Your Feelings Can Betray Your Thoughts
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Just finished a 10 mile run again after my night shift. Driving home now at 1am listening to a new Jocko video. Discipline equals freedom.
I just got done doing a 4 mile ruck around the house and up and down my basement stairs, not ideal but exercise is exercise!
@@ericsfishingadventures4433stay strong and be proud of yourself brother
Hang on, if you work the night shift, why are you going home at 1am? Im confused
Started my 50 mile bathtub swim...didnt make it rang the bell 20 miles out...dnq
you are a liar
“Never let your ego get so close to your position, so that when your position goes, your ego goes with it” Colin Powell.
Colin Powell is not someone to be admired. And your ego is literally the engine within your personality that produces insecurity, shame, pride, narcissism, etc. Your ego is not your friend, it's the thing that's holding you back from greatness.
You are not you’re thoughts that’s very important to me when I’m struggling. And I try to not judge my feelings, just observe them. So that’s very helpful for me.
Solid advice on not confusing thoughts with feelings, that's a solid key for decision-making
Words are just words until you put them into action
Same for ideas
Good stuff. It's also worth pointing out that it can be difficult to explain things to someone who doesn't have the same values and morals. In such situations, that other person can gaslight via blaming our "emotions" on the confusion rather than simply saying, "I don't have those same values and morals."
Echo goes deep on this one too, not just Jocko. Newfound respect for the perspective of Echo.
Jocko always spitting the 🔥
Look it isn't our emotions - it's how we deal with our emotions. Jesus Himself said Ephesians 4:6 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath... feel that anger but sin not. Look at your anger and look at it with Him. So notice your feelings - feel all your emotions.... God made you with all these emotions so through them you are drawn to Him. And with Him He can guide you through the fire. We are made in His image - emotions connect us to Him. And He loves you so I encourage you to take a moment and bring it to Him - all the notes journals - bring it all to Him and listen for that small still voice of His - grace and strength and wisdom ❤ and for sure get good godly authentic people in your fellowship
Uh….. that was Saint Paul, not Jesus. The quotes of Jesus are in the Gospels, for the most part. Saint Paul wrote the majority of texts in the New Testament.
Sorry I'll qualify....mark 3:5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
@@jumpmasterpadre9335 sorry I think I had a scripture in there but it didn't paste.... Have mercy on your sister in Christ... I added it below it's mark 3:5 But there's a few other instances we see Jesus have emotions but He sinned not.
always come to jocko when feeling bad
You have to feel out every situation using as much logic as you can bring. Comes with experience. Like the classes where you train the officers not to be so triggered. Takes wisdom and experience to train that kind of logic beyond feeling. Thank you for the work you do, Jaco ✌️🤟🖖
This is just amazing thank you for doing what you are doing. STAY DISCIPLINED
Feelings are subjective. Logical thoughts are a solid foundation seeing the world for what it is
Its a solid foundation of mostly useless practices that fail to support basic human needs
Imo, the feeling guides our thoughts and actions. People like to feel like they are in control. And their "thoughts" help justify how they feel. This leads to an assumption that a thought or principle can be a truth or north star that can always guide ourselves and others in our lives. But, maybe, the thoughts are just tools. And we should be aware of how our subconscious is pushing and pulling our thoughts. How many veterans commit suicide because they can't deal with their feelings? We all know the reasoning. But, for some reason, we can't just accept it like a robot. Love for your family. Duty to your country. Pride in your values. Honor, compassion, and, even, wisdom... Are things... We can accept and implement because we know it feels right. What is confusion? Is it really that we don't know what to THINK? Or we don't know what to FEEL? A thought experiment to chew on. Sometimes, we have to override our feelings to take actions or make plans. We go into a combat situation even though we are afraid. Or, maybe, to not jump to conclusions of a partner cheating. And, even if the partner is cheating, we can choose to ignore some feelings to try to get to a better resolution. How many listeners feel loyalty, inspiration, and a sense of communal belonging? And doesn't that help them, ultimately, go on to think? We... Are animals. Blessed with consciousness and cognition. But... I think we make the assumption that we are in control more than we are. And... It doesn't help that we can try to present truths of our own incomplete thoughts. Because we want to feel right. To feel secure. It's a tricky game. I apologize for the rant. I always like to think of this as the lying game. Because we are all lying to ourselves. It's a tricky game. What is truth when it could cost us power? What are thoughts when, usually, it will be more for convenience? Sorry for the rant. I don't think that I did well.
I think you did it better than I could yet, I feel that truth is used when it is convenient in mind games, but truth is everything no matter the cost no matter the outcome when we live by feeling, anyway happy to connect 🙏
Yeah man I agree. Ask someone who is "logical" about how they feel about something that is illogical to them and there's your answer. Logic and feelings are intertwined. Whether you prioritize one or the other depends on what you value in light of the circumstances you're in.
this is a horrible comment and I hope you delete it one day soon
Proper for me Sir. Thank you teacher.
Thank you for this sir.
Thank you for the information and the thoughts 🙏 put into this!
I love it! This is something i have observed in my personal life, makes me want to read Thomas S. Great job in putting this together
Loved the arrow to Greg 😂 And this video! Subscribed for your tips but I was checking your older videos and I loved this one so much, it helps a lot
Jocko, I've been trying to have and explain objective conversations about feelings and the difference between Reacting because of them and stepping back from them to Respond by Choice logically Rather than almost instinctually! All it's ever gotten me was attitudes and arguments in return! I'd Love to have an actual in depth discussion with just about anyone that grasps this concept fairly well!
Exactly. "Stay away from politics and any form of media. They don't care about the lives they destroy. Its just about money".
Thanks Jocko and Echo. I have found myself trying to rationalize my feelings as an attempt to get a grip on why I am the way I am and do what I do. I beleive the answer is just start doing what you know is right for yourself. We are the sum of all parts
What a good response to this overall, friend! I appreciate this a lot 😊
Best comment.you are beatiful
Great information. Will apply immediately.
Steering yourself through life using "thinking" sets you on a path where you can take responsibility for your actions and learn from them, positive or negative. Steering yourself though life using "feelings" leaves you reliant and at the mercy of the actions of others, and you don't learn to take responsibility for yourself. One makes you a burden on others. One does not.
Where do your thoughts generate from? Do you control what thoughts enter your head or not? I think it's important to understand that thoughts and feelings both just pop up on their own. Logical action alone only gets you so far, as does Emotional action, and because both are useful we evolved with both faculties.
@@PuzzlesocksYou're right, but don't expect 95% of this comment section to agree. "Thoughts good/feelings bad" has never been Jocko's point or his message, including in this video.
@@Lucysmom26 It's ok if they don't agree. I've never minded being "part of the out group". On this subject though, I think most people still have this idea that they are in essence a little man sitting inside the head controlling the body. Mainly because it's an easier image than the reality and gives you the illusion of control. Where I personally disagree with Jocko is that I don't believe in any separation between thoughts and feelings. As far as I can tell they are the same thing unless we are specifically calling "thoughts" the translation of input into symbols.
Ooh you think yourself to be independent because your not attached to people but attached to the environment.i am a feeler dominant and not dependent on others,how about that,feelings does not make someone dependent or weak.on contrary,thinkers rely on already made existent structure,its called being traditionak
Don't fall be the overly stoic person that 'Feelings' are bad.. feelings are attached to intuition.. but that's very different from feelings based on unfounded, undealt with, issues. But, as alluded to here, people are led by their feelings (and thus opinions) conflating then with facts. Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 😊
I don’t think feelings are bad at all and I don’t think that is the message here. It’s showing how to use both feelings and logic to work together towards self awareness and growth despite all of the crazy shit that you can find on the internet.
I’ve never heard a stoic say feelings are bad
“Two different tide charts” nough said ✨
Jocko & Echo
Amazing thank you
Logic is a result of disciplined feelings really. Sometimes the logical thing isn’t the right thing and it’s import to be able to decipher the difference. Logic is derived from human emotional interaction essentially. Balance is power 👍
Good one brother
You won’t always like the truth. Doesn’t mean you can’t still accept it
A society too heavily reliant on feelings. Happy to be a logical party. Doesn't mean I don't have feelings, I just don't let them govern the ship.
I wish you guys would have touched on how feelings are appropriate for some situations. Yes, it’s great to discern when they are appropriate and when they are in control of you. Feelings are powerful and they can lead to powerful action, they can also lead to stupidity. The point I’m trying to make is that it’s more important to know those feelings are there and to channel them into exactly where they are meant to go. If you are disappointed in your team or an individual, yes, separate those feelings and give yourself clarity by channeling it elsewhere. Then you can explain the issue and the solution with clarity. Feelings can be used for your own self development and it’s good for the long run.
Feelings create thoughts. Thoughts drive behavior. Behavior creates circumstance. Understanding the underlying feelings beneath the thoughts equals control over one’s circumstances
Not quite right.
Emotional intelligence is key
Well, a feeling is a thought (that you believe to be true). The only difference between a "thought" and a "feeling", is the believing part. Actually feelings are very logic. You first logically understand what it means, and only then you can have the emotional response.
Jocko has that red green and black Marathon Terminal art for his intro and outro.
Feelings occur IN THE BODY; thoughts occur IN THE HEAD. The fact that this is confusing, even here, is illustrative of many of our cultural problems.
We look at life at 2 fifferent perspectives
@@DamyanTenev So your thoughts occur in your body, and your feelings in your head? O.k.
Jacko this beef we have had has gone on long enough. I'm waiting patiently for the mature and honest man you portray yourself as to contact me and squash this beef. Wether you do or don't is irrelevant to the big picture as far as I'm concerned however I have made valid attempt so I have no problem holding my head high regardless of what happens! Shalom!
Sir Jocko, if you see this I have a question. If the U.S. asked for you to go on a life threatening mission with a Seal team now or in the future, would you go?
Although Jocko neglects to mention intuition.. which could be tied to the same side as emotion and yet knows more than you... If one path feels wrong... Yet you can't place it you just have a feeling...you shouldn't ignore it the person is a sound rational person.. the immaterium is more real than the real world... I've seen it you have to combine control . Of emotion.. with cunning of logical yet not so disconnected that you can't tap into the messages that are true yet unexplainable... Imagine a emotionally intelligent... At will psychopathic psychic lol all three exist... To different degrees
I always feel my feelings. Usually anger. I realize it. And find the logic. Every day. Calmly say what needs to be done or changed or decided. I get it. Anyone can talk to me. And trust my decisions. I control my emotions. Always right so far
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Echo out there eating "Salty Cake" 😂🤣😂🤣😂
We need to get Jocko casted as an Astartes in the upcoming 40K show, he is the personification of an Astartes.
Check out Iain Mcghillcrest work on brain hemispherical differentiation. He describes how feelings affect the left brain vs the right brain and how the left brain tries to take control of your logic
I think this is a good topic t to discuss with Jordan Peterson
I think so too.
Let's go way back and borrow some philosophy from Aristotle. The Greek philosopher, who made significant contributions to many areas of human knowledge, laid out four levels of happiness: Laetus, felix, beatitudo and sublime beatitudo. Rational activity conducted in accordance with virtue. Examinations of conscience, trying to root out our faults, focus goals toward virtue. This will be the closest to "happiness" without Faith, Hope and Agape Love in the spiritual life where the essence is sacrificing your will to God's will in every aspect of your life. Ordinary day to day done with His extraordinary love where True Joy is lived.
Spot on ! It is so frustrating when my husband responds to me with....I don't think about things like that. When answering about things that pertain to things that effect one of us or our life ! It is frightening how little thinking he and many other people actually think about today! 🤔
Always a good listen. Thoughts and emotions are great servants, but bad masters. Both have their purposes and whatnot. However too much, or too little of either will truly change your journey. All this overuse of either is a claring symptom of something However. Oh well....
Top G has been right this whole time. emotions are a beatiful thing but you can not let them dictate what you do and how you act. you have to be who you want to be regardless of how you feel
The most breakthrous and inovations in any feeld are made by going into "extremes" not by sitting in "balanced" state
Any response to the anti hero podcast? They did a video on operation red wings and brought up you and chris kyle.
Thomas Sowell is a National Treasure. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have more exposure.
He's a black guy that doesn't fit the libby narrative. Plain and simple.. But yes, truly a national treasure. Dude is wicked smart.
Good. Feeling Logical. Data = Facts? Facts = Logical? Complexity loses logic and emotions emerge feeling ego. Feelings = Personal Attached Thoughts = impersonal Detached Echo that? Thoughts + Feeling together is more powerful overall but mediating between the two is the disciplined artistry of humans being
To detach is also to attach
Explain the layers in Echo's shirt.
Logic seems cold , void of feelings, which is human, such as anger, sadness, sympathy, happiness, accomplishment, so many other emotions (feelings), where logic is calculated . Be safe. New to your podcast, enjoy listening.
Logic is learned...?
Deductive reasoning can be flawed..
Is instinct logic or emotion / reflex
Logic seems to require time, can that time element ,were the cold calculatons are just another human emotion / feeling. Anyway. Time to cut the grass , sun is out Stay safe. Enjoy the podcast.
Can the time element of logic be illimimated
Most people go on their gut and our gut is usually wrong.
Some people are connected to their brain/mind.For them Rational,clear,descriptive thoughts are trusted
Some people are connected to tgeir heart,for them feelings are trusted
Some people are connected to their body,for them bodily sensations/gut feelings are trusted.
Who is wrong and who is wright?
Warrior philosopher. Dig it. Thanks for the soulful content.
Getting into the realm of the jedi now. "Your feelings betray you....."
I made a mistake not raising and perhaps not treating and listening to a key employee to my business. Now she was pouched by another company. My initial reaction was as disdain for that employee. Now I’m thinking it’s always my fault. Since I’m the boss. Even when it’s not. Not the employees. It’s a hard pill to swallow. Relationships with a woman. Same thing.
the rules of feelings, or emo - perspective 1. they tend to come, or go, or be as useful a a beer gone soft, however they're not consistent, or what appeals to men 2. they're usually relative, or not the law, truth, or prayer 3. perhaps for therapy, works of culture, or art they're useful, or could serve the nation, and they also have their place, it's just that it tends to be counter productive, or less for therapy, or crying circles, perhaps for making art emotions are iffy, or also to learn from, think perhaps for therapy, art, or PTSD it's important to know emotions, or where one could take of uses 4. that people are more than their emotions, or it's important to train the body, mind, service, or also freedom, truth, or wisdom has almost nothing to do with feelings, or when one practices all those things one realizes the importance, or ' relative ' value of emotions, or the inner world of chaos, wants, pettiness, or occasionally to suicide, or what the ' feeling ' stuff wants, or usually devolves, or cares to
People make mistakes in trusting three thoughts, feelings and imagination. Discern through the virtues there's about 64 virtues stemming from the 4 cardinal virtues.
Not feelings. It's my intuition
Some people have it and some people don’t. The one who do have it understand this comment.
Feelings are a compass, they will tell you * something might be wrong But ! You have to investigate the situation to understand where it’s coming from and how you might be wrong. Otherwise you are no better than a child, however you phrase it.
Yes they do I started a journey into the mind which led to the spiritual.. an I've found an easy method.. adopt a Machiavellian mindset... Don't go into the Mephistophelian it's too destructive just as good at removing fear and external control.. but Machiavelli works best... If the other person is not willing die over a sandwich.. an you become the being that decides you don't care about the sandwich you want his soul.. his still beating heart regardless of the outcome few people can stand a commitment that is beyond the material. Tyson did the shift from machi to mephisto an it caused him trouble but you did not see fear or pleading or weakness at any point.. if your opponent enters the ring for a belt.. think that's fine..that's sprinkles and I don't have a sweet tooth... I came here to see the life leaves your eyes.. I'll send the belt to your widow as a token of your sacrifice to the blood god. I've used since I was a homeless child.. even grown men rarely prefer to die over nothing against an opponent they could over power.. but may lose and eye.. an if they failed.. id cut their face off while they were still alive and show them how I could wear it better.. fear is an illusion and if the man your facing has a weakness anything in this world he cares for more than a singular goal you can destroy him break him beyond repair.. money.. family... Reputation.. all of it is a weakness to exploit. Adopt that mindset an it's hard to be beaten and if you do lose then applaud them for a game well played. If you have to ability to stop feeling.. it's a powerful strength if uses with cunning
😍 Lol, it is the foods you eat too.. sushi, herbs..and then its gone and yes although its break up as he is turned on and then turned off.. yup. Then wake up..then not enough wake up, and hes still detoxing everything too. 💎 I still think It's not as bad erectile dysfunction, and bipolar.
"Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions." - Elizabeth Gilbert -
Can’t convince them of it, tried and tried to tell them to challenge their thoughts and it always comes back to feelings instead of logic and reason, actions and consequences…….im just done talking at this point til someone really wants to know. The question is, is this thought helping me or hurting.
my feelings govern how i act all the time because my values are crossed i feel or not met or visa versa . makes me feel a certain way . no thinking involved . my values are my values the thinking part comes next . i dont doubt my feelings cause thats my values . but i’ll definitely think and strategise my way around my emotions so my values are upheld so i feel good again . my values come 1st usually then the tribe unless its not important or trivial then ill go along with the tribe . and i feel good doing that . i do actually value making others feel comfortable so im not a selfish person . i just know what i want , like and dislike . And it might not be logical . but what artist is logical all the time
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I have a difficult time explaining my emotions to my wife. Maybe I don't want to talk about my emotions it's uncomfortable.
You're going to take the fight to them huh
I dont understand... you can feel before you think? is this why im a bit neurotic, distant and have trouble connecting with people unless they are on the same mental frequency as me?
Weird how I can make an instant correct action without thought , but given two minutes/months/years , I can screw everything up with the thinking.
Jocko put two tea bags in one cup
Bro looks like Jack Krauser
Hey Jocko EC A lot of people are confused. For some agencies that is the plan. Sorry if I confuse you. Welcome to my world. Prospecting is different than sorting. It looks good in the field but clean it up ... sfat If you got better "Take me out coach." You are welcome to stand here in the channel with me. I know my place - call it a promise. irony is not lost on me
Thanks scientists for letting us know the tides
The Farmer's Almanac is still a thing.
What about when you feel your woman is not worthy of your attention, or perhaps cheating on you? Feelings are often a guide to what you should think about. Jocko is over simplifying the difference on this one.
FEELINGS AREN'T FACTS...They are emotional thought...
It’s called stinkin thinkin..
"Tide Chart" - Americans are seeing the impact of leaders that constantly spew things that are just not Almanac worthy. Facts are given that are not close to the truth and we continue to lose half our country. Good topic on when you leader puts themselves above the one thing they are hired to protect. In this case - Democracy.
Upload at 3.55 am 😂
Its 9.55 am somewhere, nice material for a 15 minute midday break...
The Marine Corps efficiently removed my feelings.....also I'm divorced 3x bc I am to... as they say. Detached 😂
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what you want to cultivate to be a better leader Mr. John is the ultimate perspective, or even what the saints could learn from, or the salvation of all souls, or all worlds, or all suffering -- there's an invisible order, or ' progress ' to everything, and even you don't decide that, or created the world -- no one is expendable, and not even one person could be replaced, there's no price on civilians, or workers, and everyone deserves a home, or roof -- life is petty, meaningless, or ends in the grave, or what could learn from that, or that not to take things too seriously, or even wars, or that all things must rest, or learn from the coffin -- what we do is important, however ultimately doesn't matter, or the regimes, or belief we fight for usually dies, or is gone the pages of history the lesson for all warriors, also their captains -- be free, tomorrow could be gone -- we're ultimately pawns, all of us, or to a grand scheme, or powers we can't see, or perhaps understand -- the real victory is to work for life, security, or the ' after ' a war, or what doesn't serve the coffins, or temporary glory of battle -- have a small place for yourself, or where you care, or what you're supposed to have, don't forget everything to rank, or service, or that if everyone else is important, so are you, however the question how much
Jocko thinks feelings if he needs to
There is that Pay attention. It may be purposeful. Trust your gut. Key scratch all the way down to the undercoat. That is what makes us people. I hear you. Things happen so other num nuts can pick it up. Yes tools. no shit yes and no Just trying get along. If you want smack down - good just ask. We sense that. That is good. whacky -- yup reaching It comes after the fact. It makes me feel like I am slow. save frequently save often.
Emotions lack logic. They’re feelings, not rational. They get in the way of clear decision making.
Emotions are PRE-cognitive logic,they are wholistic perceptions about a situation
Rationale...... Logic and reason..... We are biochemical electromagnetic entities with FEELINGS.
Feeling also reason
Keep in mind that your thoughts are not always your own. Thoughts can be inserted in many ways
Can you give an example of thoughts you intentionally have without some form of outside stimulation?
@@Puzzlesocks Voice to Skull technology, manipulation though media advertisement, plus other more esoteric methods can put thoughts into peoples heads.
@@Ninja9JKD Those are examples of thoughts created by outside stimulation. I was more curious about these thoughts you believe that you intentionally have.
@@Puzzlesocks Interesting, not sure that I can. What doesn't presently come from an outside source seems to come from the past or as a programmed reaction. Actual I prefer not to think, it's better to observe and still the mind.
@@Ninja9JKD Agreed. I was just curious of your opinion, thanks for indulging me! I completely agree with your initial sentiment.
Different tide charts ... different media?
Title Purpose: Scope: Criteria: Body: Conclusion: Appendix The test was in fact to - pass through entity yup - Dad did that - they use to train on debate. I got a line forming. You know I ♥you. I am so sorry if I offend Yes I do. It was fun for lots of reasons. Yes Stop Shhh I paws you. blah blah blah
I asked a millennial if they knew what the farmers almanac was? They were like whats that an app......smh!....lol
true we are products or our environment and our (how we grew) the twig is bent, so the tree grows. Earth to Spock. filter on the run I am not good at that it all goes dark sure bias the way it is organized pob - survey boundaries yes. yes I can lie I try very hard to be honest it is difficult. I can get into grace but it is near impossible to stay there. We live in the real world. There you go. There is something else going on.
Scribing - logging - there is more to it than that. Please continue with the tongue thrashing. I have heard leacture from some of the best does it sink in. We will see - not a problem if we are all on different frequency. The thing I got was pass through entity - something else about re-entry there are parallels. Yea, I got out of step at the parade. Shit happens. Rise - In my experience being "tapped" is just more work. Do the talky talk.
Trust the science really means trust the scientist, or worse, trust the persons interpretation of the scientists interpretation of the data.
Where's the fun in living like Spock from Star Trek?
Spock also have emotions,but he cant process the,like this guy
Politics and religion are pure emotion fueled endeavors
There is a mistake in the name. Not CAN... ALWAYS betray.
How big is this guys arms really?
i dont have feelings