How to Hook a Bowling Ball
2019 ж. 2 Ақп.
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So you want to hook a bowling ball? Well, you've come to the right place. Here I'll show you what it looks like to rotate a ball like the pros. it doesn't matter if you use your thumb, you're 2 handed, or don't use your thumb at all, you'll find it here.
Good video.Been bowling on crutches for over 29yrs.I cant take any steps.Thank you
Best vid I've seen so far on how to achieve the hook.
Hi Clayton - Thanks for the video man. Very informative and great drills. I’m just getting back in to bowling and ordered my first ball today. One of the things I struggle with is my backswing and getting my hand back under the ball to hook it. I think your foul line drill will help me develop the correct hand/wrist position I need. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Kerry! No step and one step drills are awesome for getting your backswing in line, and feeling your hand that the finish. I do these drills Everytime I practice since it's something I struggle with. Keep it up! Let me know if you ever have any questions!
Good tips. the back up music woke my neighbors baby though....
Great stuff Chayton!
Awesome video Chayton! Quick question when you release the ball does your thumb have to come out of the ball first? Then use your middle and ring finger to slightly then the ball?
awesome slo-mo , frame by frame video/ demo👍
Been bowling a couple years and can’t throw a hook to save my life. Gonna try to use this video to help me. Thanks.
great vid mate, i've had a great 5 weeks (in a league that has a rolling 5 week average) so my average that im used too (180) is now 210
That's awesome man! Keep it up 💪💪
Thanks man! I bowled a 195, thanks for the tips!
Good tips.
Hi mate You're the best guide to teach mate cool!
Thank you!
Great vid n pointers! There are a lot of bowling tutorials out there but don’t have the angles n slowmo that u have! Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Good job brother, I've had a few Subs ask me for this type of content and I'll direct them over to your Channel as well. Keep it up. I just subbed to you
Thanks my man! I appreciate it!
@@ChampionshipBowling - for sure brother. You really rip on that thing. It looks good
Hey Chayton, varsity bowler here. I have a stroker style around 275 rpms. I would like to get it to 340 or 350. I have a good wrist, what exercises should I do to help snap the bowling ball more and get a better pin drive and carry? Response would be great, thanks!
As a 205 bowler, I wasn't going to watch this video, but I'm glad I did, the 3 step in front of the ball return was the gold star tip for me, also I get some people asking me how I get my ball to hook, I will now tell them to watch this 8 min. video, Great Demo.
Normally i dislike when people put their average in the comment to make it seem like they are too good for any advice. But ill just say this instead, Keep in mind you must be doing something wrong if your average is that low on a house spot considering you have at least 5 boards of room to miss.
The bowling ball is the predator, and the pins are the prey.
thanks! that helped alot!
Best hook tutorial
Nice video, shows one does not necessarily need a lot of hand turn for an effective release
Very nice sir. I also have gotten back into bowling. Myself my ring finger can’t be used in finger tip.my finger was broken in high school & has been pinned & fused at 1st knuckle,,, so i have to use my pinky finger. I still struggle with revs & hook. Using a Roto Grip Winner at the moment
I'm glad your enjoying the sport! My only experience with this was when I was a kid and I know some other people don't his, drill a 3rd finger hole for their pinky. What I would try and do is get your wrist in a good spot shown here in the video maybe trying to get further to the side of the ball. Another thing that may help you is getting a wrist brace that will set your wrist in a good position and make it more stable. Hope this helps! Let me know if you need anything!
Thanks!
Thank you. Besides your slow replay, KZhead has a setting to play at 1/4 speed so it's easy to see what you're doing. I find that if I throw my ball too hard/fast, it hooks too late. I've got my speed down (most of the time) and throw along the right side of the lane and my ball hooks to the left, sometimes hitting to the right of the 1 pin or the left. So basically, I'm hooking from right to left. My big thing is consistency. Sometimes I throw the ball off of my wrist instead of off my fingertips. My fault. I have to slow down and visualize before I throw. I'd like to learn how to stand more to the left and throw the ball towards the right and see it come back, like what you did here.
Thank you! Speed is definitely a major part to ball reaction. I use speed all the time to slow down move left and hook the lane, or get fast and play straighter. When getting left you have to use more axis rotation on most house shots to get the ball to cover more boards laterally. Work on getting around the ball a little more.
@@ChampionshipBowling Thanks for the tips. Also, I made a correction to what I wrote above. I foolishly said that I'm hooking from left to right but meant right to left (as it says now). Someday I'll learn the difference!
@@brigham2250 you'll get it! Let me know if you need any help and follow me on Instagram if you'd like!
I bowl from right to left into the pocket, and I use to think going fast was the only way I would be able to get more pins. I recently had my brother help me out, and with him having more hand than I do, he’s been helping me with my speed. I always thought I just couldn’t hook the ball, but if you slow down, you can allow your ball to hook like it’s suppose to and it’s really helped. I went from 13 mph to 11, but I kept hitting the pocket. I’ve then got use to my ball and am back up to 14. But slowing down really helps.
New sub My issues are finding that flat spot and getting my hand under the equator or the lower portion of the ball. While try to have a free arm swing
The way I hook is when I’m about to release I twist my hand
That's way wrong
Me too lol.
Same so I'm trying to learn the "right way"
That's more like trying to help the ball when it doesn't need it. Keep it either under or somewhat around the lower back of the ball without any last minute wrist twists as mentioned in this video. A pro shop operator told me to curl your fingers only to a fist upon release.
If you get strikes with that. Keep at it. Who made rules talking about wrong way or right way right? Oh yea entitled ppl… you do what makes you happy and works for you
Do you start swing with a loaded wrist or do you load it on down swing
Thanks this video helped me out so much thanks
Awesome!
Nice video! Any tips on conserving power while rolling the ball more off the side (increase axis tilt). I get a very generous amount of power but my roll is more up the back.
Great question! I've been doing no step and 1 step drills a lot to take my feet and power out of play. This is where either can really feel where my hand is at release. Try this and try getting your hand around the side of the ball. Try getting way left and see the ball make a big left turn, that's when you'll know you're generating a lot of axis rotation. If you'd like, follow me on Instagram and shoot me a video and I'd love to take a look. Thanks!
do you flick your middle and ring finger at the very end of release?
got any videos about the hand motion, when to turn the wrist to start the rotation, etc?
Check out my 10 in the pit series!
Okay I have a question for you can I hook a ball without fingertips?
Hi from Méico city, thanks for your video, I will to change in one of my balls, the drill that you sugest, Kind regars!!!
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
can you explain the off-set finger holes? Or am I not seeing it correctly?
Good video. I just started bowling last fall and I can hook the ball and sometimes it hooks too much. I'm still experimenting with where to stand so that my ball doesn't end up on the left side of the head pin. Your ball appears to have the thumb hole drilled differently than mine. Your thumb hole looks like its way to the right of the middle finger hole or I'm not seeing it properly?
Awesome I'm glad you're getting into it! Getting in the right spot in the lane is critical in finding the pocket and having your ball go through the pins correctly. It's mostly an optical illusion because my ring finger hole is so low, it off towards my middle finger a bit, but still very close to center.
Thank you for giving us tips how to hook or how to curve the bowling ball properly. But would you teach us how to hook the bowling ball for right hand bowlers in modern way. Instead you are in the life side position of the frame board. You're in the right side of the ride side of the dacker. 😅
Chayton, working well with 1 and 3 step, but losing the feel with full speed. Any advise? Thank you.
Sometimes what I will do is take my full approach, but throw the ball as slow as possible. Still posting and throwing it on line with a loose swing, just having the ball speed very slow. You can try that and see where your hand and arm fall in every step.
What weight is your ball? I’m really struggling switching from two fingers and now using my thumb. My wrist is always on top of the ball. I have no spin anymore. My motion and release are horrible haha. Been trying to throw with a thumb for only two weeks. I thought I had it down but I realized I was using my thumb but throwing the ball like I was with two fingers still. Having my arm kind of curled up and my wrist. My balls seems too heavy to keep it straight like this. I’m using a 15 pound. In good shape but damn my wrist feels weak haha. Not sure if my ball holes are positioned the best for me. Your thumb hole looks offset?
I use a 15 pound ball, but it takes time for sure. I would try the no step drill, and even getting in one knee and having the ball on the ground with your wrist in the right position.
@@ChampionshipBowling yeah I am going to try that. I think I got the arm motion down. Its just the wrist action and getting the spin on it. Seriously was thinking about going back to two fingers as I was getting pretty good with that. Almost got over 200 but had problems picking up my spares.
@@MasterEggroll you'll get the hang of it. Be sure also the the elbow bend is critical in getting you wrist in a good position.
Explain that little snap with your wrist at the release for some reason people dont ever explain that part I get the reat.
I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but my ball isn’t rotating at all. Just going straight to the right gutter. I try putting rotation on it but it just shoots straight to the left futter
Step #1 as he said, get a custom ball! I could not believe the difference till I actually got one. Custom ball hooks at least 5 times more than a house ball. I personally only use two fingers, I could never get a house ball to hook with using 3 fingers but with custom ball I actually can hook the ball a bit with all 3 fingers but I still prefer using two fingers only.
I don't have my own ball and I only use house balls. I ha e a really hard time to keep my hand in that "behind tge ball" position. And I don't know why. My wrists are not so strong But they are not THAT weak I think. How do I easily get this to work? is the housballs harder to do it with? or
A house ball would be much harder to do it with. I would suggest getting a ball custom fit. A lot of proshops have used balls for cheap you can get!
Thank you Chayton, I will give this a try. I foresee proper timing may be a challenge.
I'm not sure if you gold at all, but this is very similar to hitting 50 years shots with a 9 iron. Slowing everything down will take out the factor if adding power and let you feel everything and be able to make tweaks
rolling out at its finest
Is the finger holes offset? It looks like the middle is higher than the ring finger?
Yes this is a unique grip where the ring finger is drilled conventional and the middle finger drilled finger tip. This was because of an injury.
Hi I sprained my wrist while hooking the ball, bowling again in 1 month... Can I get some advise to ensure that wont happen gain?
Make sure you get a good amount of elbow bend and that will alleviate a lot of the stress from your wrist. When you do this, your wrist doesn't have to bend as much.
@@ChampionshipBowling Alright will try that method but I think my injury has to do with turning my wrist because when i start to turn, i feel that sharp pain on the right side of my wrist as I curve the ball.
@@oreopuppies6411 let me know, It may just come down to resting enough to where the pain goes away.
Why do you drill your ball that way? Do you recommend it? Does it help rpm?
I didn't purely out of comfort. I don't do it anymore. It slightly changes rotation and decreases rpm.
Pretty good, but I didn’t hear you mention that on release the thumb comes out first and then the fingers. You can also practice a release drill kneeling on the floor and keeping the ball on the floor at home, preferably on carpet, although you don’t get quite the feel of the weight on the fingertips. Lastly, and obviously you know this since you work in a pro shop, but people are not going to be able to hook a house ball very much at all because they’re plastic. (Bronze coach).
You are correct, those are great drills for getting feel, I'll leave people start with the ball in the approach on knew then stand up and swing it like I did. And yes a house ball won't react nearly as much, however it can be done and still improves entry angle. But that's also a great point, for any of this to work the fingers must come out first. Naturally they should but if not, definitely something one would need to work on.
Chayton Petersen yeah, I assumed your video was aimed primarily at league bowlers. For date night, if you wanted to try to impress somebody hooking a house ball, I would suggest just putting just your fingers in and leaving your thumb out, cupping your wrist so the ball rests on your forearm, and then flicking the ball out on to the lanes, rotating your fingers from 6 o’clock to 4 o’clock quickly…if the lanes are dry you may get a decent hook.
@@DGV_Tips I completely agree.
Hi, im a kid 12 years old, and im a beginner at bowling. I still just put my fingers in the holes and roll it down the lane straight. Im trying to get into hooking the ball like the pros do. I will try the technique you used in this vid. But i have one question, how many steps should i take before i bowl? When i bowl i just take how ever many steps it takes to get up there. But obviously thats the wrong way, so thanks! Have a good day
That's a great question. I take 5 steps, and that's how man most peop do. There are some people who do 4 steps, and some who take more than 5. What's key though, is the ball gets pushed away and the 2nd step for me, a 5 step approach, or first step on a 4 step approach. Stay tuned for my 10 in the Pit series and I will go more in depth I'm this.
What is the weight for bowling ball which suitable for the hook. Tq
Awesome question. The simple answer is it doesn't really matter, with these techniques using the weight that you can best control and use without hurting yourself is great. The long answer is it depends. Speaking strictly of Storm, they put the same core in all balls under 13 pounds so the only thing changing from ball to ball at that weight is coverstock. The will change how each ball hooks. Also looking at RG and Differential, typically a 15 pound ball has slight better numbers that make it ideal. A lot of PBA bowlers use this weight because of that. There's definitely exceptions to this, norm Duke throws 16 and look at him. So Ultimately, I suggest you use these techniques and the heaviest ball you can safely use.
That is a fantastic question sir!
bout to serve all my friends now lol
Hi man. Is it possible to curve a ball like you do with normal balls? I mean, the balls that are in a bowling center.
You can, they won't hook as much as mine do, but they will a little.
@@ChampionshipBowling So it's not very effective, i guess, because the holes to put fingers aren't placed like on your ball. I would like to improve myself, cause i actually hit the 196 points with throwing straight, but my average score is 145 i would say. So, i would like to learn and practice curved throws. How much should i spend in a bowling ball like yours?
Oh yeah, i forgot to tell you that i'm used to play with a 11 pounds ball, medium sized finger holes (i'm 19 old)
@@Xxmathis17xX if you look at my ball motion explained and how it goes over cover stock, that's why it won't hook as much. The core and coverstock will make the ball hook more. Having the correct grip that fits will increase your rev rate, but ultimately getting a ball will enable you to hook the ball more.
Wait what? My fingertip is drilled to only my first knuckle on both fingers? is this correct?
Yes it is. I just went back to the finger tip grip.
Also I see some bowlers tuck on their pinky while releasing the ball. Is this an advantage?
It can be, it moves the pressure of the ball around on your fingers alter the reaction a hair.
thanks man, helpful video
Thanks for watching!
Why are your finger holes drilled staggered like that? Or is it just the angle of the video?
Sarge easter grip. Used usually for a finger injury or comfort
I am a right handed bowler but I usually throw left I want to learn how to hook it to the right side
Hey there :) Someone knows a good entry/mid level reactive ball? I played for years with a entry level reactive ball but I don't got this ball anymore and couldn't play for around 5 years or so.. But now I want to get back :)
Phaze 2 and idol Pearl are my favorite bench mark balls.
@@ChampionshipBowling Ah okay never heard of them. I will look them up ty :) I saw recommendations for the Storm HyRoad. Do you know anything about this ball?
@@HiveProjected the Phaze 2 is a storm ball, the Idol Pearl is a roto grip ball. The hyroad is a good ball, but it's mostly good for when the lanes break down or there's a lot of friction on the front part of the lane.
@@ChampionshipBowling Okay thats good to know. Is there a specific ball you would recommend to get into the reactive game?
@@HiveProjected I love my phaze 2 and idol Pearl, either one
you using paralax right?
I’ve been trying for his and I still hit the gutter and don’t curve the ball
Hello there, thanks for the video. I will be joining my 1st league soon and i'm trying to learn the hook. The main problem that I seem to have is I can't seem to hold the ball steady right before the release point. I think I have been trying with to heavy of a ball. Also, I am a lefty using house balls. I didn't even think of the fact that most if not all are probably right handed balls. Any asvice would be awesome and appreciated. Thanks!!
You're gonna love the league! My main advice would be to get into a ball that is fitted for you. Go to your local pro shop and you can even get a used ball for really cheap! They will fit it to your hand and you'll have a way easier time getting your hand in a good position.
@@ChampionshipBowling Hello again, I got a drilled ball finally. It's a 14lb ball used but in good shape. I'm a lefty and slowly getting better. I just have a bbn problem with consistency.
@@11SEXMACHINE awesome my man! I hope your killing it, used balls are awesome. Let me know if you ever need anything!
@@ChampionshipBowling Thanks man, I appreciate it.
I can get my bowling ball to hook, I just don't see my ball rotate like I see other guys do it. I am 16 and have been throwing fingertip for about 2 years now but still can't get it to have the "right" revolutions, axis tilt, axis rotation.. Etc.
Hey man, that's awesome you made the switch to finger tip. Generating the combination of axis tilt and rotation is difficult for sure. If your open to it, follow me on Instagram and shoot me a video of you and I'd love to take it a look at it!
@@ChampionshipBowling ok, cool. Yeah no problem man. I'd really appreciate the help.
Just added you on Instagram me is @crazy_thunder98
Subd your channel
But i like skytomo and miki takejara i started to hook my ball now
Awesome! Definitely helps strike more once you get it down.
I've tried, I just can't do it. Comes off my hand weird and straight to the gutter every time. I guess just straight bowling for me.
Don't quit just yet, you can get it. If you'd like you can follow me on Instagram and shoot me a video, is be happy to take a look!
Looks like wwe superstar Kevin Owens. Bowl KO Bowl!!!
How tight are those shorts?!?!
Hahaha the stretch 😅
Do u think I should get the idol or idol pearl
Great question, I have the idol Pearl and it's great! The idol will hook earlier than the Pearl will, but you'll be happy with both. What balls do you currently have?
Chayton Petersen hustle pro and looking for something for fresher shots I’m a high school bowler. Trying to build a arsenal
@@joeyj5785 I would go with the idol in that case, that cover will help you slow the ball down on the fresh.
All I'm missing is a jersey and a pinky ring!
You know it!
Video starts @ 3:00
Hi,I'm using prosthetic leg.it hard for me to hook the bowling ball. Can you give me tips or tutorial. Please....
I'm join the Paralympic seagame at phillipine next year,I have to practice this year
@@terserahlupada7283 I'd be happy to help. Do you mind me asking if it's your plant leg, or your trail leg?
@@ChampionshipBowling my right leg is prosthetic. I don't have my right leg,the whole right leg.
@@terserahlupada7283 and are you a right handed bowler or left handed?
@@ChampionshipBowling I'm right handed
As a bowler I naturally have a hook weird to see somebody force it but very interesting
I'm curious as to what you mean by someone forcing it?
@@ChampionshipBowling hellow could you tell me the position de fingers for to proof ,thanks.¡¡
Hooking bowling balls are very hard to do if not learn
More mechanics on rotating the hand would be much better
Thanks for the input Keith! What are you looking for?
I AGREE!
If you study his action (especially at 1:28. Set the vid at 0.25 speed), the shoulder has a lot to do with it. He flares his shoulder out just as he's about to release. This automatically switches the position of the hand so that it's more side on to the ball. Then he rips the ball while it's in this position, imparting the rotation.
4 step note step
Every time I try, it spins like a top. Then again, I had to completely change my footwork.
Sounds like your hand is a bit too far on top of the ball. Take a look at my 10 in the pit series! Step by step!
I used to spin it also. In my case, it was a combination of turning my hand too early and coming around the ball too much. Once I envisioned rolling through the ball, it helped a lot.
Looks like wwe Kevin Owens
I hate when I’m in tournament and people are throwing it 20 mph and getting angry at why it’s not hooking.
Yeah unless you have the revs to get the ball to read the pattern, it won't at that speed.
Yeah, there mostly league bowlers who bowl on dry patterns. But still they should know how to slow a ball down.
@@ryanmai7888 I agree getting slow to help the ball read is super important
I have a tournament tonight but it’s baker bowling and it’s even more annoying when they throw it fast because there messing up the rest of the teams score.
@@ryanmai7888 makes sense, maybe you can refer them to this video so they can learn 😉
how to hook a ball using house balls
You can hook house balls but it won't drive well and carry pins.
recently,i took bowling as a hobby and am literally pissed of myself as i can't do a simple hook. my hand keeps pointing downwards as i released the ball. i'm about to throw the towel. i'm losing hope.
Don't give up yet! It's definitely not the easiest thing to do. Try getting on one knee during the no step drill and see if that will help at all!
Look like you're coming up the back of the ball
You wanna know how to hook a Ball go to the pro shop because they all hook, most of the skill set into today's bowlers come right out of the box.
Definitely a lot of technology out there, but does take a lot of skill to repeat shots and know which ball works on which pattern.
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I always throw a back up ball, When I try to hook it it just goes straight haha
Back up balls work too, it's all about getting your hand in the correct position at release. Jason Belmonte and Anthony Simoneson both us back up balls on tour sometimes!
@@ChampionshipBowling thanks for the swift reply and good luck with this channel. Really enjoy this type of content. I also have trouble figuring out where exactly my eyes should be looking as i finish the approach. I tend to to just be looking straight down at the lines just in front of my feet. Only been bowling a year so it's still very new to me.
@@safc88 well welcome to the sport! I'm glad you're enjoying it so far. Thats an awesome question too, personally I use the first set of dots on the lane. However i use a 3 point targeting system as well. Awesome topic for a video I'm gonna start working on!
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I have never seen finger holes like that so how is this helpfull to a beginner? Wtf is wrong with making a video with a normal bowling ball ? Pretty sure you can hook a ball with normal finger holes without having one custom drilled.
You’re trying to hard
How so?
First off no one is gonna get a ball drilled like yours. Second everyone is gonna have a different ball roll. And good Bowles can change there wrist position giving the ball a different toll. As in making the ball go longer down the lane or hook earlier. Also in order to put the most revs on the ball the most important tip would be to work the inside of the bowling ball. Watch any pro and you’ll see that at the point of release there hand goes from the inside of the ball and almost creates a motion like a yo yo as the ball is going down
Listen if you are going to make a complaint, at least have correct grammar. And he is also just making suggestions so calm the hell down. Also, you used the wrong there. Lmao
This video explained nothing.
Ok
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