Suggs: Teen Spirit- The Mods & The Rockers

Bullshit !!

@@johnbaker7184 Oh, don't be silly.

Quadrophenia?

​@@johnbaker7184 This sounds like his truth. Unvarnished stuff & not like the films.

In the film Quadraphenia the Mods were getting trashed by the Rockers. That is not what happened.

The demise of youth culture was totally engineered by the British state, governments ( labour& tory) hated all forms of youth culture. The Rave scene was the last , and was killed off by a government Bill banning " repetitive beats". Nowadays, young people have to worry about their pensions. Thank christ I was born in 1954, I would hate to be young now. This country is ruined.

They do here in Manchester and Lancashire, in fact most of us oldies look back very fondly and join together remembering Mods, Rockers, Two Tone, Madness, Punk, Queen and all the many other brilliantly creative bands and people "Way Back Then." Many people are still unsure about Synth Bands and New Romantics but that genre produced good music too. Ahh I'm so pleased I was around and young in those days....... 🐝🥳😎💯🧑‍🦽🗣🏍🛵🛵🎉🎟🎫

@@chrisboyslimuk5186 thats great and to think a lot of the time it was media that span the wheels between the fights of these genres.

@@daviddelano-oakes1082 oh most certainly yes. I lived near Skegness when I was much younger and knew plenty of mods , rockers and all types. I did witness the media winding things up, when mostly the media were told to leave them alone. Of course some fights broke out in pubs from time to time, but that was just pubs for you and nothing to do with rivalry between mods and rockers. I was happy to be out and about and on the beaches , I never really felt uneasy or threatened- unless I spilt my pint on someone lol.

@@chrisboyslimuk5186 I use to get in loads of fights with casuals/ football hooligans when I was younger I got sick of them all ways starting 😂😂😂

@@daviddelano-oakes1082 oh God yes I used to watch Northern football clubs like Leeds United and Manchester United with my brother and there was always fighting , as there was with Southern clubs too. You can tell when a casual or a football hooligan wants to pick a fight. Both me and my brother lived in Leedds for a while so we watched Leeds United, but it did get dangerous most of the time. That was a long time ago and things have improved to a certain degree these days.

Same here. Just got my motorcycle licence and it was a decision between motorcycle and scooter, both great. Love both fashion styles honestly, both music styles are legendary... so now I have the Vespa and the black leather jacket haha

The music was just better then - on all sides (a lot of which crossed-over)

Spot on

GOOD FOR YOU MATE !!!

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@@theneurochemist5267 true bro

@MusicalElitist1 Shame you are a twat

IM NEARLY 76 AND I WAS A ROCKER MY FIRST EVER GIRLFRIEND IN 1965 WAS A MOD WE MARRIED IN 1996 TILL SHE DIED IN 2013.

I agree l was a Northampton Mod, and many Mods in Northampton were not fans of Quadrophenia and did not talk about the movie.

I remember 1 brother used to back-comb the back of the top of his hair!

You’re only talking about the 80’s New Wave Revival and it’s caricature : very reducing and limited vision ... "Harrington" jackets are in fact windbreakers mostly first worn by American Collegiates like Rodney Harrington, the character played by Ryan O’Neal in US TV Sitcom "Peyton Place" (in truth, "Harrington” is a very recent clothing label deposited by French manufacturers to exploit the trend, never such brand existed before! ) and the original casual wear was created by English clothing brand, Barracuta, in the 1930’s which was in turn massively imported in the 1940’s by American Brooks Brothers... Most mods didn’t even wear Fred Perry’s, they had French, Italian or German polo shirts with long pointy lapels, often zipped-up!

@@AstroMockerSelector Peyton Place was a soap opera, not a sitcom. Harington jackets and Fred Perry polo shirts were part of the Mod Revival at the tail-end of the 70's. There was no such thing as an "80's New Wave Revival" back then. I guess you're referring to 90's Brit-Pop.

@@crapple009 Thank you gor your lecture, but I know all that already! Saying Peyton Place is a Soap Opera not a Sitcom is like saying Soul doesn’t come from R&B, two sides of a same coin. As for New wave not being from the 1980’s, you’re trippin’ : New Wave emerged at the tail end of Punk late ‘78/79 just like the mod revival and I was referring to mods from that New Wave period, the first revival in many ways as important as the original wave from ‘59/65. Up to when a French brand called themselves "Harrington" manufacturing that design of windbreakers who registered trademark in the early 00’s, there was no really such thing as Harrington jackets and the name referred to the College jacket Ryan O’Neal’s character in that Soap or Sitcom (whatever you wanna call it! ), Rodney Harrington was wearing; the Original design was made in the 1930’s by Barracuta, but there were thousands of brands reproducing that jacket style (Penney’s, Sears, Mc Greggor... you name it! ).

@@AstroMockerSelector Calling my reply a "lecture"? Seriously? Got it. But you wrote "New Wave Revival", not me. How could there be a new wave revival in the early 80's when new wave was happening then? It's impossible. Revivals always come after the fact, usually 15-20 years after the fact. Please re-read your original comment. And no, I'm not "trippin''"- I know the new wave (post punk) era started in 1978 and continued into the early 80's. If anything, there was a 60's revival in the early 80's (Mod/British Invasion). However, that was retro as opposed to the then-contemporary new wave scene. Sitcoms (short for 'situation-comedies) and soap operas are two totally different things: It's like saying Peyton Place ( a soap opera) is the same genre as Friends (a sitcom). As far as Harrington jackets are concerned, I agree with you on those. No need to get worked up or use exclamation points-my reply wasn't meant to be taken personal or as an attack. Just stating some facts in a calm manner, that's all.

@@crapple009 By "New Wave revival", I meant the mod revival of the New Wave era. And, Situation Comedies for me are like Soap Operas in the sense that both are sponsored and paid for by commercials (otherwise yes, you are right about the subtleties! ). Let’s just say I use English as a second language...

I KNOW FUCKING CLASSIC

In need of a dentist as well...

I'm glad someone else is saying this - it's something that annoys me about the mod scene. I went to see a friend's band at a mod festival once & it was laughable. A sea of parkas and THAT haircut which was cool in the early 00's. Hardly looking to the future!

Pocket money was usually spent on a 45 record.

My pride and joy was my orange and cream record player! Always got annoyed when I had to replace the needle as they were expensive!

Was you a mod or rocker? 🙂

@@MarkMahoney hey! well, both at different times!! Lol! I have ridden motorbikes and been into the rocker scene....also tho I love the mod scene and ride a scooter now ! ;) I was a punk rocker too! Aaah what fun times! Gotta keep having 'em! Love my scooty!!

@@LittleMissIssues you can't beat a woman that rides!😊 Are still riding now? ;) I missed the peak of the sub cultures but when younger I liked the rockers, as get older more liking the mods.. the who Paul Weller. Yes you gotta keep enjoying it, I bet you have a lot of stories to tell!!

@@MarkMahoney You know I do!! I lived in London in the mid to late 80s, some of the best times of my life were right there!! I have a new scooter that I ride all around the back roads where I live, on errands around here and there. I record some of the rides, too, and usually put some good riding soundtrack with it! ;) My dad got me my first motorbike - a little Indian - when I was 6 years old, he was an enduro/motocross racer! I raced a little when I was like 8,9 years, "powder puff races" lol, good times!!

@@LittleMissIssues that's great!! :) Yes I did tune in to see some of your riding vids! I noticed you are American! The 80s in London what a time to be their! I lived out in countryside about 30miles from London and though their was mods and rockers around they were far and far between, did you lived south London?

Declan Mc Dermott I’ll have to see if I can get hold of that too.

I have them both if you want them mate

Declan Mc Dermott yes please if you wouldn’t mind!

Mods were Nancy boys. Skinheads were arseholes and they both had their roots in rocker music.

@@alfsmith4936 nope. After crossing over from Modern Jazz, Mods were into R&B and blues to a degree, which along with gospel were the roots of Rock n Roll.

They are the boneheads that hated the mods,neo Nazis.Skinhead came out of mod when the hard mods shaved their hair off and they was known as skinhead

@@alfsmith4936 Re the music. That's not entirely true. The mods and the original skinheads were both into Jamaican and black American music, and the mods were also into British bands such as the Who, the Kinks and the (early) Rolling Stones. Later skinheads latched onto punk and called their version of it Oi. As far as I know, rockers were just into 1950s rock'n'roll (which is why they were seen as "old-fashioned" in the 1960s). Soul music came from rythm'n'blues, and ska/reggae _partly_ came from rhythm'n'blues. Rock'n'roll also came from rhythm'n'blues, as did punk if you trace it back far enough, but soul and ska/reggae didn't come from rock'n'roll.

@@rld8163 Exactly..

Suggs was a skinhead, part of the 2nd wave that came back with the rise of the punk scene in 76/77. He was a bit of a naughty boy. I'll leave it at that.

@@speedking439 Suggs and the band despised their skinhead following.

@@speedking439 He's such a sell out middle class inoffensive tv type now. So fake.

@@darkcustomxxx7252 he grew up.

@@speedking439 Tell me more i know different

I just watched Quadrophenia, last night, for the first time! 😀

I. Liked being a mod but loved the thril of ton ups down the arteiral on a bsa triumph what ever loved bikes, and my biker friends but loved my mod buddies too so had a sort of ducking n diving as loved the speed but being mod was me, greart times in Rayleigh Essex but from Brighton

Another miserated old fart complaining about young people today.

THERE Was ALWAYS !!!!More MODS ???Cos The New Fashion Was MODS !!! Now Its ALL Gone GAY 😔😣Christ g

If you're going to ride a tuned up scooter leathers make more sense. Hence as rally going scooterboys we adopted the leather jacket in the mid 80s. Try looking cool in a suit after riding 200 miles in the winter months.

@@ScooterIndo Yep, makes perfect sense.

Now its a daft padded suit

Mods

Mods then casuals

😂😂😂

What about the teeth 😬 it seems that's all you yanks harp on about, you have far more toothless morons than us,

I think Suggs was born in the 60's around 62 ?

But you won't BE a mod will you? You'll just be a clone like all those suits who wear denim and ride Harleys at the weekend. At the time it wasn't just a lifestyle choice, it WAS your life.

@@keithhoughton4308 you are right I will never be a true mod . However I can take the ideas of a mod to hart like being open to new experiences with a style from my contemporaries. Can I do that?

@@xavi239 sorry mate. I jumped in a bit there. I was around in the 60's and I guess a bit of youth envy crept in!

@@xavi239 Absolutely you can. 60's originals, 70's revivalists, 80's modernists, 90's stylists... doesn't matter- If any one of them passed by in the street- "there goes a mod". There will always be the snobbish " I was first" types in whatever things you choose to like ( I remember them referring to themselves as "individualists"- pfffftttt!). Thing is, there's no fun in a one person party, having a one person dance in their one person individualist bedroom. If it's obsessive, cultish and if you have a like-minded circle - a clique, a tribe... If you have so much going on- clothes, music, mode of transport, how many buttons, what way to have your hair, how you eat, breathe, sleep, fart.... That's the "Way of life" that you'll constantly hear about. Go be an ace Mod, make yourself some great memories for when you're old and boring. Keep the whole thing alive ...keep the faith.

I think Its The BLUE FLAMES g

It was there before them (Ivy League fashion), but they put a twist on it and popularized it, that's for sure. Interesting that they started out really as rockers.

Mods were around in the late 50s in London s soho that is where it started

@@rogercooper4087 Modernist Jazz as opposed to Trad Jazz

@@stormytempest3907 were lambretta the more desireable of the two brands? i think the early lambrettas had a coolr look.

Lambrettas were unreliable, always breaking down. Vespas weren't. I had 2 Vespas.

Vespa wins as it's the most intelligent design. From an engineering perspective the vespa was much better.

Lambretta SX200!!!!! Vespa's looked pregnant.

lincbond442 yes the 80's that and some of the other two tone bands and some of the Punk bands of the 80's were really good , most things that weren't main stream.

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It's a dump now. Nothing individual about it.

Skinheads had to evolve into a bunch of racists

Being a Skin head might as well be a Rocker what wiv dem DM's and the Shaved Head lol. I never thought Skins heads and Mods were related only in them Cromby Coats and Narrow Collar Stripped Shirts. Basically Mods were normal Blokes as were Rockers but Skin Heads became something else unfortunatley

@@EH-bg1yo no skinhead is racist! Bone heads are!

@@EH-bg1yo skinheads where never racist you tool.

@@TheCitroenman1 screwdriver?

I've been to the ace a few times and it's all old men in leather waistcoats trying to be 'different'.

Yeah! No mention of keith being a mod icon in this at all?

The mods were usually the kids of soldiers from ww2

my mother´s friends were mods and they were neither rich nor hipsters lol

THE Rockers CAME About After The WILD One !!!Was AT LAST !!!!!Shown To US THE UK ???? 7yrs After IT Came Out Over There ????*AS OUR LONDON Gov !!!SAID it Was TOO Rough !!!FK Our GOV 😔😂😂😂😂An Old Limey ROCKER 😁g

William Mark you're the comedy mod pal

@@jopink7674 been there done it..100+ rallys..a was there from colwyn bay "82-the dark days of the late 80s/early 90s, when the scooter scene/mod scene was probably at its lowest ebb number wise..it was never a fashion for me,it WAS a way of life..1%

Ennit

@@williammark3210 you sound a real comedy mod lol

You can't lean them round corners lol.