Frozen Earth Rod Stops EV Charger Installation UK ❄️
The Seren EV Charger, designed for domestic use, harnesses a light source for dimly lit locations so the charger can be easily located. With the installer's convenience at heart, this charger boasts some impressive features aimed at saving you time and headaches.
The charger also offers a variety of colour options and allows customers to customise the light source to their preference.
In this video, Rick and Gordon install the charger at a customer's house. The looming question remains - will they finish the job before the impending snow arrives?
Learn more about the Seren Charger 👉 hub.efixx.co.uk/seren-charger
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Time Stamps ⏱
00:00 Our first EV Charger install of 2024
00:25 What's in the box?
01:16 How we kept the charger flat on the wall
01:38 Captive screws, and a tip to keep them captive
01:53 A new tool has turned up
02:09 This charger is great for the installer
02:47 The snow has arrived which brought along a problem
03:24 How we tackled the problem
04:01 Converting the junction box and how we tackled the data cable
04:52 Gordons' fave feature - a customisable light source
05:40 Customisable charger covers
06:03 Do you prefer tethered or untethered?
06:40 Commissioning the charger is so easy
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Normally, electricians doing data work is like kitchen fitters doing electrics, but that's some nice termination there 🙂 Beautiful job as always, chaps.
A rhesus monkey could do data terminations.
I'm CTO at a medium sized company and discovered 1 wrongly spliced Cat6 run and 1 loose walljack, after two electricians, who I paid £3000 to run a few hundred meters of cable. I redid them myself instead of calling them back. What amazes me is that they said they tested the cables as good, but line 3 was broken in the spliced cable, and the walljack had a short to ground......... Never those guys again.
In the house I just bought there's some sockets that have been done by the plasterer. L and N inverted and Earth loose!
To be honest, your taught data in the electrical installation course theory and practical
Those Female to Female RJ45 couplers will give you a dodgey connection sooner rather than latter. Replace them with Gel Crimps the type BT engineer use. I speak from experience as I had to swap out a few couplers in Scotland that were put in by the furniture makers. Salutations from Costa Del Watford.
Hes on some money aint he, with that coat 😂
Purchased it about 8 years ago when I was working in Finland 🇫🇮 🥶
@@efixx it's nice
Built-in PEN fault protection is a must for any serious EV manufacturer.
Absolutely - this product has built-in PEN fault protection 🙌 FYI
Great looking product with the different coloured faceplates and the customisable light bar set it apart - I have one installed at my house, certainly looks the part!
@eFixx, thought about surge protection on the twisted pairs for the ethernet? The transformers in the ethernet interfaces gives good isolation already but I've still seen persistent lightning induced problems on site to site wireless that were only addressed when installation of surge protection was finally allowed. It's not much of an expense compared to replacing a dead switch and perhaps equipment further on. One instance I know about happened to someone I know. A full rack of a digital A/V distribution system at his luxury home was written off by lightning for the lack of surge protection on a run to a large pergola in the gardens. It wasn't done by me otherwise it would have had it or more likely a run of fibre to the pergola. The damage bill came out at $AUD 40k-ish.
Nice job!
Nice slim charger, although I do feel as though it should be under some sort of cover... A few years of weather Isn't gong to be kind to that thing.
Like this charger.
Great peace of kit,definitely get yourself one
Chargers shouldn't need apps and internet connections, if you have an ISP problem does that stop you charging the car?
No it doesn't. You can still charge the car 🙂
The internet connection is law ( yes law! ) under the Smart Charge Point Regulations
Lovely looking charger. I work for Aurora so I might be a biased 😂
I must be missing something because i still cant get my head around the band 1 & band 2 cables in the same containment box. It seems for EV this has become acceptable.
Yep, its a load of rubbish! Where EV, smart meters and air source nonsense is concerned, they make their own rules to suit themselves. Industry's becoming a joke.
I did an install in November and the brass bolt in the earth rod clamps shattered in the cold, less than 3 weeks after the initial instal. very awkward
I've stopped fitting the small rods with small style clamps. EVERY one I've ever inspected (including ones I've fitted) have always snapped off. I'll now only fit the larger style ones, never seen one of those snap 👍
You need a proper 16mm or 20mm rod with a G clamp the small stuff is crap
Nice looking charger guys 👍 Can the same data cable (1nr) be used for CT monitoring and hardwired internet or would an additional cable be needed? Assume Cleveland cables would be keen to know also☝️
I think you can as from memory pins 1 2 3 6, Orange and Green pair in B wiring, are the data ones, the other two pairs could be used for anything else.
Loving your videos and your work. I see for the video the RJ45s you are using are in not shielded. I would worry the Cat cable would get unwanted noise/voltage from the power cables in the EV Ultra Cable. Is this not an issue?
The twisted pair is enough to prevent interference. Remember it’s an EV charger at the end of the wire not a data centre.
Agree with @magarlands6123..its hit and miss with brass bolts....Theres a very fine line between too tight and breaking and not tight enough.../ poor contact...Thomas Nagy used s.steel bolts...P S. careful where you put the crimped lug.
Is the indication that the RCD has tripped the light bar being off?
The internal DC element
No CT monitoring for this charger? 👀 How does it know if the house is overloaded? 😅
That why you calculate maximum demand before you start. Not all installs require Load management.
Hello 🤗
5:36 indication that the RCD has tripped, what powers the light?
DC leakage is built in. Obvs no light when the external AC RCD trips.
That looks a lot like a single pole RCBO from lewden there. Naughty naughty.
They are the minature double versions
@@efixx Music to my ears! I believe Lewden call them “Single pole plus switched neutral” as the over current protection is obviously only protecting the live side. But I believe this satisfies the requirements of part 7 as it does indeed disconnect ALL live conductors. Sadly I see many non compliant EV installations usually because either the RCD is protecting multiple circuits or because the incorrect type of RCD has been selected.
Not a very long life span if you got to replace the old one
Tesla ones need the Tesla app - before the days of OCCP
Why don't EV Charger manufacturers include as standard suitable sized knockouts for SWA cable supplying the load?
I am not familiar with Uk electric and Ev chargers.. Why is there such a low value requirement for earth impedance concerning Ev chargers? Is it a requirement from the manufacturer? With a T.T earth system the max impedance can be 50 V/0.03 A (1667 Ohms). 50 V is the max acceptable safe voltage, while 30 mA is the Rcd max fault current, before it trips.
Earth discs are far more effective, easier to install, and can be installed in locations where you can't install an earth rod. They cost a bit more.
Challenge in this install as the area is tarmaced
They’re not more effective at all
Why not cat5e or 6? 5 is a very old standard and not good for distance like this, not good for outside either.
Cat 5 implies cat5e because you can't get the old cat 5 anymore 😂
It's a 'charger', 10M would be overkill for the piddly amount of data flowing even it's full blown web interface if it has one. If it's purely for command and statistics it could be done with a 9600 serial link. 100m distance officially too. It's hard to imagine cat5e (or cat5 for that matter) not being up to the job.
They're not streaming 4K video to the damn thing, FFS.
@@Grizzly01-vr4pn still, if your installing any new equipment, its good to future proof. these standards are also more reliable
@@retrozmachine1189 fair point, some things just work
Salt water helps with earth rods
How long does it help for, though? Won't it give an artificially low reading that will go back up again once the salt washes away?
@@thomasdalton1508Doesn't matter how long it lasts: it is not an approved method for lowering the impedance.
@@deang5622 Presumably it isn't approved because of precisely the problem I mentioned.
@@thomasdalton1508 Yes, you could be right about that!!
Gordon's finally got rid of that dodgy Tesla then
Yes but smart meter still a problem 😉
Elon free :)
You blithely said download the app and set up an account… I don't mind doing that for added features that I can choose to use or not. But if it's required for basic functionality then that's a No Sale.
It’s part of the Smart Charging Regulations in the UK - complain to the government
@@efixx What on earth were they thinking of?
@@efixx "Is your smart charger about to become dumb? Don’t get caught out, says myenergi" In this case getting stiffed for connectivity charges, But there are other ways you can be held hostage when dependent on remote services or lose your investment entirely when the service goes dark. Regulations then are setting customers up to be stiffed. (The quote is from the myenergi blog, not putting a link as TY eats them.)