed, and raised three kids and ran a house. Kind, considerate, law abiding. Dead at 64, a year before her work and state pension kicked in. Live your life folks, enjoy it whilst you can.
Sad to hear that, and you are 100 percent right
Exactly the same situation (3 kids even) but she passed a month after retirement age of 66. DWP sent condolences and said they'd take back the two extra months they paid. Rip to your mum.
The most poignant thing I've read in a while.
God bless your late mum Sir.
Very sad 😢
This should be shown in schools. This man, and his family, is an example to us all. Why families like the Kardashians are celebrated instead of the likes of this family is well and truly beyond me!
how right you are JJ. its a sad indictment to todays society that such garbage is even given a single story let alone be as popular, rich and talentless as they are. I often wonder if jack and his wife are still alive to see such a debacle.. the world has gone mad and I cannot see the situation taking a turn for the better.
Great example of what.? Doing something you despise working for a pittance. The Working class are forced, or basically told do crap jobs you will achieve nothing. That's utter and complete garbage.
@@Rivelino824 it's a great example of the work ethic of previous generations. Work ethic has been eroded over the years. I agree that he should have been rewarded more for his work, but that's a separate issue.
@@JJ-zg1hh I'm not degrading the man's work ethic, or dedication. But if you want to motivate, and inspire people of a certain background show them this. Also I worked in a factory, and building sites up to the age 21. Then I realised I'm going to get nowhere with the status quo. Ive managed to work my way up to having three food businesses. Also like to add I'm thick as a brick so if I'm able to achieve anyone can.
@@Rivelino824 fair comment. Most people won't have the courage to set up a business though and will put their trust into loyalty with their employer. I just admire the man in the video for the way he conducts himself in the face of all the hardshipsthrown at him. My fear is that the current generations (including my own) think that life will be handed to them on a plate - if they could see what this guy went through they may have a change of mindset.
The Working class were shat on then and are still are shat on now. Jack still stands for all them hard working folk that will always be kept down RIP Jack.
They keep themselves down, God knows why. Karl Marx never did a real days work in his life, he just wanted to make some money from writing his stupid book.
Trouble is too many people vote against their own best interests, I'm sure in 1971 people like Jack knew the tories aren't for the working classes
just read John Pilger has died aged 84. bless his soul, a consummate professional . RIP.
Wish we had more true journalists like John Pilger
@@nemo7550 Have you seen his film about the chagos islands .. it’s called “Stealing A Nation “ ? It’s very sad .. but tells us a lot about evil .
As a young man I was very conservative and we hated Pilger and the light he shed on injustice. I feel very different now. A magnificent crusader for truth and justice.
@@nemo7550 Absolutely, John Pilger was a legend. He went to war zones as well Vietnam etc. He was a proper journalist and sought out & told the truth
An amazing man
Not only this man should be celebrated, but also the late great John Pilger. A real journalist….. probably the last.
What a cracking documentary. Real Brits. When people today ask what British culture is, they should be referred to this programme. Many, many families across the UK still live, speak, think, dream and act like this family. Salt of the earth.
This man ! The backbone that built Britain 🇬🇧
Well said
Now, we’ve sold it all off.
@@earlbee3196To the poxy Russians.
@@earlbee3196 As Fred Dibnah said, "we couldn't make a bean can now".
@@sandgrownun66 so sad. 70% of what I live with in my flat is made in great Britain, I just always brought British and looked after it.
This program should be re shown on mainstream TV at peak time instead of the usual bile they keep pumping out . RIP Mr Walker
Programme
@@sandgrownun66You forget to capitalise 'God' several comments back. Don't thank me. You're welcome :)
Well said Sir, I agree with you.
Unfortunately those with the power to do that find native working class history to be boring. One of the chats how hosts was asked to go on Who Do You Think You Are but after they looked into his family which consists of a long line of miners they decided not to start filming.
@@Vroomfondle1066 Firstly, what do you mean by, "several comments back"? There was were no comments in this thread, except yours. How could anyone know, to which other thread's comments you're referring to? Secondly, congratulations, on picking up on my intentional non-capitalization of the the word "god", which is also "dog", spelt backwards. Rather than tell you, can you guess why I would do such a thing?
50 years later and nothing has changed. The little guy still getting shafted by the "elite."
How far back have we slipped under tory rule ?
the uk has been going backwards for a while, it’ll be workhouse time again soon
Actually it has: they still deal with all this, but the government floods their areas with immigrants, replacing them in their communities then, if they complain, they get called a bunch of gammons by the posh middle class and mocked.
We’re not a Christian democracy anymore
At least Jack could afford a house.
I have so much respect for these people, they are and always will be the salt of the earth
Superb documentary. It's quite moving to think all this chap wanted was a gardening shop, not only to sell gardening things, but to talk to people.
Watching this in 2024 and thinking how privileged we really are nowadays.
We seem to now have the same problem now where ordinary people are getting poorer and are not listened to.
There are some, today, who will tell you how easy the previous generations had it.
@@Automedon2Easy, no. Substantially cheaper and more homogeneous, yes.
nah, Still some pretty rough jobs out there. Jack could afford a house, holiday etc- which is more than some can expect these days
There's people in exactly the same position and even worse today - I've met them, I'm probably one of them.
I can't believe he died just 26 years after this. What a man. A proper, decent working man.
3:45 25 yrs to go HE WORKED ALL HIS LIFE AND BARELY GOT TO ENJOY HIS PENSION
@@banksterkid5930exactly. It makes all the praise of hard work seem crass
@@banksterkid5930it's designed that way. I'm 57 have to wait another 10 years for pension here in Australia. Working manual labour all my life. Have a hard enough time getting out of bed
This was the way for millions. Somehow things changed and we are living longer - why, and for what I don't know.
Jack Walker and the hundreds of thousands like him . True heros of Great Britain 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Heroes
Jack Walker looks to be a fine fella but that is bollocks. ...What's heroic about submitting to working in a shite job all your life, making 'mill owner rich whilst knowingly having no possibility of anything interesting or good coming your way and eventually keeling over due to it? That's perfect submission to mediocrity and monotony, it's not heroism - the working class hero is a conjuring trick to see that submission celebrated, it's bollocks. A hero is someone who does something ABNORMAL, something EXCEPTIONAL, something RISKY, who WINS out... what Jack Walker does is perfectly predictable, isn't it? They shot the film, he stayed where he was, made the factory owner lots of cash and eventually keeled over. If that's a hero I'm Napoleon Bonaparte.
@@JesseP.Watson Did you watch the video? Jack said that he'd like to set up his own business at some point. I don't know his family circumstances. However, if he was bright enough he should have sat the Eleven Plus. Got into a Grammar School, and that would have been his ticket out of working class drudgery. You'd have thought that would have been what his parents wanted? Instead, he left school at fourteen, and went into the same manual labour as his father.
@@sandgrownun66 I've nought against Jack, a good man, that reverence of the guy who accepts perfect monotony is what I meant to push back against a bit, I've heard it one too many times (I was brought up around this same area). ...Because, the truth is, we can always get out of a position if we REALLY want to, we might end up in a worse one, of course, but we can try. ...And the misplaced patriotism of the OP like Jack was a hero for spending his life colouring cloth for Britain... he was employed in a factory, a private company, there's no great service there and, to my mind, it's gullible to think otherwise. No, it's just a job, making cash, no need to pretend its of great importance, it ain't. Jack Walker's story is one of hardship, monotony and obscurity, there's a beauty in that, no need to pretend he's some great British hero.
@@richardprocter4905 Didn't that sweat and tears have to be supervised by educated or bright people. Directing plans of innovations and inventions made by even more talented people?
People like Jack put the ‘Great’ in Britain. May he rest in peace.
Imagine if the workers in all countries stopped having children.
Poor Jack dying at 62 meant he never even got a retirement to enjoy. Working in those horribly unhealthy conditions was bound to take its toll. I wonder how many people in the industry died young.
The cigarette industry played its part.
@@bastogne315that’s what I was thinking but to be honest about this, by 1971 we all knew of the harmful effects of smoking.
I learned great wisdom from the guys i worked with in the 70's. Most served in the war... Glad to be alive. Tbey were patient with me and tought me well. I try to pass this wisdom to my grandkids... God bless everyone like Jack.
@@tsb3093 Correct. The first concrete evidence of cigarettes causing disease was published in 1950 by Professor Doll in the UK. Nearly everyone has a relative who was killed early by smoking.
@@sandgrownun66…and by the same token my father and mother were never smokers and lived long lives
This man and woman were enslaved. The humility and essential decency of these people should be used as a lesson for all of us.
The entire planet is enslaved
You're just changing the meaning of the word enslaved. They had to work harder than most people in the west do now, but they would have looked back at the people a few generations before them with the same feeling we have looking at them. It's because of all these generations of people working that our lives are relatively easy now. The real problem is that we are squandering their gift to us.
Well at least he was able to own a house, today's youth are unable to build a future and own property, they are working to pay rent and bills, that's true slavery.
@@stevem815 Excellent point well made Steve. I suppose the point I was making was what little alternative they had at that time and one has to consider the notion of enslavement as a figurative concept rather than the traditional sense of the word, which arguably does a disservice to those people who laboured under real terms of enslavement. In relative terms I live a lavish lifestyle compared to the family in the documentary; though a Russian Oligarch would see me as a peasant.
This is the way it's always been. Although Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. If you want equality, where everyone was equally poor, you could always try Communism.
John Pilger RIP. We need people and TV that gives us the truth .
infuriating when you compare it to what passes for journalism today.
This kind of thinking is now decried by an ultra right wing media as radical marxist and unaustralian/unbritish etc. In fact any view that is not hyper capitalist is attacked as extreme left.
John Pilger was a titan of hard hitting current affairs documentaries. He did fantastic research, went into the field, and left nothing unturned. He was also an humanitarian. This was journalism at it's finest
It’s like watching my dad. A real grafter. Dead at 57. Robbed of the retirement he so richly deserved and was looking forward to. A great film. What a great man Jack was. Thank you for the upload.
I came to the conclusion fairly early in life that hard work is rarely rewarded and your work is just making other people richer It's one aspect of working class that's incomprehensible to me, they are too conditioned by the Protestant work ethic I guess
@@keithparker1346 Did that apply to the USSR?
@@sandgrownun66Yep - the USSR was the same story as the West - a bunch of useless w*nkers at the top taking the fruits of everybody's hard work....
Condolences 💐 to your Dad and the family. Thanks for sharing. 🙏👍
@@sandgrownun66 what has this got to do with USSR?
When jack said he was saving his money so that audrey could have a good start to life after school, i had to hold back the tears. What a lovely man. Pure decent, hard working and you can see he loved audrey so much. Great programme. More people should see this.
Beverly was his daughter , Audrey was his wife. His daughter passed away too
He also wanted to marry her up into middle class 🤣🤣🤣
I started my working life as an apprentice toolmaker in 1978, my life is very different now than it was then, but I miss that way of life and work mates like Jack, straight, honest, no nonsense, knowledgeable blokes, a rare commodity nowadays.
They don’t make people like Jack anymore, John pinger was a fantastic real for the people journalist.
Pilger
@@sandgrownun66 slip of the finger , yikes 😧
Manners ,no drugs ,no stabbing ,no litter what a time to be alive
Using the "st*b" word, had my reply go down the memory hole.
Better see the optician to see if they can remove the rose tint from your spectacles...
@@Vroomfondle1066 It was better then. Not so many ragheads then.
@@Vroomfondle1066 You better get to the doctor's to see about that verbal diarrhoea that's splattering out of you mouth.
You must be looking at it with rose tinted spectacles: there WAS drugs, there WAS killings, there WAS MASSES of litter, and there WAS an ABUNDANCE of racism i.e. people with no manners. Your comment reeks of ignorance, old man.
What a wonderful programme. RIP Jack, Audrey and Beverley.
As well as John Pilger
So many comments praising how hard working they were. The lad died of a heart attack age only about 62. Nobody should be worked to a death before their time
Heroes. What a woman and what a man.
Respect to the memory of this fine man and his wife and daughter . Fine human beings and a lesson in humility for us all .
I found this very moving. Jack obviously a very hard worker who like most deserved far more. It reminded me of my late Dad who would cycle 20 miles a day in all weathers to feed us. Rest in peace my old man.
Why didn't he use a car, or get a bus?
He couldn’t help but brag a few minutes in he does nothing but smoke for an hour and a half once machine is set.
@@jenniferindigochameleon6680 point accepted
It isn't, & wasn't, always that simple, or an available choice. Is it !
@@user-vt2jo3oi7i What isn't an available choice?
During my years as Trade Union official I met Jack Walker (in his senior years). He told me of this World in Action interview he did in the 70s, thank you for uploading this, his comments around 14.05 still ring true today. He was a great man and mentor to me and sadly passed away at Berwick Railway St, travelling back from a visit to my home.
Hi Pat. Do you know what became of his daughter?
@@spike197047 sorry mate I don’t, lost contact many years ago
Thank you for this. There’s something about Jack that brings me back time and time again. Only one when this was made and yet he represents so much that is good, decent and honest. Seemingly he didn’t get to enjoy much of his retirement?
Rip a true hero xx
@@spike197047 Hi Stephen, I am his daughter Bev's son-in-law, unfortunately she passed nearly 11 years ago now.
An absolutely fabulous programme what a man Jack was
Sitting here with tears in my eyes. I hope the men like Jack know how grateful we are that men like him built the world we now live in. You were a good and decent man, Jack and I hope that life treated you better in later years. God bless you.
Beautiful comment this my friend. I have a frog in my throat watching this. What a true hero Jack was, a true northern grafter. Wouldn’t it be nice to go back a shake a true gentleman’s hand.
Get a grip
@@scouseaussie1638shut up
Are we, how do you make that out then ?
Where's your god's blessings here?
If tv was this good in 2024 I’d watch it again.
Agree with that
He’s basically given up at 36 of getting his own house and keeping the money for his daughter. And today I see a fiscal study on the horrendous gap between those with and those without. And I’m not talking about people on benefits I’m talking good grafters not paid enough to match the rise in living costs and deposit for a house. We really haven’t come any further in society have we.
Luckily we have the slave ship Amazon to knock things back to medival times. And the covid outbreak is exactly what those bastard's need to make us greatful for even less.
We've gone backwards in terms of our current lack of respect for humble people like Jack and adoration of people on Chlamydia Island, or is it called love island, I can't remember
Why does he need to get his own house when he has a council house?
People on the dole aren't all shirkers
God damn world in action was an awesome series I remember watching it growing up as a kid and its quality has never been equalled
i loved the usic to it - great show
I loved the programme. As I grew up it helped me become socially aware. I learned about so much about life in the real world and politics.
For me it was a must-see along with World at War.
On at peak time too. After Coronation St.
I was born 1980 and I remember watching this, and panorama.
I was born in 66 and can remember men like Jack in the Lancashire Mill Towns. Brilliant people.
A true legend from his day. Blood, sweat and tears all for his daughter. Imagine what he would think of today?
Men like Jack Walker make you proud to be working class. I myself am from a northern industrial town and unfortunately men of Jack's ilk are becoming scarcer as the years go by. Lovely piece of film though really captures a slice of life and a generation of people, i fear, we will never see again.
RIP, JOHN PILGER.👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️🙏
Hard times breed tough men. God bless, Jack. You never let anyone down.
The council houses look so clean! Streets looked well kept and tidy.
They weren't that clean but most of the litter was paper based and soon disappeared unlike the plastics of today.
I live in a Central European city that was surprisingly clean...until we got the first McDonald's. The McDonald's rubbish on the street started appearing a few blocks away from the "restaurant". It was the only litter. It seems to have created a sort of freedom to throw trash around. Before McDonald's, cigarette butts and nothing much else. But once people started throwing McDonald's trash around, the litter problem got worse and worse.
It's easy to keep a flat or house clean when you only buy and have as much as you need to use. The modern family "needs" so much crap, kids wade through toys on the floor and can't find anything to do, closets stuffed with more clothes and shoes than anyone actually wears... So we "embrace minimalism" to try to have a clean home and less stress. But how much real money are we shovelling into the landfill when we become minimalists? We want...something...and we buy stuff to fill the desire. These people had community, family, convictions, the ability to converse and the desire to make a decent world. They had values higher than buying stuff,so they didn't drown in stuff. They invested in family, neighbours, society, hobbies... *Real life* instead of buying a "lifestyle."
@@stevetaylor8698exactly. I remember stray dogs and their excrement all over the streets. There were litter campaigns when I was at primary school in the 1970’s. Memory is a lot sweeter than reality! Too many people love to wear rose tinted glasses!
I worked in a small optical factory type of environment for decades and I just turned 60. The last 7 years I have been able to work for myself, doing something I like and I'm good at and don't have to punch a clock any more. It is priceless. Factory work is soul destroying. So is any job that pays barely enough to get by and nothing more.
In my opinion, the big change came in the eighties when Thatcher's philosophies of "greed is good" and "there's no such thing as society" divided the working people against each other. People became increasingly materialistic and saw neighbours not as friends but as competition for status
Rip John Pilger. I wish we still had journalists like him.
I don't believe in heaven, but I hope this man and his wife are there.
This film makes me feel very humble❤
Respect to the UK!
Incredible TV like this doesnt exist anymore.
True. You can find great storytelling on KZhead though.
What are u talking about captain ridiculous…. It’s a reality documentary and they still make them today 🤭
@@dcanes5720 thanks for your offensive and unnecessary input. There is nothing on TV that looks at social issues in any way as effectively as World in Action did. You may go now.
Throughout history & even today, the Jack's & Audrey's of this world are the forgotten. Hard working decent people. God bless them.
Except that your god didn't bless them.
My dad drove on the continent from Ireland in these years. No heater, no bunk in truck, no radio or fb radio. If he got a breakdown he had to attempt to fix the truck himself. If not a phone dall to Ireland and they in turn would "telex" the nearest operator to fix the truck....rain or snow. 4 children and a wife at home. My mother always said that when he would return after a week or two, he never knew if we were in bed or hospital.....tough bloody times, and then running around after the haulier for wages......he was one great father.....
Laetitia Logan same with mine! He drove for years, Ireland was a bloody hard place to raise a family. We were poor but happy and looking at kids today I don't think id swop it, gave me a great head for managing hard times myself!
bless your father and his generation x
@@SuperStevien Thank you so much
@@andrewgoodbody2121 Thank you AG...it was damn hard, but the hardship set me up in so many ways
That short haunting theme tune to start and end this iconic and classic British topical affairs program is unforgettable for viewers old enough today to remember it on at 7.30pm in the evening. Britain from a long bygone era.
I love the World in Action theme tune, very evocative.
Yep the memories are indeed haunting
8 o'clock, wasn't it? After Coronation Street on a Monday night.
Do you notice we don't see this so much anymore? Raw reporting of British life. Its all gloss now, not real.
My God, 50 years and nothing has changed
I was in my second year of my working life when this documentary was made. I am retired now. What a lovely family, sad to hear they have all passed on. R.I.P. It was a different world then, a much nicer place.
It certainly looked it, My grandad used to say the days were long and sometimes only a dripping sandwich to come home to afterward. But there was none of this complaining and entitlement you see today. Good people.
? ......Huh? How was the world "a much nicer place"? To work in some chemical-drenched factory with no windows for 60 hours a week until you die with no money at 62? Man, that SUCKS.
@@paulbaumer8210 60 hours a day? What planet do you live on?
A week (corrected).........but it may as well have been a day for the effort put in.
Yeah it's just been out sorced to China, some poor sods still paying the price somewhere. @@paulbaumer8210
This could have been my mother and father in this film. I think all of us from that era can resonate with this.
What a great guy. Good role model
If he is 36 years old,then his wife looks 76 The government kept ordinary working people in their place,even the labour party.It's still happening,and it always has.
Started work in1971 as an apprentice dyer,this brings back so many memories,then spent the rest of my working life as a dye house manager
No health and safety in those days. I am the same age as their daughter Beverley and I remember how things were for working class people. Most of us lived hand to mouth, week by week, from pay day to pay day. As kids we knew not to ask for things because the money wasn’t there to afford to buy it. I don’t ever think it occurred to me that university was ever an option for kids like me, you just never considered it because leaving school at 16, then earning a wage was the expectation of every school leaver. I remember giving my wage packet to my mother on Friday and she would give me back my bus fare to work, plus a little bit of spending money. I didn’t know anyone that did it any differently. Life was so much different back then, work wasn’t a dirty word and benefits were there to help out short term and we’re not a way of life like today. ‘Smack’ was something you got on the back of the legs, ‘Crack’ was something you saw in a mirror and ‘spice’ was a bag of sweets. Oh how things have changed.
John Pilger was the finest journalist there ever was.
1971. The year i was born. Seems like a different world. Men and women like this made Britain rich, with their hard work and sacrifice. A hard life it was for them and for generations before them, who suffered even worse. RIP Jack and all those folk who have gone from this world. No more toil for those good souls.❤ Much praise too for the journalist John Pilger and the World in Action crew. This is a great record of how things were for ordinary people just 53 years ago.
What a giant of a man !
What a wonderful documentary that I’m sure resonates with many people. Jack and his family lovely people who are the backbone of society, decent, honest hard working with great fortitude and humour.
What a wonderful watch, what a man, people were so much better them day's,,,
John Pilger was a true friend to the working class the impoverished the hungry a Great War corespondent and true friend of Palestine. What a perfect example of a decent hardworking family so sad he died before he ever drew his pension.
He died a year after he retired. One bloody year.
rip Jack , hard working backbone of Britain
He still had the Teddy Boy look that I dare say he sported as a teenager back in the 50's.
Rest well Mr Pilger, you are a beacon for us all. 🙏📚☘️👍
This should be shown to school kids today. In some ways nothing has changed and is getting worse.
He seemed a decent, honest man. Great documentary
That's how people were back then and there was a great community spirit. Everyone pretty much knew everyone else and neighbours would do each other favours, knowing they would get it back when needed. Kids would be in each others houses all the time and the mum would so often make an extra tea for them. There wasn't as much money in those days, but people had dignity and respect for each other.
Thought provoking. RIP Mr Jack Walker.
Working Class Hero. Respect to J.W.
This is fantastic as a little kid i use to sit with me dad watching world in action 8.30 monday night itv this is a great insight into a man who worked his fingers to the bone the idiots that moan nowadays who are pampered & have everything this is a proper wake up
A wonderful insight into life in 1971. I was 11 at the time, but my estate was full of hard working people like Jack Walker and his wife, including my own Dad, but we lost Mum when I was 9. But everyone called these people Aunty and Uncle back then, I think I had 3 or 4 'Uncle Jacks'. Thank you for showing this video, I appreciate it.
A lovely story. I often wonder if the youth of today look back on the the post 2000s with such fondness.
What a wonderful little film. Jack came across as a lovely man. I really felt for him because he was just scraping by.
Fascinating glimpse of life in GB at this time. Another time indeed.
Terrible conditions in them days, no health and safety, I subcontracted for Courtaulds worked in some terrible conditions during the 70s breathing in all types of chemicals. I am now in my 70s struggle with Bad health, since I was about 50 amazing, how I made it up to now ,God bless people like Jack, I was one of them. I also was paid just over £20 a week for eight hour day people these days have it a lot easier . if you were unemployed, then you got the bare minimum, not like the big handouts they have these days, everything paid such as your rent et cetera et cetera we got next to nothing we had to go to work whether we liked it. Or not absolutely no choice. excellent video, thank you for putting this out in one way so sad God bless that family .❤🇬🇧
Someone tell Jack that in 50 years we will have phones and flat screen tv’s but also going to food banks😢
Love Jack, it's a shame John Pilger wanted to present this only as a bleak existence, rather than a strong, informed fight against a faceless, oppressive industrial system they have no option to work for. There is some power in this with Pilger doesn't focus on.... I would have loved to see Jack ask John how much he can save over 3 years as comparison
Did you notice they didn't have anything but the house was tidy, they both worked, they weren't attached to screens or ignoring each other. The streets were safe and clean, the people had respect for each other & they had nothing. Guy was earning £4 a day for an 8 hour shift. 50p an hour. Even allowing for inflation his daughter's new dress and shoes will cost him 6 hours labour...
£4 a day gross don’t forget
This was just before the high inflation of the mid-seventies in the UK, killed the value of money.
@@philshine3388 If he had £20 and some smash in his pay packet it would be £4 net. If he was losing 18p for being late, 'i.e. quartered, that would make 72p/hr gross, 30% tax and NI comes out at 50p/hr net, a rough guess of course as that doesn't take into account tax allowances etc. Not horrific for the times. I started work as an apprentice blacksmith early 80s and my first year rate was 90p/hr. No idea what the time served rate would have been as I hated the job and was frankly a bit sh!t at it so got out of it after a few years and been doing something else that's kept me equally poor ever since.😞
Or, they knew they were being filmed so on best behaviour and house tidied up.
@terri6854 Just because they are poor, doesn't mean they're not clean or tidy. There are working class slobs and working class people who aren't slobs, just like any other social class.
I wonder what Mr Walker would think today where so many dream of Instagram influencing as a career, of Love island and the like as success? That man and his family could teach the modern world much. His dream? To own a small garden shop. Much respect.
Well, yours is an interesting comment. He also said he dreamed that his daughter would become a "glamour girl" and a guy in a Jaguar would come along and rescue her. "Marry her way out of the working class" What is different?
@@ReputationManagementDCannell I think perhaps he was thinking of the then accepted classes; working, middle and upper. Perhaps when he meant glamour, he had in mind not working in a factory. You could be right, however I think he would have been too much of a traditional man to see parading around in the manner we see today as acceptable.
John Pilgers work will go down in history. Thanks lad.
I’m watching this in 2024 and what a totally different attitude to work there was then. Jack is a proper working man.
Bloody hard work in noisy conditions with no ear plugs!
A good hardworking man. MHDSRIP. I feel humbled and sad, not for him, but that his values and ethics do not exist today. You lived a good honest life Jack.
36! Dude looks and acts like a 76 year old. Legend
I'll say this, to have a full-time job, decent meals each night, a nice garden plot, not have to worry about not being able to afford gas and leckie, have a nice summer holiday, a nice semi-detached, say what ya want it's not a bad life. Yes the job he was doing was a bit rough, but some jobs now are awful and it was only 8 hours a day which is easy enough. Better than nowadays that's for sure.
Fast forward fifty years what's changed except the divide between many more rich and even more poor.
Brings tears to your eyes to see decent/good people suffer.
Yes,it did make one rather tearful to see good and decent people receive so little in life. Although one can blame the captains of industry for the conditions of the likes of Jack Walker the likes of Jack have to shoulder some of the blame. I have little doubt that Jack and his colleagues have,''always voted Labour'',just like their fathers. The Labour party has sold the British working class down the Swanee with the worst Labour government being led by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. I suppose the only way Jack and his pals will ever get off the treadmill is to either win the football pools or the lotto. Or failing that death!!
Empathy shows humanity. Even today some people are relying on food banks, brave new world; I think not...............
@@beaucorr2561 you don't think that the owners of mills etc sold out their employees by moving production abroad your comments after that are shameful
John Pilger,an absolute hero.
Little this fella knows that was actually an industry market top and things just went downhill from there. Those jobs are long gone.
I am watching this in 2024 and I remember world in action but for me having respect and sympathy for Jack and his family are the least I can do as I can relate to the demands a manual Labour job makes on your life. It’s the futility of his situation that comes across here and his determination to carry on and not let it grind him down. A decent genuine guy of so many that passed through.
And youth of today think we had it easy, don’t know how hard we worked. Shift work in a paper mill, no car, cycled to work all weathers night and day….and on days off did tree felling to make ends meet.
Ow yeah it's so easy for them on zero hours contracts now isn't it? Cycling around in all weathers d for deliveroo? Or in a non unionised Warehouse where you can't leave for an hour cos you've got to be searched. No breaks your peeing in a bottle
Total admiration for Jack and his wife.
Thank you Jack and John. Desperately moving reminder we are midgets on the shoulder of giants.
I really like Jack & have been privileged to meet men like him.
What a decent hard working bloke,full respect to him
People acting like these tough jobs no longer exist and people still don’t work pay check to pay check. Trust me, coming from a working class town there are lots of men going to tough monotonous jobs whos knees and back are done in by the time they’re 40.
Wat an absaloute lovley charismatic northen bloke. He tryed to work hard but the system is so that kept him and others like him in place. Still his fighting spirit shined bright in this film. Inspiring. Shows just how things are still like they were.❤
Brilliant, true documentary. The ending actually brought a tear to my eye.
I was 14 years old when this was made. I'm now 57 and nothings changed in Britain. The biggest enemy of the working man, sadly is the selfish working man and the me, me, me culture encouraged by all political parties over the past 30 years.
6 years late with this reply and to think our own are still the ones holding us down , godspeed to all workers , boris is not going to give us a crumb , peace
Uneven distribution of wealth. Thatcher's legacy. Threw away the collective sacrifice and unity earned by men like Jack during WW2