Gabriel Said Reynolds: Biblical Turns of Phrase in the Qur'an | How the Qur'an Knows the Bible
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In this video I give a solo presentation on "Biblical turns of phrase" in the Qur'an. Questions around the Qur'anic understanding, quoting, or recapitulation of Biblical material are hotly debated in academic scholarship. This video seeks to explain one way of understanding how the Qur'an knows the Biblical stories and ways of speaking.
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If you'd like to delve further into this topic and see more of my academic work on the subject see here: yalebooks.yale.edu/book/97803...
I really like your individual lectures... you are a great narrator God Speed, May he put you among the anointed ones
Such an amazing effort, God bless you ❤🎉
Nice. Like the new format
Tashakkor, thank you.
Thanks for this great lecture. I feel like the Quran is a sort of commentary on the Bible, but in an Arabic context aimed at delivering to an audience already familiar with the biblical stories.
Quran is extension of bible story. Bible is extension of Tourah. They build of off Abrahamic religious. Muslims believe that God revealed holy books or scriptures to a number of God's messengers. These include the Quran (given to Muhammad), the Torah (given to Moses), the Gospel (given to Jesus), the Psalms (given to David), and the Scrolls (given to Abraham).
No; the Quran twists the stuff in the Tanakh! Muhammed, himself, wasn't sure if he was hearing from God or Satan. Allah IS Satan!!!
But it lies to its audience by saying Allah gave books to this one and that one. And uneducated muslims believe that.
Muhammad also sent his messengers to Ethiopia to study he bible there.
Biblical Turns of Phrase in the Qur'an most fascinating. Thank you Gabriel Reynolds.
👏🙂 Very interesting Great video
"Behold, I tell you a mystery" is a great piece from Handel's Messiah.
[of course I was left yesterday with the question 'what are these words' - as they were picked into the first book laboured into its language; what comes to mind: why 'people of the book', unless it had been so very outstanding their use of one in having to do with God]
Very nice video presented in an intellectual and respectable manner. My take on this is that the Qur'an represents itself as the culmination of previous revelations from God with a consistent message, do good, reward for the righteous, punishment for the wrong-doers in this life and the next. It talks about people of former times and one aspect of this is to use phrases that those people would recognise as being understood and used by them, hence this video. What you rightly said is that the Qur'an puts its own 'take' on this which rules out plagiarism, copying, even if we accept that there were Christians in Arabia which the Qur'an speaks about in the following where they were listening to the Qur'an, not the other way around: 72:1 Say (O Prophet): It has been revealed to me that a tribe of nomads listened, and then they said, “We have heard a marvelous recital. [46:29] 72:2 It shows the way to Enlightenment, so we have come to believe in it. And we shall never again ascribe a partner to our Lord. 72:3 And Exalted is the Majesty of our Lord. He has taken neither a wife, nor a son. 72:4 The foolish among us uttered such outrageous lies about God. There is a great 'copy' of the following and please note how the Qur'an turns the phrase into a sarcastic comment on the Egyptian prayer for their gods, pharaohs: 44:28 Thus it was! And We made another people heirs. [26:59-63] 44:29 Neither the heaven nor the earth wept over them, nor were they reprieved again. 44:30 We delivered the Children of Israel from the humiliating suffering (of bondage). 44:31 From Pharaoh, for he glorified himself to the extent of wasting his own ‘self.’ "Countries and regions weep for thee, the zones weep for thee as if thou wert Sesheta, heaven and earth weep for thee, inasmuch as thou art greater than the gods, may there be no cessation of the glorifying of thy Ka " (which can be found here: attalus.org/egypt/isis_nephthys.html ;
(Ghulf) means wrapped, covered from all sides, mainly for protection. In Arabic, envelope is (mughallaf) In example 4 you are right, it is the same, This is a good topic anyway, the Quran confirms the earlier scriptures.
About circumcision of the heart. How did you understand the meaning of "Ghulf" to mean uncircumcized? In the hadith there is a different word for circumcized (khitan) and all the translations of this word just say it means "covered" or "unreceptive" or "hard."
Ghalf in modern Arabic means covered. So I don’t get how he derives “uncircumcised ❤️ ” from it
Another great video! 👏 Christianity seems quite ubiquitous in the Prophet Mohammed's milieu. Will be interested to see more lecture videos like this.
I find all of your examples quite convincing, but I may be biased. Since people in the west are steeped in biblical language - even if they are atheists and reject Christianity - it would be enlightening to ask people from a completely different religious and cultural background, whether they regard these similarities as a pure coincidence or not.
There isn't really an issue with there being similarities in the figures of speech. Naturally these idioms/phrases would be common place in middle eastern languages, including Arabic, and the Quran being of that language, it would only be natural to use some of them when appropriate. That being said, what's more interesting is when they are used to mean a different thing. That definitely shows a unique creativity in the use of linguistic tools to convey meaning.
Of course it’s not a Coincidence. The author of the Quran knew very well the religious beliefs of Christian’s and Jews that’s why the Quran is constantly arguing and criticising Jews and Christian’s for what they believe and say and do
@@willsimp1273 i dont think Muhamad understood the Christian faith because he musrepresented the Trinity and the meaning of Son of God thinking we believe God took a consort
@@samarmakhoul8417 the nonsensical trinity is not understood by anyone, including chrstians who have been debating the trinity for centuries until the council of Nicaea. But since then Christian’s are still trying to make sense of the trinity by referring to examples like an egg 🥚 or triangle 📐 or family unit 🧑🧑🧒 of father mother and child. Needlessly nothing works. So eventually chrstians say that the trinity is a “Mystery.” Meaning no one can understand it.
@@samarmakhoul8417 look up Christian sects that worshiped marry as a female God. Bart Erhman who is bible scholar has also spoken of these Christian sects that predate the evangelical Protestant Christians in the west
According to Dr Hani (Marvellous Quran)..all these parables can be concluded in the paradigm of ‘Abrahamic locution’
There is another reference to the "blink of an eye" in the Surah 27, where the jinn promises to bring back the Queen of Sheba's throne in the blink of an eye. Not a biblical allusion.
The Queen of Sheba is a biblical allusion, from the Hebrew Bible.
@@Achill101 I would suggest it is more than an allusion. It is a re-telling of the a Biblical story. However, the Quran turns the story into a fantasy.
Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end(: Study to know what is ending, and beginning pray for wisdom) come." Matthew 24:12 "And because iniquity(:ἀνομία:anomia: Lawlessness, the desire to seek have no rules of God) shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Pray for wisdom and love the lord thy God with all your remembering and imagining, for will thy getting get understanding. Love does many things, a few among those is it always believes and hopes with an enduring kindness. Won't you be a good tree bearing good fruit?
7: 155 Musa chose seventy men from his people for Our appointed time and when the earthquake seized them he said, ‘My Lord, if You had willed, You could have destroyed them previously and me as well. Would you destroy us for what the fools among us did? It was only a trial from You by which You misguided those You willed and guided those You willed. You are our Protector so forgive us and have mercy on us. You are the Best of Forgivers. 69: 32 Then bind him in a chain which is seventy cubits long.
What do you think about all the verses on women and marriage?it looks like there is no equality between women and men?
Gabriel I noticed that in Genesis 21:16 right before the angel appears to Hagar it says she “sat two bowshots away” (kintahavei keshet) and in the opening of surah an najm describing when Gabriel appeared to Muhammad it says he appeared from two bowshots away (qawsayni). That’s the only time that expression is used in the Quran. Coincidence?
"qab qawsayn" does not mean bow shots, but rather bow lengths
2 bow shots away would be 100-150 meters away. The Quran says 2 bow lengths away which would be 2 meter away
Either it is borrowed from gospel,or Gabriel does that all the times.
@@Zazamarkle it’s not even the same! Saying “2 bow shots away” is not the same as “2 bow lengths”
@@Zazamarklemohamad borrowed from Talmud and non canonical gospels
Thank you for this. Number 9 is very interesting. According to Islamic tradition, some of the Jews of Medina used to say "samu alaykum" (death be upon you) instead of "salamu alaykum" (peace be upon you) when greeting the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. This fits in perfectly for them to play on other phrases/words, showing opposition, such as the example mentioned from the OT.
Context define the word since Arabic roots have many meaning
Yay just Gabriel, no guests!
"The Quran emphasizes the community of faith between possessors of monotheistic scriptures" May all people of the book come to a common word this new year.
La anul şi la mulți ani!
Problem with oral access to OT and Gospels as possible source for Quran is that it assumes that ordinary Christian and Jews to be well versed in these books. These books were accessible only to Rabbis and Priests, possibly, but not to the ordinary people. They did no necessarily know their religion.
Very good point!
@@omarmirza9957 These guys are going crazy to find a source for Quran.
That's not exactly true. Ordinary Christian would hear phrases from the bible from their preachers every Sunday, as that was very common in the region to cite scripture when giving a sermon. There are many studies on the homilies and sermons of Early Christianity
@@azizmuqaddam8517 They hear and they forget. Keep in mind that priests were like a shaman, protecting the people from the bad spirits, evil gods, cure their sicknesses, and act as an arbitrator. You can see all of these in Jesus. I doubt that even priests had the material to quote from OT/NT. That was very expensive material. Actually widespread analysis of biblical texts did not happen until 1800's. I think even the access to textual material was restricted. Icons, which was cheaper, was all the common folks was allowed to possess. There was not much religious discourse among the common folks, they were ordered to believe, usually under the penalty of death. Who would take a chance to talk under these circumstances? Scarcity of written material also led the authorities feel free to change the text as they liked. Muslims started using paper early, Quran was memorized by a lot of people, and believers were trained against tampering. Two different societies.
@@almazchati4178 - a reason for this is the first Caliphs trying to destroy all Quran versions that didn't correspond to their Quran. That makes studying the history of the Quran more difficult.
Which means that the wordings are specifically used by Abram’s descendants(the Israeli people and the Arabs)
I wish in schools they taught us reliigon like this instead of imposing their own religious agenda on children (speaking as a guy from Türkiye, where religion class is mandatory, in primary and secondary education, and most teachers strictly follow the mainstream sunni ideology, sadly)
Maalesef knk sünniler bütün dini yapıyı ele geçirmiş ve insanları Kurandan uzaklaştırıp kendi öğretilerine mahkum ediyorlar.
This isn't teaching religion though. This is simply looking at a religious topic through an anthropological lens, rather than informing you about the tenets of the faith, what to believe and what not to believe.
@@abdokorayem9478 yeah exactly that's for what I'm rooting.
@@abdokorayem9478 what you say is teaching "Islam" and if they are to teach it, fine, just name the fucking course "Islam" and do not make it a mandatory course
Is there anything in the Qur'an that proves its origin is miraculous/supernatural? I personally find the whole idea of God as a being among beings who wants us to do his bidding based on faith but not evidence quite suffocating. I lean more towards pantheism, that God is not a being among beings but is being itself and we all share in that being and being is intelligent. We are all parts of God and God is the sum of all parts. In the absence of evidence that God commands us anything we are free. Freedom is the greatest gift. As soon as God commands you you are no longer free, you are a slave.
how old are you? There is no such thing as absolute freedom. Man is limited by earthly written law, moral law. A man has obligations to his partner, parents, neighbors, society in general, etc. The fact that we exist and do something in this world is determined by another being, which is God.
The author of the Reading aka Quran is the author of the Torah & Gospel
God forbids. The true author is called Father, something that Mohamad denied
@@samarmakhoul8417 if that what u want to believe
@golamyahia6085 you better read your book 📖 and then say that the previous books are corrupted !
الحمد لله الذي لا إله إلا هو الحي القيوم Messenger.. Or.. what 👉Who is Jesuse Matthew 12:18 “Here is my servant whom I have chosen, the one I love, in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will proclaim justice to the nations.
Dear Dr Reynolds, very interesting observations, especially the link between Paul’s letters and the Qoran. I’m not sure whether you are familiar with the works of the late Dr Salibi. Dr Salibi noted that in one of his letters Paul mentions that he went to Arabia following his vision rather than go to Jerusalem to meet Simon/Peter or James. He concludes that he must have acquired some Semitic language texts that could have later influenced the NT. The Qoran of course might a reproduction of those earlier original texts. A Tunisian scholar Dr Khaled Balkin has been examining the origins of the Qoran and somewhat he is concluding that it is a product of those earlier texts… so in a way the Qoran did not copy Paul, but Paul could have copied the Qoran! What do you think?
In 1910 Ivan Panin, a Russian/ American Harvard math genius and linguistic expert, proved the Bible mathematically. Watch - Math proves the Bible. Most recently a 30 year veteran cold case criminologist J. Warner Wallace proved the Bible forensically in his book, Person of Interest. His testimony would convince any jury of the veracity of the Bible. Some of the amazing things in the Bible include the prophecy of the fall of Tyre and the prophecy of Alexander the great. Bible firsts include knowing life being in the blood long before modern science, or the Bible knowing about mountains and currents in the oceans or how the earth hangs on nothing. You should know about the prophecies fulfilled by Jesus and the impossible odds of that happening. The Bible is a reliable collection of historical documents written down by eye witnesses during the lifetime of other eye witnesses. They report to us supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies and claim that the writings are divine rather than human in origin. The Bible has also been proven archaeologically, historically and linguistically. 2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. It also predates the Quran by six hundred years. Watch - The life of Mohammed (According to Islamic sources)
Thanks for this! Yes I do know Kamal Salibi and his book - interesting ideas but perhaps speculative. "Arabia" was likely modern day Jordan (Roman Arabia Petraea) I suppose.
@ Mohammed-alitrad2511 are you kid in me how is it possible that Paul did copied from Quran by the way there is verse in Quran that exactly matches the Paul’s teachings!
@@edisonmanafi5985 this is based on theories that the qoran is a collection of more ancient writings written in a semitic language (Syriac,Aramaic,Arabic). NT scholars have noted that there are also multiple references of earlier writings that were included in the text (Greek, Semitic language). The fact that Paul went to Arabia (whether to Arabia petria or Felix, we don’t know) opens a door that he had access to those Semitic texts that infiltrated the bible. Those same texts would be very much similar to the modern qoran… hence the similarity. This is only speculation of course, but worth noting, especially if you want to look at the issue from a different angle. On a different note, if you go to the old testament and follow the behaviour of the sunlight shadow in the story of king Ahaz, it could be concluded that the story took place somewhere near the Tropic of Cancer which means somewhere in Western Arabia!
Commentary to point 9: Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, "We hear and disobey" and "Hear but be not heard" and "Ra'ina," twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], "We hear and obey" and "Wait for us [to understand]," it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few. (4:46)
Or, does it suggest the Qur'an is not from the Hijaz, as Dr. Shoemaker showed convincingly?
This is a good eg : 70 times . Yes just like Jesus said to forgive 7o times . Mohammad also said to forgive your brother 70 times . In other words its like forgive many times as many as you possibly can . He picks another quotation from Quran and ignores the Saying of Mohammad ( Hdees) then immediately he compares one saying of Paul to Hadees . “ that no one has seen what awaits the those who love God . So see how he is mixing apples and oranges . To the naive it will be a negative picture painted of Quran by this “ professor of deception ‘ .I really pity this professor for his Jaundiced approach .
If Muhammad copies Al Quran from Bible then there should be more similar phrases than 10 ONLY. Clearly Al Quran is from The Only God of All Humankind; Allah swt.
Contrast this with the alternative explanation given by the Quran itself that a book was given to Jesus son of Mary as was given to all prophets of God that contained verbatim words from God spoken in the voice of God, constructed by the Creator of the Universe in the same way of all natural phenomena that contained the same truths as the Quran. That only remnants of halve truths from this book is at our disposal and that the Quran corrects and alludes back to the original. Greatly more plausible! With that in mind lets just take the first two instances. It is absolutely not uncircumcised hearts. It is hearts that are covered, in the Quran snd the original book of Jesus, meaning minds that are made up, opposite of open mind. Exactly the same as the approach of the speaker here and undoubtedly most of the readers. The verse in the Quran and the original bible is saying that if you get used to lying to your own self, covering the truth from your own conscience, just to say I believe in something on faith, while you very well know that it is not the truth, then you become dogmatic and cannot remain open minded, the state of nearly all Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike. On the first instance the version in the present day bible is incorrect and the original is what is stated in the Quran. What God is talking about here is that unlike other creatures human beings, guidance from God will come in the form of verbatim words from God, transmitted through humans like us. In addition, it is stated that each human has the ability to know, right from wrong, in many instances. This verse is addressing those humans that suggest that they know right from wrong and they do not need a scripture from God to give them more precise guidance. It is stating that for those humans that reject guidance from God because of arrogance, the gates of heaven will never open for them. Meaning, they will not flourish, until a camel or a ropes passes through a needle’s eye.
the bible is in the air but Mohamed was wrong with Mary s brother ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No he wasn’t, in the Hadith he was asked what it meant and he said “this is how people of the time referred to others based on their lineage” And Mary was a descendent of Aaron Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse, ‘O sister of Aaron,’ (19:28) but Moses was born long before Jesus by many years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said, “Verily, they used to name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had passed before them.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2135 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim Ibn Kathir said, “This is like saying to somebody from the Tamimi tribe: O brother of Tamim, or to somebody from the Mudari tribe: O brother of Mudar.”
كامل احترامى لكن يبدو انك لم تلتقط نقطتى اقصد عندما يكون فيه تطابق بين القران والكتاب المقدس يصبح محمد ينقل والكتاب المقدس متاح للجميع لما القران يعارض الكتاب المقدس يبقى محمد عليه الصلاة والسلام اخطا وكانها معلومه صعبة المنال وغير معلومه للقاصى والدانى اقصد ان هولاء كالذى يتخبطه الشيطان من المس @@ob1kendobe
@@attila0073 if you wrote your original comment in English and I responded in English why would you respond to me me in Arabic?
My apologies, but it seems that you may not have grasped my point. I mean when there is alignment between the Quran and the Bible, Muhammad conveys the message, and the Bible is accessible to everyone. However, when the Quran contradicts the Bible, it appears as if Muhammad, peace be upon him, made a mistake, treating it like an unattainable and unknown fact for most people. I mean that those who are misled are like those whom Satan confuses with his whispers@@ob1kendobe
@@attila0073 the fact that the Quran called her ukhta Harun shows the Quran is aware of her lineage The purpose of Muhammad as the messenger of God is to explain the Quran To take the Quran by itself and claim its wrong because you aren’t willing to take the messengers explaination of it side by side isn’t an issue with the Quran or the Messenger It’s an issue with the person who refuses to contextualize the Quran with the messengers teachings
Yes i was very surprised when i realized that the Quran uses phrases and ideas not just from Gospel but from Paul’s letters- Ephesians 2, for example - the theme of God’s wrath - i was shocked when I realized how much the Quran writer knows, at least on surface- because the Quran completely misses and misunderstands the teachings of Jesus. As the example of 70 times 7, forgiveness
It hardly misses the point, because that teaching was about forgiving one’s brother (ie a brother in faith) while the Quran is saying those who do not beleive will not be forgiven. Which is actually inline with Jesus’s teachings because Jesus also taught those who disbelieve will be punished
@@ob1kendobe no, Jesus did not teach God’s punishment, overall. There are relatively few phrases in the Gospel that could be interpreted as punitive, but they are very few of them and going against the overall theme of reconciliation between people, reconciliation that reflects or parallels the reconciliation between a human and God himself. Jesus teaches the withdrawal of condemnation and “judging with God’s judgment” which is forgiveness. This is a very common Islamic misconception about Jesus, that Jesus taught God’s wrath. He did not. This misconception is also found in some Christian communities that focus on sin and punishment rather than actual teachings of Jesus. However- his apostles occasionally did teach about God’s wrath. The teaching of Jesus’s apostles does not always agree with the actual teachings of Jesus. Most of today’s Christians actually act completely against the teaching of Jesus. I have yet to meet a Muslim who actually knows what Jesus taught. Muslim people are taught to believe that Jesus was like “prophet Muhammad” and the messages are the same. They believe that Jesus taught exactly what the Quran teaches. In reality - the message of the Quran does not portray what Jesus taught but it describes how the 7th century Christianity would act and what they would believe (the “Jesus coming with the sword to judge between the righteous and the wicked”)
@@MBiernat0711 John 3:36: “He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” And if you beleive in the book of revelation Jesus will return and it won’t be pretty for non believers
@@ob1kendobe also, the book of revelations does not really belong to the New Testament- it is a late addition derived from the military messiah as understood by the Jews. Indeed - the military messiah from the revelations is the model for the Quranic messiah- the “Rasul Allah” who comes with the sword and assists the believers in war. This model of the Messiah goes directly against the teachings of Jesus- so we may say, technically- the Jesus of revelations is as the “anti-Christ”. Thus - the Quran contains the “anti christ”notions - but the Quran is more complex because Rasul Allah is the prototype of Allah’s Mercy. So Rasul Allah / Muhammad is also the “arrahim” or the third emanation of the Islamic Trinity : “Allah Al Rahman Al Rahim”, where Allah is the greatest of the three, the Al Rahman is the principle of creation - and Al Rahim is Muhammad who is BOTH the spirit and human being (“nothing but a messenger”). “Muhammad” or “the Praise of Allah” is the epitaph symbolizing Jesus the Messiah But this is a another subject all together
@@MBiernat0711 to me it doesn’t matter either way as the reliability of the book of revelations and the 4 gospels are nearly the same in my eyes. However if we disregard the book of revelation and only speak on the 4 gospels Jesus says those who disbelieve will not have eternal life and will not be in the kingdom and in John that they will have the wrath of God Jesus spoke in the New Testament mostly to Jews who had a general understanding of the Old Testament and when he says they will receive God’s wrath, any Jew would understand exactly what that means Unfortunately for you, you read the New Testament like a gentile who throws the Old Testament behind his back and so of course you can take all of Jesus’s statements in the New Testament with that spin. However Jesus did say he didn’t come to bring peace and would make it so brother would be against brother etc. These verses are often neglected by Christians
It's a false translation, it's not talking about the camel going through a needle rather it's a huge rope like we use for boats going through a needle, god uses logic exemples
Holy Bible came 600 years before quran. Holy Bible is the answer to everything.
The Rig Veda came way before the Bible as did the Upanishads does that mean those books are the "answer to everything"
Torah came many centuries before the New Testament so why don’t you follow it
Interesting. Whether the Quran writer was Allah, Muhammad, Uthman, or Abd Malik, or all the above, it seems that he or they were so desperate to legitimise the religion that they want to associate the book, Muhammad, and Allah with the Bible and the God of the Bible. This seems to be another proof of its pagan Arab origin.
If God chose to use language that would be more easily understood, digestible, and palatable to its audience (the audience is Muslims and non Muslims alike)that does not negate the claim it’s the literal word of God. To demonstrate this argument I can use Reductio ad absurdum. The opposite of your argument would be that the Quran would have to use language that is not easily understood, not familiar, unpalatable, and not easily digestible to its audience, which would totally defeat the purpose of the Quran. One could argue the fact that Paul misquoted Old Testament scripture is proof he was actually a false apostle and heretic.
Because the Bible even if it was corrupted and suffered a lot of editings. It still contains fragments of the Divine words of Allah mixed up with the statements of the previous prophets and the words of those who write ✍️ the bible. God says in His last and final holy book: 1. Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence. 2. He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. 3. Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur"an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution. -Noble Qur’an 3:1-3
When bible and quran have the same source, i.e., the devine, therefore it is possible despite the fact that bible was corrupted by humans.
i swear to God(and it's not Allah), you muslims would rather dig your head into sand than admit your "holy" book plagiarises from other texts and legends.
Or maybe the Bible itself is of an Arabian origin. Paul did flee to Arabia immediately after his conversion. In the book of Galatians, Paul emphasizes that he received the gospel from Jesus directly and not from the other apostles Galatians 1:11-20: “I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ .. I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia."
* Herodian dynasty is Arab * Damscus governed by Arab Aretas * Paul lives 3 years in Arabia
Quran is God's revelation. It is like the other revelations. Therefore God is telling something expected to be found in any of the holy books.Becuse He knows all. More over, in Quran God himself informed how the other books been corrupted. As a muslim it is perfectly matching with our belief. Thank you.
The original, pure Injil and Taurat are from Allah, just like Al-Qur'an... Get it? No surprise... Really know Al-Qur'an.
So, why does it use phrases by Paul then? 🧐
@@AJansenNL Paul is a great thief himself homer poems
@@AJansenNL Paul was a learned Jew who knew the Torah, Jewish sayings, costums etc. The Jewish community in Arabia probably knew them too. The similar phrases are: uncircumsised hearts from the Old Testament, twinkling of an eye as an expression of speed, not consuming/devouring each others wealth and the rewards of paradise. These are eternal truths.
Scholars dont accept miracle claims when they're doing scholarship. To assert that these books came from God is to make a miracle claim. There are multiple methodological reasons for this. Miracles are by nature the least likely events to take place. If they allow that the Quran was revealed it opens the door to asking if other scriptures like the Book of Mormon and the Vedas were and there is no good way to assert that some miracles happened and some didn't. The whole project becomes too arbitrary. Western historical scholarship views all of these texts as human made. They are not attacking Islam, they are just understanding it from a different, historical, point of view
Plus, you mean the "original, pure" Injil and Taurat that the Quran affirms as existing perfectly "Siddiq" in front of Muhammad in the 7th century?
you are still questioning whether Quran has a divine origin or a human-made book? after all these deep studies? seriously ?!!! , u know exactly what is the fate of those who denies Quran , good luck .
Read Surah 9:29 which is the most evil verse against Christian and Jews!
What's wrong with it. Does it say kill? If you live in Muslim lands we wouldn't trust Jews/Christians to be faithful to Muslim rulers, heck Christians turn their backs on themselves look at Ukraine. So if Jews/Christians don't convert they'll pay jizya but be except from military service and offered 100% protection (read about what is dhimmi). This already happened when Jews were being persecuted by Christians in Andalusia but protected by Muslims. And IF you think you understood correctly how come Christians exist in Muslim majority countries.
The most evil verse is Luke 19:27. I gave you a Muslim answer now give me a christian answer to this
@@nbk2134 I suggest to learn from EX Muslims because Muslims are allowed to LIE to Convert a naive fool and to Keep fools into Islam ☪ Also learn from CP Christian Prince, Rob Christian, Shamonian, CIRA, Dr Smith, David Wood, Ahmed Ex Muslim who was a Salafi Scholar… with the help of the Internet there’s NO excuse for you to stay in a state of ignorance! Leave that dangerous backward evil 👿 ☪ Cult behind!
That verse is from a parable of the LORD. It talks about three servants who used their authority from the LORD in different ways. That verse was for the wicked servant who did nothing for the LORD. And if you keep raising Muhammad over the Messiah Yeshua same thing will happen to you too. In Yeshua's name be blessed! @@nbk2134
@@nbk2134 The jizya "...is a sort of punishment inflicted upon infidels for their obstinacy in infidelity, (as was before stated;) whence it is that it cannot be accepted of the infidel if he send it by the hands of a messenger, but must be exacted in a mortifying and humiliating manner, by the collector sitting and receiving it from him in a standing posture : (according to one tradition, the collector is to seize him by the throat, and shake him, saying, “Pay your tax, Zimmee!) - It is therefore evident that capitation-tax is a punishment; and where two punishments come together, they are compounded, in the same manner as in Hidd, or stated punishment. Secondly, capitation-tax is a substitute for destruction in respect to the infidels, and a substitute for personal aid in respect to the Muslims, (as was before observed;) - but it is a substitute for destruction with regard to the future, not with regard to the past, because infidels are liable to be put to death only in future, in consequence of future war, and not in the past. In the same manner, it is also a substitute and in the past…" AL-HEDAYA Vol. II