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“completely unprovoked and for no reason at all DaBaby was thinking about gay men” this is absolutely killer line right here😂😂😂
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@Patrick Cc: and you're pandering for likes views and general acceptance. That's where that comment came from. Patrick lookin like the next apologetic Macklemore.
@@humanitiestheproblem oh no, another one 😭
@@jascerise812 prolly dababy on a Alt account
@@humanitiestheproblem completely unprovoked and for no reason at all @humanitiestheproblem was thinking about lgbtq people
It’s sad how the world treated Janet Jackson after the Super Bowl situation. Justin barely getting any backlash will always be crazy to me.
Back then, women weren't given the benefit of the doubt. If they were in the wrong light when compared to a man- they were unjustifiably in the wrong.
@@HooLeePhucingSheet "back then"?? It was 10 yrs ago not 1950 lol the fact is Justin was at the top of his game, Janet was on her way out, if you want to blame anyone blame her record labels for cutting ties and letting the industry take her down. Edit : apparently everyone's hung up on a typo, EVEN 20 yrs ago sexism WAS NOT SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE lol
It’s not fair how so much of the hate was directed at her and not Justin Timberlake, the man who had Janet Jackson’s breast revealed (it might’ve been an accident, but Idk, it feels like he’s more to blame here)
@@aidanmallon9879Janet wanted that to happen and everyone knew she told Justin to do it
@@dantedlane2 Is she the one who came up with it, though, or was it Justin
How Timberlake get’s off Scot free from running away and hanging Janet Jackson out to dry is beyond me.
Look at how the world treated her brother. It’s not that hard to imagine she was treated this badly.
honestly
The Macklemore one is like what happened with Billie. How you gotta make an artist feel bad about winning to that extend when its not their fault they win
especially because Macklemore was actually a good rapper with meaningful music. Winning against Jay Z, Kanye and Kendrick Lamar is lowkey crazy though.
@rebecca1331 for real i loved all the albums that year but for me The heist spoke to me in a way none of the others did. Maybe its because i was a 19 year old white guy and it spoke to my life experiences it was a great album.
Billie eyelish is a bad influence. Medicorely talented nepo baby. No one should be applauding that
It’s all a show, they’re “entertainers” at the end of the day. Most newer mainstream artists like billie and nas x are industry plants
I agree, “The Town” is still one of my favorite rap songs. Macklemore has a hilarious and excellent verse on Blue Scholars’ “Tommy Chong.” “Otherside” with the RHCP sample of the same name is a beautiful and sad song about the dangers of drug addiction and a culture that promotes drug use. I have a ton of respect for the both of them.
What happened to Janet really hurts my heart. Imagine being accdientally exposed to millions of people like that and then YOU get in trouble for it. That has to be crushing.
I think the major problem was her reaction. I know, I know. But if she had reacted as "yeah I planned this" and put a badass face this would never be the biggest flaw of her career.
@NaLipe If she acted as though she planned it, then she would be admitting to committing an act of public indecency at the biggest televised event in America. I don't think that would have gone over well, especially back then
@@cousinmajin Madonna always did this. Nothing new in the mall.
...but she was wearing a pasty. U don't put on a pasty unless ur planning on someone seeing ur titty. It happened right after the line "I'll have u naked by the end of this song." I think it was planned and it backfired so she said it was an accident.
@NaLipe Madonna has always been risqué, however to my knowledge she has never appeared nude on anything other than adult programming. Especially not something as widely publicized and family friendly as the Super Bowl. Showing her boobs in a magazine or movie is not even close to the same thing.
I respect Macklemore. Good dude, the grammys really put him on the spotlight, at least he had the decency to call it out.
Imagine if he DIDN'T apologize to Kendrick for winning.
Definitely overhated. Not saying his music is great or anything but he seems genuine and self aware of his place as a white rapper
I love Macklemore man. He’s a good rapper. Good kid maad city should have won but macklemores was great
@@redbluebird6490 why can’t both be true
Dude, Macklemore shouldn’t have apologized. Almost nobody who wins a Grammy is really the artist that should win it, by apologizing and posting it for everyone to see he just showed everyone how self conscious and sensitive he is, I think that’s what really made him lose respect in rap.
Dababy: "you know what I'm saying?" Everyone: "no"
"Diddy be wanting to party and you GOT to tell him no"😂😂(that's my theory lol)
I never heard the Cee-lo story. But he had a lot more hits over the years than just two. It’s crazy what he did.
People never heard of Goodie Mob.
@@marcen12 it definitely shows
@marcen12 goodie mob didn't really have mainstream hits tho
@@Gordon.Pinkerton They were in the same league as OutKast. They did have hits but, like Radiohead, they had mainstream obscurity.
@marcen12 "hits" doesn't mean "good songs". You can't really have hits at the same time as mainstream obscurity, the two don't really go together. If a song is a hit that means it sold big numbers, ie was mainstream
Janet deserves all the flowers. She set the blueprint for todays artists. It’s unfortunate that people are just now recognizing her impact in this industry
She set the blue print??? Lol no mam she did not
@@Cocoapuff-uv9lz lol clearly u don’t understand pop culture
Cry me a river. A millionaire who got lil bullied
@@Cocoapuff-uv9lz if she didn’t then tell us who did?
I’m pretty sure she got shafted by the labels to make way for the next generation. They didn’t want her anymore and give more power to the Jackson family. The labels have been in fight with Michael Jackson for minute and wanted all his masters
In an age where we hold people accountable for things they said 20 years ago, it seems messed up that we don't apologize for wrongfully demonizing someone 20 years ago. Poor Janet.
good point
I doubt the kind of person who got seriously offended by seeing a boob for 1 second would be open to reconsidering anything.
Good idea. Who’s gonna take the lead on that, though? I ask that because we also live in an age of “as long as I get mine”
@@istrumguitars wish in one hand, shit in the other... Maybe if the world were fair
Are you surprised? Like you said, people this day and age will hold others accountable for things they did/said decades ago, do you honestly expect the same hateful idiots to apologize for mistreating someone?
What’s really disgusting to me is how people can get away with the most filthy and bare outfits imaginable, but the second the very implied skin is shown, a line is crossed.
lol exactly. What was the point of grabbing her outfit in the first place? It was to expose her red bra underneath. Very suggestive and revealing in the first place. Sorry you had to see a horrifying nipple I guess??
The backlash could've been an astroturf campaign by several multi-Megadollar ministries or a purity culture obsessed sect like the Institute in Basic Life Principles, also known as the Gothardists.
It wasn't that Ashlee's backing track played too early, it was the wrong track. I watched it happen live, they introduced her for that part as playing a different song and she was preparing to sing something else then when the track for pieces of me played, which she had already performed in the show earlier, that happened. How do people not remember that.
He was probably a toddler when it happened, and so are many of the viewers of this video.
I was born in the early 2000s but that must have happened when I was a toddler cus I didn't even remember Jessica having a sister lol) plus I barely knew about Jessica in general). Why does Ashlee get so much hate for that though when it was the wrong track?
@@murasakino101 All I know is that it probably has something to do with the obscenely rich costs people were paying for concerts, and possible prevalent money struggles among the fanbase, depending on the economy of the time and the states they came from.
@@dominicfucinari1942 ahh I see. That makes sense. She did just walk off the stage after hundreds of people paid, and idk if they got reimbursed for tickets at that time. Not saying she shouldn't have walked off since it was an awkward moment and she didn't know what else to do, but I guess that could be another reason people were mad
The fact that “The Heist” beat out “Good Kid, Maad City,” and “Yeezus,” tells you all you need to know about the Grammy’s
Honestly who gives af. Grammys been be for a long time
The Grammys have always been ass
Yeh honestly the Grammy's have always been garbage, their prestige is artificial.
The Grammys are like the Oscars..Industry pat on the back...total BS..Macklemore won cause he sold well...surprise!
No way man
Jackson getting blackballed and Timberlake not even getting a slap on the wrist after the Wardrobe Malfunction has always boggled my mind.
Welcome to America. The blame for whatever happens is easy to place on the Black woman and exempt the white man involved. But the country's history predicts the outcome of this tragic, depressing moment perfectly.
They prolly just used her as a scapegoat to save face for their own broadcast and show channel lines, putting the blame on her
Patriarchy in play.
The podcaster brought race into it w/o anything to back up his claims, though. I challenge anyone to cite anyone who blamed her because of her race. WTF?!
It's because it was her breast and they both planned it. So not only was she involved in the planning but then she also straight up flashed everyone watching. I don't think either of them deserved any severe punishment but there's definitely a logical reason Janet got it worse.
19:05 “Diddy says ‘life got better’ after getting closer to kids during the pandemic” AGED LIKE A PROTEIN SHAKE
I peeped that, too 😵💫
I am using that "protein shake" phrase from now until eternity 😅
"Aged like a protein shake" os now firmly within my lexicon, thank you😂
The thing about Ashley was not so much about using pre-recorded vocals, it was that she was using it on SNL. At that point every artist or band always played live.
The song Pieces of me from autobiography she had already performed it. So when you hear the song, come on. And she's confused and she dances. She wasn't lying about that. She had already performed that song earlier in the show. And she was supposed to perform another song. So they messed up and that's where the whole thing came from they should have admitted that they put on playback from.another song and saved her the blowback tha was unjustified to begin with
it proved what a fake no talent she was/is, the world collectively cringed and said no thanks.
I was just gonna say that lol, she already did pieces of me and was supposed to be performing a different song. Also, she refused to admit she uses backing vocals and came up with four different excuses, first one obviously being "My band played the wrong song".. and then it was they played the wrong audio and weren't supposed to include the vocals, then she said she had laryngitis, lol.
@@juliebear6413 That wasn't a backing track. She was caught lip syncing. This happens way more in music than most people think.
Janet deserves a national apology from several ppl. What happened to her was wrong!
She does, doubt she'll get it, too much like right I guess
I agree. I'm not a fan of either of them but I do think it's really unfair. It was just a brief flash of a NIPPLE. Not even a whole tit. And how come Timberlakes career wasn't damaged at all ?? That's well dodgey.
It was staged all around, genius.
@@giantturd5157 🤫🤫🤫😝😝😝
She literally got a national apology from Justin and even forgave him.
The Janet Jackson things is absolutely heartbreaking💔
systematiclly she got screw by media, gov, etc ; even though she was popular and had money there is no just reason at all to ever have someone go through that, and yet it happens and jus gets looked over
Hey, I was a young man at the time. I still havent recovered to this day. PTSD and I see titty rings EVERYWHERE
Except she wasn't blackballed and still tours to this day. She took a step back and has publicly spoken about this. She should not even be on this list.
Rappers being held accountable for saying insensitive shit in between rapping the most degenerate lyrics you can imagine is hilarious
Lol
I'm so glad I came across your channel the other day. I love your video style and had ran out of content from similar channels I watch. I'm now subscribed!
Janet Jackson can never lose her career.. she’s literally a living legend
Right
artists lose their careers frequently, music moves on over time…she was already on the decline then
She looks weird lmao
Except she lost her career and is BARELY recognized by this generation...
Who?
that Janet situation will never not confuse me. she literally did nothing wrong.
Literally like how tf can you prosecute a victim? Like even if it was planned and went wrong the shame of being exposed to people resonates with me a lot.
Not just like 1 or 2 but billions of people, and then everyone blamed her??? Wtf
@@Bruisedmykneesagain Even if? No, it was 100% planned and both she and Justin acknowledged that it was planned.
@@lilsavdabest my point still stands
@@lilsavdabest you got the vid link?
I’m glad you rescued yourself when talking about Queen Janet. I attended one of her sold-out shows in 2017 and it was one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to.
16:35 Fox's lipsync of Ashlee's fail cracked me up😂
I respect Macklemore for apologizing but DaBaby was just forcing his apology to get his fans back you’re indeed right that was “the dumbest downfall”
Macklemore had nothing to apologize for. He didn't give himself an award. He was clearly aware that everyone wanted someone else to win which made it awkward. He just recognized that but didn't apologize.
Nah, he just Dababy just didn't know that the suburban privileged white kids that bump his music didn't understand hood culture
DaBaby going to come back. Trust me. No one cares about lgbtqWi-Fi password like that 😂
@@odinfawks7974 you’re so funny wow
ive been going back to some older macklemore music recently and wish hes still mainstream. his older stuff is honestly pretty good but his career went down from something out of his control.
The whole situation with Janet Jackson was ridiculous. I still do not know why till this day the hate that she had gotten that was out of her control. She was treated unfairly and did not deserve the hate as well as other things that came from the incident
It was because of her skin colour. And JT didnt back her up
I guess it something to do with "american values". In most more secular countries that would have been laughed away and Janet would still be a star.
@@imfeelinggoodnl going to need a big fat fucking source on that one, not everything can be blamed on skin colour smh
@@imfeelinggoodnl Not only didn't back her up, he threw her under the bus. I distinctly remember him giving an interview and saying the words "I was appalled".
I feel like the ppl that complaint and the media just wanted money from this and they won
I love this channel. I have been watching for days. Great content my bruh. Peace and good luck to you.
You out videos together so well, really enjoy the channel
Janet Jackson got all the heat from the Superbowl, while Justin Timberlake didn't. How is that fair?
I'm older n grew up Janet's music n was sad she got the fallout she did but he didn't get shamed😔
Because Janet Jackson was washed up at the time and justin was the most popular singer of the time.
@@adamclark9004Janet was not washed up in 2004...put some respect on Miss. Jackson's name with no publicity that album still went #2 behind Usher on the Billboard 200 albums.
@@adamclark9004 Washed up and performing at the Super Bowl?
"How dare SHE have a wardrobe malfunction that Justin ripped off!"
Janet didn’t deserve the scrutiny. But I’m glad people are kinder to her now, knowing it was NOT HER FAULT. She’s always seemed like a kind-hearted person. Her music is timeless and she deserves everything.
"NoT hEr FaUlT" -every moron in this comment section
it was he fault. she meant for it to happen. you think it was unscripted?
@@beerdo have u ever considered being a normal, not shitty person?
@@beerdo and your proof of this is what exactly?
@Ty kamen who tf covers their nipple like that if they're not going to expose the titty. do you REALLY need me to spell that out for you? Jesus christ you're simple, aren't you? 🤣
Ceelo career was way more extensive then you mentioned. That's why his fall was so big.
I feel bad for Janet, that incident wasn’t her fault
To this day, I'll never understand how the entire world just so casually blamed Janet for her "Wardrobe Malfunction" even tho everyone clearly saw it wasn't her fault!
Boohooo.
She wore tear-away clothing and COINCIDENTALLY had her nipple decorated n ready for it's closeup. What a fortunate misfortune. It's almost as if she knew it would be exposed or something... LOL It WAS partially her fault. She knew. Her nip was prepared for it. LOL
Entire world? Not really, just americans
you realize they practice those performances atleast 10 times That blouse was supposed to tear where it tore and both participants knew it, the actual messed up part is the controversy over it not that fact her breast was shown on TV on purpose. America the porn capital of the world and its fake puritanical undertones.
@@thisandthat1233 yeah TBH it was just America but it felt like the whole world BC they didn't play her music ANYWHERE
What happened to Janet Jackson is incredibly absurd. It's only because of the money advertisers grabbed back that she was scapegoated.
It's pathetic how people sued over this.
@@theforce5191 They really acted like she blew someone off on stage instead of just a covered titty getting out. And people whine how nowadays you get cancelled for anything, jesus christ.
The witchhunt against her while absolutely nothing happened to Timberlake was really quite telling and fucked up. Especially since it wasn't even that big of a deal.
They both did the shit on purpose. Please..
That's the absurdity of the ones who want to make rules in USA. Being unapologetic mindless violent pigs most of the time, but getting choked at one of the most harmless thing in the universe, a boob.
Love your channel and soothing narration
Appreciate the thoughtful outlook on folks here. Very very fair!
The fact that Macklemore's album name was called "the heist" is wayy too funny considering how the artists were robbed 😭
lmfaoooo never realized this
The Ashley Simpson incident was definitely a think for its time cause nowadays a lot of artists have the backing vocals at their shows and it’s become way more accepted by people
There are TV shows where the artists aren't even allowed to perform live, they have to do playback (there have been since the 1980s). So this was really blown out of proportion.
I absolutely agree…
yea he literally said that in the video...
But wasn't the issue also that when she tried to redeem herself *without* the background track, she simply had a bad performance proving that she can't sing?
It reminds me of how everyone hated on Tpain for autotune and 10 years later everyone uses it
Funniest thing about the Ashlee Simpson thing is that like two weeks later Eminem was on SNL *blatantly* using multiple backing tracks and nobody really talked about it.
Macklemore deserves his flowers. The guy made a legit album
quickly, list 7 songs from the heist without googling.
compared to Kendrick….. ? lol no. the point is he didn’t come close.
lol, love the heist 😂 its rare that I enjoy more than two or three songs from an album
wtf is up with all this "deserves his flowers" shit?
Macklemore had so much ahead of him but because of the grammy, his career and his image almost got fully destroyed
@@GK-gc9cv I think you saw a different video. he put out the apology because he was facing so much backlash. people act like he got to choose who won the grammy. he felt pressured to put it out. If kendric is cool with him then so am I
@@GK-gc9cv see you're the problem
@@GK-gc9cv I would have to kindly disagree, the backlash made him apologize and yes, he didn't have to but it's very hard to think properly when the whole hip hop world dispises you.
@@GK-gc9cv lol it's people like you who jump to conclusions and are apart of "cancel culture" how does it feel?
I mean yea posting the text saying what a good sport I am is pretty rough but did he deserve cancelation over it… no
The truly shameful moment was when Ashlee blamed her band.
She was 19 and in panic what do you expect
@@Robby1456 yea wouldn't be surprised if one of the producers told her to just say that lol
Who cares! She was probably told to say that by her lable and management... The public and media should have shame not that Ashlee Simpson whom was just doing her job, most artist mime on tv shows and movies!
@@shaunhoward6838 it's not the first or last time someone lip synced. The ridicule she got was stupid
she was late by like half a second..her dumbass shoulda just started "singing"...the show must go on..but no she decides to do the STUPIDEST DANCE then blame someone else
They get in the entertainment world and the things they see and go through man I can only imagine
The heist was an incredible album and he produced it with ryan lewis themselves, they weren't signed by a record studio at the time. He was the first to reach this success and grammy wins without a studio behind him. But he also has a lifelong struggle with addiction and had several relapses in the past decade. It's not as easy as "a text ended his career". He's a dad now and happily married and certainly reached several ultimate dreams. Maybe he prefers to have a calmer position now musicwise, who knows.
Yeah I felt clickbaited because I was like whoa what happened did Macklemore do something insane?? No the Grammies are just dumb as always and it’s a reach to say someone’s career was “destroyed” just because they don’t… top the charts again with subsequent releases? Lol
I loved Ashlee Simpson growing up her downfall was so sad to watch, she had potential to be just as big if not bigger than her sister & looking back at it now I understand why she broke into that dance she was literally a teenager and still in that awkward growing up stage, such a shame the media tore her apart over one incident
same
"Pieces of Me" actually a very great song :) Still great to this day :)
The Janet Jackson incident I never understood why it was such a huge deal. How did a 1 second nip slip traumatize millions all over the country? I believe the people filing complaints and lawsuits saw a pay day or some attention and they went for it.
Merica is just prude af. It’s the same nowadays. Some people just haven’t seen titties and are scared of em
It was a bit longer than a second, but as far as i can see it now and evwn back then, it was a publicity stunt that backfired. No woman would look at her nipple exposed to the world to see for that long. She was looking at it for quite some time before covering it up. That's not how a normal woman behaves. They usually tend to cover it in light speed
You're forgetting that families watch the superbowl... It's not an 18+ event.
Bc it was on purpose, trying to stay relevant
@@biljancanin ok and obviously she would b in shock?? U expect her to cover it in 0.5 seconds, when she has to process what just happened??? "They usually tend to cover it in light speed" I don't think you know a woman that has experienced this, so you'd know how???
I love your channel. It’s like SunnyV2 but about entertainment and not rampantly bigoted. Kudos!
Bigoted 😭😂 sorry I can never take that word seriously
Cee Lo was in goodie mob and had way more musical history than his two songs that this guy has heard of
It's funny how many people essentially got PTSD over a boob.
yet the porn industry is one of the highest paid industries. makes no f*ckin sense. especially since it was CLEARLY an accident
I mean, who ain't seen a tittie?😆😆 Ridiculousness
People make a big deal out of nothing. That's just typical human sheep behavior
And it was partially covered.... IDK.... maybe it's a old school troll job
The late 90s and early 00s were a wild ride I’m not sure I could properly explain to someone who wasn’t there.
"Ceelo only brought us 2 hits, but was always present in the pop scene." My dude, he was in a legendary group called Goodie Mob before he even went solo lol....
I had to scroll so long to find this comment lol I was so confused, because I KNEW I heard that voice outside of those 2 songs! Just couldn't pull the name of the group from my memory's deep storage 😅
ppl in my generation are really clueless when it comes to pop culture and music from the last 25 years and it’s really sad honestly
@@jakobe_ because I was sooooo confused 😂😭I KNO that man ain't say he only gave us TWO hits
@@jakobe_ to be fair, patrick guy is very young fair enough but truthfully i don't think the group has made a very huge impact for them to stay relevant to many generations compared to outcast, wu-tang, d-block, ruff ryders, Bone thug 'n harmony, etc... when you think of 90's hip hop groups
@@MrDmoney156 the goodie mob has made an huge impact on hip hip. When ppl mention southern hip hop and the influence southern hip hop has had on modern music in general. Goodie mob is one of the few names thats mentioned in that context
This is a hilarious channel.
It is amazing to me that Justin never got much criticism for his behavior and Janet got all the blame. ( The nipple ring was a big red flag that this was planned)
Omg the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction was such a scandal! I remember all of these
I thought it was ridiculous even back then. Oh, a female breast. So?
As a European, I never understood the overreaction about JJ's nipple scandal. Even at the time. It's just a boob. There are celebrities who have killed people and still have their careers intact. I was wondering why we stopped hearing from her. A damn shame.
As an American be glad you're European. People get judged for everything which is why a lot of celebrities here end up having drug and alcohol issues. Comedians can't even be comedians here anymore either. With that being said there is a strong presence of evangelicals and born again Christians here who have large money and sue the shit out of companies when things like the Jessie Jackson situation happen. Our law system is very flawed and abused
"Comedians can't even be comedians here anymore either" explain without going into "racism, homophobia, transphobia and sexism were funny before!! now we cant make jokes about". @@Supkev96
@@Supkev96West Europe crime is heavily rising because of lack of morals, look at the rise of crime in Sweden. Look at crime stats.
@@joemama4473 I assure you it's nothing compared to here. US has multiple cities in the world's top 15 most deadly and I currently live in one. I've lived in Baltimore my whole life and you'd think some of our inner cities resemble third world countries with the conditions they live in. City can't even afford to fix the schools because of corruption and most public city schools don't even have basic amenities like running water and running AC/Heat. We have crazy temperature swings here as well where kids could be going to school in above 90 degree weather with no AC and come winter have no heat in almost sub zero temps.
Europe>usa
Post just gained my respect. 👊
In all honesty what happened with Ashlee Simpson wasn't so horrible or worth a cancelation but... she'd condemned other performers for lip syncing and using backing tracks prior to her SNL fiasco. So it was a case of someone being a hypocrite. Of course a lot of "entertainers" use backing tracks, but her saying previously that it was "fake" and "being dishonest" was what caused her a lot of backlash. She shouldn't have been so quick to judge others and she probably would've been able to recoup.
I personally feel that despite the superbowl fiasco Janet Jackson is still doing just fine and will always be. A legend, Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, and Icon.🤘🏾💜🤘🏾
Is she a rock artist?
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot for black cat I believe she is
They did her dirty on that bullshit Billboard 200 best singers chart. She wasn't even on there. It's stupid how many people just forgot about her.
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@@definitelynotanAIchatbot Don't be dumb. There are MANY other Genres in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Eminem is in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Look into it and educate, MOST of the people inducted are NOT ROCK.
The entire controversy surrounding Janet Jackson was seriously messed up. That poor woman dealt with so much shit that she shouldn't have been subjected to. Haven't heard of her in a while, hope she's doing well.
"Poor woman". I doubt she's "poor"...
@@johnaustin209 Oh my goodness, John. Pick up a thesaurus.
@@johnaustin209 you know what the hell they mean, come on now
Hey! Do you have any plans today?
@@ninanimble3883 Whine whine!
I feel you about rappers live performances. I went to see some of the guys from Wu Tang and there were five guys on stage all holding mics i couldn't even tell what song they were doing most of the time.
Very interesting, I wasn’t aware of some of these.
The fact that Janet Jackson took the brunt of the punishment is absolutely disgusting.
I’m from Seattle, and before Macklemore blew up, he was pretty big in the underground scene and also did a LOT for the local hip hop community, and you also can’t mention him without mentioning Ryan Lewis, his producer/partner. I don’t listen to his music anymore and was kinda already off of it by the time he blew up, but prior to his blow up he helped a lot of underground rappers in Seattle to build their careers. I 100% agree with Kendrick, who SHOULD have won, and those texts should of stayed private cuz all that was super cringe, but I’ll always have respect for Macklemore just for what he helped to do for a lot of Seattle rappers.
I still listen to a lil bit of Macklemore, I don’t like his mainstream sht tho like thrift shop
I don't understand and I'm not throwing any shade. What do people mean by should have won? Like, they do vote for the winner right?
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Whaaaat. I'm from Seattle and I know rappers he knows he didn't do shit for them or our city. Ryan Lewis filthy on his own I went to his house a few times with an old friend of mine before got big with Macklemore, he was pretty down to earth guy.
Wow I didn't like Mackelmore much but now I respect him much more, thanks
15:15 Ashlee Simpson busted out a fortnite dance over a decade before the game's inception I've rewatched that lil clip like 10 times and i'm still dying 😆
Patrick is by far the best storyteller if that’s what he’s doing I feel like I was there it’s crazy
Janet is a full blown legend, i don’t think society at large gives af about that Super Bowl thing.. and tbh how many artist of her era are still out there making music?
You're right. But media likes to remind you that "you care."
I had no idea Macklemore had a 'downfall' ? He always had put out his own music, he had a kid, his life shifted and it seemed very natural as did his music... his second album with Ryan makes A LOT more sense now lol
What did he do that was so wrong? He won the award but it was only the OPINION of the public that he didn’t deserve it. And because of that he lost his career? I don’t understand. Did I miss something? I’m asking cuz I’m not sure I understand his downfall
@@gbear2253 he didn't do something wrong Altho the reaction of the culture that made him fall. he won an award that the people saw he didn't deserve and while he was trying to tell the world that he thinks the same way. They just didn't care cuz "the people always right".
@@SamXfullhealthBar that’s unbelievable!!! I could understand them not agreeing, but to lead to his downfall as if he did something terrible or wrong??? Insane!!!
No one respects him and he keeps doing cringey shit.
@@gbear2253 he attached himself to certain political movements and alienated a lot of his listener base
In Britain, I think the reaction to JJs "wardrobe malfunction" would have been "oops, never mind!
i remember the janet jackson thing like it was yesterday. i was watching at my christian friends house with their whole family. their jaws literally dropped, it was hilarious
i think the backlash for Ashley was so strong because of the Milli Vanilli controversy from before. a “won’t get fooled again” situation
I doubt it. The Milli Vanilli incident was over 14 years before that, I doubt anybody remembered it by that time (or saw any paralells). She was an easy target for jokes and people will always go for the low hanging fruits. A more well-established artist would probably have survived this, but she was just at the start of her carrer and didn't really handle the incident well. She wasn't the first artist who had a playback accident, and she definitely also wasn't the last one.
😂 highly doubtful that happened long before, I doubt anyone listening to her music knew about them
I don’t think that was it. In Milli Vanilli’s case, it was not even their voices on the tracks. They were straight up frauds. For Ashley Simpson she was lip-syncing and it got messed up. It was still her voice though. Artists lip-sync all of the time (i.e., Britney Spears) but at least it is still their voice
I honestly never knew why Macklemore got so quiet I had no idea he had a “drama” makes me sad I absolutely loved and still love his music
have you ever listened to Bashfortheworld
I didn't know either, but I definitely stopped listening to him after he got Kendrick Lamars award, I just didn't understand why and who made that decision, didn't make any sense... It still doesn't.
@@chingchingchingching2064 yea but i mean its not their fault and i think that’s why its so unfortunate
The committee award is about pumping up someone's album and fame, unfortunately that backfired on them.
I thought his focused on his daughter completely and only that
damn these time stamps are nuts!
I still and will always love Ms. Jackson ❤😊
I liked macklemore. He seemed positive and genuine and his music was like camp rap. I respected it
The message seemed really passive aggressive though.
@@UnCreativeDeconstructionism I just see it as him being aware of the situation, wanted to speak out about it, but also not diminish The Heist and his own efforts. Mack had been an active rapper for years before The Heist (as the song 10.000 hours allude to), and considering all the love he has put out, I think we can say he was just overthinking. meh, I suppose that is still passive aggressive. The public arena is ruthless. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis used to be some of my favourites 🤷♂
@@Merido I think I learned every single song on that album. Thin line, wings, starting over. Damn, I cried with Neon Cathedral.
😩when I saw good kid mad city in that category I knew what was about to happen 😔these award shows start a lot of drama
@@UnCreativeDeconstructionism Or you're reading to much into it. People are to eager to burn peoples careers over a wrong word, but in his case there's nothing wrong he did. If these morons invested their hate into something that actually mattered like US's war crimes and stopping them, fixing their politics, now that would be something else.
What Janet Jackson was put through by the media and public is unforgivable.
Cry me a river....
@@johnaustin209 shut up
What her brother did to those kids is "unforgivable".
@@christopherwhiteside4448 absolutely. There is no comparison. Not sure how it’s relevant to this tho
Maybe next time she won’t plan a stunt like that.
The fact that Justin Timberlake is getting tons of heat at the moment (thank you Britney) makes me feel a bit better. Poor Janet. Shes an icon!
Moral of the story: social media isn't only the downfall of your everyday guy but of celebrities as well
I saw the Janet Jackson thing live watching the Superbowl. It happened so fast you couldn't see anything. If the media didn't try to be the voice of the people watching it, most people wouldn't have even known they saw it
That’s the most reasonable take I’ve seen yet, and so true. People forget the monopolies and conglomerates shape the idea of what people think, that things weren’t like they are now where anyone could voice against it. Whatever the news said, largely, is what people went off of.
the media doesn't try to be "the voice of the people", it tries to manipulate everyone
The media were the only people who were upset. Even my grandparents were chill about it.
I love these comments!
Kinda surprised not to see Sinead O’Connor on here considering how drastically that moment altered her career and that most people on KZhead probably wouldn’t know her now
there's no hate in my comment and I'm a big Sinead fan, I'm just answering. your second half of your comment is exactly why. people won't click on a video of a rundown on why someone they don't know doesn't have a career anymore.
And she was just speaking the truth and she helped lots of men who were molested to come out and get Justice
@@thepubknight6144 I agree with Sinead. The hate was uncalled for
@@leaf6356 that’s fair especially if it was only about her but when it’s a about multiple people I think what she did ruined her career a lot more than the last dude who nobody knows that took to long to put out an album
That was big but I doubt Patrick was even born yet when that happened, lol.
lmao this ceelo thing is gonna have me laughing all day. hahahaha
The Family Guy parody of Ashlee Simpson will never get old😂
The thing about Ashlee is that even though every artist was doing the same thing the public was still under the impression pop stars actually sang without backup vocals in live shows. It was literally the moment this practice was exposed... similar to how we are starting to find out that pop stars and even rappers that claim "writing" credits most of the time are just using a ghost writer. Big mainstream studio music is all fake as fuck.
It's wild people think auto tune is the real voice.
yeah first time because Milli Vanilli was a smooth situation lol
@@mauricioprado5189 Milli Vanilli wasn't the same thing at all. Milli Vanilli didn't sing in the songs they recorded which is quite different.
I remember how big “lip-syncing” was when I was a kid. Now it’s just an accepted fact. Anyone who’s ever been to or even seen a live show knows it’s happening and it’s not a big deal, it makes the overall product better. Nobody wants to go to a show when half of it is just the artist out of breathe. It’s a lot of physical work being on stage
@@bigpapi6688 I understand, but traditionally that was the entire point of a pop star. Madonna and Michael were a sight to behold because of what they would do onstage WHILE singing their songs. Everything is easy mode now for these artists.
I'm a fan of Macklemore and I wondered why I'd never heard much of him for years. It's sad to hear his story. The stress of a famous artist's life can be overwhelming. I just hope he can be happy as a person and as an artist even if he isn't producing big hits anymore.
Hes got a clothing line and is affilitated with golfing he's probably alright lol im sure new music soon too, hes also more than a one hit wonder but eh
Yeah same here i was also wondering all these years what happened to this dude now i know
I, along with about 6,000 other fans, saw him in concert 4 weeks ago, and he was as good as ever. Love his last album. So, dunno about the US, but in Europe he still fills concert halls.
Doesn’t seem like that text would cost him his career lol
Feel sad for that robber 😂
didn't expect this to escalate from "cringe attempt to address backlash via twitter" to ACTUAL MURDER
I can’t believe that Super Bowl performance of Janet’s is even still being brought up like wtf it happened so long ago and it wasn’t even her fault.
umm ya it was she planned it obv bc she had a little titty tassle on under two sets of clothes..she told him to do it and said itll b ok bc ill have a covering underneath...she exposed herself to millions of children, not too far off from her baby hanging out the window freak of a brother..sexual perversion to children runs in the family
She did not at all look surprised when it happened and instead of immediately covering up, she posed to make sure we all saw it. Fishy...
definitely staged. on stage. a bra does not rip off that way. i know from personal experience. rawr.
@@CieraC1993 Wdym?? The woman freaked out and looked horrified. The lights went out before she could even pose. What is you on???
@@sleepy7515 The freak out was part of the act. Tell me, when she freaked out, did she grab her breast or did she grab her stomach in a pose? I'll summarize for you. She looked down, saw her breast was out, put on a face and grabbed her stomach for a pose. Only AFTER the lights went out did she grab her breast. Re-watch it.
Janet and Ashley were treated mad unfairly, what they both did was literally nothing. Just goes to show how much our culture has changed over that time period
Interesting tho how the gender and race card was applied to Janet but not Ashley. I personally think that neither played a role in people’s over the top bullshit reaction to both of them
@@eastsiderider I don’t think it was race or gender either, it was that lip syncing was super looked down on, and society was more sexually conservative and tv was meant to be pure for the children. nowadays everyone uses backing tracks so nobody cares, and our society is so over saturated with sex that a nipple tassel won’t cause fainting spells anymore
Ashley got it hard cuz of the whole "it was my band's fault" it changed people's perception of her, like she was willing to throw her band under the bus whether she knew she was lip syncing or not.
@@TheFawse the thing with Ashlee tho is that she wasn’t actually lip syncing in that performance. She had a backing track that was being used to fill out her vocals, which was (and still is) a very common practice for live tv performances. The worst part of this is the amount of musicians that said shit about her and act like they had never used backing vocals themselves.
Culture has gotten worse lol
Early 2000s concert ticket prices were amazing. And the artists would activity seeing and perform the entire time. These days you count your self lucky if your favorite artist when lip sings. Most of em just hang out on stage and the prices are now 5X more experience. Paying more to receive less is crazy
I think macks "Gemini" album is a classic. It's got so many good songs but people just forgot about him and didn't care to listen.
Macklemore and Janet's downfalls are not their fault. There are lots of voices to give Janet justice nowadays and for good reason. Justice for her! Mack should be treated similarily. It's not his fault that his album won so many awards.
He posted his fake ass apology.
@@RusticRonnie For thing that he shouldn't apologised for in the first place, what are we talking about?
@@Powhart you know specifically why Macklemore won so much all those years ago. He expressed support for homosexuality, That's the only reason why he won. Hip hop is garbage anyway though, just wanted to state facts about mack.
@@PowerRangersFanAntiDinoFury still: he should not aplogise for that.
Macklemore could have sit down some trophies on the stage and walked away
I’m not a fan of Macklemore’s music, but it wasn’t his fault he won the Grammy. It’s every artist’s goal to win, he was in a tough situation that he didn’t cause himself
It's not every artist's goal to win. Most artists with integrity couldn't give a damn about a popularity contest framed as an award show.
The win highlighted Grammy bias. He got the backlash.
Listen to Glorious
My question is if he sincerely didn't think he deserved taking the wins from other competitors, why did he participate in the first place?
Pat where’d you get that World Cup jacket? That shit hard
only thing bout this video that stood out to me was during "Silento" part showing an article about the story. theres also a link on said article that shows quote "Diddy explains how life got better during covid by being around little kids"
Macklemore did nothing wrong. He wrote a quirky song and it got popular. Imagine his horror when they give him the award when you know Kendrick Lamar’s album was one of the greatest of all times
He did wrong by posting the text
@@johnLennon255 It was a mistake when concerning his career, but not a "wrong thing", meaning immoral. Dude didn't deserved the hate, was not his choice to gain the award.
@@thalesanastacio760 his career didn't die specifically cause of this one incident, not like people still upset about it. He just wasn't that good apparently
It's the Grammys fault because they are posing a racist message. Or it's the blacks fault for pushing this perspective and being jealous of a white man's success
I really don’t think that text ended his careeer…. Ppl do worse things and their career doesn’t end
Lmao CeeLo telling pat he's his friend came outta nowhere for me 😂
Bro looked so rough. I guess a guilty conscience and fall from grace will do that. What a weirdo.
I was like wtf
@@SamSlugg456 it's sad bruh cause he had some good songs n now I can't enjoy em as much
Janet and Justin at the Superbowl WAS ABSOLUTELY STAGED!
When it came to the song "Thriftshop", I felt like I was hearing that sax solo in almost every theatrical trailers in the theater during it's release. Just when business is about to pick up in the trailer, the sax part will start playing. Am I crazy?
Its honestly just insane how much the media has disrespected both the Jackson siblings they deserve justice
Micheal Jackson is a literal child rapist does he deserve Justice?
oooof, maybe choose some different words. Publicizing a trial isn't exactly what I would call disrespect. It's public information.
Both? There’s six siblings and we’re basically all exploited.
@@CieraC1993 Thats not all that happened. Yes the trial was big but for Michael I'm talking about the way the media made him out to be this monster and don't get me started on what the police did
Michael Jackson was a sadistic child r@pist.
Cee Lo Green was also basically frontman of Goodie Mob is why he was kind of a star even with 2 hits. He was pretty much famous before his comeback as an RnB singer
No one really mentions that. Like he came out of no where in 2010's. I only knew him as CeeLo Goodie, his voice is unmistakable so it didn't take long for me to catch up.
I couldn't believe I was hearing him on the radio, couldn't mistake that voice! Had hardly heard him since the soul food days
@@joshuabowen6919 he does have one of those voice that once you hear it yo never forget it and can pick it out from anywhere
his 2 solo albums are fucking epic. Getting Grown is probably the best song ever
Dro in da wind
I remember the 90’s when rappers were supposed to be hateful, misogynistic and murderous criminals. So now You can still rap about murder and crime but you can’t offend gay people? That’s nuts and ridiculously asymmetrical
Fr bruh. One of the most famous songs in hip hop say the F word
16:50 "half of my favorite artists just let the song play and jump around" ... Bro wtf are you listening to? 🤣