Toyota Battles BMW: 1400-hp 2JZ Supra vs S58 BMW M4 vs Lexus V8 - Cammisa's Drag Race Replay
The 2023 BMW M4 Competition, with its twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-six, has got some serious competition coming for it this week, on Cammisa’s Ultimate Drag Race Rewind-and that competition is Toyota.
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The long awaited 2022 Toyota GR Supra meets us on the track, to compete with two BMW B58 engine counterparts-the BMW M240i xDrive and M340i. If you thought Toyota would roll up to the starting line as a team of one, think again-the 2023 Lexus IS 500 F Sport Performance, joins us as Toyota Motor Corporation’s V8 challenger, to squash the straight-six army. Last but not least for team Toyota, we have… a modified 1400-hp MkIV Supra? From 1993?
Does Toyota’s newest Supra, toting a BMW engine and borrowed parts from the BMW Z4, best BMW’s own factory engineering? Will the V8 Lexus triumph over a sea of inline-sixes? Or, could a JDM classic released In 1993, with a boosted 2JZ-GE engine, completely squash it’s modern competition?
All of these questions, and more, will be answered to culminate in the final verdict-will Toyota triumph over BMW, or will BMW be the victor? Join Jason Cammisa as we put these great performance cars to the test-then pause, rewind, and slowly break down what makes each of these automotive contenders unique.
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production quality is insane. Hagerty never fails to deliver
Its not hagerty its jason
@@I4k_au both combined
It's absolutely bonkers.
Not even really interested in the title but came to watch because of the production.
100 percent agree. the formatting and the way the presenter delivers the show is top notch.
Hagerty has something special on their hands. Jason is an amazing host, and the production quality is insane. If they stick with videos like these, it’s game over.
They have rhe quality to make a TV show series. I would definitely tune in every week to watch!
@@bubblelex5051 I haven’t watched tv in years. Leave it on the tube please without too many producers getting involved
Who gives a flying broom handle about TV?
why isn't this a movie? took my deepest love for cars and gave it a lesson, the end of it made me realize how fast we are in a new era of automobilism, and the motorsports and culture as we know it is going to pass on the books
Yes on the host and production no on the rest
The Supra passing in the last moment bought a tear to my eye. In a happy way.
Well that’s nice, cos the m5cs would’ve embarrassed that old machine
@@FloreFaune those old Supras are built and tuned by Joe blows, not a multi billion dollar company. It's like the idiots who discredit the power of the Vipers abilities, a lone company took some stock vipers and almost ran sub 7s on Nuremberg, imagine if dodge was behind it.
It they can fit a blower to stop the turbo log it will be insanely faster I think 🤔 🤔 🤔.
@@FloreFaune in 10 years the Toyota MK4 Supra will still have a higher price than the M5CS, in 20 years no one will remember the M5CS but the MK4 Supra will still be the car ppl dream about.
@@fcorivers cope I don’t get the genuine ignorance behind your comment, I’m sorry I offended you by making a joke about a metal machine
Ok im sorry i love modern cars and 0-60 times, but the sound of that 2JZ beating off the limiter legit gave me goosebumps and brought real tears to my eyes! Absolutely beautiful
Same here!
Yes🔥👑
💯
No 2jz sucks mopar is better nothing better than classic muscle and modern muscle dodge, jeep
Damn I nearly thought i was alone🔥😅
It’s very nice seeing Jason get to do these crazy videos, he’s absolutely thriving at Hagerty
and lets face it, we're eating it up so it's a positive feedback loop
I didn't know I needed this. What a quality video team; hat's off to all of you!
Top Gear can just go and pack their bags. Period. This is automotive journalism and editing at it's absolutely finest. The way they portray EVERY FRICKIN' CAR at Hagerty's is nothing less than brilliant. I'm sitting here with my headphones with goosebumps all over, just enjoying the show every damn time 🤩Keep up the fantastic work, guys! Huge love and greetings from Norway.
There’s no such thing as a boring Hagerty video, especially when Cammisa’s at the helm, you can count on the automotive journalism to be top notch. They’ve really taken it to a whole new level with the production quality. The way they compliment the new machines by throwing cars from yesterday into the fold. No one else is doing it quite like Hagerty.
@@MrKnoxguy101 Funny thing is I have never and still do not like jason. I find he contradicts himself a lot and has a lot of bias.
@@stevew145 skip it.
Since Hagerty by virtue of car auctions will have access to cool cars like this far into the future, (and hopefuly enough cash to fuel them up) they stand poised to take over this genre, and not just from Top Gear. Acceleration competition will be a moot point with EV's...to the point that physics (and good sense for a road legal car) will limit just how fast 60 mph can be reached from a stop. All other car journos will be busy trying to get people excited about the latest outlandish bodywork and interiors that have more LCD (or LED, OLED whatever) screens covering every square inch than they do plastics or leather. (pleather far more likely) People will get excited about that stuff for a while but then the shark will eventually be jumped and car makers are left trying to reinvent the wheel...and not just the steering wheel, thats already been done. We can't see it now because of all the cool looking new EV's that will be coming out in the next decade or so, but this is the beginning of the end of personal transportation. The car companies that survive will be left competing for the best mass transit vehicles...self driving electric busses, high speed trains etc..
Gotta clarify american topgear this has nothing on jeremy clarkson james may and richard hammond
This felt like watching a movie. Cant believe I'm watching something of this caliber on youtube. You guys and your team always raise the bar by making such masterpieces.
This was such a captivating episode to watch. I love how you guys created a story arc that went from the IS500’s old-school nature to the insane progress of the S58 in the M4. Long live Toyota, Lexus, and BMW. They’re making some seriously fun cars.
I've got a IS500 Launch Edition love this car I had a 2021 STI before & don't miss it lol 2UR-GSE > EJ257
Been doing that bud
Really surprised to see the Lexus in the mix seemed out of place imo!
@@moonman_8935 Until it snows lmao, not a knock against Lexus but I wouldn't want to take that thing out in the snow, it would be like exposing a work of art to a sledgehammer... With the Subie on the other hand its like elementary school recess, running, jumping, screaming, getting scraped up, and not caring because your a kid and your supposed to be doing this... Two very different cars, each excellent in their own right, but personally I'd take the Subie...
@@griffins5655 With a good set of snow tires there should be no problem in the snow
Welcome back to the best and most concise drag racing series on the internet!
My day Instantly gets better when I realize there's a new Cammisa video on hagerty.
CarWoW is better.
@@toncheky no
@@sakvv To each their own 🤷🏻♂️
@@toncheky In terms of drag races then yeah but In terms of production quality no free content gets close to Hagerty.
I can confidently say I’m pleased that I just bought an IS500 sight unseen today. It’s a dinosaur in comparison to every other car in its class. What can I say, I’m an old man who wants to hear a V8.
Can’t blame ya. V8’s are awesome 😎
One day it'll go up in price. It's a given! 😄
Man gratz to u man i wanna say in 40 years when im in my 60s i will do something similiar. But im in my early 20s and that would be a bad financial idea.
Do yourself a favor and put a cat-back exhaust on it. The stock exhaust is sooo restrictive.
Congratulations to you man but is500 is slower than any car in its class which is the c63. M3. RS4. Alfa Romeo Guilia. It’s not a dinosaur for any of this car. Even the entry level Audi beats an LFA in a 1/4 race 😂
Imagine if that M4 gets 3rd party tuning That M4 is a monster comparing to its factory setting
Pure monster
Jst imagine a G powered M4.. Tht Supra along with it's fankids would have been cryin' so bad💀
have you seen what those m4's are running now? ridiculous
Whoever is in charge of the effects and editing should get a raise because it’s gets better and better all the time
4:35 - Hagerty is next level with the production… they captured his reflection on the Supra for the slow-mo 🤯
i really want to know how they do those, do they do a drive by with the cars while they're barely coasting in neutral or how??
Because the car is only idling in gear, this is the easiest solution but it looks perfect
@@R_o_b_e_r_t just the way it's all stitched together is amazing
@@samthecar true, its really really good. Editors and camera guys are doing a great job
@@yoMXTT yes snd add effects like dust and gravel. I love it!
I don’t really care for drag races, but man, this is not just a drag race. This is Jason Cammisa, this is automotive video brilliance, this is a story, intelligent insights and crazy edited. Love it!
You don't love those by carwow
This video was even better than anticipated. Most drag race videos are filled with senseless rambling and a small bit of action. Not Hagerty... You guys are killing the game! Thoroughly enjoyable to watch from start to finish, your videos are not only entertaining and informative but also thought and emotion-provoking. Your videos help display what being a car guy is all about and I can't get enough of it!
As they say: "It's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast." Lots of great examples of gearing, power curves, all that stuff. Great vid.
underrated quote
It doesn't matter how fast a 30 year old car can go, when the lap time is slower than an alfa romeo 4c.
Here's why the m240i won and the supra was behind. All wheel drive. Sometimes the extra weight of the m240i doesn't matter when all wheel drive gets it off the line perfectly and the horsepower keeps it going hard. The supra was catching up to it quick it would have passed it if the distance was longer. The 400lb difference didn't make a difference in the quarter mile. If the supra had awd it would do 0-60 in 3.4 and 1/4 mile faster than m240i
You give me a video with Jason in it and I’ll instantly watch the whole thing. He’s a top tier automotive goldmine.
Just discovered this channel. I'm so addicted to the quality of production!
Nice video once again, I always look forward to your videos with so much anticipation.
You know the s58 is gonna be a future classic when you got tuners already deep into the 9s from just fueling mods and a good tire 👍
It’s that easy to make power with them?
@@team3gaming749 bro, it's not easy, that would be an insult, the s58 makes 750hp with fueling mods and downpipes.
@@omnihein9322 literally no fueling mods needed, just a downpipe and you're at 700hp on pump gas, on an ethanl blend they hit 800hp. 9.6 quarter mile with a simple downpipe.... crazyyyy
@@iKrakenOfficial I mean, I would skip the fuelling mods all together tbh, Red bull drift brothers made 1040hp on pump gas with only upgraded turbos, port injection, and some light modifications to the head geometry. Can't wait for my m3 xdrive to arrive, though I'll wait for the warranty to end before I do any mods and I won't be doing anything too crazy.
@@omnihein9322 u sure? I’ve seen some hit very very high numbers off simple things that he said.
Aside from Jason and Randy in the same video, the effects and production quality of this series is premium. The edit team are true masters at the craft! Amazing content!
Excellent Video! The layering of the slow mo finishing part was super cool!!
stellar vids from this crew. editing is killer. jason as the MC arrived. keep ‘em coming. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This is insane level of film making. Those slow mo shots were unbelievable. Kudos to the team.
I love the sound editing during the Supra/M4 drag race. The engine sounds crescendo at the perfect moment.
omfg!! I really enjoyed this episode! The sounds for sure got me super excited!!
Man, I binged maybe half of your videos on KZhead over the last week and I gotta say I love the quality you guys put into it. I wish I could do the same for my gaming content
Cammisa does it again: Mixing automotive history with the contemporary.
As a multi supra and BMW owner, this is an awesome video! Never change Jason, you are amazing. God 2JZs just sound like pure bliss
He!! yeah bro, I have multiples of each in my video game garage too 💪
Man this nearly brought a tear to my eye, what a beautiful piece of art. I'm about to watch a few more times🥺brilliant cars + brilliant production = something that should be considered a masterpiece 🏆👏👏👏
Love these shows. You guys do a wonderful job. And I love it's always on a racetrack where it belongs.
7:00 too soon junior
Probably one of the best car review and presentation I have ever seen on KZhead. Utterly brilliant well done to everyone who contributed to making this video hats off
Amazing work and hosting. Appreciated
Great video as always!! Love your stuff!! Amazing!!
Every single time I'm thinking, "I'm definitely watching this again." And I do, and it delivers without fail. Sick as always.
I can’t help but to notice you call the gearbox an “8-speed ZED F” but the engine a “2J ZEE”
If we're gonna pick on Jason's pronunciation, I'd like to include "coop".....drives me mad 😂😂
ZF is german company, making "Z" be zet or zed. ZEE comes from japanese zetto for "Z".
@@Druze_Tito wouldn't zetto translate into "zet" as well?
Americans shouldn’t say zed.
I never understood the difference in pronunciation. Zee vs Zed. Its Bee right...not Bed? Cee not Ced...just dumb to me
Excellent video. Please make more like these. You guys are doing a Great job.
Amazing quality!!!! Never been so captivated by a drag race video wow!
One of the best races I’ve seen on KZhead!! 😮💨 B58 gang !!! 💪
After watching such quality content, other channels seem boring to me. 😄
C'mon now this is great, but throttle house does an excellent job as well! Humor mixed in is pretty entertaining imo!
@@germanengineering204 Agree 100%! 👍
Absolutely Amazing!
This clip is sensational! Thanks Hagerty team!
This is another kind of KZhead Channel, the quality here is in another level, Hagerty and Jason this is pure gold, congratulations! PD: More videos please!
this is a sterling video. short, sharp, well written, and gorgeous to look at. well done chaps.
I just love these Cammisa videos. They have such unique energy, and more when he gets on it with the racecar driver! 😄
This channel has the finest editing. Never thought any KZhead channel could deliever this.
This series is INSANE!!! those is500 will be rare with time just like the ISF 😍
this is simply the best drag race ive seen on youtube, everything is just insane, well done to everyone involved in this. Hope we will have it with amg's too
Such a Great piece of videography and transition as well ♥️✌🏻🔥
Make some more Drag Race videos. Loved it 😍👍
Love the work Jason has been putting out he really needs his own tv show
Hagerty yet again with a masterpiece of a video.
Great vid man, this race isn't ideal for the supra but high power rwd manual brought the biggest smile which is where a lot of newer cars fall short, they've been made to be fast with most average drivers where as it takes a lot more to handle something like the supra
The editing alone is worth every minute of this video! I absolutely love this channel! Subscribed! :)
These videos have quickly become some of my favorite KZhead content! Keep up the great videos and amazing production quality!
The cinematography in your videos is absolutely incredible, the style you bring is very unique 🙌🏼 Keep it up guys!
THe effort and quality you guys putting into this videos are amazing
Yo this is awesome, keep up the good work 👍
Thank you for this amazing content, I love it
Mind-blowing production quality and amazing drag race 🔥🔥
Wow videos from Hagerty are just amazing !!! Congrats
Hagerty with Jason hosting have the best videos on KZhead. Hands-down can’t wait for these things to come out really look forward to them. Keep up the amazing work always entertaining and very insightful. 💯🔥💨💨💨💨
Every time they allude to an electric future in videos like these, I always get hit in the feels. It never fails lol. I'll keep my ICE til I die. Spectacular production quality, as always. Big up Jason!
this is so cheesy..
ICE vehicles will be relegated to aging enthusiasts’ toy collections while BEVs will beat them in every performance category.
@@ZephyrCorsa how? Lol
Ok boomer
Looking at these videos, they give EV's too much credit for killing off the interesting car. Just look at nearly all BMW's and porkers from the past decade, then look at the Supra.
3:07 That moment you realize that all three of these cars are technically siblings.
Yea I think that was the whole point of the comparison...
eh Supra is on the strictly two door Z4 platform. The 2 and 3 are much more similar to each other since 2 is just a chopped wheelbase 3 but still has back seats
@@papa_pt not really it's still the same CLAR platform. BMW has never been the best at building dedicated sportscars since they always just rework existing ( usually 3-series ) platforms. Hence why the BMW Z4 weigh a lot for what was supposed to be a "dedicated sportscar". BMW is at their best when building practical fast saloons. Side note : exception could be the Z8. I'm not saying it's bespoke, I just haven't checked.
@@thatcopenguy if you're going off CLAR you could call the Supra and X6 siblings too. It's actually pretty good on weight what other modern sports car (minus Porsche) around that PRICE w/ at least a 6 cyl weighs 3400lbs in the US?
@@thatcopenguy yep this is true..
Great videos, keep em coming!
Amazing production, thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed. Applause 👏 ✌️
Amazing production quality for sure!!!
Love all your videos keep up the good work 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Another great video. Keep up the good work
Man the sound of the 2JZ is just classic. No B58 or other BMW engine (modded or not) can match the sweet sound of a nice single turbo 2JZ.
100%
Pfff... S50/S54 M88 engines think otherwise. Those engines make the sweetest noise and are super high revving from the factory.
@@KillswitchRobie828 Those engines are not reliable or bulletproof like the legendary 2JZ. Outside of hardcore bmw fans nobody lusts after the S50/S54 M88 like the 2JZ.
The 2JZ is modified. And B58s have already been making over 1000HP on Stock Block!
Respect to the audio engineer on this one. Hard to capture something like a 2JZ without the audio clipping like crazy.
My new favorite automotive channel. You guys are killing it! Please keep the awesome content coming!
You guys got the best video production, i love watching your insane car video you are the best
How does hagerty succeeds everytime to bring me goosebumps every video?!
This is an ultimate content just like the b58 and s58 are ultimate tuning engines!
Check out what Cammisa does at 2:22.
I love you show. fascinating and entertaining. Awesome job!!!
My god, i want to cry right now 😭 We will surely miss these cars.. what a great celebration. Thank you guys 🙏
Whoever is producing this just needs to know they are making some of the best car content online
appreciate your editing staff Sir...🙏
Waiting for second part of this 👍👌
The production quality keeps getting better and better! But that was evident from episode 1. The secret sauce is that this doesn't feel like the typical car reviews or comparisons where the hosts just read numbers and feign scripted emotions. Jason is having mad fun, and it shows in every segment. Also, great to have Randy on the show. Always loved him on Motor Trend.
Can we all agree the Bimmer i6 is also underrated from the factory. I've seen references to it actually making 420+ HP.
Totally agree with you i think they downsize horsepower figures
really like this video presentation and content..keep up the good work
The editing was perfect.
This is the first video of this channel i watch. WHAT'S UP WITH THE QUALITY? THIS IS PHENOMENAL!
They're all like this, it's great
You know it’s gonna be a good video when Hagerty puts jason on screen
Thanks, great video!
Editing production is phenomenal!!!
Don't worry son, your DAD is still alive ❤ MK4
Kid, Supra is Modified.
What most people don't know is that the M240i has the same software throttle mapping as the M5 CS. The M340i and Supra do not, as you can tell in this video. And...of course BMW wouldn't give Toyota all it's goodies even though I love the new Supra. Great video, love that 2JZ!
That 1st minute just fly by without even notice. That is how good each of the scene was planned and made!
8:02 Randy's infamous victory cackle never gets old!
This video needs to be in the movie theaters. That is how insane the production is.
Absolute best car video production on KZhead. Jason snd Randy the dynamic duo as well.
Just subscribed. Wow amazing.
On a side note what I love the most about this channel is that it delivers on what gear heads want to hear and see with no extra silly stuff or boring content. Hagerty delivers! :)
Consider the commitment to reliability Toyota has
Everyone knows toyota wouldn't take bmw's stuff unless they validated that the b58 is reliable enough, that's why the supra has a b58. Toyota kept sending parts back to bmw because they didn't pass toyota's testing.
@@hench_wrench_repairs that was a myth
@@Big_AlMC nope this officially happened at least 3 times
@@Big_AlMC it was not.
What a conspiracy theory. The b58 was existing before the Supra and therefore the manufacturing process was already set up. BMW indeed improved the engine with the years, but the first iteration was already a beast. Part of the reason is that they cut costs by sharing parts between diesel and gasoline engines and therefore have them set up for higher forces. Nonetheless already the predecessors of the b58 have been very good and have great tuning potential. Another thing is that the the engineers already had the s58 in mind which is used nearly unchanged in gt racing cars. Toyota has nothing to do with it. They are lucky to find a manufacturer that builds stuff like that and was willing to build a car in this segment, because they also wanted to have a new z4.