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Back in 2020, I read a paper that claimed that bulletproof wood might be possible. The moment that I saw this, I felt that I had to test it myself and I spent the next 3 years working on it.
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Nile talks about lab safety: • Chemistry is dangerous.
Music in credits (Walker by SORRYSINES): / walker
RIP the dream of Nigel owning a “nugsmasher pro” would’ve been a truly legendary piece of lab equipment.
I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂
lol if he smoked he could get good use out of it, too bad it was aluminum since it was cheaper than the other option.
He has a Nugsmasher Ultra. More power, more pressure, more nug smashing!
Wewd!! ❤
I really want one so it would have been cool to see one in use!
Nile: *spends $5000 on a press* Also Nile: "WE GOT PINE BECAUSE IT WAS THE CHEAPEST"
he didnt have money left to buy anything else than pine lmao
Haha. Someone get this man a bottle of titebond
Dont forget the US$1,556.37 at 33:52
He’s gotta save money _somewhere_
You gotta realize that they could sell or use that machine in the future, aswell as the fact that they were buying the actual machine for more money than the material because they wanted to proove that even the bad wood could turn bulletproof
Code Bullet randomly appearing in Nigel's video might just be the most Code Bullet thing I've ever seen
Yeah
Yeah I had to stop what I was doing because Code Bullet was the LAST name I expected to hear during this.
Honestly I think the most cold bullet thing is that his solution to the rig falling over was just grabbing a random wet piece of wood and slapping it up in the back.
@@michael9433 He didn't had his Artificial UnIntelligance to think for him!
Also, codebullet appears on the only episode where bullets are actually being fired. What's the odds.
4K Hydraulic Press-Nah 6K Candy Shaper - Take my money
Why do you think he lacks the money to buy a hydraulic press?
@@andyfriederichsen read those numbers again, slowly this time
@@azraellie_ You're the one who needs to read the numbers again.
I love that we get sentences like "It hit me in the head and I was genuinely really surprised" in the classic Nile Red monotone.
Timestamp?
@@blasttyrant3228 29:59
do you think we can get him to send these to demolitionranch?
As well as “i then got rid of the gun I probably shouldn’t have been running with” That made me lose it 😭😭
My favorite is "And again, after fifteen hours of work, I was left with a wet block of wood." at 25:08 I don't know why it cracks me up so much lmao
Hey Nile! I used to work as a Materials Engineer in body armor manufacturing, and what you've experimentally found are some of the core principles of the materials science behind high-performance ballistic armor! Towards the end you mention that you could likely make something half the thickness and still stop a 9mm; take a look at the construction of NIJ level II or level IIIA soft armors: what you'll find is that they are *remarkably* thin. Turns out, high tensile strength is pretty much the number one reason that poly-aramids (Kevlar and the like) are such great armor materials. What I think your pressed-wood plates would serve a better function as is as an up-armor for level II or level IIIA soft armors. This is usually done with a ceramic plate that provides the compressive strength to the initial impact zone that the fibrous soft armor is able to absorb as tensile load, but the densified wood could serve as a great substitute! If you want to get really deep into the armor classification side of things, you can also take a look at "back-face deformation" tests that are done to classify/test armors. Drop me an email if you'd like and I can answer any questions! I'm not in the armor space any more but I have a ton of knowledge built up from the time when I was, and I would love to put it to good use somewhere :P Edit: Someone made the great point that my email isn't super obviously available; it's on my channel (or here: timothy.mgregg@gmail.com) if anyone wants to reach out. I can't promise a prompt response, but I'll try! Also someone pointed out I should have said "Level IIIA soft armor" not "Level III", thanks for the correction, I've edited above!
Ever thought of making a few videos yourself? I'd love Armor Material Science 101
great explanation, but i never trought i would see a body armor expert in a chemistry video comment section XD. anyway, have a wonderful day
cool
Make your own videos on armour
@@DSlydeagreed
We use Sodium Nitrate to wash salmonid eggs at the fish hatchery I work at. It used to clean off bacteria, viruses, and fungal spores without killing the developing eggs. This year we used hydrogen peroxide on pike and Muskie eggs (bad idea), and milk for walleye eggs.
I love how Nile narrates opening the crate with the exact same tone of voice and cadence as he does for narrating very serious chemistry stuff.
If you fancy revisiting this, try carrying out the first chemical wash step under vacuum. The wood contains lots of air, and the presence of the air within the cells prevents the chemicals penetrating through the whole cross section of the piece (thats why the centre looked dry). When pulling a vacuum, most of that air is removed. The vacuum can then be realased forcing the chemicals deep into the piece. In order to remove the chemicals, you can then place the treated piece under vacuum again to help draw out excess chemicals before washing. This is basically how they pressure treat timber with wood preservatives.
You explained this so well that I feel smarter now, even though I know I’m not
yeah I thought the same, vacuum would help to make the chemicals penetrate fully, also help when drying too
This is the way
@@GlazeonthewickeR you're better than that!
i was about to comment that in a less well explained way... i like watching videos where mashmallows go brrrr under vaccum, yup
An hr long NileRed video? Best Halloween ever.
[insert blank comment here]
Yup😊
@@wagnerramosmidichannelabso514shut up NERD
It's not Halloween for me
Um technically it’s 59:37 ☝️🤓
Thanks NileRed, the video is very informative, and I can learn your persistence regardless of failures.
hong kong
"Taken months to find land that I could legally shoot at" Damn. That is a wild sentence to hear as an American lmao
He started this project almost 4 years ago! That's insane. People underestimate how long these chemistry videos take
It’s what makes me truly appreciate his videos when they come out because they are years of work just for internet strangers, but because he is passionate about his subject the videos are always amazing.
This was just barely a chemistry video honestly.
@@KakavashaForever this guy probably dont even know was dihydrogen monoxide is, and thinks NaCl is a dangerous chemical
@@KakavashaForever all in all you gotta appreciate the effort
@@dyvdwastakenYou don‘t need to go around telling people you have a small penis
Code Buullet doing literally anything besides being productive is hilarious to me, love the vibes of that man
Litterly no one asked about cb: never mind didnt watch the video fully sorry
does he show up at all i'm only 22 minutes in @@NbNgMOD
I am absolutely shocked Code Bullet was in this video lol, how TF did that even happen lol
40:17 there he is!
ok anyways shut up this is a public comment section@@NbNgMOD
So glad to see you got a mold machined. I did a very similar process while I was in grad school to make particleboard out of sisal fiber and waste carpet. The diagonal lines you were observing in your earlier attempts were likely shear delamination due to the wood slipping as it was compressed. And as others have pointed out, the Poisson effect causes materials to expand in one axis when compressed in another. It would be interesting to see the densities of the boards compared before vs. after using the stainless steel mold. And kudos for highlighting one of the most frustrating aspects of reference papers: not enough detail on their actual procedure that would let you repeat it yourself.
I love how Nile always says "carefully" then goes on to swing away with an axe.
Finally, we know what Code Bullet has been doing, shooting wood in the woods with Nilered.
This is somehow weirder the further it goes on
Now we know why he never uploads. He's just too busy helping Nigel test how hard his wood is.
Together with Emplemon and Barely sociable
Code Bullet, now with real bullets.
I am not familiar, but looking at their gaming channel, I presume this is a joke because their name has bullet in it. I will return if an actual gamer appears in the video to shoot the wood.
Nigel is kind of like the barn cat that only visits you a few times a year and makes you very happy every time
Absolutely underrated comment, imo.
What are you even trying to say
@@superstar5123he's kinda like that barn cat, ya know.
he got dat barn ket in him
Literally just saw the same comment under a wendigoon vid
Man. The dedication is both super impressive and appreciated. That is the most I've enjoyed a KZhead video in years. Cheers
the honesty in your narration made me stay and eventually subscribe, in case you wondered or no one else had given their reasons for subscribing. absolutely great content!
Nile really takes peer reviewing to a new level. 😂
Peer reviewing the shit one of those shitty srticles would focus on
peer rewewding
I'd have a few things to say to the team that wrote that paper, after spending weeks troubleshooting...
I'm happy you tested a control experiment with normal wood, it really puts the strength of dense wood into perspective
There was a wrong assumption from the beginning on (several times mentioned, like after 24:00 ): "Not hard enough", "Hardness", etc. This feature does NOT stop bullets. The ability to completely take up an IMPULSE force and to equalize it over a big area, in contrast does.
@@dieSpinnt correct me if I'm wrong: a very hard material could be brittle and be unable to stop a bullet, right?
@@dieSpinnt Webster definition of the word hard: "not easily penetrated : not easily yielding to pressure" I'd say hardness is a fine word to use here. Hard itself is a fairly vague word, and stuff that's hard on for example the Moh's scale might not be hard when judged by a different metric. Given the definition for the word hard says "Not easily penetrated" and he's testing to see if a bullet can penetrate it, I don't see any problem with using the word hard or hardness to describe the situation.
So according to Nile’s gun permit he’s 8’2 😂😂
He used the chemicals to make him taller
i like how his script always makes him sound like hes reading off a chemistry procedure paper this will be the most thorough explanation of opening a box you will hear in your life
he shouldve used walnut, and along the grain, rather against the grain
He has such a particular cadence to his speech; I feel like you could set your watch to his pauses and upward lilts
@@jupiter_adept his voice is so intriguing he made a video about it
@@karet2490what video?
@@siqi1790 I don't remember thr name
Let’s applaud the real chads here: the delivery guys who brought the heat press inside.
Jack Pallet, is hes name. True Chad, made of steel. For the friends he is Pallet Jack Lifter of half ton.
Had to have used a pallet jack
That was the first thing I thought when he received it.
@@MeltedMaskthere’s half ton ones? The pallet jacks we use are good to 5500lb
No way they didn’t use a jack
Was on the edge of my seat with this one! Amazing content, would love to see this revisited with improvements and cross testing (like how it performs against other commonly used ballistic stopping materials)
The Collab we never thought we wanted, but we needed.
Just casually inviting code bullet to shoot some condensed wood in a random forest is the most NileRed thing. The crossover none of us knew we needed.
I have not once cared about celebrity appearances in shows or anything, but the moment I saw Code Bullet on a Chemistry-based channel, I actually jumped out of my seat a bit.
The collab of Heroes we needed
Have you discovered safety third podcast yet?
Evan was the last person i expected to see on a nile red video ngl
Brings him to the forest like "wait I thought you were a shooting channel"
The Code Bullet collab was HIGHLY unexpected! Cool that you guys are friends
dumb shit coding and dumb shit chemistry. Now those are two things I never thought would become related.
what i love is taping the wood to the block and propping a stick behind it is so a Code Bullet idea
Hm I wouldn’t call it a collab, more like a cameo.
Code Bullet was on the Safety Third podcast which Nile is usually a host on. I can't remember if Nile was on that particular episode though, he hasn't been hosting as regularly recently.
Idk who this is, but he is very handsome, unlike the dude running this channel.
If you decide to revisit this, i think adding a layer of strong fabric or some foam between the wood layers might make it so that even 2 layers would be enough - my thinking is that something flexible/ soft absorbs the shock better than having 2 hard materials back to back
I love how you speak so matter-of-factly in your introductions, saying stuff like "before this, the idea of bulletproof wood had never crossed my mind, but when I heard about it, I decided that I had to make it." You pretty much read the article, got excited as hell, and decided you needed to make it, lol.
nile went from precise chemistry into alchemy into ballistic research and now he's going back to alchemy next
lol some months later nile would say so we are testing if my wooden bunker can a bomb
And then to construct an atomic bomb from apples
The fact that code bullet and Nilered are friends makes so much sense
he's also friends with Michael Reeves
Wouldn’t be surprised if he is freinds with vsause :/
Unfortunately, he's also friends with notorious child predator Carlos the Frog. 😒
He is friends with javrils too
@@Vector_vr.6 Or is he? 🤨
Dude, that was so f#@%ing cool. I'm so glad you didn't quit in the early stages
This is what cybertruck should’ve been made of
The only KZheadr who can make an hour feel like five minutes. Thank you Nigel for the awesome and engaging content.
Dang! I didn't even realize this was an hour-long video!
Same here.
yes when I keep skiping it XD
I thought it was only 20 minutes.
don't forget Primitive Technology
I love how in chemistry there seem to be so many moments where you proceed in the experiment based on "Color changed. Things happened. ONWARD"
I f-cked around, I found out, I'm recording it, and now let's kick it up a notch!
Just remember that stuff is in fact a technical chemistry term
@@EmiStar070 "Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down." - Adam Savage, Mythbusters
@@dominikbeitat4450 it's science if you record it!
well that's basically how it works colour changed so chemically something happened (probably)
It makes me so happy to know that I watched you and code bullet and you guys are friends😂
Do to having the most hated teacher in the school for the last 4 years, I have disliked science. This channel (and nile blue) have made me enjoy science again. This is awesome
I have no idea why but seeing security footage of nigel just running into a box on the floor over and over again can't make me stop laughing
It looked like he was hugging it at first 😂
And his friend just stood there, watching, waiting...
After the first test I was just mentally screaming "Use a form in the press!" And I am so glad you did.
Haha, I was screaming that before he even pressed the first piece.
me too!@@agent57
Same! Obviously the press is tilting dramatically I don’t see why he struggles to see that. Each crank of the handle shows clearly a tilt.
I really had hoped he was going to use a puck press to not allow it to spread out in any direction. Plus he could have easily used a hole saw after soaking the wood to make it perfectly fit the mold. If I were to do this experiment, I would have tested the impact strength of different thicknesses of the glue lam wood plus the strength if one of the layers had the grain pointing towards the bullet. Adding a table and graphs would have been borderline ready to publish his findings. But yeah, it looked like quite a tedious boiling and pressing process, so I can see why he is kinda done with it.
Also would make sense that if compressing the wood 5x makes it 5x stronger (denser), then why wouldn't 10x do the same just 10x stronger? There's probably an upperbound for how much lignin and hemicellulose can be removed, but just the fact that it could be compressed from 5x by 10% more, what we're seeing probably isn't that upperbound yet.
Superwood! Wow that is incredible. Just think of all the possibilities for construction alone. Seems pretty straightforward and could easily be scaled up with large industrial machinery. Best part, its a renewable resource, unlike iron, aluminum, and steal! I have high expectations for this "super wood"
Your experiments made me think you should try using several even thinner wood plates stacked with alternating fiber directions. Besides that you should find a forum where you could submit a factual report on your findings. Any serious contribution like yours to life saving methods should never just be forgotten. 😊
I can't believe this video was almost 1 hour long. It felt like 15-20 minutes. Never felt bored at any point.
I dunno... there was the 15 mins i was , like, 'put 2 at 90 degrees opposition!'...
@@peterobinson3678cool
@@peterobinson3678 the whole time i was pissed cuz he would let it boil overnight where the psi dropped to 0. Obviously that means water left gaps and there's more room to squish it...
@@lemonke8132pfp says it all
I saw the inside of the wood being dry from the start of the video. I do a lot of woodworking and have stabilized wood before which is kind of the same concept of what you were trying to do. You have to completely submerge the wood and pull a vacuum until it stops bubbling, then let it sit still submerged so the liquid can replace where the air came from in the wood.
Indeed. Probably he would have ended with a much stronger single piece of wood if he had applied vacuum.
Came to say that exact same thing. I would even go further and suggest to do a few cycles of vacuum to atmospheric pressure, or even higher pressure if possible. Considering that the timing of the reaction is important in order not to remove too much lignin, it is important to get the caustic soda and sulfites inside as fast as possible. Same thing for the rinsing afterwards.
I was going to leave this comment, with the caveat that pulling a vacuum on it will make the water boil, and having a solution of boiling sodium hydroxide under vacuum might be a little dangerous/impossible depending on the kind of vacuum pump.
What about pulling a vacuum through the end grain to draw the chemical bath through the wood continuously.
I was thinking thinner plates of wood.
Appreciate the subtle nod to Bobby Dukes Art.
I feel like a way to improve the cooking process would be to dry the wood before cooking it in chemicals, seems that the excess water that is being stored in the wood is not allowing the chemicals to be completely absorbed into the wood, preventing it from being 100% treated. I bet if it were dried out the chemicals would be able to make their way throughout the entire piece allowing it to dissolve the lignin and hemicellulose in the middle of the wood, allowing for the center to become much more dense and fused together during the pressing process, further improving strength. I would love to see more on this project in the future it was one of the more entertaining projects to watch you do!
It’s also worth noting that you shot the wood with a 9mm PCC witch has a significantly longer barrel than a handgun, meaning that it had a lot more energy than a handgun. You did better than you thought. 👍🏻
Yep, 9mm out of a 16" barrel gives the 9mm as much knock down power as a .357 mag. The longer barrel drastically increases the speed of the projectile
@@bradleysmith9431omg knock down power hahahaha. That fake term is still being thrown around? Is this 2005?
At first my brain couldn't wrap around the idea that a longer barrel would give the bullet more energy, since it's the same amount of energy being put into the bullet. But then I realized a longer barrel means more time for the propellant gases to expand and impart their kinetic energy to the bullet.
@@DashsChannel Exaxtly right, and that’s the appeal of PCCs. It allows you to get a full powder burn and utilize all that the round have to offer.
@@joshl90haha lol, everybody is ignoring you 🤣
It’s so surreal that this guy and code bullet are friends… completely different energy
CODE BULLET!?
WHAT
Like… Code Bullet is a chaotic Australian and Nile is textbook stereotypical polite Canadian… how did that happen?? I need to know all the details of how they met and became friends because that sounds like an awesome story
They aren't "friends" it's a Collab
@shakes.816 how is it a collab if code bullet provided almost nothing for the whole video
Thanks for doing the comparison against normal wood at the very end.
I am on a road trip and your vids are the only thing keeping me entertained😊
I love the Bobby Duke Arts wewd shirt. It makes me happy to see creators support each other! These videos never fail to amaze me
I just want to thank you for not cutting the failed experiments, all of them are genuinely interesting to watch
Yeah seeing all the steps and reasoning after each successful or unsuccessful experiment is the best part
frfr
Failure and trying something else is a big part of science.
its a hook to keep you watching
You used a 9x19 carbine. The longer barrel will allow the bullet more velocity than a pistol, so the wood stopping it was even more impressive seeing as most armor ratings for 9x19 is based on hand-gun velocities.
exactly i was thinking that so even tho the first time he used a gun it blowed the back it actually didnt do so bad because its not a hand gun or a small gun
I think he should try 5x thinner layers and go 10x layers and laminate them similar to Kevlar.
I was going to say the same thing! So he stopped a 9mm at what is basically the maximum energy (or penetrating power if you prefer) that you can expect out of the caliber. Very impressive!
you'd think it would but longer doesnt always mean better.. in fact the 9x39 mm optimal barrel length is around 7 1/2 in. anything more you start to lose velocity to friction on the barrel rifling due to the gunpowder being used up prior to bullet leaving barrel
Yeah I was gonna mention that. I was really surprised.
What helped its the waves (circles parts) are straight paralel to the ground, not tilted
Exceptional dedication and persistance. Congratulations!
As a woodworker, this is incredibly fascinating.
The first thing I thought is I totally want to turn a cheap 2x4 into a fingerboard for a guitar. What's really interesting is the potential to mold the wood as it's formed. You could potentially compress scrap wood into 'hardwood' into a specific contour or add other features at the same time. Hell, I'm curious how it'd look if you just stuck a quarter under the wood in the press.
hmm, same, though of turning it into a pickaxe or something, would be kinda cool
Try it with Hemp. Henry Ford built a Hemp Composite bodied model-A and demonstrated its durability by shooting it with a .30 cal machine gun. After which, he walked up, wiped the powder burn and fragments off, and proclaimed, "See folks! Not a Dent! And hardly a Scratch!" But then Stanley steel, Standard oil, and Hurst timber, made sure ol Henry, "got with the program."...
#HempCrete #HempCeramics
I wonder what ol Henry's recipe was.
After 12 years of school, I didn't think it would be possible for me to sit through an hour of chemistry without zoning out. I stand corrected.
Most academic things become fun and interesting once you're out of compulsory education. I was finishing up my masters (physics) around the same time when discovering that history, get this, is captivating as hell and twice as metal if not told by a pompous old bag that regurgitates dates. Now I'm 35 and if I could, I'd drop the job and transcend from weekend hobby into full-blown classics study in a heartbeat.
@@dylutant Yup history is pretty fucking brutal and i hate my teachers for not showing me that
@@dylutant Hard agree. I hated lots of subjects back in school, but I love learning about topics related to them now. I think that the worst problem is that most of education focuses on memorization and not actual learning and building critical thinking skills. I understand that some basic knowledge is required, but what the education system tried (and is still trying, university isn't much better) to force into our brains is superfluous, and a waste of time and energy that could be spent on building actual skills.
@@MaskedDeath_ cos the primary point of the education system rn is to churn out workers, actual education comes second
Thank you for the PSA that this is nearly an hour long lol
This is my first time watching your video and was very surprised seeing code bullet
Seeing Nile trying to move a box and completely demolishing it is the most Chaotic yet most Nile Red thing ever seen
My favorite thing about your channel is that you show and discuss your failures. I think a lot of our society is geared towards avoiding failure or even mention of it, and that's a shame. Failure is an extremely important part of science, and life as a whole. Often, an important part of finding out what works involves finding out what doesn't work. You can't learn from your mistakes if you don't think about them and try to improve your process, and from a viewer's perspective, it makes it much more satisfying to see you succeed when we see how many times you tried things that didn't work like you expected. I appreciate that.
Sorry but i aint. Reading. Allat.
@@Noober_kingYimzzz
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@@Noober_kingdon't worry your low attention span is just what you should work on. You got this babe
Well said
I'm really surprised that Nile didn't use a vacuum chamber to help saturate the wood with the chemicals. I think that if the entire block was saturated, it would help with the layers bonding and causing less splitting when shot.
When he cut the wood and it was dry in the middle...this was my thought. A vacuum chamber would make this process far more reliable.
Either that or pressure cook it
I saw this process being used to pickle cucumbers within like a minute
My thought exactly. Like the pickle from Action Lab
So fun coming to write a comment and finding exactly the same already here and even citing the exact same pickle video I was thinking off when he cut the side 😛
I would recommend vacuuming the wood with the chemical compound so that the wood lets air out and allows more liquid to enter deeper.
@NileRed I was screaming at my screen for the first half of this video, saying the following, "Use something to stop the wood from just expanding out the sides". I'm so happy that you finally did that. I kept face palming every time you put the wood in the press. This is a perfect example of how it's useful to have more than one person look at a problem/issue - the more people, the higher the chance of someone spotting something that could be better, or done differently to give better results. No disrespect meant by my comment. We all miss things that others may spot/pick up quicker.
I was doing the exact same thing, basically he needs a male and female set if dies
So here's the thing. This is something you will see with weaves like carbon fiber or kevlar where a single layer will splinter, a double perpendicular will hold. You could significantly improve this by using thinner pieces and just stacking a bunch of them together because the impact has to keep changing direction instead of just cleaving through lines that line up behind it. So if you ever want to revisit this project, take a bunch of thin boards (the thinner the better, like you can break it by looking at it wrong thin), treat them all, stack them in your press going horizontal, vertical, horizontal, vertical, squish them all together, cook them, and try shooting it. Squish them all together to basically make them stick together on force alone. L3 plates are like 1.5 inch thick which is basically what you should be aiming for as the higher bound on thickness, and who knows, maybe it'll work. Another thing you should do with the bigger blocks you've treated is to take a hammer and chisel and break one of them apart before crush/cook (or you can shoot it with your pellet gun to make a hole down) and see if it's actually wet inside, there's a lot of different non-water liquids that can still stay behind in wood and judging from the dark color you might've been pushing out resin especially in pine that's known for holding a lot of it and crackling in fire because of it. If that's the case you didn't really have treated wood, you just had a weird hotpocket of treated wood with filling of compressed wood.
hotpocket of treated wood Man you got ways of putting it. I agree with your suggestions though. This is really interesting to me and I would love a revisit.
Underrated comment, honestly best advice I’ve ever seen in a KZhead comment
This shit would work. It’s straight up what he’s doing but using the logic of grapheme and Kevlar as your discussed. The layers splintering and dispersing the weight evenly. W comment
I think the problem is he's not heating/cooking it while compressing it.
Perhaps taking several of these panels made as you described, and stacking them with an elastic contact cement. Spread the energy out further with the same principal as ballistic glass
i swear these videos have better plot twists and story arcs than 96% of TV shows
thats cause unlike tv these stories are real and unpredictable lol
also nile the goat
@@SaffronTheBat yes
,,It went right through."
Bro, for real!
honestly I feel like if you started with thinner pieces to begin with and made super thin hardened plates you could laminate them like plywood. that mixed with the kevlar layers that surround plates in modern body armor would probably go crazy
Really glad to see the null hypothesis at the end
The biggest shock here was that he knows Code Bullet. Absolutely not the crossover I expected!
My jaw genuinely dropped when I heard that.
They were both at that big event that William Osman organized, so they probably met there if they didn't already know each other
And his face
@@antonliakhovitch8306 Yeah that's a good point. KZheadrs meet each other both just through discords, mutual friends, etc. but also through events like that.
no doubt ..... code bullet is legend
Forgetting the amazing bulletproof aspect, imagine a floor made of tiles of this wood, it looks downright manageable and beautiful.
But cutting it would be hard on blades.
Yeah! Might not stain
Scratchproof hardwood, in literally any shape… holy shit.
@@MegaBrokenstar Hexagons, hexagons are the best-agons,
@@NoahSteckleyyou could pre-stain the wood before densifying it, or stain it during the chemical treatment which would likely result in a perfectly full-depth stain. Alternatively, the results of processing are already pretty beautiful and highlight the grain nicely. I’m actually kind of excited about this material as hardwood flooring and especially as trim and shoe moulding. Not to mention tabletop, workshop, and kitchen applications. Imagine an entire dining room table that is usable as a cutting board without the slightest trace of damage. The idea of a relatively cheap to manufacture scratchproof and dentproof wood product is tantalizing.
You put a lot of effort into this. Very interesting. Thanks.
I work with a lot of wood. That four dimensional press was the idea. Also, the grain structure matters alot. You should try this with Ash or White Oak.
Huge thanks to nile for showing us his very hard wood ❤
HELPPP
Ong he's so generous
Lmfao 😂😂 I couldn't help think this the whole video tehehe
that's what she said
let him cook
Wow. A CodeBullet cameo. That's oddly kind of awesome. I love seeing all the youtubers I like combine in weird ways.
I was thinking the same thing. The collab we never thought of but appreciate.
yeah when i saw CodeBullet i was like "holy fucking shit"
the tungsten cube is my favorite reoccurring character
The orientation of the grain in the wood is impacting when you press it. The more parallel the grain the better chance of it not cracking or rolling over its self. Also on last test shooting untreated wood only you didn't use the glue. would have liked to see the difference with and with out glue. Great job on the video. Extremely entertaining!
Nile's gun licence really reminded me how young he is. He's been making these fun science videos since he was like 15, and now he has an entire lab at just 24! That's so wild to me.
Is he really 2,49 meters tall? Like wth i never saw a person with that height im surprised.
bro that entire ID is a joke did you see that height bro its 98 inches😭😭 im pretty sure hes like 31 or 32 by now
He's Canadian. He doesn't have a gun license, he has a projectile device permit
No he’s like 31. In the safety third podcast he states he got his drivers license like 15-16 years ago so he’d have to be in his thirties. Also, there’s never been a person who’s 8 feet tall LOL
@@baguette4607Tallest man in history was 8 foot 11
This is not the crossover I was expecting. Never in my life did I imagine I'd see Code Bullet helping someone with questionable science. XD
more of a cameo
and niel filming with a "wewd" shirt.
My exact thoughts on the matter 😂
And he showed up when there was bullets and never appeared again
@@Scurvyy lol
I'm pretty sure Haida canoe makers used to do this exact process. Treat (I think they used lye), soak, warm, then pound. If I recall it takes weeks to make one.
Me and my dad both have the same exact gun. Beautiful choice :) you are an informed consumer in all aspects, including firearms and I respect that.
I was 100% sure the dry middle part was going to be foreshadowing for some critical issue that would fix everything but it just, didnt get mentioned at all 😭
yeah, I actually wonder if it was a big thing though. Makes me wonder if the wood in the study was well seasoned and dry first. IM gonna do a google search on getting stain to penetrate all the way through wood. Also were the depth dimensions he used the same as the study? because that could change everything, because even if the outer shell is fully treated, he's then potentionally mixing that outer shell with the untreated inner shell, and that could throw off the whole chemical fusion aspect. the water is assumedly the only thing in the treated part by the time he was pressing, so it's not transfering over the first solution he used while pressing even. I wonder what would happen if he cut it into thin strips adding up to the same depth of starting wood, and then pressed them like that. One time with all the grain going the same direction, and one version with them criss crossed(even though that's not what was cited in the study, we might get some data from that)
I absolutely think it played a good part kinda a weird oversight
I wonder if drilling very small holes through could help disperse the liquid through the whole block. I imagine it would affect the structural integrity of the final product but it would be worth a shot if the idea is revisited someday.
@@Preston241 It might not, considering the fusing process it is supposed to later go through when compressed/heated. You might be on to something!. Space the hooles a little less than the distance he observed it soaking through when he cut it? i think you're on to something worth trying.
I also thought about the pressing process eventually permeating deeper into the wood, however, since the wood was washed several times and soaked, the solution would not remove the lignin and hemicellulose deeper in the wood. I think a reasonable solution would be to pressure treat the wood, instead of soaking it. Or prior to that, attempt soaking it for much longer. Or perhaps soaking/pressing multiple thinner layers, gluing them together with the grains reversed until a net desired thickness is achieved, and then try shooting it! I would also say that since wood glue is designed for wood and not designed for densified wood, I would also experiment with different types of glue if issues continued to persist
A few other notes. Backface defirmation like you saw in the 2 ply piece, is acceptable for most body armor. Theory being I'd rather have a few broken ribs, than a permenant wound channel in my liver. You also were firing these rounds out if long barrelled rifles, which would have actually increased the velocity. Better testing would have involved a chronograph, and properly measured distances, as well as bullet weight, etc. I doubt this would have stopped an intermediate cartridge like a .223, but for what you had, I think a 2 ply version would probably rate at NIJ lvl III or IIIA, pretty good job man!
bro code bullet is one of my favorite creaters
The idea that Code Bullet and NileRed are close enough friends in real life to just do shit like this together just blew my mind. Two completely different (but amazing) channels lol
Well, CB is friends with the safety third group, which he is part of so it makes sense.
IKRR, blew my mid when I saw him!
@@youtubeSuckssNowSafety 3rd? AvE must be the president. Lol. But seriously I've never heard of the group before.
@@robertabugelis3962 search it, its a podcast started by William Osman, The Backyard Scientist, Allen Pan and Nile Red. They are good friends with CB, Explosions and Fire, IDAT and so many other creators. They are the group that hosted Open Sauce a couple months back.
Ayyy it's CB 😂
Nile is the only Creator on KZhead where I can watch a 1h Video without skipping a single second. Props to the hard work and dedication
no seriously homies videos are engaging all the way through. it takes a special kind of talent to make videos consistently captivating through the entire runtime and he’s absolutely got that down
I deadass watched the whole video without even noticing that it was an hour long💀😆
I think this also says a lot about how people's attention span has been absolutely destroyed by modern social media.
Throw it on 2x.
This absolutely needs to be awarded the proper attention, I love this style of video if it's pulled off well
would recommend putting it in the first step where you leave it in the chemical put it in vacuum chamber so all air from inside the wood goes out and then slowly add air back so the wood under chemicals solution goes to the wood more and wait maybe repeat vacuum few times and then do the rest like you did
If you ever want to do this again, try impregnating the wood with resin after the final wash before you crush it, and glue the layers together under the extreme pressure, and alternate the grain diagonally rather than 90 degrees each time. Could also add a layer of fiberglass between the wood layers.
The fact that NileRed's real name is NileRed and making wood-based armor using a pressing/heating machine while having an armed license from Canada with the height of a transport container (2.5meter) was a great achievement in a year.
on the license his first name was Neil
It also says that he has sepia coloured eyes and hes 2.49 metres tall. Probably a joke
His real name is Nigel, it's just a fake name on the license 😮
@@proxyhx2075 lol
The fact that Nigel knows Code Bullet is so unexpected, but also completely makes sense.
I was confused, as he lives here down under doesn’t he?
@@ZephyrysBaum yes but he went to america to go to open sauce
@@kiwigaming09 Makes sense, I was going to say that that's probably how they know each other, but it didn't occur to me that that's how they met. Also why is everything in _italics?_
Pretty random man, I was not expecting Code Bullet to just randomly be in his video lol. Programming and Chemistry? I guess their upload schedule is similar lol
I like the idea of revisiting 1)Under a vacuum. 2)add resin a bath 3)add a resin multi layer welding blanket layer as a backer.
Nile, have you looked into how they industrially pressure treat wood? Pieces are placed in a giant vacuum chamber and heated to reduce moisture content and then placed in a pressurized chamber filled with the liquid chemicals they want to force into the wood pores, also at temperature. I think if you added some vacuum drying (to encourage the wood to soak more liquid) and pressurized chemical cleaning you would get the chemicals to penetrate considerably deeper into the wood grain.
I feel like that would be out of his budget.
@@derpmaster2732 yeah but i think thats how the paper made the test
@@derpmaster2732 eh, you can make a vacuum chamber for relatively cheap and adding a hot plate shouldn't be the hardest addition. For the small sizes he's working with it shouldn't be super difficult or expensive
@@LavaDonutsI am looking for some plans for a relatively cheap vacuum chamber, got any hot tips? Thanks.
For the initial step you could use a similar setup woodworkers use to stabilize wood. Pull a vaccum with the piece of wood in the solution, the vacuum will pull all of the air out and the solution in. Not expensive at all.
Love that when Nile was talking about setting up the grain of the two pieces of wood perpendicular to each other, I was nodding along because that's what we do in sewing when we want to make sure a flat-lined piece of fabric is as strong as possible. Scrolling to the comments to see people in other industries chiming in about the same thing being useful in other types of construction and armor is delightful!
Yup. Thats how plywood works and why it's stronger than the same cut of homogeneous wood. Also when stacking pallets or loading trucks you use the same or principle to make the load far more stable. One of those simple but incredibly useful buts of knowledge. I didn't realize it applied to sewing, so you taught me something today. Thanks!
I also didn't know it applied to sewing, but epoxy/fiberglass bullet proof armor is made the same way, also, carbon fiber bikes which is just epoxied carbon fiber, applies the same principles tactically, depending on the stress points.(continuous fibers are strongly circumstantially)
this idea is used in many different things, like plywood for structural strength, or kevlar for strengthening actual bulletproof armor another fun fact, kevlar is actually a fabric and is easily cut by scissors
I love NileRed videos And I very much appreciate he only very briefly mentions his sponsors at the very start abs then gives a full showing at the end after all the actual content of the video is finished I appreciate that What I don’t appreciate is the unskippabke ads ranging from 15 to 45 seconds long 😢 those suck ass
Fun fact: Shields used by the Roman Legion also used 3 layers of wood, with each layer being at 90 degrees (in regards to grain pattern.) However, they would use different types of wood, depending on which layer it was.
A summary of all NileRed videos: "It turned out to be way more work than I thought."
But that's what makes them good., I guess. Imagine he'd do it in 5 mins ).
My thought exactly. "It seemed relatively simple" to "It turned out to be way more work than I thought."
Only after "it seemed surprisingly simple" at some early point in the video 😎
"i was honestly really nervous"
Rule of thumb: Guess your time + 33%.
It's actually impressive how easily that 22lr went through the first compressed wood. It's almost like you made it less bulletproof.
I see what you mean lol mybbad
he made it harder but it was so thin it just made it brittle what you want isnt hardness but tensile strenght. youd probably get an even better result by somehow infusing that pressed wood with some resin or other polymer
Long grain is one of the weakest sides
Now shoot some high carbon steel to see the victor! But seriously, good job. Very interesting video.
@@georgenichols1638 shut your mouth
For the chemicals to soak all the way through, maybe dry the wood beforehand so the internal moisture is as low as possible. Additionally maybe use a pressure cooker, I'm not sure what pressure industrial pressure treated (PT) woods use, but it could help.
This is probably the best video I've ever seen.
You were correct that your solution was not saturating the center of the wood. You can use a vacuum to get it to penitrate fully.put your whole soaking set up in a vacuum and hold vacuum for the same length of time it takes to remove all air from the wood
Won't that make the vacuum solution boil off?
@@NorthBus you can always pull a light vacuum so the pressure drops to encourage air out of the wood, while also being higher than the boiling point of the solution.
I was thinking the cooking stage in a pressure cooker would help with penetration, maybe soaking in a vacuum then cooking in a pressure cooker.
This wood is FUCKING RAW
Use pressure to drive the solution into the wood?
If the inside of the wood is still dry, maybe you should try using a vacuum to suck all of the air out of the wood while it is submerged in the chemicals so that when the vacuum is released, the holes from the air are filled with the solution. This process is often used to stabilize wood by filling it with a resin which hardens with heat.
I had the same idea
I used to work in a treatment facility for power poles and this is exactly how our process was. The wood would first be placed into a tank under vacuum to remove moisture, drained, then the tank would be filled with chemical and pressurized to force the chemical deep into the wood.
Exactly this!!! The pressure pot is commonly used by knifemakers to make much harder knife scales (the wood handles) by drawing the air out of the tubes in the middle of the wood allowing it to be replaced with the hardening liquid. This experiment also needs to be much more scientific with a non-soaked, non-crushed original, a crushed, non-soaked control, and maybe a second option like epoxy used on pre-densified but untreated wood and also on un-crushed wood before crushing - this probably wouldn't work as well, but that's what experiments are for!
That would require a much more complicated setup. Pulling a vacuum on a heated, frothing, caustic liquid would surely make a big mess and kill your pump rather quickly.
Was looking for a comment like this. Totally agreed. Wood would not just soak in chemicals. @@Glenn_Rainwater