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0:00 Microcenter Pays What For The 4090
1:38 GPUs Are Disappearing
4:22 New Ryzen CPU Series Announced
7:26 New GPUs Are Coming
less than half? at 36% we call that a touch over a third
Half is 50 and 36 is less than 50 and your listening skills are in need of help, Because it was "way less than half"
@@hellfire5670 no it was just "less than half"
@@hellfire5670 you a kid?, he meant that it is technically true and it is also over selling, you can say it is less than a 100% and it will be true but it misses the mark way off.
@@rando39621:30
0:23 Microsoft buys gpus??😮
Microcenter not microsoft
@@andythebrave nah bro he said Microsoft didn't u hear??
they just permanently attach ads to it and sell it for double what they paid :)
@@andythebrave yea it's Microsoft ... be careful tho... your GPU might start buying up all the farmland and shaming you into taking experimental drugs and giving out medical advice in spite of NEVER GETTING A SINGLE DEGREE. oh and don't forget that it'll also talk A LOT about forced depopulation of the planet. like, I mean A LOT 😳 A SCARY LOT!
ima call Bill Gates ASAP
Microcenter pulling a full gamestop
As good as MicroCenter is don't forget they are not different compared to stores like newegg which is doing the same practice they want you to get the least money possible out of your trades anyways every program of stores's trade should be avoided.
Trade in anything has always been a scam, look at car dealerships and pawn shops. That's where the whole "best I can offer" meme comes from
@@rodiculous9464 truth
Unless the card is on its last legs, it's just a bad value to trade it in. But like others have said you're not fully expected to trade it in. You can get more money out of ebaying it, but you pay for that with time and effort and the possible hassle of the card either breaking in transit or you get scammed by the buyer. If you walk into a brick and mortar and want someone to just take it off your hands sight-unseen, don't expect to also get the kelly blue book value. They have to take the risk that the card you've given them is a buggy piece of crap. Most people selling used current-gen cards are doing so because there's something wrong with them.
They offered less than a "FOR PARTS" broken 4090 goes for on ebay. 😂
Correct but there is no guarantee of selling the 4090 on eBay.
@@jimbodee4043🤓
That 4090 for 1300, is that before or after melting? If I got a 4090 for free I would sell it, no way I install a firerisk in my house.
RIP any spiders vibin in you're basement or attic or those in the corner with a web getting silly.
Yea people that cant plug their gpu in properly definitely shouldnt be buying a 1600$ gpu.
@annebokma4637 i'd straight up throw it in the trash cause i got my reputation to loose when selling such lowly hardware...
MicroCenter offered $248 for my RTX 3070 Ti, which is gently used (practically brand new) and still in the original box. I bought it from them for $700 2 years ago. I took my card and told them to stuff it.
Amazon recently had a fire sale of AMD 7900 XT GPUs going for $400 and something.
@@AwesomeBlackDude That was a scam company posing as a real one. Sad
That's a fair price, tbh, you can buy open box/new for 350$. Absolutely not comparable to 600$ 4090.
@@fartcruncher98 Wait what?!? You mean I can't do a RMA re-shipment? 😳
Why does it say refresh in the slide? an why is one source saying 9000?
"as you can see right here its says Microsoft" Sir that clearly says "Microcenter"
Having switched to Linux for a few years now as my main OS, my next GPU upgrade will definitely be from AMD 'coz they have better Linux support than NVIDIA. 👍
What about mother board socket for the new Ryzen 9950 cpu
last time i checked newegg was offering $1500 for a 4090 with their trade in program
please use some add-on for turning webpages dark, it's 6:00 pm here and the screens hurt eyes pretty bad
Thank you for removing the music in the end. Your voice is much clearer
Question: why do we need an npu if gpus can do AI just fine?
I wonder how good they would be for gaming as a multiuse pc (gaming, ai work, content creation) 8000pro Ai
Great video. I will wait and see what happens with all of the " Upcoming " hardware.
Anybody ever watch Pawn Stars? GPU's take a fairly large depreciation hit as soon as the seal on the box is broken. In the show, Rick typically likes to offer around half of what he thinks he can resell an item for. That's how he makes money. Why do people sell stuff to him so cheap? Speed and convenience.
Ran into that issue with a new GPU. Almost got a 6800XT for 550 bucks, but change to a 7800XT for 530 bucks. Plus it will fit the case better than the 6800XT.
People underestimate the influence of a GPU fit. Same reason I got 7800xt.
i got a 7800xt i got to clock to 3.25 ghz on a custom waterblock i milled out no temp limit but it pulled 469 watts way to much power for the amount of leds going into the card
They swapped the control unit in the cpu for a neural processing unit, which is the next level of sophistication for that particular plant in the processor.
Be interesting to see desktop rdna 3.5. Don't know if that makes sense from AMD's point of view or even our POV. but I'm curious.
Microcenter offering 699$ for a 4090 to me is a hint that the 5090 is going to release at the same price point and offer 70% more power as the leaks suggest. I'm glad I picked mine off of Amazon with extended warranty, it's almost time to bring out the GPU hammer I guess.
I was a bit confused by the title, says world first ryzen, but they've been out there for some time now, but I realized it was the first "Ryzen Pro" maybe? :0
What would the graphics in games would be if you combine a apu and a gpu to more power
That trade in value is actually more than I'd expect- I figure it'd be around 400-500. I'd rather sell on ebay.
Last year I bought my RX 6800 for AUD$525 of eBay. It was an ex-mining GPU. Still going strong today. I game at 1440p. I skipped Ngredia due to their pricing and their mandated 12V connector. I'm sticking with team red for now...hoping Intel improves on their discreet GPUs in the future, cheaper price/performance (here's hoping). I'm waiting for high performance APUS to come out so I can build a loungroom gaming pc without the need of a full GPU.
So atleast the desktop Ryzen PRO 4000 Series got a successor with NPUs, eh?
0:23 Microcenter*
Micro Center is following that GameStop business model 😂😂
I’ll be honest, I would care more about Micro Center but the closest one to me is 4 hours. Not worth the drive when you can get the same things for the exact same price on Amazon and they even offer same day or next day shipping.
Places pay 50% of what they are gonna sell something for. That price is if you don't want the hassle of selling it yourself. It is the same way selling guitars at used stores. Sure, it is new to computer people, but that's how it has been for decades in other retail. Someone else is doing the work selling it on another site, you're just selling it to a store easy peasy.
Heads up 8000g NPU doesn't have the minimum 40 TOPS that Microsoft state for future feature
5:20 - Why the hell does the Ryzen 9 8945 even exist if it's an 8-core with a small bump in speed compared to the 8840?
What?, RX 6950 for $700? No thanks, especially since there was recently an Amaz-fire sale for the 7900 XT at $500, and right now the 7700 XT is going for $400.
I think it was a good idea for me to skip ryzen 8000 apu series and wait for apu's with rdna 3+, by the looks of it, they seem like a true upgrade from my current apu (3200g)
Yea "wild performance" that literally cant play almost every game at a decent frame rate above 720p resolution
Because game optimisation is crap by the modern developers
new camera?!
When you are covering a new release with a new technology, like, I don't know.... NPU it would be a good idea to tell people something trivial like, WHAT THE HELL AN NPU IS!
I guess the microcentre (NOT microsoft) offer depends on what they think they can sell the card for secondhand? Does seem a touch low though...
please put the first timestamp after the intro when the first topic actually starts!!!!!
6900 time on pandemic was going well over 1k GB
A 780M turned up on a desktop APU would be interesting
I understand why micro center does it. They probably give some Garantie that they work for 3-6 Months or so and now think what happens when they brake Micro Center needs to replace them thats 2k to replace in the orst case. So yea thats why they only give out 700$ and may sell them for 1400-1500$. The risks are just to high.
im pretty sure that the first ryzen came out in the first quater of 2017
i recently bought a RX 6700 non xt and it works fine for what i need
I find it so weird that CEO of Nvidia Jensen is counsins with CEO of AMD Lisa ... small world I guess
Microsoft buying gpu's now. That's wild. 😂. Are they planning on using them in their next console?🤔
😅Microsoft aka Micro Center😅
Jokes on you, I'm going to be saving up till next year for a computer because IM A WAGE SLAVE
I am so sick of Nvidia and their driver updates screwing everything up... It's like they don't even test their drivers with the games while saying it's the latest driver that you need... No more... I'm putting together a new computer and going with AMD...
I looked at "completed" listings for 4090's on eBay, so... like actual sales of used 4090's. The things RARELY sell because when you are literally the burgoise what's a couple hundred more dollars for your best in the world gaming GPU, and nobody who's sane is even bothering to deal hunt for a 4090 because even the cheapest completed listings were still $1,600+ TL;DR your second hand RTX 4090 is not worth shit because nobody is going to buy it used when they're so rich they can just buy it new _with_ a warranty
Proof that the supply shortages are artificial to inflate price.
got a 6950xt xfx for 440 on ebay recently :x
I honestly think Q4 2024 is too early for the RTX 50 Series to be released. Especially with the launch of the RTX 40 Super Series that happened earlier this year. A lot of leaks are saying a Q1 2025 launch for the 5090, with the 5080 coming around a month after that. In my opinion, it would make more sense if they revealed the RTX 50 Series at CES 2025.
wtf what leaks? I’ve seen soooo many leaks saying Q4 2024 and even Q3 2024 coming from someone who works for Nvidia. You’re literallly the only person I’ve seen say 2025
@@NahBNah There were lots of leaks saying a 2025 release for the 5090. Just do some research, and you will see.
They are taking advantage of the fact that everyone is struggling.
That's what companies do.
As much as I want to buy a 6900 XT, I can't because of the weak ray tracing performance. I'd buy a 7900 GRE but the RDNA 4 flagship coming this year is slightly stronger than the 7900 GRE but I want to know if their Ray Accelerators improved so much. And then there's GDDR7 coming 2025 plus GTA VI in the year after. I really want my GTX 1080 and Ryzen 1700 replaced to a pretty much, future proofed parts to last me as long as the aforementioned build I have.
Ray tracing is over rated, but IF ..that is very important for you. Nvida is best option. Even if me personal would never buy a Nvida at their pricing. AMD is really best bang for buck, if not care for RT. ( or some game that is heavy in favor for Nvida) Yes, maybe best to wait and see what both will release this year, as both Nvida 5000 serie and AMD 9000 out soon'ish.
@@supersmurf4884better to wait.
I wonder what AI AMD is talking about because all the applications I know and use require CUDA cores
Imagine all the melted 4090s Microcenter has already lost money on
LMAO this guy even filters his comments section because my comment just disappeared. 🤣
Man, did I score a general purpose solid CPU ahead of it's time with a 7950x. AMD has since been releasing nothing but mobile jwnk since then.. Now, if only I could get Windows 10 to stop randomly blue screening from ndis errors out of the blue for apparently no reason at all.
AMD ryzen Pro processors, now people going to "stutter" LOL now will the multiple AI processors be able to work together? like if you have an RTX 4090 will it work together with a ryzen 7 Pro? or is it up to the software developer?
Linux Drivers = Probably for SteamOS?
Small business owners like Linux, very low cost for office equivalent software. Basically you just pay for the hardware.
P.S. You said "Microsoft" at the start of your first story piece.
I don't buy used GPU but if I had to : I don't care what the seller says, I don't trust anyone so if I had to buy a used GPU I'll just jump to the conclusion that it was a mining GPU and offer less than if it was normal usage, so if I was micro center Id do the same
Unfortunately, there are many 4090's overpriced at $2000+. Personally, I still think it should have been a $1200 card so as far as I'm concerned $700 is quite reasonable, that's $100 extra over half the price it should be......
I keep getting the feeling that "AI" is going to go bye bye and be vapor ware few will remember.
4090 only $699 ? i want that GPU LoL
Hello everyone!
Q: how many NPUs would it take to replace all elected public servants and form a most excellent union?
Tell ya what. Want rid of your 4090? I'll give you $750. That's $50 more than Microcenter.
I good for 800. 🤣
There is value in a used 4090 for sure. It is by no means obsolete tech. Still the biggest dog out there. The thing here is that Microcenter needs to make a profit too and there are always risks involved in used hardware. So them paying 700 for it and selling them at 1000-1200 is not that bad. Especially right now with the way 4090's appear to be stocking up and not selling through immediately, I would call it fair... This is the trope in the Pawnshop show. You get an expert who says this is worth xyz and the sellers get all excited and ask for the value of course, but since the Pawnshop needs to make some money too, they cannot offer the items real value. As that is likely the price they may be able to sell it off to another customer... It is what it is.
The cards will soon be beat by the 5090 and many of them have connector problems so yeah its reasonable. The cards should only ever have been 1200 dollars to begin with.
My friend and me in bariloche argentina we what the Best of components like 32/36 gb vram for more games and like 10tb of storage for the future in 2025 if the rtx 5000 and radeon rdna 4 or 5 comeput and the intel 15th gen cpu and ryzen like 8000 or 9000😊
They offered me $428 for my 7900xtx which I bough from them for $1000
Don't call it an NPU, say the full name "No Phucking Use". It's a waste of silicone that could've been cache.
There is also a high potential you get scammed on online
🤣🤣🤣if ur a mouran
@@alexandru256 Go read the forums about all the scam buyers! Got rocks?
Am I excited about new GPUs and CPUs, yes. Why? So the older ones will finally get affordable. Hardware is already good enough for all games. I don't need 300 FPS thanks
If the manufacturers restock of course!
@@valentinomastrangeloalborn2232 I buy everything used anyways
AMD for the Win.
I guess I've got to be the devils advocate here. Unfortunately, running a business costs money. When Microcenter takes a used card, they are planning to put it back on the shelf. Before they do that, there are a few things that need to be considered. They will most likely disassemble and visually inspect the card and repaste. They will also have to stress test it. These take time and money, decreasing their potential profit. When they take a used card, they take a lot of risk with it. They have no idea how the card was used, if its been tampered with, etc. That means they are also taking the risk of needing to pay for a possible repair on the card. All of this, plus they are trying to resell a used card when PC hardware is always advancing, and the market moves with the new tech. This makes an old card not nearly as valuable. I can understand peoples initial disgust, but they aren't looking to lose money as a business either. Its like trading in used cars at dealerships.... you get far less than a private sale, but at the same time, you trade it in and your hands are clean, you dont need to deal with all the BS that comes with selling private. A dealership takes on very similar risks. So I get it.
Bro said microsoft not microcenter
Don't sell your 4090. It'll last for several more years. If you don't have a 2nd gaming or mining PC to put it in then build one 😂
Microcenter, not microsoft.
Microcenter thinks we're crackheads.
Pumped for RX 8000..... UM! NOOO
More disipointed no 8900XT/XTX 32GB GDDR7 GPUs ......... AMD IS DOA/ RX 8000 IS DOA IF MORE THAN $399 for flagship N48 ( unless we get an N48X3D/N48XTX3D
in other words 4x stacked dies making a 8900XTX 32GB GDDR7 gen5x16 GPu if not, THEN no thanks AMD
Can't wait to get an AI PC
6.10.0 not 6.1.0 its a big difference :)
Didn't expect to find this in the comments, but happy I searched, so I didn't do a duplicate.
If you're trading in a 4090 right now, you're a goofball. lol
Microcenter is so disgustingly dirty.... I will never return to any of their stores no matter the offer they had and how many youtubers they paid to clean their image
Do you honestly thought they will be any different? They are a business after all and also newegg did it as well (im not defending them or saying its justified in any way) I'm just saying that they are not the only who is doing their dirty practices this whole stores/corporations have sold their souls for money and profits that's how they are going on with it.
Why what did they do?
I like to use them for certain warranties. Cpu just died? Go buy a new one, use a *redacted* to peel the seal without affecting the anti tamper, and swap em out. Boom, fixed.
@@rodiculous9464 in my case they revoke my right to return items because I returned too many items. Since I build and sell PC I purchased a lot of pieces, and for sure I returned several defective parts, which it is not my problem am I right? If some of the parts they sell are nor working properly. After that they did even wanted to honor extended warranties that I got several years ago, despite I paid extra for them... and trust me that I am not the 1st of the last one in a similar situation
because of their trade in value? what are you talking about? this is not even something that a "regular store" offers; and that makes them "disgustingly dirty"?
You mean the "First Ryzen AI business CPUs" there... fixed your clickbait title.
Ai. No don’t want it lol
en word
AMD RULES !!! *Intel and Nvidia can both go to HELL !!!*
Nuh uh
Mr. Gamermeld, when you show content you should minimized yourself to zero. We can only see 2/3 of the content. Not good.
Just shows the real value of todays overpriced gpu market. Do you really expect a business to pay anything more for a used card when a new product is ready to come out very soon ? They need to have some kind of turnaround on the deal. And you really cannot compare a computer part or any other electronics with eg. a vintage analog synth that in some cases sellls for 10 and 20 times the original price 40 years ago. Whenever there is a new gen in computer parts or electronics the model you just baught last year is practical worthless cause you can now get a new one with 4 times the functionality at half the price. People have just been blinded by most companies using the last 4 years of covid and chip shortage to artificially push prices to a redicolous value where people actually think the gpu's are worth what they payed. And generally people always think their used garbage electronics is worth way more when trying to sell it online. Most prices on used gear is also artificially and cleverly manipulated to make it seem like a 5 year old gpu is 2-400 bucks worth when the actual value realistically is more like half the value people buy it at.
*AMD announces business Ryzen processor. Whoopty Doo!!* 😑
This 700$ is fair offer. There is tons of work and risks involved buying from used market. Other thing to consider is that who is selling 4090s - rich people who actually dont care about that anyway - they are more like ".... I did trade in my old crap and did get 700$ off from my new 5000$ rig ...."
5th
4090 is not even worth $99. Because it will burn your house.
What? 😅
First
Is your face really important for the content?
Welcome to a world of rip off's