The 10 Types of Programmers you'll encounter.
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Ex-Google TechLead explains the 10 types of software engineers.
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From the first minutes ,I could say that you have changed
the way you addressed your message to Chief diversity officer position was fascinating...Lol, it is really true...Unless you are LGBT or black man, you dont have rights to take the position
TechLead is it too late for a 34 year old to get into programming, i work in finance at the moment?
It's funny you think that being an ex employee of Facebook or Google is desirable.
you missed the imposter type @techlead just go for it. I am a black asian trans lesbian male though. I am expecting to get hired at TechLead next week for 1 billion dollar salary to write code in COBOL and Fortran for Fullstack Web Development. Thanks Chief!
"You're just a basic Asian male. You cannot be our diversity officer" lmao
Why you being racist?
@Greg Eremeev lol
@Greg Eremeev why you racist
Racist
@@Tchalla101 it’s a joke. Had you watched the video you would’ve understood
The intern: "I'm really excited about the next chapter when I'll be building a button"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol i used to be that intern, i pretend to be excited
Not just button, it is button app.
Hahah!! 😂
😂😂😂😂
"using HTML technologies" wow, that sounds advanced. Let's hope James gets back soon.
SMH
keep dreaming
Javascript, CSS... lmao
html technologies
don't laugh, that nonsense made me $$$$$ in 97 :D
"So you can't code?" "I'm part of the no-code low-code movement"
"and now we have our infracoder, steve" "Hi Steve, what are you doing?" "Oh Hi, I'm busy developing my infracode using Console Recorder?"
Lmfsao
So the company i work for is going through a massive project where we had multiple vendors bidding and it's insane how much marketing they put into the whole no code/low code aspects and they try to pitch it as "you don't need so many expensive programmers when ANYONE can use our tool".....there is no fucking way in hell the project will go anywhere without actual real programmers finding work arounds to that no code/low code bullshit. once you get beyond the most basic mundane tasks the low code/no code stuff falls apart and you have to spend more time and effort figuring out how to make it work within the restrictive framework than if you could just write a dozen lines of code for it.
I recall "Visual Programming" being a big part of the new sofware hype in the '90s. "... nothing new under the sun."
@@OtakuSanel precisely! Oh, I remember when the company I worked at (just a few people small) needed some additional guys to code in ColdFusion on a specific project. Some guys came from another country, they were "visually coding in java" . After we told them that that won't cut it, that they need to do CF within our framework, they just said: "no problem, we'll do CF, but it'll be more expensive, as we need to learn along." Whaaat?
You missed Michelangelo, the guy who takes what should be a five-minute fix and spends the next two weeks writing a package that will never be used again.
😂 🤣🤣
I do this all the time😂
I feel personally attacked :DDD
@@andymac6207 lol me too
That's funny. However, in Michelangelo's defense, one of the things I've learned, over the years, is that "quick" fixes end up being permanent and get built around. One-off scripts end up becoming core pieces of the business logic. I used to get quite frustrated with the complexity of popular libraries (say, ncurses, Motif, unix network sockets, ssl certificate signing, etc) because it seemed like there was so much boilerplate code needed to do the simple thing I wanted to do. It wasn't until later when I realized that the people who designed these things were seeing _so_ much farther into the future (in regards to the breadth of applications people would need from it). Now, whenever I'm coding and I feel like the process is overly complicated, my next thought is "I am just a lowly earthworm, and I can't see the big picture of how else this API can be leveraged". Try to go easy on Michaelangelo. He's coding for every possible future. :)
"I was so relieved to hear that this person was black and transgender-lesbian" XDDDDD 10/10
for real lol , thats 2020 for ya, Hiring diversity instead of real work individuals and hiring based on favoritism
Luis Salinas what am i doing wrong 😭
That was the best part.
Transracial and transgender
This was really funny but also terrifying at the same time.
Watching this a month later and “the pointer is not pointing” still has me in stitches 🤣
Many folks watching this video probably think he is exaggerating the types to be funny or make a point. If anything, he understates them.
which one are you ?
._.
I do feel bad for the H1B1 visa's. They do so much work and get little recognition other than, you get to stay here with the promise of getting a permanent visa.
@@alphach1mp reality H1B1 temporary reality later discard
Someone give this man an Oscar
Lmaoooo
He needs a Nobel Prize, not an Oscar
"No Code Low Code Movement" needs to be a tshirt.
Great idea
"Faster languages like Python." That one got me
Faster to write, eh?
faster development time
Same here
I suppose he means faster to write, not that it executes faster.
@@TehIdiotOne I'm sorry but that's relative
The manager programmer with the ipad is soooo true in any industry. People want to promote themselves and manage others to gain power and respect instead of doing actual work... TechLead nailed that one
Big 4's are full of these kind of "programmers" . . . and also the H1B's.
"There are only 2 types of programmers, the techlead and everyone else." - anonymous millionaire
That's what I was expecting this video to be.
- anonymous millionaire (as a Millionaire)
FTFY "There are 10 types of programmers, the techlead and not"
anonymous ex-Google, ex- Facebook tech lead millionaire
Those who have wrote compilers, and those who have not.
I known this is a joke but I honestly wouldn't be shocked this is the reality: - The level of education even in the brightest schools is such a disaster. - Companies expect too much coding experience from an intern & often force them into non-coding tasks holding back their development. - New programmers receive little to no mentorship ones in the field. That could speedup there productivity in the long run. - Programmers are pushed into learning ancient technologies by dinosaurs and then receive the blame on bad productivity. - Programmers are usually hired during a project shitshow instead of before or when the project is on schedule. There very few companies where the management is actually on point.
Well than I must be lucky! My internship was to create a website with C# using the MVC framework. All data was to be called and stored in a SQL database and executed with stored procedures. It was an absolute blast! They hired me after. My first actual big project, I had a real pro as a mentor. Me and this French guy built a datawarehouse from scratch. He would create first stored procedure, and I'd model the others off of his template. As I grew, I leaned on him less and less. He was a great mentor like that! He only helped me when I actually needed it. Lots of code reviews. Now I'm standing on my own 2 feet as a data engineer and couldn't be happier :) I really hope that lots of people have experiences like mine.
@@CitAllHearItAll Oh wow, that's like a dream of a first project.
Need to increase the volume on that lost point.
" wouldn't be shocked this is the reality" - reality is that any of these items would be considered as not being qualified to do the work. Result: you get replaced - and quick. Suggestion: figure it out, don't complain, get the job done (as there are no excuses).
@@CitAllHearItAll Having good mentors at work makes a huge difference, I have been lucky to have a few in my career.
10:58 "They like working in the dark, they don't need Windows or sunlight" - I don't know if this pun was intentional but I love it.
Facts lol
they both were bud Sun Java Plug-in Downloads - Oracle
java lite / sun oracle aka bill gates
11:01 "They don't really need WINDOWS or sunlight" lol
that one hit home. I was behind this term by like a week cause I was trying to get arch running on my laptop
I spent days trying to install fedora. Wifi adapter lacked drivers, and there was no ethernet in the office at the time, so had to tether mobile internet through Bluetooth to install drivers there. Lol I am a nocturnal animal too...
@@inordirection_ arch linux , wifi and laptop sleep
lmao
"the low code/no code movement" - brilliant ;D
🤣
I’m a part of this movement
I also subscribe to this point of view. Low code/no code ftw!
What about the "full stack programmer" who can't figure out css because he's too good for it?
This hits too close to home... I feel offended :D
Pretty accurate. After awhile writing backend I actually forgot how css selectors work :D
not gonna lie, i just copy all my css designs, then modify them. CSS is just trial and error til it looks good and works :D
"css isn't programming, it doesn't count"
damn, this hurts my soul...
don't forget "The Super Architect" - they fill every surface of the office with diagrams and when asked to build a CRUD API for internal use, set up a kubernetes cluster with six containers, three new SNS topics, use at least four different programming languages but put most of the actual logic in shell scripts, but its full of bugs, theres no documentation, and noone can seem to find the credentials needed to debug any part of it
I wonder what your type is...lol
" but its full of bugs, theres no documentation," - that is done for job security purposes
this guy speaks english, but I only recognize some of the words he's using
Hey, at least they can code. Even if it's just Shell Scripting. When I tried to hire *Software* Architects, I kept getting these "Enterprise Architect" bozos who don't actually do any Enterprise Architecture, but tell the programmers what to do instead. I'd always start the call with, "this is a Software Engineering position and you will be expected to code". They always acknowledge the statement and we proceed forward. Only to have them announce that they're "an Architect and don't know how to code" as soon as we get to the technical questions. Absolute BOZOs.
My company just hired 3 people like that. (instead of promoting me to an Architect position). These fuckers immediately started building a kubernetes cluster...
What about the condescending programmers that always think everyone else can't code and when ever you ask them for help or to look at your code they will constantly remind you how stupid you are and how much better they are.
The pseudo-dinosaur programmers (software engineer wannabes)... because they actually don't know that much to begin with
sp basically the assholes
Thats the guy who made the video.
are you talking about xxtechlead?
heyy, that was me. I am changed now though :D
Maxine is actually the chief diversity officer at FB.
That makes it funnier.
@@JulianZehr How are you verified?
i hear she's fired tho hahaha
@@PhatOof He edited the HTML Code
Atu Oma 😂 she just got promoted actually
You actually deserve an Academy award for this video. I have never laughed so hard in such a long time. Thank you very much.
You need a scene where something breaks that only the fired old-timer knows how to fix, so 10 people have to spend a couple months figuring it out or making things worse.
Dinosaurs have their uses and know the game better than anyone else.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the production value here? Script, characters, depth...might be my favorite video from TechLead!
This is brilliant! One comes to mind that you missed though. The opposite of the Dinosaur. The dev who always wants to completely re-do the whole application in whatever the trendiest new framework is that day/week.
Or whatever they just spent their most recent study investment learning a language, because now it’s the only correct hammer!
I used to be that guy lmao
Delphi programmers
+1
I am probably the dinosaur lmfsao. Typical day "The code works Bob. It works Bob. The company won't pay for a rebuild." Bob replies "It will be much better if we redo all the backend in ". I am not even that old lmfsao
1. H1B Programmer 0:38 2. Diversity Hire 2:35 3. Pair Programmer 5:11 4. The Script Kiddie 6:47 5. The Model 8:51 6. The Linux 9:38 7. The Intern 11:08 8. The "Manager" Programmer 12:26 9. The Dinosaur 14:27 10.The "KZheadr" Programmer 16:48 All list if you interest :D
What is h1b
@@wongkingshun its a us visa for employees
Thanks
moral of the story, it seems that only the H1B is doing "real" work.
@@Bobxchen333 exactly 💯
Wow, I'm coming from a totally different industry and yet these apply quite accurately to several people I have worked with. Fun video and I always love your dead pan delivery!
Tech Lead is so tall people still look up to him while he's taking a knee...
We might have same brain. Wait i know more programming language than you do. He he huaaa ha ha ha
LOL
I noticed that too lol
Pointer is not pointing, Boss! In Java! That's my type of joke
Is there a show like this? Like, the Office, but with programmers 🤣
Silicon Valley
Well checkout "Dilbert"
IT Crowd
“hey hey I’m black and transgender lesbian” this is literally how all job applications are gonna look like in a few years
This is how all job applications look right now.
You could lie and say your gay
"we want n percent of higher up managers to be black" but why?
not in the uk at least. you can't put descriptive details on your cv, not even a photo or area in which you live
@@intellectualhybrid2 well thats pog
you missed one, God Code, the developer that wants to do everything and just doesn't let the other team members work on stuff that they haven't work on
I’m scared this will be me..... I don’t want to be this
I was kinda that guy
'No code movement' and 'Building a button' killed me 😂
Why they think CSS is coding?
@@matyilagoodwish I'm pretty sure the joke was not that CSS "isn't coding." He said he was going to skip over the coding using Dreamweaver, even though CSS is probably one of the easier things in programming to understand.
i actually get some ads like "no-code is continuing to grow" or something like that lol
"completely automated using HTML technologies" haha that killed me
Linux guy" "We're right on schedule, we're a few weeks behind actually" -- lol
"You're just a basic Asian male" 💀
😂😂😂😂
lol damnnn
To tears! TechLead is now above and beyond. No way a tech channel is this funny and useful at the same time. A whole new level. A milestone has been reached.
I see that most of my engineer and scientist friends can't/don't code. Of course, they tell me that "that's for programmers and this isn't in my specialty" . I call B.S. to that. I'm an electrical engineer and while I don't write software to sell, I code nearly every day because I need that to analyze data and automate testing. I think knowing how to code is the new literacy.
Same...except one of my colleagues showed me and it was so easy that it was annoying. Doing that everyday isn't inticing. It probably depends on the type of coding, maybe.
@@twincherry4958 I don't find coding to be super easy. But then again, I'm writing fairly complex GUI code for performing analysis. Things break in weird ways but ultimately I think it's rewarding and I like mastering the toolset.
So you don't ship any code? YOU'RE FIRED!!!!1111
writing code in python using others programmers libs and framework is not programming, it's just playing at legos.
@@iM7SnaKe Really??? I might misunderstand you but are you saying I shouldn't use established APIs and/or libraries and should I code them all myself???? Again, I might have misunderstood you but if not: Look, I'm an engineer with >20years experience and I do realize that spending precious time and money redoing work that's already been done i.e. "reinventing wheels" is a terrible use of time with the exception of doing exercises to self-train and learn. There are already a great plenty of things to put my time on which haven't been done. Let's take an example: PyQt, a GUI API for Python. Or how about Matplotlib, a plotting and charting library for Python, or Qt, a C++ API for creating GUI-driven software in C++, or Eigen, a C++ library for numerical matrix and simultaneous equations computations, or .... the list is almost endless. In fact, if you hate using other programmers' APIs and/or, why not just create the perfect programming language and write your own perfect, super-optimizing compiler. In fact, I wish someone would write a full-on compiler for Python with a modified Python that has strong typing.
There are 10 types of programmers; those that understand binary and those that dont.
Johan Larsson : *pastes an old joke* yoshi yolo : Imma end this joke's whole career
There are 01 types of programmers: those that think this joke would be about endianness.
@@terryriley6410 I have to say, that was an unexpected one
@@terryriley6410 Nice one :)
It actually took me a couple seconds.
8:26 Sounds like someone we know ("Maths degree -> bootcamp -> Google Job)
Use promote code Clem for the discount on the platform
Who’s the person?
The Linux guy is basically panicking inside while trying to look good at the same time. Poor thing 😂 so relatable
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
so heartbreaking to see he packaged everything but now the mouse and graphic driver are acting up! 😂
The diversity hire had me crying, "ima black lesbian transgender" , Oh really forget if you have any skill your racial, and sexual identity is the most important thing for a job!
"Oh, so are you gay?" "Yes" :)
@@avgonyma1 Lesbian transgender is a straight black person, im confused too
The actual diversity lead (if she still is) at FB is black and lesbian. Her name might be Maxine as well so this feels more like a swipe
@@kowboy702 No Way! Really? I thought it was just jokes
If I say this do I get a chance at specially being issued an h1b?
I have been watching you since I started my coding journey and I have to say this is the most unique video you have crafted. I always respected you as a programmer but now even more so as a human. This video was great. ✌
"I just need to rebuild this from scratch using the make files."
That got me too
That's describes me perfectly lol
At least it is free.
"I'm using Debian". "For arch"
@@luisff7030 Free, if your time has no value.
Now this is why he is THE TechLead. Keeping it not PC, totally the right move.
And he is also a con-artist who take advantage of gullible fools
OMG..Your videos and scenarios of different types of programmers is so accurate!!
One of my favorite episode of the TechLead Show. 10/10 on IMDB.
One more type: "When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail"-guy, who tries to use latest tech he learnt about on conferences everywhere
I am getting the feeling that up to now the channel was just a warm-up that is now going to take off as one of the most entertaining shows ever made! Even getting hired by facebook was just part of the plan for this channel!
He does have a lot of talent, and now he's displaying solid writing chops. I am looking forward to more videos like this.
"The pointer is not pointing" hahaha you got me there .. I did not expect a joke there hahahaha
usually i don't stick around that long for a video, but this is really entertaining to watch! great content
If you continue like this, I swear I'm not paying my next netflix subscription lol
"I'm part of the low code/no code movement" as soon as my last company's leadership said those same words, I bailed. I will not be tethered to failure, lol.
ye gotta watch those marketing assholes who try to sell leadership on this garbage. Thankfully our leadership understands to not listen to those marketing people anymore because they heard it before and they ended up learning the hard way what happens when you try to use business analysts posing as developers compared to "real" developers. Apparently a bunch of people i work with were told many of the things they were asking for were not possible yet once you bypass the nocode/lowcode tools you can pretty much do whatever you want, it's just that none of the people had any idea how to actually properly develop anything.
Safe software always comes out of randoms with no experience pumping out code with Scratch-like tools
Thank you. I love your channel. I am an EE who did NOT go the coding route, and I'm constantly second guessing myself. I appreciate knowing about the real coding world I'm missing out on in Silicon Valley. I do hardware and make guitar pedals. I never stop asking myself if I should have kept at it with the coding. Cheers from the East Coast.
Learn the JUCE framework with c++… you can make vst/au guitar pedals
I love how all of them either aren't writing anything or are writing unusable code
I've just met the manager type. I was a working student and he was already >5 years in this company. He always talked to students, interns and so on and had many meetings along the day. Once, he faced a problem, I gave him a quick lesson in Python for about an hour. Even the bad students in our university were better than this guy.
"This technology comes and goes. You know what doesn't come and go? Me." TechLaid
This video is simply a Master Piece!!!! I've watched it about 3 times and it's always funny to rewatch
4 th time
7:50 "Turning this PhotoShop mock into a web page, completely automated using HTML technologies.." LmAO 😂😂🤣🤣
Thats how pages were built back in the day. It was a nightmare
@@CebrailErdogan You still see it with framework generated vomit... Right click, view source, get blasted in the face with minified garbage that would summon cthulu if spoken aloud...
Using Dreamweaver! God I almost die-DW is 90s crapware. And UX don’t even use Photoshop anymore, omg it’s so good. Burn!
I had a few pupils like that... They weren't happy when they got back their grades...
Tech Lead ended up firing the only guy who was writing some code hahah Idk what that tells us about this industry
"How to make a sandwich ?" Well as a ex-google ex-Facebook employee....
You made my day
*millionaire ex-google ex-Facebook
"The pointer is not pointing" 😂
"they like working in the dark, they don't need Windows or sunlight" Great one!!! :D
yh, bst one
“Im a lesbian transgender” lmfaooo
He just won there. Haha
I'm actually lesbian transgender...
@@Emily-fm7pt me too!
and trans-black
A Aron gotta love that trans racial trans lesbian developer.
This has to be your best video to date! I really enjoy all your videos and value your reflections, but this is the funniest video of them all. It's a sad fun though, as most of us can relate to these characters.
"We are few weeks behind the schedule, I am still trying to install the Linux" - :DD
lol, I'm actually scared to try putting it on a M1 Mac. I'll try next year.
LMAOOOOOO the diversity officer scene was so funny but the undertones were a sad truth.
He was the wrong color, gender and sexual orientation... Until he explained things for us 😂😂😂😂😂
Hollywood is missing a star here
I've been on the fence about subscribing for a long time. I just came across this video and I'm in tears lol. This video is probably one of the funniest things I've seen on youtube, or almost anywhere, for quite a while. You earned this subscription five times over.
Great video man! Love it! You crushed this one... best video yet! :)
Tech Lead: Former Script Kiddy Former Intern Former H-1B Former Manager Has Maths Degree Did a 3 Month Bootcamp Uses Linux (sometimes) Aspires to be a model Ineligible to be 'Diversity' Officer Closer to 'Old Timer' than he cares to admit
Uses Linux? He re-made it himself from scratch!
I saw the intro, thought this was gonna be a serious video 1 minute later: H1B gag about slave work lmao
Same here
It's not really a gag. Because it is true
At Intel, there was a very nasty handling of a team of H1B engineers. Early 90's Pentium project. Two decades later little changes. From the book Inside Intel, Tim Jackson
SAME lolol
The 10 types of programmers you'll encounter: those that actually write code, and those that dont.
Based on my short-lived college experience, I definitely feel like a Pair Programmer who never had a partner. I actually found this video while trying to look up videos of people explaining open source game code. I'm starting to doubt they exist, but I'll keep looking.
Random call in Tech Lead office: -Hello, is this Tech Lead? -No! This is Patrick.
Yo, give this man the praise he deserves, this is a masterpiece
The Unix Purist: Insists on using C instead of C++. Does everything in the command line. Makes hundreds of bash scripts. Uses his own C library for everything. Also a conspiracy theorist.
thats literally me , btw c++ is so trash it takes twice the time to compile even the simplest of things. OOP can be implemented in c btw
Genius Programmer aged 13 since when is compile time a indication of anything?
@@notsalman It's an indication that the language is higher level and more distant from machine language. You and the computer both have to do extra work to translate the code. My main issue with C++ is that it has way too many features and it's way too complex. C is great because everyone knows every feature and generally agrees on how to use them. C++ is like the wild west. Everybody has their own way of writing C++. It's great if you're a crack-pot creative type working solo on wacky projects, but not so much if you want to collaborate on down-to-earth stuff.
@@geniusprogrammeraged1359 If it's so bad why is it so widely used? Your logic is flawed.
@ No, yours is. A bandwagon argument? Really?
Loved the command and conquer generals reference.
The amount of political incorrectness is paramount.
I love it
It's so great man.
Well, no one is insulted though. The jokes were made on the positions, not the communities
'the hell does the word paramount mean?
@@edwardkats oh, many people are insulted because they are doing exactly what he's talking about in the video. on twitter people are so offended because it destroys their rosy glasses.
I've been coding for about 40 years now and my resume is about 5 pages long 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Making TechLead do a came towards the end was startling enough. But having letting him take over and finish the video took it to another level.
This is gold content! Thanks TechLead
The satire is wild on this one. Truly enjoyed watching it!
“I’m really excited about the next chapter where I’ll be building a button” amazing
Fantastic video!!! As a kind-of ex-Dinosaur now small TechLead, I really enjoyed a lot this presentation. Kudos for the diversity part, so refreshing. :-D This video made me subscribe to the channel, nuff said.
I'm suprised that your chanel still monetized!!! Congrats and keep working the googd jod. This one was very acuretaed display.
You missed the Junior who thinks they are Senior Devs and try to tell everybody how to do things.
I love how you mix entertainment and humor with high-quality information. It's really rare !
Hands down my best youtube video under Comedy + IT :))) - more of these, please!!!
Wow that was ruthless but great. One of your best yet.
"I'm really into empowering my coworkers to do the work" 😆
this was a completely different video from what i expected, and i love it!😂
The model programmer and the intern just sitting and eating ice cream had me on the floor laughing
thanks for the 4rth wall break at the end by the way. hahahha. love this video !
math degree and staying in bootcamp for three months, sounds like someone
Exactly just wanted to ask if there is a specific reason why he made the skript kiddie a math grad who just went to a coding bootcamp afterwards
Sandro Volonte yep, there is a reason and I believe that TechLead did refer to someone.
who's it about?
@@nicoles_handle AgloExpert
Algo expert ceo clemeant
I only clicked to find out if one of them was "the type who sells your company's interview questions on his KZhead channel."
This is pure gold TechLead :) so very accurate :D
Loved it. This sketch is just priceless.