The Walking Dead Season 2 Retrospective: Slow Burn or Boring?
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When The Walking Dead season 2 hit our screens, some people were really satisfied seeing the personal character drama between our group and Hershals group, seeing these people grow from who they were in season 1 and how their time in the apocalypse changes their outlook and morality. Other people, thought that the farm era of the show was a slog to get through, that nothing of importance really happened until the end, and it’s a skippable season.
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I like to say this is my favorite season of the show, even though it was slow, the build up to Sophia’s reveal was plentiful and worth it. I loved Shane’s descent into madness, and how Rick took over his view in the later seasons, mirroring his once friend and enemy
Well said
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Shane would've beena good leader till they met neegan and then being aggressive like Shane probably would've gotten everyone killed
Season 1+2 will always be peak to me. I thought it was because of frank darabont but idk why the rest of the show just wasn’t it with some high points scattered around imo
@Adog00 same brother
This season aged beyond amazingly well.
It’s a miracle Carl survived the season and didn’t die like Sophia or Dale. He was just a kid and no one kept their eye on him.
He wasn’t just a kid. He was almost 12 years old. He should have known better and listened to the adults around him. What was Lori supposed to do, lock him in a tent? He ran away constantly after being told how dangerous it was lol I wish he had bit it a lot earlier than he did.
@@aaronmarshall5628 If he ran off the highway and got lost instead of Sophia and then was revealed in Hershel’s barn… just imagine the emotional toll that would take on Rick, Lori and Shane. It would break them. Sophia would be shot instead most likely. It would have been a crazy way they could have taken the show.
He didn’t keep his eye on him either
@@milkbottle4u Lori told Shane to stay away from them and to not go near her or Carl so it’s not surprising that Shane didn’t keep his eye on Carl. It’s all Lori’s fault everything at the farm went wrong!
@@Kingofportals I agree, I was just making a dumb joke about Carl losing his eye
I think season two is really the lynchpin for the whole series. It may not be everybody’s favorite season, but I do think it’s arguably the most important season.
Well said
Interesting concept. When I think about it being the linchpin, I agree. It made all the characters stronger after that.
The walking dead ended for me after season 1. It became a drama at that point. Fear the walking dead although slower. Is more about people in the apocolypse than walking dead. Atleast until the later seasons when they wiped the cast of fear for the walking method. Total blah. Though the king of the walking dead is season one of the walking dead game. Lee and Clementine had a far better story than anything in the tv shows.
@@geronimo5537brother the walking dead is a drama show. The games, the comic, the show. If you don't like it being a drama show why did you watch it
I think season 2 starts to become more artistic. Especially the fight scene in 18 Miles Out with the broken window. It's obviously no accident when you see Shane's reflection backing out as the walker is coming forward. Maybe I'm just simple but, that shot always impresses me.
foreshadowed his death and how everyone saw him as a monster
Great catch
@@IIIISaiExactly, he became a Walker in the end after Rick had to deal with him. Walker Shane is actually terrifying too, a literal monster.
18 miles out is one of if not my favorite TWD ep
The deaths that really hurt and changed the group: Otis, Sophia, Dale, and Shane. Otis caused Shane to become the villain and changed him for the worse while making everyone trust Shane less, Sophia caused them to lose hope and become darker and more brutal and willing to kill the living for the first time, Dale caused them to lose even more hope and to become at first more peaceful however that wouldn’t last, and Shane whose death caused Rick to take charge as the group’s leader. Season 2 deaths really changed the group and broke them.
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Shane wasn’t a villan
@@DeadX2 he wasn't a villian but the guy is just describing the effects of otis death , shane was losing his heart
@@DeadX2he turned into one by the end of the season.
@@IIIISai I think Dale and Sophia’s deaths proved to Shane in his mind that Rick could never protect Lori, Carl, or the group and that the only way they’d all be safe and survive would be if Rick was out of the picture, then things could be perfect again with Lori and Carl. Shane at that point thought that Rick wouldn’t be able to protect the group, he believed that Rick ruined everything at the Atlanta Camp and after because he considered him weak, turns out Shane was wrong and Rick was built to survive, Officer Friendly died when Rick put Sophia down and then killed Dave and Tony at the bar. Dale’s death was the final straw that inevitably made them long term lose their morality and become more like Shane. Shane was right however when it came to Rick’s bad decision making early on, how he went back for Merle for no real reason, how he placed Sophia in the marsh by herself to take out 2 Walkers, how he got Carl shot indirectly, the way that Rick refused to stop searching for Sophia when it was clear after multiple weeks that she was almost certainly dead, Rick refusing to do anything about the barn full of Walkers and even helping Hershel with it, also Rick protecting Randall of being killed even though he was a bad person and had a dangerous group. Shane was right in these ways, Rick and Lori also failed to watch over Carl which nearly got him killed many times and got Dale killed in the end. Shane and Rick were always meant to be at odds and that is what makes Shane the villain, he directly went against Rick and threatened to take over the group while losing his morality.
Season 2 has this really comforting feeling whenever I go back and rewatch it. It just feels chill to watch again lol hard to really describe
The farm was a truly great location that made u feel at home and cosy. I was devasted when the walkers destroyed it
it's cus of the cozy yeeha farm run by that jolly old Hershel feller
It’s like visiting old friends you know are gone in the present day
YEAH MAN i have this feeling too but i cant explain why)
Season 2 imo has some of the best character interaction and dialogue of the whole show. That might be what it is. I feel like this is the season where members of the group are actually...talking to each other, about how they feel. Like actual characters, with traits lmao
I’ve been laughing a lot at the “I know what kind of man you are” memes. Shoutout out to Dale. Also Shane’s best character this season
And the “stop acting like you know the way” meme
The conflict between Shane & Rick is the perpetual conflict between the head & the heart, between certainty & faith, between 2 kinds of strength & 2 kinds of leadership.
The second half of Season 2 was some of the shows best moments. I think the slowness of the first half was rough when watching on a week to week basis, but with it all out and available at once it has aged much better.
My first experience with The Walking Dead was watching it amidst a hurricane. I had no power, no contact w’ anybody and nothing to do. So I finally decided to watch the show after many years of putting it off. I stayed up all night when my internet would work and binge the shit out of this show. I enjoyed Season 1 and everything beyond but Season 2 just captured me. There’s something about the conflict of Rick and Shane which was just so captivating. I know people think it’s slow but I don’t think there will ever be any TWD content which tops this season. It just felt too real and human.
Yeah, it was the most human of all the seasons. This the one where some character choices really stirred up conflict in me. Like would I have put Otis down to make sure carl.lives and I get back, would I have went off and opened the barn, or the tension between Dale and Shane. Personally i hated Dale and he wasn't ever going to survive, he was too weak in my eyes crying over having to do whatever it takes to survive. Dale really irritated me in the whole of seasons 1 and 2. How Dale tried to control Andrea or to act like he was her dad annoyed me because I had someone try that bs when I was growing up and it didn't go well.
I watch season 1 the day it premiered, me and my dad watch all the way up until season 4 mid season finale - seasons 1 and 2 are so nostalgic for me and are the best walking dead seasons, the zombie era of like 2008 - 2012 is unmatched. And being a kid during this era had you imagination run wild. Good times ;(
I was convinced the zombie apocalypse was coming and I had a concrete plan to escape from my middle school if it happened. Sometimes during math class I actually wished the apocalypse would start 😂
@@thethriftytypewriter yep! I was in elementary school and I always wondered how me and my family would survive the zombie apocalypse, and with the bath salt incident in Miami in like 2012 me and my friends were convinced the zombie apocalypse was nigh 😂
The walking dead ended for me after season 1. It became a drama at that point. Fear the walking dead although slower. Is more about people in the apocolypse than walking dead. Atleast until the later seasons when they wiped the cast of fear for the walking method. Total blah. Though the king of the walking dead is season one of the walking dead game. Lee and Clementine had a far better story than anything in the tv shows.
"Beside The Dying Fire" is my favorite episode of the series.. Herschel: "This is my farm!" Rick: "Not any more!"
I actually fucking love season 1 and 2 because of the “slow burn” i think it’s extremely intriguing to see how these normal people go about traversing through something so unthinkable. Shanes true colors show, the group starts losing their humanity, Dale realizes what the world is coming too, Hershel still doesn’t know how bad things really are. I think its beautiful.
Exactly the season 3 really tied that change together, when they were first on the road and we saw how much they changed then coming across the prison at first was good but then when we really got into the nitty gritty of the horrors we would have to face with the governor and after that, and season 2 was the start of the character’s questioning their morals and really understanding the situation so even though it was “slow”, it was important season for the development of characters and the story.
season 2 aged like fine wine, ill take this character drama era of the show over the more action packed seasons like 6, 7, and 8
Leave season 6 out of this but yes same 😂
tbh for me personally ill take it over any of the new spin offs. The dialogue and the emotion in this season is incomparable
literally the most important season of the show. this is the foundation for the characters going forward for the rest of the series. killing shane literally shapes rick for the whole show. it’s one of his most important character defining moments. will forever love season 2, truly a masterpiece and one of the best.
I wasn't obsessed with the show UNTIL Sophia came out of that barn. After that, I was officially hooked.
It was one of the best seasons of the whole show. The complaints people usually throw at it are almost always regurgitations of complaints they heard elsewhere I've noticed. They never actually give reasons that show they actually watched it. Its usually just broad shit like "it's too slow and they never leave the farm". Like okay? What about the writing? The plot lines? The acting? The pay offs? The shit that actually matters! As far as those things go they nailed it on all fronts. People just love to bitch.
Season 1 and 2 are by far my favs
16:40 “Shane dirty there new 2011 Hyundai Tucson!!!!!😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 It’s funny as u say it and u see Shane’s face like this😮along with the music
Some people still think that season 2 was where the show began to decline. And while that might be true (Frank Darabont was fired after the first season after all, and I still hate that we never got that original full first episode of the fall of Atlanta that was originally planned. Would've been great) for some things, I still think Season 2 was really good for all the unforgettable moments we had in it mentioned here. It's always a blast to rewatch! :)
ahh if he was fired after season 1 it explains why s2 felt so different and lost the old vibe and characters being brain dead especially deaf to Shane's common sense
@@IIIISaiI think that the characters reacted very realistically to how real people might
Some seasons are just way better as a binge than a weekly episode watch. This is one of them.
As an adult now, I LOVE season 2. Shane is phenomenal and ricks transformation is so important for the story
Shane was actually willing to stay behind and let Otis escape and sacrifice himself. But Otis refused to do it and wouldn't leave Shane behind so Shane took it upon himself and said fine guess I'll make it out of here instead. No one ever brings this up
Because it has a dumb fanbase who either hates shane or worships him, finding those in the middle is rare , anyways the show emphasized the wrong things sometimes , shane offered to kill himself for otis, told andrea he never got that part down about moving on from murder (otis), shaved his dead, and forced rick to kill him not the other way around , planned to leave the group twice and that sad empty look after his final talk with lori , and the lone walker scene from episode 10, all these details together made shane look suicidal not someone who wants to take over the group, To be safe I use this narrative that amc was Goin for the suicidal route but didn't do the best job showcasing that because these details and moments are subtle or quick , but Shane's aggressive demeanor didn't give suicidal vibes more like Hardcore alpha who wanted control, he needed more scenes alone and some type flashback on how he became this way pre apocalypse, but they never gave this, most people paint shane as selfish, even some of his fans claim he was trying to kill rick, some say he was wrong in the way he handled things , none of the above are true there's no way other than what he did to deal with Incompetent individuals such as his group, anyways I wish they emphasized Shane's attempted sacrifice for otis, maybe make shane pray for forgiveness something
the 'surviving a good amount of time just to die to a drunk 80 year old man' bit was funny
Frank's concept of Season 2 was to give a prequel to what we had already seen so far. How the zombie outbreak even began, how the survivors met each other and one episode would've been dedicated to the undead soldier that we see in the very first episode inside an abandoned tank. AMC wasn't happy with the direction Frank wanted to go, abruptly fired him and replaced him with a new director, who gave us Season 2, 3 and i believe 4 aswell before also being fired.
You make alotta good points about shane, I'd never connected otis and his sudden decline. He thinks of himself as a bad guy from then on, so he does crazier stuff cause he doesn't mind otters seeing him as a bad guy, a great point.
11:00 one thing I like about this whole barn scene is how in the end Shane didn’t make the hard decision he made the easy decision to open the barn doors and shoot, however Rick made the tough decision to put down Sophia
Season 2 was the first I watched as it aired. We watched it in college as a group in a common room each week and I just remember how shocked and devastated we all were when Sophia came out of that barn and when Dale died. We were all screaming and crying and falling off the couches. It's a fond memory (despite the trauma!!!) so Season 2 will always hold a place in my heart. Thanks for this video!!
Shane seeing Rick bringing a zombie in with hershel when he's already going off and goes "what is that, WHAT IS THAT" while angrily running at them is so funny especially Rick's face like ah shit seeing him flying at them
14:38 Lori was in shock and was trying to understand Rick when he told her that he killed Shane. It wasn't until Rick said that Carl put Shane down when Lori got upset and couldn't look at him. I think a lot of people miss this and just assume Lori was mad that Rick killed Shane. She wasn't, she was mad that Carl had to be the one to put Shane down. She didn't want him to have to do that, and she doesn't lose it until Rick says this.
multiple things throughout the past 2 seasons showcased her deep affection for shane whether u believe platonic or not is up to u (even tho it was romantic), she was clearly broken that shane was dead , if shane died vs Carl was the one to shoot him what's worse , obviously the death , she literally never took care of Carl or he wouldn't of been out there in the first place he's the last thing on her mind, she cares about him otis situation showcased that obv , but let's not act like he's the first thing she thinks of, she indirectly killed shane , the exact words rick used to justify killing shane were the things lori whispered im his ears after the bar scene from episode 9, lori talked to shane in that same episode he died which set him off to begin with , Idk why i ranted but u just dismissed shane like lori wasn't planning to die old with him after the apocalypse started , she even admitted she was a horrible mother and wife in season 3, that's when she started to change before she died, if it was shane that killed rick I do think she would still back away but that's Shane's nature, she also did that in season 1 and shane just started kissing they made up quick , rick is a softer dude who needs affection and she just left him standing there, he wasn't a monster he just listened to her warnings but she looks at him with disgust
Shane had the most impact on TWD. If it wasn't for him and the lessons he inadvertently tought the group they wouldn't have survived as along as they did. I stand by that.
Season 2 was always my favorite. Glad now that the show is done people are realizing how incredible this season was. The peak of the show for sure.
Seasons 1 & 2 were the only two seasons I had available to me wayyy back in 2013. I had heard of TWD around that time after watching playthroughs of the first Telltale game on KZhead. Once I got ahold of the first two seasons, I used to binge watch them over and over. I never watched the show when it was airing at the time because it was on at like 10pm on Monday nights in NZ, which was a school night and I was only 14, and wasn't allowed up past 9pm lol. Not to mention the fact that the show had already progressed through two more seasons, so I wanted to wait until I was up to date, before watching it weekly (Spoiler alert: it wasn't until 2016 that I finally caught up and started watching it weekly, and I only managed to catch up by watching the other seasons through streaming them on pirate sites). Because I only had access to the first two seasons, they have remained my favourite seasons of the show. Don't get me wrong, I love the entire show (the good AND the "bad"), but the first two seasons are just sooo good, imo. P.S. I'll also only ever watch a show through binging the episodes now. I used to watch TWD episodes weekly from around season 7 onwards, and it sucked watching it that way. By the time the next week rolled around, I couldn't remember what had happened the week before. Never again. Now I wait until a season or two of a show is up, and then binge it all at once.
This is in my opinion not only one of the best seasons of The Walking Dead but one of the greatest seasons of television ever made. The characters and their stories alone were more entertaining than any zombie threat ever could be.
I didn't start watching the show until seasons 1-8 were on Netflix. I binged the show at the time and Season 2 was always my favorite.
I loved the slowness of the early seasons compared to the later seasons mainly due to the fact that I actually cared about these characters way more in the beginning.
One of the finest ever seasons of tv. The way every character came alive was superb - and the show would never have such 3D characters again, or so many of them
And the Sophia reveal was terrific
I imagine what would’ve happened if Shane went with Rick to the bar to get Hershel
would glass him 💀😭😭
Season 2 will always be my favorite season of TWD. It may not have as much action but those characters and their chemistry is unmatched. I just love the feel of how they are still figuring out this world and what the "rules" are. Unlike later seasons, they are still afraid of walkers and they feel like a real threat.
Might be my favorite season after season 1. The scene where Shane shoots Otis to escape the dead, highway horde, and Sopia's reveal where all incredible moments.
I still enjoy S2. It was still the onset of the apocalypse and tensions really arose for the group. There were some memorable moments like the walkers in the barn, Shane becoming more ruthless, Daryl’s development, etc. I think this season was a turning point for the group.
Definitely my favorite season, i love these retrospective series, thank you for making them ❤️
Season 2 has aged very well, the character drama and dialogue in this season is some of the best in the series. Shane's descent is easily a highlight of the season (a big reason why it's good his story ended here), and despite the first half of the season being a bit slower to get through, episodes 7-13 are all so peak in various different ways. Looking forward to the s3 video (actually am not as fond of it as many others seem to be, mostly because of 3B [its my least fave of the first three seasons😅], so I'm interested to here your thoughts)!
Agreed. Season 3 has good elements but has such a lackluster conclusion.
I disagree. Some of the storylines are great, but there’s sooo much filler in season 2. And the dialogue definitely dropped off from season 1
the thing with Shane's descent, is they made all the surrounding characters so stupid that Shane's death felt so preventable and gave people who liked shane some sour tastes obviously the soft mob that hate shane didn't feel that way but for those that liked shane everyone always mentioned how he coulda went with andrea or left , like the writer almost glued shane with a stupid group that wouldn't adopt or be open to his ways , sleeping with walkers and hostages, aware that merle escaped and just canceled his own departure plan he prepared I love Shane's arc but they didn't have to make everyone brain dead for it to work, and while I do think a shane rick moon confrontation was needed to me it shoulda ended in a rough brawl but not death , just close call, u can tell when Rick shot shane, shane regretted it, I would rather shane died with merle in season 3, obvious detail changes but this is better than what they did, with andreas weird death, govnor pullin up to the prison and only Killin that prison inmate , and then a season later hershel , so basically a mc that kept gushing over him and the old man (legend) who wanted mercy and the prisoner , that's all his mc bodies? I guess merle too, govnor to me is the best villian but damn if shane and merle died in some type of war with him I'd like that , more than merles dumb gunho plan andrea bein dumb until her last episode, etc..shane leaving the group would still change rick I don't think u have to kill homie to do that, regardless lori dies soon after so rick woulda changed anyways, rick and shane had multiple fights and arguments , what shane said stuck to rick u don't have to kill shane to make it stick him leaving is enough especially if that moon confrontation still happened
@@dilwitchspahlin4761 cap the dialog only improved, but yes it was some filler
@@IIIISai cmon bruh even the actors in the show admitted later that the writing quality went down after Frank Darabont got fired
Slow Burn or Boring? I'll tell you what it is. Great writing, Great acting, Great directing, Great character development, Great dialogue, Great characters, Great soundtrack, Great payoffs, Great conflict and Great storytelling. Mic drop.
you're right but you forgot to mention. Lazy settings, inconsistent character writing, dragged out drama, non threatening zombies, anticlimactic deaths besides Shane's or otis or Sophia, and a cliff hanger finale, this season was when the show was less about the life of an apocalypse survivor and more of a drama show , season 1 had u on your feat and lost, season 2 u felt safe and just focused on character drama , season 3 was a mix of both etc..., season 5 temporally had the group on the road Goin back to season 1 feels but that got lost quickly
Bro. How?! I just finished rewatching season two today!!
This is my personal favourite season, it’s a feel good season, I definitely enjoyed it more because I had the luxury of binge watching it, there was a lot of personal drama and we watched a lot of these characters develop, it really depends what genre you’re most interested in
Just finished watching episode 10. I have to say season 2 is some of the best Tv I’ve seen in a while
Just think that if it wasn't for Lori we could have had a Shane storyline later on where he was the one who was brought in by the saviors, not Morales and reunite with Rick and Daryl in either S7 or S8. That would've been hype.
if the writing was good , when rick confronts shane they drop their weapons , and Duke it out after the talk , and shane gives rick the choice of becoming the right leader or he leaves with andrea , obviously ends up leaving cuz rick is stubborn but when they find the prison rick develops anyways, michone finds them and shane doesn't trust her but hes out of choices as he has no supplies anyway , he eventually meets merle , I think they needa fix up all Andreas horrible season 3 writing lol, but I plan a death with shane andrea and merle mixed in with govnor , details don't matter cuz it's nit fanfiction central but shane was cut too short season 3 woulda been a better area
I loved this season as it contains my absolute favorite episode: Pretty Much Dead Already. S2e7. I can watch this episode a million times and still tear up when Sophia comes out and Carol breaks down into Daryl’s arms. 🥺 Oh, I’m sorry, what were you saying? 😂 anyway, love your take and that rating was very fair!
I'm rewatching Season 2 right now and I have to say it's not as dull as they say. There are so many iconic moments and a ton of character development for just about everybody. Finding Sophia in the barn, Shane's downfall, and the end of Nebraska are all top 10 TWD moments.
If you think the walking dead season 2 was boring you probably have the attention span of a toddler or just simply have bad taste lmao good video dawg !
I love this serious your doing, just sucks i have to wait a month each season lol but I get it after you mentioned how its hard to still come up with twd content when youve covered so much already
I’ve been waiting for the season 2 retrospective for a whole month
Definitely my favorite season of the show. The dynamic between Rick's group becoming hardened survivors while Hershel's group are more or less unaware of the world around them is something I have not seen replicated before with any other show, movie, or game.
I love that Hershel had the only no reload shotgun in the world. Dude was him.
Civilian is the best TWD song
Yes
The Last Pale Light>
I have a special love for Oates in the Water and The Mountain Goats’ track
For me season 2 was one of the best because yes its long winded but also shows growth for what was to become and also the one with a more realistic feel and did feel like a show about true survival and everything after was more an action show
I was 17 when I was watching this season, and I particularly remember Otis dying when I went on a university tour. Great series
S2 came out during my senior year of high school and I remember talking to my friends all week about the new episode and waiting for the next one. Oh man better days
I started watching the show in December 2022 and finished it in December 2023. I remember I watched the entire first season in one day but kinda slowed down a bit and it took me 2 weeks to finish S2 E2. But on Christmas day i was building something and put it on in the background in instantaneously got hooked again. I then finished Season 2 in 2 days. I LOVE seasons 1 - 5 but there is just something so special about the first 2 ESPECIALLY the 2nd season. I think it was due to the simplicity before it became a turf war every season. you can really see the difference in season 3 (no hate to season 3 its a top 4 season) but season 2 gets UNFAIRLY hated even though it damn well may be one of the finest seasons of tv ever created
the people that hate season 3 are the same people that consider season 7 and beyond good tv 💀
Hot take: season 7 actually was pretty decent in the episodes that Negan shows up at Alexandria (also the 2nd half of season 8 is kind of good)
There were certain things Shane said that made me think he and Lori already had a relationship. I think Lori was confiding in Shane regarding her issues with Rick. The opening scene of season 1, Shane said something to Rick and Rick says, "you sound like Lori".
I loved season 2, I have great memories to it, it was also the season my grandmother started watching along and made her fall in love with the two universe
I think the point at which I knew Daryl was going to be a great character was in the last episode of the first season, when Dr. Jenner told the group that the blast doors were designed to stop a bomb and the rest of group gives up trying to break through it. Except for Daryl, who picked up the fire axe and can be seen trying to break out of the door in the background up until the point they convince Jenner to open it finally. You need that guy on the squad
This has always been my favorite season. I loved the characters introduced (Maggie and Hershel) and the characters that grew and the the deaths (Dale and Shane) were great in my opinion. And I thought the writing and conflict made it amazing.
Its a good season, it still had that grounded horror feel from season one. Lots of great character work and some standout episodes The writing and pacing definitely had its fair share of issues, especially watching week to week at the time. But now being able to binge it improves it significantly So yeah pretty much agree with the video lol
i disagree , horror left the moment they found the barn but the dialog was good
@@IIIISaithe scene where Shane and Otis went to the school was still pretty scary, walkers ran and also screamed. Freaky.
@@billross9132 ohh that scene was scary af, ever since that scene horror left the show7, that's why i said the moment they went to the barn it stopped
@@IIIISai ye I hate how instead of making our characters naturally adapt to where walkers were no longer a big threat, they just made them stupid in s3, big missed opportunity
It's funny that I started rewatching TWD like 2 weeks ago. I watched your first video when I finished Season 1. And 2 days ago, when I finished Season 2, I looked for your channel to see the video of that season, and I couldn't find it. And then I realized you uploaded the first video like a month ago and that I would have to wait for the next one. It was so sad. But at the same time, an amazing coincidence that I started watching the show at the same time you are making this videos! I loved Season 1. It's a perfect piece of television. And Season 2 is also great. My only problem was that some deaths of characters felt a little off for me. Dale's death wasn't so impactful because It felt kind of cheap in it's execution. And also now I know that Jeffrey DeMunn asked to be killed because he wanted to get out of the show after AMC fired Frank Darabont. But I love how Dale's death affects the rest of the characters and all the moral dilemas that sorround this event. Dialogue this season is amazing and characters like Shane, Daryl and Hershel are on another level. Jon Bernthal perfomance is so amazing to watch. I thought is funny that characters like Danny (i think that was the name of the boy in the farm), and Patricia, are really in the background. And I felt they died just because the writers didn't know what to do with them. Sometimes I also felt like scenes repeated throughout the season. They would speak about something in one episode and in the next one they'd speak about the same thing with different words. My main issue was that sometimes I felt the show's script forced some situations out of thin air. Specially when the walkers arrive at the farm. I mean, the group was shooting guns and doing target practice for days, making hell of a noise, and no walker heard it. But one gunshot of Carl after the Shane vs Rick arc is completed, immediately attracts a huge horde, so they can destroy everything and force the group to escape. But overall, Rick and Shane's whole development as friends and then enemies is so f***ing great! I believe the first 3 episodes of this season are perfect TV. And the ending of the first half, with the opening of the barn, works on so many levels. It breaks Daryl and Carol, and also shows Rick that he really needs to change if he wants the group to survive. I love a line he says after this event. Something like: "I had them chasing a ghost in the woods". I think consequences of character's choices are really important and well developed in this season. Character development is top notch here. I watched the last 5 episodes in just one sitting because I was so intrigued. I liked Season 1 more because it was such an emotional rollercoaster. Every episode had me on the edge of my seat. It was such an adrenaline rush. I was so nervous and anxious watching it. Almost like terrified. I felt the same in the first 3 episodes of Season 2, but then it was something different. I liked both seasons very much. But I missed in Season 2 the adrenaline rush of not knowing and waiting for chaos to unfold. I started writing this comment just because I was happy of the coincidence of this videos coming out right when I started watching the show. And It got out of hand! Love you content man. I'm watching Season 3 and i'll be waiting for your next video. My score for this season is a 8/10 Thank you if you read this far!
that was the best analysis I ever read and you're correct , the show never has the season 1 vibe again , it stops bein a scary adventure and showing the struggles for basic survival needs and becomes a drama show in sets, the first 3 episodes of season 2 feel like season 1 whole the rest don't, and it's like every character stops developing but only shane does, Makin everyone besides daryl and hershel eventually , look stupid and shane a misunderstood man, I love shane , but him Not leaving and listening to lori when he asks her if he should stay twice and after all the arguments and fights and andrea offering to go with him was wack to me, they killed him off to kill him off because they didn't know where to go with him, a character who's cut throat and doesn't take bs and has common sense is too strong for a show that drags narratives by Makin characters choose stupid choices , you'll notice this alot in season 3 and the rest of the show, eventually the antagonists become brain dead too, rick overtime after Shane's death gains common sense like shane , but on multiple occasions will still make dumb calls, why , simple so the show works , if everyone was shane show ends quick because all conflicts have quick solutions, and as i said rick earlier besides his dumb calls, when he makes right calls like shane through the seasons, because his group members complain he'll submit, so even if u got a no bs character that's there way of Makin the plot happen , i ranted for no reason Lol, but yea season 2 was entertaining but Shane's death while cathartic was completely preventable and I bet if shane was alive longer they would somehow make him do something dumb for the plot to work, but it is rough to accept because as soon as shane dies now ricks common sense works , now they find a new location , like bruh
i can appreciate season 2 alot more these kinds of seasons that build character is the best and it really works well honestly showing how the group changed
I absolutely love your takes on all this Walking Dead stuff. You’re so good at breaking down all the character development. I never thought about Shane’s killing of Otis as his breaking point in that way, that he’s not able to process his grief about it and about himself. I’ve been obsessed with this show for over a decade and the fact that it’s over and there are still people out there picking it apart is just the best thing ever. Thanks for everything you do. These videos are awesome.
The glaze is crazy
For me this was one of the best seasons of the walking dead , this is what made me like twd , the character drama , shane and rick , and i think shane was actually a really really good character writing wise. Everything was as i wanted to be. The vibe of the farm was so fitting for me , the first episode in the highway , the conversations and arguments between rick and shane , it almost felt like it was a video game storyline for some reason.
lore for farm level in black ops 2 zombies 💀
Love these retrospectives of each season keep em up man .👍🏾
There is certainly an argument to be made that Rick saved Randall because he heard the screams of an injured and terrified young man and the Officer Friendly side had to help, but it still feels like a pretty contrived plotline. Especially right after he killed people for the first time. They knew how hard it was to survive and to leave Randall injured and alone out in the world after patching him up is very possibly a worse fate than a quick death.
it didn't make sense , the show just made ricks character all over the place for a prolonged drama , what sucks is even after this annoying season 2 rick finally agreed with shane , dale has a dumb death and rick turns 180 on his plan and doesn't kill Randall , and Carl who has been annoying the whole season comes right about when they are about to kill him , And above that the way rick saved Randall , hold fence pike in leg, surrounded my zombies , member of the crew that tried to kill him , rick even Savin him to begin with and not doing a quick death made 0 sense
@IIIISai So... In your opinion... A character has to make the right choices at all times... A character can't have conflicting views and actions... And a character can't have any true flaws at any point ever... Right... You should become a writer for Disney. They'd love you over there. Captain Marvel is getting another movie, go help with that. I know that was fairly rude, but it's to stress a point. Characters are allowed to make dumb decisions. That's what makes them not boring. Being flawed is GOOD. Rick is still clearly trying to hold on to his old values before the apocalypse. I'd argue that's probably fairly realistic. And him wanting to save Randall is obviously because he's a child. You know what police officers do after a firefight? They call ambulances and try to help the wounded, even if the wounded was shooting at them. So obviously he's still in that mindset. I know your view with film is probably "why would he do that, that's dumb, therefore, he's dumb." I'm sure you in your day to day make a LOT of dumb decisions. Just like me. Just like everyone else. Get off your high horse. Write your own story and characters. I can't wait to see how boring it is as the main protagonist overcomes every obstacle with ease.
@@animegopher bro I ain’t reading all that. I just said it’s understandable for Rick to abandon OR save Randall but I think (MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE IS THE END ALL BE ALL OF MEDIA ANALYSIS) the ensuing plotline comes across as stupid upon closer inspection. If you feel differently that’s okay but you don’t have to be a cunt about it.
@@michaelbuxton3659 Don't talk then if you can't read responses. Lmao. It's not a lot. I'm sure you have that Gen z brain rot though, so I understand.
@@michaelbuxton3659 Don't respond if you can't read something more than 100 words. Lmao. Looking silly.
I remember when I was in high school it was right after I finished watching breaking bad when the show officially ended in 2013 is when I finally picked up watching The Walking Dead and I binge watched the first couple seasons and quickly caught up to win. Governor was making his reappearance basically in the series and I have not stopped watching the show live every time a brand new episode has aired since
I love your in-depth thorough analysis!!
Really enjoyed this video, keen for the rest!
Season 2 Characters: Rick Glenn Andrea Shane Lori Carl Dale Daryl T-Dog Carol Sophia Hershel Otis Maggie Beth Patricia Jimmy Randall
I was also 11 watching this season waiting for the zombie scenes to pop up on the screen😂 I for sure overlooked all the character arcs
I haven't seen TWD and don't plan on it since it's so long, so I'm watching all these videos and it's actually kind of making me want to watch it. I assumed it was a regular, basic zombie show. I might watch the main series and then The Ones Who Live. Thanks for the great content!
I’d certainly give it a shot. It’s not the typical zombie apocalypse show. It’s a drama about how people deal with the apocalypse and if you view it that way you’ll enjoy it so much more.
I personally LOVE this season. The character development is so good especially with Rick. You can see him slowly become this righteous, good guy he was in season 1 to the person who is just going to do whatever he has to do to keep his group safe. As the show progresses to later seasons, Rick literally becomes Shane and maybe even worse than Shane.
These are great. Really hope you do it for all the seasons.
That’s the plan
@@thethriftytypewriter Nice.
i just started watching your videos a couple weeks ago and i am really loving twd content (and your other videos ofc!) i have no way to watch twd right now, ive tried so many times
I’ve been waiting for this month’s TWD retrospective! You got it out just in time to stay on your track! Great job!
Those situations in the early seasons (and the relationships between the survivors after the prison), are the moments i think of when i say "i miss The Walking Dead". Once the originals died one by one it all just felt so empty...
Giga Glenn! 😂 Great job man looking forward to the rest of these
Grab your popcorn folks! The premiere is starting shortly 😮🍿
One of my favorite seasons. Great review and video! 🤙🏻
Amazing video, so excited for the season 3 retrospective
"Now that I'm over the age of 13..." Happy 14th birthday to you sir. 🥳 I always loved this season. Delicious tension.
Thrifty has been getting consistent now, great video!
Love these quality breakdowns, please keep it up
Awesome so glad ur doing this series I thought u weren’t gonna stick with it hell ya keep it up
I’m never gonna stop doing TWD. I just like doing other stuff too 😁
I love your walking dead season retrospectives ❤
this was my fav because it takes its time making the build up all the more impactful
I LOVE season 2! Was the first season I watched live on air and watched it several more times with friends I was trying to put onto the show. Mid season finale and the last 2 eps of s2 are some of my favorite TWD episodes ever
This is by far my favorite season. Jon Bernthal ate up every scene he was in and played Shane to perfection. It progressed and pushed the characters to cool places for what would become a super strong season in 3.
This was one of my favorite seasons.Thanks for the review!
I wish i found your channel a year later, that way i could watch all the retrospectives😭
shane makes this season some of the best stuf from the whole season. I remember when i was maybe 8 the first thing i ever saw was the walker in the rv. Shit gave me nightmares so bad. I love this show though
Imo, season 2 gets better the more times you rewatch it. I will say the first couple episodes with the whole looking for Sophia thing still is slow and not that interesting, at least to me, but overall the season is top notch and really fleshes out what you're getting with the characters and series going forward as a whole
maybe but the arguments just get annoying
Great video and totally agree with the binge watching take.