Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton III - Sept. 28, 1976 - Entire fight - Rounds 1 - 15
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Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton III
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Having knocked out George Foreman to become champion for the second time in 1974, Muhammad Ali was on top of the world and the greatest boxer of all time in most people's mind. The following year he stopped Joe Frazier in one of the most brutal fights in boxing history, but there was still one rival that had beaten him, Ken Norton. His victory over Norton in their 1973 rematch was not enough for Ali and the build-up to this fight was that Ken Norton would get knocked out.
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Their records at the time
Muhammad Ali: 52-2
Ken Norton: 37-3
I’ve watched this fight over and over, it’s a lot closer than I first remember. It’s definitely not the clear Norton victory that some people make it to be.
Ali won the fight.
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Right. The fight was watched live by a panel of 2 dozen boxing experts and the consensus among them was that the fight was a dead even draw. I'm inclined to agree.
Yeah, if it was a dead even draw, then why did Ali get the "win"? Please.@@Demonizer5134
Ive seen that fight a few times. Just watched again and I'd say Ali 8-6-1. Ali close early rounds Norton did nothing Ali had just more jabs that landed. Norton won last round and I think that's why they say he won it but no doubt ali beat him early on with jabs and Norton's swings didn't connect solidly.if you're going to go power you've got to connect solidly. It was close I could see a split decision but unanimous?
I was in attendance at Yankees Stadium for this fight. Quite the experience.
You were? Did you get robbed like most people did? The police were on strike that day!
@@nikolaivista920Ken was certainly robbed 😂
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@@ovuakporoyeabegha9816 I think so as well. Not taking anything away from Ali, but Norton was an absolute beast in there, and in my opinion, he definitely got the best of Ali.
@@ovuakporoyeabegha9816he just so close to beat Ali just didn't enough
These videos still as exciting as the day of the fight.
Everybody who fought Ali (in his prime ) and went till 15th Round is a Legend.
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This wasn’t his prime tho
@@brianjackson3031 FACTS! He still had some left in the tank here ,but he was past the prime yrs here.
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Boxing was its most popular during Muhammad Ali because he was so interesting
He wasn't interesting after the his Third Fight with Joe Frazier. Then it was becoming obvious that we have some brain damage being revealed here. And his handlers knew it and just wanted money. Look at those last fights against Holmes and Berbick. He looks brain injured from the start in each fight. But those fights went on regardless. Ali's handlers were scum by this point of the Ali - Holmes fight. The 2 Spinks fights were a disaster for his health.
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15 Rounds of Boxing! Without sitting between rounds!! Hard to believe this is for real. Unbelievable stuff, both Norton and an old version of Ali (GOAT) putting it out there.
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You gotta give it to Ali, he's probably one of the most entertaining boxers ever in the game, he always wanted audience participation and banter with his opponents, psyching them out any chance he could. I think any Ali fight would not be a waste of money,if the fight is boring😴 who wants to watch?. He was always a showman. Miss you Muhammad.
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@@doubler4064 Hey Door Knob Ali won based upon points scored Norton's constant aggression was ineffective when he's getting peppered with rightsa and lefts. Who had a mouse under one eye after the fight? Norton! Ali was unmarked!
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Imagine lasting for a minute with either one of these champs
Ali himself knew he lost and so did the world. The judges must have had money on Ali. A total disgrace to the sport.
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@@jamesband4400 Too hard to believe it was a counting error when its about the world title.
Muhammed Ali was.one of.a.kind, but wow, this was a savage fight. Deep respect for both of these legends.
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Ali and Norton are two of the greatest fighters of all-time. I grew up watching them and other greats. The 1960s and the 1970s are boxing's glory years. It was an amazing time to be a fan of boxing.
Amazing?.....they were beatings. In all three fights Ali would maybe won two or three rounds?
Ali lost that fight by at least 2 in my opinion
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Fighters never lose and losers never fight. Thank You Ali and Norton. Hearts of men.
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A medically ill man having slow speed and less power to fight standing against a young fighter thats Mohammah Ali the greatest of all time.❤️
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Wasn't this something, you can say what you like about either man but you can't take nothing from, just absolute legends, solids, intelligent, powerful, the courage during that era, 15 rounds it makes you respect them even more 40 years later.
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I can say both fighters showed a lot hard work and guts but the judges didn't show much brains.
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What were these 3 judges watching? Norton clearly won this fight! Can you say "The fix is in?"
The judges and commentator were favoring Norton throughout. A great fight by 2 champions. There's nothing or nobody fighting today who could compete with the class of heavies from that era. I'm honored to have seen it - to have lived thru it.
if the judges are favoring Norton in this fight, then he should've won. Clearly Ali robbed Norton here.
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I was there. Ken Norton WAS ROBBED big time. The judges favored Ali , who was anemic throughout
@@terrymayfield364 - That is cool! How much did u pay 4 ticket?
@@kpflo123 It was so long ago, but I think my 1976 upper deck ticket was about $25 , or $100 today. The stadium venue had a perfectly comfortable night for the fight. I'm still pissed off about the decision.
Thank you for the opportunity to review my memories ❤
pay attention to what the commentator said at the 15th and last round..? (""he said i think this could be the winning round.. who ever wins this round could win the Fight"").
I watched this fight as a little child, as Ali fights was a family thing. I was allowed to stay up. Watching it again here brought back memories. Miss my mother. She would talk about Ali like he was her personal friend. Dad was more reserved. Both loved Ali and he is and always will be the greatest.
Yes my dad loved Ali....he called him Cassius clay....
maybe one of the greatest but he definately lost this fight
I feel you. Lost my mother the very next year. 👊🏽
I have been a Muhammed Ali fan so long that He was my hero when his name was Cassius Clay. After Ali defeated Sonny Liston I remember seeing him fight Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams and knocking him out and Zola Folley before he was stripped of his Heavyweight Title in 1967. My greatest memory of Ali was when he stated his reason for being a Conscientious Objector to the war in Vietnam. I loved him all of my life and he was my greatest sports hero. But most importantly he was a real man who had Character, Honesty and Integrity. He stood up for what he believed in and he loved and supported his family and his wives both past and present. I thank Lord God Almighty for giving me and my people, regardless of color, race or religion, Muhammad Ali.
I'm from Germany, but always had a major respect for Muhammed. When I emigrated to the US in 1987 I met the man who in his youth was a heavy weight contender in boxing, my father-in-law Dennis Helps. He said that the most respected heavy weight boxer that ever existed is Muhammed Ali because he not only was man enough to fight the toughest heavy-weights in the world and beat them, but he also stood up to the evil government and refused to fight in an unlawful war in Vietnam! As a German immigrant I can appreciate that!
Best flurry of the Night by Ali in the 12th round, wish he did that more often
One of my best memories: I was blessed to have been at this fight as working press. Outside of work, I confess I was a fan of both fighters. The weigh-in (if memory serves) was at the Park Plaza. The thing I remember most that morning is Ali jabbering all through the weigh-in, and then Norton quietly dis-robing before getting on the scale; the crowd went near silent: all you could hear was an audible gasp from the hundreds of media, fans, and hangers-ons. A freakin' quiet Adonis he was. Ali, of course, was no slouch, but Norton was beyond physically intimidating. For the record, I had Norton winning on points, but it was an incredibly close fight, and a great fight to boot. Other strong memory: the NY police were on strike, and I remember watching people literally climbing over the walls of the stadium like so many ants to gain entrance. Even hours after the fight, negotiating my way out of the Bronx was nightmarish. Although I gotta admit now , a good nightmare . . .
I was sitting way up in the stadium that night and the late Dick Gregory was close by...I said I was worried for Ali as the fight went on and he told me "not to worry"....sharing that memory for you.
@@lordburlap4514 Great memory. Ali v Norton 76 is not the most exciting fight I have ever seen. But it is the most fascinating and the most beautiful to look at. The colours of a fall New York evening! Would LOVE to have been there. Best, D.
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Ali won. He's a long range fighter. He's the most scientific heavyweight boxer of all times. His punches were always on the mark and accurate. The judges give points based on that. Head shots count as 2 points. Body shots count as only 1 point. This not a bar brawl. Muhammed Ali is the greatest of all times.
Ali won
Cherokee Tom No it is Ali that beat the shit out of norton
He wouldn't have lasted four rounds with Marciano
Mike Price youre funny thats why 2 old men that weighed less than 190 lbs knocked Rocky off his feet, put Rocky in the ring with Foreman or Liston who Ali defeated & he wont last longer than 3 or 4 rounds.... no disrespect to Rocky but all his competition were light heavyweights or cruiserweights... he would have been a light heavyweight if he was boxing 30 years later..
Goldwing Pilot Ali lost with norton. 8-7 if you put all the benefits on Ali. The round 15 was for Norton cause Ali failed his 10 punches against him and received more punishment.
The " Thrilla in Manila " was death , for both Ali and Frazier as both of them ended up in the hospital immediately after that WAR .... an amazing brutal fight ! Here , Ken Norton gave Ali huge trouble with his awkward style , more so than any other fighter Ali faced. Unlike Foreman , Ali couldn't hurt him enough with one or two hard punches to set up the finish. Ali did not do here what he did in every previous " go the distance " fight and that was that he had the ability to turn up the heat in the latter rounds that could not be matched by his opponent. I would not be surprised if this was at or near the beginning of the onset even though as Tbiz pointed out in the comments that it wasn't until after the Ernie Shavers fight in "77 that Ali's Parkinson's was becoming more obvious. Ali looked excellent in the Shavers fight , and of course Ali called him " the Acorn ".
What? Did Ali go to hospital too? I didn't know that
Ali should have retired after the Foreman fight but like all fighters he needed to find that magic. Father time comes to any fighter.
@@stanleyjackson5963 I agree, and definitely retired after conquering the heavyweight belt 3 times when he danced and out scored Spinks for 15 rounds, he really should have called quits after that fight.
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@@stanleyjackson5963 The thing you love kills you sometimes. The Ali train had to keep rolling Pacheco, Bindini, Rachman, Youngblood Herber Muhammad, Howard Bingham and more were all part of what was called The Ali Circus.
To say this was a controversial fight is a gross understatement. Norton seemed to do most of the work and connected with Ali's head and body in many more rounds. No wonder Norton was reduced to tears.
Norton was wrongly advised by his corner that he was ahead on the judges scorecards and so he shud just see the final round out and not take any risks. In fact the fight was level going into the last round and norton's safety first approach in the final round cost him the fight and with it the world title
@@LeighRichards27he was ahead though in anyone's scorecard but the judges.
@@LeighRichards27 Norton won the 15th round. He landed all the power punches while Ali danced and missed almost every left jab and punch he threw.
I honestly don’t blame him. From my point of view I think Norton won all 3 of their fights. The first one was the most obvious, the second one could have gone either way I had I had Norton winning 6-5 (thought they drew in the 9th/10th) and this one I believed he won it
@@LeighRichards27That’s the reason why you should never think (I am ahead) no one knows who is actually ahead until the results are read.
15 rounds and they didn't sit down not ONCE. Today's fighters don't come close.
Ali had 57 fights and 36 of them were won by knockouts - he fought the best that ever stepped in the ring (Sony Liston, Floyd Patterson, Zora Folly, Terrel , Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Ernie Shavers, Leon Spinks, Oscar bonavina) What are you talking about ?
He knocked out Foreman, a man who easily had more power than any of the current boxers.
@@bain6655 He did not knock out foreman. Foreman was tired and off balance. Foreman said he was told not to listen to the ref count but to look at the corner, he looked but go no answer and he got up too late. This is crystal clear on the video. Stop making crap up.
Spotted Bullet Maybe so, still technically a knockout though.
@@bain6655 Technically, you're right. =)
I met Norton in Las Vegas 2011...such a humble guy. RIP
Yes Ken Norton was a humble man - Just as much as Ali was a loud mouth ! Two opposite type personalities !
@@hollywoodjoe123 you don't really know anything about Ali do you?
@@hollywoodjoe123Ali was a great humanitarian and ambassador for the sport of boxing. Would stay for hours signing autographs and doing magic tricks with kids.
The challenger was not able to knock Ali down Hence Ali still the champ
That should have been the Great Ali's last fight.. The Boxing League should have stepped in at this point and retired his Belt.. I will always honor that man for his legacy.. And I salute Ken Northern for all his accomplishments... Unforgettable"Great Fighter" But Muhammad Ali was one of kind inside and outside the ring. ✊
Whether Ali won or lost this fight, it doesn't diminish anything from the fact that he had heart. Norton's style was all wrong for him but Ali still rematched him twice with the second rematch (third fight w/ Norton) being at the back end of his career. Ali was nowhere near the same person after Manila. All his speed, reflexes, stamina, timing, etc., were shot. This wasn't the ideal time to fight Norton but he went ahead with it anyway.
I can’t imagine a fourth match with Kenny.
@@Mikey12396 it almost happened, there’s rumors (and Ken Norton believes) that Ali purposefully lost the Spinks 1 fight so he could dodge the mandatory challenger which at the time was Ken Norton, which when thinking about it even though it’s not of Ali’s character to duck someone I could see why he would do that.
Ali would never duck a opponent. He had to much heart, and to much respect for himself and the sport of boxing. He just took Spinks lightly and didn't train hardly at all. Plus Spinks as well as everyone whoever fought Ali always brought their A Game. Just like in any sport, NBA champs are going to get the best out of every team they play the next season. As well as the Super Bowl champ.
@@davidrobinson9034 fair enough, I dont believe it which is why I said it's not Ali's character but I could see the truth behind it, everytime he fought Ken Norton he'd have to train himself to death, at 36 i doubt he wanted to or even had the ability to train like that anymore.
I saw an interview nearly thirty years ago with George Foreman. Foreman said in that interview after the third Ali/Norton fight that Ali actually called him because the championship committee was wanting him to fight Norton for a fourth time and Ali told Foreman that he just didn’t think he could beat Norton. Not at this stage of his career. One of the other respondents in this thread mentioned that Ali might have thrown the Spinks fight to avoid yet another match with Norton. I had not heard that theory before nor even considered it. But while I don’t think it’s true, I can imagine it did cross Ali’s mind. For whatever reason, Norton’s style was just such a puzzle to Ali.
Different fighters react to different styles. Ken Norton gave Ali more problems than even Frazier, and Foreman ABSOLUTELY ANNHILATED both Frazier and Norton. Going back to peak 1966 Ali. George Chuvalo, who Ali called the toughest of the tough, gave Ali all he could handle AND he took the fight at short notice without even training.
Well done you just explained triangle arguments don’t work
I like your analysis Charles. What would help me in ranking my all time top 10 are three fights that never happened. 1) Norton vs Frazier and the date is important. Before 75 or after 76. 2) Foreman and Norton around the time in 77 when Foreman fought Jimmy Young. 3) Foreman and Holmes (just for lineage sake)
If you watch Ali vs Chuvalo 1-15 all the rounds in 1966, it was not a close or tough fight. Ali won just about every round.
@@iamtman1 A Chuvalo who did not train for the fight.
@@charleshammer2928 Chuvalo trained enough. Wouldnt have made a shred of difference. He fought once a month back then practically, and his style was one dimensional. Ali also had his training constantly interrupted at the time. Don't forget he was originally sched to fight Terrell at the time and due to the draft controversy it was cancelled and Ali had to leave the US just to get a fight. So his training was affected as well. It was still a shutout over 15 rounds pretty much despite Chuvalo's toughness.
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The 70s Ali was a totally different breed to the 60s version. He was faster and more nimble on his feet in the 60s, but in the 70s he was so much tougher and seemingly made of granite
Yep. Champion heart.
In the 60s Cassius clay was young minded and in the 70s Ali was awoken,
It seems as if he was all for speed and agility in his youth. And as he got older he it's almost like he abandoned agility and 40 % speed for a granite body
@@mayoayo001 he was slowing down after thrilla in Manila in 1975. He took a lot of punishment and wasnt the same anymore. Loses speed. Power and reflexes
@@boxeolocopunch762 I feel like Ali's prime faded after 1975 and not after the 3-year ban like what others say.
There comes a point in a boxers life where it's time to retire and Ali went way past that point
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he did i felt sorry for Ali when he fought Holmes!
This 76 he's 34 in the last year of his great prime. Check the record my people
Talk about stamina. Ali is dancing in the 15th round!!
At worse, this was 7-7-1, a draw. It you look closely, Ali took a lot of Norton’s shots on the arms and hips. Neither are scoring blows. Turn the sound off where those two morons were salivating over Kenny and look at it objectively.
Interview with Mark Cronin October 1976: "Kenny’s style is too difficult for me. I can’t beat him, and I sure don’t want to fight him again. I honestly thought he beat me in Yankee Stadium, but the judges gave it to me, and I’m grateful to them." - Muhammed Ali. Still the greatest. But he won the fight by virtue of being Muhammed Ali - the peoples Champion.
At the press conference, Norton wore sunglasses to hide his black eye and his other eye that was bruised underneath. Ali had no marks on his face. Looked like he had just finished playing racquet ball. Usually the guy who looks beat up is the loser!
I honestly thought! The word thought. I thought I lost my money. No, here it is. 15th round, Norton did nothing in the 15th round. Then with 20 secs to go he decides to do something. Sorry bro. Norton lost the 15th round and the fight. Turn off the sound of the losers talking. Plain to see Ali Won 8-6-1. Loved seeing Norton's puffed up face the next day. The Ali Jab will do that.
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These trash commentators were totally in Norton's camp!!! Ali won that fight. Even Norton said that in his Autobiography!
Ali is the winner without a single doubt... Only great experts know it.
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At 55:42 when the commentator says : "well there is a saying Ali is not afraid of anything" Just made my heart so happy The legend Mohammad Ali ❤️ The way he dance hehe and even chill during a match 😅 makes it more interesting. Haven't seen such a champion like Mohammad Ali and won't be able to see cause he was the only one ❤️ This match is 46 years old but still makes me feels so good and I'm proud of Mohammad Ali Proud that he was a Muslim
Ali is my favorite boxer but it was plan to see who won this match
He wasn't afraid even when Norton broke Ali's jaw in '73
Ali lost that badly!! Another rigged fight by da boyz!! 😱
Ali was overrated....a clown
He was a clown from the beggining
I remember meeting Ken Norton when I jumped started his classic car. Back in the late 80's, he trained at Ken Waller's Pacifica Health Spa. I also remembered when both Ken Norton Jr. trained with his Dad Ken. RIP Ken Norton Sr. Humble man like him are rare nowadays!
haha. yeah, got to love and admire Ken Norton sr..
You have to watch this fight with the volume OFF. Seen this fight a few times and I can never give Norton more than 6 rounds. Ali fought pretty well at this late stage in his career. He was in excellent shape. Norton just didn't do enough. They both had a lot of respect for each other.
You gave Norton more rounds than I could. I only gave Norton 4 rounds. He got wiped out by a washed up Ali.
Robert Mahfouz. I wonder what norton said to Ali at end of last round.?
Ali is not in excellent shape pal. Look at these photos here and compare it to an earlier Ali.
For those of us that followed Ali from the beginning, it’s incredible how he had deteriorated. This bullshiit of allowing himself to be clobbered in the middle of the ring (a version of the rope a dope) compared to the young genius of the first champion reign, is glaring. Retirement after The Rumble with Big George would have been perfect. It still hurts to know how things turned out.
@@marklennox2151 I thought boxing is about beating opponents. Alas its about speaking.
@@IkramKhan-pv5vm This fight was extremely controversial hence all the discourse.
@@marklennox2151 If you look closely, Ali landed many jabs and head shots. Like 4:1 for thundering blows of norton to body. If norton wanted to win fight this way, he had to knock ali out. He clearly lost.
@@IkramKhan-pv5vm I respect your opinion and you are entitled to it but you are in the minority. Ali had a few good moments but they were few and far between. The 5th round where Ali guaranteed a knockout is really all you have to see. This thread just proves my point about how controversial this bout was. I gave to Norton 11-4.
@@marklennox2151 kindly tell me which rounds went to norton which to ali. Lemme analyse again.
Ali disappointed & insulted most of us his fans. He was a pure clown. While Ali murked around most of the first 7 rounds as if he was doing an exhibition, Kenny Norton showed up for business. Norton was the technician & the businessman. To most, the better fighter was Norton. Over confidence killed Ali. In obvious desperation, he opened up his mosquito jabs & punches in the last 2 rounds with no effect on Norton. As they say, defeat often sits squarely in the jaws of haughty victory. Ali is my man, but in this fight, Norton was the winner & the new Heavy weight Boxing Champion😢
That crazy, Norton clearly won this fight
It's not clear to me. I think it was pretty even.
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I absolutley loved Muhammad Ali.He was one of my all time favorite athletes.But lets keep it real.The judges gift wraped this one and handed him this fight on a silver platter.R.I.P. Kenny.You were a hell of a fighter.
Bullshit.
Ken Norton gave Ali a hard time but he was not a great fighter. He got whacked by some bums
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There were a few fights Ali was given towards the end of his career
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Interesting to see Marine Corporal Leon Spinks in the ring, he had just won the Gold Medal in the summer Olympics (and brother Michael won the Gold at middleweight), and no one there would've foreseen Leon beating Ali two years later.
Great fight, no doubt, but I really had to give the fight to Norton. I have to say though, I give Ali a ton of credit, that man could take a punch! Almost every punch Norton threw, it sounded like someone took a bat to a heavy bag. Not taking anything away from Norton either. He took some heavy punches from Ali and just laughed them off most of the fight. You just don't see 15 rounds with that kind of intensity anymore. Ahhh, the good ole' days, you gotta love em'!
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@@matiusbond6052 Agreed. You are totally correct regarding the 15th round!
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I agree with George Foreman. Ali never really got the better of Ken Norton.
Ali quote: "Kenny's style is too difficult for me. I just can't beat him."
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Reminds me of Marquez to Pacquiao. Marquez's style was too difficult for Pac
Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time. However, he fought here way, way past his prime and Norton was essentially still in his prime. At worst for Norton, the fight should have gone 8-7 for Norton (and more like 9-6 if you don't allow for an even round). If you look at how the corners were reacting between rounds (especially after the 10th round and most obviously after the 15th), they felt Ali had clearly lost the fight. Indeed, the rounds that Norton won he won by a much wider margin that those won by Ali. However, this was a rounds -- not points -- based system, so an Ali "victory" of 8-7 was not unthinkable, despite not appearing to be justified. That being said, when the crowd, Ali's corner and Norton's corner all appeared to draw the same conclusion (that Norton won), it is very odd that all three judges scored a close fight on points unanimously 8-7.
Ali will always be my favorite fighter. Close fight. I thought Norton won it by a round. If it's really close, the defending champion always retains. It's like they start the fight with a round in their pocket.
If you say Norton won the fight by a round & Ali, as the champ, starts off w/ one round in his pocket, then according to your logic the fight should have been called a draw, not a W for Ali. BTW - Norton easily won that fight. He came to do battle, while anemic Ali came to survive.
@@terrymayfield364 lotta Ali fanboys on here trying to explain away the L and the robbery. Same with Tyson fanboys
@@MC-yq6us Ali has been overhyped and overrated ever since Sonny Liston was told to take a 1st round dive in Lewiston, Maine, 1965. Ali was a good boxer, not one of the a great ones, but had the charisma higher ups wanted.
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@@MetalSword95 I think Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield (2X), Lennox Lewis and Frank Bruno would disagree with that. Tyson was the youngest HW champ, but not the best.
this fight really gives you some amazing insight into the rocky films. You can see direct scenes taken from this fight and the ali/frazier.
Must know that Ali lost his best 4 years. He refused to go to Vietnam. He was right.
Strange how he was so different from a young healthy fighting style
I hope that you will search for Islam until you achieve the true victory. The true loss is that you die not knowing your Lord or that you worship creatures characterized by the characteristics of helplessness.
Muhammad Ali will always be the GOAT, Not only as a boxer, but as a human being. He stood firm on his beliefs and lost very important years of his prime because of his beliefs, and yet, once the supreme court ruled to free him, he still held no grudges. We can learn a lot from Ali. Rest In Peace great sir.
Muhammad Ali also celebrated the assassination of Malcolm X. Its on video of him jumping around and celebrating with Louis Farrakhan at the Nation of Islam saviors day convention on February 27 1965. As Elijah Muhammad said that Malcolm is a hypocrite who got what he deserved. Ali was going to accept military induction because they had told him that he would see no combat. And Ali would remain heavyweight champion. And was free to defend his title. But Elijah Muhammad told him not to accept.He did not stand firm on his beliefs. But backed down to his cult leader Elijah Muhammad. Not wanting to end up like Malcolm X. In actuality he wouldn’t stand up to Elijah Muhammad. You need to do some research Joker.
@@5star64 How much money did you lose not betting Ali? 😁😁
@@yuu9258 I won money. I bet that Ali would grab and hold and clinch over 100 times during the fight. And he did.
I'm a Christian, but he had to obey his leader...stop judging. We're all hypocrites about one thing or another, which makes us human.
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Ali is the best very smart boxer I will miss him very much
I love ken Norton's voice
God that was so awesome, and the interview afterwards was fantastic too. Big credit to big George even though he was out thought he was a beast . In the year's after he showed a lot of class when always giving credit to Muhammad who was a cut above .
Ken Norton showed he was a cut above Ali that night.
@@neganrex5693 oh that's why he won right?
My apologies, I had been on a discussion with someone about the Forman/Ali matchup. I just noticed and realized you were talking about Norton/Ali. I probably saw all of these when they happened. I always respected everyone of these fighters in their day. Norton had his own style and it seemed to work well for him. Ali, Norton, Forman, Frasier, all of those guys, wanted to take down Ali. He was the feather in their cap, so to speak, in that era. Not necessarily, a cut above regarding Forman and Ali, he just took a beating against the ropes until Forman wore himself out, and then he wasn't as tired and was able to have more energy after Forman was exhausted. If Forman would have stood in the middle of the ring and waited for Ali to come to the center of the ring to fight it would have ended differently and Ali knew that, but George and his coach did not figure that out, and maybe they still haven't, but I believe it probably would have ended differently. I'm not 100% sure, but I am close to 75% confident of what I believe would have happened, but I will give the 25% possibility that I may be wrong, because Ali, was very hard to get a direct hit on. He was capable of moving in and out on an opponent faster than anyone that I can remember. They were both great competitors and I admired their skills and their abilities to endure the training and mental strategy it takes to make it 3 minutes at a time with a worthy heavy weight boxer. All of those men were amazing atheletes and deserve to be recognized for their contributions to the sport of boxing. P.S. I am glad that they have rules to help protect the safety of the boxer. I want to see it as a sport, not as a blood bath. This is not the Roman Colesium, where they watched people die. God help us if we ever accept that type of inhumane cruelty to another human. Bruises that you can get over in a few days or weeks of healing is bad enough, and pushing the envelope.
If this was prime Ali, i swear to you Ken Norton would ve quit boxing right then and there.
agreed cassius clay would have ripped norton up
He fought Norton twice before at 31 years old. He lost once and barely won the second time. Norton had his number then too.
Ken Norton would have given Muhammad Ali an extremely difficult fight even if Ali had been in his prime during the three fights they fought against each other because of Norton's very awkward style!
@@michaelbarlow6610 yeah your right Ken norton will give difficulty. Show fatigue and signs of it being too difficult for him when prime Ali steps in the ring.
Norton was a damn boxer he spent most of the time nodding is head like a lizzard
It is obvious that ali is a clean boxer he nevergoes to the body or the kidneys of his opponents.thats gives him credit towards the judges.rest in peace Ali boxing died when u left king.
For me Muhammad Ali remains the heaviest and greatest fighter of all times! That's why when he beats his opponents, they would opt to have a rematch, thinking that they were robbed, and because of disbelief that they have lost the fight! In this fight; Ken Norton threw many punches, of which most of them did not reach the target and some would just hit Ali's gloves, thus, deceiving some of us that they did land, when actually they didn't! The judges gave the right verdict of the fight, I would like to commend them for that. Thanks
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Today's heavyweights will never be spoken about in the future like these greats.
Harry Carpenter, the British commentator we see at the end, was always a man of supreme integrity. If he thought Norton clearly won the fight then that view must be respected.
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Just watch the fight, man.
I watched this fight very closely. I scored the fight 8 rounds Ali, 7 rounds Norton. I gave rounds 14 and 15 to Norton. There's a saying that says, "In order to be the champion, you have to beat the champion." On this night in Yankee Stadium, Ken Norton just did not beat Muhammad Ali. Ali was obviously past his prime in this fight, and Norton still couldn't beat him, let alone beat him up.
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exactly and I gave 15 to ALI
I don’t see how you could give 15 to Norton.
15th to Ali.
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The greatest of all time. Pound for Pound he was the best I ever saw.
I had that 144 - 141 to Ken Norton. It was a close fight, so I'm not too surprised Ali got the W but I dunno how he got a UD here, lmfao!!!
just count the punches round for round ali won more rounds then they even gave him, id say Nortan didn't win more than 4 or 5 tops, its punch count really that the point, norton doesn't even really hit that hard, uses mainly upper body and torsoe.
Ali wasn't the same after Frazier 3 in late 1975. The Parkinson's didn't really start showing until after Shavers in late 77 imo. However, with that said, observing his actions and small details here it seems to me it was starting to manifest. Something was beginning to be a little off compared to the Frazier fight from the year before. Not just his ring performance, it seemed in his overall body language.
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Mmmm.. I'm a massive Ali fan.. However I think Norton won this
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you are right , his staring look at the enterance to this fight was the early parkinson signs
Old and slow as Ali was, he still won this fight. Those who claim Norton won the last round were not watching very closely as punches landed. In any case, a young Ali would have put Norton to sleep within a few rounds. If they hadn't taken three and a half years away from Ali, he would have walked through everyone, and he would have fought Frazier only once, because he would have beaten him so convincingly that there would have been no demand for a rematch.
Nothing to add to that except that I agree. You have to watch closely and see how many punches Norton landed on gloves, not Ali's face. He did great body work, no doubt. I had it 8-7, giving all 3 rounds I felt were close to Norton. Change one of those rounds and it's 9-6, so easily a UD, the decision was correct. And you're spot on, if this fight takes place in 1967 it looks like the Cleveland Williams fight
Yeah Norton couldn't fuck with him when he was younger
ALI WAS NOT THE GREATEST HE LOST MOST FIGHTS BUT THE JUDGES GAVE HIM THE WIN ,YOU KNOW WHY?BECAUSE HE WAS ALI!!LOL!
@@sherrillraymond7595 Norton beat Ali not because of his speed it was his style that threw Ali off so at any age Ali would have lost ,it's that simple!
@@rexrexrex67 no he wouldn't have loss at any age that man gave Norton a run at that age so you know about so you know about fighting him at his best
Ali lost a lot that day He was not happy to have won. He knew it was one fight too many, and his Parkinson's disease would be diagnosed some time later. In 2016, the world lost a human being with an extraordinary personality and immense charisma, who was at once candid, joking, intelligent and handsome. His message of peace is universal. It won't be long before we see such a complete athlete on this earth. RIP
Back then I leaned for Norton winning this - at worst, a draw. ... I admired both back then, and still do. ... Now, with the hindsight of years while reviewing the fight, I find myself surprisingly giving the bout to Ali. .. Norton spent most of the time brawling, but with no serious damage on Ali. But, Ali, though no serious damage on Norton, definitely controlled the pace and the flow of the fight.
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Bullshit this is the greatest robbery in Boxing ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ali got a tarnished W. He also won as a golden punching bag.
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I had it 6 rounds Ali, 6 rounds Norton, 3 rounds even. A "Draw". And Ali retained his title rightfully. Norton landed some hard shots for sure but Ali landed far more punches. Kenny Norton was a top 5 guy from that era. ALI was #1 , FRAZIER #2 , FOREMAN #3 , NORTON #4 , QUARRY #5.
Forman was probably the strongest among them,he smashed Norton and Frazier(twice),Ali fought smart against George and won,but had they fought for the second time,it wouldn’t be easy for Ali,that’s why Ali never gave him a second chance.
@golipasi .... what don't you understand about what I wrote. I couldn't have been clearer. For that era that's how I ranked the top 5 heavyweights. Read more and your comprehension will grow.
@@aleksthegreat4130 I would dispute the fact that George was the stronger, there are many different kinds of strength. If you watched his fight with Ali you would see how easily Ali pushed and pulled him around the ring. What George did have was a very large frame and a long reach with knockout power in both hands, which granted him the ability to fight in a forward leaning stance so that he could use his long reach to keep his opponents at bay and off balance while continuing to follow through with his punching power. This is how Joe Frazier couldn't get close enough to land his big left. Also Joe only fought one way and could not adapt to Georges style of fighting. Also Ken Norton's style of defense was based on punches coming straight at him, Ken could not adapt to Georges wide swinging powerful punches. Ali was the only one who had the adaptability to defeat George.
@@aleksthegreat4130 Foreman wasn't stronger than Ali, he had much stronger punching power yes, but Ali manhandled Foreman the whole fight. Frazier was every bit as strong if not stronger than George but the reach advantage and knockout power Foreman had was too much for Joe because he knew no other way of fighting but to go into his man. As for Norton strength did not come into the fight, Norton's awkward cross arm defense didn't work well against George's wide swinging punches and he could not adapt. Only Ali had the ability to change the rhythm and flow of the fight enough to throw Foreman's fight off kilter.
@@spirgtudsrubec7776 I would not agree he manhandled him , he played rope a dope and foreman fell for it and punched himself out .
The ref says 5 sec and immediately the bell rings when Ali looked in trouble.
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A close fight. Norton gave Ali a tough fight no doubt but I don't get where Norton's corner got too overconfident that he had won the fight. I didn't see Norton CONVINCINGLY beaten Ali to take away the title from him.
I didn’t either. The announcers were building up a Norton win but I just didn’t see it. Ali had bursitis in both his hands at this point and while his punches were not heavy they were still accurate. It was close but the announcers were spewing nonsense.
The white commentary man was biased against Ali.
It takes a lot of courage to fight someone as powerful as Norton and someone who has broken your jaw in the first fight. Ali had balls of steel
When they're paying you millions of dollars that helps too lol
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@@dudecall6279 He's not wrong.
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@@dudecall6279 Ali had a lot of children and was going through a divorce at that time. It was eating him up financially.
Norton's style was awkward and was physically stronger than Ali, made life very difficult in all 3 fights, although his crab style was no match for Foreman cause he was stronger of the two ...
It’s crazy how unfair judgement has prevailed in boxing! Even a blind man could tell that Ken Norton won the fight straight up. No mistakes about it. I wonder weather the judges sometimes just decide to side with the more popular guy or they really do their job for what it is. The judges were just a disgrace. Respect to the both fighters after all.
NOW I SEE WHAT MAYWEATHER WAS SAYING... KEN WON ALL THREE FIGHTs
I see why Floyd took care of himself and put defense at the top of his skill sets.
He absolutely did not lol. He lost all but 1, the first.
1. No he didn’t, you could argue Ali won all 3. We just weren’t used to seeing him fight so defensively but he basically fought Norton the way mayweather fought everyone he ever faced 2. Of course mayweather hates Ali, he’s not gonna like someone that actually fights the top contenders instead of ducking them until they’re too old the way Floyd did
@soundwavethechristian4060 come on Ali clearly lost this one. I think Ali won the second fight by a slim margin
@@anthonyscrima8900exactly! Very well said. Floyd is just delusional if he thinks hes somewhere near Ali. No one is even close to that man
Ali can still dance around the ring at the end of the fight! Legendary!!
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He danced like 2.5 rounds. Shell of himself right here.
What norton does is way more impressive
Muhammad Ali: 1. Round 4 because Ali was busier but Norton just hit harder. 7,9,11. Round 12 was very close but I gave it to Ali because he hurt Norton at the end of the round. Ali clearly won the 15th and last round, which makes him the winner. Draw: 10. Round 13 Norton was a bit wild but Ali still scored. Norton: 2,3,5,6,8,14
Thing is in a title fight you have to beat the champ decidedly to take his title. Norton didn’t do that!
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I love to watch Ali fight but the fact that he did not give an interview after the fight speaks volumes. He knew he did not beat Norton. But to beat the champion you just about have to knock him out. Great fight.
That's the way it's always been...
Norton got robbed! He CLEARLY won this fight. Ali never knocked him down, didn't hurt him and Norton scored more real blows.The only reason I can figure that they gave it to Ali was that it was good for boxing to have Ali as champ because he drew people in. But come on! At best you could call this fight a draw. Ali certainly didn't win. This was a fix, a rigged fight.
42 rounds of boxing three fights to the finish and neither man was able to knock the other one to the canvas, unbelievable, SMDH to these two great Warriors.
Defensive skills of both fighters was just off the charts incredible. Both just amazing and blocking and slipping punches.
Ummmm Muhammad Ali Hardley knock anyone out after the layoff
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Ken Norton Clearly won this fight...
Rip Ken Norton u r ,1 of the goat
I attended that fight at Yankee stadium. Upon entering the ring, Ken Norton was cheered, as he was a popular and talented warrior. We then waited some minutes for Ali to show and when he did, the crowd went wild with noise and applause. During the fight, Norton always pressed forward and Ali often retreated into his cocoon versions of rope a dope, offering an anemic offense throughout. Norton was never truly challenged, never in danger. Ali spent the fight blocking as many punches as he could and it was obvious to all that Norton carried the fight forward much more effectively . However, the putrescent 'judges' gave the ridiculous decision to Ali anyway. THE CROWD, INCLUDING MYSELF AND FELLOW COHORTS, BOOED LOUDLY AND LONG. Ken Norton was blatantly robbed of his obvious victory. Everyone left the stadium completely disgusted.
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To this day you still have Ali fans in the comments trying to take the victory away from norton
Exactly ! I’ve been trying to tell people, you have to dethrone the champ !
Ali's best attribute in later years was his amazing ability to absorb such brutal punches, Norton, Shavers, Foreman, Frazier...kinda sad actually.
He sacrificed his body to protect his head..
Cost Ali in the long run though, didn't it? Did a right number on his brain, taking in all those shots. What's the point of being World Heavyweight Champion, if it's going to turn you into a cabbage in the long run?
I always said Ali greatest asset was his ability to take a punch without that ability he would have lost more fights Foreman would have won against Ali in Africa!
Yup, led to the Parkinsonism
@@jacobdrollinger4802no it never if that were true where all the other champion fighters with Parkinson god people
When Ali fought it was a huge spectacle in the 70s
Norton got robbed
The announcers really missed a good fight.
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Ken Norton was one of the few that had Muhammad Ali's number..
Ali quote: "Kenny's style is too difficult for me. I can't beat him and I certainly don't want to fight him again. I honestly believe he beat me in Yankee Stadium but the judges gave it to me and to them I am thankful. "
@@marklennox2151 how the fuck do you know he wasn't being sarcastic🤣
@Mr President Let me correct you. According to Wikipedia 'Ali said during an interview with Mark Cronin in October of 1976: "Kenny's style is too difficult for me. I can't beat him and I sure don't want to fight him again. I HONESTLY believe he beat me in Yankee Stadium, but the judges GAVE it to me and to them I am grateful".' The audio of Ali's sincere remarks are available to all including those that prefer to deny facts and live in a world of unicorns and fairy dust.
@@zakumarji5648 Because he used the word 'honestly' in his belief.
@Johnatan Hinojos Just looking at the facts junior.
Forget personalities Norton won at least 9 rounds there, absolute robbery.
I grew up in Jacksonville, Illinois where Norton was from. Got to meet him and his son, Ken Jr at a restaurant one time. These guys were giants.
He has been my inspiration since I was a schoolboy. 🥊🇺🇸
Same here, waaay back in 72 or 73 he came to grocery store in our neighborhood. Me and my friends were hanging outside, he talked to us and play boxed with a few of us like we were special. The Greatest by far.
@@skinnyman1434 thanks for sharing your story man. I think that’s awesome. I wasn’t that lucky back then there was no internet we had tv and the fights were rare. I remember my mother woke me up in the middle of the night it was 1974 the fight Rumble in the Jungle I was just a boy. Muhammad Ali has always been my hero. 🥊🇺🇸
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These are the same words Trevor Berbick told about Muhammad Ali after his last match. Incredible!