Andy Goldstein CALLS For ALL EFL Clubs To BOYCOTT The FA Cup Next Season If They SCRAP Replays! 😤💢
2024 ж. 18 Сәу.
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Andy Goldstein & Darren Bent discuss The FA proposing to scrap FA Cup replays.
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There are 92 clubs in the football league but they only consult the top 20. It’s a shambles.
There are 72 clubs in the football league.
There is only club in the football league. YNWA ❤
@@kylefraser8360Liverpool aren’t apart of the EFL
The bigger picture is that there are over 500 clubs that take part in the FA cup from the preliminary rounds onwards.
There ar 70 million in the UK, yet only a top few get to make the countries decision...thats how life work
Every efl and non league team should just refuse to play
100%
And then they will scrap the competition which is what the big teams want
Then there won’t be an fa cup competition 😂
And fans of the Prem league should also refuse to go to matches. It's absolutely disgusting the way this has been managed. It's just one more hit on smaller clubs and they are effectively sucking the life out of the oldest competition, minimizing its importance.
Or make the efl cup what it used to be and efl cup no premier league teams....oh yh they invited the premier league teams cos no 1 cared about the cup till they joined
It’s time people supported their local club instead of believing the media bullshit of only focussing on the top clubs.
Agree 100 percent BHAFC.
Why? If you have no emotion invested in the team why would you support them? Lol I'm not worried how Godstone FC play
@@stuartgolby9767cheers for providing the proof
@@adampark4238 it's like saying English people should only eat English food or watch English TV shows and movies
@stuartgolby9767 that has to be the most ridiculous comparison I have ever seen
Andy trying to find ways to give Man U an extra chance to get through 😂
😂😂😂
Get over the jealous anti United thing please. They aren't even part of the discussion! 😈
They will be when they are in league one
@@kevinmcnicoll8649league 1 won’t exist by then
Oh give it a rest
The big clubs are not even in the 1st or 2nd rounds..What a joke..so Dorking v Maidstone in round 1 cannot play a replay because of UEFA and PL...joke
'Nobody cares about Lincoln town' - Simon Jordan
It is pretty stark that nearly no prem supporting fan likes this and they understand the necessity of these replays, just owners and the FA only see it in the light apposed to actual fans. Just a bunch of boardroom cronies.
I don’t think the conversation should just be about money, fans of the smaller clubs want to see the big teams come to their stadiums that’s stuff some people tell their grandkids
It is about money, dont delude yourself . This only happens if 1 team doesn't win, which rarely happens when they play bigger teams.
@@Akinwalesegun that’s my point mate, it shouldn’t be about money. Football has enough of it, it’s just pure greed now
time for efl break away from the FA
Get a grip.
Agreed
This is shocking news F.A cup is traditional leave it alone 😢
if you want to clear space, remove the European qualifying clubs from the League Cup. Problem solved. Then the big boys can enjoy their start to the season without fixture congestion. It means a new winner of the competition every year (feels like it's only been won by Man City or Liverpool lately) and it means that the League One/Two sides will still get to go to some big grounds! Stamford Bridge, Spurs' Stadium, Stadium of Light, Hillsborough etc would've been stadiums to go to this season. It will also make the FA Cup more sacrosanct.
Completely agree with this. Been saying it for years. Such an easy win all round
European comps have been expanded to January. How do PL clubs play in replays in January then?
I would seriously turn the league cup into what you've suggested... Brilliant idea👌
100% agreed. It is now the English Super Cup
Time for us fans to boycott prem games and go watch our local lower league clubs.
Speak for yourself mate
Won't happen plenty of foreigners
Well said, never normally agree with much Andy Goldstein says on TalkMufcsport but he's spot on here!
This is why i dont listen to drive anymore. Its bad enough nobody can get through a sentence without him shouting "WHOS BETTER, HIM OR SCHOLES!?!". Then comes out with this kind of nonsense.
Are there any countries in the world that has replays in their domestic cup competitions? They are prehistoric.Just give smaller clubs more money from the bigger clubs tv money etc. Replays are hated by big clubs for a reason,more injuries in a packed fixture list.
If these "big clubs" have players' welfare in mind, then a) stop going off to play friendlies three days after the season ends on the opposite side of the world, b) use their bloated squads properly and stop loaning out a dozen players a season for financial gain. It also misses the main point, which is lower league clubs playing EFL teams can be huge for them as well as well for a League 1/2 side. Exposure, local businesses, they all get that uplift. The intrigue, the spectacle, the throwback to a bygone era, the plucky underdog stories. The dreams of a non League player making a name for themselves, etching their name in the history books for a brief moment. However, i dont expect the myopathy of the franchisee fan and their clubs, wallowing in the muck of avarice to grasp any of that.
Simon Jordan explains this. I agree
Ok if no replays, the small club gets all revenue from every game played against premier league club or at least 80/20 split. That's the price they should pay... Big club bullies...makes me sick and I'm a Liverpool fan... They need to get some perspective.
I agree, Boycott the FA CUP, shocking decision but that's the FA for ya..
Not only the efl boycott but the premiership clubs as well this is one way of killing small clubs dreams shame on the fa
This should be a done deal - they all should work together on this. And get semis back at neutral grounds aswell whilst they’re at it. Save this competition from the idiots that run it
The EFL could boycott the fa cup but that would be self destructive. If this decision to scrap relays is overturned the premier league teams could boycott the fa cup and who would be interested then. This is about reducing games for the top teams. I would go further, League cup sf make over one leg. Reduce champs league groups to 3 teams so you only play 4 matches instead of 6. Scrap international friendly During the season. Scrap world club championship and that ridiculous club world cup next summer. Top players are playing to much, getting injuried to much and diluting the quality of play because of tiredness.
Any club that qualifies for europe ban them from the FA cup for that season, Simple as that.
yes they should they put youg kids in until the semis most of the time
I reckon doing that for the EFL Cup is the better option for that idea
the disgusting reality of what money does to sports...
Why not scrap pointless internationals instead I'm a Leeds fan and the last internationals ruined our season we would be probably be promoted by now record points too unbeaten at home all this ruined by badly scheduled international s
Although I'm a Newcastle fan, I like to watch Leeds and your right and I agree 100% with you 👍
I agree internationals are dogshit
Leeds United are more important than international teams then? Do you think everything you aren't interested in is "pointless"?
Absolutely right , these stupid internationals using 2 weeks for us to play Finland and Moldova is a joke you could knock them games out in 48hrs...In reality the FA cup is dying on its feet , with the Chumpions Lge increasing .....
i agree mate they are a waste of time and players get injured and fucks up the teams season
Boycotting the competition will kill the competition AND THATS WHAT THE BIG CLUBS WANT!
No they don’t
They should create a European competition for lower league clubs. That will creat more revenue for those clubs
Anglo Italian cup!
There were 2 replays this year. It’s not that deep.
The minute the EFL says they'll boycott, the Premier League will be happy to see the whole competition go away. MLS tried keeping all of their teams out of the US Open Cup this summer and then USSF provided a half measure where the top teams playing in Concacaf Champions Cup could sit out the tournament and only 8 MLS teams had to put in their senior teams. I also think if clubs are counting on FA Cup money to keep them afloat need to do more to fix their finances than counting on potentially hosting a Premier League team. How many lower league teams are also still trying to squeeze games in because of weather, cups, and other issues. It's not just the Prem that are having this problem. Fortunately only City and Chelsea have to worry about the Club World Cup.
That would all be fine m, until you actually see that the Premier League outside of "The Big Six" are creaking financially as well. MLS however is a great example because of the franchisee nature of the ownership there is being replicated here and that has fed down to the people who like to see the club doing well. Supporters, however, are getting shafted by it. There is a distinction.
Solve this by making any premier league team who beats an EFL Club in extra time in the FA Cup pay compensation to the EFL Club that would have previously got a replay.
What? 😂
@@Nooguysorryyyy536 what don't you understand?
Over 700 teams compete in the FA Cup, yet 20 got to choose what happens for the rest of the
The premier league teams have a squad of 25 players, plus youth teams, plus under 21 squads. There is no good enough reasons to bin replays!!! They are lokking after themselves as normal.
It’s not just the efl clubs. Non league clubs possibly suffer even more. If they get a replay even at a league 1 club it can be huge
Clubs who cant afford to lose revenue boycott a huge source of revenue. Genius.
Less competitive games for the big clubs takes pressure off their first team squads. It also free's up more windows of opportunity to play exhibition matches in China or the rich Arab countries.
Lower league clubs have more of a chance of knocking out bigger clubs if replays are removed surely. The percentage of replays that are won by the lesser team are low whereas in the first leg if the lesser team has already gone 90 minutes drawing then they have extra time or pens . Usually the bigger team just goes strong in the return leg and blitzes them
Reducing the pressure on fixtures would suggest that other tournaments are not expanded, but that is so obviously not the case. The smaller clubs, the ones that benefit most from forcing a replay are not involved in top European or National team issues and this so obviously robs them of the potential for cup dividends. If I hadn’t started watching my team over 50 years ago, I’d look to a local third tier team and give them my money and support - they’ll certainly need it.
How exactly would this upset the premier league? It would reduce the number of rounds, and hence the number of fixtures. Exactly what they want
Its not about revenue, its about the culture of football.
I don`t get the problem. In germany our cup is always just one game, and that leads to clubs from lower leagues are capable to get much further than if they had to play a rematch. Makes the cup way more fun with just one game.
No this is wrong! Joe public has to go to work every day of the week year in year out for pittance money compared to what these premier clubs players get! They are paid to play football and entertain! Its bad enough that these domestic trophies have lost popularity compared to Europe competition. Clubs many years ago played far more games than they do now! If they eat what we mortals eat they wouldnt be so tired and fed up and would be stronger! 😤😤
The quickest way to fix the schedule is to not have promotion for a season and have demotion only from the Prem league down for 4 teams. That leaves 16 teams in the PL moving forward and only 30 games played in the PL so 8 less games on the schedule. Those extra 4 teams moving down will end up with 4 more teams in the National league. They play so many games you could just play each other once.
I agree with Darren's compromise idea and that this should have been tabled in discussions with the EFL. Not talking to the EFL isso disrespectful and smacks of corruption in my opinion.
As a prem team we should be supporting efl and prioritise home competitions 25 man squads + youth for a reason.
The Fans have far more common sense than the FA
Darren Bent finally comes up with a good idea....but still want replays
There were safeguards that could have been put in place, whilst removing the replays, to protect small and non league clubs but the FA just decided to change the format because the Premier League didn’t like them 🤷♂️
When did the rules change where you can now block the ball with your arm/ hand in the box if you are wearing sky blue, or does it cover all foreign state owned teams?
So will fleetwood pick up costs of sales, electricity, heating, security if they opt to play at old Trafford or anfield
Maybe if both clubs don't want a replay, then they should be allowed that
If a non league team is at home, drawing with a big team, they can knock them out on penalties.. rather go away and lose.
So if 1 teams wants and the other dont? Yall are suggestion options tou wont like when it works against your team
here is an idea, if the bigger clubs don't want replays...WIN THE FIRST MATCH. play a strong tea, get the job done.
He's right all small clubs should boycott it
BUT. If non League team is drawing with a big team. Would they prefer another game away, or, a Penatly shootout to knock them out and get further in tournament
Why dont they just seed teams into pots meaning the smaller teams wont be knocked out as early and then when it gets later into the competition the team with the bigger stadium would host the match so they share out ticket sales
I can believe The FA decided the calendar with everyone’s input because they don’t pre-plan replays anyway. But the Prem to not consult EFL on replays is out of order but unfortunately, they don’t need to. Boycotting the cup loses money for the small clubs too. What can you do? They need a compromise. All small clubs will take no replays for more money share. The Prem doesn’t need to hog all the money.
Its about money, money which they are gonna get back as part of the deal, how many replays have you seen? They rarely happen. We like to hug on nostalgia . Lets take football back to what it was in the 1800s
What is Darren Bent on about!! So forget the tradition let the smaller club choose where the game is played? It’s the FA cup for Christ sake
pretty sure tony bought up in germany if one club is 2 leagues or more below their opponent they get to choose where to play the game. Giving the smaller club the option of money or home advantage. something like this would minimise financial impact of no replays
What is the point of a cup draw if teams can choose where they play just based on what makes them more money.
The best way they could sort this is 1- keep the replays until round 3 as big teams join until then, 2- any team lower than the championship, always get the home tie when facing championship and above teams 3-increase the revenue from the tv beal by an additional 5% 4- use wembly for the final only like the old days
The FA cup is my favourite competition, so on a personal level this is very upsetting to see!! I totally agree with a boycott for next season!!
The only positive I can see happening is that it might give smaller clubs a better shot at progressing further….fluke wins and penalties could help a lower team progress against one of the big boys
Football is no longer for the working class. It’s now just a business run by people who have never even played the game 😢
If the FA consulted EFL and other clubs then why are we only hearing about scrapping replays just now? Keeping secrets in football is almost impossible (liking a tweet makes international news) so i doubt it was ever discussed as the FA have maintained. PL teams can and do field their reserve side in the League and FA Cup so there shouldn't be an issue.
TBF it’s extraordinary that the biggest and richest game in the world doesn’t showcase the best teams and players week in week out against each other. A Euro league of some sorts is inevitable. Imagine the LA lakers playing the Dakota prairie dogs week in week out. It’s nonsense
That John was my manager haha
Simple solution regarding replays give the choice to both clubs before the ties played if both clubs don't want a replay then don,t have one if both clubs can,t agree then go ahead with a replay where's the problem
As Simon Jordan mentioned, if the clubs just got the replay money (via the so called "PL pyramid"), they wouldn't five a f*** about this. The fans probably might but ultimately if the PL gave the small clubs more cash, this wouldn't be anywhere near as big an issue. Regarding "fewer games" - scrap the mid season games anyway. I have always hated them, replays or no replays. There is so much pointless football that is played, the Nations League is another.
Nations league is pretty good actually especially the last 4. QUALITY
I'm a chelsea fan hope we win to day but not giving replays to efl teams is unfair to the teams and their supporters.
Horrific. Any small team drawing with a multi billion premier league deserves either a replay at both home for the huge gate receipts, or away and the whole town can go to an amazing away game. The premier leagues teams used to give the gate receipts to the visiting team. That money went a long way for a small team. I can only hope the small team giant slayers beat the bigger clubs in penalties. Premier league teams always moaning about the amout of games played yearly, they have the money for a A,B, and C teams. They dont have to field an A team. They could field a C team. To a premier league team, it may be nothing, but the small teams, and away game at liverpool, man u , aresnal etc is an event that will be with the fans for a lifetime.
It's all about money, that is what the premium League has done to the English game.
Darren’s right the smaller club should be able to pick
Support your local EFL side
Lowest placed club should choose the ground, not first drawn.
How the hell can you say its sensible to give different rules of a competion to prem clubs above and apart from other clubs in that said same competition. Bonkers
What if the Premier League were made to pay all the clubs from the lower divisions say 100k a pop instead of having replays in all competitions. Then it'd be a win win for everyone. Fixtures wouldn't be conjested, there'd be zero backlash as it'd be fairer, lower league clubs would get a financial benefit every year to help with costs and strengthen the pyramid as a whole. Win/Win.
Listen to Simon Jordan. I’d rather have the money guaranteed every year than a 1 in 10000 chance of a maybe fixture with an even smaller chance of replay for one club every year
The small clubs should be able to keep themselves going and not rely on handouts from the big clubs
That would be fine if all the Prem clubs finances were in the plus column. They aren't.
I've lost count. I thought replays were stopped from 3rd round already when the big boys come in.
Same people who complained about the superleague basically doing thesame thing
Completely agree with Darren Bent here, play it at the bigger stadium with a 50/50 split. why is it EFL teams in league 1&2 play a minimum of 51 games a season, They have less money, Less wages and never moan. Premier League is ruining the game in this country. EFL is way better for fans.
The more times passed the more the super league seems to make sense really. If you look how sports are run in America compared to the uk they are second to none. We need to catch up and fast. Why people feel the need to try and keep the game the way it was a hundred years ago when it has sadly moved way beyond that. Where seeing clubs disappear like Bury. Form a super league with promotion to and from the too leagues it springs an extra four slots ins one countrys for clubs to move up a tier and its all of an interest still and the moneys there
Yes Andy you are the best on talksport
Stop using a fake account Andy
People should boycott sky as well..
Just scrap the crappy international friendlies.. whats the point of them?? Don't give me this nonsense about "players need to get chemistry for the euro/world cup"... Fk all of that... Its a friendly... It means absolutely nothing
This is just like how the capitalistic economy works overall isn’t it. Greed everywhere you look. Unbelievable
Prem teams should be able to opt out of the Carabao Cup and keep FA Cup replays
The Prem would scrap the FA cup in a heart beat. The new owners just want money!!! No Cup mean more away matches in USA, Saudi, Super League etc. I can guarantee in the next few years, the Prem will argue why there is two cups? It’s too many games blah blah blah 😢
The magic has gone in football, this is just another knife in the back of the lower tier of football 😢
This is exactly the same with financial fair play rules though isnt it.
If only it was that easy
agree with goldstein...spot on
Keep replays, if clubs that qualify for Europe don't want replays then they don't need to be included in the FA Cup!
What exactly does Andy want? He wants big teams to use first team players in the FA cup, but when the FA makes a move to ensure big teams use their first team by making it only one match, he wants smaller teams to boycott the FA cup. Hmmm
Traditions evolve...n the big teams r the reason why we subscribe
So basically the smaller teams owners don’t want to win their matches they’re praying for a draw!! That’s not right
They would happily win but what's the chances of a team like Eastliegh winning against a premier league team though? their best case is an away game and a payday every time. When was the last time an EFL or Non league club won the FA cup?
Seen plenty of premier league matches where teams play for a draw 🤦
Of course they want to win. Because go into the next round. Rather go into the next round which is more money than a replay, because it guaranteed
Scrap VAR
Let's address all the points in turn - 1. The UEFA/FIFA argument. Clubs across the entire pyramid have international players. England, ran by the FA, do not have to play friendly matches if they don't want to. 2. "Top players are playing too many matches. We have to protect their welfare." Compared to their Football League counterparts, no, they are not. Furthermore, players further down the pyramid, who work another job, often have to cram lots of matches in a short space of time. Does player welfare not cpunnt three days after the Premier League finish, when some clubs are flying 17-19hrs to another continent to play a friendly? 3. "We are protecting grassroots football." Scrapping friendlies does not protect grassroots. It hinders them. Also, the local businesses and the uplift in profile that the towns, etc, get has not been considered. Absolute nonsense again and I do feel that the 712 clubs that werent consulted need to stand together and boycott the FA Cup.
Scrap replays and have all FA cup ties for PL teams as away games, problem sorted.
Just have each non premier league side the choice of venue, simple as that.
Clubs who'd rather go away, get thrashed and put out, all for a pot of money, frankly give the competition a bad name. No wonder it's not taken seriously
they do not giv a * about lesser teams!! the chance where might get to play against top team, make some money, amqzing day for fans!! disgusting