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Excellent review! I really appreciate your attention to detail and you encapsulate the real-world user experience very well! I can’t wait for Samsung to release the 57” OLED version of this monitor (wishful thinking, but chances are good). I previously had the odyssey 49” G97T and recently upgraded to the 49” oled, and it’s 100% amazing. I fully respect your concern for burn in, and I was also in the same camp before choosing the oled version of the 49”, but I think living with a bit of risk for the sake of indulgence regarding choices with screens has become more appealing the older I’ve gotten (I also bought the extended warranty with burn-in coverage, just in case lol). The oled experience has been unmatched, full stop. BG3, and other games I’ve previously played, feel completely new to me. The detail you pointed out with the mouse cursor almost disappearing in dark parts of the screen reminds me of the experiences I’ve had with Samsung televisions and “black crush” with scene details due to overly aggressive darkening algorithms. I’ve previously bought Samsung’s 4K Q90 series TVs, and I currently have an 8K Q900, and both have similar tendencies with over-darkening and blooming due to the intrinsic nature of local dimming (I’ve changed any settings you can think of, including service menu settings). Personally, as a video enthusiast, I’m fed up with dealing with local dimming issues and oled has changed me into a true believer. A 57” oled monitor would be amazing! Anyways, you’re doing great work! Your video was a pleasure to watch.
I like that there is no risk of burn in, and no text colour fringing.
No
The background music in this video is phenomenal, especially the second track that comes in. Matches Pats energy perfectly!
The most powerful AMD isn’t the 7900xt, it’s the 7900xtx
XFX X7900XXTX
This Monitor doesn't care.
You wear your big boi pants don’t you?
Thought that was a weird comparison, comparing a card that’s more like 4070 Ti to a 4090 when there is a more powerful AMD card available that’s much closer to the 4090 in power
@@sirsmeghead what happened to if you use a 1070ti
I have the LG 45 ultrawide, I'm definitely getting this. thanks for your review
Thanks from France for this nice review 👍🏻
A blow-up of the text (compared to others) would've been nice. I use a mac for my day to day (coding), and either swap to my other rig (which is a little outdated now since i don't game that much), so was thinking of getting an epic screen for work and then use cloud compute to game if i ever get back into something. So, text is actually really important to me and i was disappointed you showed more gaming footage when talking about text and macs...
Yes! I was waiting for KVM to be included in the G9 series! Sadly no single USB-C cable for display & IO for my work laptop which I really enjoy on my Gigabyte M32Q
I really want to see this monitor thoroughly tested in PBP mode with two cables running from a single 4090. With Nvidia Surround you could then span the displays and regain the single monitor behavior for gaming. It would also allow 16:9 gaming when not spanned and a second monitor for other things. Feels like a win-win.
Yes, in settings.
Did anyone try this yet? I was thinking the same
One of the best reviews I've seen for a monitor of this caliber. Subbed from just one vid, hope there's more soon! Hoping I can get your opinion, have you used an OLED? I've gone from the G7, to G9, to NEO g7 to LG C2 and then to OLED G8/C2.... I miss my G9 every single day of my life but I've had issues going back to non-oled, though my work to get ratio is 70/30, so it's not ideal.
Nice review! Sill waiting for mine to arrive.. your video has made that wait slighty easier haha. Did you update the firmware on it yet or did it come with the lastest one?
It came with the latest firmware, but I hope there is an update soon for more Hz :)
I spoke with Nvidia about the issue with display settings not giving an option for 240hz with a 4090 and they said they were aware of the issue and working with Samsung currently on a fix.
That’s great news !
Isn't that a limitation of hdmi 2.1? Rtx 4090 doesn't have DP 2.1 which is required for 240hz at this resolution.
@tchlin hdmi2.1 can do it, and the rtx4090 has the ability but something is limiting it
SURE! LOL
Haven't had a video in a long time i didn't need to set playback1.5. Keep this format i'm subed 10/10
Thanks mate
Great review, this almost answered all my questions about this. If possible, any feedback on the below questions would be awesome: 1. You mentioned there are more vertical real estate with this one, but is that only pixel wise or is the physical vertical distance more in cm than the Neo G9? I have the 49" G9 Neo and after a year or so I find myself wanting more vertical picture. Dont get me wrong, the 1000R wrap around is awesome for peripheral vision and all, but I cant help myself feeling more vertical would be sweet. I was thinking my next monitor would be the 45" OLED from LG, but almost all reviewers say the pixelation at typical desk distance was very noticable. 2. One problem I had with my 49" Neo G9 was scanlines when using 240hz, HDR with VRR on it. Its super annoying as it only happened in the top left quadrant of the display with it being more and more prominent with light blue pixels or backgrounds. I even had the panel replaced under warranty but it was still there. My wife has exactly the same monitor and its not an issue on hers. Strangely, if I drop it to 120hz, HDR with VRR, its a lot less noticeable. 3. You mentioned that its very bright. Do you think its similar to the 49" Neo G9? Due to the annoyance of the scanlines I found myself playing without HDR often and the 49" Neo G9 felt brighter in a lot of the games that way. So I loved the visual experience of HDR but it was often better overall when playing without. Perhaps its like you said a Windows 11 HDR issue more than the panel, but I guess in the end its all about the end user experience in the environment they design it for.
1. about 2 inches more physical and resolution size. 2. No scanlines, this has been finally fixed 3. I think this is as bright if not more, I dont think many games take good advatage of HDR, more or less I would say there are only a handfull of games that do.
@@TechManPat dammit, Imma have to get this one now too! Thanks
Oh cant wait it is on its way - 15tn September I will join the club :)
Did you calibrate your monitor with windows calibration tool? if so what nits did you choose? some reviewers claim it to be 1300, 1500 or even 1600 nits at smaller window sizes.
Thanks for the great review! Can you measure the diameter of the base stand (front to back)? I do have a narrow desk and I just want to check before purchasing this monitor. Thanks in advance!
The Displayport on the Oled G9 is DP1.4a with DSC. It does support 5120x1440 at 240Hz, and in the case of the Neo G8, 3840x2160 at 240Hz. DP1.4 even with DSC does not support the 7680x2160 of the G95NC at 240Hz. That's why it's limited to 120Hz at 10-bit full RGB on a 4090.
Hello ahmadmuj, can i ask how to obtain 120h with this monitor ? Have tu use Hdmi 2.1 with a 4090?
@@Reiana139 dsplayport 2.0 or 2.1. 7000 series amd or arc 750 or 770
Great review! For me, my ideal set up will be the upcoming 32" OLED 240Hz screen for gaming, and this 57" Mini LED monitor for the work. I usually have 8-10 windows while working, and they will fit perfect on this wide screen.
Out of curiosity, what kinda work do you do? As a translator I can make do with a 13" laptop, so I don't actually need fancy screens. As a programmer, depending on specifics, I may want the 57" or something, but I'm considering vertical 24" or 27" screens for that.
@@fjorddenierbear4832Data analytic. My typical workflow uses 2-4 windows for Power BI, 1-2 for Alteryx, SQL studio, email, messenger, excels, folders and a note taking app. Currently using a 32" 4k screen in horizontal layout and two 24" screens in vertical layout.
I use it for work, Spreadsheets are mint!
@@fjorddenierbear4832 I do data analytics/transformation. I usually have about 8 active monitors at any given time.
Do you think you could put a best settings vid together? Would love your input.
You can use two cables with the M1 Mac connected to two inputs on the monitor with PBP mode according to another review. This would make it full res, only with a split in the middle of course.
I loved your style! The only thing that i missed which is absolutely manditory in 2023 on a monitor like this are precise hdr window test readings.😢 but i guess not everyone is equipped for it. In all other ways good review!
Good point! But as you know equipment costs...
@@TechManPat right... id love even to be able to test it myself. Havent looked at how much it cost. But i can only imagine.
I caved and pre-ordered, it arrives in 4 days, im currently with the G9 Neo 1440p panel on an Ergotron arm + HD mount, could you explain how exactly you positioned the screws in the mount and which screws you used? Thanks!
Once again, great review and cannot wait for the US version to come out. Is the resolution bump very noticeable over the OG G9/Neo?
Yes, text clarity is very nice
Changing from 1440p to 2160p is very noticeable. In additon, I was blown away by the picture quality of this monitor. It's almost like an OLED.
@Prophet_4u2 I have the 49 inch version and it look great. What I want is that vertical real estate.
Great video! Would have been nice to get your thoughts on using it for productivity as well
Sorry mate, yeah i briefly touched on it, I use it for Work from home, I love it.
Great reviews!! Using an M1 Max Macbook Pro here - how did you manage to get the window in the middle of the screen in PBP mode? My window disappears as I drag over the boundary.
Thank you so much for a review. Planning to buy one in the near future. The specifications of the monitor say HDR10+. There is also a sentence that states "2,392 local dimming zones combine with the highest 12-bit black levels to create unmatched picture quality". Therefore I am currently expecting that it is 12 bit rather than 10 bit. Have you seen anything to clarify if it is 10 bit or 12 bit? I think the setting that you show allowing 12 bit probably confirms the latter.
Its 10bit panel, the Nvidia control panel is having a bad day
The (Neo version of the 49" G9) was also listed to have 12bit blacks. Perhaps Samsung speak for inky blacks@@TechManPat
Could you please make a (short) video showing a test of scan lines? (look at the reviews of the 47inch g9 for a comparable test)
ill see what i can do
One thing i would love for pnp mode is to have 1 4k signal center screen with 4 1080p signals surrounding that screen. Lck them all to 60hz and i think it be a multitasking dream come true
Nice review, what is screen height without stand with stand it is 60.1 CM?
You should check out PerfectDark's DLSS 3.0 FG mods for both Starfield and Baldurs Gate 3. Thanks for the screw idea in the Ergotron HD mount; I will do that with mine.
Hey TMP amazing video, really appreciating you for creating such great videos for us viewers. After watching you're video Im very much interested in getting for myself. But I have 1 question, how to fully use the whole 240 hz of the monitor? (im running the 4090 gpu) like what cable shud i use? display port or HDMI and if so do i need to connect two at the same time to fully maximize on the 240 hz? please let me know how it can done, thank you very much. Much love TMP.
You cannot at the moment, and we don’t know if it will be possible in the future. The only option is hdmi but it make require a firmware update from Samsung and nvidia
Thanks, one correction. 1000R curve means when making a circle it would have a radius of 1m.
Ahh balls, haha my bad
Looking at it more for iRacing and sims, would love a bit more vertical but don’t figure they’ll be going for dual 37’s any time soon
You mentioned about the mouse cursor and the dimming zones , how would that affect using it for productivity? Charts etc...?
Charts seem fine as long as it’s not one thin line across a black screen. Which generally it’s not
Waited almost a year for this one, can’t wait. This one is replacing my 49" Neo G9 easy.
Best coverage of this monitor so far, so thanks for the excellent video. Still a bit of a pity as, so far none of the videos/reviews have used it for PC high res gaming with no compression using the DP 2.1 with AMDs fastest 7900XTX. Also the just released 7800 series supports DP 2.1 too which Nvidia did not add to any of their cards yet. That IS the new technology this display offers at its native res which no other monitor offers. Id really like to know how that appears to using DSC. Also interested if you do a follow up video how much better the native res looks over the 1440p on this panel. As in certain titles users may want to reduce the res to maintain framerates.
AMD has committed to sending me the RX7900 so I’ll make sure to test the monitor during that review
@TechManPat Excellent. look forward to it.
Thanks for the review! 5:00 please never do that again, that's a really fast way to crack the screen in the centre 7:20 just a correction, the 7900XT is AMD's RTX 4080 competitor, the 7900XT*X* is the 4090 competitor (yes terrible naming)
Can you expand on the KVM aspect? My current KVM has 4 USB inputs (keyboard, mouse, microphone, webcam) - does it just need a hub to bring those all into the monitor since it only has 2 ports? Are they USB3.0 or 3.1? How do you initiate a swap from one device to the other?
Excellent video! I can’t wait to get my hands on one!! Currently on the LG 42 C2. One question You said not to bother with windows 11 HDR. I’ve had non stop issues with HDR because of it. Are you able to run games with HDR enabled in game without turning it on windows 11? I’ve had a constant confusion about how this works
I've found that if a game does not have the ability to use HDR without turning on Windows 11 HDR, it is not worth using. The HDR only looks good if the game detects the monitor is capable of it while it being off in Windows.
I’ve been debating uninstalling windows 11 and using windows 10 just because of the HDR issues, and different resolutions of dual monitors. I haven’t tried yet because it would be a lot of work to reinstall everything and find out I still have the issue on windows 10
I was about to say the same thing, if a game needs windows HDR then it’s bad.
So basically, keep HDR mode turned off in windows 11 display settings, but run it in game? Or am I misunderstanding? I drive truck for a living, so cant currently test my setup 😂 but I am a growing channel. Just trying to get my content up to par.
Correct. Keep it off in Windows 11 settings.
I owned before Neo G9 and the local dimming blooming is annoyed to me especially when viewing video, not so issue on gaming, so I upgraded to OLED G9 and wow perfect! the text clarity do not that great but I accepted that compare with blooming. This 57" Neo G9 look awesome! I hope Samsung will release the OLED version in future and I hope it is 1000R for this one as it is giant long, with current OLED G9 1800R might not look good on it.
Agree with you 100% need this in oled for sure. but happy with the g9 oled myself. I think the point with the oled you are to sit further back and text dont look so bad but on the g9.s and neo g8 I always had to scale text as to small to see unlike the oled.
@@JoeMama-yl1ow Actually the text is not that bad, it still sharp just sometimes it look a bit edged. The purple fringing is very minimal and not an issue. I still using 100% scale but I set text size to 105%. It look fine to me in normal distance, I did not seat further. 😊
@@Andrewtst2009 I will try that for sure might help me ty...
@Pat: I currently have the original Neo G9 49". Scanlines are a problem and the monitor gets pretty warm so that I can feel it on my face after a few hours of work. How's this one in that regard?
Scanlines have been fixed in this version, I can confirm it looks great.
@@TechManPat great! How warm does it get?
Excellent review. Been waiting for this. Question - I’ve seen someone complain this puts out a lot of heat. Have you noticed that it gets noticeably or annoyingly hot - does it heat up your room more than your last monitor?
Yes it does
I can confirm, that it radiates more heat than my previous CRG9 (5120x1440p). It is summer now however, so not yet sure how annoying this can get. Although, I am considering buying a monitor fan or something to blow away the heat and not let it get to my face 🙂
Update: after 4 days of using the monitor I can tell you the radiation heat is not a problem, (for me), @ 24°C room temperature and about 70-80 cm distance, 120Hz.
@@Prophet_4u2 thanks for the reply
As above, you cannot feel it its generally a few degrees above ambient and it goes up wards.
Awesome review!! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Works at 7680x2160@59.987Hz with Quadro P5000 and 31.0.15.3625 driver over DisplayPort 1.4, excellent for coding and CAD. For HP 1040 G10 x360 laptop could only get 3840x2160@60Hz or 5120x1440@59.977 over HDMI 2.0^ port or a 4K USB-C to HDMI adapter. May try an 8K USB-C to HDMI adapter, but limitations are probably in the embedded Intel Xe Graphics drivers. Probably tapped out at 60Hz for the P5000 card due to bandwidth limits on DisplayPort 1.4. Since this monitor replaces 2 dell 3008wfp monitors that are 14 years old, I got some time to get to 240Hz.
I am considering to get this mainly for work as I like to have a lot of windows open at once. Can I use at full res with my MacBook Air M2?
Thanks for the review … totally get that you’re an individual rather than a test house with a million dollars of test kit behind them so I appreciate your subjective opinions and observations. I’ve been waiting for someone to release this monitor for years and I actually *WANT* to use it permanently in PBP mode from a single very low power and low spec HP Thin Client via two DP to HDMI cables at 60Hz … with the Thin Client only being used to RDP into my other machines with two machines being logged into simultaneously at 4k being the norm. Yes, an odd use case but it’s how I work normally but usually using dual 4k monitors.
That’s a very specific use case. I would assume it can work, tho the thin client might not manage the resolution
@@TechManPat - it runs two 4k monitors at 60Hz at the moment so should be fine… :-)
I also upgraded from the 49" model to this 57" beast, but which display interface are you using? DP or HDMI? I'm also running a water-cooled 4090 btw.
Got mine yesterday - what a beautiful panel. Even though the weight difference between the 49 and 57 is only about 1kg the desk mount cant handle the larger panel. Tech Man Pat, what desk mount did you use?
Ergotron with the hd pivot but it’s still not enough
@@TechManPat Mines a different brand and fails at the elbow where there is no adjustment
@@TechManPat Apparently someone has had success with a Logilink Monitor arm (Logilink heavy duty 20kg).
When did you order yours?
I have a Neo G9 and my solution to any dimming problem was to set Local Dimming to auto, HDR to dynamic and also running Windows in HDR at all times.
Will it run hdr content in picture by piture mode? I think previous Samsung ultrawides wouldn't do this
Thank you for the coverage! I have the 2020 version and it is ungodly hot, like literally heat comming off of it and heating my face up. Any similar issue with this version?
Same
After 4 days of using the monitor I can tell you the radiation heat is not a problem, (for me), @ 24°C room temperature and about 70-80 cm distance, 120Hz. At normal 21°C I expect not to notice anything in this regard.
@@Prophet_4u2 thanks boo
If you had the option to go with either this or the Ark Gen 2 for gaming/work, which one would you go for? Or would you choose something else entirely?
4:28 I was lucky (probably), my HX Heavy-Duty Tilt Pivot can handle the 57" monitor pretty well. No problems there. It is "new" though...i.e. I bought it 1 or 2 years ago and never used it, until now. FYI. The website from Ergotron states, that it should work (with the adapter). I would try and get a replacement maybe? Cheers.
Yeah could be the issue but they did say it won’t hold it when I spoke to them so I haven’t bothered
what are your recommended HDR settings for this monitor?
@TeachManPat Hey there! Im going to get my G9 Neo in a couple of days and wanted to ask if you could tell me where you got that background picture at 13:17 from. Thanks in advance!
That’s actually the built in background from the latest beta version for Mac OS
Last year G9 Neao have scanling rgb tiles horizontally, bad lcd, on all models, does this one have it too? can u zoom in do some pics/post?
Wondering if you can tell us how much heat this thing produces? Also, what do you think the display would look like using older graphics cards?
Its hot AF, pumps out way more heat than the 49" one I replaced it with. And I wouldn't bother buying it if you dont already have a 4090 to run it, if you can afford this panel, you can affford the 4090 as well.
Great review. I have a question. I purchased this monitor last week. I have the same ergotron arm w,th you and bought the heavy duty pivot part but still cant hold the mon.tor. You mentioned about some screws but I didnt understand how/where to install them:( Thanks in advance
Okay so. If you look under the pivot, the black metal frame slides into the white powder coated outside shell, when you look under and push it up there is a notch that slides, if you put a metal screw or really anything in between to jam it from going back into itself then it wont go down.
@@TechManPat Top Man! Fixed it and got rid of ths books those support the monitor from both sides. I couldnt be more thankful. 👌🥰
Gotta wait to be sure it won't be flickering, making cracking noises etc like the first one. ... but planning to get and switch my current g9 for sure.
I got mine two days ago. No flickering, but, some cracking noises from thermal expansion. These noises are sporadic, but in a quiet room you will notice them. They tend to disappear after a few minutes of use though. They seem to be coming exclusively from the left side of the monitor.
@@Prophet_4u2 good to hear! My g9 cracks thermally, but I stopped hearing it, so I could live with that..just looking for other potential bugs.
Happy to "report", that the small cracking noises are getting less and less annyoing. I still hear them everytime I turn on the monitor (I've had it only for 4 days), but they disappear after a while, and/or if I "massage" the monitor by "bending" it applying/releasing pressure on the sides of the screen - Cheers. Very happy with this monitor.@@x3merx3mer
I realize this is a gaming market monitor but it would have been great to spend a few minutes on productivity usage like multiple applications open side by side and how much the curvature changes the perspective compared to flat displays. Great review on the gaming aspects!
Hey, to let you know, this monitor is OK for the productivity market. For one, the colors are very saturated, so for instance coloring a video may be off. If you are looking for an ultrawide for productivity, I honestly recommend asus’s ROG 49in monitor. The simplicity of Asus’s Ecosystem is one of the main things I typically point out to my friends. You can practically spend $10k and have a simple and very reliable system, that transfers from work to home so easily.
@@AZEOforreal I appreciate your input. I supposed I should have been more detailed in my inquiry. By productivity I meant multiple applications open for documentation, programming, plotting windows, etc. I do not do graphic arts or video editing. I would assume they color saturation, balance, contrast, brightness are all fine tunable parameters like all digital displays for the last 10 years? If not, then Samsung really shot themselves in the proverbial foot. My current setup uses 3 Dell displays giving me 4960x1600 resolution with physical real estate making the 49 inch display too short and barely the same width sans the annoying bezels eating up real estate on my setup. I've held off for this very reason; the 49" would be a downgrade in more than one aspect making the loss of the bezels less than a zero net gain. The 57" however gives me equal physical display height, ~3 inches more per side and much higher resolution. Now that is a win-win-win, etc. Thanks again for your reply and input!!!
@@physicsguybrian no worries, I understand your complaint on the 49”. That was why I was looking as well. I used a 49” with two 27” on the side mostly for sim racing and work, and ended up realizing the two monitors were so-so with needs. I ended up going to my local microcenter and trying out the 57” there, and I really loved the size of it, but like I said the color grade, even with the different settings, didn’t exactly match what I was looking for in the end. The productivity was pretty good, though. I used it with excel, and on the side I do 3D modeling on Blender, and it didn’t bog my computer down at all and everything ran crisp and smooth. Like I said, though, I returned it for the color accuracy. It was almost abysmal in my eyes. It was very clear they were pandering to a specific niche, with neon greens and fuchsia esque reds really put me off. I would recommend checking it out in person if you do wish to buy one. It may appeal to you more. Productivity was great.
I had the same experience, when my neighbor saw the courier she thought I had ordered a fridge :)... if you want to remove the remains of cardboard from the front of the monitor, you can do it using an ordinary small piece of paper from such office pads.
What are the little displays with buttons on the right below the monitor standing on your desk?
1) Is it possible to game only using 4K in the middle of the screen with black bars? 2) is possible to set 1920x1080 resolution for the 2nd connected PC? (I test games in 1080p) so it will be visible on the side of this monitor? Thank you!
I'm curious how it would handle "dark mode" for productivity considering the dimming zones. I run in dark mode at work on my 49 and am a bit worried about blooming everywhere.
It’s fine, but like I said the mouse and little bits are grey instead of white
when you do the 2 screens side by side does the Resolution or refresh rate decrease like the G2 Ark ? I can only to 1080p in multi view
Hi - thanks for the review. Could you make a video with the FPS you are getting with your 4090 and some games, at low, mid high, ultra settings? That would be great.
Will do
Go Australia! You literally are in the future. @@TechManPat Btw, I would like to get your opinion on this: Let me ellaborate... So far I have had a Samsung 5120x1440p, the first model that came out with this resolution, LC49RG90 - never saw the need to upgrade to the G9... so, I've used my "old" RG90 monitor with an RTX 2080, then 3080 and just recently went all the way with an ASUS Strix 4090 OC card. With the 4090 I finally experience total butter-sweet smoothness in gaming - without tinkering with graphic settings. With the new G95 NC, I am however concerned if my GPU is going to have enough power, without having to go back to tinker with all graphic settings in games. I play mostly RPGs like Baldurs Gate, Cyberpunk, The Witcher and (the terribly optimized) Starfield. My question is then: yes or no to preorder the G95NC? Thanks for your opinion.
@Prophet_4u2 if you want to keep your buttery smooth frames then best to stay on your own monitor, and only jump over when the 5000 series comes out then get the G95 - I trended a few frames for the larger screen
I just finished installing this monster monitor - WAU - WAU WAU so nice - cheers to technology @@TechManPat
@@TechManPat yes please!!!!!!! I would love to see the fps results and obv you’ll prob be the first to post so more views 😎
The price stopps me now. But I think you can overcome the loss of the mouse when you set a custom cursor, like from a game or something.
Is it a VA panel? Hows the black smear? Whats the response and inputlag like? Ghosting? How big is the color coverage? sRGB, DCI P3? And what is the delta average before and after color calibration?
What fps were you getting on doom eternal? My favorite game!
Does this monitors support HDCP 2.2? Of course I will be using this mostly for work & gaming BUT I would also want to watch 4k UHD DVD’s and Netflix at 4k on Windows 11. Thanks
Is there anything else with the size, shape, pixels like this, but without the gamer specs for cheaper? I don't really game but do need all of that real estate for multitabling poker games. Thanks!
Great review, well presented. I agree Mini LED is awesome and in some ways better than OLED. In my experience blooming is not an issue at all. I’ll take the benefits even with the small number of cons any day of the week
I have to disagree, MiniLED is great but there is something so beautiful about a glossy OLED screen that just looks better than a MiniLED, even if it has much less brightness than the latter.
I think they should have made it OLED, would have been way better
Having had both I'd disagree, OLED is far superior even to mini led. Even the fastest mini leds on the market have nowhere near the response times of an oled, and mini led still looks hazy in dark scenes in comparison. I had an odyssey neo g9, and now have an LG oled, I can't ever imagine going back to led@@helenHTID
Depending on how this sales will depend on if they make a oled model but my money is on they will release one in 2024 lol @@drunkhusband6257
Putting OLED glossy next to MiniLED, the difference is huge indeed. MiniLED is just like a really nice standard IPS-ish LCD. I'll take the MiniLED for work any day, of course. But I find my Asus PG27AQDM is fine enough for my work needs, though text is not very impressive. For MiniLED I just have a Zephyrus M16. The brightness is amazing, but I'll take OLED or QD-OLED for gaming any day.
Having the monitor set to quto or low for local dimming helps eliminate the house cursor drown out
Great review ... before i order this beast can i ask what is the depth of your desk? Thanks :)
900mm
Thanks :)
my face exactly is like 10:59 14:24 if you heat the protective film up a bit, it will come off easy with little or no residues (yes, afraid its not 3M backing)
Im curious to know is it possible to get more HZ with just 8 bit color ? its like no one can answer this.
Can a lenovo legion go be hooked up on that monitor? Dont want to to build a pc just want this monitor for either of game systems PS5/legion go. Thank in advance 😊
Is it good for streaming too? For example gaming in the mid, while having the chat open on the right and OBS on the left? That possible? Or do I have to play in 32:9 all the time and can't use three windows at once?
You can set anything up, in windowed mode, but not with PIP
@@TechManPat Amazing :) thought I need additional software. Thank you
thanks for the vídeo, great coverage. Just a tip, the fastest card from AMD is RX 7900 XTX not RX 7900 XT as you posted, if you go AMD you'll won't regret, i'm sure.
Thanks for the info! It was my bad, got mixed with the extra X
how well will this work with the Mac M1 Max, ? i use the CalDigit TS4 as well. will i get 240Hz? full resolution? any limitations?
Definitely my next monitor
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Thank you :P
mate, what are those two devices you have just below the monitor on the right (with the dials etc.)?
Those are two elgato stream decks, one old model one new.
This is the only review that encouraged me to buy my new Neo G9 😅
Just picked up a G7 (non-Neo) 32" for $500. Best bang for the buck right now.
Oh my goodness! Your explanation is absolutely fantastic!!! I also have the G9 57 monitor and an RTX4090, and you've articulated all of my sentiments perfectly!!! Samsung has really taken miniLED technology to the next level this time. It outshines the previous generation Neo G9 49 in terms of color vibrancy; it's almost on par with OLED quality. Plus, using OLED for a PC monitor can often lead to screen burn-in issues.😝
can the 4090 even push beyond 120hz? even if it did have dsc for 240 it won't be at 10 bit (and there is a difference, probably can't see it anyway since it's still an lcd with local dimming zones instead of self emissive or dual layer). its a matte finish which blurs everything overall in which combined with dimming zones only blurs the clarity more. the color accuracy likely has issues ranging from big to small in several areas like all the other G9's, samsung VA is fast but on such a wide resolution and panel there's bound to be overshoot problems across the refresh rate. the high resolution and standard subpixel arrangement makes up for the clarity drawbacks vs qd oled mentioned above somewhat (big plus) however at the drawback of what would be considered an insane amount of money to spend on a monitor just a decade ago paired with having to spend an insane amount on graphics cards just to maintain a good framerate.. THAT and the FACT that games hardly support 21:9 (stretching on the sides) let alone the trashed immersion from 32:9 unless you spend every waking moment worrying about what games have reverted your ultrawide modifications just to maintain proper 32:9 support whether that be from windows/driver/game updates. I don't understand how G9 owners can tout how amazing these monitors are for gaming when clearly its all about just having an ego trip over and over to relive that initial wow effect when you had to buy something just to have an experience, I've seen these monitors, they're crazy cool, buy one for regular gaming use? fk no
@@StevoHDA Regarding your comments about self-inflation and strong praise for the product, I understand your perspective, but I'd like to clarify a point. My goal is not to promote the product or engage in self-inflation. In fact, I don't even play games myself; I use the monitor primarily for web browsing. I mentioned these features based on my understanding that they can be very useful for users with specific needs and budgets. I hope this helps clarify my position. Furthermore, I agree with your earlier point that the 32:9 aspect ratio may have compatibility issues with games and applications, and for some, the high cost and advanced features may make it an impractical choice. However, this depends on individual needs and budgets, and everyone has different perspectives. We live in a time of constant technological advancement, and display technology is continually evolving. The ultimate choice should be based on individual circumstances and preferences and doesn't necessarily indicate self-inflation. I appreciate your candid response, and if you have any other differing viewpoints, please feel free to share them.
@@-a.no- oh sorry, yeah majority of reviews and comments are about gaming on these, it definitely is the best monitor for productivity when it comes to wide screens and if you need color accuracy you'd know how to get it calibrated anyway. Few gamers only play the games that would actually support 32:9 but samsung saw a market there where these few gamers also used their widescreens for productivity, that was clear in the original G9, but then a new market developed from the desperation of lonely gamers. The new G9's cost so much more now but in the end, if its reliable (time will tell with this sammy) it becomes a normal cost to pay for productivity
@@StevoHDA No problem, thank you for your response. You raised some interesting points, especially about the strengths of this monitor in terms of productivity. Indeed, the display market now offers a variety of choices to cater to different people's needs. I agree that this monitor excels in productivity, and color accuracy is certainly important to some users. Hopefully, this monitor will prove to be reliable in the long run. Thanks again for your response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it allows us to delve deeper into the various strengths and limitations of these technological products 🙂
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Would you take this or the new upcoming Asus 32" OLED? I'm pretty interested in this monitor since I'm currently using a 38" LG ultrawide but want proper HDR.
Well this is bigger, and I wouldn’t go oled sooooo….
@@TechManPat I think you think like I do hehe, ultrawides are so nice.. But on a serious note, is the HDR actually, genuinely good on this monitor? I know you talked about this but I just felt that the HDR on an LG C2 OLED in Horizon Zero Dawn was so much nicer than what my current 38gn950-b is capable of. I know it won't be like OLED, but at least closer to OLED?
6:02 just to correct/expand: DP 1.4 does in fact support 8k at 60hz (with DSC), and only 30hz without DSC. It is a bit of a technicality. Otherwise your descriptions are spot on! Well-researched and informative video. Speaking of DP, have you tried one of the Thunderbolt to HDMI 2.1 adapters to at least get native resolution at 60hz on the M1 Mac? I would expect this to most likely not work either, but with Apple you never know for sure :) No idea why Apple had to limit even the Mac Studio in such a way, only for them to enable entry model M2 computers to do 8k without a problem. Just Apple things I guess.
Just doing some more research: there are DP 1.4 adapters that enable M1 macs to run 4k at 144hz. That requires more bandwidth than 7680x2160 at 60hz would require. However, there could still be a software limitation in place. Would it be possible for you to check if a thunderbolt DP 1.4 adapter allows for driving this monitor at 60hz in native resolution? I am very much considering buying this, but I own two M1 Mac Studios that I really do not want to replace any time soon. I know there are workarounds like using the monitor in split screen mode with two different connectors, which then would even allow you to run it at 120hz. But this also comes with a lot of downsides, like having the dock on the left or right side, having two bars at the top and most importantly: not being able to have any windows in the center, as MacOS will cut off windows hanging "off" one screen instead of showing half on the other. So the experience would be anything but seemless that way.
@@XTJ7 let us know if you figure things out! I have a M1 Max macbook pro and interested in knowing if there are any workarounds to getting native resolution on this monitor.
Currently I use a USB-C to DisplayPort 8k 60hz cable with my M1 max and Samsung 49" and it works great with native resolution of 5120 × 1440; the connection should have enough bandwidth for 7680x2160
@@patrickrenschler5972 7680x2160 is 2.25 times the resolution of 5120x1440 though. I run two M1 Mac Studios, so I won't buy the monitor without confirming I can at least run it in 60hz mode. That unfortunately means other people have to test it first :)
ok i need this in my life
Can you test plugging in 2 HDMI cables, putting the monitor in PiP mode, then merging the two displays in the Nvidia control panel? In theory, we should be able to beat 120Hz at full-res in this way...
Tried, but nvidia apparently knows it’s a bug and maybe already be working on enabling 240hz on the panel
How much heat does this generate and how would you compare to other monitors in this regard?
It radiates more heat than my previous 49" CRG9 5120x1440p. Now it is summertime though (so the room temp. is anyway higher than average), so I am not so sure if it will be a problem. However, I believe a small deskfan would do the trick to blow the heat sideways away from your face. Nevertheless, I have played now a couple of hours without complains from my face or make up melting down ;-) .
Does your monitor make any popping noises on the back plastic?
When you get to 3:55 in the time line you state the display to have picture in picture as a feature. It's actually "picture by picture".
Sorry you are right
7:00 Why would you compare the RTX 4090 to the 7900 XT instead of the XTX? Granted, it still isn't as fast as the 4090, but it gets close to it in many games, and it certainly is faster than the XT.
I have mine on preorder. Let's see how often I have to trade it in this time or if Samsung's QA got a bit better....
Tiss time to spin for the winning numbers in Samsungs monitor lottery
The radeon pro w7900 has display port 2.1 is the only graphics card that can maximumise the display potential
so i have an i9 13900k with a 4070ti with 68 gb of ram would that be weak for this monitor?
I'm currently using triple 32" 165hz curved monitors and considering this as a replacement. So this monitor is basically the same height as a standard 32" right?
Correct