Shane Gillis on WWI and the Paintings of Francisco Goya

2024 ж. 14 Мам.
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Taken from JRE #2077 w/Shane Gillis:
open.spotify.com/episode/75Hy...

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  • Shane is such a great comedian. I walked in, I said wow, what a funny guy this guy is

    @t0p-D@t0p-D5 ай бұрын
    • IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

      @PSi-fp8ve@PSi-fp8ve5 ай бұрын
    • Lol I read that in Trump

      @thomasuriarte3182@thomasuriarte31825 ай бұрын
    • This is a totally pedantic comedy nerd move of me but... that's not how the joke works. You're supposed to repeat the thing you say originally. "Shane is a great comedian, I walked in here and said wow what a great comedian."

      @keith3946@keith39465 ай бұрын
    • We all did the trump impression in our heads 😭

      @TheDarkrebel131@TheDarkrebel1315 ай бұрын
    • God damnit I read that in his voice

      @tombosley3048@tombosley30485 ай бұрын
  • Shane is the man. History buff, NFL fan, beer drinker. A mans man.

    @real716sasquatch6@real716sasquatch65 ай бұрын
    • Top bro

      @PragmaticPath727@PragmaticPath7275 ай бұрын
    • Ugh a know it all

      @samanthab1923@samanthab19235 ай бұрын
    • Korea war str8 after WW2

      @Samboy666@Samboy6665 ай бұрын
    • Knowing a few things about ww1 doesn't make u a history buff. He said it was Austria in ww1? Na bro it was the Austro-Hungarian empire that was involved in ww1. Multiple new countries were born when that empire fell in 1918.

      @McYeroc@McYeroc5 ай бұрын
    • @@McYeroc That’s what I mean & you have guys in the comments saying “I learn so much about History from Shane”! Ugh

      @samanthab1923@samanthab19235 ай бұрын
  • This is why people like Shane: he’s actually his own person with his own interests and passions. He’s not just another mindless drone of Joe’s.

    @DuncanClair@DuncanClair5 ай бұрын
    • Shane don't need Joe, Toe needs Shane

      @wolfcatwithagun@wolfcatwithagun5 ай бұрын
    • Very well said.

      @morrisj68@morrisj685 ай бұрын
    • @@wolfcatwithagun Joe absolutely does not need Shane lol. But Shane also does not need Joe.

      @mr.doctorcaptain1124@mr.doctorcaptain11245 ай бұрын
    • @@mr.doctorcaptain1124 heard it bowth ways

      @wolfcatwithagun@wolfcatwithagun5 ай бұрын
    • They're better off with each other.

      @jj4791@jj47915 ай бұрын
  • I love how Shane is kind of like Norm in the sense that he's actually a smart and knowledgeable guy but likes to play the dumbest guy in the room and just make people laugh

    @TheGhostOfFredZeppelin@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin5 ай бұрын
    • Way different though, I'm a fan of both these guys. Shane, a fan of history and is quick to correct anybody who brings up a historical fact. Norm in all the clips I've seen never corrected anyone on any of the facts. He always cracked jokes with everybody, even when they talking about stuff more serious. At the end of the day both guys are funny and incomparable.

      @allsmightykill@allsmightykill4 ай бұрын
    • @@allsmightykill Yeah I didn't say they were the same person, just that they are similar in the sense that they are smarter than they let on and like to play the fool for the sake of comedy.

      @TheGhostOfFredZeppelin@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin4 ай бұрын
    • For 12 min in this video he showed me he was stupid and talked about stuff he didn't know shit about. So where you get that he is smart baffels me

      @dalic24@dalic244 ай бұрын
    • I remember on one of the "parks" episodes someone said Shane actually has a degree in history, I forgot what type of degree, but good enough that he could teach college-level history

      @TheDoc1978@TheDoc19784 ай бұрын
    • Norm had much less ego though. He never felt compelled to defend himself or his points with emotion. He would destroy people with a smile in his face while he, himself never coming off annoyed or feeling disrespected. No shade on Shane. Norm was just God level genius troll comedian.

      @AJ-das@AJ-das4 ай бұрын
  • Shane just moved up in my power rankings for being a fellow Goya enjoyer

    @JoeyHNDRXX@JoeyHNDRXX5 ай бұрын
    • Goya Enjoya was right there man

      @ItsFreeVRealEstate@ItsFreeVRealEstate5 ай бұрын
    • “The Dog” is a great painting. Just a little dude chillin

      @briancomforti3890@briancomforti38905 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ItsFreeVRealEstate if you have an English accent it still rhymes. So. Ha?

      @josephbrennan9712@josephbrennan97123 ай бұрын
    • I have that Goya print of atlas eating his child in my room. Love it

      @americannightmare2109@americannightmare21092 ай бұрын
    • @@americannightmare2109 its not Atlas. It´s Saturn´(in Roman´s mythology) or Cronos (in greek mythology).

      @mrdraztik1@mrdraztik1Ай бұрын
  • I love the history lessons we get when Shane comes on.

    @nick_c_hudson@nick_c_hudson5 ай бұрын
    • He made a wrong conclusion tough. The assasination was the trigger but not the reason. The real reason was disagreement over the division of Africa and its spoils between Europeans. So they were already ready for war, so if the assasination did not happen something else would have caused it.

      @mucuk5383@mucuk53835 ай бұрын
    • Joe is a little light on smarts.@@mucuk5383

      @paulbrady5259@paulbrady52595 ай бұрын
    • @@mucuk5383 Africa was not the reason at all lol. The vast majority of African colonies were glorified money sinks. They were extremely unprofitable to maintain and colonial powers only wanted them for the prestige of having more colonies than the next guy.

      @MinecraftMasterNo1@MinecraftMasterNo15 ай бұрын
    • ​@@mucuk5383yep. He also got some facts about the assassination wrong.

      @crypto4423@crypto44235 ай бұрын
    • I enjoy it as well. I'm someone who's not incredibly well versed in history but am very interested in it. Seems like a lot of the "history bros" are upset because he doesn't get every little detail right. He's not teaching a damn lesson, he's just talking with a friend. Jeez people

      @tombosley3048@tombosley30485 ай бұрын
  • The assassination (in Sarajevo, Bosnia) was more an event which sparked ww1 not the cause of it. The treaties involving the two major factions in Europe to help each other were signed years before 1914. Germany had also been involved in a naval arms race with Britain for decades. And territorial disputes between France and Germany over the Alsace region, Italy with the Trentino etc. So war was inevitable, they just needed an excuse. Every country was making their own preparations for it.

    @NmpK24@NmpK245 ай бұрын
    • This. Nobody wanted Germany to advance further because they were a terrifying military power but they had no access to oil which was the one thing that crippled them. Germany was building a railway from Berlin to Baghdad. The first British battalion deployed in WW1 was in Basrah, Iraq and the railway was also bombed.

      @Peglegkickboxer@Peglegkickboxer4 ай бұрын
    • and Big Brother was watching and waiting for the right time

      @radiotelevision3903@radiotelevision39034 ай бұрын
    • thankyou

      @1greenMitsi@1greenMitsi4 ай бұрын
    • Many modern historians believe that the war was indeed not inevitable as once flaunted. For example the morocco crisis before could have very easily sparked such a world war but was resolved peacefully. As well as the Balkan wars were close to starting war when Russia considered mobilizing to take Constantinople leading up to ww1. I would agree the assassination was not a very important event at the time. No one thought it would lead to the world war but it did, and at several points the war could have been avoided. It was not like the Germans actually wanted a war, the Austrians certainly wanted a war but against Serbia, None of the citizens wanted a war, but once it happened they put full support behind their respective sides. Even the respective "leaders" the kaiser and tsar were very hesitant, Wilhelm was sent to his yacht to avoid his interference and the tsar famously went back and forth until the generals stopped listening and just went with mobilization.

      @marcuspapst@marcuspapst4 ай бұрын
    • No war is inevitable. One of the big problems is that all major players FELT it was inevitable, and therefor took no serious steps to mitigate the crisis in july 1914. WW1 could have been settled like any other Balkan dispute. But you're right that there were underlying causes, but there always are those. It didn't have to turn into a major war the way it did. France and Germany could have duked it out like they did 1870.

      @hampusheh@hampusheh4 ай бұрын
  • Can’t get enough of Shane talking history😊

    @bob321493@bob3214935 ай бұрын
    • these are history buffs to the average american, how sad is this they don't even know basic facts, like the place of assassination ...

      @xboxgamerhr@xboxgamerhr5 ай бұрын
    • LOL

      @randb4865@randb48655 ай бұрын
    • @@puckered603699% of people dont know history at all and dont care to learn it. the amount of people that will learn something from this podcast is a blessing in itself.

      @LilBoiPeep69@LilBoiPeep694 ай бұрын
    • WW1 was not over anything. It was a result of imperialism which is the highest stage of capitalism. If it didn't happen over the death of Prince Ferdinand it would have been over something else. Just like the conflict in Ukraine, the US wanted it to happen for the past 30 years, they wanted to get it by hook or by crook. The NATO bases moved closer and closer to Russia, they poked the bear one too many times.

      @sergeikhripun@sergeikhripun4 ай бұрын
  • My great grandfather, William Downes fought in WW1. He was part of the Durham Light Infantry and saw action in The Somme and Ypres. He was mustard gassed but survived and came home. It was horrendous conditions and the war was the bridge to modern warfare, where tanks were created and used for the first time and there was aircraft combat. If anyone is interested in WW1 watch Peter Jacksons, They Shall Not Grow Old. It's a fantastic glimpse into what it was like.

    @NicLuc@NicLuc5 ай бұрын
    • Omg……. Thank you pops for that service🎉 Also check out Dan Carlin’s Blueprint for Armaggedon. amazing listen

      @peterpan41@peterpan415 ай бұрын
    • They rode in on horses and rode out on tanks. In just 4 years

      @brianb152@brianb1525 ай бұрын
    • @NicLuc "They shall not grow old" was a great documentary BUT I recently found this one from BBC and it took absolutely new point of view on the WW1. Literaly! It is about the importance of aerial photography which started there and they found some new photos which we didn't knew exists. So they started to analyze them!👍 The documentary is called: "The First World War from Above" LINK: kzhead.info/sun/ftimdK6NgGJsqp8/bejne.htmlsi=TBjiTJ5_4sEy6iCF Anyway, best wishes to all decent Americans from Prague, Czech republic! 🇨🇿🗽🇺🇲

      @Gotcha6666@Gotcha66665 ай бұрын
    • I just recently watched that documentary. Fantastic work. It was directed by thee Peter Jackson of Lord of the Rings.

      @user-yv4mm6bx3c@user-yv4mm6bx3c5 ай бұрын
    • My 2nd great grandfather, Fought for the Royal army, and when they discharged him ( story is fuzzy on why) he went to Canada and joined up to go back. Man Hated Germans.

      @saberwing753@saberwing7535 ай бұрын
  • Francisco de Goya was born in 1746 and died in 1828, almost 100 years prior to WW1... he lived during the French revolution and the invasion of Spain by Napoleon Bonaparte's troops, some of his paintings (like the 1st one in this video) were inspired by it... at the end of his life painted his craiziest stuff, the "Black Paintings". His most expensive painting was sold in 2023 for $16.4 M

    @JJ-mp4oy@JJ-mp4oy5 ай бұрын
    • Only the style was inspired by the war, the paintings Shane referenced are referencing the Romanized version of Greek Mythology lol

      @ARationalGuy2@ARationalGuy25 ай бұрын
    • a rational guy doesnt seem to understand how previous mythology can be used as an anecdote to a then current war@@ARationalGuy2

      @DivaBURP@DivaBURP5 ай бұрын
    • Mr.Gillis visited El Prado,Goya exhibition:"...wow, that is me! And my grandfather! Wait...That is my nephew!

      @pepepepito623@pepepepito6235 ай бұрын
    • Well Leonardo Da Vinci's Mona Lisa is the most valuable painting in history at an estimated worth of $1B in todays dollars or more

      @spody22@spody225 ай бұрын
    • Solt

      @JeffNixonComedy@JeffNixonComedy5 ай бұрын
  • shane’s interest in art is such an amazing part shows how multi faceted he really is

    @dykemoder@dykemoder4 ай бұрын
    • I would argue that it’s the other way around: you don’t get the insights that Shane and other comedians get without being deeply curious and/or introspective. They amplify insights in a way that resonates with people, which means they have to package something insightful in a novel way, and with comedy specifically, they have to make it look natural or accidental (in Shane’s case).

      @Longo556@Longo5564 ай бұрын
    • @@Longo556 what? being introspective doesn’t mean you instantly have an interest in art. and that first part you said , how tf does anything you typed argue that it DOESNT show him as multifaceted?

      @dykemoder@dykemoder4 ай бұрын
    • @@dykemoderI was saying that the multifaceted aspect is a product of being curious and asserting that the relationship is causal. I didn’t see our views as opposing, I was suggesting that it’s deeper than just being multifaceted. But honestly, I wouldn’t consider him multifaceted just from his cursory, elective-level art history knowledge.

      @Longo556@Longo5564 ай бұрын
    • @@Longo556 you sound like a pompous prick that shane would shit on

      @dykemoder@dykemoder4 ай бұрын
    • @@dykemoder He's saying that anyone with that innate curiousity will also be multi-faceted. That's just a result of being constantly curious and wanting to learn new things.

      @aarondonald1611@aarondonald161115 күн бұрын
  • The Hardcore History episodes about WWI are equal parts depressing and compelling. Definitely worth tracking down and listening to.

    @jimmyintheswamp@jimmyintheswamp5 ай бұрын
    • word.

      @frianbantana@frianbantana4 ай бұрын
    • Yes!! From the very first month of the war you think to yourself "this is the most horrific thing I've heard," and every year gets worse than the year before.

      @CosmosJack@CosmosJack4 ай бұрын
    • @@CosmosJack for real. I had bad dreams after I listened to it.

      @jimmyintheswamp@jimmyintheswamp4 ай бұрын
    • also read The Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger. he was an officer in the German Army and later in the special Stormtrooper units. it’s an amazing read.

      @RAB6969@RAB69692 ай бұрын
    • I’ve heard the whole series a good 5 times

      @macieljose51@macieljose51Ай бұрын
  • I watched All Quiet on the Western Front and have been reading a lot about WW1 recently and it was truly a terrifying war. The idea of going over the top to take a trench in no man's land which looks like hell is quite horrifying I mean it is not a coincidence that Tolkien got a lot of his inspiration for middle earth from fighting in the war. The Battle of Verdun is such a terrifying battle and hearing about people drowning in mud is crazy. The worst thing about the war is the idea that technology can outpace human ability and it is a reminder that in a society that is getting technologically advanced so quick we might not have a way to combat these killing machines we've created.

    @zickster@zickster5 ай бұрын
    • Have you listened to the hard-core histories on ww1? Blueprints for Armageddon

      @donzaloog324@donzaloog3245 ай бұрын
    • The Great War is a good KZhead channel about WW1

      @edoggy327@edoggy3275 ай бұрын
    • Comments like this are what makes youtube so epic. thanks dude.

      @ChadSolberg@ChadSolberg5 ай бұрын
    • IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

      @PSi-fp8ve@PSi-fp8ve5 ай бұрын
    • They shall not grow old is another world war 1 thing to check out. And yes blueprint to Armageddon by dan Carlin is amazing

      @DirtNastyCivilian@DirtNastyCivilian5 ай бұрын
  • Shane gillis hands down the funniest of joes friends. His special is tremendous

    @user-rz4re9tu3r@user-rz4re9tu3r5 ай бұрын
    • Definitely. Shane is hilarious.

      @J3R3MI6@J3R3MI65 ай бұрын
    • Because he wasn't his friend first.

      @RyanDMoore@RyanDMoore5 ай бұрын
    • Never met his uncle but yeah he sounds great

      @jaredjones2443@jaredjones24435 ай бұрын
    • their is one god only , and Mohamed is his last prophet and jesus is the prophet of god, Islam means to surrender to the one and only god , Do you want to surrender to him or not , i invite you to islam

      @HassanLoukili-ke1tq@HassanLoukili-ke1tq5 ай бұрын
    • you know he is friends with dave chappelle and bill burr, right?

      @Icecube88@Icecube885 ай бұрын
  • The fact that Shane says, “Just some dudes having fun” about people in trench warfare wrecks me 😂 💀

    @hunterrileymusic@hunterrileymusic4 ай бұрын
  • I wrote a paper in Uni comparing the print series both Dix and Goya did seperately in regards to war and their comparisons. Pleasant surprise hearing 2 of my favourite artists being talked about.

    @jeremiahvalle9971@jeremiahvalle99715 ай бұрын
    • goya is such a dude. im from the same city, and we have a big ass cathedral called "El Pilar" full of his paintings, specially the "frescos" in the roofs. i was baptised there. 5 min away theres a palace-museum with his carvings, that are kind of protest-painting. sick dude. spain is suck a place let me tell you that, i miss it so bad :_(

      @carlos130895@carlos1308955 ай бұрын
  • Shane being a history buff is one of the coolest things about him! He legit loves to learn about history and shit that happened! 😅

    @rz9469@rz94695 ай бұрын
    • History, and shit that happened.

      @frostedsquid@frostedsquid5 ай бұрын
    • @@frostedsquid😂 Incredible

      @sthubbins4038@sthubbins40385 ай бұрын
    • @@frostedsquid yes history and shit that happened. Same same but different but still same.

      @rz9469@rz94695 ай бұрын
    • He has a degree in history.

      @MisterShiznilty@MisterShiznilty5 ай бұрын
    • People are so dumb now. That you guys are impressed by 8th grade history knowledge😂. You think it’s a history buff 😂😂😂😂😂

      @gabriel.moreno8173@gabriel.moreno81735 ай бұрын
  • The museum Shane is talking about is called El Prado. It’s in Madrid. Highly recommended. The most spectacular collection of paintings I’ve seen.

    @agm2531@agm25315 ай бұрын
    • Las Meninas is without doubt one of the greatest works of art I have ever seen in person

      @sayno2lolzisback@sayno2lolzisback5 ай бұрын
    • Same. When I walked into the room where Saturn Devours his Son it was really impactful. GREAT museum!

      @MattH-wg7ou@MattH-wg7ou5 ай бұрын
    • Might be the best.

      @chewie1644@chewie16445 ай бұрын
    • ​@@MattH-wg7ouhow big is that painting?Would love to see the original

      @sakabula2357@sakabula23575 ай бұрын
    • @@sakabula2357holy shit my original comment was a response to a misread of yours lol. Sorry I’m hungover.

      @fabianheilbron9988@fabianheilbron99884 ай бұрын
  • Been a hot second since I’ve tapped into JRE. Shane Gillis is much needed on this corner of the internet.

    @apothecurio@apothecurio4 ай бұрын
  • "The Great War" youtube series by indie neidel is absolutely fantastic. WW1 was hell on earth and also extremely interesting and complex. As horrific as it was, gas was actually not too effective and artillery was the #1 cause of casualties by far. They were basically raining shells on each other the whole time. I couldn't imagine being in the trenches.

    @jakoverslept3096@jakoverslept30964 ай бұрын
    • Love this series!

      @lpowers@lpowers2 ай бұрын
  • Shane would've been one of the best H.S. football coaches/history teachers of all time 😂. Seriously though

    @jaymatthews9324@jaymatthews93245 ай бұрын
    • Just clowning on the students

      @kingofoblivion1822@kingofoblivion1822Ай бұрын
  • I would love to hear Shane talk more history. He's a great comedian but you can tell he is passionate about history. I watched his short series with Louis C.K on the US presidents and it was incredibly interesting and hilarious at times. I could listen to him talk history all day. Maybe thats just me though lol

    @tombosley3048@tombosley30485 ай бұрын
    • Me too. That would be sweet.

      @RustinChole@RustinChole5 ай бұрын
    • Bring back History Hyenas! 😅😂

      @andren8788@andren87885 ай бұрын
    • He also does one on the crusades on his pod with Shane which was interesting

      @MrRob49815@MrRob498155 ай бұрын
    • What's the series called? Would like to watch it

      @WHiT3_SHAD0W@WHiT3_SHAD0W5 ай бұрын
    • Do you watch MSSP? because they drop into a lot of unexpected conversations about history

      @CantTellYou@CantTellYou5 ай бұрын
  • Talking about Goya (loved it), one of the most important painters. Considered a father of modern art., painting everyday people and royalty in a realistic way (no filters)

    @carlosvader77@carlosvader774 ай бұрын
  • Huge fan of De Goya and his paintings. Crazy to see these two talk abt them!

    @gone1095@gone10955 ай бұрын
    • What are the black paintings Shane was gonna say

      @RedRedMCmusic@RedRedMCmusic5 ай бұрын
    • @@RedRedMCmusicthey’re these dark paintings that he did for himself, never sold any and were only found after he died they’re now his most famous works if you search Goya it’s what pops up on images

      @Oxxg@Oxxg4 ай бұрын
    • @@RedRedMCmusicGoya was a famous painter, he actually had colorful pieces that were even owned by the Royal Family of Spain. But then the Napoleonic Wars happened. Napoleon walked into Spain with the excuse of invading Portugal, which of course resulted in the invasion of Spain. While in occupation the civilians in Madrid rebelled against the french troops. Of course this went horribly for the civilians. Goya witnessed the monstrosity of the acts of the french against the Spanish civilians. After this he secluded to his home and slowly went mad while losing his senses (hearing, sight) and while in seclusion he created the Dark Paintings. Depictions of witches, demons and atrocities that reflected the horrors he saw and lived.

      @RockBass68@RockBass684 ай бұрын
  • He didn’t lose his mind. He got sick maybe and lost his hearing. The dark painting were, in my opinion sort of experimental work. It had some darkness to it but some playfulness to it. He was one of the last masters and one of the first modern artist. Some of his work looks like impressionist if you see the dabs of paint. If you study deeper you’ll see that the paintings of witches were done for a woman that didn’t believe in superstition. Look at his Caprichos series. “El sueño de la razón produce monstruos” which translates to “ The sleep of reason produces monsters” There’s a lot of satire.

    @oscarvalencia6552@oscarvalencia65525 ай бұрын
    • Great comment Oscar I fw Goya heavy

      @Lucas-ig5ke@Lucas-ig5ke5 ай бұрын
    • Excellent vibes only from the Goya fans, gotta love it 🫶🏻🤙🏻

      @Garnerian@Garnerian5 ай бұрын
    • Did you heard that guy saying goya was german😂

      @Voyasermama@Voyasermama4 ай бұрын
  • Shane gotta be the best comic around, historically versed and hilarious the whole time. Main reason I love his history times on MSSP

    @LilSplashPad@LilSplashPad5 ай бұрын
    • Strongly disagree.. bet you’re a tHeO vOn fan, too

      @Krashout00@Krashout005 ай бұрын
    • @@Krashout00no one asked

      @edoggy327@edoggy3275 ай бұрын
    • Your cringe 😉

      @stringbender3@stringbender35 ай бұрын
    • he's just a precursor to being republican bud

      @wizkhalifasmoke@wizkhalifasmoke5 ай бұрын
    • Joe still doesn't realize only Meatheads like him give a fuck about Bud lights marketing

      @stephenhurd1489@stephenhurd14895 ай бұрын
  • The museum with Goya's black paintings is incredible, but you also see his earlier works which were so happy and beautiful. My favorite was Colossus, incredible painting to see in person.

    @stephenmason9527@stephenmason9527Ай бұрын
  • The Versailles Treaty was the reason for WW2. Not a single country in this planet would have accept this in Germanys position! WW2 was the most predictable of them all!

    @EverybodysDarling@EverybodysDarling5 ай бұрын
  • Lord of the Rings was inspired by Tokien's time in the trenches of WW1. Robert Heinlein was inspired to write Starship Troopers from his time in the American navy in WW2. He served in the Atlantic so a ton of his writing contains descriptions of men coming back to "spaceships" after getting ripped to shreds in whatever war they engaged in.

    @StevenCarusone@StevenCarusone5 ай бұрын
    • It’s finally completed: kzhead.info/sun/nZahf8h9aGZ5q5E/bejne.htmlsi=zvKhYkcEbCrZmxPW

      @d1boundkj@d1boundkj5 ай бұрын
    • Hitler was inspired by his experience with jews

      @weeb3277@weeb32775 ай бұрын
    • ​@@dant3175 war is when the most advanced animals on this earth decide to organize and kill eachother. War used to be ceremonial till the industrial revolution, then it kept getting worse.

      @deadmeatjb@deadmeatjb5 ай бұрын
    • @@dant3175 I think that's sort of a distorted perspective...on a distorted perspective. I get what you mean, I think, and yes, war is definitely one of the most extreme experiences you can have, but to say that some combat veteran below the age of 20 knows more about life than someone in their 50s just seems wrong. War likely teaches certain things really hard and fast, but its extremeness also means that it's pretty limited when it comes to teaching many other, more commonly shared things in life. Furthermore, I'm sure what a young combat veteran thinks he knows about life after one tour is different from what an older combat veteran with multiple tours, then several years out of war to reflect, knows about life, so age is still a factor. To put it another way, while I'd love to listen to and learn from your example of an 18-year-old Ukrainian kid who's seen combat, I think I'd end up learning a lot more from some average Joe who's had multiple jobs, lived in different places, and had children, then grandchildren.

      @CornyBum@CornyBum5 ай бұрын
    • the "lord of the rings" can be the planet saturn too

      @imjdog@imjdog5 ай бұрын
  • Being a history nerd myself I love listening when Shane comes on and speaks about these things. Edit: I’m aware he doesn’t paint the whole picture when it comes to context but it’s funny to listen to him speak about history. If you know history well enough yourself you can plug in the missing pieces or do some of you need to be spoon fed everything?

    @masonharkness6437@masonharkness64375 ай бұрын
    • Yeah man. He genuinely seems like a pretty good dude to sit down with and drink beers

      @Savage-Henry@Savage-Henry5 ай бұрын
    • Yeah he's very relateable, this is exactly how most regular guys speak about history. I still think him and Louise should team up with a based history podcaster like Carlin or Martyr Made and do a once a month podcast or even just a limited series, it would do serious numbers surely. The history guy has to be based though because some ghey liberal history cuck going "akshually" every ten minutes would ruin it.

      @ws8061@ws80615 ай бұрын
    • @ws8061 look up 'The Presidents pts. 1-4'. It's Louis and Shane (but, mostly Louis holding court) discussing all the presidents. Pretty cool

      @2116sassafrass@2116sassafrass5 ай бұрын
    • @@ws8061start the clock when the homies sit down over some beers, it’s only a matter of time historical discussion/debate fires up.

      @bigdaddylongschl0ngf882@bigdaddylongschl0ngf8825 ай бұрын
    • He barely knows what he’s talking about. He has a baseline understanding of WW1, maybe by American standards it’s above average

      @joebaker7788@joebaker77885 ай бұрын
  • I really want a docu-series of shane gillis going through history. That would be amazing.

    @jimichanga4760@jimichanga47603 ай бұрын
  • Goya is one of my favorites painters. Especially his “black period” series.

    @Hewlett-Packard-Lovecraft@Hewlett-Packard-Lovecraft5 ай бұрын
  • When I see Shane on JRE my day just gets better

    @Wolfblaz13@Wolfblaz135 ай бұрын
    • Hes better on his own. Especially with Tim dillon. Warmode Especially Dan soder

      @ron.hertzberg@ron.hertzberg5 ай бұрын
    • IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

      @PSi-fp8ve@PSi-fp8ve5 ай бұрын
    • The should mention that it was countries getting rid of their people for corporate interests. Kinda like we get rid of voters in Ukraine.

      @Mr.EeToMyself@Mr.EeToMyself5 ай бұрын
    • I’m watching this before Toshes episode so there’s that

      @PayDray@PayDray5 ай бұрын
    • @@ron.hertzbergI like how you don’t even mention his actual podcast with Matt lmao gtfoh

      @itzsamic@itzsamic5 ай бұрын
  • I remember watching the first episode with Shane and how hard he tried to get Joe to accept him and now, he's like "shut up Joe." "Is what I'm saying for this podcast?" love it. Way to be the man Shane!😂

    @anthonybeltran6144@anthonybeltran61445 ай бұрын
    • Just following bull burrs lead.

      @kevinfry1850@kevinfry18505 ай бұрын
    • Started from the krab swirl now we're here

      @TheGhostOfFredZeppelin@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin5 ай бұрын
  • Would love for Shane to do a history podcast or series!! 🤞🏻

    @justmelanie152@justmelanie1525 ай бұрын
    • U should listen to his Podcast MSSP with Louis CK, they go through every president of the United States in detail

      @kingofoblivion1822@kingofoblivion1822Ай бұрын
    • @@kingofoblivion1822 have definitely seen those!

      @justmelanie152@justmelanie152Ай бұрын
  • I love Shane Gillis. History buff, comedian, and Birds fan.

    @thegolffreak@thegolffreak4 ай бұрын
  • Dan Carlin's podcast on WW1 "Blueprint for Armageddon" is the best on the subject that I've ever experienced. It's immersive, thorough, and explains the political, technological, military, and human experience for a conflict that is difficult to study and understand

    @Drew_McTygue@Drew_McTygue5 ай бұрын
    • Dan Carlin is excellent. The way he talks about how you would see every stage of human decay from allies who had died that day to allies who had died months ago but they couldn't get out to clear the bodies really stuck with me. It also blew my mind that they would go home for a couple of weeks and then have to go back to that!

      @lukesball1@lukesball15 ай бұрын
    • Agree - masterful his-storytelling!! 👏

      @ingehoffman7313@ingehoffman73135 ай бұрын
    • Where can I find it? It’s not coming up in any of my searches…

      @anangrymanatee8830@anangrymanatee88305 ай бұрын
    • Iink?

      @genises200@genises2005 ай бұрын
    • @@anangrymanatee8830 its no longer on youtube or spotify im pretty sure its now locked behind a paywall on his website. Though i remember it being a really good story, he embellishes a little and uses some common myths but he is a very very good story teller and researcher for the most part.

      @aussiemilitant4486@aussiemilitant44865 ай бұрын
  • The Korean War is truly the forgotten war lol

    @pacotaco99@pacotaco995 ай бұрын
    • and Vietnam "barely counts"?

      @tomd7995@tomd79955 ай бұрын
    • I’m sitting here waiting for one of them to mention the Korean War myself.

      @Philz1925@Philz19255 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Philz1925same

      @BabaYagaRacing@BabaYagaRacing5 ай бұрын
    • ​@tomd7995 500,000 deployed US troops lol

      @doin_fine@doin_fine5 ай бұрын
    • im not sure what your trying to say?@@doin_fine

      @tomd7995@tomd79955 ай бұрын
  • Shane is actually such a learned interesting person. Loves the arts and history but yet doesn’t feel the need to die his hair blue lol. Very happy to see him succeeding and wish him all the best

    @IkarusTheFallen@IkarusTheFallen4 ай бұрын
    • Is your picture of everyone interested in art and history as people who ‘feel the need to dye their hair blue’ ?

      @BallsOfCheese95@BallsOfCheese954 ай бұрын
    • No cause I’m the same way I just feel it’s become trendy to say you’re an artist when in reality you do nothing truly creative. Just a disproportionate amount of people who have no knowledge or skills just want to look the part when in reality it’s regular guys like Shane who are soo much more interesting without trying just having genuine interest

      @IkarusTheFallen@IkarusTheFallen4 ай бұрын
    • theres a weird, annoying elitism on both sides of that spectrum. The ones that dye their hair blue to flaunt their "love of the arts" to everyone, and the ones who love the arts but instead flaunt that they dont feel the need t dye their hair blue and dont shut the fuck up about it

      @euro51116@euro511164 ай бұрын
  • I love the excuses Rohan’s using to not watch “all quiet on …” lmao “I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night having anxiety over the wars.”

    @Drey_doll@Drey_doll3 ай бұрын
  • Shane hitting Joe with the “pause” when he was describing that kick to the head around 27-28 min mark in this pod is one of the funniest moments in recent JRE

    @onlyrealmusicgonnalast@onlyrealmusicgonnalast5 ай бұрын
    • Bro said Chandler was “a ball of tense muscle just exploding on your face”. You got me to watch the podcast just to see it. Great episode too.

      @redbaron5308@redbaron53085 ай бұрын
  • These topics are why I love shane. For some reason I remember learning about goya in college and he makes it feel like it was worth it now.

    @derekhotzler5897@derekhotzler58975 ай бұрын
  • Goya painting of Murat crushing the Madrid uprising w the Mamelukes is pretty gnarly

    @toochangz@toochangz5 ай бұрын
  • Shane gilles teaching me about WW1 and getting me interested in napoleonic art wasn’t on my 2023 bingo card, but here we are

    @inertiaMS@inertiaMS4 ай бұрын
  • shane is one of the greatest comedians ever, yet these kind of conversations are just as entertaining as his comedy

    @ryanh1275@ryanh12755 ай бұрын
    • He’s really not. He’s the best of a bunch of bad comedians.

      @user-er8kz2jg6o@user-er8kz2jg6o5 ай бұрын
    • @@user-er8kz2jg6o no he’s good lol, both his specials were very funny

      @ryanh1275@ryanh12755 ай бұрын
    • @@user-er8kz2jg6o you're just the best of a bunch of bad sperm

      @brettpid6416@brettpid64165 ай бұрын
    • ​I really kind of hate the second one. Seems kind of fake and hammered out if you ask me. Also, more importantly, it barely got a chuckle out of me mckuskers was even worse. But i kind of knew it would be. Matts a really funny podcast host/guest not a standup comedian. .​@@ryanh1275

      @Antiluls@Antiluls5 ай бұрын
    • Not funny at all to me personally but objectively speaking I can see how others would think the opposite. Nothing wrong with that & comedians, we all have different sense of humors.

      @JM-ze7jn@JM-ze7jn4 ай бұрын
  • I appreciate how into history Shane is. You can tell he is genuinely interested in historica topics. He's clearly passionate about the subject and Joe honestly seems like a good friend oooohing and ahhhing at something a friend is talking about that you have no interest in lol.

    @tombosley3048@tombosley30485 ай бұрын
  • I love that Shane knows about painters and Goya of them all makes me happy makes me smile

    @_Lust_@_Lust_3 ай бұрын
  • Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Blueprint for Armageddon episodes about WW1 are an absolute must for anyone interested in WW1. Such an absolute horror that easily gets overshadowed by WW2.

    @RamsTalk@RamsTalk5 ай бұрын
  • Rod Serling who was the host of The Twilight Zone was in the 11th Airborne in WWII and walked with a limp from shrapnel in his knee. Many of the episodes were based on things he saw in the war or nightmares he had afterwards

    @wagstag89@wagstag895 ай бұрын
    • 'Deathshead Revisited' is one of my favorite episodes of 'The Twilight Zone' and was inspired by Rod Serling, a Jew himself, witnessing the concentration camps himself.

      @marlonmoncrieffe0728@marlonmoncrieffe07285 ай бұрын
  • Yooooo a surprise Gillis episode of JRE on a Tuesday morning, just what I needed to get through this delivery shift

    @talbotd27@talbotd275 ай бұрын
    • Be safe out there

      @alexandervelilla191@alexandervelilla1915 ай бұрын
  • Shane is the first jre guest I ever saw bringing up fine art. Mad respect

    @neggit2063@neggit2063Ай бұрын
  • Saturn Devouring His Son in El Prado is crazy impactful in person. So dark. When you walk into the room with that one you feel it.

    @MattH-wg7ou@MattH-wg7ou5 ай бұрын
  • I love Goya, never thought it would be a topic between these dudes. Shane has some depth

    @charlcoetzee93@charlcoetzee935 ай бұрын
  • A history prof of mine once said that we can look at the period from the beginning of WWI to the end of WWII as one big war with an economic war in between the two armed conflicts.

    @robcostigan8757@robcostigan87575 ай бұрын
  • Shane has the craziest most refined taste in history and art. True buff. Goya is the absolute GOAT

    @mick16wtf@mick16wtf5 ай бұрын
    • calm down . he knows some basic partial history . its cool to know about stuff , but your comment couldn't be more hyperbolic and down right ridiculous .

      @kirbyd@kirbyd5 ай бұрын
  • Shane brings out the best side of Joe to where I actually enjoy watching JRE again

    @MrCubannn@MrCubannn5 ай бұрын
  • What I love about Otto Dix’s and the German Expressionist movement is how haunted it all is. Everything is jagged, crooked and contorted. It feels like a genuine nightmare that could have only come from men who had fought in one of the most brutal yet pointless wars in history

    @MetalWolfKaiju@MetalWolfKaiju5 ай бұрын
    • He mentioned Otto dix in this clip

      @zinkarius7@zinkarius75 ай бұрын
    • The war wasn't pointless for those that started it. It kept the powers that were in power. It is good to be the king. The peons dying in the trenches weren't going to have meaningful lives anyways.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred5 ай бұрын
  • Came here for WWI, stayed for the Goya Black Paintings. Fucking love the story behind them.

    @placebo5466@placebo54665 ай бұрын
  • All quiet on the western front is free on audible, it’s an amazing book

    @Killin_365@Killin_3654 ай бұрын
  • The budlight deflection was Shane keeping his bottom line… so happy for Shane btw. He more than deserves the mainstream appreciation

    @jennajay7034@jennajay70342 ай бұрын
  • Shane looks like a football coach doing an apology tour

    @DannySullivanMusic@DannySullivanMusic5 ай бұрын
    • Fucking incredible 😂

      @sthubbins4038@sthubbins40385 ай бұрын
    • WE GOT GUYS

      @sir0nion@sir0nion5 ай бұрын
  • Francisco goyas painting are amazing. I saw them at the prado museum in Madrid. Amazing how big and cool looking they are

    @rockerpirate@rockerpirate5 ай бұрын
  • Shane really seems like everyone’s favorite history teacher with how much he actually knows it’s dope

    @sethfrazier828@sethfrazier8284 ай бұрын
    • he really is built in a lab to be somebody's high school football coach that teaches one school-mandated history class and is weirdly good at it

      @MorphingMandrel@MorphingMandrel2 ай бұрын
  • Ok, this is something i wasn't expecting from Shane. The fact he knows about one of the most important painters in history, is mindblowing...

    @mancominiaturas@mancominiaturasАй бұрын
  • Shane is one of the best guests, I still remember his 1st appearance and I'm glad he's on more. Rogan and him are great together

    @daniellarosa8144@daniellarosa81445 ай бұрын
  • I'm very very into history and fine art. Im so suprised Gillis of all comedians, not only knows but appreciates Goya ❤

    @emilykrivak5591@emilykrivak55915 ай бұрын
  • I definitely prefer listening to history than comedy any day.

    @IrishTechnicalThinker@IrishTechnicalThinker4 ай бұрын
  • I love when Shane talks history

    @lynxharpthorn7764@lynxharpthorn77645 ай бұрын
    • He talked to most shit tho. He talked so much shit lol

      @Retrohunter1994@Retrohunter19945 ай бұрын
  • They were basically forced to go to war, and forced to die. A great comedy series set during WW1 is "Blackadder Goes Forth", which outlines the ridiculous futility of the whole thing and how stupid humans are. Well worth a watch 🌟🌟🌟🌟

    @redeyegooner@redeyegooner5 ай бұрын
    • Well HURRAH with shiny brass knobs on

      @WD-41469@WD-414695 ай бұрын
    • I would also recommend a polish movie: "Jak rozpętałem trzecią wojnę światową"

      @TomaszOdkrywca@TomaszOdkrywca5 ай бұрын
    • The greatest end to a television show, ever, bar none. The entirety of that last episode is a masterpiece. Anyone can watch it start to finish now and get emotional having never seen a single episode before.

      @dextersynesterformerlysorb5334@dextersynesterformerlysorb53345 ай бұрын
    • a tale so sad it must only be told in a comedy series lol

      @Kento_nanami_the_2nd@Kento_nanami_the_2nd5 ай бұрын
    • Do we feel sad because they all died. Or do we feel sad that we will never know if we would have had the courage to have been them?​@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334

      @marccas10@marccas105 ай бұрын
  • Good old Joey and Shane just ripping on WW1 soldiers 😂 what a good time

    @MrMiller27@MrMiller275 ай бұрын
  • Dan Carlin's pods on WW1 was incredible!

    @chrystoni2269@chrystoni22695 ай бұрын
  • I love learning my history from Shane. He should make a KZhead channel or podcast where he explains major events in history while getting drunk and making jokes

    @kwedd5823@kwedd58235 ай бұрын
    • You've probably seen his four part eight hours of podcasting with Lious CK where they cover every president of the United States from 1776 to present. Anyone who hasn't watched it should check it out.

      @acetate909@acetate9095 ай бұрын
    • Best podcast ever@@acetate909

      @mleew77@mleew775 ай бұрын
    • @@acetate909 I have not! That’s sounds awesome

      @kwedd5823@kwedd58235 ай бұрын
    • @@kwedd5823look up their podcast on Thomas Francis Meagher. Another great history episode

      @joshmartinez3311@joshmartinez33115 ай бұрын
    • just watch the various documentaries on youtube about history. that's probably where he got atleast some of his information, most of the documentaries are pretty well done.

      @henlohenlo689@henlohenlo6895 ай бұрын
  • Shane Gillis, Professor of History and Arts

    @AustrianCitizen@AustrianCitizen5 ай бұрын
    • IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

      @PSi-fp8ve@PSi-fp8ve5 ай бұрын
    • Professor of the Dark Arts. Or is that Theo Von 😂😂

      @rdcruick@rdcruick5 ай бұрын
    • More like history and farts! 😂

      @chadgrov@chadgrov5 ай бұрын
    • He’s more versed than the average American, but that’s not saying much. The British empire started WWI to destroy the prosperous and soon to be powerful Germany. If you’re interested in the actual world changing events, Read- Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War Or listen to James Corbett and his guest discuss the book on- The Corbett Report. History is written by the victors- the Roman/British/American empire. That doesn’t make their stories true.

      @WontSeeReplies@WontSeeReplies5 ай бұрын
  • This is the shit I watch Joe Rogan for. Two comedians discussing terrors of war and art!

    @alainerookkitsunev5605@alainerookkitsunev56055 ай бұрын
  • I love learning history from Shane & Joe!

    @bassguitarislife3419@bassguitarislife34194 ай бұрын
  • The comedic instincts the start singing "It aint nuthin, but a good time" when discussing trench war fare and wolves eating soldiers is why Shane Gillis is one of the best doing it right now.

    @MisterShiznilty@MisterShiznilty5 ай бұрын
  • Shane keeps me entertained because he knows a little bit about everything but is able to just bring up entertaining stuff.

    @tc7584@tc75845 ай бұрын
    • And then Joe connects it to something stupid like bud light

      @MatchlessConcepts@MatchlessConcepts4 ай бұрын
  • 'fight with cudgels' is my favourite of Goyas Black Paintings because its not as dark in terms of imagery and emotion yet it still shows similar form to the others, less freak tho

    @cameronlamb1869@cameronlamb18696 күн бұрын
  • shane gillis has insanely good memory of history class

    @beezyburna@beezyburna2 ай бұрын
  • Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that WW1 wasn’t really about the assassination. Each nation had their own goals and Germany had been looking to make a move anyway, the killing of the archduke was just what set everything off.

    @Drewe223@Drewe2235 ай бұрын
    • WW1 started because of an unwillingness of those in power to stop the dominoes from falling. Sure, each country had its share of warhawks and revanchists, but could've been kept in check by stronger leaders.

      @reyson01@reyson015 ай бұрын
    • Pretty much. Germany was a fairly new country, all the old European dynasties fully expected a war with this 'upstart', it was brewing for a long time and everyone knew it. Serbia and Austria-Hungary were basically irrelevant backwaters at that point but they provided the excuse to settle old scores with 'legal' justification. Hard-core history had a great series on it if you have 20 hours

      @devongarden3485@devongarden34855 ай бұрын
    • yeah man i don't think Joe or Shane have that firm of a grasp on this, I mean Joe literally said "what started WWI", he knows less than your average highschooler.

      @joesizzle10@joesizzle105 ай бұрын
    • Nationalism, international arms race, secret alliances. Cousin rivalry's. Germany being a newly established nation being envious of rest of europes colonies, Balkan's being a powder keg plenty of factors led to the war

      @smith9157@smith91575 ай бұрын
    • I don't think anyone even wanted the war. Russia had to protect the Balkans. Germany had to appear to be on side with UK/ France but UK/ France were literally on the side of Russia. So Germany kinda got squeezed. They wanted to attack the Balkans but weren't too bothered but there was too much posturing and eventually the armies that had been amassed just had to get used. UK/ France were trying to ask Russia to chill. Germany was trying to ask UK/ France to chill. UK/ France/ Russia were trying to get Germany to chill. It just didn't need to happen. Basically, if there is ever trouble in the Balkans everyone should just step back and let it happen.

      @BadgerUKvideo@BadgerUKvideo5 ай бұрын
  • We need another Netflix set Shane I’m already fiending for more

    @Skateandcreate9@Skateandcreate95 ай бұрын
  • The black paintings are in the Museo Del Prado in Madrid.

    @polydactylproductions6787@polydactylproductions67875 ай бұрын
  • I liked the part at 9:50 when Jamie was moving the mouse back and forth over Goya's "The Dentist" painting hoping that they would notice it.

    @user-vr4fe1mx6x@user-vr4fe1mx6x3 ай бұрын
  • It's cool that Haley Joel Osment grew up to be a historian.

    @jopo7996@jopo79965 ай бұрын
    • I like to eat Goya beans 🫛

      @stephenhurd1489@stephenhurd14895 ай бұрын
    • We meet again

      @stringbender3@stringbender35 ай бұрын
    • 😂😂😂

      @shanerob5414@shanerob54145 ай бұрын
    • Because he looks like him, but grown up!

      @BillyReplies@BillyReplies5 ай бұрын
  • I have more understanding of American and Western history than of my own country Nepal. All hail to The Dawg!!

    @binodbhujel9610@binodbhujel96105 ай бұрын
  • Shane cracks Rogan up laughing every single time ! I just watched save our parks 10! Joe just loves him

    @samicherif8796@samicherif87964 ай бұрын
  • Never expected this but 1000% here for it

    @TheMarshmelloKing@TheMarshmelloKing3 ай бұрын
  • My great- great uncle was in World War 1, fighting for Canada 🇨🇦, he was from a small village outside Quebec City. They didn't really diagnose PTSD at that time. I believe they call it "shell shock." Long story short, around 1920 or '21, he told his relatives that he was going to the market to get milk, and bread, and that he never came back home. Rumor was that he committed su***de, by jumping off the bridge. I never knew the person's name, but the story has been passed down over the last century. R.I.P.

    @seanmcnally4818@seanmcnally48185 ай бұрын
  • Shane really surprised me here with his history and art knowledge. Good man

    @frapelloso@frapelloso5 ай бұрын
    • Yea it's like he took history in high school or something, and then read some Wiki pages about an artist, such amazing depth of knowledge....

      @thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261@thert.hon.thelordnicholson72615 ай бұрын
    • @@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 he has a history degree

      @MorphingMandrel@MorphingMandrel2 ай бұрын
  • Goya black paintings and the story of them is so interesting

    @user-gq1mq5cm1n@user-gq1mq5cm1n5 ай бұрын
  • The young bull dropping art history facts. Sick

    @erksmkgerks2298@erksmkgerks22985 ай бұрын
  • Best comedian in Texas back on JRE

    @mr.Swartz@mr.Swartz5 ай бұрын
    • Nah that's Hans Kim 😂

      @fuckamericanidiot@fuckamericanidiot5 ай бұрын
  • Both of them need to do some reading up on WW1+2

    @Quadman72@Quadman725 ай бұрын
  • The hundred years had several interludes, one as long as the interbellum period in the early 20th century. Future historians might take a similar view to the period between 1870 and 1991 and label it something like "The wars of German unification".

    @HENN3H@HENN3H5 ай бұрын
  • As an artist I absolutely love Shane's facination with Goya and Dix

    @gutrum_vagner@gutrum_vagner3 ай бұрын
  • I love comedian Shane, but i could listen to historian Shane for hours and hours and enjoy it more.

    @gabriellynch2764@gabriellynch27645 ай бұрын
  • They took us to the Prado Museum - got to see a lot of Goyas. It made a lifelong impression and we learned a lot from the museo. It was awesome

    @ianrowland463@ianrowland4635 ай бұрын
  • I've never seen someone with Down syndrom so knowledgeable about history

    @johnnydynamite6460@johnnydynamite64605 ай бұрын
  • this is basically drunk history

    @byronhotchkiss3254@byronhotchkiss32544 ай бұрын
  • “Saturn Devouring his Son” my fave Goya painting. Master of horror

    @davidjosh5640@davidjosh56405 ай бұрын
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