KZhead

How to Find a Fault on a Ring Final Circuit (Sockets) Help for AM2 & AM2S Testing and Fault Finding

GSH Electrical
2024 ж. 28 Сәу.
219 505 Рет қаралды
Жүктеу

How to find fault on a ring final circuit sometime called a ring circuit or ring main. Using a Megger MFT tester Marcus sets about finding an open circuit after carrying out stage one testing end to ends. Marcus show you how to split the ring circuit into 2 radial circuits and then test each leg until you find the faulty socket is identified.
Please note there are many different ways to find this type of fault...
Electrical fault finding
== 🕐 Time Stamps - Cut to the action 🕕 ==
00:00 - Ring circuit fault
00:09 - Fault finding on a ring final circuit sometimes called a ring main
00:36 - Open circuit on our ring final neutrals
01:25 - End to end testing line, CPC and neutral
02:57 - Making the ring final circuit into a radial to help with fault finding
03:58 - Testing at every socket outlet looking for continuity between line and neutral
05:27 - Making the ring final circuit into a radial to help with fault finding
06:07 - Identifying the socket or area that has the fault on it
07:07 - The socket with the neutral fault is identified
🔵 How to Test a Ring Final Circuit - Ring Main or Socket Circuit - Ring Continuity & Polarity Tests • How to Test a Ring Fin...
Videos are training aids for City and Guilds (C and G) and EAL courses Level 1, 2, 3 plus AM2, AM2S and AM2E.
You can follow me day by day on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok lookout for "GSH Electrical.
▶️ FACEBOOK / gshelectrical
▶️ INSTAGRAM / brihzmraygdtmjmdb9lunq...
▶️ TWITTER / gsh_electrical
▶️ TikTok vm.tiktok.com/ZMRBLFdhe/
#GSHElectrical #Electricaltrainingvideos #electricaltesting

Пікірлер

  • How to Test a Ring Final Circuit - Ring Main or Socket Circuit - Ring Continuity & Polarity Tests kzhead.info/sun/iMmsiayOqox6YH0/bejne.html

    @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

    • I come across this fault while doing an EICR, didnt have time to find the fault, so C2/FI'd it and failed the EICR to the house. Was I right in doing this?

      @DS-cp3fg@DS-cp3fg Жыл бұрын

  • Hi, I have my 2365 level 3 fault finding and test and inspection exams on Wednesday and your videos are so so helpful, thanks. At the age of 51 and a complete career change this may help me keep me up to speed with fault finding on the course and beyond. For everyone out there you are never too old to change careers!

    @barriemcrae2947@barriemcrae294710 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the fantastic comment 👍🏻. Gaz and Marcus

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical10 ай бұрын

  • Really good and simple way of demonstrating how to find faults in ring finals, as my tutors at college use a different method which is way more complicated but yours is really easy to understand which was needed as I'm sitting my fault finding assessment tomorrow

    @Ibrehas@Ibrehas4 күн бұрын

    • Thanks 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical4 күн бұрын

  • It's great you give the apprentice some fault finding teaching. At least it gives them a place to start at 👍👍. I have come across many a fault in my time 👍

    @johnwaby4321@johnwaby432125 күн бұрын

  • I started watching your video from level 1 and here I’m doing level 3 I didn’t struggle throughout all the way because of your perfect videos.thank so much for both of you!

    @simonmogos546@simonmogos5463 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks for the support and I am glad we could help 🦾. Gaz

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

  • Very well presented and an invaluable tool regardless of experience. Thanks guys. I would definitely like to see more of this style. Much appreciated as always.

    @petertallowin6406@petertallowin64064 жыл бұрын

  • I’m doing the 5357 C&G Apprenticeship, this video has been some help! My college is an absolute embarrassment, they never do anything to this level of detail. Thank you so much for making this available to me to learn from. I worry about my AM2s because I’m not getting the proper practical experience :/

    @Randrew998@Randrew9984 жыл бұрын

    • Randrew hi, keep working hard it has its rewards. All the best Gaz 👍

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical4 жыл бұрын

    • Which college do you go to mate?

      @striker1258@striker1258 Жыл бұрын

    • Did u pass lol

      @oliviab1185@oliviab1185 Жыл бұрын

    • @@striker1258 Bracknell & Wokingham

      @Randrew998@Randrew998 Жыл бұрын

    • @@oliviab1185 I did my own research and learning and passed yes thanks! Hope you pass too

      @Randrew998@Randrew998 Жыл бұрын

  • Please do more of these 😁 thanks guys, really helpful

    @thomasbyles3075@thomasbyles30754 жыл бұрын

  • Great video mate, brilliantly explained and I appreciate the fact you ask questions that leaners would ask.

    @SirajulIslam-yg3zp@SirajulIslam-yg3zp3 жыл бұрын

  • Great video!!! Would love to see more fault finding related videos please!

    @alanmarriott9216@alanmarriott92164 жыл бұрын

    • On maybe lighting if possible?

      @phone07915657213@phone079156572132 жыл бұрын

  • Nice video. Separated as 2 radials. You could tell it was the wiring in the socket because a reading at the socket was not detected over either leg. All sockets would give readings over both legs if the cable was damaged in the wall, the highest reading at the socket on each leg denotes end of line, the break is between those 2 sockets. Test continuity between sockets to confirm.

    @Jp-rp3ds@Jp-rp3ds Жыл бұрын

  • More videos please! looking to book my AM2 soon so these videos are absolutely helpful. Thanks 👍🏼

    @campo2309@campo23093 жыл бұрын

  • Had this problem to solve in a recent job interview. Totally forgot how to do it. These videos are great if you become a little unskilled during your career and need a little refresher.

    @gileskettering8008@gileskettering80082 жыл бұрын

    • We are made up they have helped 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • It would be most excellent if you guys done more fault finding , ..great work guys..thank you

    @rusrus29@rusrus294 жыл бұрын

  • Great practical demonstration and advise for fault finding, great video very handy learning reference 👍

    @davidroche6973@davidroche69734 жыл бұрын

  • Thank you . Loving these fault finding videos

    @andrewyeo2353@andrewyeo23534 жыл бұрын

  • Fantastic demonstration Always learn something and it’s good to refresh your memories and keep on top of it. Fantastic video guy’s as always 👍👍❤️

    @seandempsey7351@seandempsey73512 жыл бұрын

  • Excellent tutorial by the young man- all testament to you Gaz (along with the College)

    @abdulseaforth6930@abdulseaforth69304 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks for the lovely message 👍

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical4 жыл бұрын

  • Mint technique!! Need more!!!!!

    @Webbster77@Webbster774 жыл бұрын

  • Excellent video, thanks guys, really enjoying these videos on fault finding.

    @brightspark263@brightspark2634 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks for the support. Gaz 👍

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical4 жыл бұрын

  • Excellent video. That’s the way I used to train my Apprentice 👍

    @stewben1169@stewben11694 жыл бұрын

  • 'Very Very excellent' I understand the principle 100%. Really useful.

    @MrChelek@MrChelek3 жыл бұрын

  • Great video... Something that you find quite often during an EICR 👍

    @thomasphipps5133@thomasphipps51333 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

  • Thanks Gaz and Marcus. As a learner anything in fault finding is a great help. Any chance you could do a video on using IR to fault find on a ring (final!!) circuit?

    @no_short_circuit@no_short_circuit4 жыл бұрын

  • Good stuff! This video has been some great help 😃👍 more fault finding videos please Gaz!

    @mariuskiudulas4498@mariuskiudulas44983 жыл бұрын

  • Excellent demo gents.well done

    @train4905@train49054 жыл бұрын

  • Really appreciated, how nicely and briefly you’re explaining these stuff. Admirable I just want to say if any chance you upload videos with subtitles, it will be help us more to understand, who can’t understand English properly. Thanks

    @israrahmed7735@israrahmed77353 жыл бұрын

  • Brilliant, really helpful video! Much appreciated guys

    @Shawn-gw7ns@Shawn-gw7ns3 жыл бұрын

  • Wonderful clear demo. Thank you guys.

    @THECARKUS@THECARKUS2 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • Brilliant video as apprentice these videos are brilliant

    @dylanmckibbin8822@dylanmckibbin88228 ай бұрын

    • Massive thanks 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical8 ай бұрын

  • Nice one guys. You're videos have been realy helpful, and will continue to be so I'm sure

    @Kebabicide@Kebabicide3 жыл бұрын

    • Really 👍😁

      @Kebabicide@Kebabicide3 жыл бұрын

  • Great video. Very clear explanation. Thank you

    @nowthenad3286@nowthenad32862 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 ай бұрын

  • Fantastic video guys.

    @GiffordsElectrical@GiffordsElectrical4 жыл бұрын

  • Great video. Personally I'd find this far easier to understand with the addition of schematic diagrams, but the important question is whether your learners would find them helpful or confusing?

    @John_259@John_2594 жыл бұрын

  • Fault finding videos are where it's at folks! How about covering intermittent faults and line to earth faults due to damp in a socket (seems to be a big hit for me at the minute). Showing the quickest way to find both issues perhaps? There is quicker ways of finding faults rather than splitting down rings again and again for example

    @KDC_Electrical@KDC_Electrical3 жыл бұрын

  • Fantastic again.🙌

    @rowles13@rowles134 жыл бұрын

  • Great video this really cleared this up for me

    @vBeanz1@vBeanz19 ай бұрын

    • Thanks 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical9 ай бұрын

  • Fantastic information

    @maxwellmc9734@maxwellmc97349 ай бұрын

    • Thanks 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical9 ай бұрын

  • What a great, informative video

    @roccoskye5168@roccoskye51688 күн бұрын

    • Thanks

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical7 күн бұрын

  • Excellent video.

    @davidpatterson1574@davidpatterson15744 жыл бұрын

  • Loved this video both well done lads glad I'm a sparkie inspector now the cowboys now adays are unreal

    @ashvanbro9329@ashvanbro93292 жыл бұрын

  • Literally have this problem with my kitchen ring. Just 2 sockets stopped working even though one side of the ring still had power that was going to one of the mentioned sockets which I have since checked with the working side of the cable and it's fine...aah the joys 😂 just as I was away to tile my kitchen backsplash as well....something else for my misses to moan at me about 😅

    @singbob@singbob8 ай бұрын

  • This is very much the fault finding method I was taught in college but I get called out about three times a week now for tripping RCDs. There’s always continuity - it’s the LN-E IR that is always the issue. Never seen any tutorials on fault finding that!

    @TimmyBoja@TimmyBoja2 жыл бұрын

  • Brilliant video 👏🏽

    @EstNineteen90@EstNineteen902 жыл бұрын

  • Excellenty explained. How many students have put the 3.5mm faceplate screws, in their mouths when taking those faceplates off. 😮

    @jonnyduncan7056@jonnyduncan705625 күн бұрын

  • Thanks very much for examples God bless you.

    @rolandjackson9771@rolandjackson97712 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks for watching 👍

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • Quality! Thanks for the help ❤️🤙🏻

    @elliottirving5308@elliottirving53082 жыл бұрын

    • 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • praise the Lord bro GSH electrical, I am Allwyn Moraes working as an Electrical Technicians Thanks fr for your videos

    @altron77Uk@altron77Uk3 жыл бұрын

    • No problem 😁

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

  • Excellent demo. Could you do this for a high little rn reading?

    @simonhorton6679@simonhorton66794 жыл бұрын

  • Excellent instruction.

    @Robert-ts2ef@Robert-ts2ef3 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

  • Thanks for sharing

    @bennytung2883@bennytung28833 жыл бұрын

  • Thank you for excellent vlog

    @syedmaqureshi5590@syedmaqureshi5590 Жыл бұрын

    • Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical Жыл бұрын

  • Love the video!

    @directtradesupplies5818@directtradesupplies58184 жыл бұрын

  • Always helpful.

    @henrybartlett1986@henrybartlett19862 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks for the support 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • great video

    @richardcawrey@richardcawrey4 жыл бұрын

  • I learnt alot in this video 👍

    @sukhi17@sukhi172 жыл бұрын

  • Brilliant video 👍🏽

    @chrishamilton4172@chrishamilton41723 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks 🦾

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

  • well done great job

    @stacydrumm490@stacydrumm4903 жыл бұрын

  • Please we want more videos on fault finding techniques

    @danielteyehuago1633@danielteyehuago16333 жыл бұрын

  • Great vid once again, well explained. Thanks for sharing. 🐵

    @charliechimples@charliechimples3 жыл бұрын

  • Brilliant thank you :)

    @hitlerSS100@hitlerSS1003 жыл бұрын

  • I find these video's great addition to my course, can you do some of these using a TPN board

    @EdwardBretherton@EdwardBretherton3 ай бұрын

  • great help thank you

    @camysmith1729@camysmith17292 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • Great learning points here but also new style Kitchen 'Radials' also need to be taken into account

    @Mike_5@Mike_54 жыл бұрын

  • Nice one!! Just because its not tidy.. Doesn't mean it's not safe!!

    @GunnyRabbit@GunnyRabbit4 жыл бұрын

  • Great video

    @ElectricEssenceLtd@ElectricEssenceLtd Жыл бұрын

    • Thanks

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical Жыл бұрын

  • Be good to see a similar method chasing missing neutral in a lighting circuit 👍

    @hairybear2506@hairybear25064 жыл бұрын

    • Lighting is a radial. If there was a fault with the line or neutral the lights after the fault wouldn't work.

      @stuartarnold9444@stuartarnold94444 жыл бұрын

  • Great video, nice out-row, thumbs up from me!

    @Fifury161@Fifury1613 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks 👍

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

  • Thanks a lot for these videos, would the board not be isolated, even during fault finding? Cheers.

    @barney630@barney6303 жыл бұрын

  • Niceeee workkk

    @festokapinga342@festokapinga3424 жыл бұрын

  • Nice vid from Ivory Coast

    @religiousblackman697@religiousblackman6973 жыл бұрын

  • Beautiful beautiful beautiful

    @chelsea08FC@chelsea08FC3 ай бұрын

  • Nice tutorial. Could you have substituted the CPC for the Line when making the link for continuity ?

    @MikeSmith-tx2lp@MikeSmith-tx2lp Жыл бұрын

  • Can I ask then please. If installation is wired in conduit singles and legs arent marked up how can you determine them?

    @alanmarriott9216@alanmarriott92167 ай бұрын

  • Hi gus can you please make a fault finding video on two way and intermediate lighting aswel? Kind Regards

    @samarchaudhary2899@samarchaudhary28994 жыл бұрын

  • Hi GSH another great video! I’d like your advice if I can ask please on my options and a path to qualifying? I have 10 years experience in numerous building trades and maintenance. I worked closely with an elecsa registered electrician for 8years but never qualified myself. I hope to start by getting part P certified if that’s possible. I also have a strong academic background in Maths and Physics if that helps

    @Ashley-jb2rj@Ashley-jb2rj3 жыл бұрын

  • Could you please do video of level 3 design drawing 🙏

    @akezinoify@akezinoify4 жыл бұрын

  • Thanks

    @michaelbutler5439@michaelbutler5439 Жыл бұрын

    • Massive thanks for watching and the support for the channel. Gaz

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical Жыл бұрын

  • Have you joined line of one leg with neutral of other? And would it matter if you did or didn’t?

    @Webbster77@Webbster774 жыл бұрын

  • Wish you were my lecturer 👨‍🏫

    @faisalhussain589@faisalhussain5894 жыл бұрын

  • Hi, love the videos I'm taking my am2 in a couple of weeks are any more fault finding videos being uploaded? Thanks

    @sean1325@sean13252 жыл бұрын

    • Hi Sean - this playlist has video that are not public but can still be viewed 👍🏻 All the best with your exam. Gaz Electrical Testing and Fault Finding Videos City and Guilds 5357, 2365, AM2, AM2S and EAL Level 3 Diploma kzhead.info/channel/PL2Ea5r9gxUUfl2LnQ-eOEv2NESJ4ehoPt.html

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

    • AM2, AM2S and AM2E Electrical Apprentices End Point Assessment kzhead.info/channel/PL2Ea5r9gxUUd8ICP2I8OYRlaoO4bHsvTX.html

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

    • @@GSHElectrical Thanks Gaz appreciate your help! 👍

      @sean1325@sean13252 жыл бұрын

  • Great stuff - I have to do some fault finding for a client. The problem - no continuity on the neutrals!! Guess how I’m going to pinpoint where the problem is????

    @snail5967@snail59674 жыл бұрын

    • Isn't your house on a piece of wood 3 meters square?

      @MH-sf5ml@MH-sf5ml4 жыл бұрын

  • Great as always! Any plans to do fire alarms installation since not many on YT that l could find? Thks

    @phone07915657213@phone079156572132 жыл бұрын

    • Sadly fire alarm systems are not coved on the courses we deliver. Thanks for commenting and watching. Gaz 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical2 жыл бұрын

  • Hi Gaz can you make us one video for solar panel installation please

    @samarchaudhary2899@samarchaudhary28994 жыл бұрын

    • This type of video will appear on my eFIXX youtube channel at some point 👍. Thanks for commenting and watching. Gaz

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical4 жыл бұрын

  • Is there any videos to show testing when only 1 neutral for example is connected please?

    @alanmarriott9216@alanmarriott9216 Жыл бұрын

  • Hi, why didn’t the single socket have a reading when the other leg of the ring was in a connector block? Thanks

    @dale3736@dale37363 жыл бұрын

  • Could this be used for an open circuit on the CPC aswell

    @nigeldavies32@nigeldavies324 жыл бұрын

    • It would work as well

      @Webbster77@Webbster773 жыл бұрын

  • Thanks for the information, buh if i may ask why do you call the earthing line cpc? Please allow me to understand this! Thanks

    @peterjesus816@peterjesus816 Жыл бұрын

    • The circuit conductor that is green and yellow is the CPC circuit protective conductor 👍🏻

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical Жыл бұрын

    • @@GSHElectrical thanks plz God bless u

      @peterjesus816@peterjesus816 Жыл бұрын

  • Can I do this with a multi meter by placing the probes in the holes? Or would it shock me??

    @akirby2886@akirby28863 жыл бұрын

  • Cheers gents

    @noskills9577@noskills95774 жыл бұрын

  • Hi im having a problem in my salon all Sockets keep tripping The main fuse. If it is a wire behind The wall thats damaged would i have to knock the wall out to refit wire agian? Ot can that socket just be disconnected amd not used? X

    @jemmarichardson6614@jemmarichardson66142 жыл бұрын

  • Should the end to end readings not be less?

    @abeelarshad3453@abeelarshad3453Ай бұрын

  • Or even some content on heating systems/wiring/fault finding as find it’s never covered enough when in the syllabus

    @alanmarriott9216@alanmarriott92164 жыл бұрын

    • Thanks Alan, got some videos on DOL both single and 3 phase coming soon 👍.

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical4 жыл бұрын

    • GSH Electrical Nice one mate. Just saying since qualified have come across lots of jobs with hating system faults and feel it’s something not covered deep enough in learning programme.

      @alanmarriott9216@alanmarriott92164 жыл бұрын

    • @@alanmarriott9216 it's because in reality you can't disconnect all items on circuit and youre never sure if it's a fault you're finding or some resistance on an electronic item

      @MH-sf5ml@MH-sf5ml4 жыл бұрын

  • Will there be anymore fault finding videos soon?

    @joshaldred24@joshaldred243 жыл бұрын

    • We are working on new content all the time but have been limited by lockdown 👍. Thanks for commenting. Gaz

      @GSHElectrical@GSHElectrical3 жыл бұрын

    • @@GSHElectrical Thank you Can i ask a question? When performing a pfc test in your am2 do you put the megga tester on L-PE and then with the leads clamp on to the main earth with the green probe, blue probe on the neutral then with the red lead go across all phases and double your highest reading and then divide it by 1000 to convert KA into A

      @joshaldred24@joshaldred243 жыл бұрын

  • let’s say you do the end to end on the live for example then and you get a really high resistance reading, how would you go about locating the fault then using the ohms setting as this is the only setting your allowed to use in AM2

    @claytonharris5599@claytonharris559917 күн бұрын

  • the council sent some kind of electrician to do an electrical safety test, - he found that the ring main (on my mums flat) has a fault! ...but did not have one of those testers (I want one! ;) )... this winter, when I am bored, I might fix it...

    @ANTHONYBOOTH@ANTHONYBOOTH6 ай бұрын

  • You mention that this is one approach to determining the location of a broken conductor. Would you care to list the others?

    @pauljohncross@pauljohncross2 жыл бұрын

  • how can u have continuity between live ant neutral ????

    @papillonbougie7080@papillonbougie7080 Жыл бұрын

  • I have a socket that only has 59ac any suggestions

    @iancampbell3202@iancampbell3202 Жыл бұрын

  • Help. My double socket radial circ. is tripping my 16A rcbo b type when I plug my new iron in when I plug my tumble dryer in or anything else in it is ok however before you say it is the iron when I plug the iron in any other socket in the house it is ok what will it be Come on Marcus what is the best test or what can I try to fix this I have got a 1652 fluke multi Cheers lads

    @davidwaugh3103@davidwaugh31032 жыл бұрын
KZhead