Tesla model 3 vs 2023 BMW M4

This comment should get more like lol but everyone dont seem to understand.

@@pkaniram they all under aged or geeks. They can't understand

it's cheaper for a reason .. u people make 0 sense. U get 0 luxury in a tesla and they cut corners to make their profit margins as much as possible. Think about this. The tesla model s plaid was 140-160k last year and now in one year it's 60k used and 89k new. That's historic depreciation. It obviously was never even worth 100k with what's used to make it. If they can make a profit off selling it new for 89k who knows what it actually cost to make 😂 they use the lowest grade shit. It'd basically an ipad on wheels. Nothing feels special about being in or seeing a tesla. They are dull and plain jane. Tesla uses "minimalistic" design as an excuse to drive profit margins up. Elon and tesla do anything they can fo fool their audience. Obv his ego got hurt that the taycan beat it around a track so he used f1 supercar tires that no production car comes with 😂 tesla also recieved a lawsuit recently for lying about the range estimates their cars..

Cope

@@georgyzhukov6409I guess your blind

Check the reaction times tho . Bmw driver was slow. But had quicker times

@@swieneicki211reaction time means nothing it's the et that matters

Tesla wiped the floor with the BMW all noise and no action, hilarious, maybe spend a few thousand on some upgrades and then come back for another try. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes, but those are too boring. The Plaid crushes the ICE car so bad it’s not interesting to watch

Plaid goes againt M8C

Horsepower doesn’t match

@@Skyprince27 Based on the price, you're leaving the M3/M4 with a $20,000+ budget for upgrades. Best of luck considering $2,000 in upgrades puts the BMW in contention with a Plaid. You do realize the G80/G82 M3 & M4 run about 2.3-2.5 seconds 0-60 and 9's at 140+mph in the 1/4 mile with just a tune and E85, right? That's with nothing more than $2,000 in upgrades and they're better for the environment (and still about $18-25k cheaper than the Plaid S). It doesn't take much searching to find the M3/M4 running with and even beating the Plaid. Talk down on other cars, but the G8x isn't one to be messed with. Do a little research and you'll be impressed with what the little 3.0L ICE can accomplish.

@@zachmayock4987 your facts and figures are garbage, the Plaid would crush any BMW 🤣🤣

EV's are usually limited on the top speed, to reserve battery life, but they can easily go faster, beginning to end, than ICE cars. The Tesla hit the accelerator on the last yellow light, which is what you're supposed to do. The BMW was just inexperienced.

The Tesla has no drivetrain lag, no turbos to spool, no clutch, etc. Just 600+ lb/ft of torque ready to go from 0 RPM.

The 1/4 mile timing is done individually for each car from when they start moving so it doesn't matter if one of them "jumps the lights". Even though the Tesla finished ahead, the BMW's time was still slightly lower, most likely because it was faster at the end.

@@MrArtist7777 - In the second race, the Tesla hit the go-pedal on the last yellow AND RED-LIGHTED … look at 1:47 - it’s clear as a bell …

Clearly you do not know how to stay race. You're supposed to take off at the third yellow light. The Tesla didn't jump anything.

sur c est pas un rapide avec son BM

The Tesla is an appliance like the fridge. 😂😂😂 Tesla sucks

How many years are you guys going to say “it’s fast for a family car”. It has no sound, it’s not as fun to drive, the chassis is not in the same league. When has putting ur foot down and doing 1/4 mile in an appliance become something to rave about? BORING.

@@bigjdm5460 Couldn’t agree more! Wait until they try to trade in an EV that has or is about to have the battery warranty expire. Nobody in their right mind would buy one or take it on trade. And, Hertz is unloading a bunch of EVs due to repair costs and lack of demand.

@@QUIKCaspa Lucky he doesn't depend on Superchargers in Chicago😉

@@bigjdm5460 there are good arguments against the Tesla, but being boring to drive is definitely not one of them. I do own and also had in the past various performance engine cars and driven many other from friends. You can’t call yourself a car enthusiast and not enjoy the go cart feeling coming from the instant acceleration and aggressive cornering coming with a track mode enabled Tesla. It’s just different and I think both engines and motors have their own strengths and weaknesses. It’s plain ignorant and blindfolded to not recognize that. Some of the existing and upcoming hybrid supercars actually offer the best of both worlds. Unfortunately that comes with unreasonable price tags, but maybe one day that will change.

Quick but not fast

Just because its the "cheapest" doesnt mean its still cheap.Remember the "cheapest" still starts at 40 grand

@@GabrielLittle relatively

@@mehdihayati8567 i mean compared to the m4 its still cheap so your argument is still valid

@@GabrielLittlethen why u mad

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Because BMW is combustion, the fuel causes weight so the less the better and Tesla is 100% electric so the less "fuel for the battery" the weaker it becomes, making it difficult to transport At least that's what a Brazilian (me) thinks

Not entirely true, the tesla won't start getting slower until significant battery drain

Tesla is half the price of an M4 lol also Tesla is quicker 0-60 which is more realistic in every day driving

Yeah, they're fun for a while, but like the silly pet tricks that BMW hiired Jan Hammer for , popping gets old real fast. it's tuned exhaust, that the driver can vary.

It's the time, not whoever gets off the line first

the m4 couldn't manage the light the clutch and the gas apparently. its not as tricky in the EV. My mother couldn't hit the traps ahead of that 100k BMW 😂

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​@@patrutherford9600if u think the m3 and m4 don't launch harder then a model 3 then check the carwow drag race m3 vs model3 performance 😂😂 it gets smoked beginning too end.

@@user-my4xu4gf1z an m3 has slower 0 to 60 than even a model Y. It is slower at the 60 ft mark and all the way thru to the quarter mile than a model 3 performance costing me half as much. I assume you are referring to the xdrive one or whatever. Yes that one will if you launch it succesfully. The tesla will be spot on every time while you'll need to rev and dump that BMW. I've spent a lot of time with evos and wrxs (owned an e46 also) and that tends to wear on them quite a bit but fun while it lasts.

Exactly. What's really cool Tesla has an OTA upgrade, which costs $2k, and OTA update will unlock an additional 100 hp. BMW has the same trick, but you have to spend $ 20k to get the next mode in the over priced line-up.

@@craighermle7727 Write exactly which BMW it is. Model, year, - I'll ask about that. I don't do Bmw so I don't know and I don't believe it. So far, every similar case has been a lie. It was funny how Porsche loses power, it can't even do 5x 0-60... Tesla 20x 0-60 without loss. The American magazine wanted to show how good Tesla is, so it invited a lot of people to the test to see it with their own eyes. Taycan 10x 0-60 without losing power. Model S only 2x 0-60 without loss then the loss increased. In the last 10th start, the Model S needed 3x longer time to go 0-60. Or the Taycan is overheating. He can't even complete 1 lap on the Nürburgring. And again next to Plaid, it has a problem with cooling from the very beginning. It's funny that in 2021 Tesla's record was still delayed due to a cooling problem and it's 2023 and Tesla can't go 322 km/h at the record because it has an overheating problem 289 km/h in the video FSD at Tesla cost 15,000, a discount to 12,000,- at MB the price is 2,500,- That's just how cheap Tesla is ... and $20,000 That doesn't look like a German ... $20,000 Track Package, $20,000 P90DL to P100DL Upgrade The Germans don't have those numbers. But I will find out.

And above all, don't forget the driving characteristics and the quality of the workmanship. You will find out why the demand and sales of Model S + Model X are decreasing.... The $50,000 discount on the new Model S is interesting, but it has 2 sides. Why is the model that is the best that Tesla has cheaper? That's not right... there's going to be a problem. That's what many people think...

Watch the carwow drag race m3 vs model 3 performance. The bmw launches harder then the model 3. The only people impressed with the instant toruqe of teslas are average Joe's that have never been able to afford an actual high end luxury sports car. Theres a reason people with exotics and bmws/merc don't find teslas fun and don't drive them. U never see a rapper or athelete or yotuber with multi million dollar car collections driving a tesla. My dad has a targa 4 gts and I get to drive it time to time. What makes it fun and a visceral experience is the engine. The revs the downshifts. That's what makes it feel like a special occasion whenever I'm in it. A tesla wouldn't even come close to that level of excitement. Think of it like this. Speeding in an tesla is like having sex with earplugs in. Only ur body feels it.(Except for the terrible noise isolation causing the wind to leak in the cabin.) Real sports cars hit and fill ur entire senses. Also I will say teslas look like basic traffic. No one stars or takes a pic. They are plain jane and dull just like it's interior. Nothing feels special about being in a tesla. So plain jane and dull. 0 luxury.

it's cheaper for a reason .. u people make 0 sense. U get 0 luxury in a tesla and they cut corners to make their profit margins as much as possible. Think about this. The tesla model s plaid was 140-160k last year and now in one year it's 60k used and 89k new. That's historic depreciation. It obviously was never even worth 100k with what's used to make it. If they can make a profit off selling it new for 89k who knows what it actually cost to make 😂 they use the lowest grade shit. It'd basically an ipad on wheels. Nothing feels special about being in or seeing a tesla. They are dull and plain jane. Tesla uses "minimalistic" design as an excuse to drive profit margins up. Elon and tesla do anything they can fo fool their audience. Obv his ego got hurt that the taycan beat it around a track so he used f1 supercar tires that no production car comes with 😂 tesla also recieved a lawsuit recently for lying about the range estimates their cars..

thats a negative ghost rider

M4 comp xdrive is 2.8s on most reviewed I had watched

AFFORDABLE??? That’s relative bud

Sudharani bhupathiraju says “ bruh “ and then tells us all what is affordable

Lmao what are you on. It’s literally 30k for the base model which gets you plenty enough. Its cheaper or as cheap as most new Camry’s and Corollas. Don’t forget the cheap cost to charge compared to gas as well. Unless you’re dirt poor this is a affordable sedan. You can even buy one from a year or two ago and get it cheaper. It literally saves you money with each charge as well.

@@BlazeBaron22323 Please find me a Tesla Model 3 for $30k OTD lol

@@Dou6.2 With tax incentives, standard ranges are around 30k now.

I first said that 2 but the more I look at it the more it's growing on me

Plaid laps nurburgring faster for less money. not factoring in it also costs less to drive around the circuit. The m4 CSL will get it by a lil bit but msrp at 140k tho :/ not a great metric to use anyway as most dont hotlap around circuits all day.

I assume that the Telsa model being used was the Performance version, but maybe not. M4 start at $78,100 The Tesla lists for $53.2k then there's the tax credit in the US which brings the price of the Tesla M3P to roughtly 45k. and 3.1 0-60, but who's counting If you haven't test driven ithe Model "S", you might want to check it out. I own an M440i xdrive GC, and if I could sell it at a reasonable loss, a Model "S" would be in my driveway.

@@craighermle7727 ur right m4 is 78k. I always see them used for 80s and 90s. all the extras. with tesla theres not as much options. and I was going off of the inventory stock where some are in the 46k range before credit.

@@patrutherford9600 I've owned BMWs fpr the last 20-25 years. If there's bias on my part it has been towards BMW. BMW is changing as a company, and IMO, not for the better, BMW continues to chop away at what they offer at given price points, and their maintenance warranty while again at a price point comparable to pricing in the past. has significantly reduced what is covered. BMW doesn't offer anywhere near what Tesla offers from a technological or performance perspective at a marketly lower price point. I test-drove the Model "S" for an hour and BMW can't come close to what Tesla is offering in range, tech or perhaps almost as importantly to ther charging network. When I test drove the "S" not the Plaid by the way, just the "S", I had a conversation with the next in line waiting to test drive the "S". He commented on my M440 saying he liked the car and that BMW was on his shortlist. I asked if he'd mind if I talked to him after his test drive as I really wanted an opinion other than my own. I did and he did. His underhanded compliment was duly noted when he stated that he had a Porsche GT3 sitting in his garage and couldn't think of any reason to not buy the "S". Either can I

Yeah, but see, it’s sour grapes and excuses to lose one race but then claim you could win another completely different race. First across the finish line wins. The M4 driver lost the race in spite of the fact that his car is quicker.

Wow you can read the brochure !

I agree. I've tried drag racing 1/4 with Plaid and 0 - 1/8 mile is truly breathtaking - incredible power that ICE can never achieve due to engine design because having full engine power available from 0 rpm with ICE is just a dream. On the other hand, after 1/8, I'm used to ICE finally waking up... and fixing everything.

Partially true, but also Sounds like you haven't watch enough drag racing. Teslas are fast, but not faster than most quick cars on the track that have proper tires. Even RWD cars can achieve 1.5 seconds in the 60'. So Unless it's a plaid, teslas are not necessarily faster even considering the "instant pull off the line".

​@@Mijanboy wow, you really don't think any ice car can beat a Tesla in the 1/8 mile??? Lmao😂😂

@@Spirited_Driver Greetings from Central Europe. I think the main problem was that I didn't know for a long time that in the USA the course of the drag race is probably based on an agreement or a decision of who organizes the drag race. I have not seen that in Europe yet - here it is always with reaction time as it should be. So when I watched a drag race where the start was not conditional on a green light and I didn't know that, I didn't understand why they couldn't see who was the first at the finish line :) and even worse was a drag race where the winner was the one who had a higher speed at the finish line . I thought I must have gone crazy. Here in the video, BMW doesn't even use launch control. EV cars have the huge advantage of having all the power available from 0 rpm. Although the S Plaid is no threat to me in a drag race, being EV + 1020 hp, 1420 Nm is very fast indeed. But on the circuit, everyone is surprised how bad it is with the driving characteristics (Plaid without modifications). Since everyone wants to enjoy the speed, they all go as fast as they can on the flat, but before the corner they all brake prematurely just to be sure. Thanks to this, not a single Plaid on the circuit brakes within 3 minutes. If I didn't know the Nürburgring by heart, I would have done the same. But in the fifth minute, my performance dropped due to overheating protection. So even if you win over the brakes, no one will finish the whole lap quickly. I immediately remembered E. Musk claiming that the time 07:35 was run by Plaid without any modifications, but the reality is that few people under 10 minutes, no one under 9 minutes. Not to mention the fact that although no one goes around a single lap quickly, it is necessary to charge after 3 laps.

@Mijanboy interesting perspective, and great insight regarding circuit racing the teslas lol.

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Model 3 looks like performance with the red brakes and rear spoiler. the model 3 long range none performance will not run 11's for sure.

@@Renaissanceman81Model 3 long range will run 11.7s.

It’s not quick,the bmw was faster but the tesla guy keeps jumping the light

​@@Cjh-hm8psw, Tesla is trash

A model 3 can run as quick as 11:30 The b m w is not factory Stock From the Factory that car runs about 11.80 or 11.90s. A model S LR can run 10.60s and the model S plaid can run 9.00.

@bigj4295 I know about the Plaid and the model S P100d being really fast. I just didn't think the model 3's hit 11s. Thx for the information.

​@bigj4295 not sure where you're getting these info from but an m4 xdrive can do high 10s stock on a track all day!

The Tesla jumped the gun, twice

@@DANNY40379 yep this actually could have been the bmw win if done right no problem.

@@everydaysurvival157 he won the race? look at the time

That's pretty easy to do

I agree - he ran a low 11 second quarter mile without launch control, very impressive! That M4 is fast.

Imagine a plaid😮

What sorry of roll? A bread roll, jam roll or roll of paper? Bad loser 🤣🤣

@@Bigmacs1 you must be the loser if you don’t know what roll I’m talking about lmao go back to playing forza kid

@@dontrustwhiteyevery1 no need to imagine kzhead.info/sun/ZLKRlLWSa6FvpYk/bejne.html

@@Bigmacs1Roll racing… you select what speed you floor it. 40 rolls are typical, 60 rolls are for very fast cars.

Ridicule

Lol thats your best excuse

@@minso8164 just what he said: "as much as 3 Tesla model 3s"

very big and thick Cigarette of cannabis... the driver is then a little slower, but still cheerful😜Or it doesn't matter when who starts... he didn't even give launch control... he didn't need it

You mean the new Model 3 Performance that they claim to be faster despite making no power changes whatsoever? Rich. Besides, the pre 2020 Model 3's batteries have already degraded to a point where they barely manage high 11s anymore. Even an RS3 can keep up now.

@@Corvolet5 New rear motor with more power. Do you even Google bro?

@@Corvolet5 Lucky engines never lose power. A 10 yo BMW has the same maybe even more power than when new. Duh.

@@ytfytf1265 Tesla never really changes anything aside from power figures and price tags to appeal to 2012 cars. It's a force of habit.

@@ytfytf1265 Must be why a 2018 P100D is a lot slower now than an M5 Competition with roughly the same power 🤔 there was a vid where it clapped it so hard the camera car (Plaid) had to join the race so it can save the name. Hilarious

The BMW has a higher top speed. Teslas tend to slow down after 80.

Times don’t start until you launch

The M4 also costs about $40,000 more. Why not have both. I have an M3 and a Tesla. People always think you have to choose one over the other. I also have two lifted Trucks. Each vehicle serves a different purpose. I also have three different mountain bikes. One for downhill, one for trails and one that is electric.

@@mocheen4837 mr moneybags talking about "why not have both?" 😂

@@mocheen4837 lol if it ever gets so bad that I use KZhead to flex please let me know what I've become. point is, either theyre not in a financial position to do so or they have better places to put their cash for returns. and or just aren't that into the hobby to justify the payoff or payments

​@patrutherford9600 He did start of his comment by stating a fact that the M4 is more expensive than a Tesla M3. I don't think he was intentionally trying to "flex", kinda weird to poke fun at that, but it is KZhead, like you said.