NEVS Emily GT: SAAB’s Secret EV With 600 Mile Range | Top Gear

2024 ж. 18 Мам.
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Meet Emily, the secret electric GT developed in just 10 months by Saab engineers.
The Emily GT has the potential to revolutionise the way we design vehicles. Why? Because it has four electric motors housed within each of its 18-inch wheels. Together, they produce 424bhp, powered by a whopping 174kWh battery, which means it should be capable of over 600 miles on a single charge.
The company behind the in-wheel motors, Protean Electric, claims they offer numerous benefits over conventional EV designs. So, we sent Top Gear Magazine’s Tom Ford to see what all the fuss is about.
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00:00 Intro
00:42 The NEVS Emily GT
02:58 Interior
03:48 How the motors work
07:24 Applications
09:37 Handling
10:53 Conclusion
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  • Bring it back as a SAAB EV and I would buy one. I miss SAAB quite a bit and this would be a great way to bring them back to the world.

    @zollotech@zollotech10 ай бұрын
    • It’s a SAAB other than the badge. You’d have my full respect if you replace the badge. It would be a decent business opportunity to make a easy to install badge kit.

      @markm0000@markm000010 ай бұрын
    • You heard the man: Saab had trouble, the Chinese company that bought them had troubles, and now whoever the new owners are pushed this out the door in less than a year. What could possibly go wrong?

      @viscountslappy5085@viscountslappy508510 ай бұрын
    • agreed

      @GrockleTD@GrockleTD10 ай бұрын
    • @@viscountslappy5085 it's NEVS, as written in the video title, in case you don't read

      @agps4418@agps441810 ай бұрын
    • ​@@viscountslappy5085not new owners, just engineers doing engineering. This cars is likely made with love and not for corporate reasons.

      @GamingTrivia1113@GamingTrivia111310 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely beautiful car. Please brand it as SAAB with the ignition key at the SAAB position.

    @rubbermoetroken@rubbermoetroken10 ай бұрын
    • true

      @Slaithyte@Slaithyte10 ай бұрын
    • I was just saying that. It's a no brainer to keep it as SAAB.

      @robertnicholls9917@robertnicholls991710 ай бұрын
    • We just need Saab back

      @Skclassified@Skclassified10 ай бұрын
    • Yes sir to that

      @allensaunders449@allensaunders44910 ай бұрын
    • SAAB, the military supplier that owns the rights to the name, is not allowing it - hence, NEVS.

      @TheBTG88@TheBTG8810 ай бұрын
  • I did some work for NEVS on their 9-3 based EV taxi for China. Great bunch of guys. Working REALLY hard with little resource. I am also a HUGE Saab fan, so i wish them all the best

    @Rich77UK@Rich77UK10 ай бұрын
    • Did they end up releasing the 9-3 ev In china?

      @PH-kl5qq@PH-kl5qq7 ай бұрын
    • @@PH-kl5qqThose vehicles never went on sale. Lots of the original Saab engineers went to CEVT and works for geely and volvo now.

      @xiaoranzuo4623@xiaoranzuo46233 ай бұрын
  • Imagine being able to retrofit these wheels on your old Saab. NEVS would revolutionize the 2nd hand Saab market overnight and solve it's own recycling issue as a brand. I couldn't imagine anything more in the spirit of Saab like that.

    @Amayii@Amayii6 ай бұрын
    • That sounds like a brilliant idea if it’s possible. And you could do it in many other brands.

      @Kiwigucci@Kiwigucci5 ай бұрын
    • Not just the wheels, but the battery as well. And here we get stuck with the design.

      @vitalyromas6752@vitalyromas67522 ай бұрын
  • Its a SAAB looking car definitely, unique and in my opinion, really good looking. Kinda wish SAAB could come back.

    @Sinr0ne@Sinr0ne10 ай бұрын
    • I still belive 🙏

      @Axel-ei7pb@Axel-ei7pb10 ай бұрын
    • SAAD 😆

      @lesliegrace8360@lesliegrace836010 ай бұрын
    • There's so much potential in the brand itself. They should just own it and use the SAAB name instead of something new not much people know. Unless they use the NEVS as a test before reviving the SAAB name.

      @The_Curious_Cat@The_Curious_Cat10 ай бұрын
    • @@The_Curious_Cat NEVS are sadly not allowed to use the SAAB AB name, something that was said in 2016 after killing the last hope for the 9-3 platform

      @jonasrc9113@jonasrc911310 ай бұрын
    • @@jonasrc9113 Oh. Dammit. :/

      @The_Curious_Cat@The_Curious_Cat10 ай бұрын
  • They should launch it as a SAAB. So much history. So much heritage. And recognition.

    @TheCJUN@TheCJUN10 ай бұрын
    • They are making one of the best 4.5 gen fighter jets so...

      @johndoe-jg7he@johndoe-jg7he10 ай бұрын
    • I believe that they lost the privilege of using the name Saab by Saab AB. Unless they allow it there won't be any new brands with the name Saab

      @AxnerSaab@AxnerSaab10 ай бұрын
    • Someone need to buy Nevs and then change the name to SAAB again, all the factory from Saab is still there.

      @Claus651024@Claus65102410 ай бұрын
    • Unlike Hyundai who really should have rebranded prior to N-line

      @TYSTYSTYS2000@TYSTYSTYS200010 ай бұрын
    • In 2023 the company went bankrupt unfortunately...

      @nevco8774@nevco877410 ай бұрын
  • Saab has always been unique. Not looking at other car makers. They make their car. A Saab. Once a Saab lover, always a Saab fan.

    @B.Alance1st@B.Alance1st10 ай бұрын
    • SAAB never made a profit from its car division...

      @chrissmith2114@chrissmith21147 ай бұрын
    • Really? Nevertheless? Because of expensive all in house engineering?

      @B.Alance1st@B.Alance1st7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@chrissmith2114correction spelling : .never ( not nevertheless)

      @B.Alance1st@B.Alance1st7 ай бұрын
    • @@B.Alance1st What are you smokin' ?

      @chrissmith2114@chrissmith21147 ай бұрын
    • @chrissmith2114 I m asking a question, you just have an insult back...have a great day .

      @B.Alance1st@B.Alance1st7 ай бұрын
  • As a former Saab 93 Turbo X, I'd love to see this make it to production. Saab were into electric way back in a wagon they had before EV was cool. Go Saab!!

    @meteora8888@meteora88889 ай бұрын
  • It's so much more interesting to see brands compete to get the most range out of their EV's than to see them get the most hp's out of them.

    @johnjuiceshipper4963@johnjuiceshipper496310 ай бұрын
    • They market hp numbers and acceleration to get people to see that electric is not boring, but, yes it is good to see mileage marketing as well

      @nastystew6942@nastystew694210 ай бұрын
    • Electric cars are boring

      @ronaldmcdonald9322@ronaldmcdonald932210 ай бұрын
    • @@ronaldmcdonald9322- Buying gasoline/petroleum is boring, old, and tired.

      @brawnbenson552@brawnbenson55210 ай бұрын
    • ​@@brawnbenson552 EVs won't ever beat ICE cars in practicality Especially in distance. Never. Not like in a 5 or 10yrs to come

      @NaNoTech4Disaster@NaNoTech4Disaster10 ай бұрын
    • @@NaNoTech4Disaster EVs are already way more practical in terms of maintenance with fewer moving parts and no oil. And yes, lithium-based batteries are not at all suitable for cars, even though they are almost reaching parity in distance with ICEs. That will change with solid state batteries, though. By the way, your phrasing is hilarious. "Ever", "never", "in a 5 or 10 yrs to come" 🤣

      @zzaretube@zzaretube10 ай бұрын
  • I’ve said for a few years, that the EV-era would be a perfect window for SAAB to make a comeback. 👌🏼

    @Sebastian-cd1mo@Sebastian-cd1mo10 ай бұрын
    • love it, but why is that?

      @hn7405@hn74057 ай бұрын
    • @@hn7405 Because SAAB is a strong brand but comebacks are difficult. Many established car manufacturers are struggling with how to make a natural transition to the EV era but SAAB would have kind of a cleans slate in that sense. 🤔 Not too much baggage but still a strong brand as a bit of a quirky car maker. I also think they should make a proper retro redo of the 96. What BMW did with Mini. 🤩

      @Sebastian-cd1mo@Sebastian-cd1mo7 ай бұрын
    • @@Sebastian-cd1mo agree, very interesting

      @hn7405@hn74057 ай бұрын
    • WOW WOW WHAT A FKING BORING SHOW THIS HAS BECAME 🤮🤮

      @user-iz2qo7lq6o@user-iz2qo7lq6o6 ай бұрын
    • There are not SAAB , it is an China car now,. Only name are the same

      @hastsemester@hastsemester5 ай бұрын
  • I am just going to buy this and brand it as a SAAB myself with my own custom made stickers or something! This car is amazing....the SAAB spirit lives on ♥

    @aaronfrankie16@aaronfrankie1610 ай бұрын
    • You can get Saab emblems online.

      @Matticus-mb6wl@Matticus-mb6wl9 ай бұрын
    • Me too 😂

      @swescrawl@swescrawl3 ай бұрын
  • I had an '08 Saab 93 V6 turbo - might be the best car I ever owned. Would love a Saab comeback, especially those awesome seats they had!

    @williamlynd3052@williamlynd305210 ай бұрын
    • Saabs after 2000 had nothing to do with the Saab/scania we know and low after GM bought them

      @DuBstep115@DuBstep1158 ай бұрын
  • Please finalize and put this car into production. We need the essence of SAAB to keep going!

    @alexdiezg@alexdiezg10 ай бұрын
    • Nevs will sadly not to that but Nevs has put the Project for sale and other manufactors are intrested has nevs said, so who knows?

      @OliverRysen@OliverRysen10 ай бұрын
    • @@OliverRysen Whoever, whatever. SAAB needs to live!

      @alexdiezg@alexdiezg10 ай бұрын
    • @@alexdiezg They should buy the trademark SAAB Automotive name back.

      @erichtisnado1536@erichtisnado153610 ай бұрын
    • Koenigsegg is interested, so I've heard. (Living near the factory)

      @thereal_mikegnorp@thereal_mikegnorp10 ай бұрын
    • @@thereal_mikegnorp Please be Koenigsegg then. One Swede to revive another.

      @alexdiezg@alexdiezg10 ай бұрын
  • I’m in love with the idea that SAAB could return. And to do it with the Emily GT and its in-wheel technology would be a coup I bet. And that front seat design! Absolute Saabism ❤️

    @paulthomas318@paulthomas31810 ай бұрын
    • Saab car brand won't return as disappointingly, the aeronautical division blocked the used of the Saab brand name. I hear you though. I'm a complete Saab nut and would love for Saab to return!!

      @shafeeemamdee6638@shafeeemamdee663810 ай бұрын
    • Never Say Never !

      @busybee2033@busybee203310 ай бұрын
    • @@busybee2033 Never say Nevser

      @magnusek2430@magnusek243010 ай бұрын
    • @@shafeeemamdee6638 let's just call it a SAAB even if that wasn't really the case it looks like a SAAB it feels like a SAAB IT IS A SAAB IN MY BOOKS

      @omaralkayal7598@omaralkayal759810 ай бұрын
    • It's now owned by a Chinese conglomerate with CCP Chinese owners who all dance to the CCP Chinese tune... When will people grow up.

      @tunahxushi4669@tunahxushi466910 ай бұрын
  • Elimination of axles, brake systems, massive increases of passenger space and range, along with incredibly effective torque vectoring all adds up to the potential future of EV's. Brilliant! This is the engineering that can change the industry. Kudos to NEVS (I do wish they'd just call it a Saab).

    @daynevickers1079@daynevickers107910 ай бұрын
  • Interested in the longevity of the engines since they're on the wheels. The wheels usually take and absorb alot of vibrations that we in the car don't feel because we are seperated by the suspension.

    @MrAzmore@MrAzmore9 ай бұрын
  • Never thought I'd see the SAAB name associated with vehicles again. Makes me appreciate my 9-3 even more

    @ethanol6756@ethanol675610 ай бұрын
  • Nice to hear someone else pointing out that it's the sprung/unsprung ratio that's really important (rather than just unsprung mass)

    @PerdixDesignLtd@PerdixDesignLtd10 ай бұрын
    • “Don’t worry we’re doubling the unsprung mass, we’re making entire vehicles so egregiously heavy you won’t even notice.”

      @rsithron@rsithron10 ай бұрын
    • @@rsithron My thoughts exactly. But I'm willing to suspend my disbelief. (see what I did there?)

      @aldewachter7986@aldewachter798610 ай бұрын
  • Yes yes yes !! Loved the two 9000s I had in the 90's and Saab's attention to detail, safety and performance in defiance of GM's mass market cost-cutting philosophy. Emily alludes to a Taycan but with the Saab looks and practicality ... this is the first EV I really would want to buy !! ❤

    @user-nn5cg8lj4i@user-nn5cg8lj4i10 ай бұрын
  • It's amazing how much they managed to accomplish in just 10 months! I would definitely buy one

    @vidiviewgmail@vidiviewgmail10 ай бұрын
    • Really? If anything it looks to me like they took too long. Cobbling together a bunch of 3rd party components in 10 months is not that hard if we're honest. An judging by how silly it looks they didn't spend any of those 10 months working on the design - even more underwhelming.

      @biggeststeppa1@biggeststeppa110 ай бұрын
    • @@biggeststeppa1car looks good man calm down, you over reacting.

      @goham7201@goham72019 ай бұрын
    • @@goham7201 I'm just saying let's not celebrate what is an D- effort as if it's an A+ one, you know? It's okay to call out grifters

      @biggeststeppa1@biggeststeppa19 ай бұрын
    • ​@@biggeststeppa1I guess you are trolling. If not, then I guess you have never been in a big project. 10 months is nothing. It is really impressive what they accomplished!

      @mackan7086@mackan70869 ай бұрын
    • @@mackan7086 i'm not trolling, there's no difference between what they did here and what a 5 year old does putting together 4 lego blocks. we don't applaud the 5 year old, why should these guys be applauded?

      @biggeststeppa1@biggeststeppa19 ай бұрын
  • I'm glad he covered the unsprung mass issue.

    @esm7708@esm770810 ай бұрын
    • Definitely, although to say that you can make it "as good" suspension wise as lower unsprung mass is a bit of a stretch.

      @SgtStinger@SgtStinger10 ай бұрын
  • I will buy this. This is a SAAB. They always did things different, and they are bloody brilliant.

    @JS-el3zm@JS-el3zm10 ай бұрын
    • Shame it’s not for sale 😂

      @JonnyD3ath@JonnyD3ath10 ай бұрын
    • Ok Clarkson 😁

      @entropy5431@entropy543110 ай бұрын
    • @@JonnyD3ath same here, if it gets on sale 😅

      @dirhuebor2429@dirhuebor242910 ай бұрын
    • It's a Chinese EV

      @centralkingdom8141@centralkingdom814110 ай бұрын
    • @@centralkingdom8141 Chinese owned but created by Swedish engineers.

      @birchleaf@birchleaf10 ай бұрын
  • As a tank nerd the Porsche bit doesnt surprise me one bit. Because he also tried to incorporate hybrid drives into several of his tank designs, like the Ferdinand/Elefant tank destroyer (Formerly Porsche Tiger). This vehicle looks very good, extremly good for an early prototyp in fact. Nice to see that the future could be good looking and nice :)

    10 ай бұрын
  • Anyone else notice the front "pet" space at 07:36? They even dropped in some doggo clipart 😆

    @ppk80@ppk8010 ай бұрын
  • Yes, yes, yes! Been waiting for in wheel motors for years! Now give us small city cars with good range using the space freed up by not needing an in-body motor!

    @douglas8707@douglas870710 ай бұрын
  • I remember Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear testing a Mercedes-Benz SLS Gullwing with electric motors behind each wheel. Performance was unbelievable, with an astronomical price. It's great to see a company using this technology, looking at developing it for regular road cars. Hope the rest of the EV industry doesn't kill it off!

    @Paris__@Paris__10 ай бұрын
    • Ah, but the one Clarkson tested didn't have in-wheel motors. There were 4 individual motors but with 4 short drive shafts to each wheel.

      @JohnFekoloid@JohnFekoloid10 ай бұрын
    • "" Hope the rest of the EV industry doesn't kill it off!" it's glaring how often technical ideas that seem Columbus's egg but ultimately don't survive, as it also relies on cost and scalability, subsequently get blamed on outside forces 'killing it off'. No, if it works then everybody will try to copy it, not kill it off. It if doesn't work, it will not survive by itself and doesn't need to be killed.

      @GBOAC@GBOAC10 ай бұрын
    • A US company, Aptera, is putting the ev motors in each wheel also.

      @ianwooding3443@ianwooding344310 ай бұрын
    • It just make sense to move the motors into the wheels - if they are compact and light enough - and use them for acceleration and breaking as unsprung mass, the latest Yasa motor got only 24kg, 5l volume and output 800NM. That's already useable. No I am not working with Mercedes, I am just excited what is already in mass production or will get into this year.

      @bavariancarenthusiast2722@bavariancarenthusiast272210 ай бұрын
    • GM had the in-wheel motors with their 1st EV, but of course 'unsprung weight ' raised its ugly head. Now things are different, materials lighter and electric motors ridiculously compact so IT IS TIME!

      @jimgiordano8039@jimgiordano803910 ай бұрын
  • As a lifelong SAAB fan from a family of SAAB owners, it is so good to see the next SAAB car, even if it is in spirit only.

    @GeirGunnarss@GeirGunnarss10 ай бұрын
    • I'm absolutely sure there's gonna be a lot of aftermarket "SAAB conversion kits" for this one if they'll decide this no name NEVS brand instead of the legendary SAAB that would sky rocket the sales in Northern/North West Europe

      @vital0208@vital020810 ай бұрын
  • Been a SAAB owner and loved my 9-3. Would be so happy if SAAB would come back.

    @operastudio1712@operastudio171210 ай бұрын
    • That would be a real reincarnation.

      @kneh39@kneh399 ай бұрын
  • I’ve had 4 SAAB’s in my time and I am only 47. Brilliant cars so I hope their engineers have not lost what they once had, before GM tried to put them in reins. I see so much potential for this system.

    @willjeffery2661@willjeffery266110 ай бұрын
    • I’m curious how resilient the engines and their enclosures are. It’s a very destructive environment down there.

      @vondahe@vondahe10 ай бұрын
    • Still have my 9-3

      @stevemiller1626@stevemiller16269 ай бұрын
    • If they were that brilliant, you still needed 4? Had a top of the line 9-3 turbo once. By far the worst car I have ever driven...

      @bassicallybassically3902@bassicallybassically39028 ай бұрын
    • @@bassicallybassically3902 That's because you had a GM Saab. Basically a Vauxhall Vectra in a party frock! My 9-5 was also GM and was the worst of all the Saab's i had.

      @willjeffery2661@willjeffery26618 ай бұрын
  • Great looking car, though a bit of a pity it doesnt have a Saab badge on it. I think this technology is seriously impressive and could be the future of electric motoring.

    @konkeydong6907@konkeydong690710 ай бұрын
    • As a Saab nutjob, I was disappointed that when the Saab automotive industry died, Saab aeronautical took back the name and blocked the use of the Brand name to be used again!!

      @shafeeemamdee6638@shafeeemamdee663810 ай бұрын
    • @@shafeeemamdee6638 I never like fake badges, but on this car it’s a must to install a SAAB badge.

      @markm0000@markm000010 ай бұрын
    • What about disposal of the batteries? And how long does it take to recharge the batteries? 🤔 Just asking…😊

      @user-ug5md9hz5r@user-ug5md9hz5r10 ай бұрын
    • @@user-ug5md9hz5r There's always one......

      @sandersson2813@sandersson281310 ай бұрын
  • It’s so nice to see Tom again. I remember him from Fifth Gear, nice to see him back again!

    @eastielover@eastielover9 ай бұрын
  • removing gears from the mototrs is the one thing ive been thinking that all manufacturers should do. these guys know what they are doing. wish i could work with them this car is a dream project bc of all the efficient engineering gone into it

    @HairFollicle@HairFollicle12 күн бұрын
  • Inwheel motor is the very natural way to go for ev conversions, I hope we see more of them as affordable kits.

    @edentahilla9295@edentahilla929510 ай бұрын
    • but wouldn't so much unsprung mass be abysmal?

      @lovevideojuegos@lovevideojuegos10 ай бұрын
    • But if we start with a simple bicycle to E-bike conversion , a mid drive unit is superior to motor hub .

      @oi32df@oi32df10 ай бұрын
    • ​@lovevideojuegos would you simply not just fill the engine bay and fuel tank area with batteries instead. Essentially replacing the bulk of the weight with batteries?

      @garethbattersby@garethbattersby10 ай бұрын
    • @@lovevideojuegos well... Could be an issue, with older motor technology, but would be a more straight forward conversion for ICE cars that are not built from the ground up to be EVs.

      @edentahilla9295@edentahilla929510 ай бұрын
    • @@edentahilla9295 In a rwd car it would eliminate the diff, driveshafts, fuel tank g,box some engine space(allowing crumple zone) that empty space is now a battery pack

      @kylereese4822@kylereese482210 ай бұрын
  • Loved my Saab 9-5. Felt like I was driving in the clouds. It’s great to see Saab doing this level of innovation. What a time to be alive

    @shankypr@shankypr10 ай бұрын
    • yes, the $1000 car. Every time it went to the dealer, it cost $1000.

      @godsinbox@godsinbox10 ай бұрын
    • @@godsinbox not true I had a Saab 95 for five years. I had one problem with it in five years. The doorhandle got stuck. That was it.

      @jamesbarbato2463@jamesbarbato246310 ай бұрын
    • @@godsinboxGood thing they rarely brake down then.

      @viktorjjakobsson9710@viktorjjakobsson971010 ай бұрын
    • @@godsinbox Well, it depends on how often you would have to go to the dealer. I would be glad to go there once a year if that's all it took!

      @realalsenor@realalsenor9 ай бұрын
    • I'm still driving my 1999 Saab 9-5 that I bought in 2007. My son also got infected with Saab and bought a 2006 9-3 and loves it.

      @edward_j_leblanc@edward_j_leblanc8 ай бұрын
  • Aptera also is gonna use in wheel motors for the efficiency gains

    @spoorthyv@spoorthyv9 ай бұрын
    • Aptera will be using hub motors made by Elaphe Motors.

      @casparheyl4353@casparheyl4353Ай бұрын
  • It used to be quite popular in Taiwan among my dad's generation. And for sure I would def buy one regard of its legendary story and such cool aesthetics.

    @hn7405@hn74057 ай бұрын
  • It's so sad that this might not ever sell. NEVS has almost gone backrupt and they have fired pretty much everyone except the CEO. I hope some company buys this prodject, its currently a few companies looking at it. This looks like a amazing car, something that makes Saab live on.

    @SiPlSe@SiPlSe10 ай бұрын
    • What I find sad is that the engineers who strived to design and make this, were let go. I only hope they got jobs quickly and had their brilliance recognised.

      @meepmeep634@meepmeep63410 ай бұрын
    • ​@@meepmeep634yeah it must be hard for them. First they got fired from Saab because they went bankrupt and now the same thing happens with NEVS. Such Great cars that never gets to sell. Saab already had Electric car prototypes and hybrids in the early 2000:s...

      @SiPlSe@SiPlSe10 ай бұрын
    • @@meepmeep634 They might be brilliant in some aspects but they did a lot of stupid things too. Like doubling the service interval without modifying the engine to handle this, causing a huge amount of catastrophic engine failures. And without addressing this design issue they went under, obviously. And nobody is buying their air crafts either.

      @bounzig@bounzig10 ай бұрын
    • @@bounzig I'd imagine that was not the idea of the engineers, more likely the bean counters! Saab Group has a complicated history, but I think they operated as separate companies. They are working with Boeing on a trainer and with BAe on the Tempest. Pretty impressive for a country the size of Sweden.

      @meepmeep634@meepmeep63410 ай бұрын
    • @@meepmeep634 They have been working on that air craft since early 90's. It will never work as intended, it's a tax money pit. We have other tech that is much more impressive. No, it was not the bean counters fault. It was a design flaw. The bean counters kept SAAB alive for decades while the engineers spent the money on wasteful things, there is a documentary about this.

      @bounzig@bounzig10 ай бұрын
  • For me the biggest benefit of in wheel motors is the lack of need for CV halfshafts which are ridden with lash and breaking issues on basically every EV that exists. It also allows for extreme suspension geometries like a lifted off-road pickup truck without worry about CV angles.

    @ParhelionGame@ParhelionGame10 ай бұрын
    • In wheel motors have serious drawbacks too unfortunately, unsprung mass increases dramatically and this affects handling negatively and dramatically. Interesting to see how they solved that?

      @vicbauwens@vicbauwens10 ай бұрын
    • The downside is an increase in unsprung mass. Tricky trade off

      @patrickl9930@patrickl993010 ай бұрын
    • @@vicbauwens the effect on handling is not dramatic. that is just something autocrossers tell each other to feel better about expensive lightweight wheels.

      @JackMott@JackMott10 ай бұрын
    • @@JackMottit must somehow, because a number of manufacturers have played around with this already, I remember a Volvo C30 demonstrator with in wheel motors, nothing ever came from it.

      @vicbauwens@vicbauwens6 ай бұрын
  • Apparently it will be displayed in Gothenburg next month. If they start producing this, it will be my first EV car. I am Swrdish and we remember the unbeliavable quality and tech they had.

    @MrDannyNoTranny@MrDannyNoTranny6 ай бұрын
  • This is awesome, incredibly promising technology and great journalism from Top Gear! Hoping motor industry giants adopt and don't attempt to kill it off.

    @georgewilyman4267@georgewilyman426710 ай бұрын
  • The interesting thing about in-wheel EM, you can use it for aircraft to eliminate the need for towing vehicles, therefore minimising the possibility of runway incursion with airport equipment.

    @AntoniusTyas@AntoniusTyas10 ай бұрын
    • Vueling have just demonstrated this last week using a system called "WheelTug"

      @cheekychappy1234@cheekychappy123410 ай бұрын
    • Its still heavy tho. Aeroeng is all about weight reduction.

      @dru4670@dru467010 ай бұрын
    • @@dru4670 yeah nah. the bit of weight it adds is more than worth it ion exchange for only having to start the turbines when taking off.

      @anonym3017@anonym301710 ай бұрын
    • @@dru4670 it's not about the flying bits. It's about operational stuffs on land. For take off it won't be used, just for taxiing from apron to runway before departure.

      @AntoniusTyas@AntoniusTyas10 ай бұрын
    • @@dru4670 What it eliminates is fuel usage from the main engines during taxiing. That fuel usage can be quite substantial.

      @cheekychappy1234@cheekychappy123410 ай бұрын
  • They should definitely rebrand it as SAAB! It's a wonderful concept ❤

    @geethsan1567@geethsan156710 ай бұрын
  • Question; Driving along a motorway, would it then be possible to use one ore two wheels for forward trust and the rest for reloading the battery?

    @salvelegio1425@salvelegio14258 ай бұрын
    • Yes but that would defeat the purpose. You’d be loosing more energy moving forward than gaining it

      @willpeeler8547@willpeeler8547Ай бұрын
  • For your reference about what happened to saab: The story is related to NEVS and two chinese companiee, geely and chery. Geely, the company that bought volvo and lotus, started a R&D centre in Sweden in 2013, and developed the CMA platform (xc40, polestar 2 and a lot of link&co) and SEA archetechture (smart #1, zeekr, ex30, eletre). while CEVT employed former volve engineers and a lot of SAAB employees, the chery bought the brand. It's said that chery produced components for SAABs after 2012 when they bought the brand. As for NEVS, they bought the assets like factories.

    @FrankBao@FrankBao8 ай бұрын
    • So, if you want a saab, buy a volvo/zeekr/polestar.

      @FrankBao@FrankBao8 ай бұрын
  • When I see these hub motors, all I can think about is the MASSIVE unsprung weight.

    @lwwells@lwwells10 ай бұрын
    • And about the ease of damaging them should you blow a tyre.

      @ii7317@ii731710 ай бұрын
    • Yay basic engineering!

      @misteratoz@misteratoz10 ай бұрын
    • @@ii7317 mate. it's inside a rim. blowing a tyre ain't even close to whats required to get through the rim and to the motor.

      @anonym3017@anonym301710 ай бұрын
    • @@anonym3017still huge unsprung weight, a heavy car ruining the roads and a pile of toxic scrap in ~10 years.

      @gamerdrive5565@gamerdrive556510 ай бұрын
    • @@gamerdrive5565 still taking that over any SUV.

      @kes_r@kes_r10 ай бұрын
  • I’ve never driven a SAAB but my friend’s dad raves about his old SAAB and how it was the only car he’s ever driven that would blow in cool air on your face from outside and warm air on your feet at the same time. He’s always talking about how he wishes other cars had that feature!

    @ejohnson3131@ejohnson313110 ай бұрын
    • Any bmw can do that too. Just saying.

      @bounzig@bounzig10 ай бұрын
    • There are hundreds of occasions over the past few years when I have desperately wanted this feature. Wow. Saab then...

      @Seppnick@Seppnick10 ай бұрын
    • @@bounzig this was like 30 years ago

      @Emppu_T.@Emppu_T.10 ай бұрын
    • @@Emppu_T. My 2011 3 series has it. So there are probably cars up to 2013-15 equipped with it. It's not a function I've paid much attention to, I'm not sure when they canceled it. But it wasn't 30 years ago.

      @bounzig@bounzig10 ай бұрын
    • @@Emppu_T. I did a little research, it seems they still provide this function.

      @bounzig@bounzig10 ай бұрын
  • I do respect and love NEVS for having part of the Saab 9-5s outer design incooperated into the vehicle. Now if they could convince Saab the airplane manufacturer to cooperate with them to make other vehicles, we might look at the revival of Saab, like a Griffin rising out of the Snow depths of a Cave

    @chaospxl_@chaospxl_10 ай бұрын
  • Simple idea, but as always takes talented engineers to bring things like this to reality. I do hope this sees the light of day

    @Mr.P001@Mr.P00110 ай бұрын
  • Thank you Top Gear for finally making a video involving Protean. I’ve been waiting almost a decade for this and hopefully Mate Rimac watches this and likes it, there’s so much potential in hub wheel motors

    @64mikecowart@64mikecowart10 ай бұрын
  • I have seen this car in Trollhattan recently, it is an absolute looker! Not a mule or rough prototype, but a zero-production, ready to ride BEV. Such a great interior to! Having seen the very innovative specifications, I am flabergasted this isn't in full scale production yet.

    @roelof1966@roelof196610 ай бұрын
    • Well, considering they made this car 10 years ago (which is why they are using the pancake motors that hybrids used to sandwich between the transmission and ICE) and they have recently filed for bankruptcy...

      @gcodori@gcodori10 ай бұрын
    • @@gcodori I don't think you were paying attention.

      @davidcolin6519@davidcolin651910 ай бұрын
    • NEVS shut down March 2023 and basically liquidated the company. In addition to laying off 95% of the company, NEVS also lost the rights to SAAB trademarks which unfortunately for you, this car was based upon. But fear not, we can at least pretend this car is real...

      @gcodori@gcodori10 ай бұрын
    • You just blew my dream

      @hzleyes7087@hzleyes708710 ай бұрын
    • @@gcodori None of that means that it can't be resurrected. There are plenty and I do mean PLENTY of current companies that were entirely shut down and sold off at some point in their history or other. Just thinking of a few right now, and restricting myself to only vehicle manufacturers Audi MG Maserati Lamborghini Bugatti Triumph m/cycles Benelli m/cycles MV Agusta m/cycles BSA m/cycles And that is by no means a definitive list, it was just some of the companies that I can think of right now.

      @davidcolin6519@davidcolin651910 ай бұрын
  • Its all the "Surstrømning"... these Swedish engineers are just so impressive. If its unheard off, hard and complex than they are on fire. Thinking out of the box and place it all in the wheels its so impressive

    @egj1975@egj197510 ай бұрын
  • I remember seeing a Volvo concept car around 2005-2006 with four hub motors. It was already impressive then, and the obvious way to go. With 16 years of additional technological development, the idea may be maturing. I would love to have a Saab 4WD EV.

    @edward_j_leblanc@edward_j_leblanc8 ай бұрын
  • Love the overall look of the car,especially the unique looking roof line

    @johnnyboy1586@johnnyboy158610 ай бұрын
    • Just get a second gen Scion Tc : much cheaper and more practical in hatchback two doors

      @oi32df@oi32df10 ай бұрын
  • When Saab disappeared I genuinely thought that would the last time we would see them altogether. Who would have thought that behind the scenes the techs and engineers were hard at work thinking about the future. I do hope that NEVS are able to bring this vehicle to the market but I do hope they put in some more buttons!

    @willienelsongonzalez4609@willienelsongonzalez460910 ай бұрын
    • Never gonna happen...NEVS shut down March 2023 and basically liquidated the company. In addition to laying off 95% of the company, NEVS also lost the rights to SAAB trademarks.

      @nebod1556@nebod155610 ай бұрын
    • @@nebod1556 Nevs never had the rights to SAAB trademarks in the first place which is why they were called Nevs

      @Lamster66@Lamster6610 ай бұрын
    • @@Lamster66 Well they (Nevs) produced cars called Saab so ....

      @nebod1556@nebod155610 ай бұрын
    • @@nebod1556 So... What? They did but its unclear whether they were given permission to rerun production or simply as they'd bought the trolhatten site and all the tooling and then fired up the existing production line of a Licenced product they were likely still licenced to do so. WHEREAS as soon as they made them electric they weren't allowed to use the SAAB brand because the branding wasn't sold to them and the product they were producing was never licenced as a SAAB product Certainly anything they could produce like the prototype in. The video it can't ever be a SAAB. As for it being dead Maybr maybe not It's the chinese company that went bankrupt not specifically NEVS. So if some want's to put the money in there's still a possi ility that NEVS could be revived. Doubtful but not impossible

      @Lamster66@Lamster6610 ай бұрын
  • Nice and how do you change the tire? An is the motor designed to resist all the vibrations and extreme conditions in a wheel? Brakes can heat to more then 400 degrees... Magnets usually loose the magnetic properties at that temperatures. Many manufacturers wanted to put the motors in the wheels but it was impossible or much too expensive.

    @sandale@sandale10 ай бұрын
  • thx man and nice to see you doing videos

    @az85iz@az85iz10 ай бұрын
  • What an excellent comprehensive review. Answers all the questions

    @DouglasJWalker@DouglasJWalker10 ай бұрын
    • Apart from the two main ones - will it ever go into production and how much will it cost.

      @AceEnt-mk1nl@AceEnt-mk1nl10 ай бұрын
    • That was a crap review. They're missing out on the really cool and innovative stuff about that car.

      @thereal_mikegnorp@thereal_mikegnorp10 ай бұрын
    • @@thereal_mikegnorpare you hoing to enlighten us instead then?

      @JonnyD3ath@JonnyD3ath10 ай бұрын
    • @@JonnyD3ath Chat gpt is your friend.

      @thereal_mikegnorp@thereal_mikegnorp10 ай бұрын
    • @@thereal_mikegnorp so you’re not then.

      @JonnyD3ath@JonnyD3ath10 ай бұрын
  • Don't know how long he's been with TG now, but seen him after ages and ages. I used to love his reviews in the old days, always funny. I hope he continues with his unique fun style. 🙂

    @a.m.9357@a.m.935710 ай бұрын
  • Dunno about the design on the outside, but inside looked nice. Good ideas and huge battery sounds appealing. Hope the motors are as efficient as the regular setups. The outward appearance can be changed to something nice I hope :D Would love to have this as a SAAB branded car.

    @MyrKnof@MyrKnof10 ай бұрын
  • so when you hit a sharp pothole, at night in the rain, you not only crack the wheel but also the motor, just great

    @darius2640@darius264010 ай бұрын
  • Not only does the car have looks that hints of a Saab car but the EV design has the design thought process that we expect of a Saab car.

    @siongheeleong8078@siongheeleong807810 ай бұрын
  • I love how the electric drive-train is sparking ever more innovations and increasingly cool products and driving experiences. EV's are not not killing the driving experience, they're the start of a whole new and exciting era of car technology!

    @trashmail8@trashmail810 ай бұрын
    • Couple this with new battery technologies emerging over the next 2-3 years, and EVs will be dominant in 10 years.

      @SomeUserNameBlahBlah@SomeUserNameBlahBlah10 ай бұрын
    • Except this is not innovation, it's been done before and no one uses it because it sucks. Reason? Unsprung weight and RPM limit

      @DuBstep115@DuBstep1158 ай бұрын
    • Until in 15/20 years when they're all second bangers OUT OF LEASE/WARRANTY -with exploded batteries, and cost 10 times more than the car Itself and is old dilapidated! Antiquated technology.

      @Future-Classic-Comics@Future-Classic-Comics3 ай бұрын
    • @@Future-Classic-Comics The amount of money I save for while driving my EV my daily commute, will save me enough money to buy the car again within the 8-year warranty period for the battery pack. So shortly put: I'm not paying for gasoline, I'm saving to pay for a new car. Which also means that essentially I'm only paying once for a new car, not twice. And why would battery costs increase 10 times over time while battery production costs are dropping like crazy over the past decade? And why would old batteries explode? I've got rechargeable batteries from the 90's that still work..

      @trashmail8@trashmail83 ай бұрын
  • Aptera are using in wheel motors too, seems like such a clever idea

    @potter2702@potter27029 ай бұрын
  • In a practical sense, when you remove the wheel does the motor come with it? Or is the motor fixed to the hub? Some of the b-roll foot showed them fitting a wheel with the motor already in-situ. If that's true, having the tyres changed sounds like a problem.

    @bowman4275@bowman427510 ай бұрын
  • The Aptera has in wheel motors, if I’m remembering correctly. Also MIT developed an in wheel vehicle for GM guided by the late Bill Mitchell in the 2000’s. I agree that it’s an important piece of technology.

    @michaelswisher9696@michaelswisher969610 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful, and cool. Even the name - Emily GT - just perfect. 😄 This is the first EV, except Lucid Air, that has made me really feel “Oh , I want one of those”. 👍🏼😊 I only hope it will not be prohibitively expensive when it is launched.

    @evangelinewandering9547@evangelinewandering954710 ай бұрын
    • It will not be launched at all sadly, Nevs doesnt have the economic for it, nevs has put the project on salu tho, Nevs sais that there is many intressted in the project and wants to by the prototype

      @OliverRysen@OliverRysen10 ай бұрын
    • With the huge battery it will be very expensive.

      @rogerphelps9939@rogerphelps993910 ай бұрын
  • Great review and great car. In-hub motors are used by every escooter and uniwheel on the market, so definitely not new tech, but very smart eliminating all the drive shafts and differentials. Yep, please bring it to market.

    @howardfreedman4289@howardfreedman428910 ай бұрын
  • Well done for making it to top gear !

    @AdrianMcDaid@AdrianMcDaid10 ай бұрын
  • Finally, modern hub motors in EV cars! I’ve been complaining about this for years! Now, hopefully, we will see conversion kits using this tech so we can add these wheels to older cars, rip out an old dead engine, put the batteries there, and save some of our old classics. Obviously some classic cars are classic BECAUSE of their engines, but for those cars that are just great for looks and not so much driving, this would be a solution.

    @proper_miles@proper_miles10 ай бұрын
    • I hate EV conversions, unless done with cheap ugly mass produced cars no one wants, which no one seems to be doing. I'd imagine most of them get neglected with the unreliability of such conversion, they're probably unbalanced as hell, considering the chassis was designed to have an engine somewhere in it, and not batteries, so the argument of driving better doesn't stick anywhere. And either way EVs have top speeds comparable to cars in the 80s, and the 0-100 time gets pretty old pretty quick. There's more to a car than acceleration, and like I said you won't be going anywhere with that unbalanced mess, unless it's a very straight, very short road. Maybe an empty parking lot!! Fitting :D

      @BubbleDouble@BubbleDouble10 ай бұрын
    • I’ve had a view for a long time that, given that the current global volume of ICE cars that should not be trashed (expense, waste, etc.), retrofit of the current fleet if ICE cars would be a logical progression, particularly if a small range of tech and kit options could be designed to be used in high volume models, such as say, a Corolla. This in wheel tech could be a real part of that set of options, by the look of it.

      @emptyal5341@emptyal534110 ай бұрын
    • @@BubbleDouble If you look at a velocity curve on a track day have a guess where a majority of the curve falls. It's most definitely not at the high end - it's in the breaking and accelerating. Top speed is infinitely more of a gimmick than acceleration or breaking. Everything else you just said couldn't be more wrong, older cars generally had bigger heavier engines that resulted in CoM's higher off the ground and thus worse roll etc. Battery packs massively lower the CoM and plant the vehicle miles better around corners etc. Suspension set-up would need to be changed, but besides that, everything else would be improved.

      @bilbonob548@bilbonob54810 ай бұрын
    • @@bilbonob548 Not talking about track driving, of course you aren't reaching top speeds in a track. No one reaches their max speed driving day to day either but the same goes for the acceleration. For track days you have more inexpensive, and way better ICM models, which come perfectly aligned from the factory (same goes for day to day driving...). Not all old cars had bigger engines, most european models had 2-3l engines and most EV conversions I've seen have been done on models like the e30, which is an already nimble car with a light engine. At most the engine including the transmission is going to weigh around 200-250 kgs. Not sure what type of batteries they use for conversions, but a quick google search brings up the weight of a nissan leaf battery to 300 kgs, lets not even bring up tesla batteries, which is what everyone uses. Even if somehow vertically the CoM is better, you can't get over the disbalances between the front and rear axis you're going to cause without stripping the car apart even more.

      @BubbleDouble@BubbleDouble10 ай бұрын
    • Co sign

      @expdwilliams545@expdwilliams54510 ай бұрын
  • This looks really nice. Plus, the wheel spindles could be designed to articulate 90d at all four corners.

    @MaxJam684@MaxJam68410 ай бұрын
    • For what purpose?

      @st33ldi9ital@st33ldi9ital10 ай бұрын
    • @@st33ldi9ital very easy parking!

      @roliasder@roliasder10 ай бұрын
    • Also god-tier off-road capabilities! There was, maybe 20 years ago, a pre-FIAT Jeep EV concept with 4 motors and 4 independently steering wheels. Money doesn't seem to be an object anymore for Wranglers anyway, so I would very much love to see that concept brought to life again.

      @FabriSlv@FabriSlv10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@st33ldi9italjust imagine.

      @edrcozonoking@edrcozonoking10 ай бұрын
    • You would want to go passed 45d! Even with steering by wire you still have support the entire for all the four wheels to turn simultaneously! What an expense?

      @kevinburke6743@kevinburke674310 ай бұрын
  • I really like the pitch from the Protean CEO: confident but not flashy. I wish them well

    @micdev42@micdev4210 ай бұрын
  • Manufacturers have spent years developing light weight wheels, brakes and suspension to reduce un-sprung weight as this has a huge effect on the way a vehicle steers and rides. NEVS slaps on 140kg of extra USW yet claims it can respond like an F1 car. Newtons laws of motion do not support a statement like that. Yes the car to wheel USW ratio may be similar to a standard set up but that extra mass still has to be managed and their s/w seems to do an amazing job.

    @Deepb1u@Deepb1u9 ай бұрын
  • I would have liked it if the saab logo and the production in Sweden had been kept. But nevs also has a good design

    @g.g.9524@g.g.952410 ай бұрын
  • Unsprung mass is the Achilles heel of this kind of electric motor application (driving dynamics wise). And there are a lot of undamped vibrations that will fatigue those motors in time (reliability wise). Although is a great concept in theory, it will never become a mass production option for big manufacturers like VAG, Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance or the huge chinese manufactures like Geely, BYD or Dongfeng. I hope SAAB finds another way to come back to the car market because it still has a lot of fans around the world.

    @MrBlkburn@MrBlkburn10 ай бұрын
    • Was scrolling through the comments to find this exact comment. The idea is good but its unsustainable.

      @dinmor2701@dinmor270110 ай бұрын
    • air suspension and active dampers. I feel like he would have said it if was uncomfortable

      @PH-kl5qq@PH-kl5qq10 ай бұрын
    • @@PH-kl5qq Who mentioned comfort? 🤔 I guess its plenty comfortable, but its not the issue we are are adressing.

      @dinmor2701@dinmor270110 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely amazing! Please bring back SAAB 🇸🇪 with this brilliant machine 👍

    @hireality@hireality10 ай бұрын
  • very cool. my only questions would be how easy/affordable are they to replace if you damage a wheel. what about if you get a flat tyre is it the same to change?

    @thesugarlipslove@thesugarlipslove10 ай бұрын
  • Those seats look really a futuristic version of SAAB seat. Saab always innovates until they fall in the hands of GM. In the old days, SAAB always took their cars just from production and seal them and then transport them to a track for long term test. Maybe they can do this for this vehicle to get buyer accepting this tech.

    @martintokinaga5261@martintokinaga526110 ай бұрын
    • Most EV companies want to hide their track testing since the cars weigh as much as a tank and can't handle for crap. The electric torque might hide the weight in drag racing but you can't hide the weight from corners....

      @Peter-uo9km@Peter-uo9km10 ай бұрын
    • GM it's one of the kings in the car industry what are you talking about?? the Americans keep teaching the Europeans how to proper make EV cars, I guess you guys still don't want to learn.

      @christhedoc8689@christhedoc868910 ай бұрын
    • Owned by chinese group now?

      @nexu2010@nexu201010 ай бұрын
    • ​@@christhedoc8689either you have no idea about Saab or about GM. Chevy always made the boring cars...Olds, Buick and later Saturn only did some cool stuff. SAAB was more like chrysler in the late 50s a true Engineering company with bad sales men. But amazing cars & tech

      @gorkzop@gorkzop10 ай бұрын
    • @@christhedoc8689 The build quality of American Teslas is known to be pretty bad for such an expensive car. Irony is that the German built Teslas don't have those build quality issues.

      @PURENT@PURENT10 ай бұрын
  • Really cool. I am impressed. I hope they can get them in production soon!

    @clubsobri@clubsobri10 ай бұрын
  • Simply amazing! I would buy this car without any questions. In-wheel motor, torque vectoring. OMG! Please make them available in the U.S.

    @rubenabalos458@rubenabalos45810 ай бұрын
  • How much to switch from Summer wheels to Winter wheels? And who can switch the Tyres?

    @xperience-evolution@xperience-evolution10 ай бұрын
  • Top notch engineering. No less than I'd expect from those clever Swedish engineers. I hope it gets into production.

    @markbriggs5531@markbriggs553110 ай бұрын
    • Except for the machine building pieces seen @1:48 which is made by ATS that is located in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada.

      @conservativeontarian328@conservativeontarian32810 ай бұрын
    • ​@@conservativeontarian328Thanks for the info. Clever Canadian engineers too :)

      @markbriggs5531@markbriggs553110 ай бұрын
    • @@markbriggs5531 thanks! there's a couple of us. This part of Ontario is a big hotspot for manufacturing technical excellence, but it's sadly becoming a dying trade. The bright spot in this is that we now specialize in working on such high end jobs as what's seen in this video.

      @conservativeontarian328@conservativeontarian32810 ай бұрын
  • Twice I've had alloys shatter because of potholes in the UK. Second time it munched the brake disc and hub. Can't imagine the cost if that happens on this.

    @jakejohnson_@jakejohnson_10 ай бұрын
    • Yeah it's so much more likely too with the weight in the wheel. You'd need a LOT more sidewall if you wanted to have a chance of it surviving

      @asharak84@asharak8410 ай бұрын
  • 600 mile range is wild, although you lose range every year with electric cars and not to mention the maintenance is probably expensive or can only be done by few since this car seems to have a new type of motor wheel technology. I would definitely consider buying one of these!

    @iplayoldschoolrunescape@iplayoldschoolrunescape10 ай бұрын
    • A wheel change 👨‍🔧 would be a nightmare 😢

      @Akelehimarenge@Akelehimarenge10 ай бұрын
  • glad to hear SAAB might be back on automotive track again. However, I am not sure about in-wheel-motor driven car. When it is new, it works for sure! But after having all abuses on most busy part of the car........... I am pretty sure in-wheel-motor will not survive....... or life-span would be very short.

    @backnunAndy@backnunAndy10 ай бұрын
    • Aptera is also using in hub motors being developed with Elaphe and they're very public about their testing. It's actually quite interesting how well they hold up to extreme driving conditions.

      @jamesdowns9394@jamesdowns939410 ай бұрын
    • The thing is its electric so no big moving parts that could get out of place with vibrations. Yes it might be damaged when you hit something like a fatass pothole, but by that same logic and situation the wheel would break on a normal car anyways so you'd have to replace it. Also the fact that three wheels can fail but itll still get you home on one is great

      @TooMuchRecoil@TooMuchRecoil10 ай бұрын
    • @@TooMuchRecoil Not really though - you're hitting the wheel itself much harder on each pothole so you'll break the wheel before a normal car would have. Also it's perhaps possible that some wheels fail and it's still drivable but it depends on more information than is in this video - it's just as likely that one failure would disable the whole car (see why a dual motor tesla model 3 does not actually gain redundancy vs the single motor one)

      @asharak84@asharak8410 ай бұрын
    • This was unfortunately a One-off Prototype. SAAB has been dead since 2011 and NEVS, the company which made this car is now in so called "Hibernation" having laid off 95% of it's staff. As much as we All want them to, SAAB might never make a car again.

      @HiveMynd@HiveMynd10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@MustBePerfectForeverlordstown declared bankrupt and sued Foxconn for harm I think I wheel motors are cool but they need to stand a lot of abuse And tires see a lot of damage Imagine a tireburst causing your car to become an insurance loss

      @superior7387@superior738710 ай бұрын
  • I love the idea of motors which are directly bolted to the wheels, very good for packaging. But I am concerned about the unsprung mass, even though they said the ratio is balanced but still suspension will have a hard time on bumpy roads.

    @bishaldas4878@bishaldas487810 ай бұрын
    • They could at least save a few kg per corner by omitting the spokes. Prototypes could run 2- or 3-piece race wheels minus the spokes, then production cars could get a bespoke OEM wheel. Ideally, they could even make the motor case double as the wheel barrel. Of course, the rim would have to be bolt-together for mounting tires.

      @concinnus@concinnus10 ай бұрын
    • Not only the unsprung mass. I'm worried about all the shock that the motors are receiving directly.

      @Leathersoup@Leathersoup10 ай бұрын
    • @@Leathersoup The tire provides a spring, and much more sensitive electronics have been hardened enough to create e.g. nuclear artillery in the 50s. Shock loads will be fine.

      @concinnus@concinnus10 ай бұрын
    • It sounds like they've attempted to balance the ratio by using a ridiculous sized battery. I dread to think what the overall weight is.

      @tewrgh@tewrgh10 ай бұрын
    • @@tewrgh It's basically a Lucid Air plus an extra standard range battery, so probably 6000-7000 pounds.

      @concinnus@concinnus10 ай бұрын
  • I have been a dedicated follower of Protean for nearly a decade. While I appreciate their commitment to hub motors, I believe there's an opportunity to enhance power while reducing weight. Nonetheless, I commend them, alongside Elaphe in Slovakia, for investing in this underrated echnology. It's exciting to witness Saab utilizing their innovations.

    @Niamato_inc@Niamato_inc9 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant - I owned an 08 9-3 Conv and it was one of the best car I've ever owned.

    @Budfrog23@Budfrog2310 ай бұрын
  • I see little bit of New 95 at the rear there! Nice! The 9000 had massive rear seat space as well. IMO the 9000 was the best SAAB made. The crazy thing about this concept is the unsprung weight, which normally manufacturers try to keep down. The video goes into this -I do wonder however what happens if you hit some large pot-hole with one of these wheels. (And, as I type this, the video mentions this too ;-) Oh, and scr*w GM for not utilising the SAAB excellent engineers.

    @patrikfloding7985@patrikfloding798510 ай бұрын
    • +1 to your comment! I am curious about the unsprung mass, and also the angular momentum the front motors will have during fast, long curves. I'd imagine the braking is not as impacted because of regen, but that would be another curveball. Scr*w GM indeed

      @Karan-nj2dk@Karan-nj2dk9 ай бұрын
    • +1 the comment i was looking for...

      @paki8000@paki80009 ай бұрын
    • F3ed the word "sprung" and got the same.

      @alext8828@alext88283 ай бұрын
  • Amazing project. Amazing history. Amazing news! I really hope this will be the future of mobility. 🏁🏎️💨

    @Skjoldborg8@Skjoldborg810 ай бұрын
    • @Skjoldborg8 You could add "Amazing nevs" to your list....

      @stennordenmalm1735@stennordenmalm173510 ай бұрын
    • @@stennordenmalm1735 haha touché! 😜

      @Skjoldborg8@Skjoldborg810 ай бұрын
  • This is absolutely great ! But quick question . What do you do when you have a flat . Change the entire wheel system or just change the tyre

    @Alorio-Gori@Alorio-Gori6 ай бұрын
  • The car looks good, but my biggest worry is constant exposure to salt during winter. The engines are very exposed and you only really need to take one hit from a small rock, and the rust starts going.

    @MirLo1989@MirLo19898 ай бұрын
  • I hope they make it, it’s brilliant.

    @jonesy-rh5fk@jonesy-rh5fk10 ай бұрын
    • They will sadly not, Nevs have put this project on sale and they say that there are many that are intrestded in it.

      @OliverRysen@OliverRysen10 ай бұрын
  • Yeah, I’m pretty skeptical about all the unsprung weight. I don’t think you could ever get this to be as comfortable on bumpy roads as a similar EV sedan with inboard motors. Not to mention the fact that all the engineering to make wheel motors work surely adds to the price and production time.

    @WanderingGoff@WanderingGoff10 ай бұрын
    • The car uses air suspension to iron out the bumps. Protean have been developing their motors over several years. Also worth noting, Evergrande owned Protean during the time of the Emily project

      @davidthornley4375@davidthornley437510 ай бұрын
    • @@davidthornley4375 less unsprung weight makes a significant difference in handling since the suspension and its components can be lighter which will improve stability and bump absorption, Keep in mind that the company made the unsprung weight manageable for the suspension which doesn't mean its ideal, but what they are focusing on is the concept of having in wheel motors and its advantages to older vehicles

      @jhixx8910@jhixx891010 ай бұрын
    • Judging by Tom's face during driving the suspension is just fine, he never mentioned it being too rough or anything.

      @andyb9664@andyb966410 ай бұрын
    • Most roads today are not bumpy anyway.

      @alanOHALAN@alanOHALAN10 ай бұрын
  • Aptera uses hub motors as well. “Until now” statement is inaccurate. Rest looks awesome though.

    @dextyro@dextyro10 ай бұрын
  • I’m glad he asked the “pothole question”. How much damage can a pothole or curb do? And importantly, how much money to fix it, or replace?

    @bar8393gm@bar8393gmАй бұрын
  • The Emily GT is gorgeous. Let's hope it sees life as a production vehicle very soon.

    @brentwalker8596@brentwalker859610 ай бұрын
    • Agreed… but not sure about the name Emily though!

      @izziebon@izziebon10 ай бұрын
    • Never gonna happen...NEVS shut down March 2023 and basically liquidated the company. In addition to laying off 95% of the company, NEVS also lost the rights to SAAB trademarks

      @nebod1556@nebod155610 ай бұрын
  • I've been wanting this for lawn mower and tractor applications. It would be sweet to have a 16" front wheel on a riding mower that was electric powered hub motor.

    @person86422@person8642210 ай бұрын
  • Bicycles have been using in-wheel motors (hub motors) for years. The electric unicycle does as well. Good to hear the bit about the unsprung mass as that was my concern when watching this. Aptera is also using in-wheel motors. Let's see if they actually make it to production. Saab? A nice car for eccentrics. At least until GM acquired it and destroyed the brand. An Envoy rebadged as a Saab? What were they thinking?

    @arevee9429@arevee942910 ай бұрын
  • I wish SAAB had never bitten the dust. There was always something special about them. I loved the weirdness of them. They even had a distinctive smell of the leather and other interior bits that I remember from childhood. Sad the Emily won’t ever be mass produced because it sure looks like a promising alternative to a Model S, just with proper Scandinavian flair.

    @fields1@fields110 ай бұрын
  • I hope SAAB price this right and get the market they deserve. 1000km range is a great feature!!

    @pentachronic@pentachronic10 ай бұрын
    • Never gonna happen...NEVS shut down March 2023 and basically liquidated the company. In addition to laying off 95% of the company, NEVS also lost the rights to SAAB trademarks.

      @nebod1556@nebod155610 ай бұрын
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