The Most Epic Front-Wheel Drive Bicycle! DIY
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Crazy Bike Design: Front Wheel Drive and Rear Wheel Steering! Watch me Build and Test it Out!
Get ready to witness the creation of a bike like no other! I recently got my hands on the sleek and easy-to-use Fiido X Folding Electric Bike with Torque Sensor,
but while riding it, my mind couldn't help but wander. What if there was a bike with front wheel drive and rear wheel steering? I couldn't shake this idea,
and it ultimately led me to create this one-of-a-kind bicycle.
Join me in this exciting journey as I build and test out this crazy bike with a front drive wheel and rear wheel steering. The process was filled with challenges and surprises,
and the end result was nothing short of crazy. But I'm thrilled to share this experience with you all.
Do you think you have what it takes to keep your balance on this bike?
Leave your comments and share this video with your friends to find out!
Don't miss out on this thrilling ride.
Meanwhile in the Garage
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Several things. Rear wheel steering is always harder to control. You need to slow down the steering to reduce the steering input. Possibly even limit the amount the rear wheel can turn. Another issue is weight balance. Ideally, you want more weight on the driven wheel. I think the longer wheelbase helps you out here. I wouldn't go shorter. It's certainly very challenging trying new concepts in the cycling world! I built my own front wheel drive, front steer bike that works well. But I went through several prototypes first!
Also steerer angle is reversed... Probably the main cause why its impossible to keep it straight its like pulling your bike backwards
jep, he should look up some bikegeometry first, before building. @@mihkus
Надо с ручным приводом сделать!!!
I was thinking the same thing he definitely needs to take weight off of the rear and change the steering ratio . For one as soon as he set in the bike the suspension bottomed out the you could clearly see the rear steer tire flailing about from the tinyest amount of input
It's just a general issue with real wheel steering, needs time to get used to it as it escapes from under you, goes wider in turn.
The bottom of the forks are behind the steering stem. I think if the bottom of the forks are in front of the steering stem it will be easier to steer. Make make the rear steering arm longer to slow down the steering. I'm sure you are on top of this already!! Cool video!
I think it will make it worse because the wheel will want to rotate to a stable position (bottom of forks behind the steering stem) like in a shopping cart, IMO the issue is that single-track vehicles use countersteering to turn, and in this situation when the steering wheel is in the back that effect makes it impossible to control the bike, maybe if he mounts this fork perpendicularly to the road, it might be easier to control but I think it won't be as stable and easy to ride as a conventional bike :)
Completly agree on that What a clever project once again!!!
Basically the angle of the rear fork needs reversing, so that the wheel contact point trails the steering axis. Then it will be self-stable, and normal counter steering should work.
@@GRAHAMAUSyes steering angle or caster I think it's called
Hi. By having the tyre/road contact point in front of the steering axis you have removed the self castoring action of the steering, and of course this makes it very tricky. I believe if you angle the steering axis the other way (i.e. forward) I reckon it will work, and it will have the added benefit of 'castoring' again. Also, thinking about when riding a conventional bike, when you begin to lose balance to the left, your C of M (centre of mass) is moving to the left of a line between the two tyre/road contact points. In order to correct this imbalance, you move the contact point of the front wheel to the left so that your C of M is brought back into alignment with the two tyre/road contact points. And vice versa. I am therefore wondering if perhaps your steering should move (the 'new' steering wheel) the opposite way to how it is now (in the video). Just my thoughts, but in any case, I'm sure you will get it sorted out. Regards Mark in the UK
И еще нужно бы уменьшить зависимость поворота колеса от угла поворота руля в меньшую сторону.
@@vigornvkz so he comments in english and you comment on him in enchantment table... ENGLISH MOFO DO YOU SPEAK IT
врядли направление наклона вилки улучшит ситуацию со стабилизацией. эффект самораскачивания возникает и на велосипедах и на мотоциклах на большой скорости (с правильным углом наклона к поверхности). в данной конструкции, как и в остальных, он обусловлен люфтами элементов управления и физикой колебаний, которые постепенно нарастают, усиливаются и делают конструкцию неуправляемой
Rear wheel steering bikes as inherently unstable, but who does their homework anyway.
You laughing like a little boy warmed my cold heart just a little bit. Thanks for this it was brilliant. 😂
Glad you enjoyed it
Вы батенька техноизвращенец😁🤣🤣👍👍👍
This is like driving a rear steer forklift. Fantastic build.
Next up - reinvent the wheel, but make it Square, and sell it to Canadians, buddy.
It's easy, you just need a good number of wheels, maybe 10
That’s already been done just not sold to the Canadians lol
Flapping head beady eyed people.
@@prsimoibn2710yeah and let’s make it 70cm x 70cm
Why Canadian lmao
Что могу сказать, ко всему нужна привычка! И на обычном велосипеде, хоть раз, да падал каждый!)
Your work is always fantastic and very interesting to look at. I can't read the English subtitles right away, but I can understand something in the video right away. I'm watching this channel from Japan! I'm rooting for you.
Possibly the greatest sport/trick bike ever created. A super fat rear tire would stabilize it easily
Спасибо за работу, интересно получилось 👍
Sáng tạo tuyệt vời
Go Ucrânia!!!😌
I always like the way your mind works through your conceptual builds. It’s how we learn and grow our ideas.
МашаАллах. Дал беркат дойл хьёх. Ма говзал елла хьун Дала. Дал аьтту бойл хьа брат
Амин. Дал си дойл хьа са ваш.
Молодец ! Крутая идея ! Попробуй два колеса ..на выбор спереди или сзади.. Быть Добру ! Спасибо !
reduce the throw of the steering. the wheel moves more than the handle bars. i also noticed a wobble on the rear steering wheel when you did manage to go straight. maybe a steering dampener like there is on some motorbikes to help prevent the death wobble. great build and great potential
Those "safety ditches" come in handy. Great job, and fun to watch!
Superbe invention, il suffit de diminuer l'angle de braquage arrière et le tour est joué. Exemple : braquage avant du guidon 45° ne fait braquer à l'arrière que de 25° (chiffre au hasard), mais c'est ça l'anglé est trop important a l'arrière pour être stable.
The "Falling in the ditch" scenes are hilarious!😂😂
You are sick! Best bike ever! Do more. I'm fan
Great build :) One thing that could maybe work would be to add a little bit of steering (5-10° maximum) to a long cargo bike. But this would need a special rear hub, able to both steer and drive, and enough chainline to clear the tire in curves. This could make a super nimble long cargo bike.
The fun and joy. That's what matter 😂🥰
There are bikes utilizing these mechanisms already, but it's interesting to see them put together like this. I think it could work. Bullitt from Larry vs. Harry uses the steering mechanism to transfer to the front wheel (it's my daily driver) and it feels amazing. Black Iron Horse 3 wheel cargo bikes use the rear wheel steering in a similar fashion also... But a 3 wheel bike is MUCH harder to tip over. On another note: I'd be curious if you'd consider putting Fat tires (4 inch wide) on a Bullitt cargo bike...? I have been playing with this thought for a while but I'm nowhere near as good with welding aluminium (especially if it comes to sturdiness of a cargo bike).
Realmente eres uno de los mejores ingenieros que he conocido en mi vida... Allah Azza ua djalla te bendiga a ti y a tu familia... mi hermano!!!
Welcome to the inventor Monther from Saudi Arabia. I see that you put the rear wheel in a vertical position on the chassis, because the reason for placing the wheel in an inclined position is for ease of steering. I am very happy to follow you. I wish you more creativity and happiness.
Спасибо за труд автору!👍
Я думаю нужно сделать редукцию от руля к заднему колесу, что бы оно меньше поворачивалось. А так же, ограничить максимальный угол
4 к 1 наверное будет в самый раз 🤔🙄
You can tell by the laughter it's a kind of fun and joy you can only experience when you build stupid stuff. Man I love it!
This is a bike like a forklift😊 exelent work.
Думаю после интенсивной тренировки получится нормально кататься, может даже с удовольствием. А так, сама идея отличная ! Работа выполнена качественно, красиво. Респект!Удачи в начинаниях!
Нохчи мот биц ца бина Аш Вежари👍
Ца бина
Thank you for including the faceplant into the ditch… Great Video
Х1о гараж чу вит мегар дац)) дик ю 👍
これはスゴすぎます！！ ぜひ完成させてください。
Поздравляю, вы заново изобрели велосипед. :)
Too bad it didn't work out. Happy you finally built your idea to see how it worked. One must free those demons so they don't haunt you. Keep following your dreams. Man must follow his dreams to be happy.
That was the funniest video that I've been watching on the entire KZhead 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍
Friend... make a trike with two driven wheels in the front... And one steerable wheel at the rear!!!
عمل رائع جدا لكن عليك تطويل مرفق العجلة الخلفية لتحكم أكثر في التوجيه تصميم مميز
You should try to make a bike that steers with both wheels.
I really wanted this to work for him. Great skills and boldly innovative. All the great things came from somebody at least first trying.
You need a bigger rake on the rear steering wheel, as with castors that self align straight. Also add a small pneumatic piston and cylinder will help!
I'll be following your next work.
beaucoup de génie pour un un vrai casse gueule! Bravo tout de même
Привет, больно смотреть! Нужно попробовать развернуть вилку в другую сторону, чтоб заднее колесо держало курс. Идея забавная)
Мы катались в детстве, сидя на руле, спиной вперед, ощущения те еще... педали крутишь наоборот и рулевое колесо за спиной)) здесь конечно все по другому, но некоторые моменты вызвали те же ощущения. А вообще супер, забавный байк получился! Лайк, однозначно! PS. Что бы так не заносило, надо изменить рычаги на тяге, спереди короче, сзади длиннее
стабилизатор на заднее колесо нужно ставить чтоб он тянул в центральное положение, ну и да, тяги на руле должны быть короче чем на колесе, ему не нужны резкие повороты, нужен контроль.
Haha, that crossroad where you tested the bike is basically my backyard
Аллах1 Дала аьтто бойла брат ❤
Амин, хьаъ бойл са ваш
That is some sick engineering, bravo!
1. Why 2. Interesting concept and it looks cool 3. You gave me an idea. Could you make it (or another bike) with traction both at front and rear? I think it would be interesting to see how it ends up working.
It doesn't work, steering from the rear makes it less controllable because you can't even see the angle of the wheel as you move your handlebars making it very difficult to maneuver, another thing is that front wheel drive only works if you have a stable fixed rear wheel which is why most vehicles that has front wheel drives are tricycles and cars because they have two wheels at the back not one like a bicycle
@@traphimawari7760 There are E bycicles with one or both wheel built motors .Some of them have front hub motors and work just fine.
@@armageddontools im talking about rear steering not fwd, sure wherever you place the engine be it front or rear it will work, but that doesn't go the same for steering, the only time rear wheel steering works is on forklifts, not bikes, rear wheel steering simply doesn't work on two wheels alone, its just common sense
I like the way your channel, shop, skills and even your English has been evolving! Keep up the great work! Love watching your projects! Greetings from a Bulgarian in Florida 👍
Well done, you just invented an unstealable bicycle
Хороший велосипед, ни кто угнать не сможет 😂
❤❤ from Nepal 🇳🇵
Not among your brightest ideas..... But it was a pleasure looking you working as always.....
The front wheel steer naturally keeps the bike up. The turns actually assist you with keeping the bike from falling, however, if you put the turn in the back, the turns force you to fall. :D
You should do something with its handle so it's don't turn easily while beginning the ride. Overall awesome bike, love it
Your tee joint welds at 4:13 are amazing. My joints are quite literally gone after I've had at them with a tig torch.
Дружище у тебя наклон колеса заднего не в ту сторону, это кастор называется. Переверни его на 180 и всё у тебя отлично поедет) А ещё у меня есть идея колесо не поворачивать, а наоборот наклонять)) Вот это будет вообще))))
Bro, l laughed more at your bumbling on the highway than at a complete season of any american standup comedy, you made my day :-)
maybe adding more rake on the rear fork would make it less sensitive .
Можно сделать платный аттракцион,кто дальше поедет😂
I like that it folds up and doesn't take up a lot of space if it was normal I would buy it
Great job on the build. I will be curious on how long it takes you to master riding your new rear steer cycle. I hope you keep us updated. Again.
Great job.
SPEED WOBBLES like nothing else😱
Now everyone can know why on a bicycle the spinning wheel is in front. Bravo!!!
La práctica constancia lo lograrás, muy loco e innovador tu bike. Exitos en tus otro proyectos.
👍👍👍
Скоро миллион 👍🏼 Ма шаа Аллах
You need to look at the trail of the rear fork - the caster effect - to make the steering more stable.
I was so confused watching the making of this one-of-a-kind bike 😅 Great engineering 👍
🤩 The energy in this video is contagious! Loved every moment! 🌈💃
Красава, упорство и труд- всё перетрут. Можно сдавать в аттракцион, кто удержится 1 мин тому 100€
😆The angle of the rear wheel head will make the wheel unstable. Extend the frame and install the fork in the direction of travel.
I very excited to see the second version 2.0 with another wheel on the front for equilibrium control I bet it's all you need it to add 😉😎
Необычная и интересная работа. Она стоит того, чтобы довести эту идею до ума. Возможно могло бы получиться более интересно внешне и могла бы увеличиться устойчивость при управлении, если сделать на оси управления двойную вилку с двумя колесами и доработать ход руля.
А смысл? Это же просто баловство...
@@Make_SPACE...NOT-War- смысл количестве лайков, просмотров и подписчиков!
@@user-ly4iw7vs8f Похоже на то...
Thank you for making me laugh at the end!
Looks like a bad dream 😂really funny
simply amazing
You did it well again. Congrats.
Я думаю если поставить мини редуктор рулевого управления и тем самым уменьшив резкость поворота можно достичь ровновесия.
Ý tưởng tuyệt vời ạ
I think you should ship this bike to Sam Pilgrim. He is the only one that could use this bike. :D
Excellent proof of concept, for the regular bicycle.
i feel bad for laughing as hard as i did watching you go headfirst into the ditch multiple times x_x XD awesome video!
Чтобы падать? Вот это цель!
Интересный концепт! Хорошая работа. Продай его в магазин вело товаров! 😊
Всё-таки невозможно переизобрести велосипед. Но, было интересно посмотреть на это чудо инженерной мысли.
The down in the ditch, with boots in the air... Sorry, I had to laugh! Great Video! That's about how I felt learning to control a tail wheel airplane!!
Рычаг на передней вилке уменьшить, на задней удлинить. Тогда руль будет не такой чувствительный и можно будет норм ехать.
Resistance in the handlebar would help. Put in a spring that pulls the bar and wheel straight when not being pulled either way by the rider. That will make taking off a lot easier.
It looks like you need to change the steering brackets so that you need to move the handle bars further and get less movement from the rear wheel steering. At the moment the slightest twitch in the handle bars sends the back end flying out. By changing the brackets so you have to move the handlebars further you should get a much smoother and easier ride. Please can you try to do a second episode? That bike is far too cool to end up in the scrap heep 😊👍👍👍👍👍
Мне кажется угол наклона заднего колеса нужно ещё поднять под девяносто градусов! Кажется оно завалено назад и поэтому так резко реагирует и сразу поворачивается, и заваливается то в лево то в право?! Желаю удачи в доработке конструкции.
Add a steering damper to stiffen up the steering. The other thing working against you is balance. If you shift your position even a little the bike reacts a lot. You steer bikes by leaning to one side or the other and don't even need the handlebars other than to hold onto them for the vast majority of the time. Make the steering really stiff. I think that will help quite a bit
Me encanta tu otra bike.
Brilliant, I couldn't even ride it a meter, maybe a bit of damping on the steering, it would give you more control.
Let’s try it - freak bikes are for the fun!
Попробуй сделать рикшу с задним поворотным колесом . Плиз 😊😊😊
It almost looks like there is a small amount of play in the steering rack of the bike. Maybe add a gas strut (like the ones on car hoods/ bonnets) to control the wobbling? It may also help with fine steering adjustment. Or it might not do that.
t'es vraiment un fou j'adore, continue
Great bike idea, I think if you set the back steering fork straight up and down that will get rid of the easy rider effect. Then also your back wheel reacts to quickly. If you bring in your steering joint more to the center next to the center you won't have that flapping around of the back wheel. That way if your handle bars moves a little back and forth from peddling the back wheel won't react as quickly to it. Also maybe put a limitor on the amount the back wheel can turn left and right. Like a fork truck with the wheels in the back it does not need much to turn as you drive. But it is always easier said then done but I have build a lot of bikes and customized motorcycles also for fun as a hobbie because of working in an aerospace engineering r&d lab fabrication machining and welding job. Always felt like a kid in a candy store. The more you build stuff the more you learn, and then your old and have to slowly give up things you love doing because of other circumstances. But keep it up, love watching your video's. You have a great talent. And open that garage door when your painting and welding those fumes will kill your brain. Put a suction fan in the garage wall to suck the fumes out. I was born in Arnhem the Netherlands and moved to California when I was 6. So from a former Dutchman, je doet geweldig mooi werk 👍. Plus you have a fun attitude making your films.
It seems to me that, stability-wise this is the same as riding a fixed gear bicycle backwards. There are people who can do this of course but it takes practice to get the hang of it and it isn't stable. In learning to do a trackstand I found that correcting for balance in the backwards direction is only possible for small corrections. For large corrections it is not recoverable; instability sets in. However, rear wheel steering is possible and stable for tricycles (see black iron horse tricycles and others), where balance stability is not an issue.