Everything GREAT About Spider-Man: No Way Home!
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I love how DaFoe takes a near 20 year break, comes back is immediately blows 99% of the MCU villains out of the water
@KCI'm sure there's some nostalgia factoring into it but holy fuck he is just one of the all time greatest actors
@@puresh9072 agreed. He crushed this role.
green goblin is the goat villain.
He was so scary back then…. It’s amazing he could even top that performance, let alone give us fresh nightmare fuel. 10/10 Willem
Ironically he blows his own Goblin from the original movie out of the water easily too. I didn't like the campy terrible Goblin from the Raimi movie, but in this movie he was actually great. It's all about the script and tone.
I love how Tobey just walked right through the portal as if it’s an everyday occurrence for him.
I do wish they kind of pushed that "we're in a different universe that is different in some ways". Tobey learns that conners is the Lizard, Andrew geeking about alien's, things like that.
And then there is Andrew Garfield with that “Wait, I can explain!” attitude 😂
In all fairness. All normalcy went out the window the minute he was bitten by a radioactive spider. Sense then he’s fought his best friends dad dressed as a power ranger bad guy, a mentor who became a octopus, a alien ball of slime that became a alien ball of annoying, and also a man made of literal sand.
@@DirtyDan16325 not saying he wouldnt be suprised but it wouldve been nice to see them talk more about each others differences and if not their universes have the same villians or people
Doctor Strange does exist in Tobey's universe
I love how calming the older Spider-Men are. I love how Andrew’s is still emotionally vulnerable and chooses to share that for Tom’s benefit rather than close himself off, and Tobey’s is the one that grounds them both with maturity and wisdom.
its just weird they are all older when the time is supposed to flow at the same rate in most if not all universes
@@ravinraven6913 Time flows at the same rate, but that doesn’t mean they’re supposed to be in sync. Canonically Tobey’s Spidey began in the early 2000s, Andrew’s in the early 2010s, and Tom’s in the late 2010s. Their times ARE flowing at roughly the same rate, it’s just that around the time Tobey’s Spidey was getting started in his own universe, in the MCU universe Tom’s was a little boy. The timelines make sense.
@@ravinraven6913 have you not seen spider verse. There are plenty of Spider-Man different ages. That’s always been the case with multiverse story telling
@MisterTwister blame the Christian, not Christ.
when andrew's peter asked mj was she ok she nodded and i loved how she asked if was ok afterwards❤❤❤❤
Something I think people miss is when Strange says "All the people who love you, WE won't remember you."
YES!!! They all love him so much, no matter what. Even if he has his dumb moments, they see the potential in him and don't want to miss his growth. That's how I've always taken Strange's line. He wants to be there.
What I love so much about Willem Dafoe/Green Goblin compared to other Spider-Man villains is that he’s the only one who has that “Joker” vibe where the insanity is believable. He wants to break the characters down to his level. And he damn near did it again with Tom’s Peter Parker.
There's a reason why people really want him to play the Joker, defoe actually wants to play a joker imposter that Joaquin Phoenix has to deal with
Technically speaking Carnage is marvels joker
Defoe is perfect for the Joker. He looks just like the Arkham version.
@@cosmicodyssey3382 ...how? what technicality is that? green goblin is 100% the mcu's joker
@@importedposter4152 More like Joker, Bane and Lex Luthor rolled into one. He has Luthor's wealth and tech, Joker's insanity and unpredictability and his super powers makes him a physical threat as well.
The fact that it's already been almost 2 years since this masterpiece was released is mind-blowing
Wait what? It's been that long??
WHAT
What?? How??
No pls ur making me feel old
I don’t think enough people are paying notice on how it’s the “One More Day” story done absolutely right. He only does the memory wipe not to save Aunt May, but to save billions of people.
I like that they presented Andrew-Spidey as Spider-Man in his first scene while Tobey-Spidey was introduced as Peter Parker. It fits with how Andrew has been remarked on as the best version of the superhero while Tobey has been the best version of Peter, with Tom Holland in-between.
It definitely has to do with the fact that Tobey's Peter Parker, while not the most accurate to the original comics, is the most enjoyed interpretation. Andrew's technically is more accurate to the original, but people don't really remember how Peter was kind of vengeful towards his bullies until Ben died in the original run. I do agree with your assessment that Tobey is best Peter and Andrew is best Spidey, but the shared opinions don't necessarily reflect the comic accuracy some may prefer.
@@jasonkeith2832 My gripe with Andrew's Peter is that his father somehow inserted his own genes in the Oscorp spiders and ensured that Andrew's Pete will be the only one to get Spider-Man powers. I mean, what's even this? This is literally some DC level crap. But deep down I love to believe that this whole father thing is a hoax set up by the Jackal in Webb-verse whose existence is still unknown to us.
@@jasonkeith2832 About Peter being vengeful thing... are you referring to the original Ditko comics? Then everything makes sense, and Tobey's Peter is then more like the Romita comics.
It also makes sense for where they are in their respective journeys at the time. Andrew-spidey "doesn't have time for Peter Parker" stuff, so we're more likely to catch him out and about in his suit, but Tobey's is "trying to make it work" and seems to have a balance between his personas.
@@mottom2657To be fair, that was really only in his universe so that statement does not apply to every other universe which is what I usually didn’t like how people just downplayed this opinion. overall I do agree still there are some “questionable” ideas Sony had for tasm.
God the Hello Peter NEVER gets old Also, Andrew catching Zendaya as a way to redeem himself for not catching Gwen will ALWAYS make me cry
That Andrew Garfield line about Gwen... I lost the woman I thought I was going to marry in a fatal car accident 11 years ago. That pain never goes away. I'm married now, have 2 kids, but I still think of her daily. That delivery from Garfield isn't just perfect, it's beyond perfect. Its the best line in this movie and the entire MCU and it's not even close.
Man I'm so so sorry this just hit me in the gut I lost an ex to suicide so that line hit me hard too because if only I had been there for him
My fiancé, who will become my husband at the end of June, was the one to find his first fiancé a month before their wedding in their bathroom. She’d relapsed and overdosed. He now has a rule when it’s just us in the house to not close the bathroom door all the way. I don’t mind it and do my best to ease his fears when they become too much. I’ve let him talk about her with me when he needs to. That kind of trauma never goes away. It may heal, but the scar is still there. I hope your wife is there for you when those memories come up.
Think about your wife bruh wtf
@@edgy_name_ if only
@@OhSoNasty stfu
Love what you said about Andrew's delivery of "I lost Gwen. She was my MJ." You can just tell that it goes beyond acting and I do believe there's some true feeling and emotion with his delivery. Him and Emma Stone being a couple IRL at the time of his movies and them no longer being together, they truly had love for each other and the way he talks about her in recent interviews shows he still has love for her.
A thing I love about their performances is that it really highlights how Tobey and Andrew have a solid portfolio of more serious drama roles that show they can actually convey the deeper emotions both Spidermen have carried since we last saw them.
Also timeline might be wonky because of Covid pausing production but if this was also around Andrew filming Tick Tick Boom, then Andrew’s mother had recently passed away and I wonder if he channeled a bit of that.
That Story where Andrew had to lie to Emma about not being in NWH until she found out will never not be funny.
Every now and then, there's a meme that's so perfect and so pure that it can withstand even the withering of decades, and hearing Willem Defoe say "You know, I'm something of a scientist myself" is perfection.
The thing that really gets me about DaFoe's performance here is that he chose to do his own stunts as much as possible. With fight scenes that involved him getting slammed into walls and floors, and punched several times in the face. And he's in his mid-sixties!
Yeah it's really no wonder that he is considered a BEAST of an actor even all these years later.
Apparently the scene where he cackles after getting punched by Tom unnerved a lot of the crew. Dude is really good at the scary laugh thing
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Amen
Oh, Whatever will we do when he passes? I don't wanna live to that day.
I love the subtext of Garfield saying "I just don't want you to end up like me" when we consider how much hate he got for his movies before they became more appreciated in recent years. Brings a tear to my eye
for real
Also the fact that they indirectly said that he is one of the few Spidermen that have intentionally killed their enemies definitely helps cement his fear of Tom's Spiderman becoming him.
I love MJ's "Yes, my spider overlord" line... her delivery is fantastic.
You know they had to have laughed at that line so many times during shooting. The deadpan way she did it would have made anyone laugh at the time 🤣
Lame
@@kyorikusagami84 Sadly MJ is not Diana of Themyscira.
25:50 I love that Holland’s Peter Parker angrily slams the cure for Norman down but gently puts the others down. Like, ‘you killed my aunt but her good morals live on in me so I’m being nice to you despite how much I hate you’
Also, a few minutes before that, you can see just how much force he was using, as the other Spider-Man was *actively struggling* to hold the glider back. Norman/Goblin is gonna feel those hits for *a while* even after being saved.
@@gothicbutterfly013 I also found it poetic Tobey-Peter _stopped_ Goblin from being impaled by his own glider. It's not as big a redemption as Andrew-Peter saving the girl, but it's there.
@daviddaugherty2816 also a good point
That Doctor Strange "hmm" to Ned must have been out of jealousy. Strange had a really hard time creating portals, which even needed him to be brought to the top of Mt. Everest, while Ned was creating portals in the 12 hours Strange spent in the mirror dimension.
Not jealousy. As a public figure, Strange probably gets people talking to him all the time claiming they are "magic" too. So to meet someone who actually has potential would be a welcome change.
@Johnnie Quinn I think you're both right here
tbh most of Strange's problem making portals was his rigidity whereas Ned believed from the start
nah, I interpreted it more in a "I'll keep that in mind, in case we need new recruits because they all die again." it's good to have spares!
Strange back then was over thinking it with logic n stuff compared to Ned who just did it and believed in it
You missed the part where Strange tells him that everyone that loves him will forget him, and emphasis we will all forget. Including himself admitting he loves him too People forget that this Peter Parker is Spider-Man in the across the multiverse trailer he says the Spider-Man and Strange he didn't know if it was a Peter Parker or someone else
Wong said to keep him out of it. Did Strange keep his promise?
Does that mean rocket remembers that hairless ape with webs or…
Underrated detail but since Nick Fury is off world....*he still knows who Spider-Man is*. After all, the spell is to "brainwash the entire world", not the entire universe. Like yeah the multiverse beings forgot about Spider-man but those cracks are on earth. Also yeah there is that detail that Nick was a Skrull in Far From Home but I feel like he's the kind of guy who would've known anyway. Tony may have told him prior to Infinity War.
@@DaizoDeeVonOfficialAs Across the Spiderverse hilariously established, no, the Multiverse did _not_ forget what Peter and Strange did.
@@DaizoDeeVonOfficialI feel like I’m getting gaslit, but he most definitely never said that. I swear the spell was “make everyone forget Peter Parker exist” and not anything having to do with “the world” or “on Earth”, but I keep seeing people say stuff like this even though it makes no sense
The part that bothered me about the Tom Holland movies was that we didn't get to see the triggering event that turned him into Spider-Man. I wrongly assumed that they didn't want to tread the same path by showing Uncle Ben's death and that's why he was already gone before the first movie. When May started talking about responsibility, I realized that all of Tom Holland's appearance as Spider-Man to this point were actually just his origin story. Being on his own at the very end of this movie is the beginning of Spider-Man.
To add to your point, the ending was a mirror of the animated tv show spidermans intro sequence
The scene where the other Spideys confirmed what Uncle Ben said to them is also telling that he probably wasn't there on the night Ben died
I don't usually take superhero movies (or any movies) terribly seriously, but there have been two moments in the MCU that made me legitimately tear up: Tony's funeral at the end of Endgame, and Andrew Garfield Spider Man catching MJ and their conversation afterward. Garfield plays that moment so incredibly well. You feel all the weight of his loss and the responsibility that he feels not just for Gwen's death, but any bad thing that he can't prevent. His relief at being able to save her is palpable and his emotions are presented so sincerely. Gets me every time. What a brilliant movie.
I think the trilogy overall did a fantastic job of establishing Tom's Spider-Man ethos and themes. _Homecoming_ establishes his humility, or the working class vibe we associate with Spidey. _Far From Home_ establishes the responsibility of Spidey, or his duty to maintain the mantle. _No Way Home_ establishes the guilt of not being able to save those most important to him, and why he can never sacrifice the greater good for an easier life.
No. He knows about Responsibility since Civil War. He even chose helping over Liz's party. Far From Home was a lesson to not trust everybody.
That's a very accurate breakdown!
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything" ~ Plato
Amazing! True true true!
27:30 I like the details in their reactions. Tom and his friends are surprised by the organic web but quickly move on as they live in a world where aliens, gods and magic exist. Andrew however is the most dumbfounded and curious as he hasn’t yet experience much crazy stuff in his universe. It really shows the difference between these Spider-Man and the worlds they live in
Andrew is the most realistic one than the other two
andrew is so literally your friendly NEIGHBOURHOOD spiderman
the three peters being like wholesome brothers was 110% my favorite part of this damn movie. give me a WHOLE movie of their shenanigans pls i'm begging. any scene the three of them were in together was pure gold
At 25:45 , its also noteworthy that when Tom was going through each of the villians cure, when it gets to the Green Goblin, he doesnt outright call his name and he subtly slams the cure on the table too. Just great attention to detail and great acting on Toms part
Alfred Molinas "you're all grown up" will always make me cry, i saw spiderman 2 at like age 5 for the first time, and it really feels like that line was meant for us. such a great homage too so many peoples childhoods. still surreal how well they blended great storytelling and fanservice perfectly for an almost perfect spiderman movie
That happy reunion scene between those two was so fucking good. I love how they even acknowledged Alfred Ock's original motive before his life went to shit while he was holding the device
Same here for me. I was 8 when Spiderman 2 came out, but only 6 when the first released. I went to watch the first movie with my parents at an open air cinema when we were on holiday in Greece. The Green Goblin really scared me!
“Trying to do better” is it for me. But the “you’ve all grown up” hits differently too
To get even deeper, this movie is like a second chance to do the reviled One More Day story right. The memories of Peter’s friends are gone, but it’s a consequence Peter suffers from rather than a choice he makes. And Aunt May stays dead.
One more day done, right 👌
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages" ~ Shakespeare
It really is incredible how they took what is probably the single most hated Spider-Man story and adapted it into one of the best Spider-Man movies.
@@wordswordswords413agreed
I LOVE how at 23:11 Toby's Spiderman kicks off the ceiling just to get on the ground that partial second sooner to have the upper edge. You can really see he's been in the business a while with stuff like that1
One of the BEST DaFoe moments was seconds after he was cured. The facial acting, the moment, the tone, the remorse you feel in Norman. His "What have I done?" Strikes so much feeling. He's just waking up from the nightmare of the goblin
The dolly zoom scene gave so much anxiety and edge , not because of what could happen to Peter but because may was there in a room filled with living bombs
My mom, brother, and I had three different reactions to that scene. My mom knew she was a target as soon as he was in FEAST. She groaned as soon as he showed up. My brother got upset as soon as the dolly zoom started. The moment Goblin said "Yep. Just me." Was the moment for me. All of us had that "lying dog lifts their head and growls" moment, but it was my mom, a Spider-Man fan since 1993, who picked up on it first. When May died, she felt it the worst.
I love how there is so much fanservice in this movie and its done incredibly well. It doesn't feel force or overly contrived. It just works. Probably the only character this would work with to that degree.
I submit that the reason the “fanservice” works here is because they served the characters and the story first. Do that properly and primarily and you serve the fans by sheer side effect. That’s what makes it feel genuine. When filmmakers serve the fans first, they run the risk of bending the characters out of shape and having the moments come off as forced. Here, the characters stayed true to themselves. Even Osborn saying his iconic line seems like something the impish Goblin persona would push through Norman’s psyche to say. So, credit to everyone involved! Writers, producers, director, and of course actors!
probably the only character it would work with because so far only a few people have had different actors. But only spiderman seems to be universally liked, as opposed to...Captain Marvel and Hulk...Even Doctor Strange was the same actor from a different universe but everyone else was a different actor.
Fun fact, apparently no one knew Dafoe was going to laugh when being punched repeatedly. The shock on Hollands face was real. Also I once saw a picture of a force ghost lookin Gwen Stacy standing next to Andrew Garfield after he catches MJ with her head laying on his shoulder and it unironically made me cry.
Man I wanna see
1.) it is a proven fact that if someone starts laughing while being subjected to a beat down, your fear of them should immediately increase at least twofold. 2.) I also want to see the mentioned art.
Like the Joker in Dark Kinght. Same vibes! Now thats acting!
Remember that interview with tom hanks, where he tested Tom Holland's acting skills by saying "boy oh boy I really need a cup of coffee", I feel like Tom Holland really gets it, that "I....would like a coffee" (36:46) covers multiple expressions, mainly: hopefulness, sad, disappointment, happy and relief.
Felt like a dream when I saw Andrew, Tobey, and Tom having a conversation in their Spider-Man suits.
Miles morales put Tobey and Andrew and tom in a coma
Yes.
@@Goku23864wth?
@@mrmarty9729 Tobey and Andrew and tom are scared of miles morales
it feels and look to much like cgi
I really wish we could've had a Spidey cameo in Hawkeye since they made it so clear he was webslinging all over the city before Kate cut down the tree in Rockefeller center.
I believe I heard at one point at the main guy behind the show actually wanted a Spider-Man cameo, but it wasn't allowed. Which makes sense, it would have spoiled the reveal of Peter's new suit at the end of No Way Home.
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Spidey cameo in the upcoming War Machine/Armor Wars.
Maybe in the new season we’ll get one
@@godofthecripples1237 my headcanon for that is that a little after no way home ending is the Hawkeye finale and spidey is in a different part of New York fighting crime or just stalking Ned and mj.
whats a hawkeye?
"Damn, gotta be careful where you fall" is still one of my favorite lines from the MCU. It's so funny. This movie has some funny moments that really helped through all the crying I was doing in the theatre.
Also applies to Gwen and MJ.
27:40 the reassuring nod from Andrew crackes me up every time. they all did so good in this movie.
Loki was falling for thirty minutes, so Strange stuck for 12 hours is so fitting. Also, love the fact that some of the comedy from Andrew and Zendaya were improv.
Did not know that about the improv, but somehow I am not surprised!
I cried so hard when Andrew caught MJ. You can see it all over his face, the relief at saving her, feeling like he has slightly redeemed himself in his eyes, but the wistfulness of wishing he could've done it right the first time. I heard somewhere that Emma Stone was gonna be in the movie (idk how true that is) because Gwen knew he was Spidey and the spell was for people that knew his identity. And that would've broken my heart, for Andrew to be reunited with his love, if only for a moment, only to realise that once the spell is reversed, he has to go back to a universe where she's dead. This movie was so good and reignited my passion for movies and wanting to make them
Hell, I cried when they showed it in this video… it was such a compelling moment, and everything about the way it was written and performed is exceptional
I do like that while his spiderman might not be considered the "best" for a lot of peeps, he's the only one that can do the catch because he's the only one that learned from doing it the wrong way.
At 19:49 You can see the terror on Normans face because he turned back into Norman. But the next punch turns him back into Goblin
The scene where Andrew caught MJ made both me and my sister start bawling. We watched it at separate times as we live on different sides of Canada, but that moment blew us both away.
The Andrew catch gave me the awesomest goosebumps. The absolute relief and redemption in his entire being. Worth the price of admission on it’s own.
I think there's a lot more there, like his instincts kick in and he saves her, but when he's standing there at the bottom he looks at her and is reminded of Gwen and just thinks "god I wish you were someone else" which isnt great and really devalues MCU mj, but it shows that Andrews Spidey is human, he's not above these intrusive thoughts and he really need to take a moment to process the situation and his emotions about it and it's just so real, so visceral
I think it also shows that he was replaying that moment over and over in his mind, probably every night for years after it happened, and just thinking "if I had just done it this way". He finally got to do it right, and I think he's just glad that he could finally put that regret and sadness to use and save someone else.
The entire MCU was worth that few seconds of Garfield's Redemption alone.
The look in his eyes "I could have saved her" as he looks down after asking MJ is she is okay. Andrew is just a treasure, I'm so happy he was my favorite Spiderman and got his redeemption.
@@jannietfeld4717 Yep. That there was the very definition of “a swirl of emotions” for a character. So many powerful feelings about significant things and the conscious mind can barely cope. We all knew Andrew Garfield has range but they really gave him an opportunity to shine in that moment. And hats off to Zendaya for being a perfect scene partner, exuding empathy more powerful than the relief MJ was still experiencing. Sometimes story, dialogue, and action can make us forget when great actors are in a CBM scene but they stuck the landing on performance here. (…even if the VFX didn’t quite stick the Spidey landing.)
In the post-Endgame set of movies, this is the only one that has felt like a pre-Endgame MCU movie. Everything I wanted and more. With great Spidermen comes great storylines.
Oh man, I feel that. Ever since 'Endgame', almost all of the MCU movies are missing something. They don't have the same soul and cohesivity, like Marvel doesn't know where it's heading.
I mostly agree. Shang-Chi was pretty great.
I feel like there's a bit of bias to calling this the ONLY one that feels like a pre-Endgame movie.
@@astralboyo It's an opinion.
@@traviscecil3903 ow that GotG 3 is out, what did you think of it?
I was sad about Aunt May but I feel like I knew something like that was bound to happen. MCU's Peter hadn't really experienced a lowest point yet -- the point where every previous Spider-man has been pushed to just want to wallow in their anger and sadness and just pour it into someone they are fighting. He is just lucky that this time he didn't have to be alone when it happened.
One of the most nostalgic moments in this for me was when Tobey shows them his webshooting and it has the same sound design as the old movies. Just loved it.
Andrew not only caught her instead of web, but propelled himself down like he was a swimmer. And he did it basically on instict. This is a move he's practiced countless times over and over and over and over and over and you can tell!
This actually makes perfect sense. He's replayed that moment infinite times since it happened, trying to rework how he'd do it over again if he could, if he just had that chance. And he gets his chance, and does what he'd settled on as the "correct" course of action, and it WORKS. How utterly cathartic, but also how absolutely heartbreaking to know for sure that he could save her now with the benefit of hindsight and practice.
One thing I loved about the classic line in this trilogy is that when Stark meets Peter for the first time and Peter alludes to Uncle Ben, we assume that Marvel was just glossing over Spider-Man's backstory and that he had already heard the "With great power comes great responsibility" line and we as the audience didn't need to hear it again. So, we thought we were safe from Peter losing someone (except for maybe Stark) because he had already heard it. THEN Aunt May says and it just breaks your heart because you never see it coming but when it does it just seems inevitable. Great writing.
That is a fantastic point. I didnt even think about that. Wow Civil War seems like so long ago...
I think a lot of us assumed that Uncle Ben’s death was minimized for Holland’s Peter, but then at the scene in the cemetery May’s grave is by itself-no Ben Parker next to it. So did the MCU Peter even have an Uncle Ben?
@@christianvalentin5344 I think he did. One of his concerns when he finds out that Stark knows who he is is that Aunt May would find out and get even more stressed out because she was already stressed about losing Uncle Ben. I think, in my head, we were supposed to infer that Holland's spidey got told the "great power" line and we just never heard it on screen. Then when we hear Aunt May say it, we realize he never did, and that throws us all for a loop.
My theory is that MCU Spidey did have an Uncle Ben, but his death wasn’t the usual “killed by a thief Peter let get away.” How he died is unclear, but assuming it wasn’t natural causes, it still lead to Peter being motivated to use his powers as a hero. Uncle Ben instilled a general sense of responsibility into Pete, while May’s death solidified that with the classic quote, while also leaving him the trademark Spider-Man guilt.
I was eleven years old when Raimi's first Spider-Man came out. I grew up watching these Spider-Men bring each of their renditions to life. I know the Marvel film universe is passe at this point, but my God this one was important to me. Watching them all come back. The surprise of the film was absolutely Garfield; his combination of awkward middle child Spidey who is aware that he was the bronze medal of the film universes and the utterly heart wrenching performance when he remembers Gwen, he stole the show completely. I don't think we'll ever see a film quite like this one again. It has twenty years of history behind it. Nothing else could even come close to it. And I'm so damn happy we got the chance to experience it.
It's also really really dark if you think about it, that Andrew Spidey says he stopped pulling punches. Spidey is so strong that without holding back, he'd be breaking bones like toothpicks ☠️
I feel like the reason Ock talking to Tobey hits so hard is because it feels like he's talking to us the people who grew up on Tobey's Spider-Man.
I hope the next Spiderman movie will actually make "Peter isn't willing to endanger his friends and loved ones, but they understand the risks and want to be in his life anyway and he needs to respect that" the main character arc of the film.
You want spider man to be happy? Lol I wish that too buddy, honestly, but it's the character. He suffers to teach us
@@joaoantonio7794 it’s not about Spider-Man being happy or not, it’s about the people he cares about having the choice to bare the risks of life and limb to still be with him. Also if another one dies or is very injured, Spider-Man would most certainly not be happy.
@@pmpowalisz I get your point, and it makes sense, but even if they take this path for the new movies, I think it'll be a little detrimental to the trilogy, I might be wrong of course, they can use the storyline you suggested to end the run on a high note. And for the end of tom Holland's run it makes sense, but the MCU is so long, I doubt they will retire his character
@@pmpowalisz and also, sorry if this makes zero sense, writing I'm English sometimes is quite the challenge
Please, just let him be happy.
27:22 I love tom "WOAH" when tobey shots his webs without web shooters
Many people nowadays like to say that Top Gun: Maverick was the one that saved moviegoing during the pandemic, yet this film was basically Sony's Endgame and is still domestically the highest-grossing of the 2020s. Though Avatar 2 surpassed it worldwide, helped by getting a Chinese release.
The amazing thing is that (you may know it too) NWH earned this much without being released in PRC! NWH is probably still banned in PRC... why? Statue of Liberty! 🤣🤣🤣
For me the real goat of this movie was Andrew, he just came across so willing to be Spiderman again, and in this he really shows how good he is at being Spiderman compared to his movies with questionable writing. Like when I left the movie, his Spiderman is what I was really thinking about, and seeing him be able to redeem his character and show his acting prowess was amazing to see. Edit: and of course the real hitter was him saving MJ, that hit me so hard in the feels and I still get goosebumps and well up now seeing it again, his acting and emotions coming across in that scene are something else
As I recall, Andrew has ALWAYS loved and wanted to be Spiderman, but suffered a bit with the writing. This movie just absolutely solidified to me that he is a great Spidey.
@@ThinlyCut90 Exactly, he even presented the idea of the bullied kid in TASM 2
From a purely emotional level, Andrew Garfield takes the big win for me. From an all-around story and acting perspective, I can't get over Willem Dafoe's performance. Still acting it up and chewing the scenery with the camp established the first time around, but adding a layer of true evil and destruction that I could barely handle. He got a great script to work with, obviously, and presumably had some great direction as well, but he's the one who delivered his lines and made me FEEL the evil at the core of the Goblin. Masterful.
Golden age of movies indeed. We were suitably spoiled in the best way. The "black Spider-Man" moment means even more since fans pushing for Donald Glover as Peter ahead of Garfield being cast is the reason Miles Morales was created. This is why a clip of Community with Glover wearing Spidey jammies plays on Uncle Aaron's TV in Spider-Verse.
And now glover plays prowler, uncle to miles in the MCU
ok the crying because of childhood memories aside, this was one of, if not THE BEST experience I've ever had watching something in the cinema. Just a full house surrounded by fans, the shared gasps and laughs and "ayeee"'s at the inside jokes and memes?? never felt that connected to a room full of people since watching Captain Marvel and it was so so so good?? for that alone this movie will always be held in my heart
Andrew has been my favourite Spider-Man since ASM came out in 2012. He absolutely stole this movie for me. His line delivery, his facial expressions. The way you can tell he's happy to be playing the character again. The moment he catches MJ makes me cry every time. He finally got the redemption he deserved with this film. You're right, people did not appreciate him as Spiderman when we had him. After this movie came out, the outpouring love people had for him made me so happy. He deserved all of it.
I once saw a post which stated that tobey's version was like, the best Peter Parker [awkward, nerdy], while andrew's was the best Spider-man [quippy and toeing the line of deadly and friendly], while tom's is Not quite exactly there yet for either, but is still a pretty accurate version of both... The introduction of Andrew's version [wearing his suit] and Tobey's version [in the Peter Parker persona] felt like a call back to that to me when i saw this in theaters.
That's almost something I've posted more than once... But not exactly so it's safe to say that wasn't me.
I've seen the conversation plenty of time on forums across the webs (pun not intended). That being said with Toby being the better Peter & Andrew being the better Spiderman at the time we got Tom, you see that Toby essentially arrives as Peter, Andrew arrives as Spiderman and Tom arrives as both. Spiderman with his face exposed, so we actually got that, of course we get the trademark trait of Andrew Spidey always taking his mask off, but I'm starting to see it for people to trust him. The people recognize that & keep his identity a secret still to this day. Really well done on MCU part on this end.
The laugh at Ock's name isn't about the alliteration, it's about the "Octa" part. Jameson put it best in SM2: "Guy named Octavius winds up with eight limbs, what are the odds?"
Still a dumb joke for this movie to make. The MCU is so far from being above characters with dumb names
@Ultinuc But that's the thing, comic books have always been campy and cliché, and adaptations should be able to poke fun at that while being campy at the same time. I laughed, anyway. It would be giga cringe if the movie was poking fun at the comics and trying to be "cooler" or "edgier" than the comics, like a lot of CBMs from the early 2000s were. We're in a post-edge era now.
Oh my god the Portal references 16:10
Cave johnson for ya hahaha
@@lucaspedrotti3166combustible lemons
I wish Marvel did more movies like this one, I think this is the gold standard for a super hero movie. It's just perfect.
I'm glad you brought up that scene with Ned hugging Peter and MJ. Does anybody else think that moment with that trio of friends has very similar vibes to the friendship between Tobey's Peter, MJ, and Harry from the original Spider-Man trilogy? Even at the very end Harry considered them best friends. I hope that the three of them get reunited and Tobey Peter gets a chance to save Harry.
As a diehard spidey fan, I watched this in cinemas on midnight and it was amazing. Having the crowd react with me, knowing everyone around me was going through it too just made it that much better. I’d give ANYTHING to watch this again for the first time
2 things 1) Love the whole scene where Ned is talking to his Lola in tagalog (Feeling seen as a filipino) 2) Goin through grief, especially alone, is brutal
At 34:19, Tobey’s look at Tom basically said: “We must be better than this.”
The fact that they got Willem Defoe to do a Spider-Man movie way back in 2002 is mind blowing. He is so much better than any of us deserve and I was so, so glad to see him again
The fact that Tom’s Spidey nearly goes full John Walker on Goblin always highlight to me how not only that our heroes can be fallible and human but also that having good people around us are very important. Because if Tobey’s Spidey hadn’t stepped in and stopped Tom, he would have followed through and killed Goblin. Or how MJ with a glance got Tom Spidey to reconsider helping to stop the bad guys. So many of our heroes are heroic not just because of themselves but also because of the support and good influence of those around them. The fact that Tom Spidey succeeds because of the helpful support and good influence of those around him contrasts so much to how John Walker failed because no one was around stop him or was willing to give him guiding good influence. I often think of the contrast of how Tom Spidey grieving with MJ and Ned hugging him, while Walker was framed so alone in the shot of him on his knees in the warehouse with no one to comfort him in his grief. Heroes can rarely accomplish what they do without good support, and this movie shows how important that is, and I just love how supportive and affirmative and positive the Spideys are to each other. More kindness and empathy and understanding is what the world needs.
I love that when Andrew Spidey catches MJ she is looking up at all the falling debris while Spidey doesn't. He'd sense it if one was going to fall on them so he doesn't need to
24:30 hits so much harder because we were there to see it happen in his own movie
This was the Spiderman movie we deserved from Andrew. His moment with MJ brings the waterworks 10 times out of 10. Everything about that whole scene is cinematic perfection. I wanna bag on a certain "legendary" director for his poor take but instead I will, once again, praise Andrew Garfield and everything he does in this film.
Before No Way Home, Andrew and the Amazing series to a lessor extent, never really got the credit they deserved. So much of what makes Tom Holland feel fresh can trace its roots to Andrew. Both make the character feel "modern" while keeping the spirit of the original, Peter's intelligence is his other power, and they also both set up a larger story within each entry, and really do their best to make you enjoy the movie you're watching, while looking forward to the next one. With Amazing Spiderman, Andrew really gives it his all, and the movie comes closer to being "franchise worthy" than people really give it credit for. A bit of polish, and this really could have been an MCU rival that just doesn't exist right now.
35:42 Tom looks like a fan boy that finally got to meet his heroes
it feels like i dont see enough people talk about how good of an actor tom holland is :0 like those glares he did and his eyes when aunt may died and just the overall awkwardness of a teenager, hes so good
actually paused this video to make this comment. when andrew saves MJ was the saddest moment for me in the movie. to see him not fail, aftering failing so hard was F'n priceless. it's the same as when we see peter in endgame, he lands near tony and you can see the similar emotions running through tony, the relief of him realizing he saved the kid. the release of all that pent up stress and anguish. it's beatiful. i remember tearing up more at that than tony's death, my wife looked at me and all i said was "he saved the kid" because that's what tony wanted more than anything, to save the kid that died in his arms.
I went into this movie genuinely thinking TobeyMan and AndrewMan would appear in the final part of the final fight only, so to have them be in around half the film and be so integral to the plot was such a joy.
Willem DaFoe killed it and I’m so glad he got a second chance to play Goblin again, same with JK Simmons as J Jonah Jamison. Also missed win: When Doc Ock comes back, his glasses that are normally tinted black are now clear, indicating he's fully good.
surprised there wasn’t a win for peter using his nerdiness to beat strange in the mirror dimension. love when spidey movies show how smart he is
The best part (in my opinion) about Defoe's return as Goblin; was that a part of his contract to return, that he specifically requested from what I've heard, was that he got to do his own stunts. So that means that during the apartment brawl, that is actually Willem Defoe powerbombing Spider-Man through like three stories of building, and that makes me so happy.
Word of God: A few months after this film's release, Kevin Feige indicated that the events of this film were set into motion due to the season finale of Loki, which is when the multiverse came into existence in the first place.
That means that in universe, our universe didn't exist until the season finale of Loki.
Well Feige also says that the MCU is Earth 616 so maybe it's time to stop regarding the word of god
@@Ultinuc 🤣
@@garethhughes7430the universes exist, they just are unable to interact, when Kang dies, the timeline fragmentation allows for universes to interact therefore multiversal travel
33:57 I'm pretty sure Goblin was whistling at the punch that Peter just threw at him. I mean he literally put a hole in the metal. Glad you finally made a wins video on this amazing movie! Loved it!
Missed opportunity for a win somewhere at 19:46 fight when they used a move that’s in a mane Spider-Man games. The one where they are in air and Spider-Man shoots webs to the ground and uses himself and the opponent like slingshot against the ground. It didn’t show in this video but is in the movie
I remember when this movie came out and when Andrew came on screen everyone was screaming and clapping, it was amazing. So many memories
37:26 Don't make promises you can't keep. Yeah but those are the best kind.
Great video! The only two other wins I would’ve added are The moment the portal opened and we saw Andrew’s spidey for that first time. Just far enough away from the camera to make you question it then the moment he stepped forward and you saw his mask’s eyes, man I’ve never heard a roar like that in a cinema audience, it was unreal When he catches MJ, he’s learnt from his mistakes when he didn’t catch Gwen, he makes sure to catch her first then be the one that lands because he knows he’ll absorb it instead of trusting a web to catch her, a really lovely little bit of attention to detail
Andrew also caught MJ in the same way Toby saved Gwen in Spider-Man 3, which in of itself is a neat detail.
I love the small detail of him accelerating his push off the scaffold by propelling himself with his web. You can really tell that he had thought about what he could've/should've done countless times after Gwen's death.
I get goosebumps every time Doc Ock & Green Goblin are introduced in this film, no matter how many times I've seen the trailer. I grew up on Raimi's Spider-Man as my intro to the character & Dafoe/Molina are always a win!!!
25:37 no! NO! Garfield got the quote wrong! *There must also come* great responsibility! THERE MUST ALSO-
15:23 I love how I had this on in the background whilst I was speedrunning portal 2
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits But do you know who else deserves a big thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
That's... why they thanked them.
Crazy I go in the comments and see my full name lol
@@thecosmichiroshiI wonder if they'll thank him again when their cinematic universe dies because of him
24:54 I like how this scene implies that what happens right after the end of Amazing Spider-Man 2 ends up being... not so pretty...
11:42 that’s not why they’re laughing. It’s the fact that the guy named Otto Octavius has 8 limbs.
23:35 That was my experience as well, exactly. My mind had already been blown by this movie and when it became clear just how involved these guys were... I basically melted.
Have to reply to myself to say, I keep having to pause this video the way I did with the movie because of the intense emotions. Damn, I wish I could have seen this in theatres. Except I would have been a blubbering mess...
38:32 I think he’d still have mechanical irises simply because he was the one to invent, Tony just put it on a more big budget suit
Exactly, man. I don't understand why people keep saying "they're showing that his eyes no longer have the mechanical lenses" especially since you can clearly see that he still has the same exact mechanical lenses right there.
39:08 "this movie exists." aaaaand you just made me fall in love with your channel all over again. subtle call jab at cinemasins.
26:54 it took me 17 years to see that the man at the do was Bruce Campbell
Another win for when I saw Dafoe with that purple sweater next to aunt May. I was like, "I see what you did there", and as the movie progressed, he went further and further into the classic Goblin looks, and I loved it.
38:12 I especially love this suit bc with a close look at his new spider symbol. It takes cues from his Stark suit symbol, being made of a middle section with 2 lines on each side simulating 4 legs. BUT now his spider is a lot more organic and realistic like his Peter Parker brothers🥲
There was just the right amount of fanservice, of nostalgia and innovation in this movie. I really really enjoyed it. Probably one my favourite Marvel movie, heck probably one of my all time favourite movie.
This is the most fanservice I could ever want yet it still delivered more. I grew up with spiderman especially Tobey spiderman, it was like a love letter to all spiderman fans and I absolutely loved every second of this movie.
Andrew Garfield sells the grief so well that even watching the small snippet of it in this video made me tear up
38:06 Here’s the thing: Stephen erased everyone’s memories of Peter Parker. That means Happy and Ned might still know each other.
32:52 FUCK this still makes me tear up
The way that this movie provided a completion of character arc for Garfield's Spider-Man while also respecting both Tom and Tobey's respective characters was wonderful. I could watch those three Spider-Men have many more adventures.
From "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you." - Peter Parker, Captain America: Civil War to "With great power, there must come great responsibility." - Aunt May, Spider-Man: Far From Home