I Think I'm Done With Land Rover (One Year Owner Review)
2024 ж. 3 Ақп.
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Today I talk about my one year ownership experience with my Land Rover Defender!
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Title is misleading. So the only reason you're "done" with it because your wife said so?
sure is. click bait at its finest.
haha true
Yea waste of time
very strange man Ben Hardy is, agree
Click bait king
When something major breaks on any vehicle that only has 150 miles on it, the customer service BETTER be over the top, whoever the dealer is.
The price will definitely be over the top
@@luisvilla799 service better than the jeep service dept for $110k premium jeep grand wagoneer
@@youtubecarspottersguide1doubt it all owned by same crooks lol no seriously it’s only a few large corporations best suv are GM and Toyota this is overall Toyota being the better of the 2 I’m pretty sure I’m missing a honorable mention somewhere
Thats the problem. He got a lemon. Its not normal for a land rover to have problems that early, so if you do that means you got a lemon. And you should run right back to the dealer
Your better off buying the new 2024 Lexus Gx in an offroad trim because it's a Toyota product; it's practically the land cruiser that's bin redesigned.
The Land Rover is always the best looking vehicle in the shop.
😄
THE LR tech can afford to retire 20yrs before the owners!
with that huge roof rack, you can climb on enjoy the sun while waiting for the tow truck to come
That's what it does best!
They sell land rovers at shops?
I don't think Land Rover, as a brand, has ever been proven to be reliable...
Landrover's reliability ended decades ago and it's been a running joke as pretty much the worst brand ever since. Buying a modern Landrover is like trying to beat a casino at slotmachines- the odds aren't there. It's a shame, because they have some beautiful designs.
To me its a status symbol but I like my money lol
The vehicles are fantastic , it’s a shame they can’t make them reliable and easy to repair .
The landriver defender 110 from the 90s and early 2thoudands are the real defender s these new defender s are not built like the older ones and cannot take an extreme off road beating like the older models that were built for extreme hostile conditions. This is why the older defender s still hold their value and are super expensive to maintain wich is why alot of guys switched to Toyota land cruiser or other off road brands.
Yip. They're rubbish
I m sure your wife absolutely needed an offroader with a snorkel and a roof rack to navigate through the jungle to get your kids from school 😵💫
It’s like having a pair of shoes. You like the guy that sold you the shoes, you like the guy that polishes the shoes when they get scuffed up but in the end the shoes hurt your feet. It boils down to how long you can stand the discomfort.
Great analogy!!!
Something similar happened to me with Hyundai. The sales person was great and actually became a friend, but the Tucson we bought was a lemon so we had to part ways with it, but the purchasing process was great.
you forgot to mention that those pair of shoes costed 90k new and now they are only worth 60k after 1 year.
most people who complain never owned a Land Rover
In my case , I’ve owned 4.@@pressmandestiny
Owned 4 Land Rover products over the years (Range Rover, Disco, Defender, and Range Rover Sport), not one problem. Owned multiple Mercedes that had multiple issues. Owned a Toyota that blew a head gasket. I guess some of it comes down to luck of the draw. Best to own anything new today with a warranty (more tech comes with many more potential issues).
Exactly!
Try getting work done under warrenty! Best to buy older, simpler, proven vehicles
Toyotas are still so much better then land rover sheit.
I don't know newer cars but I own a 2002 Toyota and a 2007 Land Rover. Most Land Rovers actually have very reliable engine and drivetrain etc. But there's no comparison on the little things. Basically everything plastic in the LR has been mended or replaced. The design is often comically bad.
may I ask which toyota blew the head gasket? Was it Tundra.... at 200k miles? I have not heard of such issue on toyota/lexus trucks/body-on-frame SUVs with a mileage below 150k unless they were extremely abused and lacked proper maintenance.
My wife’s supercharged Range Rover Sport has been rock solid. Zero issues from new to 80k miles. While i do sympathize with the OP, i bet 95% of the people complaining online about reliability have probably never owned them. If reliability was as bad as everyone claims - LR would have been out of business a long time ago.
Idiots lease them, try driving a landrover product for 10 years or better yet 500,000 miles. Toyota.
Not true. My LR4 has been trash. But I like the look of it and deal with issues as they come. The least reliable car I’ve owned. But it was cheaper than a Tacoma and still offered off road ruggedness. It does perform the best off road out of all my cars though. I follow a LandRover forum on Facebook and 90% of the posts are, “this broke how can I fix it.” I still have mine tho 🤷🏻♂️
Status symbol? Maybe they just buy what they like and they can afford it? When people have no money, they should buy what's reliable and try to be happy. @@Wontreplyeverdontbother
My sentiments! The company would have been crashed. I love landrover!
You must me one of the rare owners then without issues. I had several LR incl the original Defender and yes lots of problems. People without issues are rare.
I’m selling my 2020 LR defender. In the last 6 months it’s been in the shop 3 times. Several days for each repair. Gorgeous vehicle but painful to own. Can’t wait for something else more reliable. The steering failure is downright dangerous. Another time we had a full engine shutdown that left us stranded on the side of a highway at night. Could you imagine if this happened deep in the back country.
Get the new lexus gx550
The steering is a three min fix 😂
Get a prado
@@Joe-kx7blthen keep fixing it every day too dumbbass. Nobody got time for that shit.
That is shocking
"Happy wife - happy life" is one of the phrases both my wife and I _HATE_ the most! Such an antiquated viewpoint that needs to evolve. We always say: _"Happy couple sees no trouble."_ This is the way forward ladies and gentlemen. Stay classy my friends.
Somebody should tell that to women.
@@Holden-McGroin Oh they know but they refuse to acknowledge. Apparently, only the woman in the relationship is allowed to be happy these days. What a sad and misguided time we currently inhabit. _"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."_ *~George Orwell* Stay classy my friend.
@@BertShackleford We do know! The problem is that other women want to put us down and shut us up for speaking the truth. They like being the dictator in the relationship. I truly feel bad for those men stuck in that type of marriage. You deserve better treatment gentlemen.
Funny thing is that statement is a comedic jest that few of the most sappy suckers see as an actual viewpoint. Your happy couple cliche is just as sad. Stay in the box my moron! 🙄
Thank you for saying this. BTW, aren't all kittens/cats crepuscular? @@crepuscularkitten4911
It’s still is status symbol based on looks alone. Rich don’t mind taking it to the dealer and driving their second car while it’s being fixed.
24k miles on my 2023 Defender 110. ZERO issues. Love it. I drive it like I stole it.
Did your 21,000 mile service cost $2000? I saw another owner’s post that said it cost that much….just asking.
@@brooklyn4life880mine was $1700 Houston, TX area
Mark my words. You wont make it to 100k miles without a major repair that will cost you at least $3500
I'm 3 months away from 3 years of owning mine. It has been great. Love it.
How is it I’m trying it buy a new one right now and was wondering if I’d get the same experience as my current 2023 Escalade since that car is amazing.
Love it. Zero complaints. @@avxlit
@@VWkid4life how many miles do you have? Any issues with ownership?
just did the 20,000 service. No problems. Love it. I have a 90 with the 4 cylinder@@ryanjcoon1
Power steering went out at 150 miles!?!?!?!?!?! Land Rover are really outdoing themselves these days, ROFL!!!!!
Yeah I would have forced the dealer to buy it back under lemon law if there’s one in state purchased.
Sorry that the Defender didn't work out. Good luck on getting a new vehicle (please post more videos of the car search.... love seeing the struggle involved in finding a new vehicle).
This is why I am hanging on to my 2021 4Runner TRD Pro until one of us dies. No one will ever convince me that these smaller, high-boost turbocharged engines are going to be as reliable as naturally-aspirated engines from quality manufacturers.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 welcome to the club 🎉 🎈I couldn’t wait to get rid of my Range Rover Evoque. It was the Best car I ever owned, under warranty. It was the worst car I ever owned, out of warranty. Although if I had money to burn then I’m definitely buying a Defender 130 X 🚙🚗
As a car reviewer I’m shocked you even bought a Land Rover.
My LR3 was quirky but 100% reliable. My 2012 LR4 was amazing and 100% reliable. My 2021 Defender 110 is perfect and has 50,000 miles on it and has been 100% reliable.
I think it is the worst excuse to sell. Those are small things and was sorted out. All other negative comments here are just people who never owned a LR. As a family we have driven LR since 1993. So far 25 to date and counting including first edition 110 D240 no issues and still going. I myself drive a 110 D300 HSE and are just as happy as can be. But still selling the best version LR because of two small mechanical issues that was sorted and you having just the best service from LR is honestly is not a reason to let it go. They really do go above and beyond for the product and customers. Happy LR owner from South Africa
Slightly misleading title. It sounds like you had one problem, but you couldn’t be happier with the vehicle
In my opinion, the trade-in value alone makes keeping it for at least another year or two the best option financially, assuming you can afford it in the first place. Besides, once everything is fixed under warranty, it might be pretty reliable, and if it isn't, you can still trade it later.
I have a Jaguar and the warranty/service side has been amazing. People don't realize how generous they are, and that the warranty period also covers routine maintenance. Regular service is covered, and it's not a lease. My F-Pace has only had a couple little quirks (low coolant warning and a sporadic check engine light) that the dealer addressed and explained immediately. QC seems the be JLR's weakest link but they still blow all the US manufacturers away in every aspect, especially when you consider companies like GM and Ford seem to think Explorer's and Tahoe's warrant the same price point as Range Rover's.
Your videos are very entertaining and informative. Appreciate your channel. Consumer perception has inertia and is always a lagging indicator of the actual state of affairs. So no surprise that JLR may generally be more reliable than common opinion would have it, and Toyota less so.
Wife: "I've fallen out of love with my ticking time bomb of a vehicle."
😂😂😂
I will always be a fan of Land Rover brand for it's designed capabilities and comforts. I'd like to drive one.Unfortunately I cannot afford a new one :( I'm looking around for a used Defender but I fear it might put me in a financial hole when something breaks out once warranty is out
It seems it's a known issue of the Defender losing power steering in certain circumstances. Do they have a fix for this? I've seen people on their forum who bought a Defender 3-4 years ago had this same issue.
Long story short, its great when it’s not broken.
I've had four Toyotas, Prado 120, Prado 150 (company car), 79 series (still own) and a 200 Sahara TTV8 diesel (still own). 600k between them and not one break down. All of them lived in the Pilbara and did hard work. I'll give you the tip - no JLR product will last the way these did (have). BTW I also owned a Discovery but after two engine rebuilds to reach 280k I kicked the habit of these POS.
I worked at a Land Rover dealer. The amount of catastrophic failures we saw in low mileage and well care for vehicles was shocking. At 60k their suspensions are wasted, electrical failures, coolant leaks. We rarely saw one exceed 150k miles even with every bit of maintenance done. What was hilarious was how many came off the trailer brand new with major problems. That’s what happens when you buy a British built India owned vehicle.
Bro you cannot defend this brand when you have power steering going out at 150 miles, imagine the issues this car will have at 150k miles, if it makes it there
30k in a year...nuts...thank you for your service by ordering new
A brand where brake calipers often cost $2,000. each, textured plastic fascia trim $900. a piece, dealer labor rates of $250./hr or more and the list goes on. While interiors are often beautifully trimmed and styling is nice, let the blue bloods and glitterati keep their favorite SUV.
Yep, definitely not for the poor 🙄
Well, perhaps there is a connection between the incredible buying experience and the future breakdown as in they know it's coming because they know there are serious quality issues still plaguing the brand... I had recently looked at Range Rover and in conversation with a saleswoman, she had strongly recommended I lease and not purchase. She will remain nameless, god bless her, she actually cared about her customers.
Defender is a very cool looking SUV. But having issues makes a person wonder if. I had issues with a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe Ultimate that I got new, loved that thing, V-6 was fast.. but I could not trust it anymore so I traded it in in 2017 for a Subaru Forester XT that I kept for 6 years with 37k miles and had no issues, traded it in for a 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4X in June 2023. I love this truck.
Current defender owner. Had for 3yrs - love it. Before that disco 4 for 4 yrs - loved it Before that RR hybrid for 3yrs - loved it. Over those years, minor issues. People love this LR fear porn. If you get a dud you get a dud. Ive had a recently terrible experience with a Tesla (wont own one again)
Is that case on the right side block your view? Too much to change for LHD?
I'm surprised that it made it to 10k miles without problems.
'Pangea' green.... very aptly named for a Land Rover. Pangea was the super-continent that fell apart and broke into pieces.
whats its worth now half of what you paid for it
Haha so dramatic. The overwhelming majority of new Defender owners are more than happy with their rigs, but a video about that wouldn't get nearly the views. I'm on my second new Defender and it's by far the best vehicle I've ever owned.
30k dollar depreciation for 10k miles? That is 3 dollar per mile just for loss of value!! Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick with Toyota.
Keep a ten mil wrench in the glovebox. When power steering goes out open cover under passenger seat and disconnect the battery for ten seconds. Steering fixed.
Thanks for the review. For a car at that price to break down is not acceptable. The dealership should provide a 1st class experience, they should have breakfast and tea waiting. I buy cars that are lower end and had fewer problems in year 1.
Dude, why are you apologizing sooo much for a flawed product 🤔 (it's coming across like that😢). Those of us who've owned these things we just send out warnings ⚠️ to friends. Do you want to look glamorous stranded on the road with your SUV buy a LRover/Jaguars product. OR do you want a tried , trusted and tested product. Buy a LEXUS or maybe a Benz😊
The new defender was tested for 1.2 million miles during the testing phase. I think JLR have worked on their reliability record.
I had a 2006 Range Rover HSE which I bought certified preowned in 2007 and ran until 2018. Put 135,000 miles on it and the only issue I ever really had was the compressor for the air suspension crapped out on me once in 2016. The repair bill for that was $1,600 at the time. Honestly would have gotten a Defender as a replacement if I wasn't so enamored by the Bronco when it was announced and which I have been enjoying greatly since I picked mine up in 2021 (Non Sasquatch Outer Banks 4DR with the 2.3L Ecoboost)
The cost of maintenance not covered by warranty is insane
another great review and yep, gotta keep the "boss" happy! My wife was the same with our Aviator. After the transmission went out on the fwy at 10k miles she was done. Fair or not. Can't blame the ladies for being afraid of getting stranded out in the jungle..:)
I’m torn between the Defender and the Lexus GX. Would like to try the Defender but reviews of my local dealer is not good for service. But I get it. Sometimes just luck of draw. Had a Tesla S with no real issues. Had problems with Audi, Porsche, bmw, Mercedes.
Did the explorer pack cause alot of wind noise?
I've watched your videos and still decided to order one. My build should be here in May. I'm currently driving a 2020 Lexus 460 GX. I love the car, but the infotainment system is very outdated. I chose Defender 110 over the new GX. Because my dealer told me I was 480 on the waiting list, meaning it would be 2025 before I received my truck.
I have just over 44k miles on my 2020 110 and have taken it across the country through forests and deserts. Only issue I've had was the coolant reservoir had to be replaced due to a defect. Just did my routine maintenance and asked my service agent about mechanical issues they've seen with other 110s. There's another 110 in my area with 140k+ miles and they tell me they've only had to change out the headlights. All that to say, hope you enjoy your new Defender! Don't let the negative Land Rover reliability hype train get to you.
@YoungNChannel Thanks.... Even though every vehicle is different, this was good information.
Hope you enjoy spending lots of time at the service shop.
@tspidey007 The funny thing is I've interacted with several owners who say they haven't had any problems. The new GX is going to the Tundra engine, which has had plenty of problems. Who knows how their vehicle is going perform until they drive it.
You're biased. Great service and warranty shouldn't be a reason to buy a vehicle. You can't say "we never got stranded" when you actually got towed after loosing power steering at 100 miles, imagine if you took this thing off road - you'd have to get someones 4Runner to pull you out, or wait, you did have a 4Runner but traded it for the defender...
Yup there’s a good reason they are ranked last in customer satisfaction and reliability for ALL manufacturers
I’m giving up. I’m on my 4th range and I’m waiting for it to get back from the shop for the 5000th time. It’s going right away. You can’t keep them on the road
When a Land Rover / Range Rover owners post comments here that they never had any issues, that's a complete BS. There were known issues but owners tend to lie about it or have amnesia for some reason. It's better to share your true story that the warranty will cover the engine light, brake calipers, engine oil leak, etc., and not just be an ambassador of the brand. Bottomline is LR//RR are good looking and cool cars,, hands down, and offers social status, and that's what the brand is good at. I might get a used one by the way, because it looks cool. =D
It has nothing to do with the reliability of the defender, there are tons of defenders out there, when you have money, you want a new car every year, that's how simple it is
Well you could have some fun with this. How about stringing together all the clips of the Defender stranding you, and you working on it? The backing song can be the theme from "Curb Your Enthusiasm". 😊
Lol
Well... Land Rover has so many opportunities to practice their customer service, they've gotten quite good at it.
I love the defender but would only buy the base 4 cylinder model with the 18"rims and add on the off road options
Interesting. My ‘21 has 60K miles and other than an O2 sensor it’s been problem free. I was concerned, but this has been the most reliable car I’ve ever had in 40 years of driving. Keeping it for the long term.
People like you that say things like "that's just the way it is today and we have to deal with it" is the reason that's the way it is today. Try giving your money to a company that makes and sells a dependable vehicle and if enough of us do that then the market will follow.
Also….the mechanics at the Land Rover dealership told me themselves that if you’re under warranty you’re good, but if not….RUN!!!….🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
Misleading title for this video
wow...I hope you guys did alot of water fording and off roading with all that extra cool equipment. The vast majority of these are pavement queens but for many people its about the "active lifestyle" image. More than enough vehicle to tackle a gravel driveway
drive to the park city or aspen for a ski weekend
HAhahahahahaa Awesome comment! I died. You just know his wife was fording rivers on the way to get her hair done. Lolz
1 year old and 3 times unscheduled service. I can understand why wife don’t want this crap
It’s got to be worth $65? It is a gorgeous vehicle Ben! I looked at the Defender.
No matter how great the warranty and the dealer is (I mean, it does, but not for long term ownership when the warranty expires... ) if the vehicle needs to be there often, I can understand wanting to trade it in... Overall, Land Rover is less reliable and cost of ownership is much higher than other brands. I love the looks of the Defender and thought about getting one... but depreciation, cost of services, overall reliability issues... I just could not do it. But man does it look amazing. Specially in the configuration (with the options) that you got. Your wife is making the smart decision. Best to bite the bullet and get rid of it now. Looking forward to seeing what she gets next.
can not imagine dropping 90k on a landrover they are legendary for their depreciation and problems, I'd get her a 4 runner before they downgrade them to the 4cylinder
4 runners lost all class after 1996…. My 1996 is in mint condition with upgrades and will be 4$ale soon, I’m buying a Defender 💙❗️
Land Rover Discovery LR4. 120k miles only replaced two lower control arms. Best car I have ever owned.
But it looked SO cool. Now. Go get a new Toyo Landcruiser in the new body style. You'll enjoy all the time saved at mechanics and dealership service centers to spend with your family and kid...and not worry about anything going out on you. Lexus makes some cool vehicles too. Two things we learned : 1) Why do the British drink warm beer? They have Lucas refrigerators. 2) It's hard to make electronics leak oil; but, the British have figured out how to do it.
Land Rover knows that people don't really care about reliability until something goes wrong. So they spend money on branding and pretty interiors and posh dealerships. They make millions selling style over substance.
Land Rover's loyalty is to people who purchase the vehicle new, not someone who gets it for a 'bargain' 6 years down the line.
as much I love look…i am definitely not going to consider it for issues I have read on many forums
I bought one of those ancient vehicle that Ben mentioned. And so far so good.
Power steering went out after 150 miles !!! Then it went out again. Then the coolant lines needed replaced at 10,000 miles !!!! You only have 10,000 miles on it. It's a brand-new car !!! OMG, Land Rover is still selling lemons !!! Ugh... stop with the excuses and using this video to promote the dealer.
Only option you really need is extended warranty and a free recovery service. Seen more of these on recovery trucks then actually been driven.
Had three RR vogues L322 model with up to 120k miles with only expected age related problems expensive to run and service but can't find another make with same kudos and luxurious daily drive
Land Rovers are best enjoyed under warranty and with an alternative means of transportation.
Would have ordered a Defender 90 by now but of all the things you can customize, you can’t pay for the larger screen. Just not even an option. Only thing that’s been more strange in my shopping experience is that in 2024 the Porsche Macan does not support Android Auto. Apple Play only - and they don’t apologize for it.
30% loss in the first year is pretty typical for new cars
buying a car is basically a claw crane. i had a nissan rogue with so many issues and sold it in 40k miles Honda accord that had many issues (was not even 30k miles) now has volvo xc90 with 30k miles but no single issue at all im thinkin to buy a defender 110 atm.
Perhaps your wife would consider the upcoming GX550 as a replacement. Likely less finicky but also family friendly. I guessed 65K but damn, that's quite shocking!
It’s a shame that a car company that’s been making such beautiful trucks since the 30s can’t make them more reliable… I loved / hated my rover but after replacing my headlights over 10 times in 3 1/2 years I’ve moved on but god I love the looks of the velar 😁😁
You made the beginners error of not buying 2 to keep 1 running while the other is at the mechanic.
I'm sure she reasoned about the consequences once the warranty ran out if it was having such major issues so early on. I'd be scared too imagining how it would bombard the bank account every now and then. She was being wise and looking into the future.
Sorry for your experience; I have had 2 Landrovers - including the L663 - best cars I have ever had 😃👍
I'll be dipped in shit before I'd be willing to eat a $30,000 loss on a single year of ownership for any vehicle. I'd drive that thing until the damn wheels fell off before I'd even consider taking that big of a bath. That's like renting a car for $2,500 a month, on top of having to fill it with gas and insure it.
Where did you get all your money at such a young age?
Had a Range Rover years ago, and although it looked amazing, I was in fear of the embarrassment of driving it and it breaking down in front of everyone because something was ALWAYS wrong with it…🤔🤨🤦🏽♂️🎯💯💯💯
I can not fathom why anybody wastes their money on anything that Land Rover currently builds. Sure, great cars when working, but how long does that last. Awful reliability, lacklustre dealership support, horrifically expensive parts, painful owner experience. That my friends comes from a British guy who once lived and breathed Land Rover.
Well, I have heard it said that if you own a Land Rover, your second vehicle needs to be a tow truck....
😂😂😂😂😂
I like your review . I had a brand new defender 2023 I ordered . I had a few issues like yours within a month . It was an embarrassing situation and I could not drive my car. I spent almost 100K and could not drive it . they fixed the problems . Why are you not mentioning ? Defender is not a reliable car . You are not getting paid from land rover I guess. I traded my car quickly . be bold since you are not getting paid from them . sometimes people rely on your reviews.
Saw another video on this SUV where they went camping out in the sticks; the battery went dead on it BECAUSE every time you open the driver door the electronics boot up every time! That wasn't the worst part---they got a jump BUT it still needed a tech to come out with a laptop to reset the engine management computer. What a POS........
Also I'm around vehicles from every manufacture... Every manufacture has issues... These are machines.... Not every machine is perfect. It's what the manufacture does to make the experience right
Cap. 🧢 LR RR have consistently been far more problematic than most other brands. Yeah, Tundras have issues but the percentage of people bricking their Tundras is far less than those with LR/RR. Imagine, you’ve had these issues in the first 10k miles of ownership. Imagine what it’s like when you’ve had it for 50k. I love LR/RR. Even thought of getting a LR4 as a over landing rig. Went as far as to test drive one. Settled on a GX460 based off the feedback I got from owners. Beautiful suv. But not worth the headache.
You said its reliable and had no issues, but two things had to be replaced under warranty. So the wife is concerned about reliability, which she should be because its a Land Rover.
Just goes to show, if you sell unreliable cars to the public, a very good customer service can make up for a lot of other deficiencies…
Series 1,2,3 and Freelander TD4, SD4, are your best bet. Not the electronic beasts, water and electrics do not go together.
No marks off for liking the Defender, they are incredible. That said, to say that cars these days are all unreliable because they are high tech is just not factually correct. Land Rover pretty much hits the bottom of the reliability list ... usually ticks in just below Chrysler... Since you enjoy the off road features, try a Landcruiser (2024) or the new GX.
Much as i like Land Rover.. reliability has always been an issue for me. But if you can afford repairs, great vehicle to own