Why It's a Better Game - HUGE Differences Between Sims 3 and 4
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You notice some things when you play The Sims 3 after years of playing The Sims 4. So many things provide deeper and more interesting gameplay, despite Sims 3's occasional issues.
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This is kind of depressing. Sims 4 was never the game this community deserved.
Woah _optical illusion_
Blame it on them pulling an online Sims 4 multiplayer game ... sims 4 lacks so much because of that. Pretty sure it happened in 2012 (when they pulled the plug) because there’s a promotional trailer out there for it (circa 2012) before the initial 2014 release. Also 2014? Damn it’s been SIX YEARS and counting... lmao
Agreed.
And as much as people ask for different things to make Sims 4 better, it kind of sucks because there's really nothing they can do at this point to make Sims 4 as good as it should've been. So many fundamental parts of the base game are lacking that it would be impossible to incorporate them without completely changing the game. Such as the one dimensional personalities, the interpersonal relationships, the fact that families don't feel like actual families, etc.
Julie and not menton core game mechanics. Townies generate after every loading screen, new worlds are automatically put into new and old saves without a deletion feature (which is annoying for people who want to make a full world save), the culling in the sims 4 iirc is rather quick (I feel like more quick than TS3) and even will cull dead family members in active families, the hybridization system is not supported anymore (probably because of the the tier system (which I like but they could’ve found a way to make hybrids compatible somehow) and the new UI designs for each occult), relationships with non active families and NPCs die rather quickly lol, Ghosts are bland in death types and emotions, townie NPC job selection is rather odd considering employed sims can even be NPCs as well as played jobless Sims (which I feel can be crucial to atmosphere ... Nancy Landgraab and Don Lothario aren’t Jack of All Trades even though if there was that aspiration it’d be cool to see your played sim be an NPC while you play in another household but... they won’t do that lol), broken tutorial (which I believe is still broken. Well in my game it is lmao), simulation lag in between tasks and multitasking, and so much more mechanic issues.... people think TS4 doesn’t have ANY issues but every sim game does and will because EA and all triple A companies don’t care about core mechanics, glitches, and bugs. It’s sad they left TS2 and 3 in the dust and don’t even care to give those games some updates....
Sims 4 is the dystopian future from sims 3: into the future.
That's not very fair... At least the dystopian future had open worlds and colour wheels 😁
fleacythesheepgirl and vehicles lol
Lmaoooo
Shady boots lmaoo
@A Johnson Wait, where do Sims 4 sims go when they die?
We don't need a Sims 5, we need a Sims 3: Remastered edition with improved graphics, performance and everything in one package.
after gta remastered came out i dont think it would be a good idea. specially when nowdays we have tons of mods and scripts that can absolutely change the game and make it look like it was released a month ago.
@@maaaatxt there is a new game patch on the sims 3 made by Lazy Duchess , but if you have a not strong computer ( the sims 3 and 2 are impossible to play with a not strong conputer ) as mine it could not change
Yep! It's great as is, though. It at least plays decently on my current 5-year-old PC, despite having a mechanical hard drive. However, I'd kind of love for a couple quality of building tweaks from TS4 to be added retroactively into the Sims 3. I'm talking simple things, like the stair manipulation tool which is great! I also like the more modular bunk bed system they've FINALLY added! I'd just love to see a game that takes the best from ALL Sims games, and none of the crappy parts.
this. it was simply the Best Sims game, even if I am nostalgic as heck for Sims 2. Sims 4 killed my passion for the genre, it's just cut down half baked hollow successor that can't justify nickle and diming for content like the earlier games did.
And with memories! It was a great, simple feature that added a lot of depth.
I just miss the open world. Actually seeing your sims travel. Have their own cars. Or getting a ride. All that. When I first saw the world in Sims 4 I was baffled. How did they take such a massive step backwards?
I agree! The neighbourhood maps look like illustrations, no detail or character. And there’s about 5 households per neighbourhood. Like wtf
if they did open world in sims 4, it would be just like playing minecraft with realistic textures.. it will set your pc on fire. but yeah it would be way better if they did. could probably made open world enable/disable option for people with lower end pcs.
@@venn7276 well, I mean..there are way better games with open worlds than SIMS and they are even 100GB so why not? Sure, some.people won't be able to play it unless they upgrade their computer but still, SIMS 4 took a downgrade with that. They could concentrate more on gameplay rather than stuff. Packs after packs after packs with nonsense.
greediness and laziness :/
I know honestly it saddens me I barely play Sims 4 because it’s basically just a placeholder for DLC
I love that I can send the kids to the park to play with their friends while the parents are at home cooking and grandma is walking the dog. I can switch between all of them whenever I want without any loading screens. Makes you feel like you're controlling a real family.
This!! I hate that nothing gets done when the rest of the household is home. The toddlers are dying, the cat is running away when you back and homework isn't done.
You hit the nail in the head! I couldn't figure out for the life of me why I hated TS4 so much and is because of this. I love all of my Sims to have their own life. But if 1 of them goes out you can't control the rest.
I wouldn’t even mind switching between loading screens if they’d just REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD THEM TO DO! I hate getting everyone set to do something and then a kid has a club gathering. We head off to do that and I have to re-set all the others’ activities down in their little pictures, and when I get home 2 hours later my toddlers who’d just woken up and been fed when I left are starving and passing out on the floor.
This is why I could not get into Sims 4. It feels too disjointed
i honestly don't even leave the house on sims 4 after i established a family. sometimes i play with single sims with aging off and go out to meet other sims but the only reason why i'd ever leave the house with one sim of a family is if the heir is a young adult or close to it and they need to get a partner. then back to the house lot for another full generation
A small favourite in Sims 3 for me is that you actually see your neighbours go to work, come home EVERYTHING. Its the little things EA
Also the cars. It gives a sense seamlessness. I know the engine would not allow Cars in Sims 4 but if Sims 2 could do it, why not 4? Just show me my Sim getting on a car pool instead of just disappearing in the front lawn to go to work! I swear Sims 4 is probably the least immersive title in the series for me.
this, and when you live in suburban area, you can see kid from the nextdoor playing in their yard, i can even hear a baby crying from that very house
Exactly. I love being able to stalk other sims too
It always impressed me when my sims would go to work and school and I would see other sims arriving at the same time and going in with them
yeah and no loading screen for visiting neighbour home
"It's evolving, but backwards."
Lol fr
Fr! So sad! However I CAN build in sims 4. Not in sims 3
Remember when if you had a baby in sims 3 you would actually drive to the hospital and watch your sim go in, and come out with a baby in your arms. Now in sims 4 your sim teleports off screen, and reappears empty handed and a baby is randomly placed somewhere in your house. It’d actually be laughable if I hadn’t paid money for this.
If you have get to work you actually get to go to the hospital with them and see the baby be born.
ahhh fave part, still remember it like was yesterday.
@@qimatswift4829 it still tleports to the hospital, even sims 2 that did not had open world made the sims walk as much as they could before giving the loading screen, sims 4 have a small AREA the sims should walk to the end of that small area before it goes loading...
Not to mention, the taxi rides, you would be sitting in a cab with a big belly, and afterwards you would hold a baby on your arm IN THE CAB
@@qimatswift4829 and the baby magically teleport at the end. It’s still an active issue.
I feel like Sims4 was made to be watched, but the Sims3 was made to be played.
This comment!
When you put it like that, you're so true!
Facts
more like they played us
Genius!
I’ve been playing Sims 3 for years and still have stuff I haven’t tried. There’s so much depth in Sims 3. Sims 4 gets boring really fast.
I was amused at around 3:20 that I recognized the house shown. It's the same one my 'teacher' lives in located in the Appaloosa Plains town that comes with Pets. That floorplan and furniture setup is easy to spot. Yes, over 10 years playing and I still see 'new' things as well.
I agree! I’ve been playing sims 3 since it came out, and I’ve still never completed every career, every skill, and every lifetime wish. There is so much to do, and that’s what I enjoy about it compared to the sims 4. If I fell asleep playing the sims 3, it’s because I was tired. When I fall asleep playing the sims 4, it’s cause I’m bored.
@@AMCAAsh AMEN - same.
Agreed! I've been playing The Sims for 20yrs, the level of preoccupation was unmatched. S3 had me obsessed to a point where I would daydream about what I was going to do, explore, challenges, plans for certain families and still have vids of awesome storms and driving around town/snow days/prom/a meteor taking out one of my sims/police arriving at a neighbor's (hate that I never found out what happened but I was too concerned with trying to get my Al Simhara 3 day visa visitor, whom I met on vacation, to marry me so I was on time constraint). Originally I wasn't going to buy Sims 4 because I was so angry over so many things with the direction of the game but the build tools got me. I tried to like S4 but it's missing the core of what made the series great. The only thing to do with S4 is create a sim, find/build/gallery a home, decorate it then live for like 2 sim days in my creation and I'm bored AF. I've gone into S4 2x this year, about the same last yr and once each year prior. I just can't be bothered to care about anything that game nor those sims have to offer. S3, I was in game all weekend -every weekend and would spend vacation playing for days. With a better spec'd out pc build I decided to go back and stop trying with S4. I regret one thing, not doing it sooner.
I remember being a teen when sims 4 came out and I told my friend to ask her mom for sims 3 instead but her mom was like "no this is newer" and I remember playing it and after about 30 minutes playing with CAS I was bored. I did some gameplay and I just kinda said "eh I'm over it" and I really wanted to like it. It was nice to give my sims a big butt but after that it was meh
In Sims 4 you can't just have a date or some time with your friends. Whenever you go out with someone the other sims just come up to you and start chatting. Or even more awkward when you have a date in a cafe and complete strangers just come up to your table and start eating with you. Like wtf? Everyone seems to talk to each other and everything goes together. This is really frustrating.
Or when you get invited to a place it take you there instantly...
You're saying it never happens in other Sims games? Maybe you should play them again and tell me if it still holds true.
@@kiillabytez 6:59 I'd bet my entire paycheck that person grabbing food would've started talking if this was sims 4. _or_ even more likely, your sim would automatically add them to the conversation just because of proximity. Nothing like saying something to 1 person and 2 more join in.
@@PlatoonGoon Sims are friendly. Are you anti-social or something? Try socializing in a more secluded location next time.
@Živilė Dulevičiūtė sounds like you're the one getting butt-hurt over my comment. Why is that, do you think? Maybe because you're a fanboy who doesn't see anyone's opinion but your own.
Sims 3 felt real. I could play this game for hours and get immersed into it. Sims 4 doesn’t have that same feeling. I get bored within creating my first Sim to move in, and the worlds in 4 are kind of boring too. With how long Sims 4 has been out, I definitely expected better.
I remember staying up for hours and having to stop myself when playing the sims 3. Now? The sims 4 just bores me
@@amani.1865 It actually puts me to sleep 😂 If you ever have sleeping troubles just play this game for a couple of minutes lol
Exactly
@@tallshortperson strange behavior for a video game, especially for The Sims
2 years later, it is still not getting better.
I really miss the sims 3 style of story progression. Random sims will get married, have babies without any input from me. That just doesn't happen in the sims 4 🙁
@LS AE it is an option in TS3. You can disable story progression, if you want.
I think that's my biggest pet peeve with TS4
What about teenagers? Sims from school would call and ask to hang out, go on a date or ignore curfew. And random pregnancies were a thing; if your Sim was cheating, she could get pregnant without the player triggering it.
I still like sims 3 but i've seen sims 4 townies that are couples but not married suddenly become spouses and have the same last name so there is sometimes progression
Actually that kinda does happen .from time to time I always see Sims already married with a random sim and have kids .problem is that the rich SIM will move into the poor Sims home and lose all that income . Watched all langraab fam go from rich to poor
i swear if they optimized the sims 3 and maybe gave the graphics a little face lift, it'd be flying off the shelves.
But they cant, Maxis no longer exist. There's no competent dev in core EA company. All they do is hook all small intersting studios and suck'm dry.
Cauhs Crymdorn thats what they did to bioware as well 🙁
I really wish they would take some of the building aspects from Sims 4 but then take the overall game play of the Sims 3 and put it on to one game I think things like the Parenthood expansion pack for The Sims 4 was actually cool idea take that and mash it up with generations to make an expansion pack I really liked the cool supernatural stuff in the Sims 3 that they never really added back into The Sims 4 I like the concept of being able to stretch around the features on your sim to customize them I really think if a Sims 5 is ever made and it is a combination of the Sims 3 and Sims 4 but in a very specific way that it would be a major success
I still play Sims 3 only. I got me some skins that make the Sims look more realistic, better clothing, hairs and furniture. I can put fricking Da Vinci painting replikas in my house!
All it would take for me is the optimization and bug fixesand I'm good to go
Sims 4: Make your perfect sim, build your perfect home and live a perfect life! Nothing Matters, you rule everything, everything is beautiful, shiny and rainbows everywhere. Sims 3: Dude, are you high? Get real. I’ll make a neurotic insane sim that live in a dumpster and explode and steal things around your neighborhood, maybe he’ll be arrested.
sims can literally have psychotic episodes and be admitted to the hospital for instability it is the most unhinged game in the series. there will never be another sims 3, I dont think EA could even get away with a lot of it these days 😭
sims 4 more like dressup game at this point honestly
also, don't forget you are under the constant threat of thieves breaking into your house! ooor that you can also curse sims you don't like and make their homes be attacked by ghosts, and not just buy a voodoo doll online which only allows you to make other sims pee themselves...
i raged quit like 8yrs ago now im older wanna play again xD house kept catching fire and i kept getting robbed and my dogs did nothing xD i had like 3
@@mishkawolfforever5951 You gotta get the little alarm and put it on the OUTSIDE of the house. Then the alarm goes off as soon as the burglar steps onto your property and they can't steal outside stuff.
I actually never bought Sims 4.... I heard about all the things they changed and decided to keep my Sims 3. So worth it.
Smart
Yeaaahh, me too and I love my sims 3 😭🥳
Same
me too
I played it for the sake of fanning, but I didn’t “invest” in it, because I wasn’t a huge fan. I sample them through torrents and if I like it I pay for it
My favorite part about the Sims 3 is the fact that the townies actually have a life, they have plans each day and their own personalities. Sims 4 townies seem to just... exist.
Truee 📢
this might sound like a stupid example but it's the same deal in the newer animal crossing games as well. in animal crossing wild world the dialogue was always so interesting and now in new horizons i never talk to the villagers because they just straight up bore me with their empty words. Same as with the Sims unfortunately
Every Sim just exists! I'm so used to the Sims from 2 and 3 to have wild wishes that could potentially destroy the peace in a whole town! Now it's just "hey Amanda uuugh sooooo got any nice wishes? Oh! There's one! Oh... Talk to someone... yeah no, just go to the bathroom"
And the same ones show up everywhere! It doesn't matter what location you're in - downtown, jungle, "secret" magical world - you're still going to run into the same townies over and over. It gets boring.
Yeah if you saw something happening there'd be evidence it really happened. So that baby you saw born would actually be in the household and if you invited your gf to a bunch of parties and saw them talking to your friends she would know your friends when she moved kn
I honestly miss the school bus, seeing my kids get on the bus made me feel like a real parent lol
Yo same and when you have more than one kid they sit together on the bus
And when they run before they even Finishing their breakfast.
Or having the parent drive the kids to school too :)
Same
Seriously . And if they missed the bus you had the opportunity to take them to school .
What i absolutely love the most in the sims 3, is that you can handle multiple sims in different locations at the same time. I can check on one of my sims running the resort in island paradise, while my other sim is diving underwater, and one more sim is shopping for groceries. I can check on those 3 sims at the exact same time, with no loading screens.
Ahh this is a bit disingenuous. sims 3 doesnt run very well, saying you have no lag or loading is just your memory. Isla paradiso crashes the game for most people.
@@jaybee4288 nah man, with a somewhat modern pc you don't have loading longer than 1 seconds. The Isla is just badly programmed. See 8:30 of this video
@@jaybee4288cut the point still stands- you can control all the sims in one world, no loading screens that would separate them- no matter the lag of a world. there's mods that help with the performance issues, there's no mod that makes sims 4 an actually playable game without spending money and buying every new dlc
@@jaybee4288 Isla Paradiso never crashed once for me, even on release day when I was using the family PC before I was old enough to build a dedicated gaming rig. Stop playing it on a Walmart laptop running a Pentium maybe? I sincerely doubt modern parts would run as terribly as you suggest.
@@jaybee4288 When I played Isla Paradiso on my clunky and absolutely ancient Toshiba laptop I never had it crash on me once.
9:44 Once I went to the saloon to get a new hair style and there's this woman on labor, I took her to the hospital in my car and waited until the baby was born. I even got the positive humor thing about the 'new baby' It was so random, but awesome haha
Thank you for reminding everyone that the technology of Sims 3 was created in 2009... surely recreating it now would use good enough technology to remove lag!! I miss open worlds and story progression
I am sure, though, that creating something similar would have been possible - if the technology worked with 32-bit systems with a limited amount of RAM and processing power, a newer technology, making use of 64-bit and modern processors (not to mention modern graphics cards) should have made it even easier.
Actually they started making TS3 in 2004/2005 ish so even earlier! I’m amazed with how good this game is for its time.
@Dwight [SCHRUTE] I hope it's going to be better and not worse.
With a competent development team, yes. I'm not sure those in charge of The Sims know what optimisation means.
Most lag on modern hardware in The Sims 3 occurs because there's essentially no world cleanup built-in and various behaviors compound it. Over the course of a few days there will be _hundreds_ of cars that got "left behind" by their driver and while they aren't visible, they're being tracked in the background. One of the hardest tasks for the game to handle is long-range pathfinding for the hundreds of people in town, and this is made disastrous by the world maps that came with the game having broken paths everywhere. By simply getting ahold of the fixed maps before you start a fresh game and adding a couple NRAAS mods (namely Overwatch) that catch stuck sims clogging up the pathfinder and clean up the digital garbage in town every sim-night, the game becomes much more smooth and stable. Add in Story Progression to more realistically handle the lives of people in the neighborhood (though be sure to use the options added to the town hall to disable getting notifications about every event in every townie's life...unless you're crazy enough to want that; I set it to blood relatives only) and you have basically the "Fixed Vanilla" Sims 3 experience. Then you can start piling in more NRAAS mods to really flesh it out.
I feel like soon as they updated their graphics to be in Sims 4 they were like: Perfect, now we can be lazy w everything else.
Graphics, multitasking, emotions. I only really appreciate the multitasking.
I hate TS4 cartoonish mobile game graphics.
@@Miss_Distress the emotion system in the sims 4 is pure trash
Actually this is how games are done these days
The sims mobile came out after ts4 lets not say it looks like a mobile game bc TS2 looks like freeplay
Playing the Sims 4 made me appreciate the Sims 3 all over again. My ex may have been a bad decision but his gift of the Sims 3 base game on launch is still one of the best/most thoughtful gifts I have ever been given. It's given me hundreds of hours of fun and enjoyment, and taught me new skills (creating my own items/CAS styles/the neighborhood builder/etc). All hail Sims 3.
The Sims 3: She's got a point, She's an Icon, She's a legend, and she is the MOMENT! The Sims 2: She's got a point, She's an Icon, and a legend The Sims 1: She's an Icon Sims 4: she passed away?....awww.....Alright...
Isn’t vikram a boys name? Why did you expect to like a game about babies and flowers? you gay? 🤔
@@jaybee4288 As a matter of fact, I am
What are you, 12? @@jaybee4288
@@vikramsureswarannaidu7248 ate
@@jaybee4288 You into him, bro? You wanna give him babies and flowers?
Sims 4 has turned into a “dress your sim up”, or “make a perfect life and get bored” type game. I’m thinking of going back to sims 3 for a real simulation game 👌🏾
Yup all I do is decorate and dress the sims. After that there's nothing else to do
I sure am!!!
Agreed, I only download CC and make my Sims lol
The sims 4 is so boring. I could only go 10 seconds in and go "welp that's all I can do in this game" and then leave
I still play it to this day sims 4 could never
I will never understand people who backlash The Sims 3 to make The Sims 4 look better! GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE A GAME!
No, but it's "easier" to play a game where stuff looks good. I think the graphics are really bad in TS3, at least on my computer (which is a very good computer), but I don't care - I still play TS3 😅
Trude And the sims are so ugly no matter what you do and yes aesthetics matter in a game. You have to stare it for hours.
my gripe with TS3 is that's full of bugs, ghosts driving cars, you needing to manually clear the cache and many many others!
I like how sims 3 looks a lot more than sims 4. I dont understand people either, the putty sims are in 4, and they all look the same 🤷♀️
@@drake713 Nah Sims 4 did well with how characters look and objects too . It's the features and everything else that Sims 3 did better
Also something I noticed recently playing Sims 3 when switching from a very low income family to an extremely high income one: IT ACTUALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. My high income family constantly have so many positive moodlets from their surroundings, even when their needs are at their lowest they've never once dropped below yellow. The kids get their basic toddler skills within 2 to 3 days, then spend the rest of that time being doted on, learning the secondary toddler skills and generally making use of the extra actions included in Generations. The low income family meanwhile were always having their appliances break, always juggling who fixed what based on if their mood was high enough to fix it, the kids barely ever got all their toddler skills or it was a rush if they did, and only had the secondary skills because it kept them busy while the adults did more important stuff. Whereas in the sims 4, regardless of if the emotion the sim is having is positive or negative, all of them have to stand there gushing about it for three hours or randomly decide to use the computer before they take care of their kids. Rich kids and poor kids get pretty much the same opportunities and skills because the game is holding your hand constantly never letting you make a mistake that has actual consequences.
never forget that sims 4 made us pay $40 for rain
It’s like you never played Sims 2 Seasons
FOULL 😭
@@qimatswift4829 or Sims 3 seasons lol
YOU'RE SHlTTING ME
Open world is definitely the thing I miss the most. I'd rather have a slightly chunky world I can explore than sit through a 3-minute loading screen to visit my neighbor
Exactly!i don't like to wait 3 damn minutes just to visit my neighbor which is my NEXT DOOR neighbor
@Merciless Freak facts
@Merciless Freak but it's annoying. It breaks the rhythm
@Merciless Freak Its under 5 seconds, however it breaks the gameplay. every time I see a loading screen only thing on my mind is to turn off the game. PS: I get the engine cant run 50-60 lots at once, but 6 houses around, or even 3 flats on one floor is managable even by old consoles....
I play on ps4 (don’t have a pc) and in city living it takes about 2-3 minutes to load the apartment room next to mine, even though both of our rooms aren’t even as big as some of the mansions and penthouses you can live in...
It is so awkward in the sims 4 how sims will default into a non-talking state at the table and when you prompt them to talk they all get up and hug each other like they weren't just having a family meal a second ago. And then it's like-no-no-no sit DOWN. AND THEN EVERYONE IS TWO HOURS LATE FOR WORK/SCHOOL AND THEIR MEAL BAR ISN'T EVEN FULLLLL
And then at that point you give up and just put the speed on 3x and set your controller down to watch their small idiot brains struggle to survive on their own without you micromanaging their every move
My sims did this once and I literally turned of my Xboxs and didn’t play for a month because I was so annoyed
Omg that's me!! "No! What are you doing?! Sit down and eat the cereal! Omg sit and eat the cereal!!! NO YOURE NOT MAKING COFFEE!!" Thats another thing! Why do they always want to make coffee? Me: Watch tv. Sim: Um.. Nah. I'm gonna make some coffee. Me: Oh you're gonna pee your pants! Go to the bathroom. Sim: I'm gonna get the beans from cans? Ok I'll go brew some coffee. Me: 😐 😒
@@jennayyye2525 i automatically delete the computes in each game bc they ALWAYS play gamed.. hungry, go eat.. no im sbout to play a game omg
@@twinkharrylwt226 Playing computer games is much more important than starving to death lol
The biggest thing for me was the fact in Sims Pets you can actually control and be the pets. Not in the newer one though.
And the sims 3 pets is the most complete pet pack, the sims 4 just chopped a full pet pack into different smaller DLCs (cats and dogs, my first pet, cottage living and horse ranch)
I love the neighbourhood tasks Sims 3 gives you, depending on the skills you’re working on. Like cooking a meal and giving it to a neighbour, of fixing someone’s TV. It just adds another layer of realism. (Not that I’ve ever been asked to fix a stranger’s TV haha)
The sims also are very independent!!! I have a family of 5 and I am focusing in one of them. The rest of the family autonomosly prepare food, bathe, socialize and even do homework (the 3rd child entered the honour list all by themselves) while my teenager was out romancing an edgy teen in a cementery on full moon only to escape to china when her father punished her. It's really amazing
Now THAT sounds like the start of a Machinima that I would watch
@@Purpletenten07 right now she made a lot of money on china so the family has a nicer house now. The parents feel incompetent fhjkshh
Ooh is she a tomb raider?
@@phoenixliv kinda! I was surprised to find out that a teen can go on vacation by themselves (maybe It was nraas but i only use storyprogression) so now the plan IS making her a rockstar and a tomb raider, like a good wattpad story
I also love that in the sims 3. You can have someone focus on different stuff. Like, they can be an actor and also have a hobby. I feel that in the sims 4 some stuff is so overdone that I can't focus on actually having fun with my sims
I missed stuff like actually being about to grocery shop and buy books at the bookstore. I liked moving to New locations to be closer to work because you got there faster. I loved how the reputation system worked. I loved how you had history in your city and people really would remember what you did. Stuff like being caught cheating and the other sim divorcing you. I also miss family in general. The minute toddler wasn't in the game in the sims 4,I never made a family. Didn't see the point.
Omg the grocery shop!!! I've missed that so much!!
I miss this detailed mentality. I wish we had to buy more things.
@@FireFlysNeverDie I miss the robbers and police we used to get.. It was a big thing in the game!!
@@loront8983 forgetting to put security system and fire alarm and only remembering when they'd steal something important
@@Marinlss exactly!!! I miss that so much!! I always remembered me actually panicking and watching them take everything 🤣🤣🤣
We should remember that Sims 1-3 was done under the supervision of Will Wright, Co-Founder of Maxis game development studio. I feel he brought a lot of insight to the table to make the games have that feeling of simulation they were supposed to have. The first three games, even though graphically and technically different, still have that cohesiveness when looked at as a whole. Partly, because of common staples in the form of townies like The Thornes, the robbers, the maids, firefighters, etc, found throughout the series. But also because you get the feeling like you are in on the inside joke. The cozy anticipation that you will witness something crazy and unexpected in your playthrough every time you load your save is always worth it. The amount of satisfaction you got from taking your budding and bumbling business owner in Sims 2 Open for Business to a wealthy socialite Mogul who owns seven 5-star 🌟 spas making bank while enlightening your Townies tastes just as good as hot chocolate on a winter's night. I really enjoyed all the different aspects of the games and still play all of them at times. I did try to give Sims 4 a chance, but that enthusiasm was dead in the water when the login issues kept me from saving my game and my sims for the longest time. Then to see how empty the world felt of everything that should have been in a base game, and that there wasn't a "wink wink nudge nudge" feeling after waiting for it all day, I just shelved it indefinitely. Sims 4 is the only Sims game I didn't feel like getting any mods or CC for. It's that serious. I always get mods or CC for sims and have folders upon folders of them for previous titles. Maybe if Will Wright was also lead dev for Sims 4 it would have kept its cohesiveness, but now we'll never know. 🤔
Loved how you mentioned you "got lost in it". That's one of the amazing things about Sims 3, you don't just stick to one thing, you do many, you can become an astronaut that really likes to give other sims makeovers, who knows you can even switch jobs after a while so it's not just a hobby. You can be a chef with a sweet tooth for different cuisines like Egyptian or Chinese and you travel to those worlds to fully immerse in the culture and after a while, you've explored dozens of tombs! Sims 3 definitely has gameplay and a lot of things to do. Yes for those that play sims 3 for years becomes repetitive but never tiring because at the end of the day the game always has that randomness factor, strikes you when you least expect...like a meteor while you're fishing or a woman starts slapping her husband when you're talking to someone in the park. It's really fun, just like the previous game, sims 2. Random, chaotic, and really fun. I also really love the dramatic music that plays when you've reached level 10 of any skill. Gives it that "meaning". In sims 4 it's really meh. And don't underestimate, in sims 3 without mods it's challenging to improve any skill. They really nailed the difficulty, not too easy not too frustrating 10/10. Sims 4 is all over the place. And you technically don't need SSD or the newest pc to play sims 3 satisfactorily. I don't have any of those, my pc is 6yo and has an HDD. It doesn't load mega fast but at a decent rate. It depends on other factors besides SSD, like mods, amount of pointless features, etc. Loading screen can be interactive or normal. I understood why developers added an interactive loading screen. That way you could get reward points while you're waiting but it creates lag, you can deactivate those. Same with memories and the online features. After you tweaked the game, having an SSD is just convenient not a requirement really.
One thing I liked in Sims 3 was when you’d buy a cheap starter home, sometimes you’d get a pop up that was like “oh no there’s cockroaches” or trash or something & you had to basically clean up your house before you really lived in it. I don’t know why I liked that but it added something to the game. Now I wanna go play Sims 3.
Yep lol :D
Omg this is trigger that one swampy house in Twinbrook. A lot of roachs investation, and later at night there's buglar stoled my BBQ stove.
I miss those details so much 😭
OMG I remember that - I got a cheap starter house because it was damaged by a meteor so I had to clean and fix it up. I remember, it took so much effort to get it sorted, I was so broke but and once I did, because I put effort into bringing it up, I loved it to pieces and never moved just kept improving. Awesome stuff
I also like the haunted houses that you could interact with the past owner’s spirits in it!
am i the only one who actually loves ts3 aesthetics? i know the graphics may be bad in most of the computers, but i just really like it. the colors, the objects and the people feel more real, ts4 is kind of utopic . the sims 3 has a huge feeling of home for me, idk
yea like the raint days feel so familiar
agreed. the sims 3 has a comfy sort of feel to it, while sims 4 looks soulless. sims 3 houses look lived in but sims 4 houses just look like show homes.
For me Sims in TS4 look like they are made out of plasticine, it feels more like playing with toys than actively controlling someone's life
I agree, TS4 graphics looks so low detailed in comparison to TS3.
No lol! I don't mind it either
And for those still worried about the lag, there are mods now that reduce them significantly!
Can you Please suggest a few good ones for me :)
@@kingzamn45 NRaas overwatch is one I believe.
@@kingzamn45 ^i can confirm, i have all expansion packs and play in isla paradiso (laggiest, biggest town) and my game runs perfectly after downloading the overwatch mod!
@@ashlinmichelle7977 is the game even fun without buying dlcs? idk if i should get sims 3 but i read the reviews and they say its not worth it bc all the dlcs are like 20-30$
@@themo0nishot482 just pirate it
The more I play new games and old games and the more I learn about gaming in general I become more and more impressed with how ahead of its time sims 3 was, it’s truly incredible.
I'm one of those players that never left the sims 3. Beyond it being a "complete game" there's just so much more substance to Sims 3 as opposed to Sims 4. In 3 the Sims actually function like living beings. They have memories, they actually react to their surroundings, and each sim serves a purpose in their society. Sims 4 is great when you want to FEEL like you're making a unique sim but the game play is so copy and paste that every sim ends up feeling pretty much the same.
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I also never left the sims 3 and I'm very happy about it
I tried sims 4 for couple of weeks. Have to say its feel downgraded from sims 3 in every way.
Same!! I tried sims 4 for a day. I haven’t left the sims 3. I’m also a big fan of the storylines. The sims 3 was the actually first, then the sims, then the sims 2.
Yes!! I feel like the developers in Sims 1,2 and 3 actually cared about the game. Whereas now it just seemed sloppy and lazy like they were just in a rush to get paid or something, idk...
I feel scammed by The Sims 4. I actually feel like I let my money go down a drain.
All the packs are scam.
I think we all need to take a stand and not fork out anymore money on Sims 4 and then they won't have any choice but to cut their losses and move onto Sims 5.
Agreed. I have most of the Sims 4 packs. Haven’t cared to buy nifty knitting, eco living, and especially the Star Wars pack. ... Star Wars pack... Really? Maybe if it was a Star Trek pack... (seriously, no though)
Not to mention every loading screen creates more townies. It’s never ending
@@Mel-jh3sz We don't know if that one will be worse though...if they use the same team that is.
This really reminds me of how shocked I was when I discovered that Sims4 isn't a fully "open-world" anymore like its predecessor and downgraded into a somewhat "half-open" kind of world instead by having a seperate maps for different region / city, just like how it goes with Sims2. I really missed the ability to randomly roam around the city with cars or other vehicles in Sims3.
I never had a problem with the start loading screen, would always get it up and go and make a tea 🤣 by the time I'm back it's ready and no more load screens after that 😍😍😍
When a 2009 game still has more stuff than 2014 game that already have 6 years update
@EXTV Sims 3 base game kinda sucked but they improved it very quickly and each expansion pack added so much
In my opinion, Sims 3 Sims do have emotions, it's just not blatantly told to you. But you may zoom on them and see them smiling, or frowning, or looking angry, or mourning someone who's died. They don't have to tell you because the Sims show you. The only Sims that will drop their actions are ones with the absent-minded trait. Because it's done on purpose as part of that trait. They also have confused idle animations, like they're trying to remember something. If you invite a heavily pregnant sim to a party, it's inevitable that they will go into labor at the party. 😆 It's like murphy's law.
Oh, man. I had an absentminded child. She'd get as far as the school-yard and forget what she was doing. Honestly, Sims 2 had more expressive Sims though. It probably has the richest collection of subtle animations and unofficial actions.
@@BonaparteBardithion yep! I was talking about 3 because that's what the video is about, but Sims 2 sims are also very expressive and show their emotions!
I legit made my Sim self in sims 3 with the absent minded trait. I never felt so attacked in a game. It was just too accurate.
The absent-minded thing makes me thing about the fact that sims 3 traits were just more... interesting than the sims 4. Sims 4 traits feel like little buffs/debuffs, maybe with some random renamed interactions. A bookworm sim gets more fun reading books. That's it. There are so many traits in the sims 3, and they have much more of an impact on your sim's personality! That being said, absent-minded sims in a large household are mind-numbingly frustrating. Never again.
they may drop actions if the fails to find a valid route to the action tho, but this is normal even sims 1/sims2 does this, sims 4 cheats a bit more on this as it try to allow the sim to clip.
Sims 3 will always have an special place in my heart! I LOVE being able to ride horses and stuff. Plus, fairies and werewolves!!! Also, expansions really do compliment each other, they don't feel separated at all. I wish that it was possible to use The Sims 4 graphics on The Sims 3. =X
I agree with this massively - one of my biggest frustrations with TS4 is that you can buy an expansion, explore all its features, then buy a new expansion and then it’s suddenly like all the features of the other expansion don’t matter or have any bearing on actions made in the new expansion. They don’t have deep lasting impressions on the gameplay, only surface level, and they don’t interact with one another.
I love how Late Night introduced Vampires, and Supernatural went "Okay, I know we already have vamps in Late Night, but we're reintroducing them here as well with different features AND if you have both packs then both versions will be combined so it has everything from both packs." It was also neat how Seasons allowed vamps with parasols equipped to stay in the sun for as long as they want.
Came back here after a year to say I upgraded my lapotp to 16 GB and The Sims 3 loads super fast and runs without problems. It's soo much fun to play over TS4.
Not going to lie, this makes me want to play sims 3 >
Yes, Mods are incredibly important! It just helps the game to run faster and makes your experience more enjoyable. I never needed mods that added new game-play tho, because there is just sooo much to do in Sims 3. In Sims 4 you do the same thing everyday but in Sims 3 there is just so much to do that every day is different. And yeah, CC is important. I mainly use hair, make-up and skin cc because without it the sims just look really weird. Clothes cc doesn't really look good in Sims 3 imo, but that's just my taste
The only time I played the sims 3 is when it was in the Wii but I may get it on origin
@@cassie4923 for me the expansion are 20 dollars
Then play it
@@enderjesse9153 really? Not for me- 20$ is still a lot tho imo (I don't really have a lot of money, so I always try to look for cheaper options) 20$ is much more than 5-10$
I'll say it again and again: The Sims 4 is only good for building, and even that is often hard to match all the colors, etc without CC.
Oh does this piss me off. When I tell you I spent 30 min moving around some furniture in different lighting because for some damn reason, the sofa and loveseat from a single set just *slightly* don't match in one of the colours, and it's just noticeable enough to look weird indoors. Can it really be so hard to bring back the colour wheel at least :'( I don't really need to change the entire fabric of things all the time, but the limited colours they offer often seem like they deliberately picked the worst possible choices
@@chloedsmith YES SAME, I WANTED THEM GREEN AND THEY DIDNT GO FOR THE SAME SHADE OF GREEN (SLIGHTLY) it got me crazy
@@chloedsmith What I don't get is why they never put matching wood patterns/colors
I hate that they watered down the swatches so much. They couldn't atleast have made it like Sims 2, where you can change 2-3 different aspects/colors of the object?
@@chloedsmith I hear ya. That's one thing I love about TS3. I can create a bedroom and coordinating bathroom using the same 4 colors. I did that in a chateau I built that's loosely based on Chateau du Landgraab.
I love the Sims 3 and I believe it is the best sims yet, the endless customization options for furniture, clothes, textures, the big open worlds full of places to visit and build, the variety of well made expansion packs from this era, the more realistic-style graphics, etc., make this game by far superior than The Sims 4. I am a fan of the series and I´ve felt really disappointed of the Sims 4 since its release, it is very limited and boring to play, it almost feels like one of that mobile versions of The Sims compared to The Sims 3, which is the Sims version I still play today and plan to continue with until EA releases a new version AT LEAST as good as The Sims 3.
I remember the first time I played sims 4. I was SO disapointed in that game that I went back to sims 3 almost immidiatly. I have a few save files still on sims 4 but its very rarely for me to keep playing it. Sims 3 is and always will be my cuo of tea for sure😎
I'm thinking of getting Sims 4. What's so disappointing about it?
@@DarkZerol if you’ve ever played the previous games, then you’ll know. Sims 4 feels extremely lifeless😔
I did the same thing, I had really looked forward to sims 4 and remember being so disappointed with it.
I still can't believe how complete Sims 3 basegame is. I didn't realize it back then, but having gone back to it after Sims 4, it's painfully obvious. Sims 4 with 547 expansion and stuff packs and is still lacking in basic gameplay. It's a shame really, because I love Sims 4 and there was a huge potential to it. The world, the graphics, CAS and the build mode were all innovative. I wish EA could revisit Sims 3 and learn from it 😕
The world is absolutely not an innovation in TS4. It may look pretty, but it's only set dressing. Can't even interact with your neighbor's house from across the street without a loading screen
@@thomoclock You are right. I guess what I meant was that it has better graphics. But yes, all the changes and "innovations" were on a surface level. And don't get me started on the constant loading screens 😭
@@stardust6054 I don't you if you played The Sims 2 but that's what annoys me the most, they have 3 million loading screens in TS4 and no gameplay! How come they were able to give us Gameplay with TS2 with the same restrictions but can't on TS4? We had cars, we had meaningful relationships with co-workers, we had a lot of different hobbies, our sims had defined personalities and if we compare TS4 with TS3 a full masacre starts so I won't go there hahahaha
@@tycoonsimmer Exactly!
@@tycoonsimmer Cars offer the same amount of gameplay as the gerbil from My First Pet Stuff.
Sooo glad you mentioned “fighting your sims”. Remember the “Absent-minded” trait in sims 3? ALL the sims have it in Sims 4. So annoying.
Yes! Playing Sims 4 sometimes makes me so angry because I'll tell a sim to do something 3-4 times before they actually do it! Why???
They have SOOOOO many traits that actually play a role and make your Sim more realistic. For example, Clumsy sims. In Sims 3, they have SO MUCH little quirks - tripping over nothing, when there’s a fire and extinguish themselves, accidentally drop something, when proposing they almost drop the ring, to name a view. While in Sims 4, i can only tell they’re clumsy because they break the dishes when washing. That’s it.
@@NsTheName Turn off free will if you have only 1 or 2 sims. It helps a bit
@@Pauliyd466Gaming Yeah, I do that sometimes, but typically I play with big families, haha, so it's a double edged sword.
@@NsTheName you can turn off free will for selected sims, which is the one you will play the most honestly, i will move some 2 or 3 children and buy new house for them... so theyve become npc
You know, some of that's what I've been saying from the start. I mean, they tried to hype the multitasking, and people were buying into it being new, but TS3 actually automatically did that when it made sense. It's not just when eating at the same table. It's also stuff like in TS4 I have to explicitly queue up listening to the music playing on the stereo while my sim is doing some work, for the music to do anything, while in TS3 it just improves the ambience like you'd expect it to. Or even talking to each other, it happens in a lot more situations in TS3, and has been since TS2 at the very least. E.g., if I have someone reading a book on the sofa, while someone else is watching the TV, while someone else is eating at a nearby table, while someone else uses the treadmill nearby, all 4 of them will just talk to each other even if I don't explicitly queue it myself. E.g., IIRC in TS3 my Sim can answer the cell phone while using the toilet, or conversely if he was using the tablet and I tell him to sit on the porcelain throne, yeah, he'll do both at the same time. TS4 did very little to expand on that. It mostly just made it an extra chore, that you have to queue up yourself instead of it happening automatically like in TS3 (and in fact some of it since TS1.) It's a step BACK in gameplay, yet they kept acting like it's some brand new feature. Or take emotions. The Sims 3 had emotions in conversation, not just the general moodlets. If you pay attention, you'll see that a conversation can now get to be awkward, or your conversation partner can be creeped out, or they can be bored, or amused or whatever. But that's kinda the thing: they kept it to where it is realistic, rather than making everything depend on it. It also was a part of the gameplay. You had to actually steer the conversation to get those results, not just hang a painting on the kitchen wall and suddenly everyone is inspired. Again, far from it being an improvement to gameplay, the TS4 version was actually a step back. It made it a mechanical and meaningless thing, as opposed to something that actually involves any gameplay.
something i like about the older sims games, especially the sims 3, is that it feels harder. you actually have to work to get to your goal or to fix your relationship after you cheated, meanwhile in the sims 4, you can easily fix things in just a few steps.
I met my sims' descendants in the future, and they were very poor that they make a self-deprecating joke about it. I remember I was so sad when I met them. I get my sims work their butt off and now they have 200k simoleons with 3 children. Their descendants are blooming and they now have mother lode status lol. I'm so proud. Never had that kind of storyline in ts4.
I never played the future expansion pack before, but that is such an amazing detail!
I downloaded the Sims 2 a week ago and made a college girl, because I reeeaaaally missed the university gameplay and guess what, she thought another girl in her dorm was hot, I made her talk to her, they dated and got married after graduating and for whatever reason there's now a weird love triangle between her, her wife and a chick she once flirted with, a lot of drama, a lot of throwing hands and pulling wigs, the Sims 4 could NEVER!
Amazing!!!
@@birdgirl8390 I love that lol XD TS3 & TS3 have some really fun college stuff!!!
@@GottaGoBlast yess! And i also want my sims to be remembered as the 'hero' statues in the future, so i had to do things in the present time (like side quests lol). TS3 is so fun because we have many quests to do other than making a family
We need a Sims 3 remastered. Fix the memory leaks, fix performance. Re-release.
They attempted this when Apple completely dropped support for ALL 32 bit games. EA quickly jumped in with a 64 bit version. Emphasis on "quickly." They were so concerned about losing a cash cow (packs are still full price on Origin and the store still has a loyal following) that they felt it was finally time to rewrite the underpinning program. Badly. I have several friends who rushed to install this thinking that it would take away the main downfall, memory management. They were horribly disappointed with how much WORSE the performance was. For that reason, I am quite content playing my glitchy original rather than risk a forced "upgrade."
We don't even need a remastered for that. Modders have gotten on top of that ages ago. Check out Nraas's Overwatch and other mods from that site. Sims 3 with some optimisation mods is, essentially, the perfect Sims game. It's not surprising that the only way to go was down.
@@Hekateras I agree. I use NRaas mods all the time. I just feel that EA should produce games that don't require people who are not employees to fix.
It ill never happen but one can dream
This made me miss Sims 3 so much :(( I'm one of those few people that actually prefere Sims 3 to Sims 2 because Sims 2 is just too overdramatic for me and Sims 3 is the perfect middle ground between full-on-drama and lifeless humans
The ability to make insane amount of family generations in sims 3 got me playing it. And the fact that sims there actually has a "mind" of their own and do what they want to do. I just love seeing that. Truly an open-world life simulation game
I agree the goals in sims 4 are ridiculous. "I wanna kiss 20 people, have 10 boyfriends" wtf
To be fair, Sims 3 actually had that last wish xDD. It was called "Heartbreaker"
Or.... "I want to become enemies with my own child" o.o
@@SimsAllAround yeah but in the 3 is harder to get a boyfriend at least😭 you say hi in the sims 4 and the next day you are married(??
@@naomileggoneverland6267 Right?! XD
@@SimsAllAround That was a lifetime wish in Sims 3 though, you had to choose it. In 4 it can just pop up.
I feel like I didn’t NEED mods with Sims 3. Sims 4, however, I can’t play without them. And it sucks.
and you have to constantly update them.
Sims 3 wasn't without issues. The first mod I downloaded (of many) was to solve an overagressive story progression not checking if a Sim was a minor before killing them off-screen. Now that's less of a problem. It's old enough that they worked out most of the game-breaking glitches. And since the game no longer updates, the majority of mods are stable too.
Exactly
This!!! I have so many gameplay mods in sims 4 but sims 3 doesn’t need it!!
Yes but one has to admit that Nraas Mods are really good. Overwatch, Master Controller, Errortrap, Debug Enabler and Story Progression are part of those mods I use a lot for my The Sims 3 games.
In the Sims 3 I play most of the whole town. I have generations of sims playing on basically the longest lifespan with shortening infants and tots a little. I have a whole story with a range of personalities and characters. When I bought Sims 4 I can't really do that and make the town as rich and detailed as I had in the Sims 3. So I still play the Sims 3 and love it. I do use NRAAS so I can customize their lives even more and can make my town bigger than the vanilla game allows. I would love to see them go back to the open world to the level of sims 3 but it would be tough to transition as I have played this town 3 years now and am quite invested in it.
Im a new simmer and I started with Sims 4. Bought a ton of packs but figured it out kinda fast. Then I found out about sims 3. I thought it was gonna be bad because usually newer is better. Its now my favorite. It not too easy and theres so many details that make it enjoyable. And the open world is great for playing big households.
Sometimes people complain about TS3's create a style saying "it takes to long, you'd never customize everything, too many options blah blah", but like, maybe the interface for Build/Buy is terrible in TS3 and it takes forever to find anything after you've gotten used to TS4's search bar, but if there's one thing that is designed to be easy and fast to use, it's Create-a-Style. Say you want everything to share a certain feature or color. You can very quickly and easily save the hex code or save the swatch in just quickly repeat across all your items. Seriously, Create-a-Style was so amazing.
You can also just drag the pattern straight from create-a-style on to all the furniture without saving it anywhere! Something that I didn't realize for many years, but it saves sooo much time if you need many things to have the same color/pattern.
And you can dl absolutely amazingly looking patterns and use them on like EVERYTHING! Flowers on a couch? Sure! Flowers on a wall? Sure! Flowers on a jacket? Ofcourse! It was so handy.
You can barely mix and match all the ts4 packs build items with eachother because their wood colors and patterns are so different. I hope I'm making sense but everytime I find a floor that goes with the walls but the colors don't match, I immediately think back at ts3. I mostly build with ts4 and can barely get past 4 [in game] weeks of playing before I'm bored and delete the family.
Create A Style was present in Sims Medieval as well. Pretty awesome.
Yep, I loved creating my own custom bathroom sets and nurseries, kitchens, you name it ^_^
Sims 4 is only pretty to look at. It has became a chore to play. And I hate that.
Only mods makes this game playable
@@sof9005 exactly i won't buy any pack in the future, only missing is Get To Work because many mods that I want to try out are required Get To Work
The only thing that's actually "pretty to look at" in TS4 are shadows, thats it.
@@LucyMusic1999 tbh get to work is one of the best packs for TS4.
Exactly! I can improve how Sims looks with default replacements and other cc and there's so much to do I don't care about their looks that much
I redownloaded Sims 3 yesterday and bought some packs on origin never got to play in my childhood- I felt the difference from the very beginning, as soon as my sim actually took a taxi to the library and I could indeed follow her from her front door to the library steps.
I can totally agree with you, It seems like EA is making the newer sims games cheaper, Not in price but in how much they are spending on the games
In The Sims 3 i didnt need mods to have fun. In The Sims 4 however, mods was a must for me. Mods are not supposed to carry a game
you acctualy needmods for the sims 3 to be playable without extreme bugs, error trap and overwatch are essential tho, however the mods we use for sims 3, its to solve "Problems" not for the lack of gameplay, on sims 4 it may have less bugs but the mods we use are things that add more gameplay because it lack it.
@@gabrielandy9272 thats not true. i have never used mods on my game, yet it still works perfectly most of the time.
@@simo-tn9mj I doubt it because computer are math based and most of the game problems are on the game code meaning you may not see the issue but it's still there like Sims abandoned the cars at the garages so the community lots have abandoned cars and the garages are never free, this is just one example.
@@gabrielandy9272 lol what? i never modded my sims 3. i only added a little bit of cc.
@@captainngoose then you have some bugs that are in the code of the game like sims abandoning cars in public park spaces as the time in game goes on all the slots will be fillled with cars without a owner its a bug, and the list goes on and on.... Its not game breaking just little annoying things
Ah, I'd overlooked how time-consuming simply eating is in the Sims 4. Cooking too is also really slow. The Sims 4's multitasking system can actually make doing mundane tasks even more of a chore.
Took my sim 45 sim minutes to make a grilled cheese. She was late to work so she didnt even have time to eat said grilled cheese. Its so ridiculous how long everything takes.
It's a lie to call it multitasking at all. Sims 3 actively does multitasking better than Sims 4. Go play Sims 4 and have them multitask. Pay careful attention to their needs bars as they do so. You'll quickly notice there's no multitasking at all, but rather the game will swap the task in and out periodically. For example if two sims watch a movie, they'll probably start socializing cause heaven forbid anyone goes 2 seconds without socializing in Sims 4, and during this time, their fun will freeze and cease to raise. Their social however will actively raise. They'll then stop socializing and watch the movie a bit before social jumps back in, and now social stops and fun raises. The end result is less desirable because you actually get less fun fulfillment than if you watched the movie alone, and less fun + social fulfillment than ANY other Sims game. This extends to every multitasking combo. Eating food and socializing, raising a skill and socializing, playing chess and socializing...you name it. It makes the multitasking system an active detriment BECAUSE the game is so obsessed with social and practically bombards you with random yahoos wanting to chat. It means you constantly have to "defend your sim" and delete any social requests just so that you can gain the damned logic skill, and eating breakfast before work is actively slowed down by social. To my knowledge the only "multitask" that achieves the desired result is Sims fishing next to each other periodically gain social, though they don't even chat and it's really more of a social reward for sharing a common interest.
It took 1,5 hour to eat.
Yes and for god's sake who can actually talk to someone else while trying to read a book???
Sometimes they dont eat the food they made and go to sleep and you cant cancel it sometimes and the food just gets bad
I used to have my teen go to school on their horse. Miss that so much lmao
I loved the skill challenges in Sims 3! They gave you a reason to do the skill even after you've maxed it.
I recently revisited both 2 and 3. I was so overwhelmed by how the Sims in Sims 2 felt like actual individuals and not puppets, and how the gameplay was so rewarding in the Sims 3! I haven't play 4 in a while...don't know when I'll try it again, either.
@Skip Oliva I never got to play sims 2, but I love university expansions. I loved that in the sims 3 every night someone had a party going on, it was so much fun
@Dwight [SCHRUTE] Haha I loved the cow XD and the Llama is fun too!!!
@Dwight [SCHRUTE] i love how either the cheerleader or the llama mascot would throw hands with the cow mascot 😂😂
one thing that pisses me off about the sims 4 is when i make characters that aren’t supposed to be as “happy-go-lucky” are always smiling like idiots when they’re feeling happy. like sure i guess it’s nice to see them smiling but no normal person walks around grinning incessantly and laughing to themselves when they’re happy, maybe a closed mouth smile would suffice. it just goes to show how little personality each sim in the sims 4 has despite what traits they’re given, they all end up feeling the same moods with the same intensities at the same time for the same reasons and they express them in the same ways :/
this !! the traits in ts4 are useless most of the time
Exactly! Sims in the Sims 4 feel like robots. They always comply everything you command them to do. Sims in The Sims 2 & 3 have more personalities. They can be upset when you tell them to do things they don’t like. Also, individual sims react differently to any given situations. Sims in the Sims 4 are just lifeless.
Emotions are a nice idea, but they're just not well implemented. "Happy" is just sort of the default, and their feelings bounce all over the place. The Meaningful Stories mod does make this a lot better and makes emotions fun to play with, but I shouldn't have to have a mod to make the main draw of a game good. Granted, I have a dozen mods in the Sims 3 to make it run properly and not crash, so maybe I'm a hypocrite...
The emotions part of the Sims 4 is a bit boring and off to me. Mainly embarrassment, or to be clear: death by embarrassment. I had a Sim die of being mortified so much they died. I was so shocked, I almost forgot to beg the Grim Reaper to resurrect them. I got them back fortunately. But that entire incident had put me off from Sims 4 so I'm going back to Sims 3, where my sim won't die because she peed in public
Yeah I don't like the emotional deaths very much. I really think the only reason I like the system is because that mod is doing the heavy lifting in terms of fun factor.
When 4 came out, I tried really hard to like it. It got boring really fast and that's not even addressing having to deal with loading screens almost every time you leave your home lot. I got some mods that helped a little and struggled through. It took a third or fourth game update breaking all my mods before I gave up. It just wasn't fun. I got frustrated when updates did this in 3, but I always impatiently rebuilt my mod catalog and eagerly got back to play. I went back to 3 and I never play 4. Also, as an unpopular opinion, I hate the way the charters look and move in 4. I don't want to play in loony tunes land. I liked having semi-realistic-looking sims and scenery.
I loved the story progression on The Sims 3! It gave Legacy Challenges a new level of realism because as time and generations went by on my Legacy, I could see other families and the town change and grow too. Even if I was mad when certain sims married others before my Sims could marry them 🤭
I love in Sims 3 that as I walk home from work, I can accidentally meet a friend and go out, or as I pass by a friend's house I just knock the door. The world of Sims 3 is so alive.
You can also die of starvation, if you try walking from one corner of the map to the other corner, especially if you use a custom map. lol.
@@Joeykm1972 that’s at least better than my toddlers starving to death because I went out and no-one took care of them while I was gone lmao
I just love that they don't automatically make the bed
The time is now to *actually* play extensive Sims 3 with advanced laptops. It runs really smooth now! Revisiting it again after failing to like Sims 4
Thank You! I have zero performance issues on my Samsung laptop. It's sooo smooth.
sims 2 had the best eating. if they were alone they would eat like in ts3 but when sorrounded by others they would always sit next to each other and have quick chats in between bites, unlike ts4 where they would have intervals of 3 hours
Right. If the kids need to have breakfast before school they have to wake up at 5 in the morning 😂 or leave half hungry
They take way too long to eat though. It was the most annoying eating for me. I prefer 3 and 4.
I mean, no joke, but the Sims subreddit has been loaded with people going back to TS3 after the last TS4 pack, myself included. It seems like the Sims community finally got shown what EA thinks of us with this last one and it's hard not to finally see what we lost. I know I've been a TS4 apologist for as long as the game has been out. Well, not anymore. Now if only I could get TS3 to run worth a damn, sh*t that game still takes a while to load and has an embarrassing frame rate.
I've reallyyyy been thinking about reinstallning TS3 and using all of those guides I see on Twitter to run it better. They're supposed to announce the next pack for TS4 in the coming weeks but the whole game is testing my patience. This video definitely reminded me of everything I miss about the old games :(
I am one of those who went back
Y’all recommend me a good computer and I’m running to sims 3
@@sandy80334 HP, it's about having a good processor. 500gb of storage at walmart. Intel
It's worth it in my opinion ^_^
One of the things that I miss most about Sims 3, which I've never heard anyone else speak about, is that in 3 the first time a sim goes to school they can make friends, but after that they can talk to the friends that they made on the first day. In Sims 4 they can only make friends not talk to established ones. Its harder to establish a friend group in Sims 4, you have to use the Get Together club system and make kids socialise
YES.
School in general is worse. I think it’s so weird that the kids don’t gain skills from going. Instead of adding to what the Sims 3 included, the Sims 4 takes features away.
There were also so many interactions for kids to actually play with each other instead of just talking!
I miss this. It’s ridiculous to have played with a family forever, to then realize your Sim child doesn’t know a single sim child in the neighborhood, despite going to school every day.
TS3 kids even ask their parents if a friend can come over after school, or if they can go to their friend's house.
I always loved 3🤷♀️ honestly my game glitches more with 4 than 3 and I hate the build mode for the most part! Way too few options. The Sims are prettier but babies are objects so ...... not a good trade off and you can always use CC
this video makes me smile . :^) you're spot-on with everything here, especially with the levels of difficulty and depth of skill-building! The skill journal made me OBSESSED with the photography skill in Sims 3 because it was more than just "reaching the next level", it was also about making your Sim get out of the house to try to capture these specific moments with their camera like "Lovers Kissing in France", and the more you achieved, the more simoleons your photographs would be worth so you could do it freelance! The goals for it even included things from other packs you'd installed, like you could seek out photographing a "Zombie Attack!" from Supernatural. Ugh, it's so rad I could talk about it for hours. And collecting things around the town and sending them off to be analyzed by the Science Facility is another obsession of mine, I miss it in Sims 4 !
Sims 3 is that kind of a game where I can play whole day on Speed 1 and not 3, because I actually enjoy watching what's happening around the world and my sim, Sims 4on the other hand, ... cant even play on Speed 3 XD
I never moved to Sims 4 and I spend most of my gameplay in Sims 3 in speed 1. Only spending it up when they're sleeping or at work haha
in sims 4 speed 3 is broken for most of the time lmao
@@xkasiek that’s what I was referring to
@@mazhylis12 i know
defenitely.. the amount of times i've just played on speed 1 and watched my sim do something mundane or just dancing to the music because i enjoyed watching them have fun 😂 (also when it comes to unique looking sims sims 3 TOPS sims 4.. like you can create Orcs if you want to.. create fucking spock 1 to 1 with just a normal sim.. in the sims 4 you can't even give your normal human sims pointy ears like WHAT)
I missed how Sims 3 was so challenging. I revisited World Adventure quite a few times and the tombs were so...creepy, one wrong move and you will die. It gave me the thrills every time. Or in Island Paradise, I had to constantly look around for sharks when diving, please people so my resort won’t get bad reviews or pull my hair out to find that god damn uncharted island. It was so frustrating, so real and I loved it!
Yessssss ^____^
World adventures was really one of my favorites. And each of the regions had a new skill you could develop added to the game. China had Martial Arts, France had Nectar Making and Egypt had photography.
I'm still trying to complete all the adventures and tomb relics collection until this day, so much challenge to play. My favorite pack! :D
World Adventure is such a nice pack even though it was one of the earliest that came out. Jungle adventure in the sims 4 has better loooks but dosen't hold a candle towards the gameplay and the athmosphere. No rabbithole missions ore adventures in WA. And it is actually fun to solve the puzzles and discover the mysteries of each country
@@stellasternchen it was also fun to make your own puzzles and tombs
I still play the Sims 3 and consult your guides all the time (really almost every time I play I visit your site). Thank you for keeping it up!
There was one problem i had with Sims 3. Save corruption. Happened twice and on both was when i had much activities with them (family, going on vacation, exploring new worlds, new jobs, maxing out all skills etc.). It happened during 2012 when i had so-so computer (which did sound like an airplane taking off). Also my favorite experience in Sims 3 was Seasons. Making angels, snowman, snow fights and actual wardrobe at the door. Plus the raining and umbrella (if you don't have then your Sim be soaked). I remember washing machine, but that was optional. It was good to use and can delete it anytime you want after you're bored of collecting clothes and feeling fresh everytime you wash Sim clothes. Personally i liked Seasons music in 2 and 3. And then i remember making Sim robot which was rng. Wanted to get clored one, like the one they promoted in trailer but mostly got silver or rusty. Time machine was nice touch. And getting Alien vehicle was awesome (instead of driving there, it teleports you to that location). I stopped buying expansions since from University was announced.
Always Save as and use save cleaner and the problem is solved
you should have mentioned traits and how the traits in 3 actually change how your sims behave and interact with the world, like having a sim who is a snob and have them start off as low income is hilarious because theyll literally cry over all their cheap stuff and get happy once you buy them more expensive ones. theres one trait for sims who lack social cues and it can mess up your relationships with other sims at random as they might bumble with their words and get sims mad at them instead. i had a date go horrible because of this. (also your parties, social gatherings, dates etc are rated by a fun meter and can either be the best thing or absolute dull and it also affects your sim for a while) no matter how buggy and frustrating sims 3 gets ill keep coming back to it, as even if i have 1500 hours in that game ive yet to finish half of the stuff or seen everything there is too see. theres just too much.
he has an older video where he talks about traits in sims 3 vs sims 4 and how they're actually meaningful in sims 3 haha, I'm guessing that's why he didn't mention it here
Also the traits in TS3 actually feel different. In TS4 it feels like they overlap a lot
have you ever tried a sims in with never nude and insane?, they can go shower in a suit, because never nude showred in swimclothes and insane just wears random outfits
I’ve been playing TS3 for close to 10 years and have been slowly acquiring expansions. After all this time, I still feel like I’m scratching the surface with content and gameplay.
I really don't get why the difficulty of TS4 is so low... though I know a lot of kids play it, I used to enjoy The Sims as a kid myself and enjoyed the challenge. I recently had the realisation that though it is rated T for teen, it feels like they've lowered the difficulty to make it more suitable for a younger audience than that....
I know, right! In TS2, pregnant Sims could actually die. There was a certain level of difficulty to the game. There was also a lot of epicness going on.
There should really be a choice for difficulty level in TS4. If they wanted it for younger kids, then maybe it's easier or has more tutorial stuff for them. This way loyal Simmers who have played more etc can still get something out of playing the game. It could even be more kid friendly for easy option or more "adult" for more difficult option.
Yesss! A difficulty level would be so cool, like maybe less income from jobs, (because of taxes? idk)
EA is gonna be like: "Oh you want difficulty? There you go." and everyone is gonna be like "wooow" to suddenly realize that button only makes their needs decay faster, nothing else and that's your difficulty LOL.
@@whokwnos7648 lol I could definitely see that.🤦♀️
With the nraas Overwatch mod TS3 runs SO smooth for me and I’m on a bargain basement ASUS. I have every expansion except Showtime and even Isla Paradiso runs like a dream.
Thanks for this Carl. I came back to this video of yours in 2021, after getting SO bored with TS4 - even with Country Living - and going back to The Sims 3. Admittedly, I only have the Supernatural expansion along with my original disc version, but I'm astounded at the high level of detail in the sim expressions, actions and reactions in comparison to the bland Sims 4! Also delighted with the many extra traits allowed that actually impact the sim (with no effing random 'Emotions' to get in the way), and the number of choices to do things with more complexity. Yes, the clothing items and the building aren't great, but the ability to re-colour/texturize everything is so good! I hugely prefer game-play over building anyway and TS3 is so much better at it. My TS3 game runs very smoothly on high settings as I have it on a second SSD (for games only), have 16GB RAM and a good GFX card in my PC. I'm going to keep an eye on the other packs to see which ones interest me and when the price is right (CD Keys I'm looking at you), I'll buy them!
I like how the sims actually acknowledge each other when they walk In the room especially when generations was added and the kid would play dress up and the adult would acknowledge the kid like this game felt like a a true sim compared to sims no personality 4
yes or when the kid was playing with their imaginary friend how an adult would walk by and notice them talking to themselves and being like ????? is he insane?
Yes! and sims that dislike children will grumble when they walk past them also grumpy sims and loners do the same if there are other sims around. Its the details that really make something come to life. Sims 4 could never.
@@margotalmanzar5210 My favorite is when a Neurotic sim has a meltdown, and everyone would turn to them in shock xD
yes!!! once my teenager sim cooked a meal (for the first time) and his mother went up to him, congratulated and thanked him for the meal automatically !!! shocked..
Auto roofs. I like a lot of the building in sims 4 but I really miss the auto roofs.
Yes! Makes it so easy :D
Unpopular opinion but after getting used to roofing in sims 4 and going back to sims 3, I hate auto roof. It's faster but unless I have a really basic box house the roof looks like crap.
@@maroonggirl looking like crap was part of the fun tbh nothing like choosing one of the dome roofs for auto and checking out whatever abomination the game comes up with for you LMAO
Yesterday I decided to go back to the sims 3 and wow it’s amazing. The game has so much personality and I LOVE the open world.
This makes me want to go and try to figure out how to play S3. I've had it for years and rarely play it because I never figured out how to start. Now I'm excited to make a go at it again
Making The sims 3: - Oh computers are know much more powerful, so we are gonna make just 1 loading and a fully active open world Making The sims 4: - Meeeeeeh
Very accurate :3
maybe 2 or 3 loading screens if you go on vacation
Let's make it always online, but because know that the servers trash, let's make sure it can load quickly. Oh wait...Simcity (2013) is currently burning in a dumpster......ABORT ABORT tear it all out, we need a new gimmick...uhhhhhh....EMOTIONS, that were definitely always going to be the main feature of Sims 4 AND NOT something we decided in late 2013 would be the main focus of the game after we ripped out everything the reboot was supposed to be. Oh and it was always going to be called Sims 4...definitely...not The Sims (2014).
The eating! In sims 4 the sims always find someone else to talk to while they eat, so the eating becomes even slower. Then they go eat by the pool when dining chairs exist.
Sims 3 feels more like a slice of life and you get to really see whats happening on your sims and his/her neighbors. All that an open-world game will have is actually on that game
the sims 3 is on sale rn and i got the game + all the dlc (using the sims 3 collection bundle on steam) for around 82 dollars. the fact that you have to spend 700 dollars to get all packs for the sims 4 even when it's on sale is crazy.