Is The Sims 4's Gameplay Shallow? In this video, I review the areas in Sims 4 where I see weakness and what could be done to improve the base game by adding depth. Some of my gameplay ideas would definitely make things better for people who crave deeper gameplay and say the newest version of The Sims is not very satisfying.
This video has been planned since the release of Island Living, when I was disappointed with the new career and gameplay in that pack. It took a while to feel capable of editing such a huge video.
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“Adding width without adding depth” was the best way to describe this.
More like removing width and depth to add some shine.
Wait, there was depth? hm, never noticed. i thought it was just another excuse to sell players an inferior game to the previous one and make them rebuy all the DLC again.
This phrase stood out to me. That sums it up perfectly.
EA be like
I agree
remember in Sims 2 when you pissed someone off they would come steal your newspaper or knock your trash can over. and of you didn't pay attention and pick the trash up you'd get roaches.... yeah. those were the days.
Now you get.... trash plants
Even sim1 does the trash ting
and if you step on them you could get a disease that could kill you... damn i miss sims 2
And sims 2 had sims with personality.
oh i remember being so done with everyone knocking my trash can :(
when i played sims 4, i never saw any reason to leave my house. ever. when playing 2 and 3, there's actually incentive in leaving home.
leaving home in sims 3 was also a real treat.
Yes just being playing on console and I've been at home most of the time compared to3
YC L it’s so annoying 😭
I just want to buy a cool car and ride around the town :(
This- 500% I never leave my sims' place. There's no reason to and you have to sit through two loading screens every time
I hate how they bug out everytime they eat and take 5 ingame hours to eat
Order 66 I got a mod to speed up the eating and it only takes my sim around 45 sim minutes to complete the dish
I recently tried the dine out pack, I am really disappointed because I never take my sims to eat because they’ll go for brunch at 10:30am and don’t get back until 6pm, and that’s with one starter. because it takes so long for food to come and takes longer to eat it.
Those sims are on something, it's like the lot of them are either tweakers or zombies.
YES
Lol, I can feel you
What I actually miss are the very, very small details - like in Sims 3 people who sleep turn around every now and then, and when they sleep in a double bed and are a couple they would randomly cuddle each other. It was really cute and gave it another layer of depth. Not just there, but such things happened everywhere but now? just gone.
I love your art channel you have an awesome style 😀
Exactly! :-D I miss this too! When I think about details in Sims, I always remember how I once played Sims2 and I had a very bad blind date with my sim. Blind dates were part of Late Night for Sims2. A lot of my blind dates have been successful, but there was one date which went aweful. I didn't want to give up on that potential partner, so I called this sim over and over again to improve the relationship with it. The sim always was "not available". After a few days I found a written message in my mail box from the sim that said "Please stop calling me." XD I was shocked by the game, that was so unpredictable!
I know right? I was so disappointed the first time i had a couple sleep in the same bed and they never cuddled. Its just one of several examples of them not caring about the small details with Sims 4.
Marie Sophie Pelc this just reminded me of sims2 where I had a couple who split ways after some time because he was cheating on her and because she was so jealous of his new life and mad at him, she kept going to his house and went to steal the newspaper on his porch every single morning. It was ridiculous but that’s what made it really fun
@Pumme My favorite memory from TS3 is probably from my first save. My sim married a light sleeper, and one night he just kept waking up over and over, very annoyingly. But, it stopped when I sent him back to bed and his wife cuddled him. ❤️ This may be a coincidence but I like to think Ava (his wife) soothed his mind and put him in the first deep sleep he’s had in a while. Again, probably a coincidence but it makes me smile thinking about it. I wish this sort of thing happened in TS4
I really dislike the trait system in TS4, like 3 spots for traits? Seriously? What if I want my sim to be cat lover, dance machine vegetarian? Those 3 traits say almost nothing about sims personality. I miss traits like shy, stubborn, overemotional, proper, heavy sleeper etc and their actuall impact on the gameplay.
It doesn't help that the 3 traits you get usually don't do a damn thing. You can look on the Sims Wiki and compare traits side by side and it's legitimately embarrassing how much they stripped away. That and so many other design choices really make me question if these people have any business developing video games.
It also doesn't help that the traits don't really work. When you change a trait, the old traits still give off their effects. The fact that there only a couple of traits that lend to personalities. Also, unless sims have the same traits or evil traits it doesn't effect how they socialize with each other. I kind of miss when sims could be attracted to sims or when zodiac signs changed their mannerisms.
Vegetarian? i use to use that a lot in sims3 but havent seen it as a trait in sims 4 am i missing somthing ? Id love to be able to have that as a trait again :)
@Reina Che that is also why they forget doors and build stairs to nowhere. They don't playtest nearly enough.
@thisismyopinion it’s in city living
I like how they put so much emphasis on the sims being ‘weird’ and ‘quirky’ yet this is one of the most blandest game out of the series
Just like how some of those "quirky" people are...
@@helingunes955 Lol, I was thinking the same thing. This is the equivalent of the I'm-not-like-the-other-girls peeps. 😂
@@lunacouer yes indeed 🤣
Helin Güneş LMFAO
they talked about how great the "emotion system" was. And then it turned out to be the most emotionless game of the franchise.
Spouse died: Sad +4 Beautifully decorated: Happy +3 Needs Filled : Happy +2 Overall: Happy
My daughter and my wife just died within the same week. But hey! At least this carpet looks good and I don't have to take a shower!
@@kiwikiwi2483 Hahaha!
I forgot about the fears in TS2. Damn that’s such a simple addition that could add so much to the game...
I used to find it funny when a sim who had the Family aspiration wanted a baby but also feared having one lol
@@jasmineparisttv That happened when they were unhappy which was totally realistic and I loved it. It happened to my sim recently. She had the 'have 10 kids' want and was popping them out. Baby no.6 happened to come after she'd been up all night with the toddler-aged twins. Her needs were low, her wants and fears rolled and Bam! Have a baby swapped from a want to a fear. Bam! Now in labour. She has the baby, hands it off to her husband and colapses into a heap on the ground. A therapist comes to help her through it. All of this was so much more interesting to watch and play that the sims 4 and wow my sim has a whim to look at some art....again. So exciting.
Count Rye the sims 2 is such a good game gameplay wise
@@sabinajoh it really is. One of sims i played recently kept losing his job because of chance cards. It was so much more challenging
even pets have fears, but sims don't 🤷
The Sims 2 had the best relationship system: attractiveness traits, one-sided relationships, common interests, long and short term relationship bars, more and better interactions between sims. Sims felt more like real people back then :(
and the memories were a nice little touch even if they didn't serve a function
So glad other people noticed that too about Sims 2
Agreed. Always feel like a creep when I make an attractive sim for my fav sim and pretend that they met and fell in love. It could've been any other sim that became their 'soulmate'
Yes! Loved the sims 2. Now all it is is collecting things, fish, plants etc. Less about who is attracted to who or who is your enemy or best friend...
I remember when I only stopped playing TS3 after my eyes started hurting and would decide to let my eyes rest but not even five minutes after I’d be back at it again. I was addicted. And now I open TS4 look at the main menu, decide that it always gets boring and close it immediately.
Omg..... i've literally done all of the things you mentioned. Insane how many of us has the same experience.
Ghefira K. Yeah. It is.
I do the same thing with ts4. I just know I won't be satisfied
EXACTLY
LMAO that is what im doing right now. Have TS4 menu up and im like "Eh do i even wanna play this right now tho?" its almost like this version is only fun if im way too stoned, and that gets expensive. lol.
I honestly miss having my house broken into. I loved those random events.
Same here! I still have anxiety about my Sims' houses being robbed. Shame it never happens anymore. :P
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ah yes I love having a double bed and shower stolen from me. epic
I know you were talking about robbers but I agree completely and think the sentiment also applies to vampires. People kept complaining about vamps breaking in (even though that's literally what vampires do??) and the game devs made it so break-ins basically don't happen. I was looking forward to unpredictable break-ins, but I've only ever gotten like 3 attempts in many, MANY hours of playing, and every attempt "just so happened" to occur when I had a sim awake, so the vamp turned around and left. I've never even had a single sim called by Vlad, and he used to be notorious for being a pest. Wish people had just locked their doors and not complained, because it really killed a major aspect of the pack. Especially because people thought it was too creepy and invasive, when a) vampires literally feed on people, that's like the whole point, so why download a pack with vampires if you don't want that going on? and b) I don't understand how the vampires are considered morally inexcusable when we literally have alien abductions making our sims pregnant without their consent. If there was a gameplay feature to get rid of, I think it should have been that...
Elizabeth Hinton Yeah like sometimes I like when Vamps break in when I’m actually playing with that pack (which is less than 2%) but other than that it sucks who wants a vamp breaking into their sims house and biting their necks? I would rather have a human come in and steal some furniture rather than a creepy old guy biting necks ._. Like you said I wish that could’ve been an option to turn off break in but its just weird and about people buying the pack we just don’t buy packs for vamps we also buy packs for the clothes and furniture not really for the gameplay ya know so yea
i used to play the sims 2 or the sims 3 for hours, for DAYS even. but now i play the sims 4 for a few hours and i get bored
Spaco Little exactly!
A few hours you last so much so much longer than me.
@@lance9249 it's because i just got some expansion packs, but even that didn't make me play for long...
Agreed. I played the sims 3 for weeks, getting totally hooked, but when a got the sims 4, I played for a total of 7 hours up until I reopened it yesterday.
I just stopped playing all together and watch play throughs. Every pack lacks depth and is so boring
Remember when in sims 2 if something bad happens you mostly get a memory of that bad thing? to remind you that happen and can affect the growing of your sims? Remember when in sims 3 if your kids don't grow good they get a random bad trait? Sims 4 is too perfect, anything bad happen "my dad died? who's care? the decoration in this room makes me feel playful" there's no real impact on the development of your sims, they act like anything happen, come on, sin sims 4 you cheat someone and yeah the one you cheated on dropped it's relationship with you but not the one you cheated (example: i tried to make eliza cheat on bob with my sims, but only eliza dropped her relationship with bob, my sim was still best friend with bob lol)
I low-key want a mod for this tbh at this point
Tanjim Ahmed the slice of life mod has a similar memory system
THIS
So true, moodlets could've functioned as short-term memories instead of competing against one another to express a single emotion. Over time in 2, (maybe after a day or so), Sims would stop crying, especially if they got more good memories quickly. Sometimes it was a little annoying when they cried after wetting their pants for several hours, but they could easily just make it seem like Sims were embarrassed now, maybe keeping the emotions system less in your face, but present nonetheless.
Sims 2 was ridiculous when Sims cried over burning a grilled cheese sandwich 5 years ago but it was great when they were thinking about something legitimately traumatic. I feel like overall they've taken away as many scary things as possible. No burglars. Only one toddler goes away if you mistreat them.
Reading these comments and seeing this video makes me feel like i’m less crazy for always being so bummed about the Sims 4 and constantly being nostalgic abt TS3. that game and the expansions, even though they were buggy, had me so immersed. It still had a funky little edge to it and felt relatable. The sims 4 is like, a brainwashed utopia version of sims and i’m really over it :(
I'm in agreement. As the creator, the response to this video has been incredible but it's also relieving to know that I'm not in some niche to feel this way. Plenty of people dislike several things about it, some of them major, but carry on thanks to other features and mods that can keep them going. I was really nervous to put this one out but talking with so many people has been nice and I am thankful you took the time to watch it.
Yeah and with the Nraas Mod you could move to other neighborhoods which was really immersive in case you got tired of living in one town for 3 generations or so
@Axel Drans See i was not with you at the start but i read it all and im in agreement, like hell the complete collection of sims 2 deleted all the towns, in the end i just made my own then made a family in the open for buisness sub town my main home still alot fo fun tho i missed the lil cutscenes so much they add so much personality. Sims 3 looks janky/bland but is so stuffed and keeps you going and enjoying through long term goals, sims 3 stil has teh absolute best vacation pack. All sims 4 has is a shiny coat of paint, i desperately want to like it i even have a few generations old family that i played, but its just so hard to keep going i really need to get one the packs like seasons.
Even KZhead Sims LPers who praise the game to all ends will randomly be yelling at their adult sims for leaving food half-cooked on the stove, or watching a toddler almost starve because it didn't go pick up a plate of food as directed, and instead went to take a nap. It's not a niche feeling to have issues with Sims 4, it's a fact of life, just some people don't seem to be properly aware of it.
I only played sims 1 and sims 4 but i still feel ya. Thinking about those salad fires still cracks me up.
I feel like emotions felt deeper in the Sims 2 even. Remember when something bad happened and your sim would think of it all the time and mention it in conversations as indicated by the speech bubbles...
EA nerfed emotions due to the people asking to.
@@alandunaway3000 and then they made it the whole concept around the sims 4 while also somehow nerfing those emotions in game too.
@@katieburkman3981 Yeah, because users asked to.
Damn users, there’s just no making them happy
Sims 4 needs a GRAVEYARD so I can turn aging on for whole world and not worry about a sim dying off screen and leaving no gravestone.
Yes and be able to feel less sad by getting the stone to the graveyard
You’re so right! this needs to be added
now they might add a new Sims pack, Graves and ghouls!
Exactly. I'm tired of hoarding gravestones and urns in my sims houses..plus the urns are HUGE 😂😂
Thing I miss the most!
I remember in TS2 when one sim was mad at another, they would be SO mad they didn't even want to look at that sim for quite a while. There would be a red filter on the offending sim's portrait in the relationship panel, and every time the sim that was mad got near the other, they would have flames coming up out of their head! Lol TS2 sims might not have had a fancy emotion system, but it was clear most of the time how they were feeling and what they wanted. Imagine how much less tumultuous the Pleasant household would have been if a couple of nice paintings could fix the problems between Lilith and Angela Pleasant. It would also have been boring as all get out.
You've got a good point there, it's not like other games lacked emotion entirely I guess they just expressed it differently. I actually didn't have a lot of experience with Sims 2. I was broke and my PC was too old for it. I should probably experience it sometime. Looks pretty nice with mods.
Carl's The Sims Guides you don’t need mods for the sims 2. It’s an amazing game all on its own. Even the base game is playable for days on end
And when you play on the hated Sims household, the other Sim will come by and kick over their trashcans at night and cause a roach infestation in the morning or steal their newspapers. And then they badmouth the person to their friends which results in their friends thinking negatively of that person. Sims 2 had the best relationship system, in my opinion
They would also steal your newspaper, kick your trash and destroy your garden gnomes if they didn't like you!
Also TS2 has better autonomy. And I always feel every sims has different personality. It was so interesting to play back then.
How COME WHEN ONE OF MY SIMS IS IN THE FRIDGE THE OTHER SIM CANCELS THE ACTON. THEY WAITED IN THE SIMS 3 why CANT THEY WAIT NOW UGH
XD so much this
turn off the autonomy thing in settings
But why can't AI say WAIT? also the OBSESSION with grills
@@candystrobel1933 Grills? What about their freaking water drinking addictions!
@@diamonddog2638 I just don't understand why the water glasses start to stink
I also feel like they need to look into bringing back the "going grocery shopping" aspect. It's frustrating having to buy seed packs and hoping you get the right ingredients.
I LOVED going grocery shopping, it added so much flavor to the Sims 2
Theres a mod by SrslySims called "Complete Food Override" it adds groceries and all that jazz back into the game. You should look into it. I love it. ❣️❣️
Gummi-Bear Nikole thank for the recommendation
@@skeletonman1126 nor could I if I'm being honest.
Carla Smit I’d like that too. But it be pretty useless since sims can just lay at a frig.
Sims 1, 2, and 3 are games. Sims 4 is a product.
Describes the underlying problem with most media now.
Oh god, what a great explanation, YES. THIS.
As are most 'games' these days, sadly. It's all about the cheap cash-grab now.
perfectly put.
I think even Neil Breen himself agrees with this comment.
I miss: -,the small videos from TS2 when something big happened in the simmer’s life - memories from TS2 - The visit from the headmaster when wanting the kids to go to Private School
The small videos are called cutscenes
One thing messing up the game is the autonomy. Sims tend to have permanent ADHD and will not do anything for longer than a minute without moving on to something else. Another thing, sims can't eat a meal and chat without stopping to get up and hug the sim they start a conversation with and unless you are constantly feeding them things to say to the sim they're talking to, no friendship is gained.
Memoirs Of A Mariah or when they keep going to get water or go to the computer
Ikr. The hug thing only came to be recently. I hate it
Or they don’t know how to sleep and instead nap
"unless you are constantly feeding them things to say to the sim they're talking to, no friendship is gained" ... but they might put in a rude social choice at random, even with autonomy fully turned off, because the conversation system is trash. So now your sims have lost friendship, or if it was a flirty action between a pair you don't want doing that, things are now really off the rails.
my personal opinion is that sims 4 emphasizes aesthetics over game-play .. which is why builder sims make beautiful buildings and emphatically state that they rarely actually play the game.
James Fahs yeah it defiantly favours builders instead of people who actually play the game
James Fahs exactly, and the few people to actually use gameplay are always telling you a story but never showing it in game since there’s not much to actually do in the game.
James Fahs that and the aesthetics aren’t even that great. in TS4 there are so many things that should’ve existed in the original base game. it would b great to have objects that actually change gameplay rather than just “environment 1”. i know there’s laundry day and those packs, but different things should have different interactions. i think it would be cool to have a teenager popping pimples in their room, or being indecisive over outfits. what if sims cleaned their room?
I'm a builder and I want both!
I’m mainly a builder and as much as I like building in ts4, I just want my damn create a style back. I genuinely don’t understand why the latest generation game is more limited then it’s predecessor.
The thing I miss the most is the relationships between pre-made sims. I was one of those players who loved pre-made sims and their lore and how every character had unique relationships with one another. But now the neighbours don't even know each other! What's worse, family members barely know each other! Every single relationship is the same and they're all decaying so fast! It's awful! Why should I be invested in characters if they're not invested in each other?
Yes, and because of how the worlds work in TS4 we are getting so few lots and households aswell vs. having a town full of sims with backstories/relationships.
I LOVED the family and neighbor drama in the sims 2 and getting my sim involved
I really want something that can make other sims live their lives. Like getting pregnant or starting new relationships, but I think it might be hard to do, because not all players want this in their game. But maybe it can be not random, like you could suggest other sim get to know somebody, maybe you could do more.
Victoria Мakhno I know you shouldn’t have to use a mod for this, but the reason I love MC Command Center so much is that it has Sims get married, adopt, have babies, in the background. It makes my worlds feel more dynamic.
Strangetown is the best premade neighborhood, change my mind
I'd love one-sided relationships. For example; I have one of my sims that is supposed to be madly in love with her best friend but he's just not interested in something more than friendship. Right now that is impossible. She would try to romance him and he'll likely respond positively to her flirting. They'd both gain the romance relationship bar. Sigh...
This was something totally possible in TS2. If simA had turn ons that matched simB but simB's turn ons were different or their turn off was something simA had, then their relationship would be really skewed. One would get a crush or fall in love waaay before the other and high-level interactions simA wanted to do would be rejected by simB because in their eyes the relationship isn't there yet.
@@countrye3013 YES! This is a major feature that would make so much difference!!
Wicked Whims has a similar feature, it's called Attractivness.
@@Oozaru85 Tried it, not similar at all. The attractiveness feature is highly unpolished and needs a lot more work before it's useable in my opinion. I am open to using mods (my poor mod folder would tell you so) so if you have any other suggestion please send my way :)
@@HowDareYou_IamAGoose One way you can get around that is by cheating the relationship level of simA to a certain number (1-100) and it should only affect simA while leaving simB alone. Doesn't solve the flirting thing, but at least you'd have the visualization?
Normal people: Getting married Carl: *Achieving spouse*
a true intelectual
Didn't he say a cheating spouse?
The game is also missing lore Remember back in sims 2 where you would look in a family tree and see what went down with a family story? Maybe someones grave would be strangely placed and you would have to discover who killed them? Or the fact that the town stories used to be actually linked? Like people would be related but be seperate households? They need to make the sims have story again
Agree. The Sims 4 is just like blank canvas.
It would help if they went back to the original timeline, becaus esims 4 is supposed to be an alternate, event ho that really wasent needed, they could have tried harder to make th egoths and langraabs look like they did in the past
Wait what?? You could do like a murder mystery in the sims 2?!
@@Mimyakko there are premade ones. The ex wife of buzz grunt in strangetown is buried in the Specter family lot. She is the only one who remembers her dying, buzz will only get the memory of her dead if he sees her grave in the specter garden
THIS!!!! the most in depth story that sims 4 has is johnny being disowned
The fact that most of us can’t play the game without mods to enjoy it or make it more realistic, really makes it useless and unsatisfying to play
Well I play on Xbox so I can’t get mods, it’s really frustrating though! But I love sims and nothing will stop me, and atleast content is getting better!
yeah I hate to use mods, but they are needed because otherwise, with no native story progression is like playing in a still world, I get some people like to control every household, but they are a niche minority, story progression is needed, just allow to turn it off for those few who dislike it and want to control every little detail.-
the sad part is you are right and what's really bad that the other two games I never actually mod in The Sims 3 I only added some furniture but nothing else The Sims 4 I have tons of mods on as well as I have ability to have new types of businesses and jobs
Plus the fact even with mods it's too bland and it's a loading screen simulator. I can't believe people waste their life away on watching a loading screen and praying the game wont crash. Even with that wtf do you even play in it. You're better off getting a real life doll house and play Barbie and Ken since that offers far more then this overpriced garbage game.
I can’t play without custom content and mccc. It’s so boring without the two
I really miss sims 3 lifetime wishes like ‘gold digger’ - see the ghost of a dead spouse. So much more depth beyond even just the traits of the sim.
this isnt a hate or anything ( im new to sims ) but if players are complaining about sims 4 why cant they just just play sims 3? again im just curious
Mauren Each sims game is supposed to be an improvement from the last one. The sims 3 has a lot of lag and glitches so when the Sims 4 ran a lot faster I was really excited for it. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want it to be an improvement from previous gameplay as well as aesthetics, etc. As someone who has been supporting the sims since Sims 1, I was just disappointed. 💔
@@casforsyth Ohhh now i get it. Dangg so it means they ruined their own game😕
Mauren yeah 😢💙
@@nilooren They just didn't care enough to do a good job.
I'd love for the Sims to have more interactions with their babies like play mats or strollers. Even something simple like being able to hold a baby while cooking or watching tv
yesss😭
I mean even in the sims 3, the trait "over emotional" boosted positive moodlets as well as boosted negative ones :P
I'm still playing Sims 3 after all of these years and I honestly don't regret not buying Sims 4. Other than Create A Sim and Build Mode, there's nothing special...
But in TS4 that would just get them killed from being too angry or hysterical.
Needs hobbies, interests and better autonomy too... like this guy likes chess so he does that more than other things and is happy to talk about chess to people too, which annoys those that don't like chess at all, etc. Fluid and dynamic ways to make sure not all sims get along and natural friendships form by themselves. Right now you can do whatever you want with whoever you want and so every sim is just the same and the only difference is the way they look. The difference should be in the way they behave.
make the traits do something instead of be just a word... I mean an evil cup coffee?
If i have a Geek sim and a Loves Outdoor sim, both of them will autonomously stray towards computers/chess table. This shoudn't happen!! Geek sim autonomously should stray toward computer/video game system (and maybe if they also have a book worm trait they pick up a gaming skill book?). Loves Outdoors sim autonomously should head for the back yard to garden, or sit in a lawn chair, or prefer to read a book outside.
Yeah literally I wanted to make the game interesting by making an evil vampire character that’s evil toward everyone and the game automatically makes him nice to people unless I actually go and choose his actions :/ and other than that, there’s literally nothing to do in the world.
I completely agree. Having a trait should effect a sims desires and asperations. If your sim is a music lover, then listening to music or playing an instrument should take priority when they randomly choose to do something fun. You shouldn't have to FORCE them to do the thing they are supposed to like. Why does my music lover want to paint, play video games or troll the forums more that do something musical?
@@skyfullofmaggots6837 yeah I really resent this too, as someone who has a hard time making her sims *act* evil, it would be really helpful if evil sims acted autonomously evil. It would add conflict and depth to my game without the need to feel bad when I'm making my evil sims mistreat others with specific actions.
WE NEED MEMORIES. Right now whatever I do in Sims 4 it doesn't feel impactful.
I started to take pictures of things I thought would be lifelong memories. Weddings, going to college, finding mr. right, a grandmother teaching her toddler granddaughter numbers. That kind of stuff you can actually see in game. Yes we have the snapshot button but who really looks at the album. Not our sims that’s for sure. So picture frames are the best we have for that rn.
I also miss memories sooo much
I did find in the Parenting Pack, it pops up with remembering a loved one as a sim is doing something. It does nothing right now, but even putting in a Happy emotion or a sad emotion when the sim has died, an angry emotion when the last interaction with that sim was bad, would help.
Gurkan Hot I really liked the sims 2 memories, not so much the sims 3
Here's another small idea... When in CAS; Elders, Vampires and Mermaids have a tendency to do actions that are quite repetitive and irritating. Elders crick their backs, vampires hiss and mermaids laugh. Now it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't do it SO DAMN MUCH but I'm trying to work on making a good looking Vampire Female and she keeps doing this irritating hissing and it just gets annoying after the 15th time. Elders are the same since they constantly crick their backs and mermaids do this giggle (however, I can simply edit him or her outside of mermaid mode so it isn't so bad). I think that EA should lower the number of times that they hiss, crick their backs and laugh while editing in CAS.
100% agree, I've literally rage quit over sims not stand still in CAS. I know there is a cheat that makes them stand still but I can never remember it when I need it!
Don't even get me started on pets. I had to get rid of dogs in my game because of their constant (and loud, louder than other sounds!) Barking. I freaking love dogs but I actually got a headache :(
Stand Still in CAS.
There's a command in the DeBug menu that makes them stand still and quiet
and spellcasters do the magic orb thing. that annoys me bc sometimes i cant even reach and click the clothes.
Sims 4 feels like a recreational drug, all flashy and fancy, but the game leaves you empty till the next dlc/hit where you think itll be better... Then it just keeps going. You can use flavours/mods, but it's still the same substance. The older sim games feels like good food in comparison. They feel sustaining and satisfying.
Oof
Chemistry and Personalities is what I miss most. Also events that make the Sims exciting like burglars and npcs.
and that one random firefighter that would stand and watch evrything burn that was annoying but funny too :D :D
And being able to set the difficulty!
As a simmer that is more of a family style player, the lack of affection and emotional connection is a huge struggle. All of my sims have elaborate backstories and personalities in my head that simply do not translate in the gameplay. I know it's possible because I've been playing since TS1 but it's completely not there. I agree with a lot said in the video that would help TS4 but I truly believe that at this point it won't happen. Something as simple as adding the attraction system, more traits, and wants and fears will go a long way. We need more individuality implemented because simply every sim is the same.
I totally agree. I also like to make up stories for my Sims which only results in disappointment when I have to suspend my disbelief too much. But then again, I think it was never really completely possible, since there would have been way to many variables to implement. Or did you have an easier time roleplaying in a prior game?
@@StevenoftheDead I guess it was the interactions, mostly when I played TS2, I would have an idea in my head about a sim when I made them but different things they did and their mannerisms would add onto them just through gameplay. It was a lot of subtle things and also a lot of imagination lol but those small quirks aren't there anymore. I did not play TS3 much because I thought the sims were ugly but some of those quirks were there too.
Sims 4 logic= a sim family dies =sad only for 3 days a random townie dies=sad for weeks.....sim cheated on their spouse=gets angry doesn't do nothing and the breakup wish never gets up and act like is nothing. I swear sims acts like psychos
I totally agree!! If i have a family of a single father and a daughter because i played out the loss of the mother, it shouldn't go back to normal after the three days of grieving. I wish there was a way to articulate this in the game. in my head, the dad doesnt want o ever date or get married and the daughter has felt lonely her whole childhood and has trouble making friends. In the game, Dad with automatically flirt with sims and daughter talks to anyone that walks up to her. I wish more things has long-term effects in the game
@@roryu338Yes!! I know in TS2 they had memories and just out of nowhere a thought bubble would pop up and they were remembering a dead spouse or even just thinking about their child getting good grades and they would react. It was subtle but it helped with realism with that individual sim. Something that small made an impact in gameplay so much.
Idea for traits: there should be one mandatory “flaw” (like more fleshed our jealous, hates children, or clumsy traits), “quirk” (like never nude, vegetarian, childish, etc), and then 3 regular traits that impact Sims lives.
^^^^^^YES
sims medieval actually had a similar system. you'd pick normal traits but at the same time u had to pick a fatal flaw.
Sims 3 really got it right. Shame they abandoned so much for “loading times.” 🙄 Yeah, it was long, but I could start it and then walk away and do stuff and then come back and play the game. Now, with all the packs and expansions to make Sims 4 somewhat fun, the loading time is back to being super long except now it’s in your face constantly while playing. So much so, that it takes away more gameplay because I don’t want to take my Sim places because it interrupts the game.
I don't mind that one loading screen at all, I get to get food or check my phone
It was only one big loading time at least, not 50 small ones
@@xorattl483 Me too, it let me prepare myself before playing
@@xorattl483 God I so relate to this. The main problem with the sims 3 was that they just made it in 32 bits. That's one of the main reasons it took so long to load, and was so glichy and slow sometimes. I get what they did with the sims 4, it had both versions 32 and 64 bits (at least at launch I don't really know right now). Instead of improving on the sims 3 they took it a step backwards (regarding the simulation aspect like having the whole town loaded and graphically), they had many reasons, one is that it's simpler and cheaper to develop, but also so that more people could run the game better and therefore have more sales. They went way too far because they ended up hurting their fan base. There are other ways to make you game run better without so many sacrifices.
the only think about the one loading screen is that for people with really crappy computers it could take hours to load. like on the Sims 4 the loading screens take like5 or 6 minutes each, I can't even fathom how long it would take for the Sims 3 to load on my computer
If they just updated Sims 2 gameplay with Sims 4 graphics and include a color wheel, I'd play the heck out that game.
Lala_Sparkles Me, too!!
this would be a dream, exactly sims 2 with sims 4 cas, graphics and building.
A remastered edition of The Sims 2 could made a lot of money to EA from old and new player. The fact that they doesn't even sell Sims 2 anymore and keep selling a game that are making every customer angry proven to me that at EA aren't "greedy" or "lazy" but simply stupid 🤦🏻♂️
Sims 2 with sims 4 graphics and open world and color wheel
And sims 3 open world
I like how you’re not only ranting but offering solutions. What also bothers me when it comes to emotions is that when someone they only talked to a few times dies it makes them as sad as when someone they’re close to like their mother dies.
I remember having a family in the Sims 3 and the grandfather died randomly and the whole family was devastated for weeks. And the grandson who had the best relationship with him would still hold out to his grave from time to time even when he became an adult and inherited the house. It's little things like that that make the gameplay so fun and realistic. Like actually reminiscing and having real emotional responses that impacted your game.
The thing i like about sims 3 is that the neighbourhood is so lively it's almost like a real life. For example, if i go to any comunity lot some people would talking to each other, some people are flirting, playing music, gadget and more. Not like sims 4 where the townies are just walking around back and forth doing nothing. Also, in sims 3, each expansion pack is somehow correspond to each other( for example the transfiguration mechanic from "world adventure" using spirit from "ambitions") and not just an additional thing added into the game :/
Lively at 15 FPS.
@@alandunaway3000 Not everyone has an old, busted computer. It's 2020. TS3 runs smoothly for me.
@@giversinner971 Seriously? How can this game run like trash on a GTX 760, which can run even Horizon 4 without hiccups? My PC is 5x more powerful than what the game requires. The game itself is busted.
@Axel Drans Sims 3 is garbage, both from bad optimization and the game itself, and it's ugly as heck. Seriously, 4GB and has half the content Sims 4 brought on the base game. I much more prefer Sims 4 over 3. Sims 4 looks graphically better and plays better. Sims 3 doesn't have many of the improvements Sims 4 brought, such as the family conversations and lots of other features.
Axel Drans LMAO how do you know they’re lying? Besides, I’ve seen multiple Sims 3 lps on KZhead that run beautifully with every pack installed lol
Relationships are what make me stick to building and not gameplay these days, where I used to the the opposite. I spend so much time setting up relationships and storylines that when I actually go to play, I’m over it. I know there are mods I could use, and I’m not against using them - but why can’t something already exist in the game to give relationships more depth?
I wish Sims understood family more. Cousins, stepparents, aunts, uncles. My sims shouldn't be able to autonomously flirt with their mother in law!
Why couldn't they add memories like TS2? That adds SO much depth imo, you can see why a Sim is the way they are
"TheRe'S a mOd FoR iT Why wAstE tiMe tO DeVeLop iT?"
Lol, right, you shouldn't have to use a mod. Speaking of mod's, it would also be cool if they would adjust the height options for Sims in CAS!
@@skywalker6648 I want this too, but I understand it's not easy to implement it to the game. At least they should make teen sims shorter than young adult. Because right now, they look the same! Of course there will be a lot of work to create the animation, but this is necessary!
I totally agree. I wish the Sims had more emotion and feeling towards loved ones. Nobody in the household even really cares if there's a birthday. In my current household one of my child Sims has a global superstar grandfather and she can't seem to introduce herself to him because of it. He's literally in her house visiting his daughter, but doesn't know his grand daughter? That makes no sense to me. My Sims could seem to care less about interacting with their children, spouses and family members. I agree about having too much money too, it's too easy to earn money. The Sims in my current household are millionaires. They'll never spend that much money.
Yeah totally agree, also sims basically feel the same between the death of a stranger and death of a family member so I wish this was different
I also hate that family members become angry at you when they witness you doing something "not appropriate", like drinking blood from a sim without permission, especially if that family member is a freakin vampire too. Come on, we got married thousand years ago, oh wait NOW YOU DRINKING BLOOD FROM A SIM. What a mean person you are! I hate you! Hey, what about a Woo-Hoo, my love?
I agree. And I don't understand why when child met somebody in scholl and they spend all day in my house, nobody knows this kid even if parents talked to him, unless I click introduction from each sim from household, and It gets so strange, when you interrupt discussion just for the icon in relationship bar. Or if you invite friends to your party, they all eat and talk, and then you decide to set up 2 sims, click this hook up with or smth, this 2 sims still don't know each other, like nothing happen, because you are actually didn't play for them. Or like you sad, my sims doesn't know their grandparents or grandchildren even if they spend holliday together and I just forgot to click introduction.
@@TheThinkBlue Agree! There's no difference. I actually hope there are a graveyard lot assignment and proper funeral. I ever get a notification saying "this person soul is fading away .. bla bla bla" and I'm like, "who the f is this guy?" lol
Master Mind Yeah they need a memory system or something One second they are in a argument and the next they are having 20 kids
I would love to see the color wheel return (something EVERYONE wants) and more swimming pool interactions, like diving, holding breath contest, underwater kiss/woohoo, marco polo, etc.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Marco Polo. That was fun.
VS M what was the Marco Polo thing in TheSims? It's a curious thing, I was too young to play before TS4 and I have never had other Sims games
Giorgia Romanova if sims went in the pool in earlier sims games they can play Marco Polo and challenge each other to hold their breath underwater. There's a chance of death for the latter actually
Jacqueline Okeke thank you for explaining me
@@DREAMINDIGO Don't know what you're missing, in the sims 3 the whole town was already loaded. You didn't have to face a loading screen to go to your neighbor's house, the cinema, work, school. It had cars, controllable pets, horses, were-wolfs, fairies. Could go on vacation to china, france. They just needed to make a revision to the engine because it was old and buggy, but not what they did with the sims 4, the game didn't even had a swimming pool when it launched!
I am a new player who never played the earlier versions, so I can't really compare, but even I have complains/ wishes for improved gameplay. I think a good way to see what needs to be changed is to lean back and let your Sim have an autonomous day. They should do things based on their traits, aspiration, careers, whims, their relationship to other Sims in the vicinity, and their needs. Currently, they seem to mostly act on their needs and if their needs are fine they either stand around for a long time or get a glass of water. Of course, if they would act on their whims they would buy a lot of bee boxes and musical instruments although they already own them... sigh. Not to mention all the bugs that result in actions that are repeated over and over (toddler care needs a major rework). My point is that creating your own story and micro-managing your Sim works reasonably well, but letting your Sim off the leash does not. That's a shame, because it could provide new impetus to a Sim's life story and make playing Sims 4 much more interesting.
I really can't stand how relationships are handled in 4, you're able to have your sims address their most hated enemies the same way as their best friend or relatives or love interests, there's no nuance, nothing to actually differentiate different relationship statuses other than a label, not to mention any "unique" interactions between sims falling flat because they share animations and relationship impacts as other interactions. My sim shouldn't be happy talking to a sim they hate just because they're in a nicely decorated room, especially if that sim has just insulted their mother and thrown a drink in their face. The new aspirations are also quite disappointing in being just tutorials, the most egregious example being the "beach bum" aspiration from Island Living. Not only is it disgustingly easy, but the reward being a trait that already exists in game, meaning that my sims who already have the carefree trait get absolutely no benefit from completing it whatsoever. Sims 2 for me is the perfect example of a game that was as challenging as it was enjoyable, as keeping a sim's aspiration meter high was often a struggle. Even failing at that could be fun, as you saw your sims have full on breakdowns leading to them making out with mops or cradling flour-sack babies, showing exactly how your failure had impacted them and challenging you to turn their situation around completely, and there is nothing like this in 4, just the same happy sims in every save no matter what. This went the other way as well, where maxing a sim's aspiration meter had TONS of benefits to special items working better (or working at all) and even getting a special death animation and tombstone, making you feel as if you _actually accomplished something_ with that sim even after they were gone. Not to mention, the animations in 2 were varied, fluid and positively delightful. Little things like sims swooning as they walk past a sim they found attractive or kids jumping on couches and playing on the fridge door just added that much more to the game, whereas in 4 all we have are a bunch of recycled animations that just get old fast. Speaking of sim kids, again, compare the ones we had in 2, who had a multitude of games to play (tag, red hands, mary mack, etc.) and special animations like the aforementioned jumping on / around random things, to the ones we have in 4 who do basically nothing and have nothing to make playing them interesting or worthwhile. We were promised smarter sims and more interesting emotions in 4, but just look at 2, where memories, interests, and emotional states towards other sims like attraction or rage made them feel like fully fleshed out beings. Now look at 4, where a painting can make the difference between an unhappy sim and a happy one, and where a conversation between a standing and a sitting sim will inevitably turn into some demented game of musical chairs. The sims are decidedly at their dumbest in 4, which alongside watching the same animations run over and over and over again and getting the same lackluster rewards for just about everything means that the game as a whole gets stale pretty quickly, even with all the new additions, and these are the issues I believe most urgently need to be addressed, as they make the game dull on a core level.
Wholeheartedly agree
My sim invited her enemy to weddings, birthdays, and other parties, and he was the only one guaranteed to show up every time.
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
I wish I could like your comment a million times, because your comment perfectly exemplifies why I rarely play 4 anymore. The only time I play 4 is when I couldn't get 10 minutes into 2 without it crashing--but a tweak of the textures and compatibility mode and I can play now for hours and never get bored. Where as my Sims 4 rarely, if not at all crashes, but I get bored after a couple of hours. Sims 4 is so limited in terms of depth and interactions. Like you said, kids literally don't act like normal kids would. I mean, yeah they make messes (which I wish other non-family members could lecture them and make them clean it up cause it's annoying as hell), but what about playing tag? Toss a ball around? Torment each other? Adult Sims in 2 are always interacting with each other and acting out what they're talking about--if they're talking about music, they rock an air guitar; talking about sports, they mime knocking out a homerun, swimming, or throwing a football. They got outside and toss a football, have a waterballoon fight, or play kicky-bag. They play chess with each other, and depending on the their actual personality, they might even fake like something is over the other Sims shoulder and switch the pieces. I love seeing those types of interactions. I understand why the Sims 4 cut back, because they want to make it run faster but it's lifeless and useless. No more unpredictability-- There are no more robbers or firemen, which makes absolutely NO sense literally everything catches on fire. The game still stutters and there's sometimes a stop and go in conversations, where Sims will blankly stare at each other. The worlds are becoming increasingly small with fewer lots do anything on, and it's just such a disappointment. The only thing that makes Sims 4 interesting is the modders and that's not atypical for games, but it's pretty telling that modders are the ones keeping the games afloat.
Wait What I agree, Sims 2 is for people who want a good game play and sims 4 really is for builders
Definitely the best I’ve heard the “shallowness” articulated. A+
VS M definitely agree! Although I’m more of a story teller type player with this explanation I can understand why ppl are upset.
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I can imagine them finally deciding to add more depth to the emotions and traits (add in fears, and zodiac signs *please*) but making it an extra pack that you need to buy
EMOTIONS STUFF/GAME PACK
IN DEEP LIVING PACK
They probably won't even bother to improve the base game, they'll just release Sims 5 first
Lol zodiac signs NO. I’m so glad they rid of that entirely pointless feature. ‘Ooh your Sim is a Cancer so they’ll get on better with Scorpios’ or whatever - such nonsense.
EA loves making us pay for things that should be in base game xD
I miss how attempting to do a task you had no skill in would literally kill your sims. A sim with zero handiness skill should not be able to fix a tv
They don’t? I still have ptsd from my sims dying horrible deaths so I never even tried it in this game
I totally agree. I’m TS2 and TS3, I would stick with a game/Sim for a long time. I would work at their life and wants, build a family, work on their career, etc. Relationships mattered. Things they did mattered. It was challenging and fun. TS4 is all flash. It’s beautiful. Graphics are amazing. CAS is awesome (other than the missing color wheel). But there are no real genetics. All the Sims end up the same. No depth at all. And there are no preset relationships either. Family members of EA Sims don’t even know each other. Neighbors don’t know each other. It’s sad. And my child and teenaged Sims meet the same Sims over and over at school. It feels to unreal. I hope that when designing Sims 5, EA actually goes back to the Sims 2 and 3 to get some ideas on how to make a game. I feel cheated with 4. Yes, I have all packs. It’s the only way to feel like there’s something new to do. But it’s a short termed feeling. Thank you for making this and all your other videos.
48 traits, 39 in base game (roughly) 29 packs. Average of less than 0.33 trait per pack added. 1 trait every 3 packs.... That's pretty bad. The added traits are simple, and many of the base game ones are. Just 1 or 2 traits per big pack would have made such a big difference in where we are today.
Lol, I don't even find it interesting to create legacies because of the lack of real genetics.
I wonder if they actually planning on doing so. So far they kept on releasing game packs, stuff packs and expansion packs. It seems like this will be the Sims for a much longer period of time than before. Its actual lifespan could be expanded to 5 more years. Like an MMORPG you know.
For me when I have two beautiful sims, do the genetics and then their children dont look like them at all, the nostrils become wider, jaw isnt like theirs, idk whats happening even when i made a male sim his female lookalike and had a child they will still look deformed
@@tarastanojevic6054 The genetics bad. Mine don't even get the same skin color! I'll have a darker family and end up with a pale kid on "play with genetics". The hair colors on the parents will be black or brown but the kid might have red hair. None of the facial features are similar and I'm just left all sorts of confused. I hate it.
I wish the sims would call family members by the respective "word". Like...mother, father, big sister etc instead of " hey Aboni! Heard you become good friends with doggy!"
Yes!
Aboni020316 and also in-laws, step parents and half siblings! If I rmb correctly these relationships are shown in the family tree but not the relationship panel
Yeah I'd like that...but only with some family members. Like I always call my sister by her name....but not my parents for example.
Right, I don't know how they overlooked that one when developing communication in the game.
@@JH-kt2bs True, I replaced a premade grand-daughter Sim with another Sim in Island Living and the panel only allowed me to make her a daughter in CAS. So much for that.
Sims 2 has just got to be the best one . There was always so much going on and so many things to do that was unique to each sim depending on their personality which in turn affected their wants and fears and gave them lifetime wants. The memory system was cool . Heck that game even had the tiniest of details like hair movement . A sims 2 with open world would be perfect . And I love sims 3 but no damn teleporting into the cars again lol
The problem with The Sims 4 is that The Sims 2 and 3 came before it.
I even enjoyed Sims 1 more than Sims 4...
@@m.woodsrobinson9244 I wish I could find way to make sims 1 work on my computer; I actually miss it.
As a person that still plays the Sims 2, agree
@@BooDotBoo it's not too hard actually, look up a video guide
I really miss the depth of a community from TS3, where other sims would make their own storylines, have kids on their own, make relationships. Open World will never be a thing in this game, but I really miss feeling like I'm a part of a big world, not that the world is a backdrop for my sims life.
When I play TS4, it reminds me too often that I'm just clicking buttons for animations and graphics. I miss the personal touches of TS2 mainly. How traits changed the way they walked (when your shy sims would just shuffle about like their in danger), and interacted with other sims/the world. Seeing their thought bubbles (like someone they dislike in flames lol) without it taking up an 'action/command' tile. Random sims stealing your newspaper. Leaving a flaming bag of dog poop at doors. Burglars!
The graphics are great, the game play is flat; everybody's the same, and there aren't any relationships that have depth.
Graphics are not great, the design is in places visually pleasing, but the overall quality isn't very good.
They should take a look back at Sims2, that game had a lot of character.
They need to combine the Sims 2 & 3 together. Those are the 2 I still play so often today. They had the depths they need in 4.
@@lanastrubel1283 sims 4 also has pretty amazing graphics. I say mix them all up, and ta-da! It's perfect.
and had Will Wright in it
They need to explain to us why the game lacks so much emotion
“The sims 4 is literally a sandbox” sums up the whole thing
if it is a sandbox..why i am not able to change something..i mean i cant even edit the world or made a new one...thats the most limited sandbox i've ever seen
In that case it's a bad one. in TS2 you can create any world you want in any time period you want, with any kind of economy you want. We still had that to some extent in TS3 but honestly it seems like the sandbox aspect keeps getting worse.
I think there should be a memory system, so if you lose a loved one it won't just be gone by the next day, it will forever be a part of the sim's history. Having occasional negative moodlets from remembering bad memories, or having fears from traumatic experiences, like a sim being unable to swim in a pool because they had a bad experience, something like that. Maybe if a sim got bad grades, they would get a negative moodlet from doing homework, and sims with good grades would get a good moodlet. Give actions some consequences that makes it more interesting to play.
Mai Lin a Memory System existed in Sims 3.
@@Jaded42O Yes, but it wasn't as good as the memory system in the Sims 2. In that game your sims remembered their dead relatives and the fires and heartbreaks they exeperienced and acted accordingly. Wished they had expanded on that in 4 instead of leaving that out too, like the many other things they left out!
I have this with slice of life
The memory system in sims 2 was great but it has a price to pay. After so many memories the save would corrupt. I never had the problem but I played with aging off and never got pass a generation of sims. I'm a rotation player so it keep me busy with a lot of sims but for the players that kept aging on and had many generations of sims the save would eventually become corrupted. It needs a system that only keeps the memory for so long then the system needs to delete them so how.
Sims 3 memories are pretty much only for the player's benefit. They don't impact gameplay, but they can make you feel like what your sim did was important, and you can view them all later for nostalgia.
This video is level-headed and obviously a lot of thought went into it. I also like your narration (Sims youtubers often tend to speak really fast for some reason?). 10 / 10 would commiserate again.
Well... Most sims KZheadrs are either female or gay men... The ones that aren't are usually comedy.
Everything about The Sims 4 feels like it was designed to be a good demo at a conference or something. All its core features are really able to be expressed in a 20 minute walk through.
If I had never played Sims 3, I just might like Sims 4 better than I do. In Sims 3 (I have over 7500 hours in that one and I'm not a builder), there was so much time, effort and thought put into the actions, reactions and animations of the Sims that just about the time I thought I had seen it all, the Sims would surprise me. They were highly entertaining and hilarious at times. Hidden animations that would appear just when you least expected it. It appears that in the Sims 4, there wasn't nearly the time and effort put into all the various actions and reactions that a Sim would and could have in any given situation. Take for instance the bowling animations from Sims 3 and Sims 4. In the beginning, they knew they were terrible and would feel pretty good about knocking over just a couple of pins. But as they progressed, they knew they could do better and those couple of pins would cause a small temper tantrum. And I certainly miss the victory dances when they got a strike. It was also a surprise to me that my Sim maxed bowling in two trips to the lanes. The personalities in the Sims 4 are so much different than those in Sims 3. Maybe it's because there are only 3 and as you said, they don't make much of a difference. In Sims 3, picking those traits was a major factor in creating a Sim. What you picked definitely played a factor in how your Sim acted. I had one Sim in Sims 3 that I created that seemed to have a mind of his own. He would do things that seemed calculating and intelligent. I have never had that experience with a Sim like that yet in Sims 4. I miss that spontaneity in Sims 4. The Sims don't make me laugh nearly as much and really have never taken me much by surprise. In fact, some of their responses are just predictable and lackluster. And then there's that whole standing/sitting thing you mentioned during conversations. So Annoying. And while we're on the subject of annoying... going for a drink when their hunger is green, washing their hands every chance they get, racing to a computer to "Browse Web" if they aren't washing their hands. And speaking of computers, where's the "Play Chess" option on video games? Do I really have to have a chess board in every house I live in? Which brings me to the packs. There are so many things in the Sims 3 that were given to us that we have to buy in Sims 4. What's up with that? The art style is a lot different. In Sims 3 each little leaf on the trees would shimmer in the wind, in Sims 4 whole parts of trees sway back and forth instead. I actually used the clocks on the walls to tell time instead of having to look down at the game clock because the clocks on the wall worked, but not in Sims 4. The shine on a Sims hair in the Sims 3 actually had a lot to do with the placement of light in the room. I DO like the CAS in Sims 4 and I DO like the faster loading times. In Sims 3, I could start the game, go off and make a sandwich, chat a bit with the roommate, let the dog out (and then back in again) and still have to wait for it to finish loading. What has made this game bearable are Mods. Sure I had Mods in the Sims 3 but I didn't rely on them as heavily as I do in the Sims 4 to make the game interesting. Call me old fashioned, but when one thing is replaced by another, I expect it to be better. I expected Sims 4 to be a cross, blend and the best of Sims 2/Sims 3 and maybe even Sims Medieval. If they want us to be interested in Sims 5, they need to do better than this.
Perfectly said 🙏
well said
It's not old-fashioned to expect that the next game in a franchise is going to be better. That's being a consumer. I'm almost 30, and I've played Sims since Sims 1. Well, I haven't really played the Sims 4 (I did buy the base game when it was on offer, but I've only launched the game a couple of times) because they said back in 2014 that they wouldn't release a colour wheel for CAS and Build & Buy. That disappointed me too much.
@@raindropsneverfall ... Let me save you some grief, time and money. I got Sims 4 back in May when they offered it for free. I had been fighting the urge to get it because I loved Sims 3 so much, but free sounded good. Since then, like the good Simmer with a few extra bucks to spare, I have acquired a few Expansions, Game Packs and Stuff Packs. Sims 4 Base Game + Kids Room Stuff + Toddler Stuff does not equal Tree House, Swings, Sand Box, or Playground Riders. Even though we got all of those items in the Sims 3 Base Game, the playground after buying those packs is still pretty sparse and lame. You get pianos, guitars and violins but the days of playing instruments with other Sims is over. WooHooing in a bed feels more like a hook-up, even with your sweetheart, because as soon as they are finished, they jump out of bed. No laying there beside each other, no option to cuddle, make out, kiss... etc. Also, gone are the days when you could lay in bed and read a book. Fishing is about the same, when it comes to animations. Heck, in the Sims 4 you can even hook weeds and logs (also apples and basil... because folks always hook fruit and spices when they fish?). However to fish, you need to click on the fishing signs located near bodies of water. To find these signs, you have to travel to a house in a neighborhood. Your Sim gets the option to "Inspect the Water" which used to give you information of what kind of fish there are, but in Sims 4, the info you get is not useful at all. Which means if you want a particular fish, you have to remember where you caught the first one. Speaking of traveling... my Sim went next door... literally NEXT DOOR... to visit the neighbor. He runs to the house, gets almost to their front walk, and... loading screen. Same when he went home. He runs to his house... gets almost to the mailbox and... loading screen. Really?!? If you get the "Get to Work" expansion and join your Sim when they go to work, do yourself a BIG favor and turn off your Sims autonomy. It won't stop random chatting, but it'll save valuable goal time and frustration from those stupid, "I need to... drink water, wash my hands, browse the web, clean random surfaces, mop suspicious puddles" and other actions that they will head off to do the micro-second after they get done with whatever action you had them doing before that. If you buy the "Get Together" expansion, you get to join a club. But the thing is, once you join an already established club, even though you are NOT the leader... yet... YOU are the one responsible for club gatherings. When you join, the moment you join, they will welcome you and invite you to a gathering that they are holding at that moment. That is the last invite to a gathering that you will receive. From that point forward, you will receive reminders... that your club hasn't gathered in a while (two or three days) and that you should start one, even though that sounds an awful lot like something a leader should do. You'll also receive random invites from Sims you know to go to some great party happening in some great place. Yeah. This usually happens just about the time your Sim needs to go to sleep for work the next day. The other Sim obviously has all the time in the world because even though they may have a job... they NEVER go there! All during the day, all of the Town Sims who claim to have jobs can be seen jogging past your house and will show up at venues you visit. You can even drag them with you during their work hours when you travel. Kids apparently don't spend their days in school as they can also be seen out and about. Oh... and pregnant Sims can drink "juice" at the bars. If you buy the "Get Famous" expansion pack, things will go smoothly until the second star. That second star promotes Sims you already know to all of a sudden show up at your house because, "We were friends before you got famous... right?" and these Sims will walk up to your door... without knocking... whether you are there or at work... and enter your home and make themselves at home, eat your food, watch your TV, play on your computer... etc. Sure you can lock your door to keep them out, but if you gave a house key to your Sims parents, siblings or significant other, as soon as you lock that door, they can't get in either. Even though that's why you gave them a key. Go Figure. I could go on and on... because that "free" game has cost me a lot of money to try to make better with expansion, game and stuff packs. There are a few I just refuse to get because on the "Let's Plays" I have watched, they seem to create more work for my Sims and create more game interruptions than are necessary, but you get the idea.
i miss the open world. if you don't have a very great computer the loading screen can take 5 mins.. i don't even let my sims leave the house if I can help it. the open world just made it so much easier to get immersed, to see what's happening in the park real quick or to peek inside the library, without having a (pretty ugly) loading screen. I wouldn't mind if they made it that traveling to a different "section" in the city caused a loading screen, but then all the houses/buildings in that section didn't create another loading screen :/
There's even an extremely basic element to the Sims that's missing from TS4. Thought bubbles. In TS3, thought bubbles containing an image would constantly appear over your Sim's head, signaling what that Sim was thinking about at that moment. Because we lack that system in TS4, it further contributes to Sims feeling the same because you can't tell what they're thinking.
Yes! One of my favourite things from the Sims 2 was when a sim saw another sim they hated there would be a thought bubble of their face with flames around it. It really set the tone of the moment.
I love in ts3 that when they're sleeping they also have thought bubbles about how they feel and what's going on around them. My husband sim is non committal and always has the ring with a cross over it during sleep. I forced a relationship with his wife and no matter what they just really aren't meant for each other and it really shows, it creates a challenge but it's real sweet bc they're together for their 2 kids
Oh my gosh you are so right!!! How amazing was the sims 3
@@evanh6427 True, and how about sims showing their attraction (or lack of) for each other. It could make spouse hunting kind of interesting. "Say John, Valarie's pretty nice looking. What do you think?" John: Bleeechhh!" (almost vomits) Well okay then!
My biggest continuing peeve is inventories. I would love to be able to organize inventories in some meaningful way so that I don't have to look so hard to find stuff. If we could have something like "folders" to put things in - or could even just organize household and personal inventories, by type, alphabetically, or something, so we can more easily and rapidly get to the specific thing we want to use. Dammit, I *know* I've got garlic in my inventory somewhere, but I can't FIND it! You know what I mean! :-)
Inventory clearly wasn't supposed to be used as much originally and they never expanded on it.
@@MiloKuroshiro Yes - I just wish they would now that they see how many of us use it!
This is old but there are some pretty good mods that help with this
Sims 4 was the first time I ever used mods to actually change the gameplay. I've added mods in the past for new things or to expand upon something in the game , like vampires and giving them more things they could do. Despite heavily modding Sims 4 I still only play it in bursts before going back to sims 3. Of course there is the common complaint of no open world, and I could live with that if the neighborhoods were a self contained mini world rather than me constantly having to wait for loading screens when going next door to hang out with my neighbor. Pretty much your video hit the nail on the head. There just isn't enough game play for me to stay interested past that burst.
I miss the memories: good and bad...i also miss when the horoscopes were involved. I miss watching the babies grow from baby to toddler to kid to teen to young adult- adult- elder. I miss when all the task appearing at the top... sims 4 has gotten technically better but the heart of it isnt there
There're memories in the screen capture section
เมธาสิทธิ์ พุ่มสําเภา actually no... i meant saved memories that can effect the mental condition of the sim.... they didnt add that feature to sims 4
socheathsun Considering how memories negatively affected game performance in Sims 3, it is probably a good thing. They’ve given us so little really, but they have already been making the towns small because they are trying to drag out how long until the game becomes mostly unplayable . And there’s still 4-5 more years of content to go. I swear they must try to time the decline of the game so it bottoms out shortly before they release the next version.
@@socheathsun There's a mod for that and it's named Slice of Life. Yes you do have to resort to using mods (like in many other games) to fix these kind of issues, and yes that's an unfortunate thing, but it's also a reality. If you just sit and wait of these game companies to fix YOUR (even if many others agree with you) issue, then you'll just be playing yourself.
IcebergTruPlaya I’ve never added a mod... i don’t want to change the mechanics of the natural game
Other than what you mentioned, I really miss actual genetics. In the sims 2 there were recessive genes and it was so much fun. A kid could inherit the eye color from the grandparents, for example, and some features like a big nose or particular shapes could be inherited over multiple generations. I also miss unrequited relationships.
They're on a completely different wavelength now. Before you had the awesome design that you mentioned, now you have becoming a master painter/musician because you watched a cooking show for 10 minutes and taking angry shits.
Vladimira one time, a blonde kid and a red head kid were born between two brown haired parents in my game lol. I’m not sure if it was a glitch, but I was pleasantly surprised!
@@user-pz6tb3yq4k Maybe the grandparents had blond or red hair, that means both the parents had a dominant brown hair gene and a recessive blond or red gene.
Vladimira it was in sims 4. Idk if they still have recessive gene in that game
@@user-pz6tb3yq4k oh, Sorry, I thought you were talking about sims 2. Sims 4 idk, but I doubt it
The world is dead. No city no town. Its missing the big picture that the sims e open world had
Remember the create a world beta tool for TS3? :( I spent so many hours on that
And at least the Sims 2 let you create your own neighborhood, in sims 4 you're stuck in the neighborhoods that the Game gives you, and you can't add lots to the world, or even make new ones ffs
I want Sims 2 gameplay with Sims 4 emotion system and Sims 3 open world.
What about babies they feel like items in build mode
Only because they are.
Baby annoys you....just sell it lol. Is pretty much how it goes
They feel like Sims 1 babies
I really liked how you can take care of a baby in TS3 because there you can put it in a stroller, in a baby mat or something like that and also you can leave the baby wherever you want in the house, it's not stuck in it's bed... Plus, there were beautiful crib designs and you can add beautiful modes to get more designs of everything... TS4 can be the perfect game if they fix it a little more! I want one more thing they can add, which isn't a feature in any sims game and this is the multiplayer! I would even want to buy that game where I can create sims with my friends and play together and be neighbours, family, relatives or others etc. ...
They literally are if you go in debugging mode
It's their formula for optimizing profit. It's like the execs just aren't fans of the game. They probably also do crappy market research. I mean, if some of the decision makers watched you and a couple other YT channels, they could vastly improve this within the next quarter.
maybe its because the people who play the sims arent aware of EA's business philosophy with other games. they will buy or create a franchise and then rely on a solid and naive fanbase to drain as much money as possible with expensive expansions or by re-releasing the same game or including surprise mechanics. no amount of passion from the game developers can overcome the greed of the company as a whole. thats pretty much how every bad, expensive game comes about
Yes, I also think they do crappy market and consumer research.
I love the wants and fears system from the sims 2...it adds depth....not to mention attraction....makes it a little harder to find someone for them to marry XD
Oh, my new favorite bug is where the sims act as if they're hungry and continuously make food but never eat it.
We need hobbies, we need generations pack. I’m sick and tired of never being able to play any character that isn’t a young adult. And even that is boring as hell. Every pack is EMPTY, OVERPRICED. And then on top of that bugs that never ever get fixed.
EA is good at making games filled with bugs that never get fixed
It's kind of insulting that we've been told that we're not getting gameplay for kids and teens because we don't play with them. I don't play with kids and teens because there's nothing for them to do! It's boring! If I had more gameplay for them, I'd play them more.
Okay, I love The Sims 4, but most of all I miss the impactful individuality the Sims have in The Sims 2. I mean in that game Sims have... - aspirations (a lot more life-changing than the ones in TS4) - secondary aspirations (they go alongside the main aspiration!) - wants & fears that influenced their aspiration bar (which shows how they feel about their life at the moment!) - memories (you can always go back and see what happened in their lifes and sometimes they even think about those events!) - hobbies (they even have a "one true hobby"!) - a reputation system - interests (determining how well they can hold conversations with other Sims with a different set of interests!) - an influence bar (depending on how popular your Sim is, they can influence other people to do things!) - a great personality system instead of traits (personality could even slightly be altered by their older relatives while growing up!) - chemistry (based on your Sims' zodiac sign + 3 physical or mental traits they like or dislike in another Sim!) - while there aren't officially "emotions" in TS2, they would randomly cry and sigh quite a while after a Sims' death making them still feel more impactful than in TS4 There's so much that makes one Sim different from another. It's sad to see how in The Sims 4 there's so much less... And I know TS4 has a few of these things, but they feel a lot less impactful since everything is solved with traits and moodlets.
Thank you! You said everything I want to say but didn t know how to put it in words! Sims 4 main sell point was emotions, and I feel like the Sims 2 has more emotions than the 4. Always get over excited with a pack thinking this time it will be different, and I play it for 1 week and get bored.
Yep, sims 2 had a great personality system. If it had sims 4 graphics and time progression (when you travel) it would be a better game than sims 4.
Reputation system is already in get famous, but doesn't seem like a real reputation system, you only get a + or a - when you're meeting someone new and that's all.
Yes! I am going through and re-playing TS2 right now, and there is almost no comparison as far as personalities and things like that.
The sims 2 is waay beyond it’s time
I play the sims since Sims 1. I really miss the humour. Also I want to make a character and a story. I feel like in the sims 4 it is about completing tasks and it doesn't make much difference if I took care of my relationships. It feels like the team cares less then it used to be. I used to feel that the makers had fun developing the game, now it feels like it is about making money.
I'm totally agree, Sims 1 & 2 were extremely sassy and adult-humorous, Sims 4 just feels too childish...
@@rodrigoogaz3860 Exactly! it seems cringy and childish. I haven't even played Sims 1, but I have watched loads of videos about it and I really want to play it. Sims 2 and 3 for the win!
I recently downloaded the island living pack when it was half off and I explored the new island for 10 minutes and was bored, but did get some cool clothes for my sims. That's about it
I would totally buy a “personality pack” with stronger emotions, longer lasting emotions, more traits and more times traits become relevant.
shhhh dont say that, they will make it a pack so we have to pay again rather than fix it as they should :D :D
Seeing as they have had 5 years and done nothing but disable personality features buying it might be our only hope.
I wouldn't. It should be free in the base game.
It SHOULD be in the base game, and I really wish it was, but if EA wants to know what I want, it’s more diverse Sims, rather than a new location to visit or another occult sim.
*Aspirations should not be Tutorials* EXACTLY!
I loved the Sims 2 aspirations.
I think one of the core problems is exactly how sims interact with one another. As was said in the video, there's no lasting effects to anything you do; no sense of accomplishment for your sim or others around it. They have no focus; no particular goal, and the situations they find themselves in doesn't seems to affect them as much as it did in previous games. The issue, is the sense that everything is easily fixable for your sim. It shouldn't be like that.
i agree with all of the things you said!! it's honestly so upsetting that they've let this game go so downhill. i hope to god they don't make a sims 5 - especially not with all the issues we have now. *1.* ea is money hungry - tons of stuff they've asked us to pay for _should_ have been implemented into the base game in the first place (seasons, animals, laundry, etc.) i said this with sims 3 as well. we shouldn't have to pay for every day things like this when this game is literally a simulation game. *2.* i was able to play sims 2 & sims 3 w/o mods (bc i didn't know how to download them then,, but the point still stands) for HOURS every day but now if i even tried to play sims 4 w/o mods and cc,, i wouldn't last longer than ten mins without getting bored (seriously even with mods i still find myself getting bored) and this _shouldn't_ be an issue at all *3.* this ties into the first point, but the price difference for a sims 3 expansion pack and a sims 4 expansion pack are insane (example: sims 3 seasons cost $20 but sims 4 seasons costs $40... that's insane) *4.* i _hate_ that sims 4 isn't open world. i hate that my sim trying to visit her neighbor's house leads to a loading screen when you can literally see the house right next door.. IT'S ANNOYING *5.* i commend anyone who can play with the same family for a long period of time... i find myself growing bored of a family after a short period of time, i'm lucky if i can even make it to the third generation without wanting to make a new game. i didn't have that issue in ts2 and ts3. *6.* ts3 and ts2 were a challenge, they were fun and i enjoyed building their lives from scratch, and i didn't want to use cheats and mods to speed things up. that's not how it is for ts4. *7.* i miss the sims 2 wants and fears system, i think that was so great. *8.* i miss being able to choose favorite foods, favorite color, and the horoscope option they had in the sims 3. i loved how it felt like we could add more personality to our sims with this *9.* the careers, like you mentioned, can get so repetitive. i've noticed that the ones in get to work especially have been super repetitive. i still play them because it's one of the only things i still sort of enjoy about ts4 but the promotion requirements should not be so easy... most of the time doctors are only required to treat three sims to get promoted... i wish they had made the promotion and job tasks for challenging. i know complaining or stating my opinions won't make a damn difference because EA only cares about making money but i can't help but feel frustrated by watching the game i enjoyed *so much* as a kid go downhill. it's just sad.
I agree with all this.. #5.. I'm lucky if I can make it through Gen 2 without deleting and creating a new family. I get super bored within 10 mins of the game.
exactly, EA is about money milked it until drain, for what they see TS4 profit performance they will shut down the franchise soon or later, just like Dead Space franchise is tragic, dead space and any other games born because how passionate dev. on making them. hire cheap then sell game overprice yeay blend clone taste product
I really miss the meaningful interactions we had in sims 3, like asking your partner’s parents for daughter/son’s hands, and having a positive moodlet about it
My issues: - traits don't matter or affect gameplay in any way - wants used to direct gameplay and were tied to traits. They also had more significant implications (I.e. non committal Sims wanting divorces or flirty Sims wanting multiple partners) - betrayals don't matter. You can cheat on a spouse and be back at 100% by the end of the day - children have nothing to do, no real family interaction I could go on... but it's honestly so exhausting.
Late to the party but here are a few: * Moodlets - Negative ones should not decay at full speed while overwritten by positive ones. If my sim looses her spouse she should not "solve" her sadness with a cup of coffee and some nice decor boosts. Either I try to go on as normal with some speed loss from random sobbing and some interactions locked out or I use things like that cup of coffee to temporarily get into a happy state to deal with some specific thing knowing I'm delaying dealing with the sadness or I help my sim work through the sadness with the actions unlocked by being sad. I might invite a friend over for a good crying session or send my sim to talk to a therapist. * Traits - For the inevitable Sims 5 sometime in the future I wish they split the traits system into two. One focused on the emotions focused ones. Take a page out of the original Sims 1 and let me set my sims affinity for them like the characteristics in the first game on a scale of 0 to 10. Maybe I want the current level of angry favoring that Hotheaded gives today, that's a 7 (with non trait sims being at 3), or maybe I want a sim with real anger issues so I crank it up to 10. Then I go over to the other one with character traits that are personality based; things like Kleptomaniac or Vegetarian; or a new one to add a failure risk to a specific negative emotion. In my anger issues sim example I'd pick Angry for it and have a risk of instead of calming down, and reduce the timer on the angry moodlets, increase it as your sim telling my sim to calm down does not make her less angry it does in fact just make her more angry. Would let you pick one negative trait that a sim is unable to handle. I could have another sim with the same anger related character trait but the lowest possible Anger affinity but once he gets angry he does not let up for a sleeping giant archetype. Or I could pick Sad instead for a melancholic sim or Tense if I wanted to focus a playthrough on a sim dealing with work/life stress and balance. It would need the non/slow decaying moodlets to work but it would let players take an emotion and have it "go to 11". With different negative emotions working differently in what they lock out or open up it also opens up for more playthroughs and playstyles as a sim would deal with being overly Uncomfortable differently to how they'd have to deal with constant Boredom or an Embarrassment they keep digging deeper. * Relationships - Very on point. One thing that could be added to the game without having to wait for a sequel would be to give us a bunch of progression trees for relationship types. Special Someone - for sims who gain more from dates, interactions with boy/girl-friends and even more from spouses. Party Animal/Social Butterfly - for sims that gain more from meeting new people, more from performing group interactions for the first time (less than three or similar in hidden skills) and so on. Loner - for the sim that isn't a people person. Slower social decay, more gain from non-face to face interactions such as chatting online. Perhaps even unlocking socializing with inanimate objects like plants, beachballs or that perfectly crafted marble statue. Animal lover - Pets interaction focused. Caregiver - As above but for children, possibly teens. Don't want to call it child lover for obvious reasons. etc. etc. can easily be expanded around supernatural states or even activities and the clubs system for a tree that let's your sim give while in their element and just want to hang around with his Bros at the gym or having tea with the other club members of the murder mystery club. * Whims - I'd love to inject some personality choice to it and either let my sim be spontaneous with the current quick fire options for small rewards or a focused goal oriented sim that gets three choices, with two going away by discarding them or starting progression in one, similar to pre-work tasks based on traits, skills, mood etc (but not occupation as there is a system for that already). Giving me a day long tasklist that I can choose to perform for a mid size reward. Something in between the immediate current whims and the long term aspirations. * Money - What is needed isn't just more expensive items but more money sinks. At all levels. Let me buy a round for everyone in the bar to celebrate my promotion or flaunt my wealth or just to gain fame. Give me the option to improve my television by upgrading it by buying a cable or streaming service subscription and bump up my bills. Let my Geek sim subscribe to the Llama-man comic. Mechanically each issue could be the same or taken from a small pool of possible uses but all it really needs to do is iterate the issue number once per week and boom we have a new collectible. One day I might be able to buy that 50 000 simoleon pristine issue 1 copy too as a crown jewel to my collection. Cleaning service and the butler/maid are a good start when it comes to moneysinks but there needs to be more and ones that add either flavor or interactions. Let my sim bid on unknown storage containers, Storage Wars style, and get a bunch of garbage not worth what I had to bid against other sims but with a small chance of getting a more valueable item or furniture piece or even, at even lower odds, a career restricted item. Pretty much a lootbox fueled by ingame money only.
The sims 2 memory system, photo albums, and cinematic videos for important moments in their lives was my favorite part of the game. There was so much depth and you could tell that the creators actually cared about what game they were releasing.
Also I wonder why relaxing in bed was cut from the base game.
it's still there as a hidden animation... that you can only see if simulation lag happens when your sim goes to sleep
I went back to playing the sims 3 recentley and it made me realize how much I missed aspects of the game. Sims 4 has great UI and building. Its also easier to load and use mods. But the sims 3 was just more interesting to play and I miss that. When I loaded up my ts3 game a burglar stole my fridge and my witch sim caught a chair on fire. The spontaneity led to better gameplay. It seems like the sims team took a step back. I hope they learn from their mistakes if they make the sims 5.
It's telling of sims 4 when it didn't come with a "story mode" built in. It was designed around young adult fulfilling their dreams, and nothing else, that's why toddlers weren't even there because they're "boring". The other sims games were so generational you wanted to keep playing; but when you can do everything in one life why keep playing? It sucks because the building tools are SO powerful, but along with it the the gameplay makes you feel just as powerful, if so many of the most boring ways... Also I say the tools feel powerful, but I'm thinking 4 years ago a it's a new generation and this seems so basic now. :|
burglar's cops firefighters man how i miss these
@@deeji6098 these fun events made you smile. Its a bit of game soul that is missing in TS4.
Yes! Anyone remember Mrs.Crumplebottom? The annoying old lady who would always show up in lots and nag at all the youngins? I never thought I would miss her. =( He nailed the relationship thing exactly. You need social, there's a stranger. Stop them in their jogging and chat till your social is filled, and then you done. That's about it. =T
The sims 3, even had better building, than the sims 4 does.
The main reason I play the Sims is to see my characters and my stories being played out in front of me, so please do not say that story makers are enjoying the game, at least not as a group. Many writers and story makers quit the Sims series or went back to the second or third games to do what they love. Sure, other groups have been falling off, but other than fancy camera options, the Sims 4 has not done much of anything for those wishing to flesh out a story in the game. The removal of traits as something of substance and also the poor sim AI are very real reasons why these types of players have grown frustrated and tired of the game. I think that modding should also be brought up when talking about a game such as this. No simmer wants to have to download mods just to fix their broken game and then go ahead and update the game and have to stop playing for a month just so the mods update again so the game will work. When Nraas started modding the Sims 3 we could count on their power to play the game through the bugs, but we could also trust the developers not to break every single aspect of how the game works from the AI to the UI to the loading screens when they came out with a pack or update. There were definitely a few times where the game did extinguish certain other aspects of mods but at the cost of new game play mechanics such as interactable oceans. What sims lack is a sense of originality and personality, just as you said. In my Sims 3 save I can look at all 200 of my sims in the six generations of the family, yes, even the twins and triplets, and the set of 8, and differentiate each and everyone of them even if by a single trait or phenotypic difference. They all stand out. Traits were a way of guiding players and establishing an understanding of a sim, but now they just act as a charade. I don't want a trait system that uses the happiness "meter" in the game as if they combined the traits and the happiness meter into one thing; I want the sims to seem different from each other, and I think that is what a lot of us want too.
The sims 3 has the best traits system (That I have seen). It has 5 categories of trait and there were plenty of traits in there, especially from the base game. Many of these traits effect social interactions, what they do with objects, what short term aspirations they get, and even effect how fast they learn skills.
One simple thing that I miss the Most was the "diary", that stored all milestones and happenstance in the sim life... like first kiss, first day of work etc... it was your sim memory and how he grew... life story is so empty now...
Bringing the relationship system and the wants/fears system from TS2 would change everything. I miss the longterm relationship bar, becaus enow when my sims, who are usually good friends or family, argue, they go back to acquaintances and you have to work the relationship back up as if they were strangers. How does that make sense? I want a short term relationship bar to go down and work from there, not for the sims to be completely estranged because of a fight. I'm a heavily story-driven player so as you said, I don't really miss the "progress rewards", but there are still things that are missing. Honestly, if they remade TS2 in TS4's aesthetic and art style... I think I'd rather play that :'D
In the sims 3 I was interested in there wishes and moodlets because they where unique. Vampires got different moods from drinking out of different supernaturals for example. Getting friends took work, getting a promotion was actually meaningful.
I love how the sims2 would surprise me, I have a clear plan on what I’m doing and what I want for my sims and then the game throws a total curveball at me, that I have to somehow handle. I’m still playing sims 2 after like 13 years and it still surprises me and I find new stuff. There’s a challenge in doing a lot of things, that I don’t mind. Sometimes it’s frustrating that all the sims needs are pretty demanding to keep up and still have time to work on other stuff, but I really don’t mind. Friendships require a lot of effort as well. I lately bought sims 4 and a couple packs on sale and haven’t gotten to play much yet. Now I’m wondering if it was money wasted or not 😂
Better chemistry system between sims! Any sim can like anyone, theres no actual chemistry
Didn't a previous sims (cant remember which one) have astrology compatibility that affected chemistry?
@@sierrabird3817 Sims 3 and Sims 2
@@dibel3669 yess thank you. Sims 2 was my favorite
Sims 4 manages to spark my imagination and then kill it as soon as I start playing. I’ve tried and I’ve tried to become engrossed by the game like I was with sims 3, but I just can’t. The way the game is just makes it impossible.
Is anyone going to talk about how irritating it is when sims use the bathroom sink to wash dishes instead of the kitchen sink??? like ITS COMMON SENSE
wow. this video is how ive been feeling about Sims 4 in a nutshell.