Why The Crusades Were Awesome, Actually
The popular understanding of The Crusades in the West is that they involved barbaric, violent Christians invading the peaceful and enlightened Islamic world. Films like Kingdom of Heaven and Mankind: The Story of Us reinforce this narrative. But the truth is the reality of the Crusades is much, much different. In fact, it's the polar opposite. In this video on Pax Tube, I explain why The Crusades were not only morally justified, but were also a historic achievement. Buckle up for a crash course in over 1,000 years of European and Middle Eastern history!
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0:00 Intro
2:05 Origins of Christianity vs Islam
4:41 Christendom's Hand Is Forced
9:03 The Crusades Begin
13:15 Conclusion
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Citations:
'Holy Warriors: Islam and the Demise of Classical Civilization' by John J. O'Neill
'The Crusades: A Response to Islamic Aggression' by John J. O'Neill
gatesofvienna.net/2010/02/the...
'Why We Are Afraid, a 1400 Year Secret' by Dr. Bill Warner
• Why We Are Afraid, A 1...
Urban II's Crusade Speech
www1.cbn.com/spirituallife/ca...
Sadly this video will only be buried under the KZhead algorithm while anti-Christian rhetoric will continue to be promoted institutionally and commercially.
Crusader Armies came based on a cnturies old irrendentist mission, and then when they conquered they massacred everyone including Jewish, Muslim and even Christian civilians who were not Catholic. It’s not anti-Christian, it’s anti-atrocities.
@@Handle0108 i'll just hold myself and say generalizing is always stupid
@@Handle0108 no dunce do 5 minutes of unbiased research and you’ll find otherwise.
So is he not gonna talk about the Crusaders killing all innocent Jew, Muslim, women and children in their path? Which Muslims NEVER did!
@@GDL88 Muslims never have done that? Are you sure?
It's easy to condemn the "find out" when you ignore the "fuck around" that preceded it...
Shakespearean quote.
Certified banger
reminds me of 9/11
There is no fuck around or find out - in reality is just people wanting to control Jerusalem, because by controling that city they could control their own people. And that's what religion is for - proxy control. You give people a belief in the afterlife and at some father savior and then you impose laws and regulations on them that they won't break or they will lose their "place" in heaven.
There was no f-k around, this video is straight half propaganda half historical falsehoods.
I like how the christians are always condemned yet somehow the islam atrocities are consistently ignored...
True story!
Islamic aggression is not only against Christian. It is against all humanity
That’s just false
Same with Jewish atrocities, they were always blamed on the Italians or the Russians... For their most recent atrocities the Syrians and Afghans and Iraqis get the blame
Convenient to the narrative.
In the Philippines, we studied the Crusades as a positive thing in schools. I was surprised that we view this history very different from Western standpoint.
This idea as a bad thing is relatively new... say within a few years.
Do you know why the Philippines is named as it is ?
@moaadshahar it was named after the Spanish King Philip II
Even roman catholic was not good but it's good spanish managed to stop the expansion of islam in South East Asia. Indonesia for example was a Hindu majority and islam become official religion and was expanding to the Philippines but when spanish saw the muslims they thought they are the same or barbar muslim in North Africa which pushed by spanish after hundred years invasion of Christian country, Christians managed to fight back and expelled Islam. Actually I visited Malaga and all areas where emir in Malaysia settled in Malagasy like cordoba, sevilla, andalusia. Muslims invaded amd abused the people.
@@stargategoku there was no Islamic expansion in east Asia and never an army from the Islamic caliphate set foot in it but Islam spread by the Yemenies traders and the people actually liked it not like the Christian who sended armys and colonised it by "force"
I had to write a report on the crusades my sophomore year. I pretty much said what you’re saying here, and the teacher gave me a zero. She also threatened to fail me for the year because I defined Jihad as a holy war, even though I asked an actual practicing Muslim about the Islamic definition. This was 2014, I can only imagine how much history has been further bastardized since then
Jihad means struggle, could be used in a context of holy war. But the Def is struggle, lets not be foolish here.
@@Wartensteiin There are several different types of Jihad, and the "smaller jihad" which refers to holy war is MANDATORY for all Muslims who are able to do so as COMMANDED BY THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD. Stop doing dishonest Taqiyyah.
@@the_kimchi_kommandant2603 Where is that verse? Taqiyyah is not a concept Islam, it was invented by anti-Islam activists to silent Muslims. Engage in honest discussion instead of throwing terms that are the opposite of that,
@@Wartensteiin Bro??? Now you're denying a fundamental part of your own religion??? wtf
@@the_kimchi_kommandant2603 How is taqiyya part of the religion? Give me authentic hadith or quranic verses to substantiate your claims.
People always seem to FORGET that the crusades were a response to 800 years of Muslim aggression.
Alternatively: 'For 800 years, Christians saw Islam progress and they boiled in jealousy.'
so the the 7th century to the 12th century contains 800 years, thats some great math buddy.
@@PhurLok66 the first Crusade started in 1095. You may want to re-check your dates.
@@poopjeans1135 thats even worse bruh the math just maths less
@@poopjeans1135 You might want to check who's writing your history ; ) Just because a historian dubbed something as the "first crusade" does not make it the first crusade. A crusade is an invasion with religious fervor as its backing. Please educate yourself on our shared history; for that which was written was written with intention and bias. This video highlights and extremists point of view. Nothing more.
Not gonna lie, we might be needing a new crusade.
They are already trying to kill off innocent Palestinian children
its already happening
@@quackcake91651 where i need to join lol
@@quackcake91651how and where?
We're getting ready.
I must say, even though I’m atheist, that you made me look at crusades in much different light right now.
Jesus loves you bro
@@adrian_ad Repect his beliefs will you?
@@SiddharthPVM nothing I said was disrespectful
@@adrian_ad you are unwilling trying to push your religious beliefs on him. Do you see me saying Jesus is human made? No right?
@@SiddharthPVM ur opinion is valid
Calling the Crusades an unprovoked attack on Muslim territory is like calling D Day an unprovoked attack on German territory. I can understand saying that it was sad that it ever became necessary, but it's not shameful to fight for survival or to regain what was taken.
HUH
DEUS VULT
Yeah more like butchering entire cities and taking the women and childern and taking everything they have in the name of ur god
Have you watched Europa the last battle? Xd
Insane comparison. It would be more like justifying Denmark invading Scania today because it used to be danish until 1658. The islamic world had not just captured Jerusalem four years before the crusades, you are either stupid or dishonest
As an atheist who has a great appreciation for learning history I’ve also been baffled by how often the crusades are portrayed as some unique evil among historical wars. Completely just ignoring the defensive nature of them and how Islamic expansion both pre and post dated them all
It's utter necessary in history learning to look at the past with the eyes of the past, not the eyes of the present. You can't just segregate few events of history and decide what was right and what was wrong according to your conteporary society values. It's less than appropriate and narrows down your insight over the course of events and facts.
any man saying that the muslims are the rightful owners of the holy land is an complete clueless idiot. aswell to any other religion other then the jews. king david built the place.
@adi_lowenthal_platt Oh for sure, that is why I emphasized 'portrayed as some unique evil' as in it and most wars of similar nature or around that time are evil in our retrospective morality.
Atheists have a unique hatred against Christians. Especially in the West, where they are seen as political/ideological enemies, as well as relics of a "shameful" past.
@adi_lowenthal_platt every war in history untill ww1 had war crimes because it was normal and allowed. And i agree with that ideology because u cant win a war by just killing off an army and leaving the enemy population in the area, it Couse instability and doesn't change the place just the leadership.
13:08 Can we just appreciate a lil fact that Ottomans were kicked out of Europe with a massive scar on their asses after Winged Hussars kicked them out of Vienna in Largest Cavalry Charge in the whole history. Such beautiful way to end it all in last "crusade"
Ottomans were defeated by Russians not some Huissars.
The army that defeated the Turks at the gates of Vienna under Sobiesky was predominantly german. They did the heavy fighting in the trenches and acted as an anvil for the hammer that was the polish Hussar charge.
@@weisthor0815 yeah, german soldiers that were led by elite cavalry force, also they started retreating on sight of the charge
Go, Team Jesus!!!
@@kaz4184 Nonsense, the Hussars waited on the hill while the german and austrian infarnty did the dirty work in the trenches and on the battlefield, pinning down the turks for the cavalry charge from behind. No victory at Vienna without german and austrian infantry. A lot of people portray the battle of Vienna as a polish victory, which it clearly was not. It was a victory of combined forces from the Holy Roman Empire, Austria and the Poles.
This is probably one of the most awesome history documentaries I've seen in a while, and it's improved my understanding of the Crusades. The only strange thing I guess is the funny thumbnail for the video.
How did u get a better understanding of the crusades without any real details? Did u know the Christian crusaders also attacked non-Muslim and even Christian cities. I dont get why yall act like any of it was justified on either side. But I guess u come from a violent culture.
@@saeedboynes7129 islam is a violent culture lmaooooooooooooooooo
@@saeedboynes7129 Did you perhaps miss the part where the video gives real details, with citations? It gives details, real or not, that have cited sources. That's already better than the drivel I've seen spouted elsewhere in the comment section of this video.
As a Christian I’m a bit on the fence about the Crusades. On one end, the Crusaders committed several evil acts to regain the Holy Land. On the other end, the Muslims also committed several evil acts to get the Holy Land in the first place. I’ve always seen the Crusades as another event in history where there was no good guy. I also don’t see anywhere in scripture where it says violence is the solution to persecution. Killing your enemies is not what Jesus taught.
As a Christian I’m a bit on the fence about the Crusades. On one end, the Crusaders committed several evil acts to regain the Holy Land. On the other end, the Muslims also committed several evil acts to get the Holy Land in the first place. I’ve always seen the Crusades as another event in history where there was no good guy. I also don’t see anywhere in scripture where it says violence is the solution to persecution. Killing your enemies is not what Jesus taught.
As a french, I'm always surprised by the way the Crusades are viewed by the anglo-saxon public. I've never heard something as "The Crusade were aggression" or "a terrible crime". It was an adventure, driven by faith, and which gave rise to exchanges more than a simple fight between enemy religions. The Middle East being at the time one very diverse region, in its cultural and religious mix. Also, it should not be forgotten that, at the time of the Crusaders, the Middle East was a Christian land only a few centuries ago. Islam having only appeared in the 7th century and the first crusade taking place at the beginning of the 11th century
Ive learned one important thing from you french people: Between us europeans you are either the most cucked or the most based. Theres no in between.
The 4th crusade should not have happened however, the Roman’s were Christian
@@jeffbob3311 BIG mistakes were made. I suppose that back then they were corrupted by greed
Stylé ta photo de profil
@@SIGNOR-G Mistakes like the sacking and massacre of Jerusalem and Antioch during the First crusade, huh? That little mistake that was the sacking of Constantinople led to Ottomans' conquest, and also opened a beachhead that the Turks used to conquer the rest of Eastern Europe, they even reached Vienna in 1529! Crusaders were nut f*cks, most of them were nobility's sons who couldn't inherit and wanted to take a big chunk of land for themselves or crazy maniacs like Raynald of Chatillon, thanks to their greedy asses the Romans finally fell
As an Romanian I can say that our history books appreciate the crusades , especially the late ones that we participated in like Varna , because the Ottomans have been a constant threat to us until the 19th century
romani people are literally Turks that call them selves "gypsy"
Romania was the shield of Europe for centuries
Turkey still are. Romania is the most direct remnants of Byzantium. Turkey is one of the most provocative countries in the world. they are why the US got involved with Saddam Hussein. They didn't have to destablize iraqs water, but they chose to because they are the wrong type of muslim to each other. Hussein always promised that if Turkey built the dams, he would blow them up. Years later after Saddam is deposed, Turkey builds the dams and cause more havoc to all the downstream countries. From Syria to Iraq. Look how those have become hotbeds now that their water has destabilized. Turkey knew the play it was doing.
@@corpseoperaNow, sadly Ucraine is the shield of Europe.
As a Bulgarian I also appreciate the crusades given how much we and the rest of the Balkans suffered under Ottoman rule.
Reconquista gave us, the Iberians, our countries back and without it, thanks to our King Afonso Henriques. Portugal would had not become the country it is now. Neither would Spain in that matter. Sadly, the European governments are spitting on the graves of those who fought against these animals and are welcoming them with open arms.... We need a new Reconquista, European wide Reconquista
Amen brother. I am german and i know exactly what you mean. I can see it on the streets every day. Europe as we know it will cease to exist forever if we do not act or change our voting behaviour drastically.
They are vilifying the crusades because they don't want you to remember Rome conquered and owned Jerusalem. It belongs to the Europeans. The other religions don't want a western conciousness like this.
@@weisthor0815Voting is not going to help.
I always found it interesting that it was called reconquista when it really was a conquista. I’m all for having “requonquista” now in 2024 though ✝️
@@Deftknight The muslims conquered it from the christians first ... the reconquista was to conquer it back. So I think the name is justified as it is ?
The crusaders were the medieval NATO, but more willing to defend the western world's borders.
More willing? The Islamic Jihad was going on for HUNDREDS of years before the Christians decided to respond with the First Crusade...
Are you kidding me ? The crusaders enjoyed sacking Christian cities more than they did fight the Muslims. They enjoyed carving up the Levant for themselves and establishing principalities and dukedoms than they did maintaining Jerusalem It's the same as it's always been with wars prosecuted by wealthy, land-owning aristocrats; using ideology to make the peasants and serfs and the orders stupid enough to invest and make the trip go to crusade, just to carve land out for themselves. There was nothing Justified, or Christian, about the Crusades.
Don't compare defenders of faith with the terrorist organization that ravished countless lands and sent soldiers who were killed for the sake of American greed.
So true
@@OR56 Heroyim Slava 💪🏿🇺🇦🇦🇴
Can't even imagine what a crazy undertaking this was for the soldiers, after that notorious travel distance to fight an unknown enemy for months.
they did it for the Lord
@@1992zorro I'm an atheist, but it amazes me what strenght humans can gain if they just believe in something, hope can move mountains i guess.
the French/Frankish name for the Holy Land was 'Outre mer' - simply 'overseas', so unknown it was
@@spyderman4206what interests lol. The interest wad to help Byzantium face the Seljuks, but the crusaders when advancing to Anatolia and the levant felt like Emperor Alexios did not help them enough, so the counts took the lands for themselves
They were promised gold, to have their sins forgiven and to enter heaven (from the trusty, wholesome, Vatican). But they had fun murdering, looting and raping along the way. Proper gentlemen the crusaders. God bless 'em.
The issue I see many modern zoomers have is the notion that the Crusades were all failures other than the First Crusade. This misconception comes from the fact that the other Crusades were unable to retake the city of Jerusalem. But to be honest most modern historians over simplify the retaking of Jerusalem as the only true goal of the Crusades. Most Crusades actually didn’t even have this goal in mind. Looking beyond the recapture of Jerusalem the Crusades actually did yield some incredible results. The Northern Crusades and Reconquista were completely successful in the long term. The Third Crusade led to the capture of Cyprus, Tyre, and Jaffa. Richard Lionheart beat Saladin in all 3 of the major battles fought against one another, despite being outnumbered. This led to a Crusader military victory where Saladin was forced to be chill with Christians and was unable to expand further into the other Crusader states. Also the Sixth Crusade actually led to direct Christian control of Jerusalem once again. Really the Crusades have become a subject of historical misunderstanding and deliberate misleading by modern cut throat ideologues.
It's because Christianity is an easy punching bag that can't, and won't fight back. Can't expect much from intellectually bankrupted cowards.
The issue is the same as the issue has been back then, the enemies of Christ are attacking us, or who owns the holy land now? The people that killed Christ?
cough 4th crusade cough
@@ejoji4245 in the case of the original intent of the crusades to alleviate the eastern romans every crusade fails and yes the fourth crusade the most. Yet, in their own rights and intentions even the fourth crusade was a success..
"Most Crusades actually didn’t even have this goal in mind" yeah the real goal was to rape and pillage. everyone knows this.
Great job, Pax Tube! 👏 This so needed to be said.
I love the name of your channel by the way. It's so clever!!
"It took Christianity 300 years of being put to the sword by Islam, having 2/3 of the Christian world conquered - with millions butchered, and over a million more Europeans carted off across the Mediterranean into slavery before the first crusade was called."
True no wonder y many ignore this
you know christianity also spread enourmously
@@Spacebartreal they spread through largely peaceful means at that point, Egypt, Anatolia, North Africa, Iberia, Syria, Ethiopia, Armenia, modern Jerusalem and Palestine where converted through peaceful means. they where the spiritual guides the general populace liked and kings liked how effective their administration assistance could be. only the Balkans and germanic/skandinavian raiders where converted at sword point.
@@bmetalfish3928 What about the native americans , massacre of the aboriginals of australia and natives of newzealand. Christianity also spread through colonisation, look at south america. This video is extremely biased as it ignores the massacres christians have committed during that era and later on. Anyway Religion has died not only in europe but globally, the adoption of secularism has been completed worldwide and the masses have left their religious beliefs for a secular and more free lifestyle. You and i both know this is true and its time we all accept what society has become, irreligious and secular
@@bmetalfish392810 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.[12] -Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Don't know why the crusades are portrayed as something bad in other countries but in my country(btw, I'm from Armenia) the crusades are portrayed as fight for the sake of Christians and Christianity and at the same time, nothing bad was written about muslims. It is an unbelievable honor to be a Christian due to the fact, that my country first accepted Christianity as a state religion and due to what my nation and my ancestors had to go through to remain as a Christian country. Love to everyone and stay safe out there. Carry on the legacy of your ancestors ❤️
Because, dear friend and brother in Christ, your country hasn't succumbed to the enemy of tradition and Christianity that is liberal laicism. The same cannot be said about my home country Spain, even if there are some like us who hold out. Hopefully we can revert this decay and restore our great Faith again. † ❤
@@nestor1907 God bless you, your family, your nation, and your country ❤️
Western countries have a lot of socio-political snakes trying to rewrite history and shame parts of our past. It’s infuriating
That's cause the context of Armenia, Georgia, and even the Byzantine Empire is completely ignored in most western documentaries and movies on the events of the crusades, they kind of just put it as if catholics were simply bored of fighting each other and wanted to convert the whole world to christianity. I think in western culture and media, the crusades and colonialism are very much blended into one another, to create this appalling view of events, that Europeans have always been blood thirsty, racist group of people, that only seek to conquer. Which is very much not the case, since most of European history is actually about national stability.
@jackjones4824 I just want to understand your view on the umayyad caliphate and the Islamic crusades and their conquest and killings over thousands of innocent Cristians, Jews, and Zoroastrians? Also western Europe had just a much a claim to revenge as the Bzyantine Empire, the Islamic Crusades pushed well into Spain and Southern France, completing conquering the visigoths and the pieces of Frankish kingdom(both of which germanic tribes who had been converted to Christian). Also, let's not act like Islamic crusades needed to happen, or were somehow provoked, the Romes never pushed for control Arabian Dessert
Anyone who understands history will acknowledge why the Crusades were necessary.
Thanks for researching this topic. It is hard to be faithful in these times especially when christians from my own congregation tell me how shameful the crusades were.
When I was reading a book about the Crusades, I forget which book, but the telling of the 1st Crusade always made me giggle. "Things were going bad but then the Franks got really mad and the day was won."
Might happen again, given the way events are unfolding nowadays 😂
Another win for the Franks!!! Losing 1 war against the most advanced army of the time with some of the greatest soldiers of all time and being remembered for only that sucks. Franks have had many great battle victories. That story is funny. So remember, when they're pissed, fighting is not good!
NEVER I remind you; NEVER... anger the Frank's... Worst mistake of my life - some ottoman guy probably
franks can kiss myy arrsse@@littlehollow
@@maitres-chez-nous5609the crusader were also many germans and the Franks are also a germanic tribe this is not a french victory but a european.
The Austrian flag has its origins in the Third Crusade (1189-1192). The Babenberger Leopold V was an Austrian duke. It is said that after the siege and subsequent battle of Akkon, his white robe was completely soaked in blood, save for a white stripe where he wore his sword belt. In 1191, Heinrich VI gave Leopold the red-white-red coat of arms. After the Babenbergs died out, the Habsburgs inherited the coat of arms and it became the colors of the House of Austria. It's one of the oldest, still in use, flags.
The Austrians started ww1
@@Kazamatigoh1221who cares?
@@Kazamatigoh1221Serbia started WW1
@@MicahDAmato a quick search on google will tell you Austria was the ones who declared war. They were also on the German side aka the BAD side, aka the villains.
@@Kazamatigoh1221 good bait man you had me goin there for a second🤣
This video is incredible, great job man.
Going through public education I honestly never got the impression that my education was trying to frame the Crusades as a war more immoral than any other (religious or non-religious), unlike what it seems other people's experience was. I was given the context of the rise of Christianity, the fall of Rome, the rise of Islam, and by extension the Islamic holy wars (Jihad). My understanding was that almost all wars (especially ancient) were horrible and generally the invaders would commit acts of horrible acts of violence against the invaded civilians, it was made clear to me that no culture is above this (since it probably wouldn't survive), from the Mongol invasions to Jihad to the Crusades to even the modern day wars in Ukraine and Iraq.
They're trying to sell you on pluralism.
Congrats for being the one person who had a decent, moral history teacher.
Ya this is the norm, these christians play perpetual victims because western media focuses on western historical atrocities. The pearl clutching will never end.
Great YT comment. Excepting WW 2 (media hype, more than history professors) my teachers presented every war as pointless and ignorant. Middle school teacher, one HS teacher, and every college professor. All proud Americans and Christians, but they laid out the facts and vagaries.
Here in germany the crusades are not seen as a pointless aggression. The crusades were an answer to the spread of islam and that is how it is taught in school here. I was pretty surprised by the man in the intro saying the cursades where the most shameful undertaking of human history. A statement which i would consider to be ridiculous and false. The conquests of the mongols were much worse for example. People today also tend to forget that we speak of times so vastly different to our own that we can't even attempt to understand how it was for people back in the middle ages. Everyone was a fanatical believer.
And then...you open the floodgates to Islam. Smart.
I'm actually scared to open modern textbooks with how things have been going in western Europe as of late. History is being recontextualized and altered in no small part due to the demographics changing. Which is concerning, considering history should always be objective.
American media, especially school material portrays the crusades as disgusting wars
@@Volvith Sadly you are absolutely right. What's happeing is very concerning.
and why are they killing Jews not Muslim then? a tradition before Nazi?
As a Portuguese I got to say that only Anglo-Saxons could come up with a version of events where the christians were the aggressors.
I guess they were right then. The crusade was a political move by the Pope where he disregarded all points of christianity to fulfil his dreams of a bloody conquest.
They're
@@dindin8753 Nice to see there is some sense of intelligence down here.
Those people in the media are all FreeMaySons which has its roots in Kabb Alism and the lsIamic world. Some of their orders, like the Shhriners, pay homage to that origin.
Pretty much the India experience too!
Amazes me people can't understand the double standards, one man's pirate is another man's mercenary. Both sides caused suffering to all people's.
I truly appreciate videos like these. Most don’t understand the context of history ands what actually happened
Fun fact: A Norwegian King was the first European king to personally lead his forces into the Holy Land.
Which king?
@@BjornerokkKing Sigurd I
He was just a teenager. He was valiant and successful and made it home, but lost his mind tragically.
@@deepdungeon he was a great king but his death caused a 110 year long civil war in norway
no one in the world needs judastyanity
Thank you pax, as a Coptic Christian, I’m glad some one is talking input our history of persecution and all other Middle Eastern Christians. God bless
@@al-muwaffaq341 the Muslims were far worse. That’s like asking a Jewish person, would you rather live in Nazi Germany, or Rome? Of course I’m choosing Rome, even if they did suppress the Jews they weren’t nearly THAT bad in comparison!
You're funny bruh, coptic sect is the most prosecuted group before islam exist
@@nooneknowsidc literally before the Arabs conquered Egypt the Byzantines literally persecuted them and any other denomination of Christianity that wasn’t Orthodox. That’s why these people submitted and joined the Arabs.
haha, just remind me why did the Coptic betray the Byzantine multiple times..? is it because they were persecuted? The coptic and the semites were persecuted for racial and rhetoric beliefs wasn't it..? Do you remember what happened to the pagan coptics by the romans and the christian coptics..?
@@al-muwaffaq341 Catholics that killed orthodox/copts or force-converted them were excommunicated from the church later on
After watching that video, I just saw a lot of good points for the Crusades, I honestly think that they are pretty dope now. However, I think it might have been good to mention that the first Crusade did have a lot of pillaging as well on the Crusaders side, As well as the fact that the five main leaders of that Crusade weren’t really organized well and couldn’t always agree on what to do, I also wish That’s the person who made this video talked about Saladins Mercy to Christians. However, all these points Relatively justified for him to argue against I just wish she mentioned them so then other people wouldn’t just go in the comments and say “well Actually, salidin was a really dope man who spared Jerusalem and the Crusaders were going to go and kill everyone”
"Saladins Mercy to Christians." I guessing you are mentioning the incident of Saladin conquering Jerusalem. It was most likely political decision to pacify the newly conquered land so that you can maintain the area while your military expand to new area. Saladdin was not actually a peaceful invader instead he did many things that was cruel and bloodthirsty. He was not definitely merciful to Christians. But then again it was the norm of the medieval warfare just like 'pillaging' was also the normal part of medieval conquest.
The Crusades were a response to 3 centuries of Muslim conquest and aggression. The Crusades were also a remarkable military victory establishing kingdoms that lasted for well over a century.
As Assyrian Christian I just find the modern view of Christianity in general weird they suggested that the Christian faith has notions or attitudes that are openly hostile which they never do to any other faith especially those the modernist openly counter such as Islam
There’s countless attacks against the Muslim faith, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@Handle0108 Were being played against each other
@@Handle0108 the Christians are expected to accept and tolerate the social decay and lgbt stuff that they don’t put on muslims as they are instead exotise them at the moment
@@assyrianchristian764 that is the fault of Christians for being weak and not Muslims or the media. If you tolerate everything people will keep demanding and pushing more on you, and unfortunately nowadays Christians are not willing to stand up for their values. Muslims on the other hand stand by and defend every letter of their holy book and religion.
@@assyrianchristian764 as a muslim it is quite sad to see the state of affair of religion in the modern day. Alot of Christians cater to easily to athiesm and secularism as it slowly eats away at the very core beliefs of Christianity. Nowadays it's getting hard to even tell what exactly a Christian is when so much of the religion is being changed. Some Christians think saving the faith means joining Christian fundamentalists organizations and spreading hate to other religions and all this does is push Christianity into a political ideology. The reason why islam is so successful right now is due to how robust it is, the people are both tolerant yet Intolerant, A perfect blend. I feel as though for Christianity to truly be saved in this era they must return to the source. Practice Christianity the way the early Christians did at the time of Jesus, bring back the old methods of praying, bring back the headscarf, bring back The old ways to better battle this culture war. Other wise I don't see Christianity surviving against this future, liberal, secular, Lgbt future that will eventually reach every home.
Forget this all, I want a crusader armor set of my own.
Me too
I agree too. 😊
I think there’s a sport in north America that does just that. U get blunt weapons, real armors, and go crazy on a 1v1 or something up to 8v8. Childhood come to life.
I literally wanted to sign up even before the video but now I definitely wished I could have fought to protect the holy land
@@HadiAnimations it's a medieval MMA place yea?
Always glad to see this video again on the sidebar
Great video! Thanks for making~
The crusades should actually viewed as an amazing uniting conflict where many nations came together under a common cause to achieve something
...that failed
@@williamrobert9898 you didn’t watch the video huh
@@heyo1515 you think a random video will alter the reality that they failed huh?
@@williamrobert9898 🤣 LOL. Please let the butthurt Christians of this comment section live in a fantasy land where they think killing women and children and raping those who are left was a good thing. It’s funny to watch
@@heyo1515 They failed and crippled the Byzantines even more instead of helping them. (4th Crusade)
Thanks for the video. As an Arab Christian, of course, they never show this side of history and during school, the Crusaders were often described as barbaric, while the Muslims of course are merciful. I wish we could all learn pure history with no biases.
you know that the crusaders killed even the Christians amongst the muslims? no ?
(Ignore my arab name, I'm syrio-brazilian) Wait, do you mean in what country? Because with so much communist revisionism, I'm almost sure western education pictures crusaders much worse than muslim world education.
obviously.. im sure the brits know next to nothing about their own cruel colonial history.
The ayyubis were indeed more merciful by the standard of their time. Saladin was remembered in europe and earned limbo in dante poems. His descendants were also more inclined to be merciful to subsequent crusading knights. In history there are no black and white. The past is packed full of diverse characters each deserving more than the stereotypical images which we project onto them.
Funny how the Christians were so kind to the people of the Americas, the people of the North Caucasus when the Teutonic Knights went on gruesome crusades to eradicate paganism. What mercy was that? When did Muslims ever treat you Christian Arabs badly? On the contrary, those crusaders killed Orthodox Christians indiscriminately during the First Crusade. This is the kind of rule you wanted to live under?
just as many wars this one was also ultimately fueled by economic decline. i didn't get the impression that the christians were blood thirsty in the movie. my interpretation was bad people abuse their authority for success fueled by their aggressive ambition. at age 11 this was my interpretation, just more dumbed down, bad men do bad things because they can.
I was the same. Watch it again and notice how all civilians killed are muslim. Also how the muslim war generals are portrayed compared to their christian counterparts
Surprised to see this has 2.3 million views. Good work.
I'm not even Christian, and this video still spoke to me. Love this video!
Your LDS?
LDS are Christians though, just not Nicene Christians
@@pjthehomelessmage i know, but he had a beehive that resembled the Utah Flag one, so i was asking.
@@Hibblesonk My profile picture is the cropped flag of Utah because it's my favourite flag
@@pjthehomelessmage gnostic occultists are christians too i guess
One small addendum: Christianity had spread to east Africa early like 50ad, and the kingdoms east and south of Egypt adopted Christianity as their official region about 100 before it became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the 320’s. They’re some of the oldest churches are in that region. But it is slightly different branch than became Catholicism.
Alot of people believe that ethiopia may have predated armenia as the first christian country very cool
People also forget about the many Christians that existed on the eastern side of the middle east and into Asia. Maybe not majorities or countries defined by Christianity, but they were there.
नमस्कार, क्या आपके दांत साफ होना संभव है? आप किन तरीकों का इस्तेमाल करते हैं?
We should also mention that in Rome there was a strong opposition and, even though the faithful had to go underground for many years, Christianity was there. When Christianity was officialised by the local states is not really relevant. Both St. Paul and St. Peter went to Rome where they were both killed in 67ad. Peter had the authority given by Jesus to found His Church.
it's the Etiopian Church, who believes in the same principles as the Roman Catholic Church. The communion of the Saints and Mary, Images aren't idolatry but rather works of art to celebrate Christian Saints and God, etc. All these early christians have the same basically principles of the Roman Catholic Church because they are were founded by the Apostles of Christ, if I'm not mistaken it was Thomas who founded the Church of Etiopia.
can we all just agree that war is bad? lmao some of y'all never played fallout
War is inherently and naturally bad. But some wars need to be fought for one's freedom.
The recently converted vikings went on a crusade in 1100. king sigurd the first was the first king to personally join a crusade and not a single battle was lost during his travels
Just say norse please 😭
"Recently" lol by the 1000's a lot of them were already Christian even in Scandinavia. Even more-so in Normandy earlier where it barely took a generation.
My ancestors moved to Normandy, France from Denmark. At that point they ceased to be Vikings Normans (Normanni, Latin) settled in the upper north of France and the area became known as Normandy. Their king, Rollo became a vassal to the French king. They became fiercely Catholic and the popes employed them against infidels. Charles Martel fought with the Muslims and forced them out of France in a battle at Toulouse. They also went to Sicily and basically chased the Greek Orthodox Church out.
why is that a surprise? scandinavia was converted by the sword, the ones that weren't executed or took up the sword against their kin would naturally be drawn to this. the crusades within europe were however more barbaric than the ones in the levant
@bennyklabarpan7002 it was actually kings that convinced their people to convert. i mean, hell, sweyn folk beard converted, and he still acted like a pagan while the rest of his subjects were christian as missionaries came from Germany and started slowly converting to Christianity until they were all Christian so sweyn folk beard decided to convert as his people didn't like his pagan beliefs
It blows my mind how modern narratives are basically that the bad guys are good and the good guys are bad, and nobody knows enough about the history to question it
History is a work of construction, not discovery. It's important to remember that history is only 20% chronological events and 80% narrative interpretation; Jules Michelet's account of the French Revolution rivaled Victor Hugo for its romantic rhetoric, and Alexis de Tocqueville's rendering of that same event was a tragedy worthy of Racine. During this time period, only the wealthy and upper social classes were taught the privilege of literacy; so history carries their perspective.
It's safe to say, if you're a Christian fighting to keep land away from the government and migrants, protecting your communities and families and keeping them homogenous, you're on the right side of history.
I loved crusaders when I was little but then as I got a bit older, I found out that they sacked Constantinople in 1204, that one sack decimated the Eastern Roman Empire and ultimately weakened them enough that they fell in 1453. Eastern Roman was one of my favourites. Christians attacking Christians, killed and looted their own brothers.
that some racist sht right there @@lanthanumlanthanium6373
Everyone who knows enough history knows, that there are no totally "good" or "bad" guys
Some kings were good, other kings were trash, some spared everyone, others killed everyone, thats what happened and still happens today, but now, no one cares...
While I agree that the crusades were a response to Islamic advance and violence, and that Kingdom of Heaven didn’t paint Christian’s in the greatest light, I think Scott did a decent job portraying Baldwin and Saladin and their relationship as well, both being great leaders and deeply religious men. As an atheist I’m not sure why he would given Islam more respect than Christianity
'One day for no reason at all' seems to be their go-to for why the good guys did what they did
"Good guys", grow the fck up
underrated
The Crusaders weren't the "good guys".
@@markgreen6018 there are no good nor bad guys in history
@@alessandrozanzarella9203that is not true at all
They need to make a historically accurate movie
The Hollywood overlords wouldn't allow it. Luckily we're seeing a rise in independent film studios, so maybe?
The truth hurts, especially for the christians. You can learn the truth by studying the history of free mason and how king richard made use of his people under the name of christianity, when its actually his own deep interest in black magic. Thats why, templars are closely related to magic until today.
It wouldn't be this one. The movie the uploader of this video gushes over is full of historical inaccuracies about Baldwin IV of Jerusalem. He was a 15-year-old teenage king who watched his men fight for him. He became unable to ride a horse at age 16 due to having lost sensation in his arms and legs, soon losing his fingers and toes, then completely disabled until he died at the age of 24. Not what this video represented, huh?
@@Thor.Jorgensenhe doesn’t really mention him but an actual historical movie with that fella would be nice
crusades or not, jesus was a devil pretending to be god and nothing else. reading the bible is enough for me to see it
Who could imagine that history was complex ???
its not its just the guy in the video is trying to make the crusades look good(they were not)
@@yousseftrab3615 people like you are proof that you cant fix stupid
@@yousseftrab3615and you know ALL about it, I’m assuming?
@@loganwebb1171 no i dont know all history nobody does except allah
@@yousseftrab3615 slay, bro
There is a reason it is called a movie and not a documentary.
True
Christianity grew, when it was being persecuted… whereas Islam grew, when they were the persecutors.
You'll never guess what the europeans did when they arrived at the americas and sub-saharan africa.
he's talking about Christianity and Islam... pot kettle black much?@@ruzgar1372
@@ruzgar1372they built infrastructure
@@ruzgar1372Aye, they built missions, universities, etc. Oh, and they single-handedly brought an end to the millions of demonic, serpent-worshipping, human sacrificing Aztecs.
@@hurinthalion2571and millions died or were enslaved because they were not followers of the faith. Even then, there's no real reason why anyone would think building things leads to better lives. Better for some, sure, but if homelessness and diseases brought by civilisation are anything to go by, infrastructure is deadlier than whatever had been before by a huge margin.
I am Armenian, and due to church records I know that I am related to Levon I the Magnificent , who was the ruler of Armenian Cilicia, one of the main Allies of Western Europe during the crusades. I have lots of stories passed down that I could share too. Overall pretty neat stuff and it’s sad almost 0 Armenians live in Cilicia these days. I also speak western / Cilician Armenian , the Constantinople dialect to be exact, which is unfortunately almost extinct. I’m really glad you mentioned Armenian Cilicia in this video. 💪💪
You should start your own KZhead channels
Make sure you write it down. The most important words. The ancient words. And the terms. It is important. I did the same for some archaic North Norwegian words. And it turns out, I find them in Norse dialects all over Scandinavia now. Language is our history, so remember it! Much love from Norway!
Pretty cool.
Armenia's story is one of the most tragic, yet inspiring in history. The fact your nation still remains is a testament to God's grace.
I hope your people manage to preserve your history and culture long into the future, God be with ye.
This video does an amazing job in giving a clear image of the circumstances around the crusades, and justifies them very well, but I also think it proves the point that state and religion should be kept separate, not because of any one particular religion, but because of all of them. And that doesn't mean atheist either, but it just shouldn't be a factor in politics. Its best off when a government caters to all religious needs equally when possible, indiscriminate of how popular or appeasing a religion is to any individual or group. Otherwise we're not going to stop fighting about it period. It wont solve 90% of our problems but its a factor that causes so much unnecessary pain. In fact most of the religious texts I've read agree that judging another human is not up to the individual, and we should respect each others personal decisions instead of being arrogant and aggressive
Puzzling to me is the people that attack the crusades but are oddly silent on the forced expansion of Islam.
I'm not from Europe, yet the crusades were never seen in a "bad light", they were seen and teached as the Christian response to the Islamic agressions, but even with that, it is great to see a video that talks about it in depth.
(I'm not from Arabia, but the terrorist bombing attacks were never seen in a "bad light", they were seen and teached as the Muslim response to Christian aggression) imagine if a Muslim said that, you hippocrates would went crazy
Where you from, man?
@@Jebusmike3 Colombia, like, the South American country, not to be confused with the many Columbias that exist.
@@lore9828 Right on, I'm actually very glad the crusades are being taught rightly down there. Love from North America 🙏
@@lore9828 Here in México there's a lot of propaganda against the crusades, against the catholic church in general.
From what I experienced, most Americans and Canadians think the crusades were terrible and have no idea what has happened prior to the crusades.
Modern education is a cesspool
You mean like the romans invading the Middle East? And North Africa or the Greeks before them or the Persians before them?
Most other Americans could not point out where the holy land is on a map so their foolish opinions dont matter in the slightest
@@charsikhan9753 none of those were holy wars, nor were they the cause of brutal islamic conquest.
@@connr8691 Not every Islamic conquest was a holy war either. Gullible commoners like you were stoked into a frenzy against “foreign” peoples throughout the ages. Rome did it, the Greeks did it, the British empire did it, the United does it. And what does it matter what the cause of conquest was? Whether political, economic, or religious in nature, conquest is conquest. Islamic conquests we’re generally benign to the natives, in comparison to western conquests in the east. As for the “cause” of the initial conquests. You may want to fine tune your history knowledge. Both the Byzantine empire (what was left of rome) and the Persians had Arab lands and Arab vassals under their thumb. What you call the initials”Islamic” conquests are in fact Arab reconquests of their own territory.
my dude, why didn't you talk about the 4th crusade. TALK ABOUT THE 4TH CRUSADE! Please go in depth about how awesome the 4th crusade was
As a Muslim, I acknowledge that Muslims have committed atrocities and we are now in the twenty-first century and we must not allow hatred and malice to control us. As a Muslim I love and respect Christianity and must strive for love and peace.
True that. We've always fought so much. It's time we live together in peace. Much respect ✝️❤☪️
I'm pretty sure that most people (at least the sane ones) recognize that the majority of muslims fall into the same category as you. Sadly, the majority does not matter. 15- 25% of muslims world-wide seem to find it perfectly acceptable (or even willing to do it themselves) to commit acts like school-bus bombings, stoning or murdering non-believers just to name a few. And even if the majority completely condems such acts....with about 1.2 billion total muslims worldwide that still leaves a LOT of very un-peaceful ones. Watch "Benghazi Accountability Coalition Event" Brigitte Gabriel speaking if you want reference.
Peace in this life means nothing if it is followed by suffering in the next. I respect your right to believe what you will, but I pray that you accept Jesus Christ.
@@christopherbravo1813 We believe in Jesus, Mary, John the Baptist and Elias, but personally I find Christianity a beautiful religion
@@user-pt1xb2wt5t I'm glad to hear it! That being said, if you haven't read the Bible before I recommend giving it a read. Heck, even if you *have,* I encourage you to read it again. I'm currently doing so and finding a whole lot of details I missed before.
I'm no expert in history, Islam, Christianity, or much of anything. BUT I do know that my school system taught us about the Crusades, but never even so much as mentioned the Islamic Conquests. I think there is something seriously wrong with that. If we are gonna talk history, let's talk all of it, not just selective portions.
It what made me hate World History overall because they kept skipping important events. This is why I love the fact I went to seek my own understanding of history and told myself why didn’t they tell me about this in school?
If You are from the West, You’ll be educated in Western history that’s deemed relevant to You. There is a reason the Crusades have been part of Western educational curriculum for centuries. Don’t forget, the majority of the Western World were still practicing Christians up into the 20th century and the narrative most of Us were taught about the Crusades, was only that of pilgrimage and liberation. Only, that’s not entirely true. Funnily enough, the Muslim conquests into Europe aren’t interpreted w/in the Islamic World as being necessarily positive, particularly after the first Crusade. Comparing how Our cultures interpret these events is both surprising and interesting. However, if You’re truly interested in learning about this part of history, watching Videos like the one We’re commenting on, is definitely not the place to start. I’d recommend learning about the religions and their denominations to begin with, that’ll give You a better understanding of things. ‘Usefulcharts’ & ‘Let’s talk Religion’ channels are good, credible and tangible sources of information on this topic.
The Crusades are basically the geo-political equivalent of "Mom, Timmy hit me back".
Looking up human evolution & migration of Europe and archaeology and then the mythology of each civilisation. Huge ass pieces of history have never been taught in schools.
All of it? Extremely impractical.
Imagine enduring centuries of Jihad and then people going "yeah the crusades? especially evil time in human history... imagine fighting people over religion." I can almost imagine the faces of the crusaders both confused and angry in equal measure at the sheer ignorance of modern europeans on this matter
Imagine justifying being deranged scum with the existence of other deranged scum.
Christian's. Know most crusades were declared against other Christian's, right? The video cherry picks the first few, but whether you're talking about Cathars in southern France or pagans in the Baltic, most crusades were either declared against groups not a threat to Christian lands or against fellow Christians.
@@danielporisch2676you mean the same cathars who where making ritual suicide?
Well crusades are waste literally also I know Christianty and Islam I mean Muslim ended after ottoman defeated byantizine the capital Constantine which ended it also why don't the guy mention the peace between sallhuddin and Baldwin also he hates Islam ofcourse he made this to justify crusades Templars killed all Muslims in Jerusalem I wish you respect brother I don't meant hate just explain he hates islam for jihad and terrorist
@@thefool1086 literally no written records exist of the Cathars themselves so, just like rumors of witchcraft in Salem, we should take any authirs possible motivation into account for context. What we do know is that Langedouc had enjoyed more autonomy from the French crown before the Albegensian crusade and afterward was forced militarily to submit to the French crown, a major victory for the expansion of the French crown. A coincidence, then, that an Gnostic religion first recorded in Eastern Europe would have such a wellspring in southern France as to require a crusade....
Very good explanation, you just earned a sub.
How is this a good explanation? Does he explain why it was good and just that the crusaders ravaged Christian cities that had nothing to do with Islam?
Nice video , is there some recommended reading you have for this ? Thank you
To add further context, Mohammed himself had planned to attack Byzantium, but died in 632 before he was able to get there. The first siege of Constantinople began 42 years later in 674. By the time of the first Crusade in 1095, Muslim armies had been attacking the West for over 400 years before the European powers decided to counter attack. I think almost half a millennium of aggression is more than enough justification to take the fight to the enemy. The Europeans were definitely not the aggressors in this situation.
The crusade of Levant was actually a waste of time had they retaking Anatolia for the Byzantine or Egypt I think the crusade would last for long the levant is open bored hell hole the saljik . Ayoubid kurds abbasid fatimed it just hell
The Muslim-Byzantine relations became worse after the Ghassanids had killed the Prophet’s (PBUH) ambassadors which led to the first skirmish between the Muslims and the Byzantines in Mu’tah, 629 CE
@@grimmy7481 wait u sure isn't persia did this ?
I have been saying this for literally my whole life. By taking the 'Holy Land' back from the Muslims most Islamic military effort was focused on regaining it rather than attacking Christendom around the Mediterranean or through the Balkans. The almost 200 years gained (1099-1291) was crucial in enabling Europe to survive.
@@tvbopc5416survive what? muslim spain was around for centuries. how many wars did they have with the rest of europe? founders of oxford studied there for crying out loud, stop painting an apocalypitic threat as if there was total war and christians were killed on sight
I remember my history teacher in high school very much pushed this idea about the crusades. he even lamented the fact that charles martel stopped the muslims from entering europe because that would have stopped europe from entering the dark ages. And then taking history in university I've pretty much learned the complete opposite when it comes to medieval history
Muslims attacked the west, then played the victim once the west responded. Some things never change.
Then your teacher is crazy
Western civilization would have never gotten this far then
@@kyrptonite1825 we'd be 600 years behind
Charles Martel didn't do it against Islam btw, Islam was not even fully established, it was rapidely expanding and it was seen as another christian heresy. Muslims were doing razzias (raids) on Aquitaine region, and Martel stopped them in a battle that didn't seem so important for the muslims. Then he proceeded to raid Aquitaine too and sack many cities
I'm agnostic but agree totally with this video. Sadly, it's not and will never be mainstream.
Phenomenal!! Always an important reminder that most things deemed as “evil” throughout history are usually taken way out of context.
What was the context for the crusaders destroying Christian cities?
Ive often wondered how things wouldve been different during the third crusade if barbarossa hadnt died and the french hadnt abandoned richard the lionheart. Its amazing he had any success on his own against saladin
The Lionheart truly earned his name and was a true Champion of The Faith.
You're thinking of the third crusade, not the second.
@@anonnymousperson oops thanks i got my crusades mixed up lol
I only recognize these names thanks to Age of Empires 2 xD
The Lionheart NEVER lost a battle to Saldin...
Thank you for outlining this. I knew the Crusades were preceded by Islamic wars far latger, longer, and more atrocious, but this goes a long way to put it all together. God bless you.
@dukedase7 You're welcome to put forth your own evidence, but I've seen this kind of take verified by a prominent ex-Muslim who had everything to lose by doing so.
@@omnitrix1279 cope harder, you lost the crusades and we have the key to your holy sepulchre.
@mustafahussein1858 Enjoy it. Christ's not using it anymore. ;)
@@dukedase7 Islam mandates lying though, so it's not like anyone is likely to believe the other side of the story.
@@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 It's clear what your biases are, I hope you know that. And the sources don't even have to come from Muslims.
I have been misled my whole life about the crusades. Thank you for this video.
Imagine thinking crusades were unjust.
I cannot put into words how grateful I am, in this age where the hatred for Christianity is high and deadly you have have been given me a glimpse hope and a breeze of fresh air! Thank you!
muslims failed in battle to conquer europe ..but they did it with refugee NGOs...time to rise again
the hatred for christianity is high because the people around christians are starting to mirror them.
I wonder if he would ever discuss the hatred against atheists. He low-key already blamed the movie on atheists, following the "atheist atrocities" trope. Furthermore, one atrocity does not justify another atrocity. This is the strategy that is being used to recruit neo-nazis. Claiming that Germany was wronged and, thus, their following actions were justified. Consider this: They were both wrong and horrible to each other, led on by religious rivalry.
@@Thor.Jorgensenyou forget that Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, and other communist leaders were all atheists as atheism was integral to communism.
@Thor Jørgensen exactly brother amen. Both were assholes but it's cool rich history so we should all just take it in and learn . Not squabble and argue as if we were actually there.
As a Greek and a historian, I can safely say that this interpretation of the Crusades is not so present here in my country - Somewhat encounterable on the societal level, but certainly not on the academic level whatsoever. Our cultural heritage aligns with the Byzantine/Eastern-Roman Empire, which at the outbreak of the Crusades had been slowly losing territory first to the Fatimid and later Seljuk Empires for well over a century at least. As mentioned, the reason the Crusades even took place is because Emperor Alexios called upon Christendom in the West for help in a losing war when the Seljuks were nearly at the gates of Constantinople. In their own way, the Crusades were simply another phase of the Byzantine-Seljuk Wars. Our own cultural point-of-view is one that disproves the more modern western interpretation of the Crusades.
I'm not aware of any other culture so full of self-loathing as modern western countries. It's bizarre.
I am a bit taken aback by this video, because it makes this interpretation of the Crusades as mainstream, but even in the West (US) this is not a very academically-rigorous interpretation.
there were many crusades
@Byzantine Historian From what I see, here in Greece people see the crusades as a very positive thing, those who know a little more dislike the 4th crusade for obvious reasons But generally speaking we Greeks think the crusades were cool
Europe would be Islamic if not for the crusades, I'm an atheist but I can appreciate wanting to hold on to culture and way of life.They did what they thought they should, and was the only time in history Europeans stopped fighting each other for a time and made relations between Christian nations much less hostile.
Dwell on the past and blame someone else. That's the path to happiness.
I watched that movie today. I'm not Christian, but I felt anger when they surrendered to Saladin. Our country was under Islamic rule for 500 years before we deterred them back. Wherever men have stood up against Islamic barbarism, I am with them.
I read a history book on the crusades, and it covered every crusade in very deep detail. Ever since then, I have been waiting for something like this to finally enter public view. Edit: I finally found the name of the book. “God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades”
What’s the book called?
@@ctl9139 I found it, “God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades”
@@howdydobuckeroo1204 thank you!
Nice thank you brother I'll have to read this.
I want something more.A new crusade to drive the mongrels even further Islam is disgusting they only bring pain and suffering upon this world the Greek empire brought civilization and wealth whereas the Islamic people only know how to destroy.
It always amuses me when one-time tyrants and conquerors cry and whinge when the tables turn.
Facts
what do you mean by that
Just like Xerses.
💯💯💯 The fallen tyrants are the biggest "victimes." They are crying loudest when it's pay- back time.
@camaradacamarada1620 What Christian countries are claiming to be victims exactly? Couldn't help but notice you didn't include any specific information in your comment hahahaha 🐁
the thing about the crusades was they also messed with the eastern roman empire and sacked those cities too, which means they were running around like headless chickens set free from their cages
I am finn and our forefathers ancient finns were not involved in these crusades becouse in that time we still used to be pagans and not part of Roman Empire. Russia brought us orthodoxy first but christianity never was widely spread in those times.
As a Muslim myself, the context in this video does show why the crusades really occurred. It is understandable if Muslims put themselves in the shoes of the Christians living at that time. Both Christians and Muslim warriors over the centuries have committed atrocities unfortunately, but it is always nice looking at the positives of generally negative events in history. I also appreciated the efforts of Emperor Frederick II showing true diplomacy in the sixth crusade. Great job Pax Tube, subscribed! Greetings from Dubai 🇦🇪
Most Muslims see the Crusade as a war of Christian aggression against Islam but they forgot that Islam was spread by the conquest of Christian land (and the Sassanid Persia). Perhaps it's this one-sided view of history that causes Muslims youth more susceptible to extremism as they see what happens in the modern world (war, civil conflict and poverty in Muslim countries) as a continuation of the Crusade by the "West".
It is nice to see that we as humans can still respect each other despite religious differences.
As a Muslim I say your either ignorant or submissive.
Dude both were on the wrong, the only ones who trully suffered were the true religious. There wasnt a positive at all, only petty leaders in search of conquest manipulating the people and leading us astray from Allah
Good work on being informed of both perspectives. I've never met humans who are wholly bad or wholly good. We're all fallible, contradictory and complex at various points.
I loved crusaders when I was little but then as I got a bit older, I found out that they sacked Constantinople in 1204, that one sack decimated the Eastern Roman Empire and ultimately weakened them enough that they fell in 1453. Eastern Roman was one of my favourites. Christians attacking Christians, killed and looted their own brothers.
religion is not inherently bad, but it can be used for evil purposes by evil people, The same goes for its good side, a knife can be used just as much for consuming food as it can be to stab somebody. Someone once said (I think it was Nietzsche): "God is dead", yes he was right, we let capitalism and secularisation and satanic worshippers let god die, because god resides within every human's heart and soul. And just look at what the world has become today ( a chessboard ) and compare it to back then, no matter the technology and barbaric practices, can't really call our world any better today :>.
Thank you someone reasonable being a christian like myself and liking the crusades are two very different things the Byzantine called for help the pope scammed a bunch of poor people promising they could go to heaven very fucked. They massacred people from Europe more then the damn turks the modern pope is pretty good but back then the papacy was an oppressive system used for powergrabs.
I came to this video to say the same. Such a huge loss of history with how badly the city was pillaged and looted.
evidence of human greed throughout history regardless of religion
@@iBacon the best way to put it
As an atheist, I've always understood that the crusades did not happen in a vacuum. as always, cause and effect are what matter. One side invaded, the other invaded back to retaliate. This needs to be better understood. In history there are rarely any heroes or a side that you can point to and say, yeah those guys are the good guys.
Funny the narrator mentions Ridley Scott’s take on the matter in that film..because Scott did the same exact thing in his Robin Hood movie just five years later when the king asks Robin Hood about what he thought of the crusades lol
Im glad to see this getting talked about. I remember going through history classes in school and learning about these events and being alone among my peers and teachers about how the crusades were to fight back against the muslim forces and that the jihads were, at least, no better than the crusaudes and provoked the christian lands though war not just ideologies.
That's because you're wrong.
@@ljss6805 Nah, you just don't know history. Muslims had been launching unprovoked attacks against Europe for decades prior to the Crusades. The Crusades were just a retaliatory strike in an attempt to end the threat of the warmongering desert people for good.
@@ljss6805 He is completely accurate. Islam only spread through the levant, north africa, southern and eastern europe through conquest by arms. Guess what people dont like when you invade and take their shit or force convert their neighbors. The christian response to muslim aggression was entirely justified.
@@musimations5212 Wrong, but thanks for playing. See my other response. Educate yourself first. Tired of this harmful ignorance.
@@ljss6805 My guy said the equivalent of "nuh uh" and then thought he instantly won. Wow.
my cultural teacher was demonising Christianity and I am a believer in Christ I was not able to defend my faith but now that I have the information thank you good sir for helping me find a way to open the eyes of my classmates
There is no such thing as a just war and if you think Jesus would accept any war then you are insane
"demonizing Christianity" lol get real. christians have done terrible things in the name of Jesus. many would argue they brought it upon themselves with their own actions.
@@dlemon9016I think the Bible says if you are being forced to go against what the Bible says, then you can break that law. This might be an extension of that. In addition, the conquering of Jerusalem was a just war, as were the other wars David waged in the Old Testament
You're obviously not a very good christian if you couldn't even defend your faith from some woke professor
@@dudebro91-fn7rz I mean, if they’re a professor I’m sure theyve had a long time to gather evidence and examples against you, and that could be hard to combat at the beginning. Eg. the genocide in the Old Testament(which was acceptable because the people were offspring of demons so they weren’t actual humans, but you wouldn’t know that without context)
I’m a proud Christian. But please say Christian not only catholic. I’m Lutheran and honestly I feel more connected with you catholics than other Protestants. I often thought of becoming catholic but I love my community. I can’t just give up on them. So please don’t be one of those haters. Love you brother
God bless you
Knowing how much hate you would get for this video and going through with it anyways is truly inspiring. In a world where Christian bashing is not only accepted but promoted your video is a blessing. Thank you for this and all of your other videos.
and of course if you say this on social media you'll be attacked and they'll claim christians are the evil and privileged ones... I wish people could at least be honest about simply hating us, instead of pretending we hate them
Just look at the pro Hamas, anti Jew, anti Western Civilization mass marches all across Europe and America. The Muslims are at it again
Anti-White.
Muslims arent the ones who control media bruh. Muslims mostly admire christian westerners
The video is bullshit, and this kid is a wannabe Chad (who likes anime and loli girls? Not catholic, just a disappointment)
One group you failed to mention who were instrumental in the Crusades were the "Italians" and Sicilians (I put quotes because Italy did not exist at the time). Venice, the Papal states around Rome and of course the Sicilians (recently under the Normans) were the transporters and fighters since they knew the Mediterranean region and how to navigate supplies by boat (i.e. through Messina).
Another group who was instrumental in the liberation of Jerusalem from the muslim invaders was the Maronites . No one mentions them
Yeah but the Venetians also destroyed Byzantium in the fourth crusade
Not to mention any blow to Islam meant less raids on their lines lands and lines of commerce.
I mean there was the title of king of Italy but I get your point.
@thequacken6301 they fucking destroyed the greatest Christian city in the entire world and 100% opened the doors to Ottoman expansion later on. They almost ended Christianity by doing that. It's very plausible Vienna is taken and Islam keeps marching.
Christian: He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword, I will not fight. Islam taking over Christianity: Christian: The Shepherd must fight the wolves and tend to his flock. BASED.
Yeah the christians definitely never killed each other en masse.
This was amazing. Just stumbled onto it. I learned more about the crusades in this video then my entire 42 years previous. I thought I knew quite a bit, sadly I was never taught the reality and its a little upsetting but at the same time learning something new is always awesome.. The Lord decided today was the day for me to learn it so here I am. Thanks! Have a blessed day.
Did he tell you about the 4th Crusade? You should totally learn about the 4th crusade. It is totally awesome and amazing!!!!
I consider myself reasonably well versed in history, but this view of the Crusades was completely new to me. Thanks _very_ much for putting this video together. I'll be checking out more of your work... 👍
That’s a real shame. Unfortunately the idea of ‘crusades bad’ is a pretty modern one iirc.
God bless Texas
Funnily enough, nothing that was said here is particularly controversial among the academics. It's just that they choose not to say some of it, and focus on the "correct" part of the truth. Well, they know who pays their bills, that's for sure.
@@Quincy_Morris what a bad modern idea, that we shouldn’t murder children and women over a belief system. Who have nothing to do with ur life and have done nothing to u. Ur genuinely a psychopath if u trying to justify mass violence in the name of a “peaceful god”
History has been rewritten by people who hate Christians.
You'd think the religious conflicts like the Spanish civil war, Russian revolution and subsequent civil war, Chinese civil war, Cambodian genocide, and even recent conflicts in Africa where leftists/Muslims all come of looking worse would rank higher And also, the Mexican revolution was much, much worse
Islam spread the government authority not religion necessarily. There is no force conversation. Up until Ottoman 16th century Christians are still majority population in Egypt and Levant for example. Bro, there is absolutely no reason for the Crusades not to mention Muslims have laws of war and especially in early days and more especially before the turks as the turks where learning Islam yet as u read about first Caliphate and first and only true Caliphs rules and laws and speeches about war, they didn't do the things Byzantium or normal armies at the time do. Also they don't force convert people infact they didn't want the people to quickly switch and funded their religious institutions to keep them religious and close to Abrahamic religions as well so they can keep paying taxes as Muslims are untaxable in Islam my a Muslim government (Only non-muslim pay 10% tax on income, and rich Muslims pay 2.5% special tax on wealth that goes only to special box which used for only in 99% of the time on social warfare and development to Muslims whom unfortunate and in need as first priority and non-muslims if there is still a reminder especially the special need ones. Force conversation is prohibited in Islam and who does it is to be executed. We don't want hectics. Islam gives alot of power to the individual so a hectic can do alot of damage if wanted to. Not to mention the fight was against Byzantium only. Western Europe has nothing to do with it. Because Byzantium is a threat that never agreed to peace. Even the ottomans didn't want to go feather than they already did into Europe Byzantium areas after Constantinople threat was dealt with and sended the important religious stuff to the Pope of Cathlsoim and asked for peace the Pope replied with another Crusade and Holly League. Up until 17th century Egypt and Levant where still Christian majority population. The Muslims spread their government authority first not religion. Islam give non-muslims full autonomy and their own laws and courts as miny representative government in each region with their own areas and some where Christian lead cities. But people overtime in centuries naturally by their own free will choose to converted/revet to Islam. Islam protects belief and religion more than atheists and liberalism and philosophy does. Freedom of religion is just a mask to strip religion in name if freedom. Jews had 2 golden ages in Muslim world alongside tge Muslim one and migrateed to the Muslim world from Europe under European church organization and kings and lords threats ,as well public misbehavior and undermine of their rights and respect. We have and had human rights/responsibilities and ,animal rights and human responsibility to them: before the west did in many centuries. Even slavery prohibited amongst Muslims. A Muslim cannot make another Muslim a servant. By the way their laws on serventship and serventship is not like slavery. Slavery by English understanding is prohibited in Islam. Servant have rights protected by the state and it is contract. If those rights crossed the gov punishes. Servants and masters must eat on same table and wear on same level of cloths as well being respected. Iberia was an exception ,as well has a background. Then the skirmish attack on France was an example of it is own. Once abone time. It was a political move stemped from an imperial pov. As Abasised rising as well political termoal Ummayads loosing control they thought this will hlep because it is an eassy target and it was until it wasn't. Ok, first one maby ok - but what about the third? Forget that. What about the fourth and ones after. What about the culture it created? What about non-holy land Crusades? Why did they force convert and genocided some trabes and other crimes in Germany? What about the killing of Unitarian/Arianis Christians? The crusaders in first crusade killed even Christians and what about 4th crusade body? Does Hod allow genocide in Jerusalem in Christianity? Did the Muslims do that before the Christians and did the church organization condom that. The one commonder that did a similar thing was havely condomed and criticized by the historians of the time and other commanders in Muslim world. What about the racism and lieing Popes did to their population, about Islam Muslims and Mohammad propaganda? Saying somtimes they are atheists, and sometimes pagines and sometimes worship Mohammad or somtimes Saying they worship the moon or moon God ect.... The Pope and organization knows what they doing. How is Jesus is blond with blue eyes? The entire thing is a big fat lie. About the war first Caliphate had with Byzantium and Persia: that was nesseery and justified politically and economically as both sides showed no respect and enmity early own before Muslims do anything. Their was few disagreements and fighting skirmishs before. It was mainly because the Persian power havely disrespected the prophet and arabs also did injustices to arabs in their rule plus they supported the rebellion against Caliphate government in Arabia with their resources. Then geographically then had to at some point to attack Byzantium too to win, or they lose. Not to mention most of the locals fought with the Arab Muslims against their overloads including Christians against Byzantium. Also in Crusade many local Christians suded with Muslims against Europeans. Not to mention catholics are not in good term with Orthodox Christians. That map is the map on Rome. Iraq/Mesopotamia had very little Christians. Not to mention Christians civil war and half of the population made hectic. Arius Vs Athanasius anyone. What about Unitarianism and Ariusim ? What about the jews ? What about the pagines ? That area wasn't fully Christian. Also as I said Islam spread the government power and didn't force conversation. The area was majority non-muslim ruled by Muslims for centuries until Ottoman times where it got equal and then at thee endeding 2 centuries Muslims become the majority in Egypt and Levant for example.
@@ailediablo79 up to this day the majority of muslin countries are straight up dictatorships who persecute anything else, get your shit together
@@ailediablo79 "Don't want to force people to convert." It's spelt out in the sharia. Trying to deny that along with what aboutism is dishonest. Keep coping it's absolutely barbaric, at least the pope excommunicated the crusaders in the 4th crusade.
@@vaderkurt7848 .... it is absolutely a fact that force conversation is prohibited. Trying to convince people is no force conversation. Bro you are so ignorant about Islamic jurisprudences and history especially early history of first Caliphate. It is not in Islam to force convert. It creats more problems than it solves. It is even super clearly stated in the Quran and by Prophet Mohammad sayings. Infact Ummayads for example rejected people conversation so they can still tax them. Read history you ignorant.
@@ailediablo79 o9.8 The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4)-which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Mlim or else pay the non-Mslim poll tax o9.0 JIHAD (O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion Ya I am not really in a mood to entertain blatant denial or asinine defenses. Read some history.
I have always hated that film for some of the reasons outlined in this video. Good work!
It’s time for a modern crusade
To be fair, salahadin was known to be an unually just a fair ruler. His friendship with Baudouin of Jerusalem is well documented.
As a proud Byzantine, all I have to say is that the 4th crusade was a rather cringe event.
To be fair, and just to be clear, the crusader army was excommunicated before it even got to Constantinople. That crusade went off the rails really right off the bat.
I blame the venetians
IV Crusade was a terrible misunderstading which never should happen and even Pope excommunicated those people.
Lol Christians out here trying so desperately to explain the 4th crusade is so hilarious 😂
@@williamrobert9898 we’ll if you knew it, we wouldn’t have to explain it lol unless you prefer your ignorance of the subject, in that case move along